Are there any prospects for the Ukrainian military-industrial complex?

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June 16, the new president of Ukraine, Poroshenko, in connection with the well-known events that are taking place in the south-eastern regions of the country, has banned further cooperation of the Ukrainian defense industry complex with the Russian one. Experts have different assessments of the chances for the further development of the Ukrainian defense-industrial complex.

After the assignment of the head of state is completed, the Ukrainian defense industry, according to the estimates of some experts, will lose only 15 percent of annual exports, which is about 300 million dollars. In the opinion of Ukrainian specialists, a break in relations between the two states will not bring catastrophic consequences for the provision of Ukrainian armed forces. Even more, they are sure, the Ukrainian defense industry may even win in the future.

But first things first. After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine inherited about a third of the allied military production facilities. The structure of the Ukrainian defense industry consisted of almost 3600 enterprises that employed more than 3 millions of people. Approximately 700 enterprises engaged in the production of exclusively military products, and more than thousands, in addition to weapons and military equipment, were engaged in the production of dual-use or civilian goods. Ukraine inherited a third of the Soviet space industry as a legacy. In the space industry was involved about 140 enterprises. From 20 types of missiles that were produced in the USSR, 12 were designed and manufactured in Ukraine.

In Ukrainian aviation 39 enterprises, 11 aircraft repair plants are involved in the industry.

After the end of the Cold War, some of the enterprises were reduced. Those enterprises that were engaged in the production of civilian products were privatized and turned into corporations. However, they didn’t have enough experience in the market conditions, so production stopped and the factories became bankrupt.

To this day, only a small part of Ukrainian enterprises that were engaged in the production of military products have survived. According to the Ministry of Harrow, currently in Ukraine there are 162 enterprises of the military-industrial complex. That part of them, which remained in state ownership, kept afloat due to the few state defense orders, from time to time receiving export contracts. It is quite obvious that this was enough only to not collapse completely, and it is absolutely not enough to ensure the work of all employees. A vivid example of this is the state enterprise Antonov, which previously collected up to 200 airplanes annually, and is now capable of collecting about five.

To date, experts say, it is quite clear that it is pointless to focus on Ukraine on the legacy of the former USSR. Ukrainian defense enterprises are engaged in fragmentary production of weapons and military equipment, they are dependent on foreign supplies of components, primarily Russian. Over the years, experts have repeatedly pointed out the existing problems, but now they are confident that it is too late to talk about the holistic development of the Ukrainian defense industry complex. Therefore, it makes sense to focus on the development of those individual areas that have certain prospects.

And such directions exist. This is primarily the production of armored vehicles, radar systems, aircraft missiles.

Currently, foreign firms are greatly interested in the Cyclone launch vehicle, which is designed to launch middle-class satellites. Antonov Design Bureau presented several of its new developments, in particular, An-140 and An-70, which have already declared themselves to be the most competitive machines in their class. Motor Sich manufactures engines for An-24, An-32 and An-26 aircraft, Mi-8, Ka-25 and Mi-24 helicopters, which are in large quantities in service with many countries.

One of the advantages of the military-industrial complex is the fact that Ukraine has received a wide network of research centers, among which are developments in the field of electronics and cybernetics, laser technology, and radar stations for detecting unobtrusive targets. Ukrainian enterprises have a great potential in the field of modernization of Soviet weapons, which even now is in service with many countries of the world.

Thanks to all these areas, Ukrspetsexport, a monopolist in the Ukrainian market of armaments and military equipment, annually receives more than one billion dollars in revenue, and the state occupies high positions in the list of countries-exporters of armaments. At the same time, these figures are an order of magnitude less than what, potentially, according to a number of experts, the Ukrainian defense industry can bring. Therefore, in order to prevent the bankruptcy of the majority of Ukrainian defense enterprises, the Ukroboronprom concern (2011) was created.

The concern included 134 enterprises - state and joint-stock companies, which were state-owned. It soon turned out that for normal operation they lacked markets and money. The problem of a shortage of money was solved by redirecting the excess profit of some successful industries to the needs of those who had financial difficulties. The second problem was solved due to the fact that Ukraine took a permanent part in various international military exhibitions. The concern represented the interests of all its participants, even those who produced small volumes of products. Thus, a mass effect was created, which brought its results, and very quickly. Two years later, Ukroboronprom enterprises paid almost half of their wage arrears. Concern production volumes increased by 24 percent (compared to 2012 year) and amounted to more than 13 billion hryvnia. Some factories at the expense of large external contracts were able to increase production several times. So, for example, GAKH “Artem” increased production volumes by 7 times (to 2,2 billion hryvnias), “Zavod im. Malysheva "- a quarter (to 302 million hryvnia).

Thus, experts say, the Ukrainian military industry is currently able to compete in the foreign market in such areas as the development and production of aircraft (An-70), as well as the modernization of combat aircraft; cooperative manufacturing of warships, gas turbines, and other ship equipment; development, production and modernization of rocket space complexes and devices, processing of military missiles for civilian purposes, participation in satellite launches; development of promising models of military equipment and weapons, conducting research; carrying out repair work and modernization of Soviet equipment and weapons.

At the same time, the Ukrainian government needs to think about how to solve existing problems, in particular, reduce too high production costs, solve problems of insufficient financing and ensure sufficient volumes of state defense orders.

If the problem of high production costs is now partially solved by introducing energy-saving technologies and saving labor through the use of new machines, then with two other problems is not so simple.

As for the financial side of the issue, it should be noted that the state program for reforming and developing the defense industrial complex, calculated up to 2017 of the year (which, by the way, was developed under Yanukovych), implies the need to invest more than 10 billion hryvnias to modernize the industry. Of these funds, more than 6,5 billion was planned to be transferred to the needs of Ukroboronprom. At the same time, the budget supposed to allocate only about 3 billions, the remaining funds should come at the expense of loans and private financial investments, as well as the sale of surplus property of certain enterprises. However, due to the difficult situation in the country, the government cannot submit this money. Therefore, the concern is losing ground in the global arms export market. In addition, the concern’s management decided that it was necessary to restructure more than 40 enterprises where production was stopped due to inexpediency. Most of the concern’s enterprises have surplus assets, including land that was planned to be sold for 2,5 billion hryvnia. As long as all these financial issues remain unresolved, it is impossible to talk about the normal development of the defense-industrial complex.

