The Ministry of Defense is going to trim the wings of Oboronservis and to revise the outsourcing system

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The next "achievement" of the previous managing unit of the Ministry of Defense has been called into question by the current manager. And not just questioned, but also prepared, so to speak, for dismantling. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu states that he considers it necessary to conduct a large-scale reorganization in the subordinate JSC Oboronservis - a company famous for Anatoly Serdyukov and his "women's battalion", as well as partially abolish outsourcing in the army.

The Ministry of Defense is going to trim the wings of Oboronservis and to revise the outsourcing system


If one of our readers suddenly forgot, the outsourcing system in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was promoted by the previous leadership of the Ministry of Defense, believing that it was not worth the Russian soldier to do the work on the economic part, to repair military equipment. Suddenly it turned out that the processes of washing, washing floors, cleaning snow, ironing uniforms, repairing military vehicles, armored vehicles, communications equipment take too much time from the fighter, which he must completely and completely devote to various types of combat, tactical and physical training. All the “dirty” work for the fighter was assigned to be performed by “civilian specialists” who not only cooked porridge for the soldier, put the perfect order in the barracks, but also repair any military equipment for the soldier.
One of the main reasons for the introduction of outsourcing in the army, in addition to the reason for “releasing time for direct military training”, was also this: leveling corruption and fraudulent schemes in which the commanders of military units used free soldier labor for their own purposes.

However, as it turned out, the use of soldier labor in unusual areas of activity did not disappear after the introduction of the outsourcing system in the army. And Mr. Serdyukov himself proved it, on behalf of which the large-scale development of the infamous Zhitnoye recreation center, which belonged to the then Minister’s relative Mr. Puzikov, began. According to investigators, conscripts from one of the units of the Russian Air Force were involved in landscaping the recreation center and building the road. However, this act of Mr. Serdyukov did not consider it a grave sin, except that negligence ... and therefore the “outsourcing hero” was, as many of our readers know, eventually amnestied.

As it turns out now (and the current leadership of the Ministry of Defense is already finding out), the introduction of outsourcing in the army not only did not reduce corruption, but on the contrary - the opacity of civilian employment agreements contributed to the emergence of “gray” schemes and financial damage to the main military department. One of the most popular "gray" schemes after the introduction of the outsourcing system is the conclusion of a contract with an affiliated company - a company registered for one of the relatives of the person concerned.

Sergei Shoigu says that the corruption component has only increased, as evidenced by the initiation of criminal 25 and more than a thousand civil cases. And according to the minister, the military department won these cases.
Russian Defense Minister quotes ITAR-TASS:

A detailed analysis of the holding’s more than four years of activity indicates that it is necessary to partially abandon outsourcing and return a number of functions to the military administration.

The mention of a certain “holding” is the mention of the very “Oboronservis”, which, as they say in the Defense Ministry’s management, has multibillion-dollar debts, and even wage arrears. According to the Ministry of Defense, salary arrears in Oboronservis today amount to almost half a billion rubles. The total amount of debt is close to 100 billion rubles.

In this regard, the leadership of the ministry decided to reorganize Oboronservis with a decrease in the number of its subsidiaries approximately two times. The Defense Ministry is taking this step to build a more effective control system both for the work of Oboronservis itself and for all those subholdings with which this company works. The total savings from such a reorganization, according to Deputy Defense Minister Dmitry Bulgakov, could amount to 70 billion rubles. It may, of course, not make up, but let's hope that it will nevertheless amount and in addition lead to a serious work efficiency.

Returning to the outsourcing system, or rather to the question of its partial cancellation (what part of the outsourcing will be canceled, is not yet clear), we can say that from conversations with military personnel it became clear: the overwhelming majority of those with whom we managed to communicate, refer to the need to use civilian specialists in a number of spheres of military activities, to put it mildly, without special approval. And accordingly, these same people are in favor of the abolition of outsourcing in the army in a number of areas.

