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Accurate air discharge


Transport C-17 GLOBEMASTER III delivers humanitarian aid to the outskirts of Port-au-Prince in Haiti on January 18 of 2010

This article describes the basic principles and data on testing of high-precision airborne systems of NATO countries, describes the navigation of the aircraft to the point of release, the control of the trajectory, as well as the general concept of discharged cargo, enabling them to land accurately. In addition, the article emphasizes the need for accurate discharge systems, and in it the reader becomes familiar with promising concepts of operations.

It is worth noting the current growing interest of NATO to accurate dropping. The NATO National Weapons Directorate Conference (NATO, CNAD) has set an accurate drop for special operations forces as NATO's eighth highest priority in the fight against terrorism.

Today, most of the drops are carried out by flying over the computed air release point of CARP (computed air release point), which is calculated on the basis of wind, system ballistics and aircraft speed. The ballistic table (based on the average ballistic characteristics of this parachute system) determines the CARP where the load is dropped. This average data is often based on a dataset that includes deviations up to standard deviation meters to 100. CARP is also often calculated using the average winds (for winds at heights and near the surface) and the assumptions about the constant profile (pattern) of air flow from the release point to the ground. Wind patterns are rarely constant from ground level to high altitudes; the amount of deviation depends on the influence of the terrain and the natural variables of the meteorological characteristics of wind currents, such as wind shear. Since most modern threats come from ground-based fire, a modern solution is to drop cargo at high altitudes and subsequent horizontal displacement, which allows the aircraft to be diverted from a dangerous route. Obviously, in this case, the influence of various air currents increases. In order to meet the requirements of airborne dropping (hereinafter aviabelling) from high altitudes and to prevent the delivered goods from entering the “wrong hands”, accurate airborne dropping at the NATO CNAD conference received high priority. Modern technology has made possible the implementation of many innovative methods of dropping. In order to reduce the impact of all variables that impede accurate ballistic dropping, systems are being developed not only to improve the accuracy of CARP calculations due to more accurate wind profiling, but also a system of handling the dropping load to the point of a predetermined impact with the ground regardless of changes in force and direction wind

Impact on the achievable accuracy of airborne drop systems

Variability is the enemy of accuracy. The less the process changes, the more accurate the process, and here air drop is no exception. There are many variables in the airborne process. Among them are uncontrolled parameters: weather, human factor, for example, the difference in cargo securing and crew actions / time calculations, perforation of individual parachutes, differences in the manufacture of parachutes, differences in the dynamics of the disclosure of individual and / or group parachutes and the effect of their wear and tear. All these and many other factors influence the achievable accuracy of any airborne system, ballistic or controlled. Some parameters can be partially controlled, such as airspeed, heading and altitude. But due to the special nature of the flight, even they can vary to some extent during most drops. Nonetheless, accurate airborne dropping has come a long way in recent years and has evolved rapidly since NATO members have invested and are investing heavily in technology and testing for accurate dropping. Numerous qualities of precision drop systems are currently being developed, and in the near future many other technologies are planned to be developed in this rapidly growing area of ​​opportunity.


The C-17 shown in the first photo of this article has automatic capabilities regarding the navigation part of the exact drop process. Accurate C-17 dropping is performed using CARP, HARP (high-altitude release point) or low-altitude parachute extraction system (LAPES) low-altitude parachute discharge system algorithms. In this process of automatic dropping, the ballistics, the calculations of the place of discharge, the signals to start dropping are taken into account, and the main data are recorded at the time of the reset.

When dropped at low altitudes, at which the parachute system is deployed when the cargo is dropped, CARP is applied. For high-altitude drops, HARP is activated. Note that the difference between CARP and HARP is in calculating the free fall trajectory when dropping from high altitudes.

The C-17 aircraft aircraft flight data base contains ballistic data of various types of cargo, for example, personnel, containers or equipment, as well as their corresponding parachutes. Computers allow you to update ballistic information and display it at any time. The database stores the parameters as input to the ballistic calculations performed by the on-board computer. Please note that C-17 allows you to save ballistic data not only for individuals and individual items of equipment / cargo, but also for a combination of people leaving the aircraft and their equipment / cargo.

