Uralbomber. The first four-engine "strategist" of the Third Reich

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Uralbomber. The first four-engine "strategist" of the Third Reich


This Teutonic "monster" with an angular and rough appearance is found in domestic archival documents only once, but, really, its unusualness is worth telling about it. The four-engined heavy bomber Dornier Do-19 was built in a single copy, made the first flight in the 1936 year, and was not mass-produced. In 1939, the only flight prototype of the Do 19V1 was converted into a transport one and even for a short time was used in this capacity during a Polish company. It was not on the Eastern Front, and could not be. And yet - on August 24 of 1941, a pair of 153 X-NUMX and X-NUMX air defense systems in Leningrad were “shot down” in the Ryabovo area by exactly “Pre-192”. But let's not rush things and start from the very beginning.

The ability to recreate strategic aviation It began to be discussed in Germany in 1934. Even then, the problem of choosing between tactical and strategic aviation appeared, which did not lose its acuity until 1944. A heavy bomber is an expensive toy, the equivalent of several front-line ones, and the resources of a warring country are always limited. The most active lobbyist of the "strategists" was the first chief of the Luftwaffe general staff, Walter Wefer, who believed that the Reich in any case needed an aircraft that could reach the enemy’s industrial centers. I must say that Walter Wefer was an interesting enough figure of Nazi Germany to tell a little more about him. Walter Wefer began his military service in the Kaiser army in 1905. In 1914 he fought on the Western Front as a platoon commander. In 1915, Weefer was awarded the rank of captain, and he was sent to the General Staff, where, despite his low rank, he proved himself to be a capable tactician and organizer. In 1917, Wefer became adjutant to General Erich Ludendorff and later gained a reputation as one of the best students of Ludendorff. After the end of the 1st World War, Wefer continued to serve in the management of the Reichswehr personnel, where he earned great respect from the commander of the armed forces of the Weimar Republic, Colonel General Hans von Zeekt. In 1926, Weefer was awarded the rank of Major, and in 1930 - Colonel. In 1933 he became the head of the department of military educational institutions. The Minister of War of the Third Reich, General Werner von Blomberg, realizing the need for the Luftwaffe created by competent leaders, transferred his best staff officers to this department, among whom was Wefer. To him, Blomberg noted that the army was losing the future chief of the General Staff. Wefer (by this time already Lieutenant General), in an incredibly short time, delved into all the problems of the Luftwaffe and determined the priority directions for their development. Unlike other staff officers, he realized that Hitler did not seek to take revenge from France and Great Britain for the defeat in the "great war." The Führer believed that Russia would become the main strategic opponent of the “Third Reich” in the struggle to conquer the “living space” (Lebensraum). Guided by these considerations, Wefer organized the Luftwaffe in the hope of a strategic air war with the Soviet Union, considering it much more important (based on the need to save human and material resources of the Reich) to destroy the enemy weapons at the enterprises producing it, than on the battlefields. He was confident that Germany needed a heavy bomber with a sufficient range to destroy targets in Soviet industrial areas and, moreover, capable of reaching the Ural Mountains, which are 1500 miles from the German airfield closest to the USSR. In the end, he managed to convince both Goering and Milch of the need to create heavy long-range bombers capable of achieving these goals. As a result, in 1934, the German Reichminister of Aviation (RLM) formed the requirements for a new four-engined bomber which was to surpass the best heavy bomber of that time — the Soviet TB-3. According to the task, the aircraft was supposed to be a free-flying monoplane with retractable landing gear, which should be able to deliver 2,5 tons of bombs to targets in the Urals or in Scotland. The project received the sonorous name "Uralbomber."


Here is what A. Speer (Reich Minister of Arms of Germany) wrote in his memoirs about potential goals for Uralbomber: “We remembered vulnerabilities in the Russian energy sector. According to our data, there was no well-established air defense system ... In the Soviet Union, electricity production was concentrated in several points, usually located on a vast territory of industrial zones. For example, Moscow was supplied with electricity by the electric center located in the upper Volga. But according to the information received, 60% of all the devices necessary for the optical and electrical industry were manufactured in Moscow ... It was enough to bring down a hail of bombs at power plants, as in the Soviet Union steel mills would stand up and production would completely stop tanks and ammunition. Since many Soviet power plants and factories were built with the help of German firms, we had all the technical documentation. ” An interesting fact ... Moscow aircraft factories were built by specialists from the Junkers and Dornier firms, and it was to these firms in the summer of 1935 that Walter Wefer transferred specifications for a new aircraft intended for the bombing of Soviet factories. By the way, these companies have already carried out preliminary studies of the project, on the basis of which the technical department prepared specifications. In early autumn, each of the companies ordered three experimental aircraft, designated Do-19 and Ju-89.



