BTR "CENTAUR"

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[CARTRIDGE]

Only sports cars can do pasta, but our fucking MO thinks differently and decided to purchase these coffins on wheels

[Konstantm]

God forbid!!!!

[datur]

Konstantm, THEY WILL LUBRICATE AND OURS WILL BUY.

[Homecoming]

unfortunately they won’t buy, sanctions

[APASUS]

After the shot, the crew meets and searches for all team members. With such a layout, the recoil must be colossal! With such a weapon, the resource is 20 shots and then melted down!

[ereke]

I like these wheeled armored vehicles, and not just because of their appearance, they proved their viability and indispensability in some military conflicts of the late 20th century. The first to start mass-producing such heavy wheeled vehicles was South Africa. In the south of Africa there was a serious war, on one side Pretoria behind which stood the USA in the desire of Aperteida not to allow the "communist infection" (which would be worse than malaria, as the South Africans believed) to the South African continent and supported Jonas Savimbi, the leader of UNITA, with weapons and his troops, as well as "wild geese" mercenaries from Western Europe and the USA in Angola. On the other hand, the Ruling pro-Marxist Party in the capital of Angola, Luanda, was supported by the entire socialist camp, not sparing money, equipment, and the lives of its citizens (the so-called Soviet instructors and Cuban military units). The war was large-scale both in terms of the forces involved and the amount of heavy equipment. That's when the South Africans developed and mass-produced the Ruikat wheeled tanks and the G-6 wheeled self-propelled gun. The terrain was vast, uninhabited savannas (like our Kazakh steppes) and hard soils, where the vehicle's cross-country ability was not a priority. And the South Africans, to the detriment of armor and cross-country ability, gave preference to a strategic advantage. Since the mobile units operated in raids, autonomously on Angolan territory at a considerable distance from the logistics bases. Here the advantages of wheeled vehicles are obvious, tracked tanks are usually delivered to the site of combat action or to the front line by rail. or on special trucks (tank transporters). And wheeled vehicles can travel 1000 km on their own to a refueling station, then refuel again and go into battle. The G-6 wheeled self-propelled guns and the Ruikat wheeled armored vehicles with a tank turret showed themselves especially well in the battle in the fall of 1986 in the area of ​​the city of Cuito Cuanavale. Where they destroyed a lot of Soviet equipment with their fire (T-54, T-62 tanks)

[ereke]

And this "centaur" also took part in military actions as part of the peacekeeping forces in Somalia in 1992-93. Czechoslovakia was the first to dare to put a 152 mm.howitzer on the armored chassis of the "Tatra" in 1979, calling it "Dana" and mass-produced this wheeled self-propelled gun and this is the only self-propelled gun that the Czechs supplied to the USSR in the 80s. And as part of the federal troops, "Dana" participated in the first Chechen campaign of 1994-97. In particular, you can see a video on YouTube where on the pre-New Year's day of the storming of Grozny on December 31, 1994, in a clean snowy field, Czech self-propelled guns are firing at the city, supporting the storming federal forces with fire. By the way, the radio communications of Colonel Savin (commander of the 154th Maikop brigade) when he demanded artillery support and directed the artillery, his words "... do you see two boxes there? The artillerymen's response: yes... Savin: there's a building to the left, work on them! on them... So, it was the "Dana" self-propelled guns that were supporting with their fire and they were filmed in a snowy field just during the firing. Apasus- Your humor is unreasonable.

[ereke]

Someone put a minus to me ... probably because of the proposal ereke,
on the one hand of Pretoria, behind which stood the United States in the desire of Aperheid to prevent the "communist infection" (which would be worse than malaria, as South Africa believed) to the South African continent I quoted the words of the President of South Africa, the then Botha. And so I was born and raised in the USSR and lived under the communists in fairly comfortable conditions, so of course I don’t support Bota’s words. It’s another matter if such equipment was developed and put into mass production, it means that it is necessary and the designers and military won’t do anything in vain, no one will spend a lot of money on development and production, especially since the combat capabilities of multi-wheeled armored vehicles have increased significantly over the past few decades) )

[Roman Skomorokhov]

The idea of ​​wheeled tanks is quite old. But let's see who and why created them. The French tried very hard in that direction. Now here is Italy bungled. But there is one BUT: where was this technique used?

That's right, mostly in Africa. Somalia, Nigeria, Chad and others. Agree that the African landscapes are somewhat different from other theaters. And in the second world in the African deserts, Rommel and Monty were cut so that the dust stood up to the sky. So for large spaces with a relatively flat surface, the wheeled tank is a good (probably) thing.

But I cannot imagine this dyryndu in the forests of the Non-Black Earth Region (and in the forest-steppes of the Black Earth Region) during the rainy season. We are there, excuse me, according to the silly dove, the crawler armored bases were so planted that afterwards they went to the next regiment to the tankmen as if they were going home. Well, there were no problems with alcohol.

So every boots have their own season ...

This iveka in Africa is probably nothing like that. But not more. In general, I agree that Italians only normally do sports cars.

[ereke]

In the vast territories of Kazakhstan, such wheeled armored vehicles with heavy weapons will also work. Where the length of the borders with neighboring states is long in km. Create mobile groups of such vehicles, armored personnel carriers and armored vehicles of communications, reconnaissance and support, they can operate autonomously at large distances from bases like in South Africa)) so my interest in such vehicles is not accidental and increased. Now the Germans have developed the same vehicle, but the armor is at the level of a medium tank and heavy as a tank 30 tons. Cross-country ability and mine protection of such wheeled vehicles approached the tank, but fuel efficiency is lower and the cruising range compared to a tank is several times higher. Rubber wheels last longer than tracks, and there you can adjust the pressure depending on the soil and the condition of the ground (made the tire pressure lower, you can on sandy soil and on soft snow, made it higher on the highway at high speed you can drown at full speed))

By the way, infa, another Italians use "centaur" in Afghanistan in the forces of the Ministry of Taxes and Duties, and he is also fighting there))

[Mr. Truth]

It’s a mistake to make such a mass of chariots, they will instantly lose trackability.

[fktrctqxbr]

But they will win on a march of throws (distance) and speed, and also in maintenance. As you know, caterpillar tracks do not live more than 2000 km, and the wheelbase is 60 000 km

[saturn.mmm]

Well, if in the project of humanitarian aid to our friends from Italy, then it is possible to buy, and so there is no sense in something like that I saw at the exercises in 1985 in the Republic of Belarus the "Uruchye" training ground, well, the idea there was much more interesting if the Ministry of Defense needs something like that let the archives raise

[Setrac]

105 mm weak for anti-tank gun

[Homecoming]

enough in urban conditions, but with a sub-caliber and in an open area. In addition, a 120 mm cannon now stands on the latter.