RSD-10 “Pioneer” missile system

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In the 1988 year, in accordance with the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Small-Range Missiles, the Soviet Union removed from service several missile systems that were subject to the agreement. The newest complexes with a medium-range missile, which had to be abandoned, were the Pioneer family systems. From the mid-seventies, these complexes ensured the security of the country and kept potential adversaries from attack. However, due to its characteristics, the Pioneer complexes fell under reduction and were disposed of by the beginning of the nineties.

RSD-10 “Pioneer” missile system
SPN 15U106 of the 15P645 "Pioneer" complex - SS-20 SABER in the pre-launch position (processing photos from the collection "Weapon Of Russia ", MilitaryRussia.Ru, 2011)


The development of the new missile system, which received the 15P645 index and the name “Pioneer” (later the designation RSD-10), was launched in 1971 at the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering (MIT) under the leadership of Alexander Davidovich Nadiradze. Engineers were required to create a new medium-range ballistic missile capable of hitting targets at ranges up to 4500-5000 km, and other elements of the missile complex, including a mobile launcher on a wheeled chassis. To simplify the creation of the missile system, it was proposed to take the Temp-2С intercontinental missile as a basis. As a basis for the "Pioneer" were used two upper stages of the previously developed rocket.

The lead developer of the new project was appointed MIT. In addition to this organization, the TsKB Titan, the Soyuz and other organizations were involved in the creation of various components of the promising missile system. In accordance with the decision of the Council of Ministers on April 20, 1973 was required to complete the design work and begin testing the complex by the middle of 74. Such terms were one of the reasons that a large number of elements of the complex were borrowed from the project Temp-2С with minor modifications.

Tests of the new Pioneer missile system started in the middle of 1974. Flight tests began on September 21 of the same year. Debugging and testing of the systems continued until the spring of 1976. 11 March 76-th State Commission signed an act of acceptance of the new missile system 16P645 with the rocket 15IX45 into the strategic missile forces. Soon began the delivery of new complexes to the troops.

The main elements of the mobile ground rocket complex 15P645 "Pioneer" were a ballistic missile 15Ж45 and self-propelled launcher 15Х106. Such architecture of the complex allowed patrolling away from the bases and, after receiving the order, to launch the rocket in the shortest time possible.

Self-propelled launcher 15U106 developed in Volgograd TsKB "Titan". The basis for this car was the chassis MAZ-547В with wheel formula 12х12. The total length of the launcher exceeded 19 m, the total mass of the complex (with the transport-launch container and rocket) - 80 tons. Thanks to the B-38 diesel engine with 650 horsepower. 15U106 could accelerate to 40 km / s. It was provided to overcome the rise to 15 °, the ditch wide to 3 m and the crossing of water obstacles with a depth of no more than 1,1 m ford.

The 15U106 launcher mounted a lifting unit with hydraulic drives, designed to install a launch vehicle (TPC) rocket and bring it to a vertical position before launch. The 15Я107 container was proposed to be manufactured from glass fiber reinforced with titanium rings. The design of the TPK was multi-layered; there was a layer of thermal insulation between the two fiberglass cylinders. The length of the TLC is 19 m. A typical hemispherical cover was attached to the front / upper container ends on pyrobolts, and a powder pressure pressure accumulator (PAD) housing, which provided a mortar launch, was attached to the rear / bottom ends.


The launch of the rocket 15Ж45. In the left picture you can see the shooting of the redox potential of the stage of reconnaissance of warheads, on the right - the shooting of the redox phase of the 1-th stage of the rocket. (Dyachok A., Stepanov I., Storen. Mobile medium-range soil rocket complex RSD-10 (РТ-21М) (SS-20 "Saber"). 2008 g.)


The launch of the Pioneer missiles of all modifications was carried out by the so-called. cold method. The product was thrown from TPC due to a powder charge in the bottom part of the container. For greater efficiency, the PAD case was made in the form of a cylindrical part attached to the WPC and a sliding glass inside it. During launch, the pressure of the powder gases PAD was supposed to affect the rocket, and also to push the body glass down. Sinking to the ground, this detail was supposed to serve as an additional support for the WPC. In case of abnormal burning of the powder charge, capable of destroying the rocket, the retractable glass was supposed to break through and relieve the pressure of the gases inside the TPC.

Inside the transport and launch container, the rocket of the Pioneer complex was held by means of detachable support-driving belts (AFP), also performing the functions of the obturator. Immediately after the release of the missile from the ORP container, they fired and flew to a range of at least 150-170 m, which imposed certain restrictions on the organization of group rocket launches from one site. In order to avoid damage to surrounding objects, a detachable cover of the WPC was attached to the launcher with a cable and had to fall in close proximity to it.

The first ammunition developed in the framework of the Pioneer project was the medium-range ballistic missile 15Ж45. It was created with extensive use of the developments and components of the Temp-2С missile complex developed earlier. The design of the rocket 15Ж45 consisted of two marching stages, the stage of breeding and instrument compartment. With a total length of 16,5 m, the rocket had a launch weight of 37 tons, the throwing weight was 1,6 tons.

The first stage of the rocket with a length of 8,5 m and a weight of 26,6 t was equipped with a solid-fuel 15-66 engine with a fiberglass hull, using composite fuel. To reduce the length of the rocket, the nozzle of the first stage engine was partially sunk into its body. It was proposed to control the operation of the engine using gas-jet rudders made of heat-resistant material. These rudders were coupled with resharp aerodynamic, located on the outer surface of the rocket. The engine had a cut-off system.

