John Walter Christie and his tanks


In the process of knowing the wonderful tank world, I met regularly, and I meet with the opinion that, they say, that's all tank schools are good, besides American. And their layout is not the same, and there is no survivability, and patency only on highways is good, and indeed tanks are not very good. Perhaps the echoes of the Cold War have crept in here, or maybe the patriotic position does not allow us to properly assess the successes of others. There is, of course, some truth to it, one cannot call American armored vehicles the pinnacle of design thought, but this very thought also had its own heroes. So, for example, one can’t ignore the worthy engineer of his time, a native of the United States - John Walter Christie. And although the path chosen by Mr. Christie turned out to be wrong, many of his interim decisions and ideas had a strong influence on the tank-building world.

John Walter Christie and his tanks

Walter was born in 1865 year, in a farm family living in the town of River Edge, New Jersey. Not very impressed with the romance of black soil and quarreling about it with his father, a young guy at the age of 16-years, tears his claws to New York, where he hires a simple worker at the plant of the De-Lamater Iron Works company. The boss of the guy notices, and career growth does not keep himself waiting. Realizing that new ideas and thoughts are difficult to communicate to others without a proper education, Christie enters the free evening courses of the Cooper Union organization. Study-work, work-study, and now, by the age of 1887, at 22, Mr. Walter becomes the leading consulting engineer of a large shipyard and is already profiting from several of his patents. The general specifics of his activities over the next ten years are now called “non-standard equipment design engineer”. He designed literally everything, from factories and steamboats to in-house plumbing. In 1897, he marries, after another three years he ceases to work “for his uncle” and opens his own business, at about the same time he is fond of auto racing.

Christie's first significant development - piston seal

Sport literally draws Christie into its depths. The thirty-five-year-old man, as a child, rushes to the opportunity to compete with other equally enthusiastic comrades. Then the world was more open and close to man, so racing race cars had to be designed independently, which, however, was not particularly difficult for a talented designer. The first car is a front-wheel drive with a 30-ti strong engine. The power of the following - is growing steadily, as well as speed. Already the third sports car design Walter holds under the hood 120 horses and can accelerate to 160 km / h. In the courtyard 1904 lazily passed the year. One of the most interesting technical solutions of an engineer is the use of front-engine cars with transverse engines and a direct drive system. The power was removed directly from the crankshaft and transferred to the wheels through the clutch. In order to clearly understand and appreciate the whole “goodness” of such an approach, it is worth paying attention to the T-72 tank's engine and transmission group; in it, too, the transverse engine gives power from both main journals to the onboard gearboxes. That is, its roots in such a scheme leads to John Christie.

Well, these are not cars - these are songs!

Continuing to successfully win prizes, Walter is constantly improving their cars, but with increasing speeds and increasing risks. In one of the races, Christie nearly killed “the very one” Vincenzo Lancia, and in 1907, he himself crashed heavily. In 1910, the design racing career ended, and his nephew Louis continued to chase, delighting his uncle with new successes. Christie, from then until his death, is exclusively a design engineer, albeit with an adventurous vein.

There was a lot of money to race, and his nephew got the pleasure of “chasing”, so the engineer’s further journey takes him into the wilds of fire service problems from switching to horse-drawn traction. Restless talent back in 1908 year invented a motorized monoaxial front, so instead of buying a full-fledged car, you could simply replace the front axle of the wagon with a new one with an engine. The firefighters liked the idea, the work began to boil, the heavy cargo front began to bring profit, and in the meantime, between the lines, the thought flashes that it was a prototype of the modular layout of the equipment.

Front separately, cart separately

With the start of the First World War, John Walter Christie takes his first steps in the development of military equipment, reasonably expecting from this field much larger profits than from civilian orders. The first car “for the front” was a heavy cargo platform, released in the 1915 year on the basis of the notorious motorized front end with an attached cart. And although the equipment with honor withstood all the proposed tests, the military did not buy a truck, because it was needed - all-wheel drive. Although due attention was paid and ordered to the master wheel anti-aircraft self-propelled gun. So, at the age of 50, Mr. Christie becomes the designer of combat vehicles.

Until the creation of his first tank, Walter managed to design and test several types of self-propelled guns based on the wheeled-tracked chassis he had invented. For some time, work on the self-propelled guns and tanks even went at the same time, but, ultimately, the tanks seemed more interesting to the designer in the world military stories Christie is known more as a tank builder. The most interesting engineering solution in the self-propelled was the use of a wheeled-tracked chassis, the idea of ​​which then just soared in the air, but most other inventors offered semi-tracked variants, and only an American brought the design to a logical absolute.

