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Automatic pistol system Bergman sample 1903 – 1908 biennium, brand “Bayard”

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The automatic pistol of the Bergman system, model 1903-1908, mark "Bayard" (military Bergmann-Bayard). Designed by Bergman, improved and put on sale by the Belgian armory the company "Piper", producing weapons under the brand name "Bayard". It was in service in Portugal and Denmark. Externally, this sample of the Bergman pistol is very similar to the pistol of the 1897 model of the same author. The barrel is movable, shutter with locking. When fired, the barrel with the receiver and the bolt are pushed back on the gun block, the bolt is unlocked and slides back, ejecting the sleeve. The trigger mechanism, magazine and other parts are the same as in the sample in 1897. This sample of the Bergman pistol was originally designed in four calibers: 7,65 mm and 9, 10, 11 mm, but only two calibres were released - 7,65 mm and 9 mm. Stores are available on 6 and 10 rounds. You can charge by inserting a filled magazine from the bottom or pushing cartridges into the magazine from above from a plate holder. In service in Denmark and Portugal adopted Bayard pistols only 9-mm caliber. Bullet weight 8,3 g, charge weight 0,45 g, cartridge weight 12,75 g, its length is 35,5 mm. The initial velocity of the bullet is 400 m / sec., The energy is 44,8 kg · m. Gun length 250 mm, height 145 mm, thickness 32 mm; weight 900 g. When the pistol has a holster-butt, adjacent to the handle of the gun and contributing to a more accurate shooting. The Bayard pistol is a less perfect system than Browning, Colt, Weblay — Scott, Parabellum; it comes very close to the Mauser pistol of 1896–1902, although somewhat more perfect than the latter.





Automatic pistol system Bergman sample 1903 – 1908 biennium, brand “Bayard”










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  1. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 29 March 2014 09: 23
    +4
    At least I will know what kind of pistol Gruzdev had from "The meeting place cannot be changed."
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 29 March 2014 09: 34
      +6
      Her. Gruzdev had a lady’s Piper Bayard of the 6,35 caliber.
      1. Pashhenko Nikolay
        Pashhenko Nikolay 29 March 2014 10: 34
        +2
        Is it where it was mentioned that it was Piper Bayard? Moreover, the non-standard cartridge was used. 6,35 caliber is difficult to pick up.
        1. Srgsoap
          Srgsoap 29 March 2014 10: 47
          +3
          The film shows his gun. After the search they find it is not there. Here is a shot from the film, maybe one of the specialists will guess what is really behind the barrel ???
          1. Pashhenko Nikolay
            Pashhenko Nikolay 29 March 2014 10: 56
            +2
            Yes, the film is clearly not Bayard. It is just thanks to the article that I remembered where I had heard this name before, well, it was interesting to read what kind of miraculous judo it was.
          2. bunta
            bunta 29 March 2014 11: 08
            +6
            Walter 7? Taken from here: http://historypistols.ru/blog/pistolety-pod-unitarnyj-patron-avtomaticheskie/por
            yadok-razborki-i-sborki-pistoleta-valter-model-7 /
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            2. Srgsoap
              Srgsoap 29 March 2014 11: 37
              +3
              Thanks, it seems that this trunk is actually shown in the film, only the modification is later. I found very complete information on your link.
              http://historypistols.ru/blog/pistolety-pod-unitarnyj-patron-avtomaticheskie/pis
              tolet-valter-model-7-walther-model-7-i-ego-raznovidnosti /
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        2. Orang
          Orang 29 March 2014 11: 11
          +2
          Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
          cartridge 6,35 caliber is difficult to pick up.

          Not at all. At that time, there were still enough bullets and 6.35 caliber weapons, including Soviet ones. Bayard was mentioned in the film, did not read the book, I do not know.
          1. Pashhenko Nikolay
            Pashhenko Nikolay 29 March 2014 11: 13
            +2
            Possibly. I just don’t remember the Piper prefix in the film. Bayard is just mentioned.
      2. allexx83
        allexx83 30 March 2014 01: 00
        0
        In my opinion, it was about 6,35 mm bayard cartridges
  2. avt
    avt 29 March 2014 09: 47
    +2
    A good selection of articles recently on pistols good The weapon, one might say a cast of his time, is not so charismatic as Mauser, but rather solidly and originally. A kind of forerunner of the small-sized PP of our time.
  3. bunta
    bunta 29 March 2014 11: 10
    +2
    http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Berg/berg.html

    Very good review on the Bergman pistols. Recommend.
  4. Walking
    Walking 29 March 2014 11: 18
    0
    Great photo
  5. kav669
    kav669 29 March 2014 13: 58
    0
    Mauser went from him? interesting material
  6. Sledgehammer
    Sledgehammer 29 March 2014 14: 44
    0
    Powerful and large pistol gun. Put a more spacious store
    and a butt, a good carbine will work.
  7. Captain45
    Captain45 29 March 2014 14: 46
    +2
    Quote: AlNikolaich
    Her. Gruzdev had a lady’s Piper Bayard of the 6,35 caliber.

    "- There is a bullet. Well, what will be the judgments?
    - It appears so, bullet 6,35 from "omega" or "bayard"
    “And from what does this follow?”
    - Six grooves with the right direction, the handwriting is quite characteristic. "(C)" Era of Mercy "Br. Vynery
    And on the "Bayard" Gruzdev on the bolt carrier there was a stamp in the form of a knight with a spear.
    1. cyberspace
      cyberspace 29 March 2014 15: 58
      +1
      Quote: Captain45
      on "Bayard" Gruzdev on the bolt carrier there was a stamp in the form of a knight with a spear.

      In this case, Gruzdev had a Bayard model of 1930, they were produced in three versions - 9K (aka 9 mm Browning short or .380 auto), 7,65 and smaller sizes 6,35 mm.
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 29 March 2014 21: 27
        0
        Gruzdev also had a pack of cartridges for the pistol. But he charged the killer with a "suitable caliber." 9 disappears. 6.35 for Fox is unlikely. 7.65 left
        1. Captain45
          Captain45 30 March 2014 20: 06
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          Quote: Andrey77
          Fox's 6.35 is unlikely. 7.65 remains

          "That is why the killer charged the first ones in size" (c) "Era of Mercy" brothers Vinera.
          Fox charged the 7,62 mm cartridge with the TT. In the same place:
          "Due to the fact that the cartridge is non-standard, the individual characteristics of the weapon were clearly manifested."
  8. uwzek
    uwzek 30 March 2014 05: 01
    +1
    In the thirties, the USSR produced 6,35 mm cartridge for the Korovin pistol, it was slightly different from the western 6,35 Browning cartridge. Most likely he used Fox.
    1. cyberspace
      cyberspace 30 March 2014 07: 49
      0
      The 6,35 cartridge of the Soviet release was distinguished only by an enhanced charge of gunpowder, otherwise they were completely identical.
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 30 March 2014 15: 39
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        Why is Fox so exotic? Is he an ammo collector?
    2. Andrey77
      Andrey77 30 March 2014 15: 37
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      Korovin's gun did not go into the series. And it's about 45-48 years. If Fox has such an exotic ... he’s definitely not a gangster. :)
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 30 March 2014 21: 14
        +1
        Quote: Andrey77
        Korovin's gun did not go into the series

        Not really yours! The TK pistol was the first serial pistol of the USSR, was produced until the end of the 30, and was very popular among the command staff and party leaders. And it was not a rarity!
  9. Captain45
    Captain45 30 March 2014 20: 11
    0
    In general, to the topic of weapons, brothers, seriously, reread thoughtfully "The Era of Mercy". Everyone has seen the film, but read the book request