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In China, a new combat vehicle

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The Chinese defense industry has a peculiar habit: it rarely publishes information about its new developments. As a result, the first information about the new weapons or techniques appear only some time after their appearance, and in the descriptions there remains a mass of “white spots”. As a result of the emergence of new information about Chinese developments, various leaks often contribute. A few days ago, photos of a new combat vehicle, previously not featured on published photo and video materials, appeared on Chinese websites.

Only five photos of a new combat vehicle, taken, probably, on a telephone or other mobile device, got into the Internet. The photo shows the transportation of the combat vehicle on a tractor with a trailer. Unknown photographer managed to remove the new development only from the front and from the starboard side. Other materials on this machine are not yet available: any details of the project, as well as its name, are unknown. Nevertheless, even published low-quality photos are of great interest to those interested in Chinese armored vehicles.



When considering a new car, the body and the undercarriage are the first to catch the eye. Their appearance directly suggests that the base for the new car was the Type 89 armored personnel carrier, created in the late eighties and under construction by NORINCO. According to some data, currently the Type 89 is considered outdated and does not meet the requirements for modern BTR, which is why it is mainly used as a base for various other types of equipment. Apparently, the new combat vehicle was one of such developments based on a relatively old chassis.

The original armored personnel carrier, which served as the basis for the new combat vehicle, has a combat weight of 14,3 tons, length 6,15 m, width 3,1 m and height 2,6 m. The armored hull of the Type 89 machine protects the crew and units from small arms bullets, including large-caliber and fragments of artillery shells. The BTR is equipped with a German Deutz BF8L 413F diesel engine produced in Germany with 320 horsepower. The maximum speed of the car on the highway is declared at 66 km / h, the power reserve is 500 km. The armament of the Type 89 armored personnel carrier consists of one large-caliber machine gun.

Judging by the photos of the new machine, during the creation of this project, the base chassis has undergone some changes related to the deployment of the combat module. The hull lines remained the same, but the overall length of the machine increased, and a pair of track rollers was added. A number of features of the machine allows you to talk about preserving the layout. Thus, the engine compartment is located in front of the case. Behind it is the office of management with the places of the driver and, possibly, the commander. The view of the photos does not allow to determine the number of hatches in the roof of the department of management. The former troop compartment of the base armored personnel carrier is given under the combat compartment. On the roof of the new combat vehicle is a tower.



Chassis looks similar to the old, but differs from it by the presence of an additional pair of road wheels. In its composition, as is the case with some later modifications of the Type 89 BTR, there are six road wheels, three supporting rollers, a front drive wheel and a rear guide wheel on each side. The distance between the second and third pairs of track rollers is reduced. The photo clearly shows the torsion bar balancers. Any additional shock absorbers are not included in the frame. The design of the undercarriage suggests that, by its mobility characteristics, the new combat vehicle is inferior to the base Type 89 armored personnel carrier. In contrast to the base BTR, the new machine is equipped with a turret, which increases its combat weight and, accordingly, reduces the power density, which affects the characteristics.

The turret of a new Chinese military vehicle is mounted on a shoulder strap in the middle of the hull roof with some shift to the stern. The outer surface of the tower is made up of several even panels mated at different angles. In the frontal part of the tower there are relatively large wedge-shaped armored obstacles. Their appearance allows to build assumptions about the use of combined protection. In addition, the project may provide for the installation of dynamic protection modules.

The tower has a large aft niche, which is likely to house the ammunition stack. The stern and rear of the sides of the tower are covered with lattice fences, which increase the level of protection. Behind the onboard grilles there are smoke grenade launchers. On the roof of the tower visible hatches of the crew and blocks of various equipment. The number of hatches and the composition of the sighting equipment is unknown. Probably, the tower has three hatches for the crew members working in the fighting compartment: the commander, gunner and loader.