The creation of Do-19 was considered by Dornier as a priority task, the work on this aircraft was carried out so intensively that the assembly of the first prototype of the D-19 V1 was completed a little more than a year after receiving the specification. The plane made its first flight 28 in October 1936. Naturally, the Soviet TB-3 (created in 1930) had a great influence on German designers. By analogy with it, the Do-19 was also designed as a free-flying monoplane with a medium wing layout. The all-metal fuselage, as on the TB-3, had a rectangular cross-section and consisted of three parts: the nose, the middle (up to the front wing spar) and the rear (from the second wing spar). The middle and rear parts of the fuselage were bolted to the center section. The wing, like the TB-3 wing, was very thick with a wide chord and had a two-spar design with a smooth working skin. The power nacelles of four Bramo 109 322 J2 air-cooled engine nacelles were fastened to the power components of the wing. Their power was HP 715. each. The screws were three-blade metal VDM changeable in flight pitch. The engine nacelles of the internal engines were equipped with compartments in which the main landing gear was retractable in flight (the tail wheel was retracted into the fuselage). The bomber could reach speeds of 315 km / h. It should be said that the Do-19 VI had the Ascania-Sperry autopilot - for the first time among the bombers. At that time, no aircraft of either Germany or other countries of the world had such a device. The crew included nine people (commander, second pilot-navigator, bombing operator, radio operator and five shooters), the Do-19 V2 version is sometimes reported on the crew size - 10 people.

To accommodate the bomb load in the fuselage there was a compartment equipped with cluster bomb racks. The total weight of the bombs is 1600kg (16 bombs on 100 kg or 32 bombs weighing 50 kg each).


If the first Do-19 V1 prototype flew without defensive armament, then on the second and third prototypes and production aircraft it was supposed to have very powerful defensive armament for those times consisting of four rifle installations:
• one installation with a 7.92-mm machine gun MG 15 in the bombardier's nose turret,
• two turrets with 20 mm MG151/20 cannons on top and bottom of the fuselage,
• one installation with a 7.92-mm machine gun in the rear fuselage.
The turrets were very original, double, in design they resembled naval artillery towers: one gunner ran the turret along the horizon, the other with guns vertically. However, this tower, designed in parallel with the aircraft, turned out to be heavier and more cumbersome than it could be accepted. Static tests showed that the installation of the towers would require a significant strengthening of the design of the central section of the fuselage. In addition, the towers created a lot of aerodynamic resistance, and their weight significantly increased the already overestimated take-off weight of the aircraft. The weight problem particularly affected the aircraft’s airspeed: with the Bramo 322H-2 engines and turrets, it was 250 km / h I and the height 2000 m, which in no case did not suit the Luftwaffe command (TB-3 of the 1936 model flew at 300 speed km / h at an altitude of 3000 m). Therefore, the armament on the V1 was not mounted. V2 was scheduled for VMW-132F 810ls power on takeoff and 650ls on nominal. Armament was planned to be installed only on VZ.
But since there was no other tower for installation, and the flight characteristics were supposed to be acceptable, Dornier proposed a more powerful production model Do-19a with four Bramo 323А-1 “Fafnir” engines with 900 HP on take-off and HP 1000. . at a height of 3100 m. Naturally, in the future, still planned to install lighter towers. The take-off weight of the Do-19a was estimated at 19 tons, speeds up to 370 km / h and range to 2000 km; The height in 3000 m was typed in 10 minutes, and the ceiling in 8000 m.



However, these plans were not realized: the fate of the aircraft was directly related to its ideological father, General Walter Vefer, and after his death in a plane crash on June 3, 1936, the program for creating the Ural bomber was gradually curtailed.

Vefer's receiver, Lieutenant-General Albert Kesselring, decided to revise the Uralbomber program. The Luftwaffe headquarters has already developed the basic parameters of a much more promising heavy bomber. Requirements for such a "Bomber A" were transferred to Heinkel, who began work on the 1041 Project, which was embodied in He-177. Kesselring concluded that a smaller twin-engine bomber is sufficient for a war in Western Europe. The main goal of the Luftwaffe was determined rather at the tactical than at the strategic level. Given the limited capabilities of the German aircraft industry, a heavy bomber could be produced only to the detriment of fighters and tactical bomber. Thus, despite the protests of the Technical Department, 29 on April 1937, all work on the Uralbomber was officially discontinued.