The design of the second stage with a length of 4,6 m and a mass of 8,6 t was similar to the architecture of the first stage. The second main stage was equipped with a solid-fuel 15-205 engine with a partially recessed nozzle. To change the flight range of the rocket, the second stage received a throttle cut-off system, which was designed anew, and not borrowed from the previous project. The flight control of the second stage was carried out using a system of gas rudders.

The rocket breeding stage 15ЖХNNUMX was equipped with four solid-fuel 45D15P engines with rotary nozzles. Small-sized engines were located on the side of the breeding stage, below the warheads. The combat equipment of the 69ЖХNNXX rocket consisted of three nuclear warheads of individual guidance with a power of 15 CT each. The warheads were located on the sides of the central cone of the instrument compartment and gave the head of the rocket a distinctive appearance. No means of overcoming missile defense were envisaged.

The 15IXX45 ballistic missile received an inertial guidance system developed by the Moscow NPO Automation and Instrumentation. The control system was based on the onboard computer and gyro-stabilized platform. The capabilities of the control system made it possible to introduce a flight task before the rocket was raised to a vertical position, and also provided the ability to fly in any direction regardless of the position of the launcher. During the flight, the on-board control system for the correction of the flight path consistently used the rudders of two stages and the engines of the breeding stage.

According to official data, the rocket 15Ж45 could deliver three combat units of individual guidance to a range of up to 4700 km. Circular probable deviation (QUO) did not exceed 550 m.

The launch of the Pioneer missile complex could be carried out both from the prepared open ground and from the Krona defense structure. The latter was a disguised garage with gates at both ends. On duty, the launchers of the Pioneer complex could enter such facilities and expect an order. Before launching with the help of squibs, the roof of the structure should have been dropped, after which the complex should be calculated with a missile and other preparatory operations should be carried out. For camouflage, the Krona facilities were equipped with electric furnaces. The building with operating furnaces in the infrared range had the same appearance as the “Krona” with the launcher inside. A relatively large number of defenses made it difficult to track the Pioneer missile complexes with reconnaissance satellites.

Regardless of the location of the launch procedure looked the same. Upon arrival at the position of the calculation had to hang out the launcher on the jacks and prepare the rocket for launch. All preparatory operations were performed automatically after the appropriate command. During the preparation for the launch, the cover of TPK was shot and the container was raised to a vertical position. At launch, the PAD gases were thrown at a rocket to a height of about 30 m, after which the AFP was shot and the first stage cruising engine was launched.

The mobile ground rocket complex 15P645 "Pioneer" was put into service in 1976 year. Serial production of missiles started a year earlier at the Votkinsk engineering plant. The first regiment, fully staffed by the Pioneers, took over duty in the summer of 1976 of the year. The Pioneer missile systems served in different regions of the USSR, which made it possible to “hold on sight” a multitude of targets in Europe, Asia and some parts of North America. At the same time, the Pioneer complexes of all modifications served mainly in the European part of the Soviet Union. The number of missiles deployed east of the Urals has never exceeded a few dozen. New missiles were replaced in the army with outdated weapons, such as the P-14 ballistic missiles.

It is known that over the years of service of the Pioneer complexes in the strategic missile forces, 190 launches were made. All launches were completed without serious problems or accidents and ended with the fall of warheads to the target area.

According to some information, the information about the appearance of new medium-range missiles at the Soviet Union caused quite a stir in the leadership of the NATO countries. In the documents of the North Atlantic Alliance, the Pioneer complex appeared under the designation SS-20 Saber. In addition, it is known about the existence of an unofficial nickname "The Thunderstorm of Europe", due to the tactical and technical characteristics of the complex.

Having completed the development of the 15ЖХNNX rocket, the unification of several organizations headed by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering was engaged in the improvement of this product. In August, the 45 of the year began flight tests of the upgraded 1979Ж15 rocket. Testing and finishing rocket took about a year. In December 53, the 1980P15 “Pioneer-653” or “Pioneer-UTTH” complex (“Improved tactical and technical characteristics”) with the 2ЖХ15 rocket was put into service.

The first and second stages of the upgraded rocket remained the same. All changes concerned only the control unit located in the housing of the breeding stage. The use of new electronic equipment as part of the control system made it possible to reduce the CER to 450 m. In addition, some sources mention the use of upgraded engines for the dilution stage, which made it possible to increase the allowable distance between the attacked targets.

In the mid-eighties, the USSR and the USA, realizing the danger of medium-range and short-range ballistic missiles, began negotiations, the purpose of which was to be a new international agreement. The result of these consultations was the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Small-Range Missiles, signed in December 1987 and entered into force in the middle of 88. The agreement implied a complete rejection of missile systems with a firing range from 500 to 5500 km. PCD-10 / 15П645 / 15П653 “Pioneer” complexes were covered by the contract, as a result of which their utilization began.

According to reports, over several years of production, more than 520 self-propelled Pioneer launchers were built, although at the time of signing the contract only 405 units with 405 missiles were deployed. In total, the troops at that time had 650 missiles. In accordance with the contract, by the end of 1988, the Pioneer complexes began to be removed from duty and disposed of. The latest missiles, launchers and other elements of the 15P645 and 15P653 complexes were destroyed in the spring of 1991.