No less significant is the problem of state order. The expenditures from the budget for the defense industry during all the years of independence were rather small. For example, last year they amounted to about 15 billion hryvnia. Of such fast-moving funds, only 2012 million hryvnias were received for the development of military equipment and weapons of the Ukrainian army in 890, in the 2013 year - 685 million, and in the current year - and even less - only 563 million is planned. It is obvious that such means are catastrophically low for the development of the defense industry. According to experts, in order to keep the Ukrainian army in a modern, combat-ready state, it is necessary to spend at least 400-500 million dollars on it, and this is only for the purchase weapons and technology. In addition, for the effective development of the military-industrial complex, it is necessary that the state defense order be several times higher than exports. In Ukraine, at present, about 93 percent of all defense products are exported.

Anyway, but in order for the Ukrainian defense-industrial complex to start developing, and not just keep afloat, all these problems must be overcome. An important circumstance remains Ukraine’s dependence on Russian components and the Russian market. Thus, the refusal of the Ukrainian defense industrial complex to cooperate with Russia will primarily affect the possibilities of filling the state budget through the export of military products of Ukrainian origin to Russia. In addition, the termination of cooperation will, according to experts, lead to a loss of about 30 thousands of jobs, since military production will noticeably decrease.

In addition, losses include the impossibility of implementing joint projects, in particular, the joint production of An-148 / 158, the resumption of production of Ruslan (An-124-100), the continuation of work on the construction of military transport aircraft An-70. In addition, the gap of cooperation will lead to the impossibility of using several shipyards in Nikolaev for the construction of heavy class warships.

Do not forget that Ukraine has already lost 13 enterprises, which are located on the Crimea peninsula. They, we recall, were part of the Ukrainian state concern "Ukroboronprom".

However, there is armament in which Ukraine and Russia do not cooperate at all, but are competitors, especially in the markets of Asia and the East. It is, first of all, about armored vehicles. Ukraine has now entered very promising markets and has entered into several good contracts.

In addition, the Russian government received another cause for concern: the Dnepropetrovsk "Yuzhmash" allegedly intends to hold talks with representatives of some countries on the sale of the production technology of ballistic intercontinental missiles of the heavy class "Satan" and "Voivod". Moreover, the Russian Foreign Ministry has already appealed to the Ukrainian government not to disclose the technology, since Ukraine has signed the Hague Code of Conduct against Ballistic Missile Proliferation.

The decision of the Ukrainian government to cease military-technical cooperation with Russia automatically means that Ukrainian defense companies will have to either look for buyers for the products they sold to the Russians, or expand cooperation with existing buyers.

The Russian side has repeatedly stated that without cooperation of the two countries in the defense industry, the Ukrainian defense industry will not survive. In addition, Russian experts say that Ukrainian military products are not needed in the West, and they simply will not be allowed there in order to avoid unnecessary competition. This is really true, because the positions of German manufacturers are strong in the West. At the same time, there are developments in Ukraine that are interesting to the West. In particular, we are talking about joint cooperation of the Ukrainian enterprise "Luch" and the Belgian Cockerill Maintenance & Ingenierie Defense, which have implemented a project to create a Belgian tower with Ukrainian missile and cannon armament. This development is easily compatible with all types of light armored vehicles. A similar new thing has already appeared on the Polish armored personnel carriers "Rosomak". Poland has also repeatedly expressed its desire to implement jointly with Ukraine the development of navigation systems, radar stations, various kinds of missiles and communication equipment. Izium Instrument-Making Plant supplies its optical glass to European and American countries.

In February, the leadership of “Spetstekhnoeksport” discussed with the representatives of the Ministry of Defense and Marine Corps of the Indonesian Navy the terms of the contract for the supply of five BTR-4 armored personnel carriers. If the contract is successful, there is an agreement to supply more 50 units of such machines.

In addition, Ukraine is a supplier of components for technology in the markets of Asia and the East. So, last year a contract was signed between Ukraine and Pakistan for the supply of 110 power plants for combat tank Al-Qalid worth $ 50 million. Machine-building enterprise "FED" successfully negotiates with the Chinese on the sale of both finished products and technologies. Over the past year alone, the plant has developed about 30 new parts for aviation.

Interested in Ukrainian armored vehicles and Belarus. In particular, President A. Lukashenko became interested in Ukrainian wheeled armored personnel carriers. And although Lukashenka didn’t mention what kind of armored personnel carriers he was talking about, the press has already made suggestions that he was referring to the Bce-4 “Bucephalus”. It should be noted that the interest in Ukrainian armored vehicles is not accidental. The fact is that the Belarusian government intends to update the fleet of armored vehicles of its army. And besides, the Ukrainian BTR-4 entered the top ten best armored personnel carriers in the world in terms of firepower, protection and mobility.

Military experts differently assess the gap in military-technical cooperation between Ukraine and Russia.

So, according to the director of the Center for Army Studies, Disarmament and Conversion V. Badrak, the gap will be painful, but more so for Russia, because it will lose the Voyevoda launch vehicles. Without the Ukrainian components will not work and anti-tank complex "Chrysanthemum-S". In total, the losses of Russia could theoretically be about two billion dollars.

Almost all the Ukrainian “experts” say that for Ukraine the breakdown of relations in the defense industry is first and foremost a political decision. Since Russia allegedly showed aggression against Ukraine, Ukraine should fully abandon the Russian weapons and military equipment and not support the strengthening of Russia's defense potential.

But the Ukrainian politician V. Medvedchuk is sure that the Ukrainian defense industry will lose the Russian market, and with it the talented domestic military designers and strategic partners. In his opinion, the government destroys the Ukrainian defense-industrial complex by deciding to stop the cooperation of the defense industrial complex of the two countries and thus deprives the country of development prospects.

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  1. +23
    30 June 2014 10: 16
    Let's drink, without clinking glasses, for the economy of Ukraine ... drinks
    1. +13
      30 June 2014 11: 29
      Yes, drinking to peace do not clink glasses. But now many "enlightened by the Maidan" and their parents are free, including from work. What they wanted, they ran into it ...
      1. +14
        30 June 2014 11: 36
        So a resident of the Khazar Khaganate Boval sang svidomo combat songs. Reference Ukrainian.

