Is it so perfect Russian weapons today ...

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For foreign countries, Russia has always been and remains a country that simply draws once again to criticize. Particularly willing to succeed in this power of some countries of the former socialist camp, as well as, by tradition, the Americans and their henchmen. Criticism is often associated with the principles of government in our country, selected democratic forms, pressure on the media, an aging technical park. But more recently, cries have begun to be heard that Russia, in addition to the above, is also producing poor quality weapon. Of course, if the same Americans or French say it, then they can be understood - the competition, after all ... you will besmirch the Russians with mud, and then it will be seen - maybe you can sell more of yours ...

But when accusations against Russian weapons come from countries such as India, with which cooperation has been going on for several decades, it’s worth considering. Some immediately demonstrate obvious aggression against Indian and other colleagues who are engaged in the procurement of Russian weapons: they say, what are these Hare Krishnas interested in! They bought, they say, our equipment for billions of dollars, and all of them are wrong - Tanks they don’t shoot, then the ship’s engines stall, then the planes fall. If you do not go into the context of transactions on the supply of Russian weapons abroad, then, of course, we can say that buyers simply want to bring down the price, and they invent all sorts of taunts addressed to us. But now, if you try to understand the situation, then problems will emerge in our production complex.

So, some time ago, the Russian side was charged that the aircraft carrier delivered to India categorically refuses to sail as it should. In this case, the Indians say that on this ship there is not even a couple of meters of electric wiring that has not rotted through, and the power from the generators is extremely unstable. Immediately on the part of the Russian suppliers he heard reproaches to the Indians themselves. And these words are approximately as follows: they themselves, they say, bought a ship from us "at a discount", and now you don’t like it, that we didn’t repair it at all. It was necessary, they say, to our children, electricians, to pay the “denyushka”, they would twist something there and insulate with their blue electrical tape. The situation is more like a case in kindergarten, when one boy exchanges a broken machine for a bitten apple from another.

So I want to say: citizens are sellers, and citizens are buyers, what are you fooling around? If we are talking about the sale of a whole aircraft carrier, then one of them needed to give at least a presentation and another to look under the hood, as they say. Now both those and others may get the impression that the partner, to put it mildly, is not quite reliable. And it will be absolutely true.

The situation with the equipment that has already been exploited is quite understandable: any used machine as a new one will no longer work. But when it comes to new Russian weapons, it becomes a shame for the Power, when every weapon allows itself to decry. We will try to consider this difficult question. Claims to the new weapons from Russia again brought from India. The essence of the claims is as follows: adjustable Russian-made projectiles deteriorate very quickly during storage. Our side immediately stated that the storage conditions of Krasnopolis in India do not fit any standard.

You can immediately comment: how are the same shells stored with us? Literally every month we hear from television screens: ammunition explodes in military warehouses in Siberia, now in the North-West, now in the Urals. Soldiers are conscripts, who, as always, are guilty. Well, in fact, no one will say that this “General Pupkin” has already been able to lay a normal floor in a warehouse for 10 for years and patch up the roof. Here and in India shells store about the same principle. They also studied with us, these Indian generals ...
Therefore, claims against each other, of course, can be, but where are the shells themselves? As they say, nothing to blame the mirror ...

However, such situations have often arisen in which the Russian military or space technology can actually fail foreign partners, and here it’s far from being in the wrong storage or inadequate operation. How to deal with a launch vehicle that, for obscure reasons, “ditched” several satellites of other states at once. Here, even the fraternal Belarus quite reasonably began to resent, because her companion "lost without a fight." Recently, the Russian Progress again made the whole world shudder because it did not reach the ISS. The new T-50 fighter on the recent MAKS-2011 proved to be not quite impressive either. And such examples, unfortunately, from year to year becomes more and more.

