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How is the Russian industry?

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From expert agencies received data on the growth of the Russian industry on the basis of 2013 year. As it turned out, the growth really was, however, its values ​​are minimal since the 2010 year. The increment was fixed at 0,2-0,3%. For comparison, it is worthwhile to present the values ​​of the growth of the Russian industrial sector in other years: 2010 year - growth around 8%, 2011 year - 4,7%, 2012 year - 2,55%. If there are no major structural changes in the industrial sector, then in 2014, Russia's industrial growth may be replaced by a recession, and this, for obvious reasons, will have a negative impact on the entire Russian economy, which, by and large, is far away at this stage not in the best condition.


How is the Russian industry?


The decline in growth is due to several reasons. One of these reasons is the decline in the total number of manufacturing enterprises and the employees involved in them. Over the past 10 years (since 2003 of the year), the number of industry subjects has decreased by 4600 units. In percentage terms, this reduction does not look terrifying (about 1,2%), but first of all it is a reduction, and the trend looks, to put it mildly, bleak.

The management of a number of industrial enterprises, which remained afloat after the 2008-2010 crisis, was forced to “optimize” the staff. Replacing the new-minded term “optimization” with what it really means, we obtain a banal reduction in workplaces and, accordingly, a reduction in employees of enterprises. For example: where 7-8 worked 2000 people years ago, today there are no more than one and a half thousand workers. At the same time, the opening up of new production in terms of the number of people employed in the industrial segment of the state, unfortunately, are not yet able to compensate for the "optimization" losses. This led to the fact that not only the rate of industrial growth, but also such an important economic indicator as the contribution of industry to gross value added decreased. In other words, the industry began to give a lower economic return than it was just a few years ago. While in 2005-2006, such a contribution was more than 32%, in 2013 it fell below 30%. This is despite the fact that over the years 10 industrial production in the Russian Federation has grown by about 47%. It says that the quantity of goods produced does not always translate into quality, which means that they are far from always in steady demand among the population.

Experts from the FBK Institute for Strategic Analysis (“Financial and Accounting Consultants”) note that lately in Russia the failure to comply with production plans in different segments of production activity has become a trend. The automotive industry plan in 2013 was not fulfilled by about 2-3%. Failure to comply with plans for the production of agricultural machinery looks much more significant - in tractor construction alone, the “shortfall” was more than 40%! The figure is certainly talking about a lot ...

How does the factual self-indulgence in the fulfillment of plans explain how such industrialists themselves? One explanation is as follows: at the time when the production plan was already approved, the demand for domestic products (the same cars and tractors) “unexpectedly” decreased — that is, we therefore decided to reduce production so as not to work for ourselves lesion. But in a number of cases, the owners of enterprises went to reduce the level of production, having received state financial preferences and investments for the very approved plans and programs ... This raises the question: did the investments in private industrial companies from the state budget go exclusively to the benefit of production in full? or did something else happen that I just don’t want to talk about once again - a banal and clumsy fraud? .. A rhetorical question ... Too suspicious in some cases look something that manufacturers are going to reduce the level of production is after the government gives them money for new projects.

Perhaps this is the situation when some gentlemen from among the major Russian industrialists may well engage in an evil game with state investments, prompted the Ministry of Industry and Trade to prepare a draft law on the regulation of state-owned industrial enterprises. Denis Manturov, Minister of Industry and Trade, is a member of the working group that is currently preparing this draft law.

The bill itself, which this working group can “give birth to”, is aimed at this: the authorities will be able to support successful industrial enterprises based on the letter of the law. Until now, the regulation of state subsidies and investment of private industries, in fact, has not been properly written anywhere. It got to the point that while the president personally does not intervene in the situation, no tax or other benefits, no investments from the state could be obtained even by a completely successful Russian enterprise. And if they did, then often through all the “charms” of a corruption conspiracy. This also led to the fact that many production owners were forced to follow the path of avoiding full-scale payment of taxes, the way of paying salaries "in envelopes", being defamed with personnel. If the new bill is drafted in the near future, and is designed taking into account various managerial, economic and other nuances, then industry entities will be able to receive from the state the right to preferential or completely free use of land, certain equipment and even real estate objects.

For understandable reasons, the work on such a bill should be carried out with the joint participation of both government agencies and industrialists themselves. It would be nice to involve a third party, which would act as a kind of arbiter in the formation of the main points of the future law on state support measures. Today, such a third party can (with a large, true, stretch) call the Public Council under the Ministry of Industry and Trade.

If the bill is drafted in haste without taking into account the interests of all parties (and the interests of the economy as well), then in the end it may turn out to be a non-quality document regulating public-private partnership in the production sphere, and something special - something that will allow “chosen ones” Industrialists not only receive state investments and use them entirely at their discretion, but also dispose of real estate objects owned by the state.

The Ministry of Industry and Trade understands the significance of the future law, because it will be able to stimulate those production entities that work on transparent conditions, showing decent growth, and therefore they are talking about the possibility of creating a National Industrial Council - a body that will include representatives of industrial companies and the state and the public. In what “proportions” the representation in the NPS will be implemented - while the question is open.