        We know your prospects. Have seen. And how Iraq bought Ukrainian armored vehicles. More dumb bad ones? And how the West and China "cooperated" with you on the An-70. And how the Zenith rocket burned down the Sea Launch.

        And why only the damned Muscovites Morozov, Antonov, Yangel created the appropriate industry for you. Do not feed horses.

        Only Novorossia will have prospects, having got rid of the occupation yoke of the Bandera-fascist junta.
        1. +11
          30 June 2014 14: 56
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          Boval sang Svidomo battle songs. Reference Ukrainian.
          We know your prospects. Seen it.

          That's for sure! The author of the article does not possess competence. Repeats fabrications from ukroSMI.
          For example.
          1. "Plant named after Malyshev "- by a quarter (up to 302 million hryvnia)." Why, this is $ 24-25 million. These are five tanks in total ...
          2. "... development and production of aircraft (An-70)"
          How much was produced and for how long? laughing
          And how many Russian components and intellectual property are in this plane?
          3. "... on the sale of technology for the production of heavy-class ballistic intercontinental missiles" Satan "and" Voyevoda "
          The author is truly not aware that this is one and the same. wink
          Some mistakes in the article.
          Ukraine has sold passion as much as Soviet IWT.
          Therefore, the exporter is "great".
          Innovation there does not smell (with the rarest, maybe exceptions).
          It doesn’t happen that everywhere ..., but in the defense industry, innovations are a jamb.
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          2. +11
            30 June 2014 15: 07
            It doesn’t happen that everywhere ..., but in the defense industry, innovations are a jamb.
            Here from the latter, a new model of armored vehicles is being handed over to the Ukrainian Border Service. This miracle is called - a mobile checkpoint. It is made at the Nikolaev armored plant. hi
            1. +12
              30 June 2014 15: 11
              October 17th of the year!))))) it remains to find winter and storm! to this miracle a barrel with kvass and go!
            2. +2
              30 June 2014 16: 10
              Quote: Gomunkul
              This miracle is called - a mobile checkpoint. It is made at the Nikolaev armored plant

              serious device))) a sort of coffin on a rigid coupling .....
            3. +4
              30 June 2014 16: 34
              Damn, as soon as the poor "mess" is not mocked .. it's time for the old man to rest! Although it is possible that the deposits of old buildings are just sawing? Is the legacy of the "non-swinging" squandered?
            4. 1nik-ol
              +4
              30 June 2014 17: 24
              Here from the latter, a new model of armored vehicles is being handed over to the Ukrainian Border Service. This miracle is called - a mobile checkpoint. It is made at the Nikolaev armored plant. hi

              it looks more like a field kitchen
              1. 77bob1973
                0
                30 June 2014 19: 57
                My wife also called that.
            5. +1
              30 June 2014 19: 01
              No, this is a target for shooting "Cornets"
            6. +1
              30 June 2014 20: 02
              Correctly called: mobile mass grave. Neither defense, nor maneuver .... Probably Mosk-a-l-i-m is not given to understand the great strategy of UKRO lol
            7. Camouflet
              0
              2 July 2014 03: 31
              Quote: Gomunkul
              Gomunkul SU June 30, 2014 15:07 p.m. ↑ New

              It doesn’t happen that everywhere ..., but in the defense industry, innovations are a jamb.
              Here from the latter, a new model of armored vehicles is being handed over to the Ukrainian Border Service. This miracle is called - a mobile checkpoint. It is made at the Nikolaev armored plant. hi

              I made fun, by golly. laughing And surprised belay
              1. Something I have not heard about such a plant.
              2. Maybe this is a wooden layout for a film about the successes of Ukroboronprom? More like a barrel for beer, which were in the old days.
              3. I wonder how the soldiers will soar in this miracle? Yes, they are immediately skipped as soon as they out of need go out.
              4. Armored cart Kotovsky. This miracle does not even have an engine!
            8. 0
              6 July 2014 15: 32
              C The pedestal would be better removed and this wunderwaffle put
          3. 77bob1973
            +2
            30 June 2014 19: 56
            You can add according to the latest data: - Iraq and Indonesia have refused to purchase the BTR-4.
        2. +9
          30 June 2014 15: 00
          We know your prospects.
          There is such an old joke about the prospect, I think it is in the subject:
          On the farm, decline, animals have nothing to eat. So they were about to leave for another farmer. The cows were the first to leave, everyone is calling with them. Ducks, pigs in doubt think, and the Ball lies in a bottle and looks at everyone ..
          Cows: - The ball will come with us, it’s good there, but here you will die of hunger
          Ball: - No, I have a perspective here !!!
          The cows left, the pigs decided to leave.
          Pigs: - The ball will come with us, look at the au pair kranta.
          Ball: - No! I have a perspective here !!!
          Cows and pigs are gone, and ducks ask
          Ducks: - Ball what prospect are you ??? the cows are gone, the pigs are gone .. the au pair is definitely tryndets ?!
          Sharik: - Yesterday I heard the owner say to the hostess "If things go on like this at Sharik ... I will suck"
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    2. +7
      30 June 2014 14: 33
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Let's drink, without clinking glasses, for the economy of Ukraine ...
  2. +7
    30 June 2014 10: 20
    I think everything is just beginning! The main thing is to remove Benya and tighten Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk! Ukrainian industry has no future! The remnants will pour into the industry of Russia!
  3. +7
    30 June 2014 10: 36
    Since Russia allegedly showed aggression against Ukraine, Ukraine should completely abandon the Russian arms and military equipment and not support the strengthening of Russia's defense potential.



