Electromagnetic weapons: what is the Russian army ahead of competitors

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Pulse electromagnetic weaponor so-called "Jammers", is a real, already undergoing tests, the type of weapons of the Russian army. The United States and Israel are also conducting successful developments in this area, however, they have relied on the use of EMR systems to generate kinetic energy of a warhead.

We also took the path of a direct damaging factor and created prototypes of several combat complexes at once - for the ground forces, the Air Force and the Navy. According to the specialists working on the project, the development of the technology has already passed the field test stage, but now we are working on errors and trying to increase the power, accuracy and range of the radiation. Today, our Alabuga, having exploded at an altitude of 200-300 meters, is capable of shutting down all electronic equipment within 3,5 radius and leaving a battalion / regiment-sized troop unit without communications, control, or fire guidance, while turning all enemy equipment available into a pile of useless scrap metal. Except how to surrender and give heavy weapons as trophies to the advancing units of the Russian army, in fact, there are no options.

"Glushilka" electronics

For the first time, the world saw a real-life prototype of electromagnetic weapons at the LIMA-2001 arms exhibition in Malaysia. There was presented an export version of the domestic complex "Ranets-E". It is made on the MAZ-543 chassis, has a mass of about 5 tons, provides guaranteed damage to the electronics of a ground target, aircraft or guided munition at distances up to 14 kilometers and disruptions in its operation at a distance of 40 km. Despite the fact that the firstborn made a real sensation in the world media, the specialists noted a number of its shortcomings. Firstly, the size of an effectively hit target does not exceed 30 meters in diameter, and secondly, a one-time weapon - reloading takes more than 20 minutes, during which the miracle cannon will shoot 15 from the air, and it can only work on open targets area, without the slightest visual obstacles. Probably for precisely these reasons, the Americans abandoned the creation of such an EMP-weapon of directional action, concentrating on laser technology. Our gunsmiths decided to try their luck and try to “bring to mind” the technology of directional electromagnetic radiation.

The specialist of Rostec, for obvious reasons, did not wish to disclose its name, in an interview with Expert Online expressed the opinion that the electromagnetic pulsed weapon is already a reality, but the whole problem lies in how it is delivered to the target. “We have in our work a project for the development of an electronic warfare complex with the“ OV ”security secrecy called“ Alabuga ”. This is a rocket, the combat unit of which is a high-frequency high-power electromagnetic field generator.

Active pulsed radiation produces a nuclear explosion, only without a radioactive component. Field tests showed high efficiency of the unit - not only radio-electronic, but also ordinary electronic equipment of wire architecture, fails within a radius of 3,5 km. Those. not only removes the main communication headsets from normal operation, blinding and stunning the enemy, but in fact leaves the whole unit without any local electronic control systems, including weapons. The advantages of such a "non-lethal" defeat are obvious - the enemy will only have to surrender, and the equipment can be obtained as a trophy. The problem is only in the effective means of delivering this charge - it has a relatively large mass and the rocket must be sufficiently large and, as a result, very vulnerable to destruction of air defense / missile defense, ”the expert explained.

The developments of NIIRP (now a subdivision of the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern) and the Physico-Technical Institute named for them are interesting. Ioffe Investigating the effect of powerful microwave radiation from the ground on air objects (targets), the specialists of these institutions unexpectedly received local plasma formations, which were obtained at the intersection of radiation fluxes from several sources. In contact with these formations aerial targets underwent enormous dynamic overloads and collapsed. The coordinated operation of microwave sources made it possible to quickly change the focus point, that is, to perform a re-targeting at an enormous speed or to accompany objects of virtually any aerodynamic characteristics. Experiments have shown that the impact is effective even in the combat units of ICBMs. In fact, this is not even a microwave weapon, but combat plasmoids. Unfortunately, when, in 1993, the team of authors presented a draft of an air defense / missile defense system based on these principles, Boris Yeltsin immediately offered a joint development to the American president for the consideration of the state. And although cooperation on the project did not take place, it is possible that this prompted the Americans to create the HAARP complex (High freguencu Active Auroral Research Program) in Alaska - a research project to study the ionosphere and auroras. It should be noted that for some reason this peace project is financed by the Pentagon’s DARPA agency.

Already entered service with the Russian army

To understand what place the topic of radio-electronic warfare occupies in the military-technical strategy of the Russian military department, it suffices to look at the State Arms Program until 2020. Of the total budget 21 trillion rubles of HPV, 3,2 trillion (about 15%) is planned to be spent on the development and production of attack and defense systems using sources of electromagnetic radiation. For comparison, in the budget of the Pentagon, according to experts, this proportion is much less - up to 10%. Now let's look at what can already be “felt” now, i.e. those products that have reached the series and entered service over the past few years.

The Krasukha-4 mobile electronic warfare systems suppress spy satellites, ground-based radars and aviation AWACS system, completely closes from radar detection at 150-300 km, and can also inflict radar damage to enemy electronic warfare systems and communications. The operation of the complex is based on the creation of powerful interference at the fundamental frequencies of radars and other radio-emitting sources. Manufacturer: JSC "Bryansk Electromechanical Plant" (BEMZ).

Means of electronic warfare sea-based TK-25E provides effective protection for ships of various classes. The complex is designed to provide electronic protection of the object from radio-controlled weapons of air and ship-based by creating active interference. It is planned to interface the complex with various systems of the protected object, such as a navigation complex, a radar station, and an automated combat command and control system. The equipment TC-25E provides the creation of various types of interference with the width of the spectrum from 64 to 2000 MHz, as well as pulsed misleading and simulation interference using copies of signals. The complex is able to simultaneously analyze up to 256 targets. Equipping the protected object with the TK-25E complex reduces the probability of its damage by three or more times.

The multifunctional complex “Mercury-BM” was developed and produced at KRET enterprises from 2011 of the year and is one of the most modern EW systems. The main purpose of the station is to protect manpower and equipment from single and volley fire of artillery ammunition equipped with radio-fuses. Enterprise developer: All-Russian Research Institute Gradient (Gradient Scientific-Research Institute). Similar devices are made by Minsk “KB RADAR”. Note that radio fuzers are now equipped with up to 80% of Western field artillery shells, mines and unguided rockets and almost all precision-guided munitions, these fairly simple tools allow you to protect troops from damage, including directly in the zone of contact with the enemy.

Concern "Constellation" produces a series of small-sized (wearable, portable, stand-alone) interference transmitters series RP-377. With their help, you can jam GPS signals, and in the standalone version, equipped with power sources, also placing the transmitters on a certain area, limited only by the number of transmitters. An export version of a more powerful GPS suppression system and weapon control channels is being prepared. It is already a system of object and areal protection against high-precision weapons. It was built on the modular principle, which allows to vary the area and objects of protection. Of unclassified developments are also known products MNIRTI - "Sniper-M" "I-140 / 64" and "Gigawatt", made on the basis of car trailers. They, in particular, are used for testing means of protection of radio engineering and digital systems of military, special and civil purposes from the destruction of electromagnetic radiation.