You can no longer talk about the 100% impeccability of our military developments. It is a fact. And while we are trying to “patch up” the holes and look for the guilty not only in the assembly shops and in the offices of designers, but also among the “common Russophobes”, claims to our technology will appear more and more often in the world. So, it is necessary to stop collecting absurd excuses, and to approach the issue of development and fulfillment of one’s own party of the contract truly responsibly.
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  1. rise
    +4
    29 August 2011 07: 26
    Adequate people should be in the leadership and every citizen should know their rights and obligations and the consequences of not fulfilling their duties, primarily criminal. And not like now all mega businessmen (but in fact the former punks sold cigarettes by the piece or scumbags bombing normal people). comrade Putin is forced to do his job correctly with only one Ministry of Internal Affairs and life will improve.
    1. Mesniy
      -3
      29 August 2011 13: 35
      So this is Putin must be made to be adequate ...
      1. -1
        29 August 2011 13: 38
        What is Putin’s inadequacy?
        1. rise
          0
          29 August 2011 18: 40
          inadequacy is that a lot of collective farmers working until now in Meveda do whatever they want, they all know about it, but none of the authorities make any org conclusions, for example, there is such a lysenko. The COLONEL leads the gbbd Vladivostok has already begun to issue its own by-laws of the Russian Federation ( for myself) I will not say anything about his other jambs. for reference, Vladivostok is located in the 10 largest cities in Russia.
  2. +2
    29 August 2011 07: 36
    About the claims of the Indians, it clarifies a lot and informatively.
    http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/exclusive/view/60542/
    1. 0
      29 August 2011 10: 02
      Varnaga, thanks for the "other side of the coin".
  3. +2
    29 August 2011 07: 40
    Total marriage in the rockets of our sworn friends
    http://lenta.ru/news/2011/03/23/flop/
  4. Superduck
    0
    29 August 2011 10: 24
    Well, of course, I know where the myth about the ideality of Soviet weapons came from, but here the majority have already crossed the stage of puberty and, in general, in life have come across real technology and not paravoziks of the children's railway. Technique cannot be perfect, everyone knows it. All new equipment, especially with regard to the generational change, was heavily and painfully adopted, many decalitres of cognac were drunk with all the acceptance commissions and factory workers, a huge range of weapons was adopted either with reservations for corrections of 100 pages, or even by November 7th. And if the huge range of weapons was a revolutionary breakthrough on a planetary scale, it almost always had technical problems on the flip side of the coin.
    Guys, I worked (was in practice) at 3 out of 5 Kharkov plants dealing with satellite-space issues. And although it was already after the collapse of the USSR, but only a few years later, the culture of production and the quality of equipment sometimes in soft toy factories was generally higher. Of course, special laboratories and other closed departments is a slightly different topic, but the overall picture in the plant was eloquent. AvtoZAZ assembly lines are now cleaner.
    Now I think there are shifts for the better, many things can no longer be riveted on the knee, but the traditions of the Russian defense industry are still strong.
  5. Mesniy
    -2
    29 August 2011 13: 41
    “It is no longer possible to talk about 100% flawlessness of our military developments.” - Yes, it was never possible to talk about it, I worked at an aircraft repair plant in Soviet times, at best it can be about 50%, no more, I was connected with aviation and before and after, LOTS of REFUSALS AND MARRIAGE!
    1. zczczc
      +2
      29 August 2011 16: 19
      Therefore, it was aircraft repair plant - the place where they repair. And the place where they fly is not repaired there.
      1. Superduck
        0
        29 August 2011 16: 24
        Yes, but the only place in the USSR where the Rooks were made was the Tbilisi aircraft repair shop.
        1. svvaulsh
          0
          29 August 2011 16: 42
          But what about Ulan-Ude, SuperDuck?
          1. Superduck
            0
            29 August 2011 16: 56
            Well, it’s very difficult for me to argue with you on this subject, I only heard about Tbilisi, but of course I believe you. Indeed, in any case, they were made in Tbilisi, right?
            1. svvaulsh
              0
              29 August 2011 17: 01
              In general, yes, there were 2 manufacturers, Tbilisi and Ulan-Ude.
              1. Mesniy
                -1
                30 August 2011 22: 38
                Only Tbilisi
          2. Mesniy
            -1
            30 August 2011 22: 38
            They made a spark there, but the military mastered it only in the 2000s
        2. Mesniy
          -1
          30 August 2011 22: 37
          And I repaired them on the only in the USSR arp military unit 36860
          And I know what I'm talking about, the car is made with an ax.
      2. Mesniy
        -1
        30 August 2011 22: 43
        In Soviet times, I spent a lot of time in the Air Force, in combat units, in the ARP, and in the parent plants.
        My specialization is flight data recorder (black box for simple), so I know the situation on accidents and failures as a whole on the Air Force
        1. zczczc
          0
          30 August 2011 22: 54
          There was infa in the 90s that 30% of helicopters did not take off on an alarm at some US base. Sobs-no, the plot in the news.
    2. 0
      29 August 2011 22: 10
      There will be fewer such people, fewer failures.
  6. voin-xnumx
    0
    29 August 2011 14: 32
    There is nothing perfect in the world, especially when it comes to smart pieces of iron. Look, ours do not have time to deliver frigates to the Indians, the answer of our ministry is "lack of qualified personnel." The question is, where will they come from, or what did they count on when they took obligations? Accordingly, it is necessary to keep within the deadlines and do a tyap, a blunder, on departure ... sm, and then we'll see. Here marriage and pops up now with us, then at the Pindos or the paddling pool.
  7. 0
    29 August 2011 14: 43
    Well, gentlemen, now the most perfect weapon among the Hfransuz is-- they all were molested, raped and mistral. wink
    1. Superduck
      0
      29 August 2011 15: 32
      I understand that it was sarcasm, but now, I remembered
      http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/Modern/France/
  8. +1
    29 August 2011 23: 40
    People need: 1. It’s normal to pay 2. Create normal working conditions 3. Normal equipment, not the shit that they worked on in the Second World War. 4. Valuable personnel, engineers, designers, workers. Those who voluntarily dumped from factories ( here you can smoothly go to point 1.) 5. Tightest control, and not so that our fifth-generation aircraft did not have time to assemble, the Chinese have already flown. Guys, well, not insanity? Just oh ... you can.
  9. 0
    30 August 2011 08: 05
    We talk very beautifully, give recommendations, take offense at the consumers of our military equipment and more. We must agree that in the last two decades we have been wearing costumes made for a very long time. We sell abroad what remains after the acquisition of a new look by our army. But we forget about such a nuance as respect for the buyer and maintaining the prestige of their own country. But patriotism is not in fashion now, and similar incidents happen. And why should we be offended by the opinion of the West when our top military leadership spits on our equipment and weapons without rendering any assistance in their development, production, etc. Field-maker Taburetkin buys imported small arms, armored vehicles, boats ... And General Postnikov claims that German tanks are better and cheaper than ours. The main thing is cheaper. General WWII forgot. And we need to remember. Although our comrades helped us significantly, the victory was not achieved at the expense of arming our potential enemies. We should not get into their dependence. This is a crime against future generations.
  10. 0
    9 February 2013 19: 22
    If the Indians refuse to buy Russian weapons, this will be a terrible blow to the military-industrial complex. Venezuela and Algeria do not count all there.