    in KIEV suffer a severe form of insanity ... SCHIZOPHRENIA is called, chop the branch on which they sit.
    1. +4
      30 June 2014 10: 45
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      chop the branch on which they sit
      - but they are now "free"! For example, you can go to Germany to wash the toilet without a visa ??? But they can! Just think the communal apartment has grown 3 times - so this is the price for FREEDOM! Just think you'll have to eat European products - but FREEDOM! And in Europe, the products are specific, somewhere there was even an article - a list of criteria for the products - THE MAIN THING IS THAT THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL EXTERNAL !!! And not a word about taste and nutritional properties! hi
    2. +3
      30 June 2014 12: 34
      Therefore, it is necessary to introduce a new term in psychology -UKRO madness. But actually it’s very sad ....
    3. 0
      1 July 2014 01: 19
      In many respects I agree with the author, especially regarding our VPK. Considering the current government’s ban on cooperation with the Russian Federation, and the already signed association with the EU, and evaluating what remains of the Ukrainian industry, I think that in the future the units will remain (if any) the EU will remove competitors because their own shirt is closer to the body. Further, our design bureaus developed as they used each other's components and depended on each other (symbiosis) and they had to help each other to win tenders and survive (for example, motor sich) whether this is already a well-functioning chain of EU enterprises. ??? I think not. And over the years of independence, I have seen more factories dying than bursting. So the kaput process is moving in the right direction.
  4. +2
    30 June 2014 10: 37
    It's funny, as soon as the defense industry begins to "move" - ​​so the Maidan.
    There is a prospect, but after three years and not in Europe.
    In the meantime, goodbye.
  5. +2
    30 June 2014 10: 41
    According to Ukrainian experts, the breakdown of relations between the two states will not bring catastrophic consequences for the provision of Ukrainian armed forces. Even more than that, they are sure, the Ukrainian defense industry can even win in the future.

    How is it? "Everything is very bad, but in principle it is normal, but in general it is even very good ..." What economic laws does Ukraine live by?
  6. +3
    30 June 2014 10: 49
    I would not bury the defense of Ukraine. War will end sooner or later, and how it will end is unknown. If Kharkov remains behind Ukraine, then it will not disappear, as well as defense industry enterprises of other areas. If the United States decided to create a Russophobian state near Russia, then they will create it and the army will help to create and arm. So the military-industrial complex in the coming years will work quite successfully for itself. Some plants will suffer, of course, but not critically in the main.
    1. +3
      30 June 2014 11: 06
      Quote: Russ69
      I would not bury the defense of Ukraine. War will end sooner or later, and how it will end is unknown.

      ----------------------
      This is partly correct, the question is "will people wait" ... Many specialists can sail abroad, not necessarily to Russia, which means that design schools and teams may be lost ...
    2. +10
      30 June 2014 11: 36
      For whom on yourself? Che laugh something? Defense for yourself? This agriculture can still work for itself, light industry, the fuel and energy complex, in order to put on shoes and sit in the warmth to pop the loaves. And whose defense will the chies work for? She does not feed, does not warm. If only a bullet in each other? Or maybe Airbus and Boeing will kindly move in the market and give it a part of Ukro ANam? Or will NATO helicopters start flying on engines for MI-8? Or Safran and others like them will close their production and ask managers at Yuzhmash? Yes, Obama and Merkel will not even have time to blather about it, as they fly upside down from their stands.
    3. 0
      30 June 2014 11: 38
      For whom on yourself? Che laugh something? Defense for yourself? This agriculture can still work for itself, light industry, the fuel and energy complex, in order to put on shoes and sit in the warmth to pop the loaves. And whose defense will the chies work for? She does not feed, does not warm. If only a bullet in each other? Or maybe Airbus and Boeing will kindly move in the market and give it a part of Ukro ANam? Or will NATO helicopters start flying on engines for MI-8? Or Safran and others like them will close their production and ask managers at Yuzhmash? Yes, Obama and Merkel will not even have time to blather about it, as they fly upside down from their stands.
    4. +2
      30 June 2014 12: 42
      Similarly, the Americans will pour dough !!!! Already fell asleep !!!! People are already cancer (simple), so it will be necessary to somehow evade people to pay for rearmament-delirium ....
    5. 0
      30 June 2014 18: 44
      Quote: Russ69
      If the United States decided to create a Russophobian state near Russia, then they will create it and the army will help create and arm

      It's hard to argue with that. But what will they arm her with? They will invest their hard-earned, American denyuzhki in the development of the Ukrainian, national defense industry, or supply their own, not the first fresh weapons in the framework of the rearmament of their army. If the first, I will be very surprised.
    6. 0
      1 July 2014 01: 25
      I think the United States, if they will arm the Ukrainian army, then with their weapons, etc., to bind and make Ukraine even more dependent, so that our military-industrial complex flies ...
  7. +5
    30 June 2014 10: 58
    There is an 2 response to this.
    1) No.
    2) No, because no one except Russia needed his products. But since "yaku to gilyaku", then hi yourself jump further and sits with his "unparalleled" tanks, armored personnel carriers, which even Iraq returned, long-obsolete missiles and even An-124, most of which are stupidly idle, i. Because several Volga-Dnepr vehicles cover all the needs for giant transport workers. In the conditions of a modern relatively small army, Russian factories themselves will cope with its saturation, so guys, call me, but we will drive the BTR-82, and the super-duper BTR-4 is going to hell. UkroVPK has no sales market, even before the actual collapse of the country there was no, and now no one in the world will invest a penny in the products of the country, which is unknown whether it will be alive in a month. In general, we separated, get everything owed to this, for 23 years you could already learn the rules of conduct for separation.
  8. +5
    30 June 2014 11: 20
    Still, it's a pity. Living in the Union, I used to consider Ana, KB Morozov, Motor Sich and KB Yuzhnoye as ours. After all, there is labor, material resources and even the lives of our grandfathers. After all, the same Morozov and Antonov were not Ukrainians, and at the same time the same Lyulka was a Ukrainian, and P.O. was a Sukhoi Belarusian. And now they are trying to teach me to rejoice at the troubles of Ukrainians and Belarusians. Yes, the people have nothing to do with it. And the oligarchs are not people, but for me they are not even people. Whether they are Ukrainian, American or "our" Russians. Our best tank design bureau is bent by remaining in Ukraine. It's a pity.
    1. +1
      30 June 2014 12: 39
      After the collapse, Russia and Ukraine agreed to jointly own the technology and jointly decide who to sell to. Ukrainians without asking half sold out and now, apparently, completely cease to be shy. So if the West is of any interest to Ukraine, then it already has IT.
      1. 0
        30 June 2014 14: 59
        Quote: STi_v
        After the collapse, Russia and Ukraine agreed to jointly own the technology and jointly decide who to sell to. Ukrainians without asking half sold out and now, apparently, completely cease to be shy. So if the West is of any interest to Ukraine, then it already has IT.