Educational program

The elemental base of the XPS is very sensitive to energy overloads, and the flow of electromagnetic energy of sufficiently high density can burn out semiconductor junctions, completely or partially disrupting their normal functioning. Low Frequency EMI Generates Electromagnetic Pulse

radiation at frequencies below 1 MHz, high-frequency electromagnetic radiation is emitted by microwave radiation - both pulsed and continuous. Low-frequency EMO affects the object through interference with wired infrastructure, including telephone lines, cables for external power supply, information feed and retrieval. High-frequency electromagnetic radiation directly penetrates the electronic equipment of an object through its antenna system. In addition to the impact on the enemy's RES, high-frequency EMO can also affect the skin and internal organs of a person. Moreover, as a result of their heating in the body, chromosomal and genetic changes are possible, activation and deactivation of viruses, transformation of immunological and behavioral reactions.

The main technical means of obtaining powerful electromagnetic pulses that form the basis of a low-frequency electromagnetic pulse is a generator with explosive compression of a magnetic field. Another potential type of high-level low-frequency magnetic energy source could be a magnetodynamic generator driven by rocket fuel or an explosive. When implementing high-frequency EMO, electronic devices such as broadband magnetrons and millimeter-wave gyrotrons, virtual cathode generators (vircators) using the centimeter range, free-electron lasers and wide-band plasma-beam ones can be used as a generator of powerful microwave radiation. generators.
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  1. +6
    30 September 2014 09: 56
    Well done scientists. There is life in the old dog yet. Not all forever sold to green.
    1. jjj
      +4
      30 September 2014 13: 05
      It was all invented a long time ago. They talked about this in a whisper. And now it's time to speak in full force. Not all told yet
      1. tkhonov66
        +7
        30 September 2014 15: 17
        Yes sir!
        - Or as the "colonels" used to say at the military department of our university:
        "The technology is new, military - scientists may not know ..."
        8-))
        1. +1
          1 October 2014 01: 35
          The article is illiterate. The author has piled up a lot of completely diverse things. The radiation power drops as a square of the radius from the source, and a defeat within a radius of 3.5 km requires nuclear energy. A nuclear explosion produces a powerful LW electromagnetic pulse, and the size of the emitter there is hundreds of meters.
          Russia has great achievements in creating electromagnetic ammunition, but you can’t deceive physics, they are of local action.
          I recommend Prischepenko's book "Rustle of a Pomegranate" on this topic. A very comprehensive and quite popular piece on the subject of EMP weapons.
  2. +17
    30 September 2014 10: 01
    EMR is a terribly effective tactical crap. And why cook such things for export? Does KB need money?
    You can sell something else, and sponsor this sector by the state.
    1. +2
      30 September 2014 12: 28
      Quote: Floock
      EMR is a terribly effective tactical crap.

      So "effective" that it is not used anywhere. Well, direct nuclear ofuzhie. Faraday cages are not enough for them. lol
      1. +5
        30 September 2014 12: 55
        Commenting on their actions, they said that they did not intend to endanger their lives.
        The Pentagon issued a statement on Monday stating that the Russian Su-24 bomber flew several times on Saturday near the US Navy destroyer Donald Cook in the Black Sea and simulated a military attack several times.
        As Pentagon spokesman Colonel Stephen Warren told Reuter, a Russian bomber flew twelve times at low altitude not far from an American destroyer. He called these maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable, since this demoralizes the personnel of the ship and negatively affects the general psychological climate among the military personnel.
        Warren noted that the destroyer patrolled the waters in the west of the Black Sea when the incident occurred. According to him, now the ship is safe in the Romanian port, where it was urgently evacuated. The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress.
        "Donald Cook" - the third, in a row, the US Navy ship, which was sent to the Black Sea in recent years. Earlier, the United States had already sent a missile frigate Taylor to the sea, but the ship ran aground off the Black Sea coast of Turkey, which is why it was unable to continue its mission.
        Under international maritime treaties, American ships cannot be in the Black Sea for more than 21 days, and exceeding this period gives Russia the legal right to launch a missile attack and destroy these ships without declaring US war. Knowing this possibility, crew members and commanders of American ships naturally worry about their lives. And although the Pentagon promised to increase the insurance amount of military personnel from 1 million dollars. up to 3 million dollars, it’s all the same, few people are reassured, since there are few chances to survive on the high seas and then get insurance payment, but the dead do not need money.
        As a result, the crew of the Donald Cook was forced to sail with a shortage of personnel, and the dismissal of another 27 crew members, who may be followed by others, jeopardizes the further successful implementation of the task.

        http://novorus.info/news/policy/15233-pentagon-priznal-chto-imitaciya-at
        1. tkhonov66
          +6
          30 September 2014 15: 46
          "...
          As Pentagon spokesman Colonel Stephen Warren told Reuter, a Russian bomber flew twelve times at low altitude not far from an American destroyer. He called these maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable, since this demoralizes the personnel of the ship and negatively affects the general psychological climate among the military personnel.
          ..."
          .
          The Donald Cook is not your rusty Zaporozhye submarine, but the fourth-generation US Navy destroyer, the main weapon of which is guided missiles. This is the most massive post-war ship with a displacement of more than 5000 tons: 1988 units have been built since 62, another 13 are planned. The main weapons of the Cook are Tomahawk cruise missiles with a flight range of up to 2500 kilometers, capable of carrying nuclear charges. In the conventional and strike versions, the destroyer is equipped with 56 or 96 such missiles, respectively.
          The 380 people who make up the crew are well protected. Donald Cook’s combat posts are surrounded by Kevlar - 130 tons of this expensive but durable material are used for each ship. A small superstructure is covered with radar absorbing material. Below the waterline, the destroyer is protected by high-strength magnesium-aluminum alloys. To reduce underwater noise, air is supplied to the edges of the propellers. As a result, a cloud of bubbles forms, distorting and smoothing the sonar “portrait” of the ship.
          Finally, Donald Cook is equipped with the latest Aegis combat information and control system - among other things, it combines the air defense systems of all the ships on which it is installed into a common network, allowing it to simultaneously track and fire hundreds of targets. On the edges of the destroyer superstructure are four huge antennas of a universal radar that replaces several conventional radars. Together with the Tomahawks, in the universal launchers on the bow and stern, fifty anti-aircraft guided missiles of different classes are waiting in the wings.
          That is, in the black sea there was a typical, beloved by the Americans, mouse fuss - rattling weapons and international rudeness. It would seem that the appearance of such a ship in the Black Sea should cause shock and awe.
          - So it happened, but not on the other side.
          Russia's reaction was calm, but deadly: on April 12, the great day of cosmonautics, ours equipped an unarmed SU-24 aircraft for overflight in neutral waters, but with a container suspended under its wing with the latest Russian electronic warfare system Khibiny.
          Further, everything developed approximately according to this scenario: the Cook still noticed the “drying” approach from afar, played a combat alert and froze at the fighting posts. Everything was going smoothly, the radars considered a course of approach with a target, Aegis regularly controlled guidance systems. And suddenly - clap! Everything went out. Aegis does not work, screens show turbidity, even fast-firing Phalanxes cannot get target designation! SU-24 meanwhile passed over the deck of the Cook, made a combat turn and simulated a missile attack on the target. Of course, successful - because there is no opposition! Then he turned around and imitated another one. And so on - another 10 times! All attempts by technicians to revive the Aegis and give target designation for air defense failed and only then, when the silhouette of the "drying" melted in the haze above the Russian coast, the screens came to life, and the guidance systems faithfully showed a clear April glowing emptiness.
          1. tkhonov66
            +10
            30 September 2014 15: 54
            So, my dear, when our “Donald Cook” entered the Black Sea to raise the flag of freedom and democracy there high, the captain built us on the deck and delivered a speech: “Guys, we have a particularly important mission - to demonstrate America's fearlessness before an unbelted Russian a bear. You all know that the Russians took half of the territory in the form of Crimea from democratic Ukraine and are preparing to chop off its second half. This threatens our national interests, because we cannot allow anyone to chop off what we can chop off ourselves. Do not doubt what the Russian bear will do in his pants when he sees such a weapon of retaliation, like our "Donald Cook".