By the way, now the Russian industry has an excellent chance to demonstrate quite good growth if its subjects work not only for the pocket of their owner, but also for the domestic economy. This chance is associated with an impressive subsidence of the ruble. If production is conducted on the Russian raw material base, and at the same time high-quality products are created, then this product has an indisputable advantage over the products of foreign competitors - price. True, in our economy and here is not so simple. Owners of industrial enterprises, seeing that foreign goods have risen in value in ruble terms due to the growth of the dollar and euro, can not resist the desire to break the price for their goods if they see a growing demand for it. Here, state intervention could also be fully justified - at least at the current stage.
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  1. Gardamir
    Gardamir 21 February 2014 07: 41
    +18
    But. Maybe I misunderstood something, but socialist methods of economic management were not so ineffective. I just want to shout: "Hey, you, up there, do not be afraid that you are accused of returning to socialism. The main thing is more good and different factories."
    1. invisibility
      invisibility 21 February 2014 08: 26
      +12
      Yeah, they stole the national property in order to manage efficiently, and then return it! Our government seems to have a sound filter, it cuts off our screams!
      1. rozowik
        rozowik 21 February 2014 09: 30
        +2
        Return? As for the return, no one promised anything)
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 21 February 2014 09: 45
          +2
          The trend is worthless. In January, the industrial production decline is 1,8%. The ruble is falling. 1 euro-49,19 rubles., 1 dollar-35,75 rubles. The economy is slowly falling down, while stagnation is with a downward trend. Is the crisis approaching?
          1. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 21 February 2014 12: 16
            +4
            baltika-18 "The trend is lousy. In January, the decline in industrial production is 1,8%. The ruble falls. 1 euro-49,19 rubles, 1 dollar-35,75 rubles. The economy is slowly falling down, while stagnation with a tendency to decline. ? "
            Well, what are you ... our economy is booming and is going through a period of dawn. Factories equipped with the best equipment in the world operate and create competitive products. Thanks to the wise decisions of our beloved management, the reconstruction of production enterprises has been carried out.
            The welfare of the people is growing steadily, and we are approaching in this indicator to the very highest peaks. And what they write about the poverty in which our people live is a blatant and cynical lie. And when I hear that a nurse in some city of Buguruslan receives 5 thousand rubles, I don’t believe it. It's a lie! In fact, she is paid more - just a person is not in the know.
            Do not accept at your own expense. Just inspired. Hehe hehe ... And the Komsomol members will appear right now and competently and enlighten us, they will enlighten us and explain that we are mistaken ... they know that ... hehe hehe ...
            1. Papakiko
              Papakiko 21 February 2014 17: 05
              0
              Quote: Nagaibak
              And the Komsomol members will now appear and competently and enlighten us, and explain that we are mistaken ... they already know that ... hehe hehe ...

              For this you need to go to the "doneunas", there are many pivopatriots.
              But just do not need to dump everything in one pile.
              A lot is being built in the country and many projects are being implemented !!
              Agriculture is wholly "grateful" to officials for "taking care" of the farmers.
              Although there are quite a few projects that go against the health of neighboring citizens.
              True, in our economy here is not so simple. The owners of industrial enterprises, seeing that in ruble terms foreign goods have risen in price due to the growth of the dollar and the euro, may not resist the urge to break up the price of their goods if they see a growing demand for it.
              This applies to the fuel and energy sector and metallurgists. In these sectors, most enterprises feed foreign mouths (shareholders, co-owners).
              Offices such as Nestlé, Pepsi, Coca-Cola, etc. in the food chain, prices will definitely rise.
              1998 remember those who forgot and get ready those who still went under the table.
              By the way, now Russian industry has a great chance to demonstrate good growth if its entities work not only for the pocket of its owner, but also for the domestic economy. This chance is associated with an impressive subsidence of the ruble. If production is conducted on the Russian raw material base, and at the same time high-quality products are created, then these products have an undeniable advantage over the products of foreign competitors - the price.
              Alexey showed a good memory, well done !!!
              1. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 21 February 2014 18: 54
                +1
                Papakiko "But you don't have to lump everything together."
                This is not a heap. This is a banter if you do not understand.
                Papakiko "Much is being built in the country and many projects are being implemented !!"
                I agree. It is being done. But, everything is too painful as it is haphazard. There is a piece, here is a piece, some fragments behind which the general picture is not seen. And on the exhaust? "0"? They will fulfill the state order for this year - good. And then? Following? Who's planning? Or is it not necessary to plan at least basic things? Someone will say that it is already planned for three years, but this is crap no one does anything special. Fail program after program. Reform after reform. And only for the elections we have such activity))) everyone wakes up and gets to work. I'm talking about ...
              2. Shur
                Shur 21 February 2014 20: 04
                0
                By the way, this advantage (the nominal value of the renminbi) is used by the Chinese, now their goods have fallen in price slightly ..
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    3. Interface
      Interface 21 February 2014 10: 36
      +3
      “Vedomosti” wrote that Rusal is on the verge of bankruptcy, in European Russia practically all metallurgical plants served the law, because we ourselves do not need this steel in the country. In our country, only the military-industrial complex consumes it, and there is no more demand!
      1. brainkiller
        brainkiller 21 February 2014 10: 46
        +1
        Quote: Interface
        The vedomosti wrote that we have Rusal on the verge of bankruptcy,
        Look! This is the answer to the question why the ruble is getting cheaper. The price of aluminum (and indeed metal) from year to year falls amid falling demand. By and large, now we are trying to save the industry, possibly at the same time as exacerbating the dumping of metal prices.
        The owners of industrial enterprises, seeing that in ruble terms foreign goods have risen in price due to the growth of the dollar and the euro, can not resist the desire to break up the price of their goods if they see a growing demand for it. Here, government intervention could also be fully justified - at least at the current stage.
        and this statement of the author of the article says how far he is from current realities
      2. ultra
        ultra 21 February 2014 16: 04
        0
        Quote: Interface
        in European Russia, almost all metallurgical plants served the law,

