Large-caliber second grade

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Everyone knows large-caliber guns, such as, for example, the Big Burt 420-mm howitzer, the Dora X-gun, the Karl 800-mm self-propelled mortar, the Yamato battleship, the Russian Tsar-gun. and the American 600-mm "Little David". However, there were other large-caliber guns, so-called "second-class", but they did no less in their time than these, which they write and say much more often than all the others.

So, soon after the start of the First World War, it turned out in practice that which many military experts had warned long before it began, but had not been heard. Namely, that the caliber 150, 152 and 155-mm is the minimum necessary caliber for the destruction of field fortifications and the creation of passages for infantry in barbed wire obstacles. However, he was too “weak” against concrete fortifications and dugouts buried in the ground with a reel of three rows of logs and ten layers of sandbags. As a result, the heavy guns' competition began temporarily in the world at the factories and on the battlefields, temporarily suspended in the world with the advent of the 75-mm French rapid-fire cannon Depora, Deville and Rimallo, and the proliferation of the contrived concept of "single gun and single projectile." However, some of these guns are always heard, but others are not, although their fate is no less interesting.



Well, for example, the Big Burt's 420-mm howitzer. In the movie “The Death of an Empire,” it is mentioned in the context of shelling the positions of the Russian army, but these howitzers operated on the Western Front, while the Austro-Hungarian 420-mm howitzers М14 / 16 were used against the troops of the Russian imperial army. As it often happens, they were created for one purpose, and applied to another! Initially, it was ... coastal artillery to conduct hanging fire on dreadnoughts! Their side armor was designed to hit armor-piercing projectiles, but the deck would fall steadily falling shell. Already in January, 1915, one of these howitzers was adapted for use in the field and sent to fight in Poland. The tool developed by Skoda was in many ways more efficient than Berta. In particular, she had 1020 kg of projectile weight, whereas Berta had only 820 ... This range also exceeded the German range, only he had no mobility. It took from 12 to 40 hours to assemble her in the field, and when she was firing she disguised it with a “concert” from the shots of batteries of lighter guns so that she would not be traced and covered with response fire. The gun was used on the Serbian, Russian and Italian fronts, but in the end one howitzer survived even before World War II, fell into the hands of the Germans and was used by them. But in general, it was the Big Burt that impressed the allies, and the Austro-Hungarian howitzer remained in its shadow!

And besides this gun, the Austro-Hungarian army also used 380-mm and 305-mm field howitzers on stationary gun carriages. The 380-mm installation of M.16 weighed 81,7 tons, that is, less than the hundred-ton M14 / 16, and she threw her 740 kg projectile into 15,000 meters. The rate of fire was also higher - 12 shots an hour against 5. Accordingly, 305-mm and 240-mm mortars, also performed on its basis, were less powerful, but more mobile. So it can be said that Austria-Hungary took care to create a whole “bunch” of heavy-caliber guns destined for the destruction of the enemy fortifications and, since they were all produced by Skoda, you can imagine how well she made herself out of it! The foresight of the Austrian military is evidenced by the fact that they gave the order to develop an 305-mm mortar back in the 1907 year, and it entered service four years later. Its effectiveness was very high. For example, a high-explosive projectile break could kill an unprotected person at a distance of 400 m. But the range was slightly lower than that of previous systems, not to mention the weight of projectiles in 287 and 380 kg. However, from such shells real protection on the battlefield, in general, at that time (as, by the way, now!) Did not exist!

As for the French, they, despite their passion for a single caliber, had an impressive line of 155-mm guns before World War I, but again they had problems with a larger caliber. Here, first of all, you should call the 220-mm mortar on the wheel, but the first 40 guns of this type were made only in the 1915 year! Mortar had a weight in 7,5 tons, a firing rate of two shots per minute, a firing range in 10 km, and a projectile weighing in 100 kg. At the end of the war, the gun was improved, and the firing range was already 18000 meters. There were quite a few of these mortars in the army (Schneider offered this mortar to Russia, but because of the unusual caliber our military refused it). Their release continued in the 30-s, but in the end everything that the French had, after the capitulation of France in 1940, fell into the hands of the Germans and was used in the German army.