            We shouted “Hyp-Hyp Hurray” three times and began to prepare to show the Russians what was waiting for them if they raised their hand to the second half of Ukraine. The next day, when our ship was heading towards the Crimea, we found in the sky a Russian flying trough called the SU-24 and has been graduating since our parents still went to elementary school. Therefore, when we played the alarm, we fled to our battle posts, anticipating how to play cat and mouse with this messenger from the past. On the run, I even managed to bet with Ed that I could take this rusty iron under the gun more times than he did. Ed runs the same Falanks rapid-fire system as I do, and we thought there was no escape from her.

            We drove the Russian locator to its approach to the affected area, so that later it was covered. However, when he entered this damn zone, mysticism began. Our locators were the first to go out, then the target designation of the Phalanxes turned off, and the whole Aegis was out of order. Our magnificent "Donald Cook" swayed in the waves like a dead turtle. It turns out that this damned Russian scrap metal, SU-24, turned on the electronic suppression equipment, and the pride of our fleet turned into our shame! And the Russian openly mocked us. He made twelve training attacks on us, rode on our locators with his belly, jammed us with the roar of the engine, and generally showed us that on such a shitty trough only the crappiest team could fly ... When he flew away, he waved his wings, and Ed even imagined what he showed us the middle finger of the right hand. But I think Ed is composing, because at a military college we were taught that in such cases, Russians show cookies.

            We have never experienced such a shame in our life. Some of our guys were crying like children, others were banging their heads against inactive devices, the senior mate drank a bottle of whiskey from his throat in front of the crew and yelled at the whole ship: "These fucking Russian" Khibiny "", and the captain was green with anger. In this state, we could barely moor to the Romanian coast, and at once three dozen of our guys wrote a letter of resignation. They could not bear the thought that at the decisive moment our equipment could turn into, with which they would have to go to the bottom of the sea. I was hysterical and they took me to the hospital. Mary, I have always loved our America and wanted the Stars and Stripes to bring freedom to the whole world. But after this incident, the thought of dismissal began to haunt me. To hell with them, money, my dear. Better you and I buy a small farm in Arizona, grow celery for sale and sing psalms in our church on Sundays. If one old Russian trough could put our supermodern "Donald Cook" on its side, then imagine what their new planes can do! And if they are capable of suppressing not only the instruments, but also the brains of the crew? Think for yourself, why do you need me without brains? I kiss you hard, always your Johnny.
            1. Pereval
              0
              1 October 2014 00: 01
              Link to the original is weak to give?
              1. tkhonov66
                +2
                1 October 2014 09: 37
                It is very problematic to give a link to the primary source ... the primary source has long been shared by reposts - and it is RELIABLE to establish who was the FIRST - probably it is possible (in principle) - but it requires significant body movements, which I do "vlomishche" ... Sorry.
                .
                - but if you can be comforted by those (most likely) reposts that I had to CUT, in order to squeeze the result into the limit of letters on one post on this site - then health - TAKE CARE:
                http://www.rg.ru/2014/04/30/reb-site.html
                http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/48815/
                http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2014/04/17/etot-prokljatyj-russkij-metallolom-27063.ht
                ml
                - from you, dear, - I do not have any secrets ...
                8-))
            2. 0
              1 October 2014 23: 04
              in a word, we can assume that when the pilot of that Russian trough began to throw the "Belomor" bulls onto the deck, Johnny wrapped himself in a flag and began to gallop along his trough and, ofigel, as he was not the first in his idea ... ...
      2. +7
        30 September 2014 14: 07
        Quote: professor
        So "effective" that it is not used anywhere.

        1.Electromagnetic destruction systems are in service in the United States and other NATO countries.
        America ordered 114 aircraft (equipped with EMO), and has already received 53.

        2 An EMO-filled rocket developed at the Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico, and will soon be tested on the White Sands Missile Range.
        3.Applied
        Boeing Growler, uses electromagnetics as offensive weapons. The Growler, which first saw action in Iraq in 2010 and has been extensively (though discreetly) deployed during the NATO air war against Colonel Qaddafi's forces in Libya, is a souped-up version of the Super Hornet.
        4: F-35 provides Small AESAs as one of the EMO options
        Quote: professor
        Faraday cells do not have enough.

        Expensive
        EMP-tronic from gs. Morarp, Sweden
        To cover one a mere 20 meters square with a copper-mesh Faraday cage the firm charges € 300,000 ($ 400,000).
        20 meters of "protection" 300000 Euro
        Canadians (National Research Council Canada and the other at Global Contour) really promise to reduce the cost of using electrically conductive cement: 1м3 = $ 20 to $ 150 per cubic meter ADDITIONAL to usual building prices

        It’s not for nothing that Daniel Tam and Co. of the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command in San Diego are working on using the electrical conductivity of sodium and chlorine ions in seawater to create a new type of Faraday cage:A shroud (curtain) of sea water around the ship, thrown out of special pumps and hoses, will protect the warship if it comes under electromagnetic attack
        1. +3
          30 September 2014 15: 33
          The turbulent flow of water is a very highly ionized medium that can be converted into an ionized body of the melt. That's the protective email. magnetic shell. Moreover, it is a structured shell on the entire electronic scale. magnetic waves. Therefore, even to protect astronauts and aircraft pilots, you can create a special shell from overloads. You can consider such a shell from a highly dynamic flow of water. And certain additions to water can increase its ionizing ability many times over.
          It doesn’t matter to Americans, Russians, Swedes or anyone else. All the same, everyone works on the same electronic component. That is, the same basic linear electronic devices.
          1. +1
            30 September 2014 17: 09
            Quote: gridasov
            The turbulent flow of water is about