        I don’t remember when the Russian Federation consulted with Ukraine where to sell. After the Pakistani contract (the Russian guns were not sold) --- the Russian Federation is also "a stigma in the gun"
        Therefore, to drive to Ukraine, that she and she alone is to blame, this is the same mantra of our nationalists that Russia alone is to blame. And most likely this is the formation of an opinion that part of the people (Russians or Ukrainians) are to blame for another ...
  9. +1
    30 June 2014 11: 37
    In addition, the Russian government received another cause for concern: the Dnepropetrovsk-based Yuzhmash allegedly intends to negotiate with representatives of some countries on the sale of production technology heavy ballistic intercontinental missiles "Satan" and "Voivode".

    But this is nonsense, "Satan" is the NATO designation for the entire line of R-36 ICBMs (R-36M - 15A14 (SS-18 Mod 1 "Satan", SS-18 Mod 3 "Satan", SS-18 Mod 2 " Satan"), R-36M UTTH - 15A18 (SS-18 Mod 4 "Satan"), R-36M2 - 15A18M (SS-18 Mod 5 "Satan", SS-18 Mod 6 "Satan")).. .
  10. mihasik
    +2
    30 June 2014 14: 44
    Quote: Dazdranagon
    - but they are now "free"!

    They are now brain free. Themselves freed!
  11. +1
    30 June 2014 14: 50
    In light of the severance of relations in the military-industrial complex with Russia, I propose that Ukraine switch to conversion and release a new propaganda weapon: "ROPES FOR MAIDAN"! (Naturally red and black). The target audience for the purchase of these products has already grown. And winter is coming soon ... Without gas wakes up cold so let them warm up !! laughing
  12. 0
    30 June 2014 14: 54
    Yes, and Chrysanthemum is something sophisticated ... The base there is BMP-3. As far as I know, KBM is not connected with suppliers in Ukraine ...
  13. +1
    30 June 2014 15: 10
    Frankly, I currently do not see any prospects for the Urainsky military-industrial complex. The following reasons:
    1. Permanent failure to meet contract deadlines (Iraq with An-32 Sudan with BTR-3, Azerbaijan with BTR-4, etc.)
    Iraq has imposed penalties on Ukraine in the amount of 165 thousand dollars for breaking the contract for the supply of An-32B transport aircraft, writes the Ukrainian magazine "Focus", citing sources close to the arms business. An agreement for the supply of six transporters was concluded between Iraq and Ukraine at the end of 2009. The deal was worth $ 99 million. The first An-32B were to be handed over to the customer in the fall of 2010.

    http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/54657/

    2. The unstable political situation in Ukraine causes buyers to refuse to purchase Ukrainian armament. So, Indonesia refused to purchase 50 Ukrainian armored personnel carriers-4
    Indonesia’s Minister of Defense Purnomo Yusgiantoro, speaking on 9 on May 2014 with the press on the sidelines of the Cyber ​​Defense Competition 2014 conference at the Naval Academy in Jakarta, said the Indonesian Ministry of Defense had abandoned plans to purchase 50 wheeled armored personnel carriers in Ukraine for the 4 Marines . He motivated this by the political crisis in Ukraine.
    Purnomo Yusgiantoro said that "initially, an Eastern European manufacturer was chosen because it was already known as a manufacturer of good quality armored vehicles." "This system [BTR-4] was a priority in the strategic [procurement] plans, but now it has been decided not to acquire it, since there is a war going on in Ukraine," the Indonesian defense minister said.
    Now, according to Yusgiantoro, the Ministry of Defense, together with the Indonesian Navy command, is discussing the possibility of redirecting the funds planned for the purchase of the BTR-4 to purchase armored vehicles for the marine corps from other manufacturers. The Minister indicated, in particular, his intention to acquire additional BMP-3F in Russia.

    Under threat and contracts with Thailand for the supply of tanks "Oplot" and BTR-3.
    So, the Thai BTR-3 have already been spotted as part of the National Guard before being sent to the Southeast:

    A similar situation exists with the delivery of the BTR-4 to Iraq, all 42 vehicles returned by Iraq were adopted by the National Guard and sent to the combat zone, and according to some reports, one has already been captured by militias in Slavyansk:

    The BTR-4E armored personnel carriers originally intended for Iraq were handed over to the Omega special forces of the newly formed National Guard of Ukraine. 07.05.2014 National Guard of Ukraine / vv.gov.ua

    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?236005-Situation-in-the-Ukra

    ine-Crimea- * Photos-Videos * -ONLY / page195
    1. +2
      30 June 2014 15: 21
      About the situation with the supply of BTR-3 to Sudan:
      On October 10, 2009, the Ukrainian state-owned company Spetstechnoexport signed a contract with the Military Industrial Corporation (MIC) of the Ministry of Defense of Sudan through the mediation of the Sudanese company El Shaheed Ibrahim Shamseldeen Complex For Heavy Industries for the supply of a large batch of ground weapons, including 110 main tanks T-72M1, 60 modernized T-55M tanks and 120 armored personnel carriers BTR-3E1. The tanks came from the presence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine with subsequent repairs, and the BTR-3E1 was to be supplied by a new production of the State Enterprise "Kiev Mechanical Repair Plant". The BTR-3E1 was to be delivered with a standard set of individual spare parts, additional protection and a new, cheaper Shturm-3MS combat module (the main differences are the absence of the Barrier anti-tank missile system and a 30-mm grenade launcher, the location of the sighting system was changed). The total cost of armored vehicles sold under this contract to Sudan was about 70 million euros, and the supplementary agreement to it provided for the supply of spare parts for at least another 7 million euros. This was to become only the first part of deliveries of ground equipment and weapons to Sudan from Ukraine under the so-called "big contract" in the amount of several hundred million euros.
      During 2010-2012, Ukraine, according to the data it provided to the UN Register of Conventional Arms, delivered a total of 110 T-72M1 tanks to Sudan (in fact, as can be judged, this refers to the T-72A from the presence with the installation of the mounted explosive reactive armor "Contact- 1 "), 60 T-55M tanks, 30 BMP-1, 10 BRDM-2, 41 self-propelled howitzer 2S1 of 122 mm caliber, 30 combat vehicles MLRS BM-21 Grad 122 mm, and one modernized armored personnel carrier BTR-70Di in the form of a command and staff vehicle.
      In contrast to the sale of old equipment, the implementation of the contract for the supply of 120 BTR-3E1 BTR-2010E2011 of new manufacture to Sudan faced serious difficulties. At the end of 8, the State Enterprise "Kiev Mechanical Repair Plant" was able to send only the first two armored personnel carriers to Sudan, and in 3 - only another 1 BTR-10E2012. Due to chronic delays in the execution of the contract and the revealed unsatisfactory quality of the 3 vehicles already received, the Sudanese side in 1 canceled the contract regarding the supply of the BTR-110EXNUMX and refused to receive the remaining XNUMX units.
      Thus, the BTR-3 in Sudan repeated the fate of these machines in the UAE (the starting customer that financed its development), Myanmar, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan - when, after receiving small batches of BTR-3, customers refused to receive this equipment further.