In 1910, Schneider developed the 280-mm mortar, which also entered service in the French and Russian armies. The plant was disassembled into four parts and transported by tractors. Under ideal conditions, the 6-8 hours were spent on its assembly, but in reality (due to the characteristics of the ground) it could also reach the 18 hours. The range of the gun was about 11 km. The weight of the high-explosive projectile of the Russian gun was 212 kg, and the rate of fire of the 1-2 shot per minute. The French version had three shells: M.1914 g. (Steel) - 205 kg (63,6 kg of explosive), M.1915 g. (Steel) - 275 kg (51,5 kg.), M.1915 g. (Cast iron) - 205 kg (36,3 kg). Accordingly, they also had different range. It is known that before the revolution 26 such mortars were delivered to Russia, and at the beginning of World War II - 25. A large number of French guns were captured by the Germans in the 1940 year and were used up to the 1944 year. The experience of their use, especially in the First World War, showed that they are effective in counter-battery fighting, but in an unsatisfactory manner, that is, much worse than the German “Big Bertha” (which at the time was a kind of benchmark in its destructive effect on concrete fortifications) destroyed fortified positions.

By the way, the road to this caliber in Europe was not lived by anyone, but ... the Japanese, who fired from the 280-mm howitzers Russian fleet, locked in the bay of Port Arthur. Their installation weighed 40 t, had a projectile weighing 217 kg, which had the utmost reach in 11400 m. And having studied the experience of using these guns by the Japanese, both Skoda and Krupp just started their 305 - and 420-mm mortars. And at the beginning, these guns, produced under the license of Armstrong's firm in England by the Tokyo Arsenal, were intended for the needs of coastal defense, and only later were used in land battles under the walls of Port Arthur!

Interestingly, the German artillery had an analogue of the French 220-mm mortar - 210 mm mortar (German caliber 21,1 cm, designation m.10 / 16) on a wheel course. The projectile in its mass was slightly heavier than the French - 112 kg, but the range of the entire 7000 m. On the Western Front, these guns were used in the most active way since August 1914. During the war, the barrel was extended from 12 gauges to 14,5, the configuration of the recoil devices was changed. But the earliest specimens survived, in particular, one such mortar as a trophy even got to Australia, and it remains there to this day. Interestingly, for soft soils, the installation of flat-faced wheels on this mortar was provided, which provided them with much more contact with the soil. Anyway, the design of this instrument was very perfect. So, it had not only the angle of elevation of 70 degrees, which, however, was understandable, because it was a mortar, but also an angle of declination of 6 degrees, which allowed it to fire at the lowlands in case of need, almost directly.

Interestingly, the Italians also had a mortar of the same caliber as the Germans, but ... stationary and not very successful. The length of the barrel she was only 7,1 caliber, so the initial speed is small, and the range for stationary guns is small - 8,45 km with a projectile weight in 101,5 kg. But the most annoying thing is those 6-8 hours of time that were required for its installation, on the position. That is, in this case, both French and German mortars surpassed it in mobility by almost an order of magnitude!

It is impossible, however, to say that here, they say, the Germans were so far-sighted that they created their heavy guns in advance, while the Allies created their own during the war. After all, the French 220-mm mortar was created in 1910 year and ... in the same year, the development of stationary 234-mm guns was launched in England at the artillery plant in Coventry. In July, 1914, the work on it was completed, and in August, the first such installation was sent to France. All she understood into three parts that could be transported by a tractor "Holt", and even horses. The combat weight of the installation was 13580 kg. Its feature was a large box-counterweight, mounted on the basis of guns. It was necessary to load nine tons of land into it and only after that to shoot, so strong was its return, which, although compensated for by the recoil devices, nevertheless made itself felt. At first, the short barrel of the installation of the Mark I showed a firing range at 9200 m and this was considered insufficient. On the modification of the Marc II due to the greater length of the barrel, its range was brought to 12742 m. The rate of fire was two shots per minute, and the weight of the projectile 132 kg. Four howitzers were delivered to Russia and then in the USSR participated in the shelling of the Finnish fortifications in 1940 year! But, again, what could such tools have done compared to the “Big Berta”? And the British quickly understood this and began to increase the calibers of the same installation, imposing on it larger and larger trunks in caliber and simply increasing its linear dimensions.
This is how the installation of the Mark IV weighing without ballast in 38, 3 tons, caliber 305-mm and with a firing range of 13120 m and the weight of the projectile 340 kg. That's just in the box of this gun, located directly in front of the barrel, as on previous models, it was necessary to load not nine tons anymore, but ... 20,3 tons of earth to better hold it on the ground. And after it there is a huge gun weighing 94 tons in 381-mm caliber, throwing 635-kilogram shells at a distance of 9,5 km! In total, 12 made such guns, of which 10 are involved in the battle. In total, until the end of the war, they launched 25332 shells, that is, they were used very intensively. However, combat experience has shown that because of the relatively short range, this weapon was vulnerable to return fire.