However, despite the official order to discontinue work on Do-19 due to the lack of a decision to launch it into mass production, the tests of the aircraft continued. 83 test flights were carried out, but in the end they decided to scrapping all the built (under construction) Do-19 aircraft and delete from the plans all the design work on the creation of long-range bombers. Many experts believe that when creating the Luftwaffe, the exclusion of four-engine heavy bomber from the development program of aviation was one of the most fatal mistakes.
Admiral Laas (President of the German Aviation Industry Association) 1 on November 1942 wrote to Field Marshal Milch "Both [Do-19 and Ju-89 machines], subject to continuous improvement, would have surpassed American and British long-range bombers." However, such a development is unlikely. Most likely, Germany in the mid-thirties could get, like the USSR with its TB-3, an armada of quickly-established "strategists" that would be problematic to use against strategic facilities in the Soviet Union that had a very good object air defense system. If you still compare with the British bombers, then the maximum that could be obtained from Do-19, subject to continuous improvement, is the same flying misunderstanding as the Short Stirling, with which the German "strategist" looked like even outwardly.



As a result, the almost complete Do-19V2 and the half-assembled V3 were sent for scrap. The Do-19V1 was preserved; in 1939, it was converted into a transport plane and accepted into the Luftwaffe. It was used in the Polish campaign, then its traces are lost. There is no evidence that this plane hit the Eastern Front, nor documents proving the opposite. Nevertheless, the fact that the Do-19V1 was shot down in the sky of Leningrad is in doubt. It should be remembered that in the first period of the war the pilots had serious problems with the identification of enemy aircraft. In particular, many reports featured downed Non-100 and Non-112, which in principle could not be. Therefore, the "identify" Do-19 "Stalin falcons" could in any other unusually large aircraft.



Modification: Do.19 V-1
Wingspan, m: 35.00
Length, m: 25.45
Height, m: 5.80
Wing area, м2: 155.00
Weight, kg of empty aircraft: 11875
Mass, kg normal take-off: 18500
Engine type: PD Bramo (Siemens) -322H-2
Power, hp : 4 × 715
Maximum speed, km / h: 374
Cruising speed, km / h: 350
Fighting range, km: 1600
Maximum rate of climb, m / min: 295
Practical ceiling, m: 5600
Crew: 4
weaponry
small (not installed)
1 × 7,92-mm MG-15 in the nose tower,
1 × MG15 on the open tail turret,
mechanically driven upper and lower turret with 1 × 20mm MG FF
bomb load, kg: 3000

Sources:
W. Green "Wings of the Luftwaffe (combat aircraft of the Third Reich)"
Aviation and Cosmonautics 1996 №11-12
"Science and technology" Moroz SG "The fall of the" iron eagle "
Shunkov V. “Aircraft of Germany of the Second World War”
owl-99 "Phantoms" of the sky of the Great Patriotic War "
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  1. +6
    13 November 2014 08: 54
    Yeah...
    For some reason reminded the huge German glider of the WWII Messerschmitt "Me-231" Gigant laughing
    1. +2
      13 November 2014 16: 53
      His brother ME-323. But he has already grown into a transporter.
      1. 0
        13 November 2014 21: 44
        Quote: bionik
        His brother ME-323. But he has already grown into a transporter.

        The Me-323 grew out of the largest Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Me-321 transport glider.
        The main modifications Messerschmitt Me-321 "Gigant"
        Me-321A-1 - the basic version. Carrying capacity - 20 tons. Crew - 3 people. There is no armament, but it is possible to install several MG.34 infantry machine guns (from the landing armament) in the side windows. To facilitate the launch, a suspension under the wing of liquid rocket launch boosters is possible. Until the end of summer 1941, 100 units were produced.
        Me-321B-1 - the control system has been improved, which made it easier to pilot. Installation of two (on late-release gliders - four) 7,92-mm MG 15 machine guns is provided for in the doors of the cargo door. Crew - 5-6 people. 100 units were issued (86 in 1941 and 14 in 1942).
      2. 0
        15 November 2014 16: 13
        Quote: bionik
        His fellow ME is 323. But already grown into a transport