            1. I do not really understand what the ("EM shell") turbulence in the boundary layer will give at Re> 105? The take-off point is still shifted to the stern.
            And the fact that there is turbulence in the wake ... how will it help?
            2. What kind of IONIZATION of water (even sea water) in the TS do you interpret?
            an alternating electromagnetic field is indeed one of the causes of turbulence in GASES, but there are completely different speeds ...
            1. +1
              30 September 2014 17: 31
              We are talking about turbulence on the surface of the body, as the surface of the outflow. And you are reasoning correctly, but I am precisely focusing on the fact that the propulsors should be located in the front of the hull and not only in the watercraft. This is similar to what happens in fish and they regulate the flow by the degree of opening of the gills. This is not to mention the formation of the surface shape itself. And there the laws are completely obvious and are aimed precisely at the formation of polarization in the stream itself, more precisely its layers and jets and directly on the surface of the body. What is sonoluminescence on the surface of the turbulent flow? This is not only cavitation, it is also a discharge zone between the flow and the body. Therefore, objects shine at high speeds. and especially in the water.
              If you do not know about the ionizing properties of water, then there are experiments of the eighteenth century. In addition, this is the effect of COanda.
              1. +1
                30 September 2014 18: 24
                Quote: gridasov
                We are talking about turbulence on the surface of the body, as the surface of the outflow.

                Well then there can be no turbulence on the surface!
                In the border layer-YES, it blows, CLOSER TO FEED. Unless of course you use special initiators (roughness for example)
                Quote: gridasov
                they regulate the flow by the degree of openness of the gills.

                I pass ... not in the know
                Quote: gridasov
                Therefore, objects shine at high speeds

                Bioluminescence
                The answer to the riddle was found in the 1753 year, when the natural scientist Becker saw under the magnifying glass tiny, about 2 mm in diameter, single-celled organisms scurrying in a drop of sea water with the help of a flagellum and responding with flashes of light to any mechanical or chemical irritation.
                If the jellyfish were disturbed, they shone brightly with a green phosphoric light. Forskol alcoholized several specimens of jellyfish and wrote in Latin in his travel diary: “they glow with irritation and death”.


                Quote: gridasov
                If you do not know about the ionizing properties of water,

                no i don't know
                I only know the Redox potential (ORP) / RedOx - Reduction / Oxidation / and pH of water, yes
                "living water" (catholyte), and "dead water" (anolyte)
                =====
                but the redox potential: this is the presence of hydrogen sulfide, oxygen and Fe3 +, Mo6 +, As5-, V5 +, U6 +, Sr4 +, Cu2 +, Pb2 +, Fe2 +, Mn2 +, Mo4 +, V4 +, U4 in the water, and not "turbulence"
                1. 0
                  30 September 2014 18: 52
                  Firstly, turbulence is a complex process when the kinetic energy of the local stream or its stream, or layer, or the entire aggregate local stream is aligned in all coordinate axes inside the stream due to the formation of potential internal energy of this stream. These are always fast-acting energy and information events. And turbulence is never chaotic under any circumstances. We have developed a method for analyzing a turbulent process as a dynamic one, interconnected at each point of analysis and occurring simultaneously at these points of energy and mathematical transformations. And this is not all the announced processes. Because they always have previous interconnected events and subsequent ones. By the way, you did not mention some of the most important in a number of elements. It is one whose presence which reduces the total kinetic energy of the flow causes an increase in potential energy. It is from the potential energy that the vector processes of the formation of the potential difference between the surface of the flow occur, if there is such a stream itself in systemically connected layers and jets.
                  And finally, the Glow of deep-sea marine animals is the obvious property that it is in the ionized shell of the balanced potential of the internal living system and the external environment that such creatures exist. For a long time, everyone understands that water does not push a column at great depths. Water pressure is nothing more than a space with a radial pressure vector at each point in this space. That is, such a space is analyzed by completely different mathematical methods.
        2. tkhonov66
          +1
          30 September 2014 16: 02
          "... A veil (curtain) of sea water around the ship, thrown out from special pumps and hoses, will protect the warship if it comes under an electromagnetic attack ..."
          .
          If the ship ALREADY HAS BEEN hit by an electromagnetic attack, then even "special pumps" will not turn on ...
          .
          And if they turn on - and, like "protect" - then these pumps they will no less successfully CUT OFF all means of detecting this ship - more "Faraday cage" - acts absolutely SYMMETRICALLY ...
          8-))
          - and the goal of the attack (to blind the enemy) - will be achieved ANYWHERE - you like with "special pumps", but you like without them. But in the first case (with pumps), the enemy will BLIND his radar - absolutely independently ...
          8-)))
          1. +1
            30 September 2014 17: 18
            Quote: tkhonov66
            If the ship ALREADY HAS BEEN hit by an electromagnetic attack, then even the "special pumps" will not turn on.

            1. It means starting up a rocket with EMO, and not the initiation of EMO itself (maybe even the fastest pumps will not keep pace with the speed of propagation of EM waves)
            2. Pumps may not be on electric motors: diesel, pressure accumulator (compressed air, powder charge), chemical (peroxide). They don’t need electricity
            Quote: tkhonov66
            Bo "Faraday cage" - acts absolutely SYMMETRICALLY

            1.Voobshche that it (KF) is created FROM EXTERNAL EM influences, roughly speaking "Grounding".
            2. Of course, the CF will hardly miss the radar signal from the "inside" out
            3.NO!
            And who interferes with turning on the water curtain, when a rocket arrives with an EMO, "wait out" the influence of EMO (thousandths of a second), then turn OFF the PUMPS (close the valves) ... the curtain (fog) of water will "fall" under the action of gravity, KF will not use the radar
            ?
            Quote: tkhonov66
            and the target of the attack (to blind the enemy) -

            The purpose of an EMO attack is to destroy (bring out for a long time) equipment (electronic) and mechanisms (electrical) of the enemy’s object.
            Blinds EW.
            Turned off the water supply pumps, use electronic warfare, Spay-1, if I'm not mistaken, it goes into a mode like up to 30-40 seconds, if you turn it off.
            And if you do not turn off anything at all under an umbrella from a curtain of water?
      3. +1
        1 October 2014 01: 42
        Professor, there was a report that in Baghdad a "vircator" in the size of a fugasca with a caliber of a thousand kg was thrown off at the television center. They took him out of action for several hours. If there was a real fugasca, they would be disabled forever. About the "Faraday" screen - to the very point. Plasmons to destroy aircraft - well, as long as it's a "wunderwaffle".
        All other means of electronic warfare are absolutely real, effective and extremely useful to the troops.
  3. Lenivets
    +12
    30 September 2014 10: 01
    Again this nonsense!
    The railgun and this jammer are completely different things, for different tasks and are developed both here and over the hill.
    And the article is written in the spirit: we use electro-magnetic waves for radar, and after the hill we went the wrong way and use them in radio communications and television. :-))
    (I clarify: I'm not against the jammer, but against the "specialist" who sprinkled this article)
    1. 225chay
      +4
      30 September 2014 10: 58
      Quote: Lenivets
      Again this nonsense!