Currently, four launchers and TPK complex "Pioneer" are museum pieces. Two samples are stored in Ukrainian museums: in the Military-Historical Museum of the Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (Vinnitsa) and in the Museum of the Great Patriotic War (Kiev). Two more copies are available in Russian museums: in the Central Museum of the Armed Forces (Moscow) and in the museum of the Kapustin Yar test site (Znamensk). In addition, several 15ЖХ45 missiles became museum exhibits. The remaining launchers and missiles were destroyed.


The Pioneer missile system was distinguished by high mobility, could be quickly brought into combat and retargeted to higher priority targets. The range of the missile complex "Pioneer" is 5 500 kilometers. The warhead could carry a one megaton nuclear charge.
Source: Infographics: Leonid Kuleshov / Artem Lebedev / Nikita Mityunin / RG


On the materials of the sites:
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/
http://kapyar.ru/
http://vpk.name/
http://rvsn.ruzhany.info/
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-381.html
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  1. +2
    4 September 2014 10: 03
    The Americans could not simply create a PGK and therefore decided to destroy Soviet missiles.
  2. +7
    4 September 2014 10: 27
    Vesch! good Tremble miserable jerks! am
  3. +10
    4 September 2014 10: 29
    It is time to put an end to this shameful agreement, especially since it is only bilateral with the Americans who are at a fucking distance from us. So he doesn't burden them too much. On the other hand, it is vitally important for us to ensure security from the threats of the shrinking missile defense ring and NATO bases (shitty) (be it not okay!) Until we are strangled, we must take measures and, as one of them, put the Pioneers in defense of the homeland!
    1. +4
      4 September 2014 10: 54
      This is a double-edged blade, it must be understood that the adversary will also receive some opportunities. Hope for their rocket technical impotence is not worth it IMHO
      1. 0
        4 September 2014 10: 55
        Our independent "friends", I think, will be incredibly happy, to be helpful to NATE in developing the necessary complexes.
    2. -3
      4 September 2014 10: 54
      And where will he fly? Destroy Paris?
      It’s like a drum for Americans. Their cities will remain intact.
      But their missiles, Pioneer analogues (like Pershing) for
      7 minutes of flight along a flat path will cover the ICBM mines in the depths of Russia.
      This agreement is beneficial to Russia, not the United States. Get out of it - shoot yourself in the temple.
      1. +2
        4 September 2014 11: 07
        every weapon is needed. not only for everyone who wants to go to another continent. these missiles will not let you spoil any mongrel from geyropa.
      2. +1
        4 September 2014 11: 08
        Well, the launch will be not only in Europe, but also in the USA. This is logical. After all, Europeans will not sit and wait until they are covered. They themselves are the first to be shy.
        But, this is not an option. Tryndets all.
      3. +2
        4 September 2014 11: 16
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Their cities will remain intact.

        If you launch it as in the "deep olden days" - through the pole, then the range is 5000 km. Enough for Omerige.
        1. 0
          5 September 2014 08: 59
          Quote: inkass_98
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Their cities will remain intact.

          If you launch it as in the "deep olden days" - through the pole, then the range is 5000 km. Enough for Omerige.


          We’ll cover Canada for sure laughing
      4. +3
        4 September 2014 11: 38
        Covering the mines is bad.
        The good thing is that in any case, we will have the maritime component, the aviation component, plus at that time and even now the BZHRK and other mobile ICBMs. Therefore, any shot in Russia is a shot at his temple.
        Burn the fuck, ren of all and those who shoot and those who are nurturing.
      5. +7
        4 September 2014 12: 12
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And where will he fly? Destroy Paris?
        It’s like a drum for Americans. Their cities will remain intact.
        But their missiles, Pioneer analogues (like Pershing) for
        7 minutes of flight along a flat path will cover the ICBM mines in the depths of Russia.
        This agreement is beneficial to Russia, not the United States. Get out of it - shoot yourself in the temple.

        Do not tell my slippers!
        This is me about the benefit for Russia, if Che.
        I’ll tell you a maaaalenky secret: in Europe there are two nuclear powers and the Kuyeva Hucha of American bases. So, here they were the primary goals for the discussed devices.
        But secondary, now it’s also not a secret, some allied state organizations with vigorous bonba (scary?) And, naturally, a world gas station in the Arabian desert.
        Besides that, 5000 through the joint venture is quite enough.
      6. +2
        4 September 2014 14: 08
        Yes, even without Pershing they can cover mines whose coordinates are well known from their missile defense bases in Europe. And they will still be in the Baltic States and Ukraine. So in fact they are already deploying medium-range missiles that will hit targets to the Urals, only they are called by a different name. Be sure to withdraw from the RSD agreement. It’s better to spend RSD on additional NATO bases (they are cheaper than ICBMs, easier to disguise, their coordinates do not have to be reported to the USA) So RSDs must be set to Europe, and ICBMs to the USA. And if you place them on the railway missile trains (as it was before) or on water transport! It will be practically impossible to detect from a satellite. How many ships, barges, dry cargo vessels float on our rivers, reservoirs, lakes. And still standing in the backwater for fun. And try to recognize such ships with RSD!
      7. 0
        4 September 2014 15: 48
        No to Americans not ON DRUM. Do not forget that Paris is France, and France is NATO. So as soon as Russia hits Paris, the Americans and NATO will have a reason to strike Russia. But NATO cannot fully count on all the members of essentially 12 European countries; these are freeloaders — Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Romania, Albania, Croatia, Slovakia, and Slovenia.
      8. +3
        4 September 2014 17: 58
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And where will he fly? Destroy Paris?