      one of the BTR-3E1, manufactured at the State Enterprise "Kiev Mechanical Repair Plant" for delivery to Sudan under a 2009 contract.
      The situation with the supply to Kazakhstan of 100 car kits for assembling the BTR-4 is not clear. On May 3 of 2012, it was announced that an agreement was signed between Ukraine and Kazakhstan on the joint production of 100 BTR-4 for a total of $ 150 million. The contract was signed on the first day of the KADEX-2012 International Military-Technical Exhibition. According to the beginning of 2013, production was not started, while representatives of the parties refused to comment.
      http://rus.azattyk.org/content/ministersvo-oborony-corruption-bride-almaz-asenov
      -ukrspecexport-btr-ukraine / 24893029.html
      1. +1
        30 June 2014 15: 30
        Moreover, Kazakhstan and Ukraine had a major scandal, as a result of which 2 of the representative of Ukrspetsexport were sentenced to real terms of imprisonment:
        A specialized inter-district military criminal court in Almaty sentenced Ukrspetsexport employees Alexander Shkolyarenko and Alexander Khrulev to six years in prison.
        It is reported by forbes.ua.
        “The verdict passed yesterday. Citizens of Ukraine were found guilty under Article 312, part 5 (giving bribes on an especially large scale), for which they received six years in prison in a maximum security colony with confiscation of property, ”said the representative of the Military Court of Kazakhstan Sholpan Shiketaeva.
        Former Chief of the Armed Forces Main Department of Kazakhstan, Major General Almaz Asenov, was found guilty of receiving a bribe from Ukrainians and sentenced to 11 years in prison with a sentence in a maximum security penal colony with confiscation of property. He was stripped of his military rank.
        Recall, on January 25, two Ukrspetsexport officials were arrested in Kazakhstan who are suspected of transferring 200 thousand dollars to a local official. The process of transferring money was documented by Kazakh intelligence agencies.

        http://criminalzp.com/?p=9304

        3.Some enterprises whose functioning is vital for the normal functioning of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex are located in Lugansk and Donetsk and are currently captured by militias, which excludes the supply of their products:
        According to the Security Council (RNBO) of Ukraine, the Donetsk Chemical Products Plant was captured in Ukraine. Regarding the subject matter of this LiveJournal, this event is interesting in that the plant produces elements of dynamic protection 4С22 which are equipped with the bulk of Ukrainian tanks, as well as tanks exported by Ukraine.
        Basically, the plant worked for export, since the Ukrainian army was in the state of a rogue state during the years of independence and did not purchase elements of remote sensing (according to my data). With the shelf life of the 4С20 and 4С22 devices with which Ukrainian tanks have been equipped for 10 years, it is very likely to suggest a decrease in the protective characteristics of the EDZ.
        In addition, the plant produces all kinds of explosives for every taste, ammunition and missiles (including tandem warheads for "Kombat", "Stugna", "Barrier", etc.).
        In general, this is not a funny situation - they were left without DZ and without missiles.

        http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/283085.html


        Obama at the Donetsk factory of state-owned chemical products.
        1. +1
          30 June 2014 15: 52
          Based on the foregoing, it can be concluded that any major successes in the supply of weapons produced in Ukraine were not particularly noted. At least only the following deliveries can be attributed to them:
          1. TO THAILAND 102 BTR-3E1, in 2011 year. Another batch of 121 BTR-3E1 was ordered, but the implementation of the contract is in question, as I wrote above.

          Under the same question, the fulfillment of the contract for the supply of 49 Oplot-M tanks, concluded in 2011 (in November 2013, the first batch of 5 tanks was sent).

          2. To Nigeria 51 BTR-3 (30 BTR-3UN, 6 BTR-3UK, 4 BTR-3UR and 11 BTR-3Е)

          3. In Chad 12 BTR-3 in 2011 year.
          Well and with some tight supply of 320 T-80UD to Pakistan.
          All the rest is supplies at the dumped prices of weapons inherited from the former Soviet army, which Kiev continues to do, despite the war in the Southeast:
          On May 28, 2014, a photograph of a MiG-29 fighter intended for delivery to Chad, which is being tested after pre-sale repair at the State Enterprise "Lviv State Aviation Repair Plant", appeared on the web resource www.airliners.net. The aircraft already bears the full color of the Chadian Air Force and the Chadian state registration TT-OAR.
          According to reports, the contract concluded by the Ukrainian side provides for the supply of Chad from the presence of the Ukrainian Air Force of three MiG-29 fighters (including, presumably, one combat training MiG-29UB).
          Earlier, Ukraine delivered Chad from the presence of five Su-2008 attack aircraft and one Su-2010UB in the 25-25.