        And where such information comes from! I live in Lipetsk, the largest metallurgical plant in Europe is located here, my brother works there, a bunch of friends and no one have heard of any conservation! Everyone works in three shifts seven days a week! hi
        1. little man
          little man 21 February 2014 20: 34
          0
          And how is the salary?
          Well, at least not reductions, all 3 shifts - glory to Father Lisin.
    4. smart ass
      smart ass 21 February 2014 11: 44
      -4
      socialist methods of managing the economy were not so ineffective

      The administrative-command system will always be ineffective

      You can simply compare the economies of 2 states on one peninsula. North and South Korea.

      South Korea is in the 12th place in the world in terms of economic development: in 10th place in energy consumption, 6th in oil consumption.

      Zeke, samsung, deo, hyundai, cue do not tell you anything?
      I will not say anything about the north.
      1. hello
        hello 21 February 2014 15: 27
        +3
        You just forget that North Korea is actually in a blockade, and South is the US satellite, to which the road is open everywhere and without restrictions.
  2. cobalt
    cobalt 21 February 2014 07: 46
    +21
    An industry cannot function without a good, professional worker. It is necessary to raise the status of a working person in our country, otherwise we have in "high esteem" continuous "effective managers", hucksters, and all sorts of media-empty talkers and model shoppers. It is necessary to pay a good salary to a hard worker and a collective farmer, to provide them with modern equipment, you look industry and agriculture will work.
    1. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 08: 24
      +7
      but we hold other people in high esteem nowadays, but such as: TV presenters, "artists", pop music, athletes, humorists, all kinds of gums and other parasites.
    2. atk44849
      atk44849 21 February 2014 09: 08
      +10
      I myself am a mechanic diesel engineer + EHS. They offer work in the Big Stone Plant Zvezda for 25-3o thousand. But in the garage at my place I earn more than 2.5 times. but the Uzbeks, I think, will agree and repair for 15000 submarines! By the way, the salary of the leading staff is from 1000000 to 3000000. but I want to feed my family and help the motherland!
      1. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 09: 30
        +5
        Unfortunately, people like you are not needed by the country's leadership. Sad but true. And how many specialists left the country? it's worse than any war!
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 21 February 2014 11: 06
        +4
        Quote: atk44849
        I myself am a mechanic diesel engineer + EHS

        I’m also a mechanical engineer, professional, experienced. But the last 10 years, my profession doesn’t seem to be necessary. I had to live, 10 years ago I opened a funeral home, then I started to engage in the installation and manufacture of metal structures (still closer to the main profession), but I get the bulk of the money in the ritual. That's .... what
        1. Shur
          Shur 21 February 2014 20: 12
          0
          Demand creates supply, sad but true.
      3. vyatom
        vyatom 21 February 2014 15: 57
        +2
        Jobs at the Admiralty Shipyards. Welder, housing worker salary 15-25 tr Given the harmfulness of work, try to live with dignity in St. Petersburg for such a salary. Rent a room costs from 10 TR
      4. Shur
        Shur 21 February 2014 20: 11
        0
        Once G. Ford began to pay his workers the highest salary in the industry, and even if he was a Nazi, he knew the matter .. The most qualified personnel flocked to him.
    3. slon53
      slon53 21 February 2014 10: 18
      +4
      An engineer should be here, but you need to prepare them, and if you take exams and tests at institutes for money, the prospects are rather disappointing. There is a separate discussion about salaries - in any industry a worker, an engineer receives several times, ten times less than top managers. This imbalance needs to be eliminated, but management salaries are a trade secret, primarily from their workers.
      1. Mstislav
        Mstislav 21 February 2014 10: 59
        0
        And the "salaries" of officials and deputies of the state secret.
    4. slon53
      slon53 21 February 2014 10: 18
      0
      An engineer should be here, but you need to prepare them, and if you take exams and tests at institutes for money, the prospects are rather disappointing. There is a separate discussion about salaries - in any industry a worker, an engineer receives several times, ten times less than top managers. This imbalance needs to be eliminated, but management salaries are a trade secret, primarily from their workers.
    5. Letun
      Letun 21 February 2014 12: 33
      +5
      Quote: cobalt
      An industry cannot function without a good, professional worker. It is necessary to raise the status of a working person in our country, otherwise we have in "high esteem" continuous "effective managers", hucksters, and all sorts of media-empty talkers and model shoppers. It is necessary to pay a good salary to a hard worker and a collective farmer, to provide them with modern equipment, you look industry and agriculture will work.