Finally, in 1916, the French were able to create railway transporters with 400 and 520-mm caliber guns, but again, they did not play any particular role and were not massively released.

As for Russia, 1915-mm (exact caliber 305-mm) howitzers of the Obukhovsky plant on stationary gun carriage of the Metal Plant in Petrograd came into service here in 304,8. They were produced throughout the war (total produced 50 guns), and then they were in service with the Red Army. But these guns did not differ in any particularly outstanding characteristics. Combat weight was about 64 t. The mass of the projectile - 376,7 kg. The range is 13486 m, and the firing rate is one shot in three minutes. That is, it was an instrument close in its characteristics to the English gun of Mark IV, but on a heavier installation, which made it difficult to assemble and transport to its destination.
The most interesting thing is that these guns, along with 150-mm howitzers and cannons, bore the brunt of combat work in the First World War and fired the main mass of heavy projectiles, however, in the memory of human beings, things, weapons monsters!

Large-caliber second grade
42cm Austria-Hungary


42cm Big Berta


Schneider 220-mm mortars


234-mm English howitzer Mk II


English soldiers lift the projectile to the 305-mm howitzer Mk4


Revenge for Captain Frayatt. The British also wrote on the shells ...


Heavy Duty Cannon at a Railway Installation


Only such dugouts could withstand the hit of German luggage.
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  1. +7
    18 February 2015 08: 34
    Yeah, the bandura. Once I went to the tank museum in Kubinka and looked for Mouse, I couldn’t find it right away, because he was behind the mortar Karl, this unit completely blocked the tank weighing 180 tons.
    1. +1
      18 February 2015 18: 54
      The second publication of Oleg Skvortsovsky and again an incredible number of exclamation marks.
      I could not finish reading the material to the end.
      Exclamation marks are just confusing.
  2. +8
    18 February 2015 08: 54
    I remember reading a book about the defense of Sevastopol. Once a shell from Dora fell to our positions and did not explode. The soldiers were amazed at the size of the ammunition!
    1. +7
      18 February 2015 10: 48
      This case is described in the book "The Feat of the 30th Battery", which was published in Soviet times. However, there we are talking about the "Karl" mortar shell, there is a photograph where our soldiers are examining this shell with a broken ballistic tip. It may seem strange, but our people did not know about the existence of the Dora cannon and its shelling of Sevastopol. Yes Yes. The rupture of Dora's projectile deeply entering the ground was not spectacular on the surface and did not particularly stand out from the explosions of large aerial bombs and artillery shells, which did not allow our artillerymen to identify the presence of this super-powerful weapon. Strong camouflage and security also did their job and the positions of Dora in the Duvankoy area were unknown to our intelligence almost until the very end of the war, when German documents confirming the presence of Dora near Sevastopol were seized.
      1. +1
        18 February 2015 11: 08
        No, I didn’t read about this case in this book. It’s quite possible that it was a mortar shell, it makes no sense to argue. What struck me most was that our supposedly did not know the existence of Dora! It was the size of an 4 story building, the length of the trunk was 32 meters !!! Well, such a colossus is hard not to notice ...
        1. +1
          18 February 2015 19: 38
          Dear, you are right this book is a collection of memoirs of veterans and it is called "Defense of Sevastopol" and you are right there is just information on the shell that did not explode from "Dora", after that the artillerymen carried out calculations and assumed the size of the gun (the calculations were correct), was a hunt for this weapon was launched, specially equipped aircraft, army reconnaissance, resistance forces, all this gave a result, two weeks later the weapon was found and struck an air strike, could not be destroyed, only the energy train was damaged, the weapon was evacuated for repairs to Germany
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  3. +3
    18 February 2015 10: 20
    Quote: Magic Archer
    I remember reading a book about the defense of Sevastopol. Once a shell from Dora fell to our positions and did not explode. The soldiers were amazed at the size of the ammunition!


