Pistol Hino-Kamuro (Hino-Komuro)

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Pistol Hino-Kamuro (Hino-Komuro)


Japanese pistols are quite interesting in terms of design and appearance, and very often they do not resemble the typical features of a European short-barreled gun. weapons. The Hino Komuro pistol is no exception.

Weapons developed in 1904 year, the lieutenant of the Japanese army Kumaso Hino (Kumazo Hino). Financed the project Tomishiro Komuro (Tomijiro Komuro) at the factory which was launched production. Because of this, the gun got its name Hino-Komuro.



The Hino Komuro pistol had characteristics that distinguish it externally from most self-loading pistols. Hino-Kamuro lacked the usual trigger guard, the handle cheeks had a protrusion in the front upper part and closed the frame right up to the trigger. The end of the barrel with a notch on the surface a few centimeters protruded from the base of the frame.



The first patent for their gun Kumazo Hino (Kumazo Hino) and Tomishiro Komuro (Tomijiro Komuro) received 23 September 1904 of the year, followed by 7 February 1908 of the year. The US patent number 886211 was obtained on April 28 of the year 1908. Very often, the title of the gun make a postscript, which indicates that this is the model 1908 of the year - Hino Komuro M1908.



In the gun Hino-Kamuro used very rarely used principle of operation. Automatic pistol uses the energy of the bullet, which during the shot crashes into the grooves of the barrel and carries the moving barrel forward. Recoil energy in this scheme is not used at all. A similar principle of operation of the automation was applied a little earlier in the Steyr-Mannlicher M1894 pistol.



The frame of the gun consisted of a handle, cylindrical and octagonal upper parts and the back of a rectangular cross section.

For cocking a gun, Hino-Kamuro needed to pull the moving barrel forward. In the cocked pistol, the protruding portion of the barrel protruding from the base of the frame is significantly longer than that of the non cocked pistol.



Under the trigger is an automatic safety device that blocks the trigger on the cocked weapon.



Schematically, the device of the Hino-Kamuro pistol (Hino Komuro) is as follows (on the left in the diagram shows the pistol in disassembled form, on the right - the assembled weapon). The gun is fairly simple in design and quite technologically advanced in terms of manufacturing.



The Hino-Kamuro pistol (Hino Komuro) at the bottom of the handle on the front surface had an extended magazine release lever. On the back of the handle was a hole for attaching the pistol strap ring.



Schemes of the patent clearly demonstrate the work of the parts and mechanisms of the pistol at the time of cocking and firing.



At the moment of cocking, when the shooter was pushing to the extreme forward position of the barrel, the cartridge was captured by a special feeder and brought in line with the axis of the barrel bore. After the shooter released the barrel, he moved in the opposite direction under the action of the return spring, while the cartridge was sent to the chamber, and the barrel stood on a combat platoon.



To fire a shot, it was necessary to first press the safety lever to unlock the trigger, and then the trigger itself. In this case, the sear went down, and the barrel fell from the platoon.



Under the action of a reciprocating spring, the barrel with a cartridge in the chamber rushed to the extreme rear position and the cartridge primer nakalivaet on the stationary drummer rigidly fixed in the frame - a shot occurred. After the shot, under the action of the energy of the bullet, which crashed into the grooves of the barrel bore, the barrel rushed forward, the sleeve was removed upwards through the window in the frame, and another cartridge was sent. The disengagement occurred due to the rear protrusion of the trunk, which, when moving forward, affected the rear protrusion of the trigger.





Hino Komuro pistol sights (Hino Komuro) consisted of rounded front and rear sight mounted on the top of the frame.



Hino-Kamuro was produced in several calibers: 6,35 Browning, 7,65 mm Browning, 8 mm Nambu, and even used 5 mm cartridges. The gun, chambered for the 7,65 Browning, had a magazine capacity of 8 cartridges, a total length of 256 mm, a barrel length of 202 mm, a mass without 820 cartridges gram.



A diamond-shaped notch rounded at the bottom and pointed at the top was applied to the cheeks of the Hino Komuro pistol grip.



Hino-Kamuro Pistol Store was very similar to the P-08 Parabellum pistol store, thanks to the cylindrical bottom. The difference was the recess for the retainer, located at the bottom of the front of the store.