        The number of missiles deployed east of the Urals has never exceeded several tens.

        :))))
        I will tell you a respected, small fairy tale, a true story ...
        It means that there were half a hundred and more of them in Siberia in Siberia! They planned to set up to Wrangel Island!
        And moreover, my friend, a "pioneer leader", told such things - first of all, when the Yankees-descendants of cowboys appeared on inspections in the Trans-Ural regiments - they were looking for 3 steps from the "Pioneers"!;)
        Why ?, you ask ...
        I will answer - "Because, 15zh42 could easily be put on the Pioneer SPU, turning the post-summer into an intercontinental complex! 15zh42 is a rocket of the famous and super-secret Temp-2S PGRK complex.
        Many rocket scientists and other military experts believe that the Yankees really did not care deeply about the Europeans, but the fact that the "Pioneers" could behave this way greatly irritated them up to chronic enuresis and constant diarrhea ... :)))
        1. +1
          4 September 2014 22: 55
          I'll tell you another story. In the Soviet Union, and in Russia too, there are now rocket armies. There are several of them. As soon as there are armies, that is, divisions, and in them, respectively, brigades and regiments. Depending on the type of missiles, in a regiment from 6 to 10 launchers, in a brigade 3 regiments, in a division of 10-12 regiments. You can find data on the Internet on the number of Soviet / Russian ballistic missiles and their locations. Open a geographic atlas. find the Ural Mountains and what is further east of them. Everything becomes clear. I'll say it again. dear Voyaka, there is no need to invent anything about the "easy" conversion of one DBK into another. There are no fools. During the period of my service in the Strategic Missile Forces, I twice fell under the SALT-1 and SALT-2 agreements. Not only rockets were "cut" ...
          1. 0
            5 September 2014 11: 10
            Quote: rubin6286
            Open the geographic atlas. find the Ural Mountains and what's next east.

            There are no brigades in the Strategic Missile Forces!
            There are three armies - Vladimir, Orenburg and Omsk:
            27-I Guard RA (Vladimir)
            7-I Guards RD (Rezhitskaya) (Ozerny / Vypolzovo, Bologoe-4)
            14-i rd (Yoshkar-Ola)
            28-I Guard Rd (Kozelsk)
            54-I Guards RD (Red Pines / Teikovo-6)
            60-I rd (Taman Division) (Bright / Tatishevo-5)
            31-I RA (Rostoshi, Orenburg)
            8-I RD (Closed Joint-Stock Company "Pervomaisky" - formerly Yurya-2) - command missiles
            13-i rd (Clear / Dombarovsky)
            42-I rd (ZATO Svobodny, located in 35 km from Nizhny Tagil and 15 km from Verkhnyaya Salda).
            33-I Guards RA (Omsk)
            35-i rd (Siberian / Barnaul)
            39-I Guard Rd (Guards / Novosibirsk-95)
            29-I Guards RD (Irkutsk, the district "Green")
            62-I rd (Sunny / Uzhur-4)

            About that -
            there is no need to invent anything about the "easy" conversion of one DBK into another. There are no fools.

            a very, very limited circle of people knew about this, in general, like about "Temp-2S" ...
            1. +1
              5 September 2014 14: 54
              These are no brigades now, and in the mid-70s they were part of the Omsk and Orenburg missile armies and were armed with ground and mine PU missiles 8K75,8K67. On them I began my military service.
              But what are there parts of the Strategic Missile Forces in Transbaikalia? Where did the Clear, Wood, and Tin-3 go?
              Regarding the "limited circle of persons", I will repeat again that there are no fools and not only missiles were destroyed by SALT, but missile tractors, transport launch containers (TPK), mine launchers were blown up under the control of foreign military inspectors. The meaning was this:
              if you want a new mobile complex, do the rocket and everything else again, and we will calculate overseas what you will do, when and how much. That's it!
              1. 0
                5 September 2014 20: 29
                Quote: rubin6286
                But what are there parts of the Strategic Missile Forces in Transbaikalia? Where did the Clear, Wood, and Tin-3 go?

                ... cut, alas: (((

                We also wanted 3 divisions - N. Tagil, Kozelsky and Novosib. Thank God they came to their senses, and Obama helped - he insisted on 800 media under a new agreement ...
                There were brigades, yes ... Sary-ozekskaya RBR, for example ...
                About -
                Quote: rubin6286
                Regarding the "limited circle of people", I will repeat again that there are no fools, and not only missiles were destroyed by SALT, but missile tractors, transport and launch containers (TPK), mine launchers were blown up under the control of foreign military inspectors

                3,14 The Indians over 10 years (1975-86) were looking for the "Ghost Division" -5IU as part of the 42 PGRK "Temp-2S". Guessed that there is somewhere, in every "Pioneer" they suspected ICBMs. There were more than 400 "pioneers", look for the wind in the field. Hence the cold sweat and diapers ...;)
                Found when labeled passed ...

                But no one still knows how many 15ж642 rockets were fired. According to the Yankees 100-150. According to the employees at the complex - about 50 ...
                Nevertheless, according to some signs, there were more ...
                And the complexes "Pioneer" 15P645K could easily accept them and work instead of 15ZH645 :)))
                That's the story.
                There were people at one time ... daring and courageous! And it doesn’t seem that the Russian land has become impoverished ...


                General Borodunov, the extreme commander of the "Ghost ..."