      This is a very serious weapon with a wide range and scope ...
      1. 0
        30 September 2014 16: 15
        EW systems are a serious thing, no one argues. And electromagnetic impulse weapons are also not a fairy tale. Just the quality of the article, as it were gently put it, is yellowish in general. The first thought when reading is an answer to a professor from the Jewish community, a fan of laser guns. hi
        By the way, with regards to the "Fardeya cage" -antennas of combat interactive complexes and the emitters of combat devices in the cage cannot be hidden (functionality will suffer), which is a rather weak point of interactive systems. So we'll take a look.
      2. Lenivets
        0
        30 September 2014 20: 27
        I am forced to repeat: "I clarify: I am not against the jammer, but against that" specialist "who sprinkled this article."
    2. tkhonov66
      0
      30 September 2014 16: 23
      Railgun - it is of course MIGHTY ...
      - But here is the SCATTERING of his shells - here it is - and does not climb into any gates ...
      8-)))
      1. +1
        30 September 2014 17: 35
        If we talk about the railgun, then you just need to build it on the rolling moments of the spin formed on magnetic coils. Then there are no critical points like the oscillatory motion of a pendulum. After all, everyone knows that an inductor has a vector of a longitudinal vector of magnetic force and spin. So all electric modern cars are built on a longitudinal vector, but it would be necessary on the back. Ie his break-in moment. Remember Searle.
  4. ISKANDER25
    +2
    30 September 2014 10: 14
    Hello! Informative! hi
  5. +3
    30 September 2014 10: 41
    Interestingly, barrage filters and shielding of cable lines no longer help? For example, switches are equipped with all sorts of "arresters", etc. In addition, the cable communication line has a significant capacity, and HF pickups "go into the ground" well. So - maybe it will act, but at a short distance and not at all. (purely IMHO)
    1. +5
      30 September 2014 12: 16
      If you know, then the plasma breakdown itself is a source of momentum, but on other algorithms. Transmission lines are torn in areas of the highest concentration of magnetic fluxes. In this case, an effect similar to that causing fluctuations of the flag canvas is observed, only during ionization, not by an air flow, but by magnetic fluxes equivalent to electric. magnetic impulse. Therefore, only the transition from linear to radial semiconductor components can cardinally increase the basic stability of the equipment components. On a simple basis, the whole schematic should not be built on flat boards, but on completely different principles. And these are direct conclusions from the simplest physics. In addition, EMR can and can easily be justified as the possibility that the impulse can be not only a bipolar algorithm, but also a multipolar one.
    2. Oleg_W
      +3
      30 September 2014 15: 39
      In vain someone put you the pluses. With some knowledge of radiophysics, transceivers and circuitry, your statements about the filter, surge arresters .... sound somewhat primitive. for example, superheterodyne receivers or ShPS systems have frequency ranges that pass through the entire radio receiving path and cannot even be theoretically protected from them. The receiver is a complex system, so back to the simpler components - filters and arresters. the performance of these elements is not perfect (not at all perfect). Cable lines are a separate topic of conversation ...

      In general, I’ll say that there are influences that disable equipment, but there are some that make its work not impossible. Each type of exposure needs its own exposure minimization measures and other principles for building electronic equipment. Here, everything is not at all simple and the principle of fighting armor and shell works no matter how when.
      1. +1
        30 September 2014 15: 54
        Oleg . This is exactly what I am writing about. Only I immediately say that there are methods and devices by which all these issues can be resolved. Pluses are needed for girls playing skipping ropes. Scientists must solve problems and implement them. And in such conversations there is a search for truths.
      2. 0
        30 September 2014 16: 19
        Oleg_W -take off my hat! into the hole.
      3. tkhonov66
        0
        30 September 2014 16: 28
        "...
        ShPS systems have frequency ranges that go through the entire radio receiving path
        ..."
        .
        "go right through" is absolutely unnecessary.
        It is quite enough by overloading - to put the input stage into non-linear mode (and even out-of-band! Interference for the input stage - if the input filter will skip this interference) ...
    3. tkhonov66
      +2
      30 September 2014 16: 20
      "...
      Interestingly, barrage filters and shielding of cable lines no longer help? For example, switches are equipped with all sorts of "spark gaps", etc.
      ..."
      .
      - they help ... in the sense - so that the input circuits of the radar during such an attack - would not stupidly burn out from overload - and ensure the operability of the entire radar - already AFTER the EMY ATTACK, and not DURING such an attack. So the performance of the entire radar in such an "unburnt" / protected by arresters
      the state of its input circuits - no one promises ... That's what it is ...
      - Moreover, the "triggered" arrester itself is a generator of a HUGE power NOISE signal - connected in parallel with the highly sensitive input of the radar ...
      .
      Say this, that today there are supposedly some digital signal processing algorithms (DSP) that allow you to detect a signal with levels much lower than the level of interference / noise?
      - Yes there is...
      But all these "tricks" work only if the input (ALWAYS ANALOGUE!) Cascade of the radar works IN LINEAR MODE. And with an EMP attack, the radar input stage is HOPELESSLY OVERLOADED and stays well if in a quadratic mode, or even in a cubic one, which NONLINEAR mode turns into the same NOISE - ANY useful signal (see the story with "Donald Cook").
      .
      in such and such an acceptance ...
      8-)
  6. +3
    30 September 2014 11: 03
    It seems that all this is and works with us. The fact is that Igor Ashurbeyli said that the S-500 is the latest production of the concern, the next line of weapons will be based on physical principles.
    1. +2
      30 September 2014 12: 20
      Just don't tell stories. If there was real knowledge, but the results would be completely different. It is impossible to create a sufficient energy density on modern principles. In addition, there is always a limit to such a density that will always penetrate the Earth. This is exactly what happens in the hadron collider. They want to increase the "power", and this produces an equivalent effect.
      1. +7
        30 September 2014 12: 35
        Quote: gridasov
        On modern principles it is impossible to create a sufficient energy density

        And what about the EMP from an atomic explosion?
        Suppose that the explosion is not nuclear, but from chemical explosives, and the instantaneous parameters of the EM field strength are close to EMR-NW.