          http://bmpd.livejournal.com/874115.html


          MiG-29 (Chadian registration TT-OAR), intended for delivery from Ukraine of the Chadian Air Force. Lviv, May 2014 of the year
  14. +1
    30 June 2014 15: 10
    June 16, the new president of Ukraine, Poroshenko, in connection with the well-known events that are taking place in the south-eastern regions of the country, has banned further cooperation of the Ukrainian defense industry complex with the Russian one. Experts have different assessments of the chances for the further development of the Ukrainian defense-industrial complex.
    I will ask you comrades "Russians", let's post messages that your strategic industries have not received goods from suppliers from Ukraine ...
    It seems to me that a similar step of Ukraine is being promoted as if
    Rossvertol did not receive engines
    USC did not receive ZM turbines
    Kharkov did not ship turbines
    Raisins did not send optics
    Artyom generally clamped the rockets (which should generally fall under the Rockets ban for fighters!)
    Kievans clamped pylons, Arsenal clamped something there too
    Oh, and the Dnieper generally immediately turned off TR on the ICBM of the Russian Federation and even turned off work on the Dnieper and the Zenith (although the Russians themselves turned off the anti-aircraft themes because of competition, although this is an internal struggle, since the operators are Russian firms ...)
    Kharkov ANs (and Kiev ones) are generally a complicated subject both before the prohibitions (curtailment of AN 70) and after (each one bends its own interests and pours out as if someone is to blame and everything would have been chocolate)
    Understand, comrades, wait, you pour out the tubs without seeing those who made "these tubs" and wants to be poured out ...
    Therefore, before writing "they will not survive without us," I remind you that purely military products of Ukraine of the Russian Federation are not needed because it itself produces the same (here we are competitors for a long time)
    A very small part (Kiev missiles, for example) is of interest to the Russian Federation. But BT is generally competitive. Air is also competitive, small arms too .. that you don’t take the Russian Federation before and didn’t take it .. everything goes to the markets of anyone but not the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation a specific buyer of what is better / cheaper and not produced in the Russian Federation (engines MS, Turbines, GTE and in that spirit)
    Kharkov tank that he ships the Russian Federation? Nothing...
    In general, public relations and just ... won’t recently announced that the RF Ministry of Defense does not directly buy products, which means that Ukrainians can sell atomic weapons to the RF Ministry of Defense companies and officially make the face brick, since they do not directly sell to Russia.
    What's the problem with this article? In inadequate comments! There are too few comments from "interesting people" and more and more marginalized people. I hope that the trend will reverse for the better.
    1. +3
      30 June 2014 18: 45
      Let's see from the other side. Why should Motor Owl not want to sell engines for fear? TV3-117 was the main engine of Soviet helicopters. And what has Russia been doing, if not all the last 23 years, then at least the Putin period? She persuaded Ukraine to integrate economically. All these years, a rubber hose stretched, that on the one hand they bred Banderlog, on the other, it was necessary to eat something. Everyone needs it. Nobody forbade the same Yushch to kick the Russian Black Sea Fleet from Sevastopol. I remember even the timer to 2017 was hung up when the Black Sea Fleet was expected to stall. Maybe it is still ticking, although that's bad luck, even then it was predicted that by this time Crimea would not be part of Ukraine. But the Russian Federation paid for the base. I paid for a lot of things, which was historically produced in the Ukrainian SSR, but in the end we came to a situation where the only thing left to scare the Russian Federation was with a bare bottom.
    2. European
      0
      1 July 2014 06: 34
      so most commentators work on the principle of
    3. 0
      2 July 2014 23: 14
      Quote: Cristall
      June 16, the new president of Ukraine, Poroshenko, in connection with the well-known events that are taking place in the south-eastern regions of the country, has banned further cooperation of the Ukrainian defense industry complex with the Russian one. Experts have different assessments of the chances for the further development of the Ukrainian defense-industrial complex.
      I will ask you comrades "Russians", let's post messages that your strategic industries have not received goods from suppliers from Ukraine ...
      It seems to me that a similar step of Ukraine is being promoted as if
      Rossvertol did not receive engines
      USC did not receive ZM turbines
      Kharkov did not ship turbines
      Raisins did not send optics
      Artyom generally clamped the rockets (which should generally fall under the Rockets ban for fighters!)
      Kievans clamped pylons, Arsenal clamped something there too
      Oh, and the Dnieper generally immediately turned off TR on the ICBM of the Russian Federation and even turned off work on the Dnieper and the Zenith (although the Russians themselves turned off the anti-aircraft themes because of competition, although this is an internal struggle, since the operators are Russian firms ...)
      Kharkov ANs (and Kiev ones) are generally a complicated subject both before the prohibitions (curtailment of AN 70) and after (each one bends its own interests and pours out as if someone is to blame and everything would have been chocolate)
      Understand, comrades, wait, you pour out the tubs without seeing those who made "these tubs" and wants to be poured out ...
      Therefore, before writing "they will not survive without us," I remind you that purely military products of Ukraine of the Russian Federation are not needed because it itself produces the same (here we are competitors for a long time)
      A very small part (Kiev missiles, for example) is of interest to the Russian Federation. But BT is generally competitive. Air is also competitive, small arms too .. that you don’t take the Russian Federation before and didn’t take it .. everything goes to the markets of anyone but not the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation a specific buyer of what is better / cheaper and not produced in the Russian Federation (engines MS, Turbines, GTE and in that spirit)
      Kharkov tank that he ships the Russian Federation? Nothing...
      In general, public relations and just ... won’t recently announced that the RF Ministry of Defense does not directly buy products, which means that Ukrainians can sell atomic weapons to the RF Ministry of Defense companies and officially make the face brick, since they do not directly sell to Russia.
      What's the problem with this article? In inadequate comments! There are too few comments from "interesting people" and more and more marginalized people. I hope that the trend will reverse for the better.

      An interesting look, a question of professionalism, I do not think that there are a large number of people with military education, hence the comments "A la ulyu chase geese" well, we are gradually degrading (it can be seen from university graduates, objectively I can only say about this group), and the rest is no better now.
  15. +4
    30 June 2014 15: 42
    On Malyshev, the new tank had problems with its cannon (number of shots), interestingly did they solve them or just keep silent? In general, the entire defense industry has a systemic problem - alloying components and special alloys, the reserves of the USSR state reserve were inexhaustible if used in production, but Ukrainians were talented, they simply sold them! Also with rare earth materials! Orders were largely fulfilled only through the processing and disposal of stocks and warehouses with old weapons, but this does not last forever.
  16. +4
    30 June 2014 16: 56
    And what prevented living in friendship ??? Who makes someone kick ?? Fucking is easier than building
  17. SergeyM
    +3
    30 June 2014 17: 22
    It is ridiculous to talk about any prospect of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, looking at the contingent of the Maydauns who have seized power. After all, instead of qualifications, "Svidomo" is now held in high esteem.
  18. +2
    30 June 2014 17: 41
    on the sale of the production technology of ballistic intercontinental heavy missiles "Satan" and "Voivode"
    This alone speaks of the competence of the author of the article ...
    Such a performance is called "a good mine, with a bad game ...". Even the most successful Ukrainian enterprise, Motorsich, received from Russia a number of units that are especially important for the production of its engines, of course it will be able to produce them himself, but the question is - when, in what quantity and quality? And even about "Malyshev's plant" it is generally better to keep quiet, they are still "pushing" trying to fulfill the Thai order and it is not a fact that they can, the enterprise has a lot of problems, in particular now it is necessary to replace the equipment that came from the Crimean enterprises, and soon it is possible and from Donetsk ...
    Well, as for Antonov Design Bureau, it’s no secret that they cannot ensure the full-fledged production of serial cars — the Soviet legacy of the military-industrial complex cooperation ...
  19. dFG
    +1
    30 June 2014 18: 34
    Quote: Alekseev
    Quote: Nikolai S.
    Boval sang Svidomo battle songs. Reference Ukrainian.
    We know your prospects. Seen it.