Christie M1919 / M1921

The results of the First World War clearly showed the possibilities and relevance of such a weapon as a tank. All sufficiently technologically developed countries of the world literally embraced tank euphoria. Hundreds of different projects flew to the tables of the military departments and offices. These were marvelous times of trial and error: the formation of world tank schools.

According to the findings of the special post-war commission in the USA, it was recognized that it was necessary to include in the tank forces not only heavy and light tanks, but also medium tanks. At the same time, the reports specifically mentioned very frequent armored vehicles going out on the marches. And it was not only a “weak” track, but also an increased load when driving on it to the engine and transmission elements. That is why they decided to turn to Christie, who already had a wheeled tracked chassis. 22 November 1919 of the year Walter receives a military order for the manufacture of a tank weighing up to 18 tons, specific power 10 hp / t, speed not less than 19 km / h and a range of about 100 km. Protection provided anti-bullet, the front part had to hold a bullet 12,7 mm.

After reworking an existing chassis, Christie received a rather interesting three-knuckle design. Features mixed course did not allow to raise the front roller from the ground, because it was also the steering wheel, but the low chassis significantly reduced the permeability of the car, and especially its ability to overcome vertical obstacles. The designer found the solution to be quite original - if necessary, the central rink lifted the tank above the ground and the throughput increased. Power was taken from the engine through a set of gears. The engine was also a personal development of the designer and gave out 120 hp. He turned the tank by turning off one of the side clutches. Not slowing down, but simply turning off, which caused insufficient controllability, while driving on a wheeled track, the rear driving wheel pair did not have a differential, filling up its drawbacks to questions of maneuverability.

The layout of the machine itself was made according to the classic scheme that subsequently became. The rear transverse engine, the placement of weapons in a rotating turret and "rational" angles of the frontal sheet, the thickness of which was impressive at that time - 25mm (board - 13mm). The main weapons the 57mm gun with a twin machine gun was assumed, the second machine gun was located in the commander's turret. The crew of the new tank consisted of three people.

After reviewing the details of the project, the military criticized the car. All three skating rinks were unsprung, only rubber bandage performed the depreciation. About the smoothness of the course with this approach and there could be no question. Thoroughly having quarreled with customers, Christi nevertheless yielded, and the next variation of the tank had double track rollers in the middle, connected in a self-sorted cart. This car was named the Christie tank model of 1919, although its first demonstration took place in the 1921 year. And again a squall of criticism, the lack of technological hatches in the reservation did not allow for field repairs, and in a close fighting compartment three people could hardly accommodate, and they were not enough for normal combat interaction. The tank came out shaky and very stuffy. Ventilation with tightly riveted body was also not so hot. Development had certain prospects, all identified deficiencies were solved, therefore Christie on her own initiative removes it from state tests for revision.

The second model. Instead of a large central rink - twin small

The new tank received the designation M1921 and was, in fact, a new machine. Instead of the tower - armored wheelhouse, more spacious, which allowed to place four. But the tank turned into a self-propelled gun, although at that time there was no such thing. The central rollers were enlarged, and the trolley was reconstructed, the front steering wheel was suspended, and the front-lift mechanism was dismantled. Due to the shift of the center of mass, the frontal armor had to be reduced to 19 mm. Yet, yet again, criticism followed. Weak patency and insufficient power, and most importantly, low reliability put an end to the first Christie tank. 10 July 1924, the car was sent to the museum, and the financing of the designer’s ideas from the state budget was stopped. For the sake of justice, I must say that the other medium tanks that participated in the program have not passed, and in the future the United States did not make any attempts to create such a class of vehicles for a long time.


1924 year ended for Christie very hard. Having squandered all his cash savings, being seriously stranded, he also got jaundice to top it all. For five years, restless designer was invented and built a huge number of different military vehicles: heavy artillery tractor, a series of half-track trucks, self-propelled 3-x and 4,7-inch anti-aircraft guns, 75mm, 105mm, 155mm and 203mm artillery self-propelled guns, a number of floating artillery (!) platforms and of course tanks. All work was carried out at a small production site, Walter took part in all the trials personally and constantly refined his cars, so that almost all of them were significantly upgraded. But the fruits of this incredible capacity for work has brought little. Of all the above magnificence, the military bought only 15 of different machines. These were mostly prototypes that did not receive further development.