Special censures related to the repair of military equipment, because it is on the territory of a military unit to repair the same military "Ural" for a soldier or sergeant there will be a "civilian specialist", and what if there are problems with the operation of equipment during large-scale exercises or, God forbid , real fighting. The prospect of "calling out" an auto mechanic, being a thousand kilometers from the place of deployment, and even fulfilling the task of urgently transferring personnel, military equipment or ammunition to a designated point hardly fits with the increased mobility and combat capability of both a separate military unit and the Armed Forces whole

As they say in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, numerous recent military exercises showed that civilian “outsourcers” simply could not keep up with the troops in time, which quite often led to a complete loss of interaction. (Couldn’t or didn’t want? ..) What, in turn, led such a loss, it becomes clear if we take into account that the soldier was recently taught: civilian will come - civilian will repair (well, at least, this follows from the very principle of outsourcing which was implemented not without the help of Anatoly Serdyukov).

It turns out that outsourcing de facto “relaxed” the rear structures (and not only the rear ones) in peacetime and, as a result, questioned the efficiency of economic activities of military units in hypothetically possible wartime conditions. If this or that military unit by definition is not going to solve tasks in the theater of operations, then outsourcing work may still be justified, but in other cases 100% outsourcing is obviously not a variant for the national army. Well-considered adjustments may well benefit.
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  1. +2
    5 June 2014 09: 38
    EVERYTHING RETURNS TO ITS CIRCLE. HOPE FOR THE BEST.
  2. +16
    5 June 2014 09: 45
    Outsourcing is just a gray scheme to enrich the women's battalion, the wooden stool general! Any serving man will say that any cleaning in the army did not give him any pleasure, but without this it is impossible, a soldier must not only be able to fight, but also to repair in combat conditions what he is fighting on, and to clean up the disgusting thing he has thrown! The army educates not only a soldier, but also a responsible, adult man! All the same, one cleaning the parade ground, "mercenaries", completely different repair of equipment (by the way, equipment that a soldier should know as our father), or cleaning his personal space, where the soldier lives, by the way, he also lives in war, in places of temporary deployment.
    1. MVV
      MVV
      +4
      5 June 2014 13: 35
      They talked about this 3 years ago, how much money flowed out, how many specialists drained in the troops, some torment with the repair of equipment, accounts for hundreds of thousands and cases of 1% of the plan, I myself work in the school’s armored service. I know by hearsay.
  3. Hon
    +3
    5 June 2014 09: 48
    A friend works as a driver in a company that provides outsourcing cars to some government organizations. those. the state simply pays a certain amount, and the company takes care of the issues of providing cars, fuels and lubricants, repairs, hiring drivers, etc. He has a salary of 50, a car first had a focus in the top, then they gave Mondeo but with mileage, he always carries one person (personal driver). Everything seems to be fine, but for each car with a driver a fee of 400 thousand rubles per month.
    1. MVV
      MVV
      +1
      5 June 2014 13: 38
      We have the same Ford car from 8 to 17 bills of 300 thousand / month for one car refueling and repair by specialists of our military school. He personally wore signature acts.
      1. Roshchin
        +1
        5 June 2014 17: 43
        For that kind of money, every 2 months a car can be changed to a new one without any repairs. This is good as long as the Ford is not very mileage and all the "maintenance" basically comes down to inspections and signing invoices. And as it sprinkles, then the account will increase. That's the whole "second-sorted"
  4. +16
    5 June 2014 09: 48
    Sergey Kuzhugetovich, good luck in analyzing the Augean stables of Taburetkin ... soldier
  5. +13
    5 June 2014 09: 49
    It was written on the censor that such a scheme for the Ukrainian army ended in failure and the soldiers were starving for this reason the civilian cook was not going to the battle zone and the civilian company was not carrying water. Maybe he looked at the UR and in the Russian Federation turned out to be from such a scheme.
    1. +3
      5 June 2014 17: 38
      Quote: Krio
      It was written on the censor that such a scheme for the Ukrainian army ended in failure and the soldiers were starving for this reason the civilian cook was not going to the battle zone and the civilian company was not carrying water. Maybe he looked at the UR and in the Russian Federation turned out to be from such a scheme.