                Here - http://rvsn.ruzhany.info/SS_16.html
                Basic information on Tempu-2С and the formation of armed.
                There is a book "Phantom Division" published by veterans ...


                reconstruction of Temp-2С from memory

                and there is no photo of the complex itself ... have not yet been discovered ...
                1. 0
                  6 September 2014 09: 16
                  By the time Marky handed over the "phantom division of the Strategic Missile Forces" and 5IU, they had already departed to their new deployment location together with Bazilyuk, Borodunov, Bitsky and many other officers and warrant officers whom I personally knew from joint service in the Omsk Missile Army. I don’t think it was connected with the attempts to hide "Pioneer", since 5IU solved a number of tasks beyond the scope of the "standard" missile division, which, incidentally, are still relevant today.
                  If you served in 5IU in 1978-1983gg .. it is quite possible that our service paths intersected, but at that time I served in 2IU.
                  When disbanding for WWS, PUs, fueling and handling equipment, storage facilities, etc. were undermined. As a lieutenant in military unit 54112, I took part in this and there is a photo for memory.
                  1. 0
                    6 September 2014 14: 01
                    Quote: rubin6286
                    If you served in 5IU in 1978-1983gg .. it is quite possible that our service paths intersected, but at that time I served in 2IU.

                    Alas, in these years he did not serve in the Strategic Rocket Forces ...
                    But, personally, I know some who served in 5IU ...

                    The task of hiding "Pioneer" under something IMHO, no one really set.
                    But the inverse problem could well stand. The fact that 15P645K could "take over" and start up 15ZH42 - the "knowledgeable" do not doubt.
                    The descendants of the cowboys also "for some reason guessed" about this, visual inspections on the ground at that time were not practiced, their control points at the exit from the Vodkinsk plant were not yet available either ...
      9. +3
        4 September 2014 20: 34
        In the case of this scenario, the destruction of the main cities of the EEC is a matter of minutes. And no missile defense can help here - Euro-missile defense as part of the 44 GBI missiles will not be able to save the infantry ballistic missiles from the 80-90, and the ground Aegis will be thrown to intercept the ICBMs, not the ballistic missiles. So the countries hosting the American BMD, ABM, and TNW on their territory should think twice before taking this step. Also, Russia can deploy its BMD in the Caribbean with ONLY symmetrical disarmament conditions.
        And most importantly, eliminate the 5 column
      10. +1
        4 September 2014 22: 29
        There is no need to scare children and come up with something that does not exist. Any war, especially a nuclear one, is a carefully planned event and cannot develop according to the scenario "one donkey pressed a button and the whole world died." In modern conditions, it is impossible to hide the preparations for war, which means that the adjacent side has the opportunity to respond in a timely manner to such a threat. Any nuclear power understands this.

        "Pershing" is not an analogue of "Pioneer". This is a tactical missile. and the Pioneer is a medium-range ballistic missile. They are not the same thing. When comparing the range, it will become clear to you which missile will reach where if it is installed in a certain place. The Pioneer was not originally intended to strike the continental United States. Another thing,
        "European, Asian and other friends of Washington". For Britain, for example, two such missiles were quite enough. Neither the Pershing nor the Pioneer fly along a flat trajectory. in this case, they are easily detected and easily destroyed by air defense and missile defense systems. If we talk about military theory, the Soviet military doctrine provided for both a preemptive nuclear strike against the enemy and a retaliatory strike against the enemy from constant combat readiness immediately after establishing the fact of launching missiles on the territory of the USSR. In other words, while enemy missiles were flying towards us, we must have time to launch your own. It looks real because. missiles in mine launchers can be launched from a state of constant combat readiness ("standby mode" at the command post of regiments) within 2-3 minutes. This "cools" hotheads even today. Both earlier and now the duty combat shifts of the launch of missile regiments are ready at any moment on command to suppress the threat of a nuclear war.

        The agreement on the limitation of the INF Treaty as it was signed 25 years ago. needs to be adjusted, both Russia and the United States understand this. Specialists are working on this (diplomats, analysts, scientists, military, etc., etc.). Therefore, it has not turned into a formality and still serves the main thing - limiting the nuclear arms race. It seems to me that all sorts of speculation about leaving one side or another from it is superfluous.
      11. 0
        5 September 2014 22: 42
        And ballistic missiles in Alaska? Expensive! It’s like a kosher flag ...
      12. 0
        3 February 2019 18: 52
        Scary already?
    3. 0
      25 October 2018 12: 33
      And put on about. Boiler room under the nose am !!
  4. 0
    4 September 2014 10: 53
    The initiator of the treaty was the Soviet Union, at that time everyone was worried that it was surrounded by short- and medium-range missiles, I remember - then it was constantly said on the news on television. the Americans could strike in a matter of minutes and there was not enough time to intercept the missiles. The retaliatory strike was only in Europe. So they left only strategic missiles - and diverted danger from the borders. And now the United States is again trying to surround us with rockets. So the withdrawal from the treaty will be useful only if our missiles also stand on the border with America.
    1. +3
      4 September 2014 12: 21
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      The initiator of the treaty was the Soviet Union, at that time everyone was worried that it was surrounded by short- and medium-range missiles, I remember - then it was constantly said on the news on television. the Americans could strike in a matter of minutes and there was not enough time to intercept the missiles. The retaliatory strike was only in Europe. So they left only strategic missiles - and diverted danger from the borders. And now the United States is again trying to surround us with rockets. So the withdrawal from the treaty will be useful only if our missiles also stand on the border with America.