        In the photo Me-323 and fighters of the sounder team disguised as sheep?
    2. 0
      13 November 2014 17: 06
      Most likely ME-321, not 231.
  2. Marks
    +1
    13 November 2014 08: 54
    More info on this topic http://warspot.ru/2026-fantomy-neba-velikoy-otechestvennoy
  3. +2
    13 November 2014 09: 05
    in Golubev's book "Paired with the hundredth" there is a moment when they felled Dornier and Pokryshkin in the sky over Europe
    1. +1
      13 November 2014 15: 33
      Quote: Almatinets
      in Golubev's book "Paired with the hundredth" there is a moment when they felled Dornier and Pokryshkin in the sky over Europe

      Which Dornier? There were several of them. And not strategists at all.
    2. 0
      13 November 2014 21: 55
      Quote: Almatinets
      in Golubev's book "Paired with the hundredth" there is a moment when they felled Dornier and Pokryshkin in the sky over Europe

      On the evening of May 9, his wingman Georgy Golubev will put an end to the war - the Dornier-217 bomber will knock over Prague.
  4. +3
    13 November 2014 09: 10
    The first autopilot ... Not bad .... German engineering thought in the pre-war years worked very well.
    And the death of Wafer came in handy ...
    1. +4
      13 November 2014 09: 45
      Quote: copar
      First autopilot ... Not bad ....

      The first autopilat was developed in 1912/1918 from the Sperry Gyroscope Company / Sperry Corporation
      1. +9
        13 November 2014 10: 25
        And even earlier, Tsiolkovsky developed a device designed to maintain a given altitude and direction of flight of the airship. But, it seems that at that time these devices were ahead of their time and the military ripened before them only at the turn of the mid-thirties, having prepared samples for serial production. And there are plenty of similar examples in history when an invention is matured on a dusty shelf for several years and decades.
  5. +6
    13 November 2014 09: 11
    I did not know about such a plane, thanks to the author hi
  6. +3
    13 November 2014 09: 52
    Quote: Marks
    More info on this topic http://warspot.ru/2026-fantomy-neba-velikoy-otechestvennoy

    This article is in the bibliography. There, the author tries to analyze the likelihood of the Do-19 shooting down near Leningrad. But the conclusions of the author of "Phantoms of the Great Patriotic War" are very controversial. After all, he is a glider and in Africa a glider, no matter how big it is. A bare wing and a wing with motors are difficult to confuse. Moreover, the practice of our pilots was like this: to fire large planes with fire on the engines. With bullets, even large-caliber ones, threshing wings or fuselage is a thankless job. Only by engines and crew. An extreme case in terms of the location of the tanks, but here it is already necessary to accurately identify the aircraft. I believe more that the transport Do-19 was really near Leningrad than that it was confused with a glider. The fight was in the afternoon. There was no merry-go-round with messengers either.
    Quote: Almatinets
    in Golubev's book "Paired with the hundredth" there is a moment when they felled Dornier and Pokryshkin in the sky over Europe

    Well, that was the year 44 or even 45. There was another Dornier.
  7. +7
    13 November 2014 09: 53
    The decision in favor of tactical aviation in Germany is justified, given the pace of advancement of the ground forces. Until the end of the war, German tactical bombers represented a headache for our troops, and strategists, I think, would have been knocked out by the end of 1941, given the speed and cost of their construction, then the actions of German bomber aircraft would have been less destructive for us. In general, if we consider that strategists would be built to the detriment of tactics and fighters, then for us it would be much more profitable. Once again I am convinced that, unfortunately, the Germans were far from fools.
    1. +5
      13 November 2014 12: 10
      By the way, we also built something similar. Pe-8 (aka ANT-42, aka TB-7). The development began in 1934, the first flight in 1936. By the way: the first strike on Berlin on Pe-8 aircraft was delivered on August 10, 1941 ... (pictured: Pe-8, missile-carrying modification with a 10s cruise missile
      At the end of 1944, one aircraft with ASH-82FN engines was converted as a carrier of 10th cruise missiles designed by V.N. Chelomey. The aircraft participated in the test program for these missiles in Central Asia in the first half of 1945. Subsequently, another 5 vehicles were converted for missile carriers)
  8. +5
    13 November 2014 10: 20
    Quote: qqqq
    In general, if we consider that strategists would be built to the detriment of tactics and fighters, then for us it would be much more profitable. Once again I am convinced that, unfortunately, the Germans were far from fools.
    You can’t argue with that. We lost from Germany’s refusal to build four-engine strategists, all the more so)

    this is Short Stirling. Are they alike?this is Short Stirling. Are they alike?