It should be noted that the tower of the new combat vehicle, seen a few days ago, is very similar to the tower of the same "nameless" lung tank, which became known several years ago. It is known that this tank has been supplied by the People’s Liberation Army of China since 2010 and is used in a number of units, primarily based in the mountainous regions of the country. Probably, when creating a new combat vehicle, it was decided to use an armored tower of an exhausted design. The appearance of the towers of two armored vehicles clearly indicates that the new project provides for a different, simplified composition of the equipment.

The main weapon of the new combat vehicle is a weapon installed in the turret. According to the authors of the blog BMPD, this is a rifled gun caliber 105 mm. The gun is equipped with an ejector, a heat shield and a muzzle brake, which, however, is covered with a cover in the photographs. The type of weapon and its characteristics are unknown. Raises questions and the composition of additional weapons. Probably, a rifle-caliber machine gun was paired with a gun, and an anti-aircraft machine gun could be mounted above one of the tower hatches.

The name, characteristics and purpose of the new Chinese war machine, captured in published photographs, still remain a mystery. The developer and the military department of China have not made any official statements. Knowing the Chinese "tradition" of publishing information about the new military equipment, one should not expect that the answers to the existing questions will appear in the near future. It remains only to speculate and try to guess what the new sample is.

The base chassis borrowed from the armored personnel carrier, with a number of its features, and the 105 mm caliber cannon suggest that an unknown photographer managed to capture a new Chinese light tank design. Indeed, judging from the available information, the new combat vehicle satisfies a number of requirements for such equipment. This bulletproof and anti-fragmentation booking, as well as a relatively powerful weapon, whose caliber still does not allow to compete with the main tanks. At the same time, the assumption of creating a new amphibious tank should be immediately discarded. On the existing photos, there is no waveguide shield, and the estimated combat weight of the vehicle of at least 16-18 tons will not allow the vehicle to cross water barriers by swimming.

Some questions are caused by the coloring of the "nameless" combat vehicle. Camouflage paint on the basis of green or blue color is applied to the equipment of the Chinese army, depending on subunits and types of troops. The sample seen by the photographer, in turn, is painted in khaki sand tint. It is possible that the prototype machine, which does not fall into the troops, it was decided to cover this paint, which was available at the manufacturer. However, such a coloring can be considered proof that China has created a new combat vehicle designed exclusively for export deliveries, and the sample in question is built on the order of any country with a desert landscape and a hot climate.

China has traditionally been in no hurry to make statements about a new combat vehicle, information about which accidentally became public knowledge. Foreign experts and lovers of military equipment, in turn, are trying to analyze the existing photos and draw conclusions about the new development of Chinese engineers. Not having complete information about the new combat vehicle, only the most general conclusions can be made. The photos directly say only that a new light tank has been created in China, in whose design elements borrowed from other armored vehicles are widely used. The prospects for such an armored vehicle can be a topic for individual disputes.


On the materials of the sites:
http://slide.mil.news.sina.com.cn/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/
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  1. Klim2011
    Klim2011 18 September 2014 08: 56
    +5
    Chinese military equipment is becoming increasingly diverse. Maybe a sau, not a light tank?
    1. avt
      avt 18 September 2014 13: 05
      +7
      Quote: Klim2011
      Maybe a sau, not a light tank?

      Yes, it looks more like a "Carnation"
      Quote: bmv04636
      As I understand it, our Sprud-SD is haunted by a light floating self-propelled assault anti-tank gun.

      Perhaps.
      1. Evgeny_Lev
        Evgeny_Lev 18 September 2014 13: 34
        +1
        so the tower from the stern, when returning firing on the course, will not turn the device upside down?
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 18 September 2014 19: 21
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Sprud-SD
        it's cool !!! at least spruce !!! wassat
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    2. kaiwai
      kaiwai 24 September 2014 11: 24
      0
      I think it's still self-propelled guns. Troops, quite possibly even waterfowl. The designers decided to fit a few new-fangled ideas:
      1) hide the crew under the tower.
      2) move the mechanical unit to the nose of the machine
      3) that it is a water-floating car: the nose of the car with a characteristic wide inclination of the lower armor plate.
      4) for a light tank, the aft location of the tower is not relevant, because The LT should support infantry, especially in urban battles.
  2. bmv04636
    bmv04636 18 September 2014 09: 00
    +6
    As I understand it, our Sprud-SD is haunted by a light floating self-propelled assault anti-tank gun. For Southeast Asia, with its monsoon and small rivers, that’s it.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 18 September 2014 10: 11
      +3
      Quote: bmv04636
      As I understand it, our Sprud-SD is haunted