    That's for sure! The author of the article does not possess competence. Repeats fabrications from ukroSMI.
    For example.
    1. "Plant named after Malyshev "- by a quarter (up to 302 million hryvnia)." Why, this is $ 24-25 million. These are five tanks in total ...
    2. "... development and production of aircraft (An-70)"
    How much was produced and for how long? laughing
    And how many Russian components and intellectual property are in this plane?
    3. "... on the sale of technology for the production of heavy-class ballistic intercontinental missiles" Satan "and" Voyevoda "
    The author is truly not aware that this is one and the same. wink
    Some mistakes in the article.
    Ukraine has sold passion as much as Soviet IWT.
    Therefore, the exporter is "great".
    Innovation there does not smell (with the rarest, maybe exceptions).
    It doesn’t happen that everywhere ..., but in the defense industry, innovations are a jamb.

    thanks for the clarification !!
  20. +1
    30 June 2014 20: 10
    [Soon there will be no such state as Ukraine, and they are considering the prospects of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. It's funny .... lol
  21. +1
    30 June 2014 20: 35
    Soon in Ukraine, excuse me, there will be nothing to eat, the economy is breathing in the air, 9 months are a mess in the country, and they push the remnants of the budget and overseas handouts into the military-industrial complex! What for?
    1. +2
      30 June 2014 21: 33
      well, their Minister of Agriculture, Schweike (, and where they take such names, sold out, daughter-in-law) - said that their harvest had disappeared, since the damned m.o.s.k.a.l. and attacked and the whole crop was trampled !!! wassat so dill tapericha will show us a countrebut !!!! fool fabulous d .... s !!! wassat
  22. 0
    1 July 2014 00: 14
    Quote: Cristall
    What's the problem with this article? In inadequate comments! There are too few comments from "interesting people" and more and more marginals.

    You are right in many ways.
    But this is not the main thing.
    The main thing is the inevitable self-identification of a large part of the Russian people into a new nationality or the harsh reaction of the same Russian people to this process.
    That is, the thousand-year war of Western Europe with Russia has escalated to the limit.

    And here in Russia, for the inevitable monetary losses in this war, it’s all the same anyway ...
    We remember that the road to betrayal and self-destruction has been paved with economic benefits. That political cowardice is not foresight, and concessions to the aggressor are not at all peaceful ...
    There are enough examples of this in the history of European countries and in our history.
    and we are ready to sacrifice all enterprises of Ukraine for the salvation of the people of Ukraine.
    For we have already built enterprises in Ukraine many times after each of the victorious wars, often, as it was after 1945, from the foundations.
    But the loss of a large part of the people in the battle with the eternal enemy is a disaster, which were few in our common history.

    As sad as it may be, the widely spread logung "Ukraine no longer exists" accurately expresses what has happened.
    Either the Ukrainians recognize themselves as Russians, or rather, New Russians, Little Russians, any kind of Russians, or today's Ukrainians remain in the development of banderlogs, organize themselves, fit into the European Union without soap, and dissolve in history.
    Many peoples from the recent past no longer exist.
    For example, a typical example of the Gauls who imagined that they could live according to Roman laws ...
    By the way, recently one of our analytical programs noted well that in countries that join the European Union oligarchs disappear - they simply go bankrupt, or rather, strong Europeans undress them so that there is no possibility of political opposition of nations.
    This fully applies to the Baltic states. There is already the biggest problem youth flight anywhere, but away from homeland ...

    Do not misunderstand me.
    I idolize Kharkov machine builders of the 1930s, Nikolaev shipbuilders of 1960-1970, Lugansk locomotive builders, Donetsk miners, Odessa sailors, Poltava and Melitopol peasants, Antonov aircraft builders of 1960-1980, Zaporizhzhya, Mariupol, Dnipropetrovsk, Dneprodzerzhinsky metallurgists ...
    But we already rebuilt factories in Ukraine from the foundation many times - after each big war ...
    There will be peace, rebuild again.
    But if we give our people to reproach the one whom the ancestors called the Antichrist, the descendants will not forgive us.
  23. +1
    1 July 2014 00: 15
    "And BT is generally competitive. Aviation is also competitive, small arms are also ... don't take the Russian Federation and haven't taken it before ... everything goes to the markets of anyone but not the Russian Federation."
    And from this place in more detail please, especially about small arms. If you are talking about regular fires in art warehouses, before inspections and revisions, then yes. Here Ukraine is beyond competition. And of the new developments of small arms, except that the catapult from the Maidan, and even that really did not pass the test, fell apart.
  24. 0
    1 July 2014 08: 09
    Yuzhmash allegedly intends to negotiate with representatives of some countries on the sale of the production technology for the production of heavy ballistic intercontinental missiles "Satan" and "Voivode"

    As far as I know, “Satan” and “Voivode” are one and the same R-36 rocket in several modifications. And what Yuzhmash can sell is hardly enough to even copy this rocket.
  25. Camouflet
    0
    2 July 2014 03: 18
    The article is optimistic.
    Defense production in Ukraine, in fact, chewing on the remnants of Soviet technology. A defense complex has long been gone. So, separately surviving specimens.

    And specialists in advanced weapons have long been in Russia.

    With the signing of the "association" with Europe and the termination of further cooperation with Russia, the ukroboron will go through a couple of lat krants. Although, maybe they will come to their senses in six months. This will allow you to stretch a little more.