Accurate air discharge
JPADS SHERPA has been operating in Iraq since August 2004, when the Natick Soldier Center deployed two systems in the Marine Corps. The previous version of JPADS, for example Sherpa 1200s (pictured), has a limitation on the carrying capacity of about 1200 pounds, while the specialist rigging usually form sets weighing about 2200 pounds

The 2200 class-controlled cargo of a combined JPADS (Joint Precision Airdrop System) precision aero-throwing system in flight during the first combat surge. A joint team consisting of army, air force and contractor representatives recently adjusted the accuracy of this option for JPADS

Air flow

After the dumped load is released, the air begins to affect the direction of movement and the time of the fall. The computer onboard the C-17 calculates the airflow using data from various onboard sensors of flight speed, pressure and temperature, as well as navigation sensors. Wind data can also be entered manually using information from the actual drop area (RS) or from the weather forecast. Each data type has its advantages and disadvantages. The wind sensors are very accurate, but they cannot show weather conditions over the PC, since the aircraft cannot fly from the ground to a given height above the RS. The wind on the ground is usually not the same as the air flow at a height, especially at high altitude. Predicted winds are a prediction and they do not reflect the speeds and directions of flows at different altitudes. Actual flow profiles usually do not depend linearly on height. If the actual wind profile is not known and is not entered in the flight computer, by default, the CARP linear wind profile assumption is added to the CARP calculation errors. After these calculations have been performed (or the data has been entered), their results are recorded in the database of airborne drops for use in further CARP or HARP calculations based on average actual air flows. Winds are not used for dropping with LAPES technology, since the plane drops cargo just above the ground at the desired point of impact. The computer in the C-17 plane calculates the net deviation values ​​during wind drift in the direction of the course and perpendicular to it for conducting airborne drops in the CARP and HARP modes.

Wind systems

In the radio probe, a GPS unit with a transmitter is used. It is carried by the probe, which is produced near the drop area before release. The obtained location data is analyzed to obtain a wind profile. This profile can be used by the drop manager to adjust CARP.

The Air Force control laboratories for sensor systems at Wright-Patterson airbase developed a high-energy two-micron Doppler transceiver LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging - infrared laser locator) on carbon dioxide with an 10,6 micron laser for measuring air flow at high altitude. It was created, firstly, to provide real-time 3D maps of wind fields between the aircraft and the ground, and, secondly, to significantly improve the accuracy of dropping from great heights. It makes accurate measurements with a typical error of less than one meter per second. The advantages of LIDAR are the following: provides a complete 3D wind field measurement; provides real-time data flow; is on the aircraft; and also his secrecy. Disadvantages: cost; useful range is limited by atmospheric noise; and requires minor modification of the aircraft.

Due to the fact that deviations in time and location data can affect wind detection, especially at low altitudes, testers should use GPS DROPSONDE devices to measure winds in the drop area as close as possible to the test time. DROPSONDE (or more fully, DROPWINDSONDE) is a compact tool (a long thin tube) that is dropped from an aircraft. Airflows are set using the GPS receiver in DROPSONDE, which tracks the relative Doppler frequency from the radio frequency carrier of the GPS satellite signals. These Doppler frequencies are digitized and sent to the on-board information system. DROPSONDE can be deployed before the arrival of a cargo plane from another aircraft, for example, even from a jet fighter.