      In "Arguments and Facts" a couple of weeks ago they wrote that at the last Olympiad held for people of blue-collar professions (I was very surprised when I learned that there was such an Olympiad smile ) our hard workers (as I understand it, graduates of vocational schools and their foreign counterparts are participating) took the last (!) place. They are not preparing workers for us now. I'm not talking about modern domestic machine tool building. Should a war happen, they will block our supply of spare parts and technological equipment and 80% of the industry will rise.
    6. Shur
      Shur 21 February 2014 20: 08
      0
      And if we go further, then finally it is realistic to raise private enterprise.
    7. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 22 February 2014 02: 49
      +1
      Quote: cobalt
      Industry cannot function without a good, professional worker.

      How long? The first bell has already rung.

      what

      Next year, Apple plans to invest $ 100 million to deploy a Mac plant. Small costs for such a corporation would hardly have attracted attention if it were not for one interesting fact.
      The new plant will be almost completely robotic. In other words, the entire production cycle from the aluminum billet to the finished product packaged in a box will be carried out practically without human intervention.

      The machine-tool plant in Yamazaki (Japan) is widely known among modern automated enterprises. It consists of 18 flexible automated production centers capable of performing a wide variety of machining and metal profiling operations, as well as a number of other automated systems for various purposes. The transfer of workpieces and assemblies from machine to machine is performed automatically under computer control. All work of the enterprise, including accounting, financial reporting and production management, occurs automatically. In the reception of the plant there is an information board, which presents the current data on the volume of products; these readings change every 45 minutes: during this time, on average, one Mazzak machine is assembled. The company operates in three shifts: the first one is occupied seven people, in the second - five, and in the third, night, work goes on at all without people.
  3. saag
    saag 21 February 2014 07: 53
    +5
    Quote: Gardamir
    I just want to shout: "Hey, you, up there, do not be afraid to accuse you of returning to socialism. The main thing is more good and different factories."

    You see, the GDP chose conservatism, this is how he explained so as not to roll back to the past, but to preserve the best present
    1. Orik
      Orik 21 February 2014 09: 26
      +3
      Quote: saag
      Quote: Gardamir
      I just want to shout: "Hey, you, up there, do not be afraid to accuse you of returning to socialism. The main thing is more good and different factories."

      You see, the GDP chose conservatism, this is how he explained so as not to roll back to the past, but to preserve the best present

      A sad joke ...
      1. saag
        saag 21 February 2014 09: 32
        +3
        This is reality
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 21 February 2014 09: 45
      +4
      He is wrong and very much. I would take all the good from the past and step with it into the future. You look and people would be pulled. In the meantime, only slogans.
  4. parus2nik
    parus2nik 21 February 2014 08: 02
    +8
    How are Russian industry doing? The patient is more likely dead than alive .. We are trying to repair ships to Ukraine, cheaper .. and there are two ship repair plants in the city .. But one is not already doing repairs, the equipment is sold out .. there is no working staff, some managers are a private trader .. The second is semi-state, barely breathing in the air, for the same reasons .. And for the rest of the Russian Azov-Black Sea coast the same picture ...
    1. demel2
      demel2 21 February 2014 09: 24
      +10
      You’re breathing even better, but we still have everything in Vladivostok, and before the summit, the entire fleet, which was left miraculously, was expelled from the port so that the authorities would not be an eyesore with their shameful appearance, and they would all safely go to Korea.
  5. poccinin
    poccinin 21 February 2014 08: 11
    +5
    yes, not everything is so bad. there is a non-governmental website "MADE BY US" there is the whole industry of RUSSIA what we produce and what we are building. photographs and comments. where it decreased and somewhere it was added. The wages of workers should be raised at the expense of the "OFFICE". "ADMINISTRATIONS" OF THE ENTERPRISE .THE PEOPLE are not measured. the deputy sits on a substitute and each computer and receives 30-000 each. And the workers 40-000 and everywhere pensioners are sitting.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 21 February 2014 09: 20
      -9
      Managers always and everywhere receive and get more workers, what is the problem? Workers have normal salaries, most of them sit on the deal and get much more. than 10-15 thousand. And if you are not comfortable, you can always go to study and then get a job at least as a master.
      1. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 09: 51
        +1
        and everyone will be masters ...
        1. little man
          little man 21 February 2014 21: 15
          +1
          Quote: Ivan Petrovich
          and everyone will be masters ...