      Oh, don’t tell anyone, there’s no rest from us - they “quit,” “swear,” “fear,” at worst, they just worry!
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 18 September 2014 19: 24
      +4
      Quote: bmv04636
      As I understand it, our Sprud-SD is haunted by a light floating self-propelled assault anti-tank gun. For Southeast Asia, with its monsoon and small rivers, that’s it.

      if there is a cannon and a tower, it does not mean that it looks like ... "SPRUT".
  3. Lopatov
    Lopatov 18 September 2014 09: 29
    +2
    This is a fashion. The next coming of a light tank.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 18 September 2014 10: 37
      +6
      Quote: Spade
      This is a fashion. The next coming of a light tank.


      there is no next COPYING of another's invention .....

      Chinese XEROX works without stopping ...
      took and stupidly copied, the German BMP "Marder Medium MBT" is equipped with a gun turret "Oto Melara" ...
      stabilized in two planes 105-mm rifled gun manufactured by the Italian company "Oto Melara" .....
      the tool can use all available in the NATO countries shells of the appropriate caliber ...
      pointing angles remained the same: from -9 to +20 degrees, a 105-mm rifled gun stabilized in two planes .....

      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 18 September 2014 10: 59
        +2
        another option: Argentine light tank "TAM" ((((Tanque Argentino Mediano)))
        designed for the Argentine army by the German company "Thyssen-Henschel" on the main chassis of the BMP "Marder" .....
        the modernized "Marder" is equipped with a 105 mm German L7A2 rifled gun with 50 rounds of ammunition, 20 of them are located in the turret, and the rest are inside the hull ...
        additional armament consists of two 7,62 mm machine guns. One of them is paired with a gun, and the other is located on top of the tower and can serve as anti-aircraft weapons ...
        German engine - MTU MB-883 Ka500 diesel engine with a capacity of 720 l / s .... speed of 75 km / h ...
        the crew of the tank is 4 people ....

        Since 1976, its mass production began ....
        the new Chinese tanker laughing

        Tank TAM Argentina

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        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 18 September 2014 13: 07
          0
          SPG 105mm USA M108 SP HMC ... in Afghanistan 2013 ...
  4. Salkrast
    Salkrast 18 September 2014 09: 37
    +3
    the tower is too healthy. probably the whole BC was stuffed there. test pipe at the car good. If you look at the pictures, there are no signs that the machine is swimming. about the stuffing - sights, devices, OMS and so on. No data crying . modernization potential is high.

    Appearance pretty, pipe-ogogo! It’ll probably take its niche.
  5. ParapaPanda
    ParapaPanda 18 September 2014 09: 48
    +2
    Yes, I think something like Octopus.
  6. dzau
    dzau 18 September 2014 10: 24
    +1
    a similar color can be considered evidence that China has created a new combat vehicle designed exclusively for export deliveries
    arab market continue to spud

    or m. African in Egypt, things didn't work out for the states, if for several. yards buy iron from us, then China will not offend
  7. Nitarius
    Nitarius 18 September 2014 10: 36
    +3
    in China, too, their traitors enough! Yes, and the Chinese are also incomprehensible guys .. DIDN’T CLOSE the car, nothing .. or was the goal to burn the car?
  8. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 18 September 2014 10: 36
    +3
    "Octopus" in Chinese: a non-floating fake.