A parachute can be a round parachute, a paraglider (parachuting wing), or both. In the JPADS system (see below), for example, either a paraglider or a paraglider / round parachute is mainly used for braking cargo during descent. A “guided” parachute provides JPADS flight direction. Other parachutes in the common system are often also used in the final descent section. Parachute control lines go to the AGU (airborne guidance unit) air guidance device to shape the parachute / paraglider to control the course. One of the main differences between the categories of braking technology, that is, the types of parachute, is the horizontal achievable offset that each type of system can provide. In the most general terms, displacement is often measured as the lift / drag aerodynamic quality (lift-to-drag ratio) of the system “at zero winds”. It is clear that it is much more difficult to calculate the achievable displacement without accurate knowledge of the many parameters affecting the deviation. These parameters include airflows that the system encounters (winds can help or interfere with deviations), the total available vertical distance for dropping and the height the system needs for full disclosure and planning, as well as the height that the system needs for preparation before crashing to the ground. In general, paragliders provide L / D values ​​in the range from 3 to 1, hybrid systems (i.e. high-winged paragliders for controlled flight, which near the impact with the ground turn into ballistic, provided by round domes) give L / D in the 2 range / 2,5 - 1, while traditional round parachutes, controlled by sliding, have L / D in the 0,4 / 1,0 - 1 range.

There are numerous concepts and systems that have much higher L / D ratios. Many of them require structurally rigid guide edges or "wings" that "unfold" during deployment. As a rule, these systems are more complex and expensive to use in airborne dropping, and they also tend to fill the entire available volume in the cargo hold. On the other hand, more traditional parachute systems exceed the total weight limits for the cargo hold.

Also, for parachute systems for dropping cargo from a high altitude and delaying the opening of a parachute to a low altitude HALO (high-altitude low opening) can be considered for high-precision aero-throwing. These systems are two-step. The first stage, in general, is a small uncontrolled parachute system that quickly lowers the load over most of the trajectory in height. The second stage is a large parachute, which opens “close” to the ground for final contact with the ground. In general, such HALO systems are much cheaper than controlled drop-off systems, and they are not so accurate, and if several cargo sets are dropped at the same time, they will cause this cargo to “scatter”. This spread will be greater than the speed of the aircraft, multiplied by the time of disclosure of all systems (often a kilometer distance).

Existing and proposed systems

The landing phase is particularly affected by the ballistic trajectory of the parachute system, the effect of the winds on this trajectory, and any ability to control the dome. Trajectories are evaluated and provided to aircraft manufacturers for entry into an on-board computer for calculating CARP.

However, in order to reduce the errors of the ballistic trajectory, new models are being developed. Many NATO member countries are investing in precision drop systems / technologies, and even more countries would like to start investing in order to meet NATO requirements and national standards for accurate cargo dropping.

Joint Precision Air Drop System Joint JPADS System

Precise dropping does not allow “to have one system that is suitable for everything”, since the weight of the load, the difference in height, accuracy, and many other requirements vary considerably. For example, the US Department of Defense is investing in numerous initiatives as part of a program known as the Joint Precision Air Drop System (JPADS). JPADS is a controlled, high-precision aero-drop system that greatly improves accuracy (and reduces dispersion).

After dropping into high altitude, JPADS uses GPS and guidance, navigation and control systems for its accurate flight to a designated point on the ground. Its gliding parachute with self-inflating shell allows you to land at a considerable distance from the drop point, while pointing this system allows you to perform high-altitude drops to one or multiple points simultaneously with 50 - 75 meters accuracy.

Several US allies showed interest in JPADS systems, while others are developing their own systems. All JPADS products from the same manufacturer share a common software platform and user interface in stand-alone pointing devices and a task scheduler.

HDT Airborne Systems offers systems ranging from MICROFLY (45 - 315 kg) to FIREFLY (225 - 1000 kg) and DRAGONFLY (2200 - 4500 kg). FIREFLY won the American JPADS 2K / Increment I contest, and DRAGONFLY won the 10000 pounds class. In addition to these systems, MEGAFLY (9000 - 13500 kg) set the world record for the largest self-filling dome ever to take to the air, until this record was broken in 2008 with an even larger GIGAFLY system with a load of 40000 pounds. Earlier in the year, it was announced that HDT Airborne Systems had won a fixed-price contract with 11,6 million dollars for JPAD's 391 system. Contract work was carried out in the city of Pennsokene and ended in December 2011 of the year.