Self-propelled amphibian M1923

Christie M1927

The financial crisis forced Christie in 1925 to sell blueprints of their newest amphibians to the Japanese for 25 thousand USD. Clearly understanding that he supports the geopolitical adversary of the United States, the designer simply had no other choice. This and the success of semi-tracked trucks in the commercial field allows you to somehow get on your feet. So much so that in the same year, when he heard about the Polish competition for "the best tank in the world," again headlong into military development. The project is named Christie tank M1927. It is based on two previous designs. This is primarily the body of the M1921, that is, the designer does not return to the tower layout, but the suspension was borrowed from the floating self-propelled gun M1923, which is sometimes called a tank, but it did not have armor according to the weight limits. , because the tank was not even close.

The layout of the model was somewhat imperfect, since in the frontal compartment, the gunner and gunner were moving with machine guns, and the driver was peacefully side by side with the commander. The driver's review was clearly not up to par, and the co-ordination of the shooter’s actions causes questions. But the suspension finally gained smoothness. All rollers were springs with the exception of the rear leading. With the engine of obscurity, what brand and how many cylinders should have been, but all sources agree that the planned power is 110l.s. Probably Christie wanted to put again his engine from previous models, just forced. But the power reserve in 300 km should have pleased the customer.

All the work done was ultimately useless. When in May 1927 of the year, Walter sent sketches of his miracle machine, it turned out that the competition was over for more than a year. And although the Poles did not like the ideas of the money, they did not even officially consider the proposal of the new tank. True, later, they actively used these developments, simply stolen from Christie.

М1927 was embodied only in the form of a wooden model, not a single sample in the metal was built.

Christie M1928 / M1931

Perhaps the most significant machine designer. This is the same ancestor BT-2. It all began ... No, just madness of the brave, we sing a song. Our hero is still a very stubborn uncle and failure with the Poles did not stop him.

He began by refining the chassis again. For the first time, the famous “Christie suspension” appears on the arena. The basis was still the same chetyrehkatkovy system with twin rubberized wheels, only now each roller through the yoke was connected to a powerful spring. The spring itself was hidden inside the case. The length of the suspension was chosen so that the tank could literally fall on the belly. The rear drive sprocket is raised, and on the wheel, the thrust is transmitted to the rearmost rear roller via a chain. To improve the cross-country ability, the front raised sloth was added to the undercarriage. Actually, that's all. The hull remained classic for Walter's inventions - straight sides, bowed wedge-shaped nose, and again all this stuff without a tower. But no, there was a zest - the engine was a V-shaped Liberty L-12 with as much power as 340 hp. Seeing racing past strongly prevailed over the thoughts of the designer. The armament was invented by the residual principle and consisted of only two Browning 7,62mm machine guns, one of which was placed in the front sheet, and the second on top of the hull.

Scheme of work Christie suspension

They called this thing the M1928 and the very first tests showed the tremendous speed of the car. 120 km / h on a wheel and 67km / h on a track. It is a pity that Nascar was not there then. The military, as always, rolled out a bunch of claims, it must be admitted that it was not unreasonable. Basically, it was a repetition of past mistakes: small space, thin armor, weak weaponry. However, cavalrymen liked it and, according to the test results, the 22 of August 1929 of the year was recommended to be taken into service, naturally, after correcting the flaws.


The updated machine, which received the designation М1931, was made by 1931 for the year. The hull remained virtually unchanged (only the thickness of the forehead armor increased from 13 to 19mm and do not care about cramping), but a single turret with a 37 mm gun appeared. Chassis is also not fundamentally changed. Walter as always spat on the opinion of warriors, and it turned out the same thing, only with the tower. In January, the new car went to the state tests, which again took place. The designer had been trading for a long time and, by the year of 1932, he finally received an order for 7 tanks, which received the designation Medium T1. Three "boxes" went to the infantry, they were called Medium Tank T3, and four received cavalry already called Combat Car T1, since the cavalrymen relied only on armored vehicles, had to go to the trick and take full-fledged tanks as armored vehicles.


In addition to the native army, a number of other countries became interested in new machines. The same Poland, which, then was in the creative quest, sent to the US a certain captain Marian Rusyn. The captain felt the M1928 with pens, looked at the M1931 drawings, and approved the technique. Already at the end of February 1930, Christie received an order from the pany for manufacturing the M1928 probe for testing. According to the results of these very tests, a purchase of a license could well have taken place, but ... After a couple of months, the Americans returned the money without explanation. Ears stuck out of the Soviet Union, he also became interested, and agreements with the councils promised to become much more profitable. The Poles did not lose their head and, in the best traditions of modern China, by the 1937 year they did 10TP to themselves, in full growth using the practices of Walter.