    New generation Chinese light tank (c) military-today
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 18 September 2014 12: 51
      +3
      Sorry, but specifically the Chinese created this tank for their units operating in the mountains. I do not think that the ability to overcome water obstacles afloat is critically important there.
      1. Andriuha077
        Andriuha077 18 September 2014 19: 01
        0
        Quote: Spade
        operating in the mountains

        Yes of course.
        Remember, they want to repeat.

        Sino-Indian Border War - Alpine border conflict between the People's Republic of China and India in the fall 1962 year.
        Unresolved issue of drawing the border line between the former British India and Tibet. Two sections were considered controversial. One of them, with an area of ​​518 km², is located in the north-eastern part of Kashmir.
        20 October 1962 years of hostilities became fierce. The Chinese attacked the Indian positions near Dhol and Khinseman, and then developed an offensive from two flanks on Tawang - from Bumla in the north and west, where the Chinese pursued Indian troops retreating from Nyamkachu (near the Dhol post). Then in the fighting there was a lull for several days ...
        On November 21, the Beijing radio announced a unilateral ceasefire: the USSR did not support the PRC and displayed neutrality, contrary to the calculations of Mao Zedong, who hoped, as always, to use Soviet aid, and the United Kingdom and the United States began to supply arms to India.

        Sino-Indian border conflict, also known as the Chol incident - an armed clash between the forces of India and China that occurred in the fall 1967 years in the Indian state of Sikkim.
        In September 1967, the Indian border post at Natula was attacked by superior Chinese forces. The fighting went on for five days, all Chinese ground attacks were repulsed.
        1 — On 2 on October, a border incident occurred at Chola. Chinese soldiers surrounded the Indian border post and launched a bayonet attack, followed by mortar and machine gun fire. As in the previous time, this conflict ended in a tactical victory for India.
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    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 18 September 2014 18: 08
      0
      Quote: Andriuha077
      "Octopus" in Chinese: a non-floating fake.

      Quote: Spade
      Sorry, but specifically the Chinese created this tank for their units operating in the mountains. I do not think that the ability to overcome water obstacles afloat is critical there


      and who said that the Chinese "mountain tank" is seaworthy ????
      reliable information ... no .....
    3. cosmos111
      cosmos111 18 September 2014 20: 48
      0
      Quote: Andriuha077
      "Octopus" in Chinese: a non-floating fake.


      MTO ....
      In China, a new combat vehicle
      in the nose !!!
      more suitable, again on the prototype of the German BMP "Puma" ....

      the prototype BMP "Puma" was developed by KRAUS MAFFAI in 1986 ...
      BM "Puma" was developed as a universal multi-purpose chassis ....
      weighing from 25 (((light)), to 40 ((heavy))) tons ...

      "Puma" ()))) P-Panzer, U-Unter, M-Minimalen, A-Aufwand)))

      "Puma PT 1", with a short-barreled 105 mm gun .....
      "Puma PT1"
      клик


      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 18 September 2014 21: 12
        0
        as armament of the prototype BM "Puma" were used .... towers:
        E4A1 tower (KUKA) 20 mm
        Belgian Cockerill Tower 25 mm
        40 mm Bofors gun
        Leopard 1A5 Tower 105 mm
        Mauser - Mörserturm 120 mm

        the prototype "Puma PT1" is made of carbon steel ... with a Leopard 1A5 turret and 105 mm cannon ....
        PT1 is the prototype of the "Krauss Maffei" since 1986 ...
  9. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 18 September 2014 10: 55
    +2
    and holds 30 mm? !! Well, 40 mm is definitely not, but say the tank ... the characteristics in the studio, but it looks like a Chinese Octopus self-propelled guns ... the only turret is the aft BC arrangement.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 18 September 2014 18: 26
      +1
      a little off topic ...

      but it looks like the Chinese and BM "Patria AMV" copied ...