MMIST offers the systems SHERPA 250 (46 - 120 kg), SHERPA 600 (120 - 270 kg), SHERPA 1200 (270 - 550 kg) and SHERPA 2200 (550 - 1000 kg). These systems were purchased by the United States and are used by US marines and several NATO countries.

Strong Enterprises offers SCREAMER 2K in the 2000 class of pounds and Screamer 10K in the 10000 class of pounds. She has worked with Natick Soldier Systems Center on JPADS since 1999. In 2007, the company had 50 of its 2K SCREAMER systems operating on a regular basis in Afghanistan, and the 101 system was ordered and delivered by January 2008.

Boeing's Argon ST subsidiary received a contract with no agreed delivery date and an unspecified amount of 45 million dollars worth for the purchase, testing, delivery, training and logistics of ultra-light JPADS Ultra Light Weight (JPADS-ULW). JPADS-ULW is an aircraft-driven dome system that is capable of delivering safely and effectively loads of 250 total weight - 699 pounds from heights to 24500 feet above sea level. Work will be carried out in Smithfield and is expected to be completed in March 2016.

Forty bales of humanitarian aid are dumped from C-17 using the JPADS system in Afghanistan

S-17 dumps coalition forces in Afghanistan using improved system aviation deliveries with installed LAPS software from NOAA


SHERPA is a delivery system consisting of commercially available components manufactured by the Canadian company MMIST. The system consists of a programmable small parachute that deploys a large dome, a parachute control unit and a remote control.

The system is capable of delivering 400 - 2200 pounds of cargo using 3 – 4 paragliders of various sizes and AGU air guidance devices. Before the flight, a task can be planned for SHERPA by entering the coordinates of the intended landing point, available wind data and cargo characteristics.

The SHERPA MP software uses the data to create a task file and calculate CARP in the drop area. After dropping from the aircraft, the exhaust parachute of the Sherpa system - a small round stabilizing parachute - is deployed with an exhaust line. The exhaust parachute is attached to the exhaust trigger lock, which can be programmed to operate at a predetermined time after the parachute opens.


The SCREAMER concept was developed by the American company Strong Enterprises and first introduced at the beginning of 1999. The SCREAMER system is a hybrid JPADS, which uses an exhaust parachute for guided flight along the entire vertical descent, and also uses conventional, round unmanaged domes for the final phase of the flight. Two options are available, each with the same AGU. The first system with 500 carrying capacity is 2200 pounds, the second with 5000 carrying capacity is 10000 pounds.

SCREAMER AGU is supplied by Robotek Engineering. In the SCREAMER system with a lifting capacity of 500 - 2200 pounds, a self-inflating parachute with an area of ​​220 square is used. ft. as exhaust with load up to 10 lb / sq. foot; the system is able to pass through most of the harshest wind flows at high speed. The SCREAMER RAD is controlled either from a ground station or (for military applications) during the initial phase of the flight using AGUs weighing 45 pounds.

Paragliding system DRAGONLY with a load capacity of 10000 pounds

The preferred system for the American program for the joint system of accurate air delivery with a load capacity of 10000 pounds under the designation JPADS 10k was DRAGONFLY from HDT Airborne Systems, which is a fully autonomous GPS-guided delivery system. Distinguished by a braking parachute with an elliptical dome, she has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to land within 150 radius from the intended meeting point. Using data only at the point of landing, the AGU (Airborne Guidance Unit) device calculates its 4 position once per second and constantly adjusts its flight algorithm to ensure maximum accuracy. The system has a slip ratio of 3.75: 1 to ensure maximum displacement and a unique modular system that allows you to charge the AGU during the folding of the dome, thereby reducing the cycle time between drops to less than 4 hours. As standard, it comes with a functional Mission Planner planner from HDT Airborne Systems, which is capable of performing simulated tasks in a virtual operating space using mapping programs. Dragonfly is also compatible with the existing JPADS Mission Planner (JPADS MP). The system can be pulled out immediately after leaving the aircraft or gravitationally falling using a traditional G-11 exhaust kit with one standard exhaust sling.