          Well, with the union, the worker (150-200 rubles) received well, no less than an engineer (120 rubles), something like this
          What now? Yes, pay a hard worker a decent salary of 100t.r. how many of them are with our population (and discard children, old people ..)? So what for - there are so many Gaster!
          That’s the dying of the country
      2. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 21 February 2014 12: 13
        +4
        The problem is in the number of these managers per worker, as well as in efficiency - the management is now called "effective managers".
        1. anomalocaris
          anomalocaris 21 February 2014 17: 12
          0
          Average 1,75. But the "effective managers" have a slightly different salary than the hard workers who serve them.
      3. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris 21 February 2014 17: 09
        0
        Nude Nude. What baby moon have you fallen from?
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    3. demel2
      demel2 21 February 2014 09: 27
      +2
      I also often look at this site, but when you look at what's happening around you, even this site does not add faith.
  6. Name
    Name 21 February 2014 08: 18
    +7
    While the minister receives a salary regardless of the state of his department (and Manturov’s income is more than 100 million rubles per year), you can’t wait for changes ... recourse
    1. Alex66
      Alex66 21 February 2014 12: 51
      0
      Yes, the salary is good, but I think it is not an incentive for him, but before there was an incentive - LIFE.
  7. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 08: 18
    0
    On the culture of production. Imagine that you gave our, amers, Chinese, Germans, Japanese, absolutely identical drawings of any complex technical product (well, for example, an airplane, let’s say Yak-130) and that they would produce 100 each. In theory, everything should be exactly the same, but in life we ​​know that this is not so. Question: Whose device is faster than Jopnezza?
    1. demel2
      demel2 21 February 2014 09: 29
      +4
      I think first Chinese, then ours.
  8. saag
    saag 21 February 2014 08: 23
    +4
    Quote: Ivan Petrovich
    Imagine that you gave our, amers, Chinese, Germans, Japanese, absolutely identical drawings of any complex technical product (well, for example, an airplane, let’s say Yak-130) and that they would produce 100 each. In theory, everything should be exactly the same

    and all placed production in China :-)
  9. mountain
    mountain 21 February 2014 08: 50
    0
    The state needs to oblige to support not only its enterprises but also private ones by placing state orders on them. And make them mobilization with subsidies. I had such a production, and the state transferred to us annually, although not a lot of money.
    1. Shur
      Shur 21 February 2014 20: 18
      0
      This is the ultimate buzz, but as a rule, officials with very "successful" relatives who happen to be the owners of private companies get into such schemes.
  10. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 09: 03
    +4
    interesting, but how much money do we still lose on preparing for the World Cup? another winter universiade (which we deliberately handed to us) and a whole bunch of everything ...
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 21 February 2014 09: 22
      0
      Well, they will tell you - so many billions of dollars and then what - mumble in the kitchen or go out onto the red square with a picket ??
      1. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 09: 49
        +2
        probably they’ll shoot ... because then I will be an enemy of the state
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    3. brainkiller
      brainkiller 21 February 2014 10: 20
      -1
      30 comments - not a single case, all 20-year-old stamps - ala country was blown away!
      Not tired of yourself?
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      interesting, but how much money do we still lose on preparing for the World Cup? another winter universiade (which we deliberately handed to us) and a whole bunch of everything ..

      if there weren’t projects like the Olympics, the World Cup for football and the Universiades, then the fall of the industry would be even stronger and not miserable 2-4% and all 30-40% so be afraid of your desires. When you have money, you need to spend it on large infrastructure projects (including the Msk-Kazan highway, for example.
  11. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 21 February 2014 09: 25
    +3
    How are things with Russian industry? It’s shitty, very, very shitty, and the worse the worse, the work was not held in high esteem, sold, clowns, and body in work, such a country was ... or ... Where did the high-paid workers get it in some places, if the same seller is driving everything, they only care about their skin, even ITR workers who change their skills to sales, have to ..
  12. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 09: 58
    +4
    here our president drives a Merc, which does not make us feel proud. If he went to say ZIL, then it would be just normal, and it should be so when the first person of a great state drives a carriage of his own production. But when the German Chancellor Merkel would go to the Zile, it really would cause pride for our country.
  13. runway
    runway 21 February 2014 09: 59
    +6
    "It looks too suspicious in a number of cases that industrialists are going to cut the level of production just after the state gives them money for new projects."
    What kind of state is it that cannot ask for money issued to it? But if you look at the problem from the other side? If a VOR, who has the opportunity to launch his hands in the state treasury, gives our money to another VOR, so that under the pretext of restoring Russian production, to divide this money among themselves, then everything falls into place. With a general decline in production in the country, the number of oligarchs continues to grow. What time! At the same time, none of those who have the opportunity to run their little hands in the state treasury was not imprisoned. And who will plant them? But I remember that A. Navalny promised.
  14. Semurg
    Semurg 21 February 2014 10: 15
    0
    Yes, if in Russia the decline in industrial production with inflation, then bad times await the TS, just like Russia, this is 80-85% of the TS industry.
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 21 February 2014 10: 26
      0
      Quote: Semurg
      Yes, if in Russia the decline in industrial production with inflation, then bad times await the TS, just like Russia, this is 80-85% of the TS industry.
      and Kazakhstan 80-85% of raw materials (if we talk about metal) so everything is fine. Recession is observed everywhere. But in the near future there will be large orders for tanks.
    2. atalef
      atalef 21 February 2014 10: 53
      +1
      Quote: Semurg
      Yes, if in Russia the decline in industrial production with inflation, then bad times await the TS, just like Russia, this is 80-85% of the TS industry.