      Chinese BM ZBD-09
      1. Lone gunman
        Lone gunman 18 September 2014 23: 55
        +1
        I think so, if your brains are too small, then you can copy, thereby narrowing the gap in technology, unless of course they copied the filling too, you can try to remove all the shortcomings during the next modernization, but the car has nothing, I see it can even drive))) In general, success for them, and our BTR-90 "Rostok" have not gone further ...
        1. DRA-88
          DRA-88 19 September 2014 00: 05
          +3
          Quote: Lone gunman
          and our BTR-90 "Rostok" have not gone further yet ...

          School of domestic tank building may soon be lost!
          Yes, what to say if Kubinka was made completely commercial, as they say "the symbol and showcase" of the development of armored vehicles and tanks !!!
          sadness (((
  10. Gbanderlog
    Gbanderlog 18 September 2014 11: 19
    +2
    There is no "traditional" air conditioning in the back, typical of China's new tank turrets.
  11. bob
    bob 18 September 2014 11: 24
    +2
    something China is so diligently increasing its armored vehicles
  12. ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 18 September 2014 11: 28
    +2
    Thank you! Informative!
  13. teron
    teron 18 September 2014 11: 53
    +4
    Who can tell you why a light tank that doesn't float like our Sprut, but lags behind any decent MBT in terms of firepower and armor protection? For what? Drive ghosts, so what is RPG for? They and MBT are quite tough if applied correctly. This interesting fashion for light tanks, including wheeled ones, came either from a lack of money - like here's a tank, well, light, so what, because there won't be a big war (I read a lot of articles in which, with manic obstinacy, various kinds of experts prove that a big war is impossible), but there is enough money for it with a total lack of budget funds. Whether for the sake of various kinds of theories of warfare. But this is my personal opinion, probably I'm wrong and what we see is the future of world tank building.
    1. Salkrast
      Salkrast 18 September 2014 13: 13
      +3
      a light tank is one thing, and an infantry fighting vehicle is another. their goals and objectives are different. in local wars there is not much use for heavy vehicles (practice shows). no matter how thick the armor is an ATGM or RPG, it is flashed from any distance. a full-fledged tank is expensive, a lightly armored vehicle with comparable firepower is cheaper. and taking into account operating costs - much cheaper.

      "Octopus" car is certainly good, but most likely its goodness rests on its own cost.

      The practice of the latest military actions most likely pushes the military to use light tanks or infantry fighting vehicles with good drin.
  14. mimo crock
    mimo crock 18 September 2014 12: 17
    +1
    Quote: teron
    Who can tell you why a light tank that doesn't float like our Sprut, but lags behind any decent MBT in terms of firepower and armor protection? For what? Drive ghosts, so what is RPG for? They and MBT are quite tough if applied correctly. This interesting fashion for light tanks, including wheeled ones, came either from a lack of money - like here's a tank, well, light, so what, because there won't be a big war (I read a lot of articles in which, with manic obstinacy, various kinds of experts prove that a big war is impossible), but there is enough money for it with a total lack of budget funds. Whether for the sake of various kinds of theories of warfare. But this is my personal opinion, probably I'm wrong and what we see is the future of world tank building.

    And who will tell you why the floating octopus-sd and airborne forces? There is no fashion. But here it is full of expert scoops forever in love with the Ak and T-54 \ 72, ready to dash to the English Channel.
    1. Salkrast
      Salkrast 18 September 2014 12: 34
      +1
      jerk on the English Channel on the t-80 were going to do repeat
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  16. cosmos111
    cosmos111 18 September 2014 17: 44
    0
    Type-99 in the Peace Mission 2014 exercise ...
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    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 18 September 2014 17: 59
      +3
      clone of a German diesel engine, MBT "Leopard II" ((V-shaped 12-cylinder four-stroke diesel MB 873 developing at 2600 rpm))))) power of 1500 l / s Chinese diesel for the Type 99A tank .....
      and a factory producing them ... we do not have such diesels (((1500 l / s)))) yet .....
      1. traper
        traper 19 September 2014 20: 17
        0
        "... we do not have such diesel engines (((1500 l / s)))) yet ....."
        Greetings from Chelyabinsk http://chtz-uraltrac.ru/catalog/items/206.php