The DRAGONFLY system was developed by the JPADS ACTD group of the US Army's Natick Soldier Center in collaboration with Para-Flite, the developer of the braking system; Warrick & Associates, Inc., developer of AGU; Robotek Engineering, avionics supplier; and Draper Laboratory, software developer for GN&C. The program began in 2003 and flight tests of the integrated system began in mid-2004.

Available system AGAS (Affordable Guided Airdrop System)

Capewell and Vertigo AGAS is an example of JPADS with a controlled round parachute. AGAS is a joint development of the contractor and the US government that began in the 1999 year. It uses two actuators in the AGU device, which line up between the parachute and the cargo container and which use the opposite free ends of the parachute to control the system (i.e., the parachute system slip). Four free end tillers can be controlled individually or in pairs, providing eight directions of control. The system needs an accurate profile of the winds with which it will meet over the discharge area. Before dropping, these profiles are loaded into the AGU on-board flight computer in the form of a planned trajectory along which the system “follows” during descent. The AGAS system is able to adjust its location by means of lines all the way to the meeting point with the ground.


Atair Aerospace developed the ONYX system under the contract of the American Army SBIR Phase I for 75-pounds cargo and was scaled by ONYX in order to achieve a load capacity of 2200 pounds. The ONYX 75-pound parachute system divides guidance and a soft landing between two parachutes, with a self-inflating guidance shell and a ballistic round parachute opening above the meeting point. The “herd” algorithm has recently been included in the ONYX system, which allows for in-flight interaction between systems during mass landing.

Small Paragliding Autonomous Delivery System SPADES (Small Parafoil Autonomous Delivery System)

SPADES is being developed by a Dutch company in collaboration with the national aerospace laboratory from Amsterdam with the support of the parachute manufacturer of the French company Aerazur. The SPADES system is designed for the delivery of 100 - 200 kg goods.

The system consists of a paragliding parachute with an area of ​​35 m2, a control unit with an on-board computer and a cargo container. It can be dropped from a height of 30000 feet at a distance of removal to 50 km. It is autonomously controlled by GPS. Accuracy is 100 meters when dropping 30000 feet from a height. Parachute SPADES with an area of ​​46 m2 delivers with the same accuracy loads of mass 120 - 250 kg.

Free Fall Navigation Systems

Several companies are developing personal navigation aids on airborne releases. They are mainly designed for high-altitude drops with an immediate opening of a HAHO parachute (high-altitude high opening). HAHO is an overshoot occurring at high altitude with a parachute system deployed when leaving the aircraft. As expected, these free-fall navigation systems will be able to direct special forces to the desired landing points under bad weather conditions and will maximize the distance from the drop point. This minimizes the risk of detecting an invading unit, as well as a threat to the delivery aircraft.

The free-fall navigation system for the Marine Corps / Coast Guard went through three stages of prototyping, all stages with a direct order from the US Marine Corps. The current configuration is as follows: fully integrated civilian GPS with antenna, AGU and aerodynamic display attached to a paratrooper helmet (manufactured by Gentex Helmet Systems).

EADS PARAFINDER provides the military parachutist in free fall with improved horizontal and vertical displacement (deviation) (that is, displacement from the landing point of the dropped load) in order to achieve its main goal or up to three alternative targets in any surrounding conditions. A paratrooper puts a helmet-mounted GPS antenna and processor unit on the belt or pocket; The antenna provides information on the parachutist helmet display. The helmet display shows the paratrooper the current direction and desired course, which is based on the landing plan (i.e., air flow, drop point, etc.), current altitude and location. The display also shows the recommended control signals showing which line to pull in order to head to the three-dimensional point in the sky along the ballistic wind line generated by the task planner. The system has a HALO mode, which directs the paratrooper to the landing point. The system is also used as a navigation tool for a landed parachutist to direct him to the gathering point of the group. It is also designed to be used with limited visibility and to maximize the distance from the jump point to the touchdown point. Limited visibility may be due to bad weather, dense vegetation or during night jumps.