        You know how the expected nuclear explosion is escaping from EMP at shielded critical facilities - literally chopping incoming cables from the outside. And they are switching to non-electronic automated control systems, which are implemented on other principles. And only after the passage of EMR - they again turn on electronic equipment on semiconductors, if it has survived ... And if it has not survived - do they turn on electronic tubes and reed switches ...
        1. +2
          30 September 2014 12: 40
          Absolutely right ! Because the object itself becomes a radial electronic component in which the polarization is directed radially. And this must be done in the production of these email. components. In fact, they are all built on linear principles. You yourself gave the answer.
          1. jjj
            +3
            30 September 2014 13: 09
            By the way, they quickly realized that there was no need for this big nuclear explosion. To disable the entire NATO command and control system, a very small charge is enough, "dug" for the time being somewhere on the European lawn
            1. +4
              30 September 2014 13: 41
              Quote: jjj
              Enough to disable NATO’s entire command and control system

              ... I would not detail what and how;)))))
              Let the brain of a NATO gay-swimmer think that ...
              They will be especially useful in putting out of action the control units of NATA - Banderimmigrants, Islamists-Wahhabis, nariki-punks and other vanguard of the "democratics" :)))
              1. +1
                30 September 2014 15: 31
                Quote: Rus2012
                . I would not detail what and how


                The task is in the means of delivery and reduction of the size and mass of the EMP source without loss of power. You can use the existing conversion delivery systems, you can make special products ... We were inclined towards the first option, but due to uncertainty in Ukraine they decided not to risk it ... A good option to withdraw from the INF Treaty and use the technical backlog of Iskander RK the problem with increasing the range solvable elementary. plus practical invulnerability of the carrier is achieved ... For high-tech NATy just right in the European theater of operations.
                in general, it is necessary to solve the problem of how to achieve the desired effect without air nuclear weapons with a megaton charge, which means immediate nuclear war by conventional non-nuclear means and methods.
        2. tkhonov66
          0
          30 September 2014 16: 49
          "...
          And they are switching to non-electronic automated control systems, which are implemented on other principles.
          ..."
          .
          - Yes!
          On mechanical arithmometers, abacus, abacus, tabulators, fountain pens, cardboard horns for the transmission of oral orders and long-distance transmission of correspondence by pneumatic mail and couriers.
          8-))
          .
          "...
          -And if it doesn’t survive, they include circuits on electronic lamps and reed switches ...
          ..."
          - Yes! - as well as on geckos and newts!
          8-))
          .
          And how much Junk (it turns out! ;-) is stored on these very "shielded critical objects" ...
          - anyone could only think!
          8-)))
          .
          But the worst thing about this strange assumption is that for such a "transition to non-electronic ACS" ALL DATA of "electronic ACS" MUST BE DUPLICATED on carriers for "non-electronic ACS" ... And at the same time do it CONSTANTLY !!!!
          - insanity grew stronger ...
          8 - ((
          1. 0
            1 October 2014 16: 26
            Quote: tkhonov66
            DUPLICATE on carriers for "non-electronic ACS" ... And at the same time do it CONSTANTLY !!!!

            punched tape or punched card? Ne?
      2. tkhonov66
        0
        30 September 2014 15: 30
        "...
        In addition, there is always a limit to such a density that will always pierce the Earth.
        ..."
        .
        he himself understood - what did he say?
        8-))
        .
        Finally, in the "hadron collider" the energy density has been reached - corresponding to the quark-gluon plasma ...
        (15 GeV / fm_v_kube
        where:
        GeV is giga_electron-volt, or 10 to the 9th degree electron-volt
        fm_v_cube is a cube with a side of 10 to the "-15" th power of a meter ...
        see for example http://nuclphys.sinp.msu.ru/antimatter/ant19.htm)
        .
        - and nothing ... In any case, the "ground" is still not "broken" ...
        8-))
        .
        .
        We all studied a little ...
        - to something and somehow ...
        1. +3
          30 September 2014 15: 48
          I realized that I wrote. It’s a pity that not everyone can understand this. You all measure with invented units of measure that are suitable only for low-potential measurements. And paste them anywhere. All breakdowns on the collider are precisely reduced to a breakdown of the coils. Sometimes you need to not only learn, but think yourself
          1. tkhonov66
            +1
            30 September 2014 16: 39
            "...
            You all measure with invented units of measure,
            ..."
            .
            - yeah, what they are - we measure them. As they say - what is rich ...
            8-))
            I will only note that these are the most invented units of measurement that allow LITERATE people to UNDERSTAND and REPLAY what is written on paper - in the laboratory. Which FACT - and distinguishes the REPRODUCTABLE scientific result from the UNREPRODUCTABLE pseudo-scientific nonsense, which is understood only by the one who wrote it ... and then (as a rule) only until - until he ponders the "written" ...
            8-))
            - and what does this have to do with the collider's "breakdowns" ?!
            - and ANY LITERACY person learns ALL LIFE ...
            8-)))
    2. Lenivets
      +1
      30 September 2014 21: 11
      Listen less to what Igor Ashurbeyli says. He now has nothing to do with Almaz-Antey. And even before, when he headed it, I did not understand anything about this (bazaar education does not help much in radio electronics).
  7. +5
    30 September 2014 11: 04
    Quote: Lenivets
    The railgun and this jammer are completely different things, for different tasks and are developed both here and over the hill.
    And the article is written in the spirit: we use electro-magnetic waves for radar, and after the hill we went the wrong way and use them in radio communications and television. :-))

    Almost the only controversial point from the whole article, which in principle is EXCELLENT. Probably the author meant that the main financing on the backbone is in terms of using momentum as railguns and other throwing gizmos. And in some ways the author is right. Initially, powerful explosive capacitors were used for electromagnetic guns and for electromagnetic wave weapons. Those. the elemental base is equal.
  8. sled beach
    +2
    30 September 2014 11: 23
    "Apart from surrendering and giving the advancing units of the Russian army heavy weapons as trophies, there are essentially no options left." And that hollow metal objects, such as a tank, are no longer shielded from electromagnetic radiation? Probably lagging behind progress, he is fast, damn this progress!
    1. tkhonov66
      0
      30 September 2014 16: 57
      "...
      And what about hollow metal objects, such as a tank, no longer shield from electromagnetic radiation?
      ..."
      .
      - screen-screen ...
      But they screen only that - that is located INSIDE the "hollow metal objects" ... And if you want to receive or transfer something from the "hollow metal object" - you need to STAND OUT from this object. And you MUST go through this potentially dangerous procedure - for the very reason that "hollow metal objects, such as a tank, are SHIELDED from electromagnetic radiation" ...
      8-))
      .
      "...
      Probably lagging behind progress, fast hell this progress!
      ..."
      - You are behind logic ...
      8-))
  9. +1
    30 September 2014 11: 23
    finally made EM ammunition. I have been waiting for something like this for a long time.
    1. sled beach
      0
      30 September 2014 11: 31
      It remains to create the Sith sword and you can search for aliens for the inter galactic war.
    2. +1
      30 September 2014 12: 45
      Quote: Dimka off
      made em ammunition


      http://vrtp.ru/index.php?act=categories&CODE=article&article=3198
    3. tkhonov66
      0
      30 September 2014 16: 58
      "...
      finally made EM ammunition. I have been waiting for something like this for a long time.
      ..."
      .
      - Yes, a long time ago it was already made ...
      “But why do you need it?”
      1. 0
        1 October 2014 18: 33
        Quote: tkhonov66
        “But why do you need it?”

        I personally do not need at all. But for the troops - that’s it. Make the ammunition more powerful and go to the AUG - throw it off - and take the whole group warm. So it is with the ground forces.
  10. +1
    30 September 2014 11: 36
    To protect against EMP, on all military equipment they put cases with screens (usually a conductive grid with different thicknesses or foil) and grounding.