The lower part of the Hino Komuro handle had a hollow under the cylindrical base of the magazine, as well as the P-08 Parabellum. Probably this notch was on one of the variants of the pistol, perhaps on the pistols of a later release. The cheeks of the handle of these guns are secured with two screws.



On the schemes of the patent and on some other pistols there are no recesses in the lower part of the handle under the cylindrical part of the magazine. The cheeks of the handle of these pistols are fixed with just one screw located at the trigger. In addition, the shape of the upper part of the notch on the surface of the cheeks of the handle is not pointed, but almost rectangular.





On the side surfaces of the frame of the pistol, exhibited at one gun auction, are hieroglyphs, the meaning of which suggests that they planned to use weapons in the naval forces.

Kumazo Hino (Kumazo Hino) and Tomishiro Komuro (Tomijiro Komuro) hoped to develop a pistol for the Japanese army and get a military order, but as often happens, fate decreed otherwise. The gun did not suit the military, who considered this weapon insufficiently reliable from the point of view of security. The advantage of a pistol was a long barrel, which, thanks to an unusual layout, slightly increased the total length of the weapon. Thanks to this, the target range was very decent.



The absence of the trigger guard, the unreliable operation of the fuse, the location of the magazine retainer lever on the front side of the handle, significant recoil when fired, all these flaws in the gun caused the lack of commercial success of the Hino Komuro pistol. In 1912, the release of pistols was discontinued.

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  1. +8
    16 July 2014 07: 56
    Thanks for the article, I refreshed what I had read a long time ago. Normal Japanese design, using the available developments of European models of pistols. Both externally (Mannlicher) and structurally (Steyer-Mannlicher, Luger). Outwardly, it is very similar to the "Nambu" (by the way, the store mount is the same). And here is "Mannlicher":
    1. +7
      16 July 2014 13: 19
      Quote: inkass_98
      Thank you for the article

      And fat plus! good
      In childhood, we used to harp single-shot self-propelled guns, but did not know what the "Japanese technology" smile
      Under the action of a recoil spring, the barrel with the cartridge in the chamber rushed to the extreme rear position and the cartridge cap nakaluya on a drummer rigidly fixed in the frame - a shot occurred.

      We had a rubber band instead of a spring.
      And the role of a drummer was performed by a nut directed in the direction of the barrel with an edge.
      The barrel was made from a tube from the bed back.
      Cartridges used construction.
      Charged with balls from the linings and plugged with a piece of cloth, so as not to fall out.
      The pistol frame came from a metal pistol shooting pistons: it consisted of two halves.
      We disassembled it, took out the extra insides and assembled our "conversion kit".
      All this was wrapped with tape.
      EH ... To die now from this !!!
    2. 0
      16 July 2014 17: 59
      he has the same automation?
      1. +1
        16 July 2014 18: 28
        Quote: mirag2
        he has the same automation?

        The Steyr Mannlicher M1901 design with a longitudinal sliding gate and a fixed barrel, while the Hino-Komuro, on the contrary, is mobile.
        So they can hardly be called similar in design.

        And at Mannlicher M1894, the mechanics work principle is really similar:
        for the operation of the mechanisms, the friction force of the bullet is used when plunging it in and moving along the grooves.
        Under the action of this force, the barrel moves forward, freeing up space for the filing of the next cartridge.


        Mannlicher M1894

        .
    3. +1
      16 July 2014 20: 39
      The described trunk is structurally completely different from both the Manlicher you showed and the parabellum. Outwardly similar (adjusted for the Japanese style of painting). In my deepest conviction, it’s hard to come up with anything else uglier than the Japanese small arms (this is like Valeria Ilinishna, although, unlike the majority of the inhabitants of the site, I personally respect the respected for firmness of views and integrity, rarely agreeing with them; Novodvorskaya was only a private person who had the right to think and say anything, but the fact that she, as a monkey for whipping, was invited to various shows by the lady’s personal guilt was less than the intention of the organizers, who had long since cut through the audience’s dislike for an ugly woman trying the whole world under redo yourself).
    4. anomalocaris
      0
      18 July 2014 16: 02
      Actually, this Manliher arr. In 1905 he had quite the usual mechanics for a free shutter. Although Manlicher himself considered him semi-free ...
      The forward-moving barrel had a slightly earlier specimen.
  2. ramsi
    +2
    16 July 2014 08: 05
    I always liked a similar scheme of the automation for the gun, I even consider it the only correct one, but it should be very hemorrhoid with the supply of cartridges and the release of cartridges
    1. +2
      16 July 2014 11: 35
      Quote: ramsi
      I always liked a similar scheme of the automation for the gun, I even consider it the only correct one