      Oga, the Soviet Union, how come!
      A labeled bear was the initiator.
      The military were categorically against. (I know that I myself had to partially participate in the process - there were few words except obscene.)
      1. 0
        4 September 2014 18: 11
        Quote: Wheel
        The military were categorically against.

        Yes sir!
        And moreover, they offered all sorts of different options:
        type "carrier to carrier" (ie Pershing2 to Pioneer or R-12 / R-14)
        "Head to head"

        But, 3,14ndos had to bring the entire class of Pioneers to the root for a known reason, I wrote above - under some circumstances, the "Pioneer" could become an easy ICBM with a range of 10 thousand. Like "Temp-2C". And in these conditions, the Yankees simply could not calculate and isolate where the Pioneer RSD and where the ICBM. They were like twin brothers from above :))))
    2. 0
      4 September 2014 23: 11
      In the USSR and the USA, missile defense was built around the capital and 2-3 large administrative centers. the rest of the territory from a missile strike is not covered. Now the picture is the same. The task was posed differently: if the enemy struck, before their warheads fell on our territory, our missiles should also be launched and the mines empty. The locations of missile forces' units and units were chosen so that the delivery time of warheads to the target was minimal. The same was true for medium-range missiles, tactical and operational-tactical. The same principle was followed when choosing a position area for nuclear submarines with ballistic missiles (SSBNs) ) It is absolutely unnecessary to put rockets on the border with America and to withdraw from the treaty too.
  5. 0
    4 September 2014 11: 41
    20 years of sitting on the pope to ruin the entire military-industrial complex and think that we have friends around us, complete nonsense. Now we are reviewing the doctrine, finally it came to pass.
  6. 0
    4 September 2014 12: 36
    This question is a little off topic ... And the system of MLRS "SMERCH" was used by the Ukrop troops or the army of Novorossiya in the DPR or LPR? I'm sitting arguing with my boss on this issue =)
    1. 0
      4 September 2014 18: 06
      Quote: feel1990
      MLRS system "SMERCH"

      and there and there, as I understand it. Moreover, both the first and the militias, as they seized installations. But, dill was mainly hit "on the squares" and on civilian objects ...
  7. +1
    4 September 2014 12: 46
    As I understand it, RS-26 Frontier can solve the whole range of tasks that Pioneer solved
  8. +1
    4 September 2014 14: 01
    ..."Crown". The latter was a disguised garage with gates at both ends. During duty, the launchers of the Pioneer complex could call into such structures and wait for an order. Before starting with the help of squibs, the roof of the structure was to be reset, after which the complex design should be raised TPK with a rocket and carry out other preparatory operations. To mask the construction of the "Krona" equipped with electric furnaces. The construction with working furnaces in the infrared range had the same appearance as the Krona with the launcher inside

    There was no second gate in the "Pioneer", as well as pyro-cartridges for "throwing off" the roof, not to mention the ovens.
    The roof was moved by electric winches, and drove in with "ass".
    And in the winter, the most favorite entertainment for calculating the control system was to change the heater in the heater of the small cooling circuit (engine was constantly ready to start) ...
    1. 0
      4 September 2014 18: 03
      Quote: Moore
      There was no second gate in the "Pioneer", as well as pyro-cartridges for "throwing off" the roof, not to mention the ovens.

      Dear colleague, Cron and their types were a great many! So, there could well be such and all sorts of different;)
      By the way, veterans claim that the first Krona sculpted directly in the shelves ... So here ... :)))
      1. +1
        5 September 2014 05: 25
        Dear colleague, perhaps you are right, of course. When the guys from "Mirny" came with 15P642, they said so.
        But to "sculpt" the DBK unit with a quick method (and "Krona" - it is, isn't it?) Is beyond my understanding. Participation in the dismantling of "Cron" "Pioneer" - took, yes. We even sent them to the arsenal - iron, cables with winches, and cabinets.
        But then wagons with iron went from the east and with the commanding order to build storage facilities for auxiliary equipment from them. Are these repositories meant?
        1. 0
          5 September 2014 11: 18
          Quote: Moore
          When the guys from "Mirny" came with 15P642, they said so.

          So I understood - Irkutsk?;)

          As for "Kron" - it's more complicated here ...
          At the very beginning of their installations on the database, clear and specific technologies for their use were not yet known. And their structure and support were not final. Therefore, the "Crowns" did not go immediately. And the design documentation for them was also different. That is why at first they were made in the shelves. Then production was established at several enterprises (at different docks).
          1. +1
            5 September 2014 11: 46
            So I understood - Irkutsk?;)

            Far west ...))
            I can only say one thing: when L.I. Brezhnev came to our region in 1978 (open secret for those who know, right? smile) and he was shown a wonderful miracle, "Crowns" have already taken place.
            Maybe somewhere was different ...
            1. 0
              5 September 2014 22: 41
              And Krona did not show Brezhnev, only a speedy climb to the Malaya Zemlya (for those who are in the topic), but since 78 they were built according to one project without stoves (Siberia could not be warmed anyway), and with ordinary sliding roofs and one gate. And regimental Krona was never called a garage.
              And as for the gates, I remember that after SPM after the march when she didn’t reverse gear, the next division stupidly rolled in Krona with his hands, couldn’t push 543 maz, and landed the division’s l / s and rolled it.
    2. +1
      4 September 2014 22: 59
      You are absolutely right! We called "Kronu" among ourselves "Garage".
  9. pinecone
    +1
    4 September 2014 16: 35
    Quote: Wheel
    Quote: A resident of the Urals
    The initiator of the treaty was the Soviet Union, at that time everyone was worried that it was surrounded by short- and medium-range missiles, I remember - then it was constantly said on the news on television. the Americans could strike in a matter of minutes and there was not enough time to intercept the missiles. The retaliatory strike was only in Europe. So they left only strategic missiles - and diverted danger from the borders. And now the United States is again trying to surround us with rockets. So the withdrawal from the treaty will be useful only if our missiles also stand on the border with America.