      Poor starving warriors.
      This whole outsourcing good only for peacetime and places of permanent deployment. And he also encourages corruption, if the soldier has nothing to eat, then who is to blame for the food production? no, they just chose such a company and you will not find the guilty
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  6. +6
    5 June 2014 09: 52
    All right, what else can I say? Thank you for the article
  7. +7
    5 June 2014 10: 01
    Shoigu and military education, decided to reconsider ...

    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation intends to divide many military universities combined in 2009-2012. The reorganization procedure will be finally determined by a decree of the Russian government. A few years ago, such a reform was proposed by the former head of the department, Anatoly Serdyukov. Then more than 60 military academies, institutes, schools and universities were combined into one and a half dozen research centers. “The work is completed, all the military universities that currently exist are considered. Many of their branches will regain the independence they lost during the reform. The decision was reported to the government, there they will give an answer whether they agree with such conclusions or not. The government will determine the procedure for the reorganization of all military educational institutions, ”the Izvestia source told the Defense Ministry. The Commission of the Ministry of Defense to assess the consequences of the decision to reorganize or liquidate departmental educational organizations was established by order of the Minister in March. It was headed by State Secretary of the Ministry of Defense Nikolai Pankov. Previously, the liquidation or reorganization of military universities took place by decision of the Minister of Defense without expert evaluation.

    Source: http://politikus.ru/v-rossii/20780-minoborony-predlagaet-otmenit-reformu-voennog
    o-obrazovaniya-iniciirovannuyu-serdyukovym.html
    Politikus.ru
  8. +6
    5 June 2014 10: 06
    Still cooks to return to the unit! And then, according to the norm, one cook for 30 people eating, and if in part 29 or 28 people? How to feed them without a full-time cook or to leave for exercises, which have become very frequent.
    1. +4
      5 June 2014 13: 15
      On my ship, the cook was conscript, they usually tried to put those who graduated from culinary colleges. So the cook cooked perfectly and for all the holidays we bought food, and he cooked everything that we ordered. He also organized festive tables for the soldiers. They lived perfectly without outsourcing.
  9. +5
    5 June 2014 10: 27
    Madhouse. A soldier is not only "hurray" in battle, but all that concerns the performance of military service to his native Fatherland. And the floors to wash in the barracks, and the territory of the military unit to keep clean and tidy, and the equipment in a combat state, these are all the burdens of military service, and they must be borne. Well, imagine on the ship there will be a bunch of civilians who will wash the deck, cook food, fix equipment, and it's all at sea. Madhouse not otherwise. I hope everyone knows what would have happened to Serdyukov under I. Stalin for such an idea, not to mention the decision.
  10. +4
    5 June 2014 10: 44
    Taburetkina with his bl.diam and relatives - weave the taiga! Collect the money earned for damages. Until full refund! Those. LIFE. What would be disgraceful to others.
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  11. +9
    5 June 2014 10: 45
    Dear Alexey, allow me to continue.
    Similarly in industry.

    Outsourcing is being implemented:
    As a system that increases labor productivity to attract investors. The collective of 20000 people produces 20000 units of production, labor productivity is one conventional unit per person. Non-core 10000 people are being deduced (mechanical, electrical, energy services, designers with builders, suppliers) and labor productivity doubles. Investors come smile !
    As a system providing, if necessary, a concentration of efforts in one direction and the ability to earn money in another enterprise fellow .