    Knapsack-E is certainly a good thing, but it looks more like populism, because a dubious undertaking, unlike even the same Excalibur laser. The Knapsack-E should have direct visibility, a minimum of obstacles, a slow reload time and danger for its own soldiers, especially to counter it with a generator of weaker waves, which will simply go in the protophase and greatly attenuate its waves by superposition ...
    1. sled beach
      +1
      30 September 2014 12: 02
      Well then, first you will need to study the characteristics of the emitter), as I understand it.
    2. +4
      30 September 2014 12: 14
      To protect against EMP, on all military equipment they put cases with screens (usually a conductive grid with different thicknesses or foil) and grounding.

      Any protection against EMR has its limits. Another thing is that the prodigy described in the article will eat so much energy that in the end something like the Death Star will come out.
      1. tkhonov66
        0
        30 September 2014 17: 19
        "...
        Another thing is that the prodigy described in the article will eat so much energy that in the end something like the Death Star will come out.
        ..."
        .
        companion DOES NOT UNDERSTAND ...
        .
        Well, this is NOT a MICROWAVE ... Nobody sets the task of FIRING the target object. On it you need to "just" break the CONTROL (well, figuratively speaking, do not flatten the entire object "into a cake", but only "cut" the radio wires)
        - It's the same PULSE (!) Device ...
        .
        but it will be a lot of energy to eat.
        but not as much as the "death star" - "microwave" ...
        .
        1. +1
          30 September 2014 17: 55
          Well, this is NOT a MICROWAVE ... Nobody sets the task of FIRING the target object. On it you need to "just" break the CONTROL (well, figuratively speaking, do not flatten the entire object "into a cake", but only "cut" the radio wires)

          Well, actually, the article is about the complete failure of electronic equipment.
          Now, we must take into account the fact that the power of the electromagnetic pulse is "smeared" over the entire frequency range, as well as the fact that military equipment is shielded and filtered from EMP in accordance with certain standards - that is, there is a significant loss of power during interference to the case.
          As a result, it turns out that huge energy is needed to create the required power per unit frequency.
          1. tkhonov66
            0
            1 October 2014 09: 45
            "...
            As a result, it turns out that huge energy is needed to create the required power per unit frequency.
            ..."
            .
            - Your reasoning completely lacks such an essential parameter - as TIME ...
            8-))
            1. 0
              1 October 2014 11: 00
              In your reasoning, there is completely no such essential parameter - as TIME ...
              8-))

              Well, actually it’s clear that the pulse duration is some microseconds. All the same, we are talking about megawatts, if not tens of megawatts.
              1. 0
                1 October 2014 11: 44
                You just provoke a discussion. No one here even summarized that the issues of penetration or protection against electromagnetic radiation are a combination of interference processes. No one even noted that waves are a property of the medium. Their frequency, length, backs are their gradients. Well, time for highly dynamic and hyperdynamic processes cannot be associated with standard measures at all. In such cases, time becomes a set of algorithmic energy events for all vectors of the direction of the development of events. But how can anyone even analyze all these processes if only three static axes of space coordinates are used. Completely not knowing and not understanding the necessity and existence of the fourth axis. But this is a base-foundation, without which it is impossible to move meaningfully forward. It is all the more difficult to understand what energy density is and how it can be mathematically analyzed and, all the more, create real conversion devices.
    3. +1
      30 September 2014 12: 26
      Calling everything by their proper names, the Faraday cage is not so protective. In addition, do not forget about the problem that such an effect of EMR affects itself.
    4. tkhonov66
      0
      30 September 2014 17: 02
      "...
      moreover, to counter it, a generator of weaker waves is enough, which will simply go in the protophase and greatly weaken its waves by superposition
      ..."
      .
      - "just go in the protophase" is a very difficult technical problem.
      8-))
  11. +2
    30 September 2014 12: 09
    our scientists, as I understand it, went along the path of an explosive generator the energy of an explosion in an electromagnetic pulse. Charge as a source of energy. Here is the energy for the roller shutter and you don’t have to drag a nuclear station behind you
    1. +1
      30 September 2014 12: 56
      If we say that your scientists are following the path of a generator operating on an explosive single impulse, then there is a direction of creating a constant action generator. That is, by providing a constant physical process, you can provide the highest density of "energy". Only on the grounds that the source of the process itself is the external environment, and therefore there will be no breakdown as such. This extreme local polarization can not only be stored and moved.
    2. tkhonov66
      0
      30 September 2014 17: 13
      "...
      Here is the energy for the roller shutter and you don’t have to drag a nuclear station behind you
      ..."
      .
      There are a lot of technical problems in implementing all these applications.
      And one of them is the problem of TRANSPORTING large quantities of energy from the place of its generation / storage in the place of its use.
      .
      In an explosive magnetic generator - this problem is solved AUTOMATICALLY, since the energy of the explosion is almost directly converted into the energy of electromagnetic Oscillations (!). But in the railgun - the problem of transporting a DC (!) CURRENT with an acceptable level of THERMAL LOSSES ON ELECTRICAL CONTACTS is a very serious problem.
      .
      - Ie to implement your "rationalization" the energy of the explosive magnetic generator must
      1) RECTIFY and FILTER (turn into direct current) with an acceptable level of LOSS
      2) TRANSFER ON THE "Rails" of the railgun with an acceptable level of LOSS
      8-))
      .
      And how do you solve these complex technical problems?
      - in my opinion - so simple NO way ...
      8-)))
  12. +1
    30 September 2014 12: 19
    If such an impulse hits in a radius of 30 km, then how to protect your own equipment?
    1. +2
      30 September 2014 12: 31
      In fact of the matter . Remember Ufimtsev. "When creating a weapon, create and a means against" it. Therefore, everything will become real then. when there is every reason to justify physical processes with science. And there is none.
    2. +2
      30 September 2014 12: 57
      you just need to know in advance to turn off the radar, cover it with a steel network and ground it (steel network) That's the whole procedure, no one says that until you are blind they will not be bombarded with conventional weapons.
  13. 0
    30 September 2014 12: 26
    In addition to surrendering and giving the arming units of the Russian army heavy weapons as trophies, there are essentially no options left.