    Oga, the Soviet Union, how come!
    A labeled bear was the initiator.
    The military were categorically against. (I know that I myself had to partially participate in the process - there were few words except obscene.)


    The loudest about the SS-20 missile system squealed s.uk.a. Thatcher. She then persuaded Misha the Sword to destroy this wonderful weapon system. In London they met repeatedly, he grazes there to this day.
    1. 0
      4 September 2014 21: 48
      And Reagan - the malicious snake I remember saliva sprayed - SS-20, SS-20, and they were like carnations in one place.
  10. 0
    4 September 2014 18: 39
    Modernization of this system is possible, and this is a little money and a massive commotion, now by the way.
  11. +3
    4 September 2014 18: 53
    And for the Americans, the reliability of the complex was a complete surprise. When the missiles were destroyed by "fire method", i.e. launched without nuclear warheads. And they all started and flew where they should. When all 9, one by one, start ... and don't fall, there was confusion and fear in their eyes. This is how the veterans told who participated in this.
  12. 0
    4 September 2014 19: 03
    I did not quite understand. The article first says that
    According to official figures, the 15Zh45 missile could deliver three individual warhead warheads to a range of up to 4700 km.
    , and what's next
    The flight range of the Pioneer missile is 5 kilometers.
    What to believe?
    If the launch range was 5 kilometers, why did it fall under reduction?
    If the launch range was 4 kilometers, what prevented the development and production of 700 pieces of a completely new and developed from scratch complex with two warheads and a launch range of more than 405 km?
    1. +2
      4 September 2014 19: 16
      Politics. I do not know the real performance characteristics of "Pioneer-UTTH". RC "Oka" also did not fit the terms of the contract, but it was also destroyed. Gorbachev was no longer interested in this, just to serve. Like Yeltsin. For ten years we have been messing with Topol-M, and now we have Yars, Rubezh, Sineva, Liner, Sarmat, and so on. As an officer, I am now proud of the country that these years of "disarmament" have passed.
    2. +2
      4 September 2014 20: 22
      What to believe?
      If the launch range was 5 kilometers, why did it fall under reduction?

      Under the treaty on the reduction of intermediate and shorter-range missiles, products with a guaranteed range of 500 to 5000 km were hit. Well, OKA (range 400 km.), A gift from the fool Gorbachev to the states.
    3. +2
      4 September 2014 20: 38
      4700 km-with 3 warheads. 5500-with 1 warheads
    4. 0
      5 September 2014 11: 31
      Quote: Assistant

      If the launch range was 5 500 kilometers,

      Yes sir!
      and behind the "plus-minus" area of ​​the spread of the warhead with individual guidance.
      Complexes 15P645, 15П645К and 15Ж653 (UTTX)
      and developed by "Pioneer-3" 15P157 - all belonged to the RSD.
      Accordingly, we went under the knife. As well as the "non-deployed" kind of "Temp-2S" 15P642 - "Ghost Division".
      Miraculously, we managed to get out of this the development of "Poplar" ...
  13. 0
    4 September 2014 20: 17
    He dreamed of serving at the Pioneer. Did not have time.
    1. +1
      4 September 2014 20: 42
      I had the honor to serve (1978-1994) in the 396th missile regiment (Petrikov, Belarus), which was the first to be on combat duty in 1976 at the Pioneer complex. In American terminology - "The Flying Dutchman".
      Unfortunately, in 1988 he himself participated in liquidation activities.
      Cool.
      We sit (1987) on the command post of the regiment, we are on duty. Over the loudspeaker communication with the command post of the division, the sudden question "Are the roofs of the Crones open?" CDS and I looked at each other. By the tone of the question, we understood that the answer must be affirmative. Although the roofs were moved, the answer was yes. Later on TV we watch Gorbachev's speech, who says that the Americans can see for themselves that all the missiles are at the RPM. We understood why there was a question.
      We had to demonstrate to the American reconnaissance satellites the presence of missiles at the RPM. True, one caveat. The regiment at that time was in field positions and the "Krones" were empty.
      This is how I had to "participate" in big politics.
      PS
      "Krona" - the building where the "Pioneers" stood at the PPD.
      PPD - point of permanent deployment
      KDS - the commander of the duty forces
  14. Oblozelo
    +1
    4 September 2014 21: 56
    to the Author of the publication ...
    re-read what you publish ... repeatedly.
    "upper stages" are not for starting, they are for acceleration
    I saw the forty-fifth car with my own eyes.
  15. +4
    4 September 2014 22: 07
    Regarding the range of the Pioneers. Being a young lieutenant and having access to the missile forms of the division, we calculated the maximum ranges for their missiles, 5200, 6700 8100. (For those who doubted the form, they indicated the mass of fuel, burning speed, energy. For different missiles, these figures are different - how it turned out.)
    The complexes were very reliable, well-managed. I remember that with an accuracy of plus or minus 20 minutes I could program a malfunction (PNK for those who are in the subject) to leave the drill and other army troubles. Mainly due to DPA and other features of PST-TK, but without lowering BG. As the head of the calculation of the SPU launcher score is excellent. The complex was rapidly improved, not as an example of the introduction of our new missile systems. I had to put both kompleks and 45 and 53 on the database. By the way, 53 lost the quick ability to transfer to 42 missiles. But I don’t agree on the scatter of the support belts: when starting up 53 products after start-up, everything lay in 50-60 meters (he assembled it, after folding). And I privatized a cable from a cap wink
    Behind the Urals, the "Krona" were all with sliding roofs - that's for sure. And I also know about the complexes of metal collective farm hangars (without sliding roofs), which neatly completely included the division. Yes, and he could be transported both under its own power and by rail, and by air.
    These missile systems, despite the speed of creation, were very thought out over the entire range of missions for their combat use, although the couplers for mounting the units on the railway platform were twisted with wire.
    I recall with pride the very high level of combat training of the entire personnel of the missile divisions.
    The article is a big plus: it’s nice to recall youth, but there is also a minus - as in most of these articles, much is said about the performance characteristics, but very little about the possibilities of combat use and operational parameters: routine maintenance, troubleshooting, difficulties in preparing personnel for use of this technique.
    1. +1
      5 September 2014 07: 50
      Regarding the range of the Pioneers. Being a young lieutenant and having access to the missile forms of the division, we calculated the maximum ranges for their missiles, 5200, 6700 8100. (For those who doubted the form, they indicated the mass of fuel, burning speed, energy. For different missiles, these figures are different - how it turned out.)

