Lockheed Losing Hope

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After losing the ten billionth bid for the supply of 126 medium-sized fighters for the Indian Air Force, aircraft manufacturers from America decided to go for broke. They offered Delhi modern generation 5 machines.

US media only say that Lockheed Martin concern may again become a participant in the Indian tender, since they provided instead of the F-161N Super Viper, which did not reach the final, a completely different aircraft - the F-35 Lightning II. So the overseas defense giant, who flew out with the MMRCA, tried to return.

Barren promises.

"Lightings" are offered to Indians for the second time. Lockheed has already promised the Indian military the creation of favorable conditions in future purchases of F-35, wanting to persuade Delhi to buy a new modernization of F-16. But the Super Viper was defeated in the competition. But promises in the future to get an aircraft that was not yet worked out, in exchange for the F-16's adoption by the Indian Air Force, were not successful. Lockheed now raises stakes, replaying the situation.

If we reject the unfinished and abnormal price, even for the US budget, then the F-35 is a promising machine. Examining it through the prism of an Indian tender, it becomes interesting because initially the developers planned the deck-based vehicles. This feature is among the competitive requirements for cars.

It is clear that the pilots of the Indian Navy will not fly only on one deck machine. This is against the rules of a policy that has already taken shape in Delhi. Obviously, someone else will be added to our MiG-29K. Experts suggest that the choice will stop on a special version of the Eurofighter Typhoon. The basis for this assumption is the probability of the promise of a European consortium of aircraft manufacturers joining from India to the design of Eurofighter.

In this regard, the F-35 is quite competitive, but apparently it was offered in an unnecessary format. It later emerged that India does not intend to consider the late F-35 nomination for the tender. Representatives of the military departments of India say that the composition of the finalists has already been approved, and it will be unfair to include another participant who did not pass the selection procedures, like others. The Indian representative of the Ministry of Defense, Sitanshu Kara, said: “The tender has progressed strongly, and the appearance of any newcomer on it is late” (quote from Financial Times).

The F-35 has one remaining loophole to India - India’s desire to create a fifth-generation lightweight fighter AMCA. But here there are some essential conditions. The program provides a considerable set of "native" Indian production and development. It is unlikely that this project will be redone for the purchase of a finished Lockheed Martin machine.

Our and not our problems

To create a lightweight Indian fighter 5-th generation, it is necessary to solve one simple question: with whom to create it? Do not take into account the fact that in India most of the 5 generation market is occupied by Russia. This is a FGFA project representing the unique localization of our PAK FA. On which side do not come, but the countries that can technically support the ambitions of India, only two - the United States and Russia.

The following considerations matter. It would seem that to diversify technology providers, to reduce the risk of possible losses is what the Indian military needs. By this logic, the choice of F-35 for an FGFA pair is obvious. However, the United States has an aircraft that has not been fully delivered until the end, but Russia has nothing to offer now, but that’s even better.

The whole hitch is that for the AMCA project, the Indians want to provide their own development, even if they borrow individual nodes, and not to buy ready-made solutions and localizations. US reluctant to transfer their documentation and technology for military equipment. In this case, the Indians demand exactly know-how.

It is possible to repeat stories at the MMRCA competition, when Americans struggled to support their manufacturers, who wanted to sell Delhi almost the entire technological process and related production for 10 billion dollars.

Will Russia be able to successfully use such a potentially winning situation? At the moment, our military-industrial complex does not have a machine suitable for the required format. And most importantly, it is unclear whether it will be at least in perspective. This segment of the aircraft industry was last updated at the end of the 80-s, when the avant-project of the LPI 4.12 was developed to replace the MiG-29. But he was forgotten, all forces were thrown to the heavier then the MiG 1.42 / 1.44 line, which unsuccessfully competed with the Sukhoi Design Bureau projects for the right to become a machine for the PAK FA program at sunset 1990's.

Indeed, selling technological illiquid assets and remaining competencies of developers and scientists is a new way to support engineering schools, preserve and strengthen them for the future. Our aircraft manufacturers create the same strange R & D for the defense complex with China. Why not cooperate in the same way with India, which is traditionally open for the import of know-how.
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  1. Cedric
    +4
    8 July 2011 08: 42
    India will not step on the same rake a second time, I remember the United States shut off oxygen to it in the field of military weapons, after nuclear tests.
    In this regard, the United States is an unreliable partner, and it will be more expensive to contact him for the most part.
  2. 0
    8 July 2011 14: 50
    I look Raptor is not needed by anyone ... I don’t need it !!!! they don’t even offer it.
  3. 0
    8 July 2011 15: 15
    hehe ... that’s not all ... our peers and ancestors handed them the rig Vedas for knowledge ...
  4. BVB
    BVB
    0
    9 July 2011 17: 47
    Our aircraft manufacturers create strange R&D for the defense complex with China. Why not cooperate in the same way with India, which is traditionally open to import know-how.


    Only a person who has never worked with the Chinese and Hindus can say and write this.

    The first - instantly react and are not afraid to do something wrong. Of course, their goal is the same: getting know-how and actually ending cooperation. The prospect is not very interesting, but it brings instant benefits.

    The second - set unthinkable conditions for joint work, initially making tenders long and without any hope of their positive completion.

    There are of course exceptions. But as for the military-industrial complex - I see no exceptions ...
  5. 916-th
    +3
    11 July 2011 14: 19
    To our great regret, the "fighter tandem" heavy "Su" + medium "MiG" that took shape in Russia in the 80s and 90s is turning into the Su monopoly before our very eyes. Firm "Mig", with the departure of Pogasyan and the infusion into the UAC, is withering before our eyes. According to the idea, RSK "MiG" was supposed to develop a medium / light fighter of the 5th generation, but, apparently, it was not destined ...

    Although the need for a lighter and cheaper fighter-5, of course there is. In the event of a serious conflict (rather than a local turmoil), heavy and expensive 5 cars will be lost in any case in the first place. Therefore, cheaper fighters are needed, which can be produced in droves to make up for the inevitable losses.

    There are a lot of requirements for the 5th generation - stealth, over-maneuverability, cruising supersonic, hidden weapons, etc. In my opinion, this formula can be reduced to two components - cheap and cheerful.
  6. 916-th
    0
    11 July 2011 14: 35
    As an option, to make a joint project of the medium fighter-5 "MiG" + "Yak" and the F-35 will be in Obama's deep black ass.
    1. MichaelVl
      0
      11 July 2011 21: 41
      Well, you turned 916th :))))) I’ve lifted my mood right now, I just got too sleepy :))) I agree with you about the MiG. Here’s an office ... But, hope dies last !! ;)
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  8. 0
    27 November 2012 14: 20
    The Hindus are insolent. They seem to want to get technology for nothing. I don’t want to praise the Americans, but their F-16s and F-18s are good cars. The same with the Russian MiG and Su. Why are they showing off. They themselves will not be able to produce analogues. And where are they 5 generations. They would take proven Russian planes and rejoice that they didn’t fly on 21 MiGs at all. So they still put onerous conditions.