    Outsourcing leads to:
    To increase costs and increase the cost of production at the main enterprise due to the sharp swelling of the administrative apparatus in the allocated services. Similarly, there are services in the main production for a feverish determination of how it turned out that they wanted the best ... request
    To the exclusion of efficiency in eliminating failures in the manufacturing process. tongue
    To the ideological detachment of repair personnel from the main production - this is not mine, this is another plant. Well, the corresponding attitude to work. fool
    To reduce the salaries of repair personnel, the office is growing, the main production is applying penalties, there is not enough money, statements about the possibility of earning money on the side are a fool. Skilled professionals are leaving. crying

    The administration of the main production, clearly involved in the implementation of outsourcing, looks away from it when talking about it. recourse and looking for ways to return to the old. But damn it! Not so simple! Directors of educated offices liked laughing !
    Investors indulge and ask why they will be interested in increasing labor productivity if profits fall?

    Outsourcing, as it is being introduced in Russia, is at the level of Khrushchev's cultivation of corn beyond the Arctic Circle.

    Citizen Volodin for another good Article hi .
  12. +7
    5 June 2014 11: 10
    A long overdue decision. Civilians will never go to wartime to provide their services in a theater of war. The army should be self-sufficient, which is what the new leaders of the Defense Ministry want to restore.
  13. +10
    5 June 2014 11: 12
    Future soldiers are taught to do nothing in schools. Labor was canceled, classes are not washed, the territory is not cleaned. I was brought up in an orphanage in the late 50s and early 60s, so our free time was limited. Duty in the dining room, in the kitchen , bedroom, classroom, corridors, and you also need to go to a sports school, music classes, workshops, and much more. I’m 69 years old and I’m still working, since I don’t have fun without it. Well, and what kind of soldier will it work out? Yes another year of service. And I gave the Pacific Fleet 4,5 years on a submarine.
  14. Ev58
    +3
    5 June 2014 11: 26
    It's time to do it.
  15. +4
    5 June 2014 12: 11
    Outsourcing may not be bad in places of constant peacetime deployment, you just need to monitor the number of intermediaries. But in the field and in war this is certainly the height of idiocy. We need military support units. That is, 40-year-old Uncle Vasya and Uncle Petya are taken on a contract in the army and they are responsible for repairing the tractor and cleaning the territory, for example. It is clear that they will not run on exercises, but they will obey the same zampotyt. In our unit under the USSR, there were two civilian civilian welders, and the head of the canteen, did an excellent job.
  16. Roshchin
    +7
    5 June 2014 12: 15
    Really out. One winter, I’m walking near the naval school. Everything is in the snow. Before entering the barracks, a platoon of second-hand bombers smokes, and an elderly man breaks a path in the snow under the jokes of future officers.
    1. +3
      5 June 2014 13: 19
      Yes, no order, in my time, external tidy objects were fixed up to 3 courses. By the way, what kind of school was that?
      1. Roshchin
        0
        5 June 2014 13: 59
        School in Pushkin.
        1. +3
          5 June 2014 15: 05
          Engineers, of course, I ended up on Frunze emb. Lieutenant Schmidt.
  17. -4
    5 June 2014 12: 51
    The problem is not simple, as it seems to many. Yes, outsourcing is corruption schemes, slowness, inconsistencies, etc. A soldier's car repair? Can you imagine what it is? To the pain, I feel sorry for the equipment and the spent folk money.
    1. Roshchin
      +6
      5 June 2014 15: 05
      This should be done by trained repairmen. There were also soldiers with skillful hands. During my service in our unit, there were a lot of civilians in the fleet, the State Border Guard Service, who repaired cars. But these were not outside "outsourcers", but their own people who worked in their unit, and some simply took off their shoulder straps upon dismissal and remained in the unit. The main problem is the lack of spare parts, those. battery fluids, rubber. To organize a full-fledged MTO and diagnostics, at least at the level of a simple city service station, and no "second-sorting" is needed. We repair our foreign cars in simple service stations and drive nothing. After all, diagnostic equipment is now inexpensive and not in short supply. Train the men. And technology will always be on wheels.
    2. 0
      5 June 2014 15: 16
      Sofa strategists and pique vests can put a dozen more minuses to me, but I know what I'm talking about. Motorist by education and military specialty. It was also possible to buy decommissioned army vehicles in the 90s. After writing off, selling and investing a small amount of money from the car, we got candy. It seems that the cars just ruined. Maybe now the repair has been better done in the Russian Army, but there are clearly not enough experienced repairmen in uniform for all army vehicles. And we don’t need examples from the life of the type - but in our case we had an experienced one ... We need to look at this problem from the position of commander in chief, and not from the trenches.
      1. Roshchin
        +3
        5 June 2014 15: 39
        Dear Commander-in-Chief. In your opinion, without spare parts by investing, how do you write a small amount of money, will someone on the side turn cars into sweets? You probably worked as a magician in a military circus.
    3. +3
      5 June 2014 21: 24
      normal soldier repair! there is no need here ... he served in a repair company, soldiers normally repaired equipment under the guidance of officers and warrant officers. the soldiers were graduates of technical schools, colleges, working in service stations, etc. there were no complaints, current repairs, in accordance with the manuals for military repair - just go! still there would be more spare parts and generally the most "raisins" ... yes, I don't put a minus, maybe you are in such a v.ch. served ...
  18. +11
    5 June 2014 14: 18
    Quote: XYZ
    The problem is not simple, as it seems to many. Yes, outsourcing is corruption schemes, slowness, inconsistencies, etc. A soldier's car repair? Can you imagine what it is? To the pain, I feel sorry for the equipment and the spent folk money.