      In general, tenge devaluation in the Kyrgyz Republic is a direct consequence
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 21 February 2014 11: 48
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Semurg
        Yes, if in Russia the decline in industrial production with inflation, then bad times await the TS, just like Russia, this is 80-85% of the TS industry.

        In general, tenge devaluation in the Kyrgyz Republic is a direct consequence

        For reference, the Kyrgyz Republic is the Kyrgyz Republic. RK is the Republic of Kazakhstan (of course, it’s not important, but it’s more accurate) and yes, with the devaluation of the tenge, this is one of the reasons.
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  15. pensioner
    pensioner 21 February 2014 10: 25
    +5
    Just yesterday we went to the factory where I used to work with a friend of my son. He came from the army, wanted to get a job at the plant. It seems to have attached it. Yes, and the guy liked it ... So far, the post of technician with s.p. 20 000 rub. But he is without education ... So: for starters - fine ... And the plant (MIC) lives according to my ideas (and compared with the early 2000s) - great! I am very sorry that I left ... Well, okay ...
  16. FID
    FID 21 February 2014 10: 29
    +7
    Already a million times he wrote that there are no corny workers at the aircraft factories. I don’t know about Irkut, but Aviastar WAS NOT ABLE TO RECEIVE WORKERS in the 2013 year ....
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 21 February 2014 10: 31
      +3
      Quote: SSI
      Already a million times he wrote that there are no corny workers at the aircraft factories. I don’t know about Irkut, but Aviastar WAS NOT ABLE TO RECEIVE WORKERS in the 2013 year ....

      in 2014 will pick up at the expense of refugees from Ukraine.
      1. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 21 February 2014 12: 15
        0
        This is sad. But you are right.
    2. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 10: 45
      0
      as far as I know you are connected with the aviation industry. And how much do workers get in the industry? Ulyanovsk is one of the poorest cities, by the way, like there should be a lot of labor.
    3. atalef
      atalef 21 February 2014 10: 54
      0
      Quote: SSI
      I don’t know about Irkut, but Aviastar couldn’t pick up workers in 2013 ....

      Hello, Sergey!
      Good morning
      And for what reason? Are there few or no qualified personnel?
      1. FID
        FID 21 February 2014 11: 03
        +1
        15000-20000 (I think so), there are not enough riveters, locksmiths, the level of salaries is approximately, because salaries were not disclosed. Do not go to work at the factory. From the New City to Ulyanovsk go to work ...
        1. FID
          FID 21 February 2014 11: 14
          +1
          Here, what I know more or less accurately, is the salary at TANTK (Taganrog). There are 10000-15000.
        2. Ivan Petrovich
          Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 14: 00
          0
          Well, yes, among young people working in a factory is probably a bit of a bitch. So brought up what now
          1. Sour
            Sour 21 February 2014 14: 23
            0
            Quote: Ivan Petrovich
            Well, yes, among young people working in a factory is probably a bit of a bitch.

            Not only that.
            There is a shortage of skilled workers not only in factories, but everywhere - in construction and transport.
            There are simply no people in the country. Employment bureaus are either a very small number of "white collars" looking for work strictly in their specialty, or a complete drunkenness, which no one takes. I myself am an employer, familiar with this.
            But nevertheless, people who are sick in their heads (including on this site) are not transferred, who scream something about mass unemployment, about the fact that "the government wants to replace local workers with migrants." Where did they see this unemployment? In the Caucasian auls? Or in small towns with a population of 5-10 thousand? In large cities, there is really a shortage of labor, not unemployment.
          2. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 21 February 2014 18: 38
            0
            Ivan Petrovich "Well, yes, working at the factory is probably a zap among young people. So they brought up, what now"
            We have young in the oil industry is not particularly torn. On horseradish ass freeze on the street or gusts eliminate waist-deep in fuel oil. It’s better to have a white shirt in the supermarket as a security guard or menchendiser (forgive me, God ...))) hanging out in the heat ..
    4. Volkhov
      Volkhov 21 February 2014 14: 01
      0
      And where to get them physically - they are not even in prisons, the workers are an endangered species.
      Real population Russian citizens approximately 70 million, with a displaced age and gender composition. Those who are suitable as workers in the aviation industry are needed by the army and the cops and officials, not to mention business. These are healthy Russian people with labor discipline, but only for the last year, for military reasons, there are 20 less.
  17. Alex66
    Alex66 21 February 2014 10: 34
    +5
    It is clear from the information provided that the Medvedev government is not coping with its responsibilities. It is foolish to rely on "investors", they will not solve our problems, their task is to make money with us, which they do. It is necessary to start introducing elements of a planned economy in heavy industry and agriculture, while leaving light and consumer goods production in the market for now.
    1. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 10: 47
      +1
      It is high time! but we have semi-impotents rule everything or just traitors
      1. smart ass
        smart ass 21 February 2014 11: 57
        +4
        For half a year in Russia, about 650 thousand small entrepreneurs and farmers closed their business. Professional associations as the main reason called an increase in insurance premiums and talk about the massive departure in the "shadow". The government has not yet agreed on a reduction in contributions, but entrepreneurs are already agreeing to temporarily draw up additional reporting for the Pension Fund - as long as the contributions are reduced.