    And imagine how insulting the Fritz was ...
  4. +2
    18 February 2015 12: 01
    Hitler wanted to build the largest cannon, or rather a battery of these cannons for shelling London, but he didn’t have time. It was assumed that guns with a caliber of about 1,5 m and a barrel length of about 100 m, located inside the mine, would be grouped in 5 pieces - one above the other, and there would be 10 such mines in total, i.e. 50 guns. A feature of these mastodons was the detonation of lateral powder charges as the accelerating projectile passed through the bore. But they did not manage to finalize the design.
    1. +2
      18 February 2015 15: 51
      You confuse this cannon designed by the genius of artillery Professor Bulle (shot by Mossad agents) for Hussein, yes there was a caliber of 1,5 meters. The Germans designed smaller "centipedes" with a caliber of only 155 mm for shelling the coast of England. However, during the construction of the shelter-launcher, they made a mistake in the calculations - they did not take into account the precession and it turned out that instead of the cities of London with the outskirts, the guns would fire at wastelands. And the construction had gone far to redo it was already too late, the allies, having learned about the next wunderwaffle, quickly seized the location of these guns. By the way, these cannons and their shelter have been perfectly preserved to the present day - there is now a museum and those who wish can get acquainted with the original example of the "twilight Teutonic genius" for 25 euros ...
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  5. +5
    18 February 2015 13: 20
    Paris Colossal Cannon Type: Heavy Rail Weapon Country: German Empire
    Wars and conflicts: World War I Designer: Krupp Manufacturer: Krupp
    CharacteristicsWeight, kg: 256. Length, mm: 000. Diameter, mm: 28
    Elevation: 55 degrees
    Muzzle velocity, m/s 1
    Sighting Range, m: 130
  6. +1
    18 February 2015 14: 20
    With all due respect to the author, but he almost did not touch the Russian and Soviet barrel artillery. And there is also something to remember ...
  7. 0
    18 February 2015 14: 53
    The 615-mm mortar, known to us as "Karl" (in fact, each such mortar had its own name), as well as the 800-mm gun "Dora" (aka "Gustav") were created by the gloomy Teutonic genius for use in the assault on the line Maginot, for the destruction of fortifications and the defeat of the protected command post in the depths of the enemy's defense, respectively - a kind of tribute to the positional experience of the 1st World War. However, in this direct capacity, these tools were never used. The use of these weapons in World War II was sporadic and not very successful. Only two successful hits from 615-mm mortars are known - both took place near Sevastopol: in one case, the shell hit the 305-mm coastal battery tower and disabled it (I do not remember the number), in the second case, the shell hit our shell cellar. And both cases are rather controversial - there is no complete certainty that these were exactly 615-mm shells. And "Dora", in my opinion, never got anywhere. I believe that the money spent on the creation and production of these guns and ammunition for them could be used much more efficiently, and not thrown away. Near Sevastopol and especially during the blockade of Leningrad, the Germans were much more effective in using smaller (if only applicable to large-caliber monsters) guns, mostly captured French and Czechoslovakian (former Austro-Hungarian Skoda) guns, including those mentioned in the article.
    1. 0
      18 February 2015 16: 41
      "Dora" and "Fat Gustav" are not the same weapon - they are two weapons of the same design (of the same type). The barrel from this gun and other parts were found by our army and delivered to the USSR for study and experiments. This barrel was lying around for a long time on the territory of an artillery range in Leningrad and was disposed of in 1960. Anyone interested in these super-powerful weapons: http://oldstory.info/index.php?/topic/9205-%d1%81%d0%b2%d0%b5%d1%80%d1%85-%d0% bf
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  8. +4
    18 February 2015 15: 36
    The history of the use of heavy and super-heavy artillery near Sevastopol is very interesting and practically unexplored and there is little literature with the exception of books by Novikov and Shirokorad, by and large there is no literature in Russian. Large-caliber artillery was delivered to Sevastopol specifically to combat the Soviet coastal batteries N30 and N35 according to the German classification - forts of the "Maxim Gorky" type. Tools cal. 210-340 mm, oddly enough, did not bring significant damage to these batteries - several hits were noted in the towers of the 30th battery with such shells, which did not cause significant damage, with the exception of one hit by a 340 mm projectile, which slightly bowed the roof of one tower. Shrapnel of the shells significantly damaged the barrels of the guns of the 30th battery (the damage to two liners was especially unpleasant - one at the cutoff of the barrel, the other swollen from a fragment that got inside), which were replaced in a combat situation. Subsequently, the battery came under fire from Karl mortars and received 3 hits on its position. One hit was at the top of the front of the tower and disabled it. Subsequently, through titanic efforts, the service personnel managed to put one gun into operation, but the barrel lift angle was significantly limited by the crushed armor. "Karls" unsuccessfully fired at the undergrounds of Inkerman and only the hit of the "Dora" shell led to the