    And this is Short Stirling. I think they are similar.
    1. +1
      13 November 2014 11: 40
      Yes, there is something in common. Borrowing (especially in aviation) is a common thing
      1. 0
        13 November 2014 13: 29
        The competition "Uralbomber" was organized in the early 30s with the aim of obtaining a machine that could be built on the territory of the USSR for Germany, given the level of industry of our country, and ended with "nothing" in connection with the cooling of our relations somewhere by 33-34 This phrase became widely known in 39. Within the framework of the disinformation campaign carried out by the German General Staff (in front of the "sea lion"), exactly in the spirit mentioned in the article. Structurally, Do-19, like Stirling, is representatives of the French school of designing multi-engine aircraft, and its comparison with TB-3 is, to put it mildly, frivolous. It is obvious that "German &
        quot; a much more progressive design, but he is far from the "Americans". Regarding air victories, it seems to me rather doubtful that eight machine guns of rifle caliber (two I-153) would be enough to destroy a four-engined vehicle, it is much more likely that "met" with FV-200.
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        2. +1
          13 November 2014 15: 38
          Quote: Argon
          the destruction of a four-engined vehicle would have been enough for a BK of eight rifle-caliber machine guns (two I-153s), it is much more likely that they "met" with the FV-200.

          Who didn’t have 4 motors?
    2. 0
      17 November 2014 07: 04
      Quote: qwert
      We lost from Germany’s refusal to build four-engine strategists, all the more so

      Eduard, Germany massively built four-engine strategic bombers
      But before the B-29 it was like walking to China. The Germans could not even make an analogue of the "Flying Fortress", although they tried very hard

      He.177 / 277 GREIF - 1169 built cars!





      A distinctive feature of Not 177 was the twin propulsion system. In the DB 606 engine, two 12-cylinder V-shaped units based on DB 601 were mounted side by side and worked on a common shaft through a gearbox connecting both crankshafts.



      In addition to the Griffins, massively used Focke-Wulf.200 Condor - 276 vehicles, including civilian options. They appeared on the Eastern Front only once - near Stadlingrad, were mainly used by the command "Atlantic"



      And also countless projects "America-bomber" - Messerschmitt-264, Ta-400 ...
  9. +1
    13 November 2014 11: 34
    but in general the Germans flew almost to the Urals until the end of the war.
    mainly intelligence, photos, etc.

    that's all, ours trample German land, and they all fly and watch
    1. 0
      13 November 2014 13: 01
      And what did they fly to the Urals at the end of the war? ..
      1. 0
        13 November 2014 15: 10
        I say intelligence, photographing

        aerial photograph of some sort of Samara in January 1945 is not uncommon in a famous place
  10. +2
    13 November 2014 12: 50
    Quote: Serg 122
    Yes, there is something in common. Borrowing (especially in aviation) is a common thing
    And TB-3 was a trendsetter in the mid-30's
  11. +1
    13 November 2014 13: 47
    [quote = Serg 122] By the way, we also built something similar. Pe-8 (aka ANT-42, aka TB-7). The beginning of development is 1934, the first flight is 1936. By the way: the first blow to Berlin on Pe-8 aircraft was delivered on 10 on August 1941 of the year ...
    With our Pe8 in all characteristics, this Do17 can not be compared, although it is the same age.
    And they shot down, most likely "Condor"
    1. +5
      13 November 2014 14: 21
      With our Pe8 in all characteristics, this Do17 can not be compared, although it is the same age.

      BEFORE 19. Our - by all characteristics above. At least a third. In armament - twice
      Flight characteristics
      Cruising speed: 400 km / h
      Practical range: 3 600 km
      Ceiling: 9 300 m
      Rate of climb: m / s 5,9
      Climbing time: 5000 m in 14,6 min.
      Wing loading: 143,5 kg / m²
      Thrust ratio: 140 W / kg
      Takeoff run: 1100-2300 m (depending on take-off weight)
      path length: 580 m
      Aerodynamic quality: 14,8
      weaponry
      Cannon:
      2 × 20 mm ShVAK guns (top and tail point)
      2 × 12,7 mm UBT machine guns (subordinate gondolas)
      2 × 7,62 mm ShKAS machine gun (nose point)
      Combat load: up to 4000 kg
      could use bombs weighing 5000 kg
  12. 0
    13 November 2014 15: 09
    1600 km for a strategic bomber with a maximum bomb load of 1500 kg, not to mention the size and speed - it's ridiculous ...
  13. +2
    13 November 2014 15: 14
    At Pe-8, V.M. Molotov flew to London to negotiate the opening of the 2-th front.
    1. jjj
      +1
      13 November 2014 16: 50
      Quote: 16112014nk
      At Pe-8, V.M. Molotov flew to London to negotiate the opening of the 2-th front.