      Yes, the scheme is very interesting, but it is difficult to agree with the only correct one. In addition to possible difficulties with feeding cartridges and extracting cartridges, I saw one more potential minus - when firing, there is a shift of masses (the barrel rolls to its extreme rear position), which most likely negatively affects accuracy. Again ergonomics - to reload you need to pull the barrel, for this you need to turn the barrel away from the line of sight, which is not good. Again, how to reload a gun if the barrel is warmed up, all the more I don’t think that to fire the barrel you need to take a lot of shots. Small notches on the trunk, essen, make it easier to extend the trunk with your fingers, but if they are clogged? even if they are not clogged, the cartridge has jammed in the chamber and it is necessary to cock the barrel again, I think there will be problems. And again, time has shown which scheme is most optimal for pistols — the John Moses Browning system for serious ammunition and the free-gate system for low-powered ammunition.
      1. ramsi
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        16 July 2014 11: 59
        I meant "similar" - not in the sense that the barrel is on a combat platoon, but, nevertheless, a drummer, with a fixed common rear. After that, when fired, the sleeve is pushed back, but there is only free play forward ... In my opinion, this is the maximum possible from the conditions for the optimal position of the weapon before the bullet leaves the barrel
        1. 0
          16 July 2014 20: 53
          At the time of the shot, before the bullet leaves the bore, the sleeve is inflated. With a sufficiently strong charge (or a sufficiently long barrel), the sleeve can rupture if the extraction of the sleeve from the chamber begins immediately. With this is connected the transition to the current schemes of the pistol, which at one time competed with many others.
        2. anomalocaris
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          19 July 2014 03: 21
          Well, there were such. Even mass produced. For example, the Schwarzlose of 1908.
          However, for all the temptation of the scheme, it has inherent flaws that are extremely difficult to overcome. Firstly, the restriction on the power of the cartridge. An exception is the Moshchevitin rifle arr. 1934. Secondly, an extremely unpleasant return. When fired, recoil pushes the pistol back, but then follows a blow of a very massive barrel against the frame, which seeks to tear the weapon out of hand.
          You can still pick up the little things, so this scheme did not become not only the main, but at least somehow widespread.
      2. 52
        0
        16 July 2014 16: 40
        Here with accuracy, yes, dividing-vie-de-hrenovi. Quite decently, who did (and there are specialists from childhood), they can remember.
        1. ramsi
          +1
          16 July 2014 17: 52
          I did not understand the comment: the whole recoil momentum is directed backward, all the moving masses are forward, the time spread is more theoretical; where am i lying? ..
          1. anomalocaris
            0
            23 July 2014 15: 58
            Yes, you, in general, understand very little.
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  3. yan
    +4
    16 July 2014 08: 23
    Wonderful material, good illustrations and videos, many thanks to the author
    1. +1
      16 July 2014 11: 37
      I agree with you, the author did a good job, the article is wonderful.
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  4. +3
    16 July 2014 08: 26
    the Japanese have a peculiar and distinctive design vision of small arms. Very insular, I would say. Maybe this gun is good, but somehow it looks really ridiculous.
  5. avt
    +4
    16 July 2014 09: 48
    Article good Chic, the material is excellent!
    Quote: Kushadasov
    the Japanese have a peculiar and distinctive design vision of small arms. Very insular, I would say