        The number of individual entrepreneurs who closed their businesses since the beginning of this year has reached 531,9 thousand, according to statistics from the Federal Tax Service. The decision to stop work was also made by 18,2 thousand farmers. As of June 1, the number of entrepreneurs and farms decreased to 2,636 million; as of January 1, there were more than 4 million.

        A significant increase in the number of those who decided to close the business began to increase since December last year. Then about 120 thousand FE were liquidated in a month. Entrepreneurs themselves attribute this to the government’s decision to increase insurance premiums for the self-employed almost doubled from 2013 to 35 thousand rubles (from 2 minimum wages), of which about 32,5 thousand are paid to the Pension Fund, and to the Compulsory Health Insurance Fund - 3185 rubles.
        As Oleg Saveliev, deputy head of the Ministry of Economic Development, said last week, according to statistics, one individual entrepreneur gives an average one more workplace. At the same time, the closure of entrepreneurs at the unemployment level did not affect. The department suspects that small business representatives have gone into the “shadow”.

        According to estimates by Business Russia, in 2012 alone, the budget lost 13,5 billion rubles in taxes to closed entrepreneurs, while it was additionally planned to receive 5,1 billion rubles.

        That is, net budget losses - 8,4 billion rubles, according to the organization.

        Data for 13 years!
        1. Hitrovan07
          Hitrovan07 21 February 2014 12: 17
          +4
          Conclusion - the Russian government is the enemy of Russia.
          1. Ivan Petrovich
            Ivan Petrovich 21 February 2014 14: 05
            0
            The conclusion is that you are simple :)
        2. Shur
          Shur 21 February 2014 20: 30
          +1
          The answer is, people don’t want to pay their money to this government .. I’m sure they are ready to help everyone in need, but seeing how the shameless treasury is being stolen, people don’t want to feed this pop-up that’s popped up.
  18. Begemot
    Begemot 21 February 2014 12: 34
    +2
    Well, how are things in the state? - They steal, sovereign! - So make a law so that you don’t steal.
    How's it going? - Tyryat, sovereign! - So make a law so you don’t rush.
    How's it going? - They steal again, sovereign! - So they issued the law so that they would not steal!
    Well, this is the year before last, and for the last time it was forbidden to poke, and so it became possible to steal !!
    as long as the rulers believe that by issuing a law they solve some problems, nothing will change for the better. Laws must be obeyed, and if the industrialist rested on budget money, it’s a headache, not a new law.
  19. loki565
    loki565 21 February 2014 12: 46
    +3
    THERE HAVE FUN:



  20. Tektor
    Tektor 21 February 2014 13: 26
    +2
    In a market economy, the reduction of enterprises to an uncritical level that supports competition is good, because released production volumes will be redistributed among those remaining afloat, and this will support them. It is only important that the enterprises operating on market principles remain, and not the scammers.
    1. Shur
      Shur 21 February 2014 20: 33
      0
      Or seized by imports ... We are now in the WTO, forgot?
  21. Sour
    Sour 21 February 2014 14: 14
    +1
    Well, let's order all the factories not to reduce production volumes, but to increase them.
    It is actually easy. From a technological point of view.
    But there is also a financial point of view. What is the point of increasing production if demand falls? But demand is cyclical. You will not buy a TV every year? And the car - even more so. And others will not.
    However, this does not bother some. Let the factories work for the warehouse (or for landfill), if only on paper there was an increase in production.
  22. forward
    forward 21 February 2014 14: 46
    0
    > If no major structural changes take place in the industrial sector, then in 2014 the growth of Russian industry may be replaced by a decline.

    What planet do you live on? And who are you talking about industry growth? You still say about agricultural growth. The only industry that somehow works is mining, because you have to suck everything from the earth and profit. There is no other industry, neither light nor heavy, no.
    1. Sour
      Sour 21 February 2014 14: 53
      0
      Quote: forward
      You still say about agricultural growth.

      But I’ll take it and say it.
      Over the past 5 years in Russia, pork production has increased 2,2 times, i.e. by 120%. The share of imported poultry in the Russian market decreased from 47% to 11%.
      You do not know? So stay informed.
  23. atalef
    atalef 21 February 2014 14: 56
    0
    Quote: Sour
    Over the past 5 years in Russia, pork production has increased 2,2 times, i.e. by 120%. The share of imported poultry in the Russian market decreased from 47% to 11%.

    What about cabbage? wassat
    However, experts warn that investment projects for growing cabbage should be considered in the long term from 5 to 10 years minimum, as prices for it can change dozens of times from year to year, depending on the yield of a particular year. Therefore, in Russia there are no farmers specializing solely and exclusively on the cultivation of cabbage. In one year, this product can give a profitability of up to 500%
    1. Sour
      Sour 21 February 2014 14: 58
      +4
      Quote: atalef
      What about cabbage?