Contrary to popular belief, the Soviet delegates who presented a new car did not immediately try to tear it off with their arms and legs. The high-speed, but extremely low-armored and low-armed vehicle simply did not fit into the concept of the formation of armored forces of the USSR. However, after much deliberation and testing, it was decided to purchase several samples, and most importantly - machine drawings. Already directly on the territory of the Union, the test results revealed a lot of design flaws, which, in general, was typical of Christie’s cars. Nobody wanted to go to the camps, and the money was spent. The tank was recommended for production, however, provided that the project was deeply modernized - this is how BT-2 was born. The “BT” index instead of the traditional one-letter “T” for the councils appeared just the same because the machine did not meet the requirements of the tank-tractor auto-armor system.

Upgraded M1931 - T3EX1

The last customer of this undoubtedly iconic tank was the army of Britain. And, surprisingly, impressed by the Soviet BT-5, which was clearly better than its prototype. In October, the British asked 1936 to sell a sample that had been left in stock. Christie willingly agreed to bypass the new ban on the sale of modern weapons in the USA, and fused the Brit to disassemble a tank as a batch of oranges. This machine was the ancestor of the cruiser tank Mk III. The designer himself at that time had long been engaged in his new ideas.

Christie M1932

The success of the previous model inspired the maestro to develop a new, phenomenal notion. This time the tank became her usual, flying. 9 remained for years to bring to the mind the same idea in the country of councils, and the designer himself turned 1932 in 67.

Taking the M1931 as a basis, Christie made it as easy as possible by actually sacrificing reservations. Also from the innovations - duralumin rollers, not just wrapped cast rubber, but with installed pneumatic tires. And the engine ... 12-cylinder V-shaped Hispano-Suiza with a herd of 750-h horses. During the tests, a five-ton tank on a wheel at a speed of overclocking to 190 km / h, however, on caterpillars gave "only" sotochku. This thing easily flew over a six-meter ditch, the benefit of the huge suspension travels made it almost painless. Armament was located in the front hull sheet, the tower was absent.

Initially, it was planned to transport the car on the external bomber hangers, but it was not excluded, moreover, even a scheme with its own wings and a propeller was developed. In his old age, John Walter Christie became an aircraft designer. The division of the military was not interested, because the creator asked for a lot of money for it. According to rumors, an experimental copy went to the USSR, where he disappeared without a trace in the furnace of the forge of communism.

Christie M1935 / M1936

Having practiced in the creation of armored vehicles in 1933, John Christie returns to the tank theme again. Around this time, he receives money from the army for the revision of the M1931 - T3 modification. It is from these finances that the necessary funds are made, and the M1935A appears in the arena, as a concept of an airborne tracked vehicle. The layout was carried out according to the reckless design standard for the designer, the crew consisted of only two people, and the booking thickness was no more than 13 mm, and there were only three support rollers. The army did not approve of the idea, it can be said almost did not notice, probably tired of Christie's jumpers. Our resilient comrade did not stop and immediately issued a new car to the mountain - М1935В, in which he added another roller, but otherwise the improvements were minimal. And again, "past the box office." The third attempt, already under the marking M1936, also did not inspire the potential buyer. Of the features of this latest version, it is necessary to single out the suspension removed from the reserve room, which made it possible to abandon double sides, but significantly increased the vulnerability of the suspension elements. Armament of all modifications Walter planned to place in the front hull sheet, and it varied from 57 to 75 mm guns. However, in all cases, limited to the installation of mass-dimensional layout. In the future, the designer did not depart from the concept of airborne technology, but the uncompromising and authoritarian approach naturally led to the fact that sensible ideas themselves were rapidly falling into nowhere.

M1935 ...

... and B

Christie M1937 / M1938

In general, it is rather difficult to write about the latest models of Christie’s tanks. They did not differ much in variety, and the engineer’s creative vein was growing more and more stiff. Despite the apparent disinterest of the army in previous machines, the designer was still confident that it was his path that was right, and all the others simply did not understand anything about military technology. Therefore, the 1937 machine of the year was not significantly different from its predecessors. Unless the case was slightly reworked, the head-on booking increased (the data is walking somewhere around 15 mm), and they didn’t even remember about the weapons, the layout that had already become traditional was not installed. The army also traditionally ignored Christie’s proposal. Suddenly, the British are interested. Impressed with the BT-5 on the large Kiev maneuvers, they invited Walter to participate in the development of their cruiser tank Cruiser Tank Mk.III (A13), after purchasing the stale Christie M1931. The engineer agreed to help, as there was a catastrophic shortage of money, but by 1938 a new prototype had been issued. This time the positioning has changed, now the plans included the installation of a powerful gun in the frontal list, and the car threatened to become an airborne anti-tank self-propelled gun. Of the interesting things worth noting is the use of light alloys wherever possible: in the elements of the gearbox, fuel tanks and several other nodes, which allowed again slightly thicken the front sheet and reduce weight. Further development of the prototype stage has not progressed.