explosion of a huge ammunition depot stored in the underground tunnels of Inkerman. But this is according to German data. According to our information, the explosion of this warehouse, which had a catastrophic effect on the entire subsequent defense of Sevastopol, was caused by "careless handling" when working with ammunition. There is a version about a deliberate explosion. As for the 30th battery, it fired, according to our chronicle, until the last round, and after the end of the ammunition it fired at the advancing infantry with blank charges - the gases from the shots literally swept away the advancing German infantry. However ... there are several photographs of the position of the remnants of the 30th battery, captured by the Germans, where the invaders are looking with interest at the scattered in a fairly large number of 305 mm shells. The question arises, where do the shells come from if they run out? It is believed that the type ended where there were undamaged guns, and their damaged turret could not be dragged under enemy fire. I don’t know if this is true, but it seems that the potters under the towers were connected and the transportation of shells from the cellars to any of the towers was possible.
    1. 0
      18 February 2015 21: 26
      He was not much interested in the question, but if my memory serves me, there was an article on the defense of Sevastopol and the phenomenon of the remaining shells was explained by the fact that they were practical, those training blanks without centuries. Accordingly, shooting them at the infantry was pointless, but there were no other targets.
    2. 0
      16 March 2015 16: 43
      I read that shortly before the German offensive, a large number of 305mm shells from Sevastopol were exported to Poti, where they were not useful and were not used until the end of the war
  9. +1
    18 February 2015 20: 07
    In total, the Wehrmacht received six serial mortars of the "Karl" type (model 040); each mortar had its own name: "One," "Fuckers," and "Ziu." The total mass of the serial mortar reached 124 tons. For its transportation by rail, special five-axis platforms were built with a special site between them. On highways, the mortar was transported disassembled (into several parts).
    The first four mortars were included in the 833th division of heavy mortars and received their first baptism of fire, shooting at the Brest Fortress and at Lviv. In Crimea, near Sevastopol, only two mortars were used - “Tor” and “One”, which were to suppress stationary coastal batteries with 305 mm guns - batteries 30 and 35, known in Western literature as “Forts Maxim Gorky I and II”. Mortars arrived at the Sevastopol positions in early March 1942 and were extremely effective in fighting the famous 30th battery. In total, the positions of the 30th coastal battery (commander Captain George Alexander), two German mortars fired 122 high-explosive and concrete-piercing shells. Mortars used usually two types of concrete-breaking grenades: light and heavy. Light grenade had a weight of 1,7 tons, flight speed - 283 meters per second at a range of up to 6700 meters. A heavy grenade weighed 2,2 tons, contained 350 kilograms of explosives, and a flight speed of 243 m / s. at a distance of up to 4000 meters. Grenades easily pierced concrete 2,5 meters thick and destroyed three-meter reinforced concrete of underground casemates of the 30th battery. It is easy to imagine the sensations of battery personnel under the gaps of such "monsters." The command of the Sevastopol Defensive Region for a long time did not believe in the existence of such a caliber guns, and only special photographing of an unexploded ordnance with a person standing nearby convinced the Germans of such powerful artillery systems, which was reported to Headquarters. One of the unexploded shells of the Karl was with great difficulty delivered to the territory of the naval arsenal in Sukharnaya Balka for study. After the tunnel was blown up, the shell was covered with earth and stones, and lay there until the liberation of Sevastopol. Only in 1957, this shell was taken out and blown up in the reed bay. Two mortars fell in 1945 to the Soviet troops. On the territory of the Museum of armored vehicles in Kubinka (near Moscow), the Ziu mortar of 600 mm caliber is still preserved.
  10. +1
    19 February 2015 17: 14
    I saw a French film where such a bandura was dragged by horses through the mud onto a hill. The thought immediately appears in my head: why such a colossus and so much torment? Now much becomes clear. Killing infantrymen within a radius of 400 meters, according to this article, is powerful!
  11. 0
    20 February 2015 09: 36
    one of the main reasons for Russia's defeats on the German front and huge losses is the lack of heavy artillery and the lack of shells for any
    1. 0
      28 February 2015 08: 26
      Shell hunger was overcome in the 16, but only for three inches ...
  12. 0
    25 July 2019 18: 28
    The author’s statement about the fact that in Russia the 220-mm Schneider’s mortar wasn’t accepted because of the unusual caliber was very ridiculous.
    As any artillery historian knows, the Schneider company for Russia made these mortars under the standard Russian caliber of 9 inches, that is, 229 mm. Like other French guns created for the Russian army by Schneider, they had standard Russian calibers. For other countries, similar guns had different calibers. For example, a howitzer with a caliber of 47 lines was made for Russia (more precisely, 121,92 mm), and the caliber of 120.3 mm had exactly the same for Belgium or Serbia. Etc.
    There are too many similar "shortcomings" in the article