    On joint patrols in Yugoslavia P.I.N.D.O.S.Y. threw Hammer with bullshit without even trying to reanimate him lol They rushed to the shreds and roadsides, depicting the readiness to defend themselves, and called for help and a tow truck. The contract did not provide for repair work by the crew. I know the case when they didn’t change the punctured wheel, they squeezed under our Beter, because someone shot a couple of times. laughing laughing laughing Our mechanics were replaced by a tool or two, they didn’t even fit.
    I would save some part of outsourcing. It was always insanely sorry for the time when the battalion cleaned the fallen snow, the territory of parks, roads, and the shooting range for days. This heroic work was easily replaced by a civilian snow blower and KAMAZ with a stroke from the city streets, a liter of alcohol - the whole payment. The rest will remove the internal outfit. Let the civilian staff prepare food in a stationary environment. Let her do the laundry. But there must be a platoon of software with their kitchens! Well-trained and trained, able to deploy PCBs in the field and feed people hot food. The crew of the BMD, which dropped the goose on the march, and sitting in the bushes waiting for the technical closure of the battalion ... well - it does not fit in my head. what
    1. +1
      5 June 2014 21: 28
      vehemently plus, dear connecting rod!
  19. +1
    5 June 2014 14: 21
    All that remains is to outsource the conduct of hostilities, and military service will be honey.
  20. +3
    5 June 2014 14: 27
    Suctioning - he is ... suctioning.
    In "aboutBonorservice" still understand and understand.

    Somehow already in the unit they tried to calculate how much a wash of bed linen costs.
    I don’t remember exactly the numbers, just the point:
    - Earlier, the cost of washing one set was worth for MO: 25 rubles.
    - with Oboronservice, the costs of the Moscow Region steel: 50 rubles.
    - and in the nearest dry cleaning wash from 30 to 40 rubles to the maximum ...

    It’s easier for Prapora to just stupidly carry laundry to a super-expensive dry cleaning service, MO will be cheaper ...

    And the question is also very interesting - how did the laundry property of the Moscow Region somehow magically become the property of Boronservice? And absolutely free ...

    And so - in everything else except bedding.
    ..................................................
    And the biggest trouble is that suctioning is breaking up the rear services of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    The rear is one of the most complex systems in the Army. There is no Army without the rear.