Christie M1940 / M1942

Latest design constructor. The age of seventy is no joke. The machine is essentially no different from its predecessors. Is that Christie finally deigned to meet the critics and increased the amount of space reserved by installing an armored cabin on the body in which, according to various sources, it was planned to install from 37 mm small to 90 mm recoilless gun.


In 1944, the long and eventful life of a talented designer, whose ideas were largely ahead of time, ended. And even if many of his undertakings were destroyed, his own “obsession” and short-sightedness, but without a doubt, the engineering genius of this person literally dictated the conditions and directions of work for many tank schools of the world. And if the next time you think that the Americans did not come up with anything sensible in the tanks, then remember the good old Uncle from New Jersey - John Walter Christie.

Sources used:
K. Romasev, V. But "The First Wheeled-Tracked Military Vehicles of John Walter Christie"
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  1. +17
    26 September 2014 09: 52
    Thank you! Yes The article is super! good
    1. +5
      26 September 2014 19: 29
      ..... all the “goodies” of this approach is worth paying attention to the T-72 tank’s motor-transmission group, in which the transverse engine also gives power from both main journals to the final drives.

      This is what T-64 has done. And at T-72, the torque from the engine to the box is transmitted through an intermediate gearbox (guitar)

      The article is definitely "plus" (a lot of cognitive)
      1. +3
        27 September 2014 14: 30
        Damn, I specifically googled this question and still "blurted out", well, nothing, you've corrected it here.
      2. +4
        28 September 2014 16: 13
        Quote: Bad_gr
        This is what T-64 has done. And at T-72, the torque from the engine to the box is transmitted through an intermediate gearbox (guitar)

        Greetings, Vladimir.

        Yeah, I also noticed that they forgot about the guitar on the T-72 ...

        And the article is super.
        Thanks a lot to the author for the high-quality and informative material.
        Excellent written.
        It is read with pleasure.
  2. Alexander
    26 September 2014 10: 02
    And still I will say that the Americans did not come up with anything sensible in tanks. Christie set a whole dead end in the development of tank building in the world. World War II dotted all i
    1. +4
      26 September 2014 10: 11
      Christie had a lot of interesting ideas, but he couldn’t compose normally. to install thicker armor, more powerful dvig, a tower - normal tanks would be.
      1. +2
        26 September 2014 11: 25
        Add a couple of tons of armor, a more powerful and heavier engine, a tower - and this would no longer be such a fast and outstanding tank as it is being advertised to us now. And his tanks were close, including due to the fact that the spring shafts took up a lot of space.
        1. +2
          26 September 2014 11: 43
          More powerful engine - maintaining the ratio of horses per ton. The result - BT-7M. The machine is quite interesting, powerful gun, good bulletproof armor, mobility - can be considered the prototype of modern infantry fighting vehicles.
          1. Alf
            26 September 2014 18: 17
            Quote: Forest
            More powerful engine - maintaining the ratio of horses per ton. The result - BT-7M. The machine is quite interesting, powerful gun, good bulletproof armor, mobility - can be considered the prototype of modern infantry fighting vehicles.

            The prototype of modern BMP BT-7 is categorically impossible.
            BMP-vehicle for transporting infantry, BT-5,7-classic light tanks.
            1. 0
              26 September 2014 18: 18
              In 41-42, the remaining BT, T-60 and T-70 were used exactly as BMPs - infantry support, quick raids on the enemy.
              1. Alf
                27 September 2014 18: 00
                Quote: Forest
                In 41-42, the remaining BT, T-60 and T-70 were used exactly as BMPs - infantry support, quick raids on the enemy.

                Infantry support and infantry transport are completely different things.
                1. DimaChorny
                  3 October 2014 23: 16
                  you know, the Soviets (infantry) used tanks as a tram - they just got on the armor. Why not transportation?
          2. +1
            2 October 2014 00: 51
            The main thing is that BT family tanks, which grew out of Christie, became the basis for the T-34. Anyway. Even the creators of the T-80 can be called the heirs of Christie's ideas in terms of his manic obsession with high speeds. wink
          3. +3
            6 October 2014 17: 52
            Quote: Forest
            The result - BT-7M.