    How so. The bourgeoisie as the batteries run out or the tanning beds run out they immediately surrender. Wunderwafer damn it. fool
    1. +3
      30 September 2014 12: 49
      The first documented fact of the use of this weapon, which in various sources today is called either the "electronic bomb" or the "electromagnetic bomb", was recorded back in the 50s of the last century. Then, because of a high-altitude nuclear explosion, street lighting in Hawaii was turned off, radio navigation systems in Australia went out of order, and radio communications in many other regions of the world were broken. After studying the causes of the incident, it was concluded that the bomb explosion, in addition to instant physical results, acted on electromagnetic fields at a great distance.
      Specialists immediately seized on this seemingly side effect of a nuclear explosion and conducted research on the creation of a nuclear electron bomb. It was even estimated that the electromagnetic pulse caused by the explosion of a nuclear charge with a capacity of one megaton at an altitude of 200 kilometers above the geographical center of the United States, can damage electronics from the Gulf of Mexico to Canada. At the same time, restoration of electric networks will take several months.
      The same effect but without a nuclear explosion
  14. sled beach
    +4
    30 September 2014 12: 31
    "-Vanka was killed by electricity!
    - What is it like?
    -Yes, I unloaded the batteries, one fell on his head "
  15. +2
    30 September 2014 13: 04
    All methods of protection against EMP have long been known, but the trick is that no one will report on their readiness to apply it. One threat of using such weapons will force the enemy to either not turn on the equipment or use it in isolation, i.e. Do not use either antennas or any external cables, but what is the use then? So it turns out, with our backlog in electronics, we completely level out their advantages.
    1. +1
      30 September 2014 13: 14
      You are like Cook's law. We have all means of protection against what was previously thought up as a weapon. Any generator email. working not only within the framework of those parameters that a person has defined as exhaustive knowledge of email. magnetic processes will produce parameters that will exclude the possibility of knowing about their dangerous sides.
      1. +2
        30 September 2014 13: 18
        one of the side effects of a vigorous explosion is precisely EMR
        1. +2
          30 September 2014 13: 27
          If we consider a nuclear explosion from start to finish as email. magnetic process, and not littered with various chem. physical theories, it becomes quite obvious that all the properties of this nuclear explosion can be easily reproduced at any level and very easier than the well-known and uncontrolled process.
          1. tkhonov66
            0
            30 September 2014 17: 23
            "...
            If we consider a nuclear explosion from start to finish as email. magnetic process, and not littered with various chem. physical theories
            ..."
            .
            Electromagnetism is THIS physical theory ...
            .
            Truly - the right hand does not know - what is the left doing? ...
            8-))
      2. tkhonov66
        0
        1 October 2014 09: 53
        "...
        You are like Cook's law.
        ..."
        .
        What kind of cook is this?
        Really the one that the "aborigines ate"?
        8-))
        .
        But there is, however, another assumption,
        That Cook was eaten out of great respect.
        That the sorcerer incited everyone - a sly and evil man:
        - Atu guys! grab the cook!

        Who will eat it without salt and without onions,
        He will be strong, courageous, kind, like Cook! -
        Someone’s arm caught a stone -
        Threw, the viper, and no Cook.
        8-)))
  16. zavesa01
    +3
    30 September 2014 13: 26
    Metal ships cannot sail !!!
    The earth is flat !!!
    Devices heavier than air cannot fly !!!
    For a personal computer, there is enough memory at 250 MB !!!
    And how many more "smart" statements were.

    Work. And god bless you !!!!

    Quote: professor
    The bourgeoisie as the batteries run out or the solyra will end they immediately surrender.

    And not only among the bourgeois. YOU are an intelligent person. Remember how in the Second World War, Soviet tankers threw the equipment as there was no solarium.
    1. 0
      30 September 2014 15: 46
      Quote: zavesa01
      And not only among the bourgeois. YOU are an intelligent person. Remember how in the Second World War, Soviet tankers threw the equipment as there was no solarium.

      ... and surrendered for this reason?
      1. zavesa01
        0
        30 September 2014 16: 35
        I mean, it’s possible and NOT a child prodigy.
        And there are a lot of reasons for getting captured.
  17. ABV
    +1
    30 September 2014 15: 09
    Well then what is going on in VO ??? !!! Moderators AUUU !!!

    The article, of course, is interesting. But why did she (and many others lately) end up in the VO having plowed through the expanses of a dozen sites during the previous week. Can it be more efficient like that?
  18. +1
    30 September 2014 15: 35
    Oh, those terrible synchrophasotrons, damn it ... how star wars will soon be ..
    1. zavesa01
      +1
      30 September 2014 16: 37
      I feel I live in the 21st century !!!!
      1. tkhonov66
        0
        30 September 2014 17: 25
        It seems that you are not feeling enough ...
        8-)
  19. Greendragon1864
    +1
    30 September 2014 18: 19
    such a weapon is very effective at a time when each nut runs on a battery. Therefore, I conclude that our scientists are going in the right direction
  20. +1
    30 September 2014 20: 45
    yes, if the facey beeches on Instagram and other crap disappear, this will greatly demoralize the "light elves" where do they show their chikin, all the meaning of their service will be lost
  21. 0
    30 September 2014 22: 57
    Nefiga did not understand, but was glad and proud. fellow
    1. +1
      30 September 2014 23: 11
      This is normal! At first, a person feels with intuition, that is, with consciousness, and only then with a mind-ability. The main thing is that we all do one BIG CASE. We are Slavs in its best quality, brilliant and talented. And only together and each in our place should we take pride in the fact that we are part of a great nation. Personally, I am always happy that I am part of a great team of inventors and scientists and part of our GREAT PEOPLE. And let someone reproach me with pathos. No need to be afraid of beautiful expressions and pride in the homeland and pathos in the sincerity of the relationship.
  22. 0
    1 October 2014 09: 04
    Quote: gridasov
    This is normal! At first, a person feels with intuition, that is, with consciousness, and only then with a mind-ability.

    Live and learn. I want to understand, first feelings intuition i.e. consciousness, connect the mind ...
    No, this is not given to me ..
    This is beyond my feelings and abilities.
    I am reverently silent .. what
    1. tkhonov66
      0
      1 October 2014 09: 48
      he said this not in the interests of truth, but in the interests of truth ...
      8-)))
    2. +1
      1 October 2014 10: 36
      I dare not remain silent! Absolutely all people are capable of developing abilities in themselves. Start simple. Will explain. There is a small period between sleep and the awakening phase when you have not yet woken up and have not opened your eyes, and not a single thought from worldly life is at work. But at this moment there is no longer a dream, but not yet reasoning. These are the moments of the work of consciousness. Not the mind, but precisely that part of the brain that works in a pure form of analysis, without any subjectivity. They can be memorized and written down. So the periods of life - any thought is preceded by a pre-thought. You just need to learn to "catch" them and listen. There are many such exercises. They work ina for generalization, and for differentiation of the concentration of the brain. There are exercises on how to turn off the work of the brain in moments of overload from information flows, etc.
  23. 0
    2 October 2014 18: 23
    From the article
    Today, our “Alabuga”, having exploded at an altitude of 200-300 meters, is able to turn off all electronic equipment within a radius of 3,5 km and leave a military unit of the scale of a battalion / regiment without means of communication, control, or firing, while turning all available enemy equipment into a pile of useless scrap metal. In addition to surrender and give to the advancing units of the Russian army heavy weapons as trophies, options, in fact, do not remain.

    Regular capscapidones ... mitt
  24. 0
    3 November 2014 16: 55
    Excellent article, rejoiced for the native army and those who equip it.
  25. 0
    22 May 2021 00: 20
    Fiction! Divorce MO for grandmother? Lysenkovschina?