      the mass of fuel, burning rate, energy were indicated apparently for calculating corrections for the range, but the range machine (it may be called differently on the Pioneer) was probably designed for the maximum tabular range for each type of warhead. I served on another complex, but there is a lot in common ...
      1. +1
        5 September 2014 11: 46
        Quote: Good
        but the range machine (it may be called differently on the Pioneer) was probably designed for the maximum tabular range

        On the Pioneers (and other missiles with TTRD), the range is worked out somewhat differently: TTRD is poorly regulated in terms of thrust, therefore, they proceed from the fact that it reaches the maximum speed in a certain time and cut off the engine (or translate to "zero increment") ...
    2. 0
      5 September 2014 11: 41
      Quote: andr327
      Regarding the range of the Pioneers. As a young lieutenant and having access to the missile forms of the division, we calculated the ultimate ranges for their missiles, 5200, 6700 8100. (

      ... dear colleague, there is nothing surprising in this! :)

      After all, it is quite obvious that the maximum range depends on the thrust, the amount of fuel and the "withdrawn cargo". So in "skillful hands" (for example, the Sevkoreans), the Pioneer range can be "extended" to the intercontinental ...

      The only thing for the maximum range for the complex is the one that was achieved by standard equipment when starting up to the maximum range of one of the selected samples ....
      1. +1
        5 September 2014 22: 53
        So no one argues. The designers set a range that any product would be guaranteed to fulfill.
        By this principle, and Poplar can be transferred to the BRDS, make your head heavier
  16. +2
    4 September 2014 23: 36
    and here are some photos of the real 53 complex (Thanks to the commander, Major General Chertkov!)
  17. +2
    4 September 2014 23: 38
    unit 15u136
  18. +2
    4 September 2014 23: 40
    the warmest machine MDESka 15n1061
  19. +1
    4 September 2014 23: 41
    The famous SPU 15U136
  20. 0
    5 September 2014 00: 29
    1. What is the "badge" on the right side? Support?
    2. Why is the support belt made of titanium? Did you save weight?
    3. "Crohn" with heating elements against the background of a forest or other objects should shine with a bright light ... Doesn't this give away the location?
    1. 0
      5 September 2014 11: 48
      Quote: The Cat
      The crown "with heating elements against the background of a forest or other objects should shine with a bright light ...

      That is why there are "means of disguise and creation of false targets" ...
  21. +1
    5 September 2014 00: 59
    humpbacked guilty of everything, made a gift to the Americans and the West. judge and hang him.
  22. +1
    5 September 2014 05: 04
    Quote: The Cat
    1. What is the "badge" on the right side? Support?
    3. "Crohn" with heating elements against the background of a forest or other objects should shine with a bright light ... Doesn't this give away the location?

    1. "Blamba" - the upper targeting system device.
    3. The location of "Kron" has never been a special secret - this is a point of permanent deployment, which is perfectly visible even in Google Map (for the "vigilant" - the object of the "Topol" DBK in the photo no longer exists). Although I have not seen any stoves ...
  23. +1
    5 September 2014 09: 31
    good photo
    1. 0
      5 September 2014 22: 57
      the photo is not bad, I didn’t have such clouds at the launch, the exhaust was at the level of EURO-4.
      This is clearly not a mortar launch rocket.
  24. 0
    5 September 2014 11: 31
    Moore - thanks
  25. 0
    5 September 2014 12: 16
    C'mon, don't be discouraged. RS-26 Frontier is a worthy replacement for Pioneer
  26. 0
    6 September 2014 17: 09
    And yet, our leaders + negotiators gave slack adversary in the negotiations. And mediocre destroyed good complexes without any benefit for the further use of individual components. Not the smartest solutions ....
  27. 0
    16 October 2016 00: 35
    At Tempe-2s and Pioneer, the index of the DN 1 level is the same