            BT-5,7 and Christie's prototype are interconnected like heaven and earth. Having common roots, BTshki is a product of serious and radical processing by Soviet designers, who managed to make it a full-fledged fighting vehicle of its class.
    2. +6
      26 September 2014 10: 33
      Quote: alexandr
      And still I will say that the Americans did not come up with anything sensible in tanks. Christie set a whole dead end in the development of tank building in the world. World War II dotted all i

      I don’t agree about the dead end direction - the epoch-making t 34 took a lot from Christie's tanks. And BT for its time was a super car. It’s just that in the USSR in those days a more progressive tank development system was already used, design bureaus turned out to be more effective than the inventor of a loner who could not bring his very interesting ideas to mind.
      1. +2
        26 September 2014 11: 28
        I don’t agree about the dead end direction - the epoch-making t 34 took a lot from Christie's tanks. And BT for its time was a super car.

        That "very much" took the T-34 from Christie's tanks, let me ask you?
        Traffic caterpillars and wheels? A tower?
        What I took was cramped space.
        1. +4
          26 September 2014 11: 41
          Layout, chassis, inclined armor. The 34th was originally built in general in two versions: a wheel-tracked strictly according to Christie's scheme and a purely tracked one which went into production.
        2. avt
          26 September 2014 15: 01
          Quote: lilian
          That "very much" took the T-34 from Christie's tanks, let me ask you?

          The smallest thing is the suspension. laughing
          1. +1
            26 September 2014 23: 51
            In my opinion, it is imperative to add the layout, as noted in the comment above (i.e. the engine and transmission at the rear), thus the cardan was thrown out of the tank and the base of the rotating turret was lowered to the floor. This is quite significant in my opinion. It is enough to compare the characteristics of the Tiger and the IS series tanks. You can talk a lot and for a long time on this topic, I'm not a tanker and if the forum users who are well versed in this issue add, I will be glad to read their opinion.
      2. +1
        26 September 2014 20: 26
        I agree. But we must bear in mind that the best tank of World War II, all the same, was built on the principles of Christie
    3. +3
      26 September 2014 13: 48
      Quote: alexandr
      And still I will say that the Americans did not come up with anything sensible in tanks. Christie set a whole dead end in the development of tank building in the world. World War II dotted all i

      I do not agree ...
      The suspension developed by Christie is still used in tank building, for example in the Merkava tank. It is clearly visible on the chassis of the ACS "Sholef", made on the chassis "Merkava"
    4. +1
      29 September 2014 14: 48
      wrong. Christie was the first to try to solve the issue of tank maneuverability, range and speed. All that T34 then so clearly demonstrated in comparison with tigers and panthers.
  3. avt
    26 September 2014 10: 04
    Yes! A good review about the designer, whose ideas were massively embodied in the USSR in metal.
  4. +6
    26 September 2014 10: 29
    Very cool .. Cool article .. Thanks!
  5. +2
    26 September 2014 11: 06
    We must pay tribute to the engineering genius of Christie! Yes, and all the engineers of the 19-20 centuries, who drew everything behind the Kuhlmanns and calculated everything on a slide rule. They would, with their faith in the triumph of progress, but computers in their hands. We must not forget the workers who embodied all these plans - some with a wheelbarrow, some with a Kyle, some with a pedal-operated machine. And here after all - miracles of engineering of that era, embodied in metal, wood and concrete, are standing around the world.
  6. +2
    26 September 2014 11: 07
    The American tank building school is interesting, but IMHO these are coffins. Well, what's the use of speed if everything else is very bad.
  7. +1
    26 September 2014 11: 21
    In fact, in addition to the soft suspension, which by the 40th year was no longer relevant, nothing came up. The suspension was soft, but compared to the torsion bar, it took up a lot of space and was vulnerable. Christie’s suspension was inherited by Christie, they tried to get rid of it on the T-34, but the war did not allow it to be done.
    1. Alf
      26 September 2014 18: 20
      Quote: lilian
      Christie’s suspension was inherited by Christie, they tried to get rid of it on the T-34, but the war did not allow it to be done.