Beginning in 2001, high-precision airborne bombardment developed rapidly and is likely to become more common in military operations in the foreseeable future. Accurate dropping is a high priority short term demand in the fight against terrorism and a long term demand for LTCR within NATO. Investments in these technologies / systems are growing in NATO countries. The need for accurate dropping is understandable: we must protect our crews and transport aircraft, giving them the opportunity to avoid ground threats and at the same time deliver supplies, armaments and personnel across the widely distributed and rapidly changing battlefield.

Improved aircraft navigation using GPS has increased the accuracy of drops, and weather forecasting and direct measurement methods provide significantly more accurate and high-quality weather information to crews and combat planning systems. The future of accurate dropping will be based on controlled, deployable from high altitudes, GPS guided, efficient aircraft dropping systems that will use advanced task scheduling capabilities and will be able to provide accurate logistics for a soldier at an affordable price. The ability to deliver supplies and weapons to any destination, at any time and in almost all weather conditions will become a reality for NATO in the very near future. Some of the accessible and rapidly developing national systems, including those described in this article (and similar ones), are currently being used in really small quantities. In the coming years, we can expect further improvements, improvements and upgrades of these systems, since the importance of delivering materials at any time and place is critical for all military operations.

Riggers of the US Army from Fort Bragg assemble fuel containers before discharge during Operation Enduring Freedom. Then forty containers of fuel fly out of the cargo compartment of the GLOBEMASTER III.

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Military Technology 12 / 2013
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  1. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 April 9 2014 09: 05
    What is the article about? Alex Alexeev. negative
    1. bigELDAK
      bigELDAK April 9 2014 10: 36
      An article on dropping cargo using both conventional parachutes and guided paragliders (3 photos). From altitudes <10 km, range up to 50 km and deviation 100 m (SPADES). Such a small system with GLONASS could be adopted by us, for example, dropping to the military bases in the Arctic food, fuel.
      1. beard999
        beard999 April 9 2014 18: 07
        Quote: bigELDAK
        could be adopted by us

        Well, just for dumping cargo in the Arctic, we definitely don’t need to “adopt” anything. Such funds have been used by the USSR Air Force since the late 70s. last century. For example, the UPGS-500-2 system: the discharge height is from 500 to 5500 m, the maximum payload is up to 700 kg, the permissible wind at the ground is up to 15 m / s, the range of the remote control system is at least 8 km, the average deviation, when dropped from a height of 4000 m - 25 m (achieved without using satellite navigation). There are both lighter systems - UPGS-100 and UPGS-150, as well as more lifting systems like UPGS-1000.
  2. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 April 9 2014 10: 44
    About how aaamers dump aid to builders of democracy in the world
    1. denis02135
      denis02135 April 10 2014 01: 29
      Dear, this is about how to steal and be prepared for any complications. An example of the Second Shock and 33 Ephraim WWII are illustrative examples of how it is not necessary to supply troops in the environment. Although you can give an example of the Germans at Stalingrad and the Demyanovsky Cauldron (taken out on vacation after being surrounded and delivering weapons and ammunition) And you can get out of it as much as you like. Only in Haiti there were discharges after the earthquake of 222000 dead (it was necessary to dump food closer to the victims), and the builders of democracy have nothing to do with it.
  3. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 April 9 2014 11: 48
    How not to get hungry, but you still have to enter the enemy’s air defense coverage area.
    And here everything is already ready, BTA planes are not fighters, and it is unlikely that they will be able to perform a missile defense (only in Hollywood cinema, perhaps).
    A couple of missiles and good bye.
    And in general, the Yankees like all sorts of onanis ... to engage in it, to see very foreign resources they do not allow them to sleep.