    Well, what can I add? Just repeat - the Japanese from any sex will make a tea ceremony, and we will make a sex from any tea ceremony. I like the second closer. laughing
  6. +3
    16 July 2014 10: 50
    At the age of 15 he did exactly the same according to his drawings about the Japanese and did not know at first it seemed mine was found laughing then relieved laughing Nah, not mine laughing
    1. -FROM-
      0
      16 July 2014 11: 52
      That's just what the Japanese found. )))
  7. 0
    16 July 2014 12: 56
    Funny gun! Interestingly, you can’t burn your fingers (jerking the barrel when cocking) during heavy shooting, the barrel was probably warming up, it’s not sickly?
    1. ramsi
      0
      16 July 2014 13: 09
      automatic pestle! Intense shooting is only possible at the shooting range.
  8. +1
    16 July 2014 13: 25
    The pistol fired under the 7,65 Browning cartridge had a magazine capacity of 8 cartridges, a total length of 256 mm, a barrel length of 202 mm, and an empty weight of 820 grams.
    It’s too heavy for such a cartridge.
  9. +1
    16 July 2014 14: 28
    Shooting Katana.
  10. +2
    16 July 2014 14: 50
    Interesting bagpipe. Very simple. But certainly very gimoroynaya. When cocked, the barrel length is different. those. with a cartridge in the chamber is not like. it will not climb into a holster. Recharge, with two fingers for the barrel ... and if the hand is sweaty, and if the fingers are weak, and if injured. In general, pliers should be carried with you. But is there an opportunity to defuse a gun without a shot? I personally did not see such an opportunity. Although, in principle, it can twist the firing pin. then all the more pliers are needed. And if during operation the trigger tooth is earned, then when reloading a shot is inevitable. Thank you very much for the article.
    1. 0
      16 July 2014 18: 02
      Quote: Free Wind
      Recharge, with two fingers for the barrel ... and if the hand is sweaty, and if the fingers are weak, and if injured

      This is what!
      The American M3A1 submachine gun did not have a shutter handle, it cocked with a finger inserted into a special hole in the shutter. And if the soldier is wearing gloves? laughing After all, in winter, too, sometimes you have to fight.
  11. 0
    16 July 2014 17: 10
    Interesting article comments are funny! Only a plus!
  12. +2
    16 July 2014 17: 47
    Automatic fuses built into the handle did not justify themselves due to the high sensitivity to contamination. For the same reason, the system with the barrel moving forward was not widespread.
    It is not surprising that the gun "did not suit the military." I agree with them.
    It is quite suitable as a sports weapon. But not like an army.
    1. anomalocaris
      0
      19 July 2014 03: 34
      Automatic fuses built into the handle did not justify themselves due to the high sensitivity to contamination.

      You're wrong. With proper execution, a fully functional design. It is enough to recall such units as the Colt M1911, DP-27, Browning arr 1910 ... Another conversation is that, like any other technical solution, it has both pros and cons.
  13. Everest2014
    +1
    16 July 2014 18: 09
    But it looks elegant. Minimalistic such a gun.
  14. 0
    16 July 2014 18: 15
    And you imagine the process of reloading, pulling quickly for the hot barrel ... Burns are guaranteed.
  15. Everest2014
    0
    16 July 2014 21: 04
    Quote: Tankist_1980
    And you imagine the process of reloading, pulling quickly for the hot barrel ... Burns are guaranteed.

    The Japanese were never fools - the tricky gadget in the kit for reloading was coming, I think.
  16. padonok.71
    +1
    17 July 2014 09: 05
    The Japs traditionally do not get along with a firearm, which they will not make is laughter through tears. Some curiosities. Let them be better at making katanas with mythical properties and bamboo armor that "hold the bullet".
    1. anomalocaris
      0
      23 July 2014 15: 56
      Well, as usual with PADONS, they don’t know a damn thing. But Arisaka 1908 is a very suitable rifle. You should study the baby. But after that broadcast about Yap.
  17. 0
    17 July 2014 18: 22
    Well, not really, often there are very interesting designs from a technical point of view, to recall at least the SHV TYPE 64 - and its extremely original trigger, which, when the chamber is warmed up to a certain temperature, automatically switches to firing from the rear sear.
  18. padonok.71
    0
    17 July 2014 23: 04
    This?
    Monsieur knows a lot about perversions ....
  19. padonok.71
    0
    17 July 2014 23: 07
    By the way, I do not see the topic about the ZIG. The author deleted and shot himself in shame?
  20. 0
    18 July 2014 00: 41
    Yavol, that's it
  21. 0
    18 July 2014 00: 53
    Hammer on a zig we’ll go better in the topic about assault.
  22. +3
    19 July 2014 01: 35
    Japanese pistols are quite interesting in terms of design, appearance and very often do not look like typical features of European short-barreled weapons.
    Yes, yes: they don’t look very strong.

    The similarity with Manliher immediately noticed that it is interesting, and in appearance too. Is this the result of the same approach to the design of automation or the borrowing of experience (let's call it that)?

    Many thanks to the author. Cyril, is that you?