      On the T-44 there was a torsion bar suspension and with it he went into the series. During the years 1944-45 T-44 was released 905 pcs.
      You apparently mean the T-34M.
  8. +5
    26 September 2014 11: 28
    article class good .. in one breath read Yes

    and Christie’s suspension in the 21st century, works on Mk-1,2,3,4 tanks, in Israel ... and almost unchanged from the 20s-30s of the XX century !!!
  9. +3
    26 September 2014 11: 28
    The article is a definite plus!
    Thanks to the author!
    Well, the presentation style is just BRAVO! good
  10. +3
    26 September 2014 11: 29
    Quote: MooH
    Quote: alexandr
    And still I will say that the Americans did not come up with anything sensible in tanks. Christie set a whole dead end in the development of tank building in the world. World War II dotted all i

    I don’t agree about the dead end direction - the epoch-making 34 took a lot from Christie’s tanks. Yes, and BT for its time was a super car

    T-34 from the tank Christie inherited only a candle pendant. Which was by the way the main disadvantage of the tank. If not the only one.
    About BT. In childhood, these were my favorite tanks. He considered them more modern and progressive than the T-26. However, if you drop the admiration for speed and specific power. Then their modernization potential was zero. It’s not for nothing that a small triplex was created on the basis of the T-26, plus several variants of self-propelled guns and even armored personnel carriers, but how many unpaid projects were there .... It is impossible to create a family of vehicles based on BT. As well as upgrading them in terms of increased protection. Alas, the beautiful and effective in newsreels, the BT tank turned out to be a truly dead end branch. Although a flashing star in a brief moment of history during the Japanese conflicts.

    Special thanks to the author for the info on Christie’s cars.
    1. 0
      2 October 2014 10: 14
      In addition to the candle suspension, the T-34 inherited large rollers, high mobility, adjusted for the fact that the T-34 is still a medium tank with projectile armor, an inclined armor that was already used in all projections of the T-34, but which proved to be useful on BT, direct heirs to Christie’s tanks. In my opinion, if BT had stupidly increased their armor by sacrificing speed, they would not have been a much less pleasant surprise for the Germans. BT firepower clearly exceeded that of German tanks, BT’s mobility, even after strengthening the reservation, I think, would not be inferior to them either.
  11. ISKANDER25
    26 September 2014 11: 32
    Hello! Very interesting! I look forward to continuing! THANKS hi
  12. +2
    26 September 2014 11: 48
    "In order to clearly understand and appreciate all the" goodness "of this approach, it is worth paying attention to the engine-transmission group of the T-72 tank, in which the transverse engine also transfers power from both main journals to the final gearboxes."

    In the T-72 dviglo really stands across, but power take-off from only one neck. Do not believe? Open the MTO roof and make sure. And if there is no T-72 at hand - read the source.
  13. +2
    26 September 2014 12: 19
    Interesting article! Thanks to the author!
  14. 0
    26 September 2014 12: 21
    For me - tanks should develop in the direction of maneuverability.
    If someday tanks can strafe during the battle, then it will be a real cool ...
    The best example of a strafe tank at the moment is the Type 32 Nekomata Troops (PAK) from the Battlefield 2142 game.
  15. +1
    26 September 2014 12: 37
    Models M1938, M1942 look modern. As if making them
    21st century designer.
  16. +1
    26 September 2014 12: 42
    Quote: alexandr
    And still I will say that the Americans did not come up with anything sensible in tanks. Christie set a whole dead end in the development of tank building in the world. World War II dotted all i

    Where is the dead end? T-34 and his descendants come from Christie's ideas. And if you are talking about BT, then it’s not the suspension that’s to blame, but the very principle of these tanks is tremendous speed and anti-shot armor)))

    But the T-26 has nothing to do with Christie, it’s pure Vickers 6-tons.
    1. 0
      26 September 2014 12: 58
      BT was still a drawback - a gasoline engine.
      1. +2
        26 September 2014 14: 11
        Huge flaw. And the same as the whole Wehrmacht technology. In general, the dilemma of gasoline / diesel, however far-fetched, is so ambiguous.
      2. Alf
        26 September 2014 18: 24
        Quote: Mama_Cholli
        BT was still a drawback - a gasoline engine.

        On the BT-7M modification was a V-2 diesel. 788 BT-7M was released.
  17. +1
    26 September 2014 13: 45
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    BT was still a drawback - a gasoline engine.