    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 April 9 2014 12: 00
      In this regard, the words from one song are recalled:
      "And I understand that I am flying" laughing
  4. k_ply
    k_ply April 9 2014 12: 51
    Strange! it has always been believed that masturbation means not doing a damn thing. In fact, the Airborne Forces (as a synonym for the SBR) are betting on the development of the RA, it is the Russian Airborne Forces that are leading in the world in terms of combat strength (i.e., in the number of formations and units) and in the presence of heavy (up to 18 tons) combat troops in service. systems (armored and self-propelled artillery), as a result, these systems require, after the landing, replenishment of ammunition and fuel, the task of ensuring the autonomy of supplies of MTO / fuel and lubricants of the Airborne Forces operating in isolation from the main forces is one of the priorities, who, if not we, to develop parachute systems in the direction increasing the carrying capacity, safety, reliability and accuracy of the landing, so that there is no reason to say that again "wanked" and lagged behind.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 April 9 2014 13: 27
      Quote: k_ply
      Actually, the Airborne Forces (as a synonym for the RBF) are betting on the development of Armenia

      Who told you that?
      The Airborne Forces are not the navel of the land, but our main rate on the nuclear deterrence system.
      If we didn’t have them, then no Airborne Forces would have helped, even if all the absolutely paratroopers would have died.
      And the fact that we have a lot of equipment and people in the Airborne Forces, and the territory is also rather big.
      Try to quickly transfer the railway transport, in which case the troops to the desired region, when in modern warfare, the bill goes for hours and minutes.
      And at the same time, our Airborne Forces will operate in the area of ​​their air defense, we also do not need to dump cargo in such ways.
      In general, this method of landing equipment, people and cargo is extremely unreliable.
      In the "golden age" of the Airborne Forces from the 60s to the 80s of the 20th century, a lot of all kinds of research on this topic was carried out in our country.
  5. max702
    max702 April 9 2014 14: 30
    The topic is very interesting, but now it is a little expensive but in the future .. everything can be ..
  6. k_ply
    k_ply April 9 2014 20: 49
    Quote: wanderer_032
    Who told you that?

    If this is not said on any of the resources (incl. Topwar), then of course! usually, the military doctrine of the state is widely published in the press, although to a specialist who thinks to a person the main provisions (directions of construction) are understandable.

    Quote: wanderer_032
    The Airborne Forces are not the navel of the land, but our main rate on the nuclear deterrence system.

    That is what nuclear deterrence is.
    In the development of general-purpose forces and precisely on the basis of the geographical and territorial features of the country, priority is given to the Airborne Forces as the basis of the Rifle Division.

    Quote: wanderer_032
    Try to quickly transfer the railway transport, in which case the troops to the desired region, when in modern warfare, the bill goes for hours and minutes.

    Why and to whom do you offer?
    Railway transport will be involved, do not even hesitate, the transfer of combined-arms army units with heavy equipment and weapons will also be needed, but even with the simultaneous start (loading) with air transfers, this will already be the second (main) echelon of troops being transferred.

    Quote: wanderer_032
    And at the same time, our Airborne Forces will operate in the area of ​​their air defense, we also do not need to dump cargo in such ways.

    In case of air transfers at the deployment stage, it is possible that we do not confuse the transfers with subsequent military landing operations (including echelons).
    The profession of the military to assume the worst scenario and prepare based on such scenarios for the development of state events contains the armed forces.
    Well, if our air defense is an indestructible perimeter, you should not forget about enemy aviation, although the airborne forces should act in cooperation with air defense during transfer and front-line aviation (isolation of the airborne area) during landing operations.

    Quote: wanderer_032
    In general, this method of landing equipment, people and cargo is extremely unreliable.

    What is it about? war is generally a risky and costly task, without a guarantee of success.
    Well then, you need to set up a network of airdromes capable of receiving BTA aircraft in the border / frontline zone of all possible theater of operations, and in case of war, rent them from the enemy, if only without parachutes, huh?

    Quote: wanderer_032
    In the "golden age" of the Airborne Forces from the 60s to the 80s of the 20th century, a lot of all kinds of research on this topic was carried out in our country.