      I don’t know, I don’t own statistics. But personally, I have enough cabbage. And it costs a penny, except for color.
      And you, Mr. Srailtyanin, like a sickle in one place that our agriculture has not completely collapsed? Bear with us, we will still have some fun. And we’ll survive you.
      1. atalef
        atalef 21 February 2014 16: 14
        +2
        Quote: Sour
        And you, Mr. Srailtyanin, like a sickle in one place that our agriculture has not completely collapsed?

        Are you friends with your head?
        I just love cabbage and asked how with cabbage? Or you have a persecution mania that's all crime see belay

        Quote: Sour
        Bear with us, we will still have some fun. And we’ll survive you.

        You live to 120. Believe me, your existence in no way touches me and does not infringe.
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 21 February 2014 23: 48
        0
        Quote: Sour
        And you, Mr. Srailtyanin
        laughing good
        Quote: Sour
        sickle in one place
        yes repeat
        Quote: Sour
        Be patient

        good hi
        1. Lesnik
          Lesnik 22 February 2014 01: 28
          0
          In vain are you Jura they are the natural enemies of Muslims - the enemy of my enemy is my friend
  24. valokordin
    valokordin 21 February 2014 17: 08
    +6
    The Russian economy is shrinking like shagreen leather and this is obvious, there is no economic plan, no one sets development goals. It has been outlined, and now the economic strangulation of the country is being implemented. Capital is exported in billions, investments are nullified. The television chatter about successes with the participation of the president serves to brainwash the people. We are being pinched from all sides. The effectiveness of the owners, which the prime minister crowed was complete nonsense. Our bourgeoisie is not national, but collaborationist. They will seize the enterprise and go bankrupt and wash away. Now it’s fashionable for state-owned companies to plant parasites from the ruling elite in the form of directors. A board of directors of 20-30 people is formed in the company, when one and 2-3 substitutes are enough. And now, the members of these councils are robbing enterprises, receiving unthinkable dividends, not answering for anything. And when they get fired they get parachutes. The proposal to limit parachutes to 2 annual earnings is unthinkable. For example, annual salary Chubais 25mln. rubles. So he decided to go to another bread place, get 50 million. The whole system of power is built on a robbery of the people. I would like to ask the capitalist ministers where are 25 million new jobs? Or everything is already forgotten until the next election. Why Yanukovych allowed the Maidan, the answer is simple, he went bankrupt, even ignored the friendly help. The State Department probably gave him a big jackpot, which he could not refuse.
    1. Shur
      Shur 21 February 2014 20: 43
      +2
      That's right, there is actually no generally intelligible policy of industrial development. One NANO .. Chubais should sit down for good and for a long time, or to London where all the thieves from Russia flee. All this "market strategy" imposed by the West through Yel'kina is nothing more than muddied by the CIA. The collapse of infrastructure, industry, health care, chaos and, as a result, civil war. There are a lot of interviews with "former" associates hiding in different holes about the role of this organization. All of them claim that in every country the "victim" has high-ranking agents of influence and simply "traitors". Take a closer look at "our" top. Especially for the iPhone camp. Comprador bunch of "government" type but read it for yourself
      http://www.politpros.com/journal/read/?ID=1349&
  25. twviewer
    twviewer 21 February 2014 17: 26
    +4
    "By the way, now the Russian industry has an excellent chance to demonstrate good growth. This chance is associated with an impressive sinking of the ruble."

    he laughed heartily; subsidence will not give anything but another round of inflation and rising tariffs for energy resources, which will further reduce the profitability of production, in addition, the enterprise will be unable to buy new (imported) equipment, and will not be able to increase production efficiency.

    so that industry will soon be kirdyk, there is no preferential loans or preferential taxes for production, there will be only speculators, but maybe the defense industry

    Threat fall of the ruble - this is just patching up budget holes at our expense.
  26. siberalt
    siberalt 21 February 2014 17: 51
    0
    Yeah! There is no industry, but hundreds of billions have gone over the hill. And what were they lying here?
  27. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 21 February 2014 18: 20
    +4
    What matters can a corpse have? Everything is stable ...
    Is that the policy - "Guns instead of oil", gives the military-industrial complex an oxygen cushion.
  28. Denbfrkas
    Denbfrkas 21 February 2014 19: 28
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlTNsekRoCc Вот как надо ПРОМЫШЛЕННОСТЬ поднимать.
  29. Technologist
    Technologist 22 February 2014 06: 06
    0
    Yes, we can say no industry!
  30. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 February 2014 10: 56
    0
    Yes, of course the production is in the pope. And the reasons for this have resulted above. If workers are kept on paychecks for 15-20 salaries, there is no need to talk about the influx of young personnel into the plant. And if they will come, then only for the period of improvement of skill. Want to keep the workers? Raise the social network. Allocate housing for young professionals and family. Kindergartens and products at wholesale prices. In the managers and sold, too, do not go from a good life. And their salaries are not everywhere that would be very large. In Vladik, for example, there are only a few companies with good earnings from ordinary members. Everything else at an average rate ...