      Then he flew to Roosevelt
      1. 0
        13 November 2014 22: 26
        Wherever he just didn’t fly on it .... And in Europe, it’s quite calm over the occupied territories. Reliable aircraft Pe-8.
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  15. +1
    13 November 2014 17: 53
    Quote: Argon
    Structurally, the Do-19, like the Stirling, is a representative of the French school of multi-engine aircraft design

    Saying so, you only have in mind only Farman F.221 (222). The French had no other four-engined monitors for the 1934 year. So the French have a high profile with a rather thin wing profile and with engines on the suspension under the wing. With plywood and linen trim. To put it mildly, the pre-19 is a bit like. I would say as little as on TB-3. Because constructively TB-3 and Pre-19 are practically twin brothers. But, of course there was a four-engine bomber made within the framework of the French school, this is the Soviet TB-5. And more than the British, nor the Germans, nor the Americans.
    Quote: Argon
    This phrase became widely known in 39 AD as part of the disinformation campaign conducted by the German General Staff (in front of the "sea lion")
    I also watch TV3 sometimes, but I do not believe everything that is said there about conspiracies, aliens and disinformation. By the way, "sea lion" it really was a misinformation, I agree here, but this has nothing to do with Do-19
  16. +1
    13 November 2014 18: 18
    It should be remembered that in the first period of the war, the pilots had serious problems with the identification of enemy aircraft. In particular, the shot down He-100 and He-112 appeared in many reports, which, in principle, could not be. Therefore, the "Stalin's falcons" could "identify" the Do-19 in any other unusually large aircraft.


    Fighters, of course, could be confused. At a considerable distance, in the heat of battle, etc. And with what could they confuse a large four-engine aircraft with crosses?

    By the way, He 112 was used in June - September 1941 - in military operations against the USSR in Moldova and Ukraine.
  17. 0
    13 November 2014 18: 57
    Quote: 16112014nk
    At Pe-8, V.M. Molotov flew to London to negotiate the opening of the 2-th front.

    On the upgraded Pe-8. In the fuselage, an additional engine for boosting, i.e. flew at high altitude.
    1. +1
      13 November 2014 22: 02
      Quote: Grigorievich
      On the modernized Pe-8. In the fuselage an additional engine for boost

      The first vehicles were manufactured with an ACS (central pressurization unit), which allowed to significantly increase the altitude of the power plant and obtain high flight technical data, which made the TB-7 (Pe-8) practically invulnerable to air defense systems of that period. For organizational and technical reasons, the ACS was abandoned, but without it, according to the flight tactical data, the TB-7 remained among the best four-engine heavy bombers of World War II. The head of work on TB-7 was originally V.M. Petlyakov, and after his arrest, I.F. Nezval. The aircraft was produced with several types of engines and various types of defensive weapons. With engines AM-35A TB-7 (since 1942, the Pe-8) had a maximum speed at an altitude of 6360 m 443 km / h, practical ceiling of 10300 m, normal take-off weight of 27 tons, normal bomb load of 2000 kg, maximum - 4000 kg, defensive weapons 7
  18. -1
    13 November 2014 22: 19
    Quote: Bayonet
    Quote: Grigorievich
    On the modernized Pe-8. In the fuselage an additional engine for boost

    The first vehicles were manufactured with an ACS (central pressurization unit), which allowed to significantly increase the altitude of the power plant and obtain high flight technical data, which made the TB-7 (Pe-8) practically invulnerable to air defense systems of that period. For organizational and technical reasons, the ACS was abandoned, but without it, according to the flight tactical data, the TB-7 remained among the best four-engine heavy bombers of World War II. The head of work on TB-7 was originally V.M. Petlyakov, and after his arrest, I.F. Nezval. The aircraft was produced with several types of engines and various types of defensive weapons. With engines AM-35A TB-7 (since 1942, the Pe-8) had a maximum speed at an altitude of 6360 m 443 km / h, practical ceiling of 10300 m, normal take-off weight of 27 tons, normal bomb load of 2000 kg, maximum - 4000 kg, defensive weapons 7