    "... until the 80s" - I think everyone understands why before this period it was the "golden age" for the army and navy.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 April 10 2014 09: 36
      Quote: k_ply
      If this is not said on any of the resources (incl. Topwar), then of course! usually, the military doctrine of the state is widely published in the press, although to a specialist who thinks to a person the main provisions (directions of construction) are understandable.

      And what is VO here?
      In our country, there is still no clearly formed military doctrine enshrined at the legislative level. And therefore, following from what is, our doctrine is called "act according to the situation." So they act in such a way that the commanders of different types and types of troops (each of them) pulls the "budget blanket" over themselves without thinking about the consequences of such actions. And this happens because there are just no decisions at the state level, enshrined in law (even in a highly secret form). This can be seen from the many indirect signs, with the help of which it is easy to guess about it.

      Quote: k_ply
      Railway transport will be involved do not even hesitate

      Actually, it was a question of remote landing and remote ejection of various cargoes on parachute systems, with landing at a given point.
      And here is the railway transportation? Do they have anything to do with this topic?
      I cited this argument precisely in favor of the fact that it is impossible to transfer troops over long distances by railway transport, and therefore we have airborne forces.

      Quote: k_ply
      we do not confuse the transfer with subsequent combat landing operations (including echeloned).

      What in our time, with such a development of air defense systems, can there be deep and layered landing operations? fool
      This is a dream game, a disease of the mind.

      Quote: k_ply
      What is it about? war is generally a risky and costly task, without a guarantee of success.

      And therefore, in this situation, can we afford to throw into the wind, hard-won, collected and sent to support the troops materiel resources?
      In your opinion, it turns out that the goods lost with this method of throwing can improve the already good .. new position of our troops in case of what?
      Very stupid point of view.
      There are many other ways to deliver goods by air to your destination.
      Glider is one of them.
      In addition, AN-72,74 aircraft and almost all helicopters can deliver cargo to any level and suitable landing surface (in addition, they can pick up the wounded on the way back and deliver them to the rear in the fastest way).

      Quote: k_ply
      "... until the 80s" - I think everyone understands why before this period
      it was the "golden age" for the army and navy.

      Yeah. That's why the Airborne Forces and there was a lot of all kinds of equipment for transportation, landing and for military operations. Starting from military transport aircraft, parachute systems for various purposes and ending with armor and vehicles specially designed for the Airborne Forces. As well as specially designed and modified to meet the requirements of the Airborne Forces samples of small arms and equipment.
  7. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 April 10 2014 08: 54
    Only one person was found who wrote at least something, the rest stupidly zamusnovili.
    Quiet, dastardly miners with the root "gray" in the title. This reflects their essence.
  8. k_ply
    k_ply April 10 2014 16: 20
    Quote: wanderer_032
    What in our time, with such a development of air defense systems, can there be deep and layered landing operations? fool
    This is a dream game, a disease of the mind.

    The air defense system is preceded by the suppression of air defense assets (to create an air corridor) and the isolation of the airborne area by tactical (front-line) aviation in order to bypass the air defense zone (or to be safe), the airborne transport systems can carry out wide air coverage.
    Dreaming of a continuous zone of ground-based air defense tightly covered by PU missiles is not harmful of course, but the nonsense is excellent! I can imagine how China overlaps the territories adjoining us with only one of its long-range and medium-range air defense systems, and this is only along the front, and the coastal objects are deep in the territory?

    1st echelon assault (MTC wave, to make it clearer), 2nd echelon "heavy" equipment and artillery of the Airborne Forces (BO units), 3rd echelon supplies MTO (subdivisions B and TO), in case of a successful scenario, the last two echelons are landing landing method (on the GDP of the captured airfield).

    The remaining paragraphs of your post are not interesting to me, the continuous bickering of a stupid talkative person trying to justify his stupidity. Everything is with you!
  9. Alex Alexeev
    21 November 2017 16: 54
    Such a cool article, and no one .... sad