    All American tanks were gasoline until the end of the war.
    1. 0
      26 September 2014 15: 09
      That's it ... Firstly, cracking of oil - light fractions are more resource-intensive, and secondly, fire hazard.
      Someone will tell me that there are also fire extinguishing systems that can extinguish a tank engine and the tanks of a gasoline-powered tank. Of course there are. But excuse the projectile anyway from which part to fly into the tank. With a "successful" coincidence of circumstances, a situation is quite possible in which the fire extinguishing system will be destroyed first, and only after that the engine itself will burst into flames. The bonfire will be high. The repairs are expensive.
      In addition, the same TIGER T-VI tank consumed about 1 ton per 100 km along the intersection. high-octane (at that time) gasoline.
      1. padonok.71
        26 September 2014 17: 57
        I will add that the Americans perfectly understood the need for a diesel engine but couldn’t do anything - the fleet took the lion's share of diesel engines, to M.O. coast guard. Bosh with their submarines rustled there and the Americans were afraid for their coast.
  18. Danilich
    26 September 2014 13: 53
    At that time, no one knew exactly what the tank should look like and what its goals and objectives are in general! Each designer of this type of equipment went his own way, through trial and error! We now all know what a tank is and how it should look! And at that time the history of tanks and tank building was just beginning hi
  19. +1
    26 September 2014 14: 29
    Quote: alovrov
    Huge flaw. And the same as the whole Wehrmacht technology. In general, the dilemma of gasoline / diesel, however far-fetched, is so ambiguous.

    I completely agree, but the question of diesel or gasoline I see only in the characteristics of the engines themselves. Diesel is more thrusting and gasoline is more than resourceful, and diesel fuel is cheaper to manufacture in relation to gasoline. Virtually all American tanks throughout the Second World War were powered by gasoline engines, but how they burned in books according to the recollections of tankers is not written.
    1. 0
      27 September 2014 00: 57
      Read: author Lohse, the title seems to be "To Berlin in a foreign car."
      1. +2
        6 October 2014 18: 02
        Quote: Sergey TT
        Read: author Lohse, the title seems to be "To Berlin in a foreign car."

        I have the option "Tank driver in a foreign car".
    2. 0
      2 October 2014 10: 26
      The Germans equipped their tanks with gasoline engines not because they could not create a suitable tank diesel, but because almost all the gasoline produced by the Germans was synthetic. Diesel fuel could only be obtained from oil, i.e. almost completely imported raw materials. Because The Germans' oil shortage persisted until the end of the war; their commitment to the use of gasoline engines is understandable and logical.
  20. +3
    26 September 2014 14: 57
    I have long read about Christie's tanks. But he learned so much technology for the first time.
  21. +2
    26 September 2014 14: 59
    Thank you for the article. Besides what is interesting (tank Bartini), there is also a very light pen: "the romance of black soil" and not a bad pun - "and behind him the driver and the commander peacefully coexisted." And by the way, in the author's opinion, is there a roll call between 1932 and the Swede Strv 103 oder 2000? V.Dank
    1. 0
      27 September 2014 14: 42
      There is a roll call, and somewhere in the primary sources I stumbled upon a comparison. Swedes in general in this regard are inventors of the only ones. But their age difference is too big.
  22. 0
    26 September 2014 15: 21
    Who knows ... about the proper use of military property and equipment ...
    ... the nomenclature of German subversive assets includes standardized explosive charges (Sprengpatrone Z), designed for self-destruction of artillery systems.
    Oberleutnant O. Karius writes in his memoirs that he was "very inspired" by the fact that the Sprengpatrone Z.85 blasting cartridge was mounted next to the tank commander's face. He eventually adapted this holder to accommodate a bottle of vodka.
  23. +1
    26 September 2014 16: 56
    There were times, new ideas, tasks ...
    The author of the tank was let down by American arrogance, but there were good ideas.
    normal article.
  24. +1
    26 September 2014 19: 55
    [quote = Aleksander] And still I will say that the Americans did not come up with anything sensible in tanks. Christie set a whole dead end in the development of tank building in the world. World War II dotted all i
    I do not agree! The Amers had no traveling diesel and cannon. BT and T-34-Christie suspension + inclined armor and our B-2 + 76.2 mm - if this is a dead end, BT and T-34 together produced 55 thousand.
  25. Wladimir71
    26 September 2014 20: 31
    The tank is a good thing, but provided that it is refueled, there is a crew, and there is a plan for using it. The future is drones, robots looking for a target, small with fist flying mines and instead of explosive biological aerosol. Although it is difficult to imagine a conflict of the future if now instead of tanks you have debt receipts, gifts and smiles for the right people, tolerance for queers and you can’t convince them that this is a green mushroom.
  26. 0
    29 September 2014 01: 16
    During the Second World War, Americans had both diesel engines and the conversion of gasoline engines to diesel engines. Not in this case.
  27. +1
    30 September 2014 11: 47
    A talented person, an energetic personality, what can I add. hats off to such people hi
  28. 0
    27 November 2016 08: 52
    The division of the military did not interest
    What language is that? Who is the style for? It remains only to write - "you will answer for the market!"

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