    About the collapse of maintenance has already given an almost REAL example on topvar:
    - Uncle from the factory, I don’t have a tank here ...
    - Hmm ... And he pissed on a sloth, son?
    “Yes, uncle, as you taught.” All the same, do not start ...
    “So he pissed.” Let's go show how to start a car.

    ps The very idea of ​​Outsourcing is good. But, damn it, we got it so perverted that this octopus became just another link between the MO money and the actual work. And this "link" has become absurdly expensive and not just irrational, but also undermines the defense capability of the Army. (otherwise the fight will have to be stopped if the harp flies)
    1. +2
      5 June 2014 21: 29
      I have been calling him for a long time - spnzding laughing
    2. +1
      5 June 2014 23: 04
      Quote: Aleks tv
      ps The very idea of ​​sucking is good. But, damn it, we were so perverted by it that this octopus became just another link ....


      To undermine defense and start ...
      1. +1
        5 June 2014 23: 23
        Quote: studentmati
        To undermine defense and start ...

        Hi Sasha.
        That damn ... you can’t joke with such things.

        We always rush to extremes:
        - or a soldier plows like dad Carlo wherever he goes,
        - or they lick him., as now.
        So it is with money and with service and with the rest of the crap, not forgetting about your own pocket.

        Somehow "IN THE MIDDLE" - well, it just doesn't work ...
        request
  21. +5
    5 June 2014 18: 41
    I happened to find this difficult period of reform as the acting commander of a separate military unit, and I will say that with a definitely good idea, it turned out as always! They tried to drive the Russian army into American standards ... It wasn’t done by professionals, it turned out, what happened! I sadly and incorrectly joked that in order to understand the mistakes of Russia's reform, we need a new Tsushima ... God forbid Tsushima will not and in peacetime we will understand that Russia, just because of one geography, is not like any country in the world and it the army can only develop in a special way, which was determined by the Great Patriotic War. Tactics and strategy, weapons may change, but the best that today is the Army of Russia and the Soviet Union! Because she checked her organization through the global blood of full-scale continental wars: World War I and WWII! Through heavy internal conflicts and military expeditions in other countries.
    This is not Midway Atoll to take ....
    The United States did not when they did not fight and do not know what their own land is! They do not have this concept and they are not to blame, simply because they are just an island! And Russia is the basis of the Eurasia continent! And Eurasia is humanity !!
  22. 0
    5 June 2014 20: 03
    That's right. "Until a cock pecks a man cross". Better earlier than never.
  23. 0
    5 June 2014 21: 19
    Support!
  24. +1
    5 June 2014 22: 35
    It would be more correct not to experiment with the debugged mechanism for providing troops at the training grounds, which was developed on the basis of numerous military experience. Well, it’s better late than never. This is about cancellation. I didn’t find this sort of soring, but I remember very well that the teachings They were checks and studies, primarily of the rear services. Especially food services and repairmen. But you could ask them, they were in uniform.
  25. circumcircle
    +2
    5 June 2014 23: 42
    I fully support Shoigu in that Oboronservis does not live, as well as outsourcing in the army - a bastard system in which the army becomes dependent on civilian companies, which do not care about life and death. Yes and in conditions close to combat, these service providers are always out The peculiarity of the Russian army was always its cooks and the soldier always he sewed himself and he repaired his shoes and strove to keep himself clean in any combat situation. And the Fritz carried tanks for repairs to factories over several thousand kilometers, which helped us.
  26. 0
    6 June 2014 13: 21
    When they first came to serve, these outs were somehow manifest.
    The technician came to wash every day.
    The tractor was cleaning the snow.
    Dudes in brand new overalls were spinning in the fleet.
    But literally 2-3 months passed and everything became as before.
    Housekeeping, snow at 5 am got up to clean, repair of equipment on soldiers and sergeants
  27. 0
    8 June 2014 21: 13
    what will be OUTSOURCING IN FIGHT ??? MORASM and only .. NOBODY AND SHOULD NEVER do this!
    If a soldier does not learn how to prepare and repair EQUIPMENT .. THEN IN THE CASE OF WAR, NO ONE WILL GO TO DO IT FROM THE FACTORY!
    this DUCH is utter!
  28. 0
    17 December 2014 14: 00
    Rather, they would have already dispersed the entire Oboronservice with its "daughters" .. and at the same time they took the furniture maker ..