    There was also a turbocharged AM-37 engine, but the turbine blade manufacturing technology ...
  19. -2
    14 November 2014 00: 15
    Quote: Almatinets
    in Golubev's book "Paired with the hundredth" there is a moment when they felled Dornier and Pokryshkin in the sky over Europe
    As far as I remember, Devyatayev also flew away from captivity on Dornier.
    1. +3
      14 November 2014 00: 34
      Quote: izGOI
      As far as I remember, Devyatayev also flew away from captivity on Dornier.

      On Heinkel - 111.
  20. -1
    14 November 2014 00: 20
    The first four-engine "strategist" of the Third Reich
    It is debatable. Recall a more successful plane of the same time "Condor"
    Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor (German: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor) - German 4-motor long-range multi-purpose monoplane of the Second World War period. Created as a long-range passenger and transport airliner, it was used by the German Air Force as a long-range reconnaissance aircraft and long-range bomber in the larger and most famous part of its application.
    TTX are approximately equal, but there were more of them
    Fw 200-V-1 Brandenburg

    Type - long-range airliner
    Crew: 4 person
    Length: 23,85 m
    Wingspan: 32,84 m
    Height: 6 m
    Wing area: 118 m²
    Empty weight: 9788 kg
    Normal takeoff weight: 14582 kg
    Engines: 4 × radial BMW-132L power 750 hp
    Propellers: two-bladed
    Cruising speed: 330 km / h
    Capacity: 26 passengers
    Normal flight range: over 3000 km with 4360 liters of fuel

    Fw 200C-3 / U4

    Type - long-range marine reconnaissance / bomber
    Crew: 7 people
    Length: 23,46 m
    Wingspan: 32,84 m
    Height: 6,3 m
    Wing area: 118 m²
    Empty weight: 12960 kg
    Maximum takeoff weight: 22720kg
    Engines: 4 × radial 9-cylinder Bramo-323К-2 Fafnir with an output of 1200 hp. On take-off with the injection of a water-alcohol mixture, 1000 hp near the ground without afterburner and 940 hp at a height of 4000 m
    Propellers: three-bladed
    Maximum speed:
    at altitude 4800m: 360 km / h
    at the ground: 306 km / h
    Cruising speed:
    at altitude 4000m: 332 km / h
    at the ground: 275 km / h
    Flight range at the best speed:
    3536 km with 8050 liters of fuel
    4400 km with 9950 liters of fuel
    Service ceiling: 5800 m

    weaponry

    Cannon:
    2 × 7,92-mm machine gun MG-15 with 1000 cartridges each - in a tower with a hydraulic drive Fw-19 in the front of the fuselage and in the rear of the gondola
    3 × 13 mm MG-131 machine gun - one with 500 cartridges on the top rear mount and two with 300 cartridges on the barrel in the side windows
    1 × 20 mm MG-151 cannon with 500 shells on a movable installation in the nose of the lower gondola
    Bomb:
    up to 2100 kg of bombs in combination 2 × 500 kg, 2 × 250 kg and 12 × 50 kg
    Search Equipment: Hohentwil Target Locator
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    15 November 2014 16: 11
    Quote: Denis
    It is debatable. Recall a more successful plane of the same time "Condor"
    Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor (German Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor) - German 4-engine long-range multi-purpose monoplane of the Second period

    Well, the Condor was then created later than Do-19. Therefore, he was only the third or fourth. Although the first serial. But he was not successful. Like a bomber jacket so-so. Still, the alteration of the passenger. But as a distant naval scout, he was excellent.
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      16 November 2014 00: 43
      Quote: Technical Engineer
      Well, Condor was created later than Do-19. Therefore, he was only the third or fourth. Although the first serial

      About the first or not, these are the same conventions. Suffice it to recall:
      MiG-9, taking off two hours earlier than its competitor, became the first Soviet jet fighter. 24 April 1946 years 11 hours 12 min. test pilot Aleksey Grinchik made the first take-off, and on the same day at 13 hours 56 minutes on the Yak-15 fighter made the first five-minute flight test pilot Mikhail Ivanov
      This is not a race where the score is in hundredths of a second. But the launch of the series says a lot