New Indian BMP-2 Modernization Project

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At the Defexpo-2014 exhibition in India, several dozen countries showed their new developments in the field of weapons and military equipment. In addition, a number of companies demonstrated their options for upgrading various types of old equipment designed to enhance its combat capabilities. The Indian conglomerate Kalyani Group, namely its defense units, presented a new project for the modernization of the infantry fighting vehicle BMP-2. In the land forces of India there are a large number of vehicles of this type, which can be considered the reason for the emergence of the next project of its modernization.

In addition to Indian defense enterprises, the Israeli company Rafael took part in the development of the new BMP-2 modernization project. She provided a set of weapons and a number of special equipment. It is expected that the result of such international cooperation will be a significant increase in the characteristics and combat capabilities of the upgraded armored vehicles. However, at the moment the infantry combat vehicle, upgraded by the Kalyani Group project, exists only in the form of a full-scale mockup. That he was shown at the exhibition Defexpo-2014.

New Indian BMP-2 Modernization Project



As can be seen in the available photos, Indian designers propose to make significant changes in the design of the upgraded BMP-2. It is easy to see that the upper part of the armored hull layout is narrower than that of the base armored vehicle. This is best seen in the front of the car: it has a characteristic expanding shape. The reasons for this change in the hull are not completely understood. Apparently, the designers of Kalyani Group thus propose to change the reservation, as well as reduce the area of ​​the frontal projection of the infantry fighting vehicle and thus to a certain extent increase its survivability in combat conditions. In addition to changes in housing design, dynamic or active protection systems are offered to increase survivability, which can be installed on upgraded equipment upon the customer’s request.

The aft part of the hull has also undergone significant changes. Instead of a flat bottom one should have an inclined bottom sheet. In addition, the dimensions of the two stern hatches are reduced. It should be noted that the shown layout of the upgraded BMP-2 had characteristic glass windows in the sides. Apparently, they were made to demonstrate the internal volumes of the machine and are not intended to be installed on serial equipment. Otherwise, the level of protection of the updated armored vehicle will be so low that it will immediately put an end to the further fate of the project.

The power plant, transmission and chassis of the updated BMP-2 in the new Indian project do not undergo any changes. Apparently, in the course of repair and modernization, outdated equipment may receive a new engine, but so far there is no exact information on this subject. The chassis still has six track rollers with a torsion bar on each side and a drive wheel in front of the hull. From above, the tracked propulsion unit is closed by large fencer shelves. In addition, the front part of the tracks and the drive wheel are covered with the lower frontal body part extending to the sides. On the existing photo layout, it is clear that the modernization project does not provide for the preservation of hydrodynamic grids in the stern of the machine. Thus, on the water, the upgraded BMP-2 will be slower than the basic version of the same machine.

It is proposed to install an Israeli-made Samson Mk II combat module on the site of the BMP-2 turret. A relatively small turret of this module is equipped with an automatic 30 caliber mm gun with a machine gun paired with it, as well as a set of sighting equipment. According to the official information of the Israeli company Rafael, the Samson Mk II combat module can be equipped with guns of various models, including Soviet / Russian 2А42, used on the BMP-2. On one guidance system with a gun, any suitable 7,62 caliber machine gun can be mounted. The system of installation of barreled weapons allows you to direct it in a vertical plane in the range of angles from -20 ° to + 70 °.

The internal volume of the combat module allows you to transport ammunition consisting of 200 shells for cannon and 230 cartridges for machine guns. Declared the possibility of equipment stores guns and machine guns from the combat compartment of the base machine. For this, the crew of the combat vehicle must open the hatch in the roof of the fighting compartment and place projectiles or cartridges in the appropriate volumes. At the request of the customer, the Israeli combat module can be equipped with a launcher for anti-tank missiles. Thus, the mock-up of the upgraded BMP-2 shown at the exhibition was equipped with a launcher for two Spike LR missiles. In the stowed position, the missiles are located inside the armored turret and are advanced only before launch.

The Samson Mk II combat module is equipped with two blocks of sighting equipment. One of them is used by the gunner and mounted in a small niche of the tower, to the right of the gun and machine gun. The second unit is located on the roof of the tower and should be used by the commander of the combat vehicle. The commander and the gunner can monitor the situation using the optical and thermal imaging channel. In addition, the sighting units are equipped with laser range finders. Commander sighting equipment unit can rotate in two planes, so that it can be used as a panoramic sight.

During repairs with a significant change in the various elements of the design, the infantry combat vehicle BMP-2, upgraded by the project of the Indian industrial group Kalyani Group, should improve its combat capabilities through the use of various pieces of equipment and new technical solutions. However, in its current form, the modernization project may look doubtful, since the number of applied innovations is controversial.

The advantages of the proposed modernization include a modern combat module that can enhance the capabilities of the combat vehicle. As follows from the characteristics of the Samson Mk II module, this unit reduces the risks for the crew, since the commander, gunner, driver and landing force are inside the body of the armored vehicle and are isolated from ammunition. Thus, even the destruction of the combat module may not have fatal consequences for the crew and the machine. In addition, the combat module of the Israeli development can be equipped with various weapons and equipment, which in the future will somewhat facilitate the modernization of armored vehicles.

Improvements in the armored corps of an infantry fighting vehicle are ambiguous. If the project provides for increased protection through the use of additional booking modules, dynamic or active protection systems, then this should be attributed to the upgrades. However, there is no exact information on this score, and one of the first to change the shape of the body is striking. It is easy to see that the change in the shape of the stern of the armored hull affected not only the appearance of the vehicle, but also the convenience of landing and disembarking the troops. Because of the bottom of the stern, located at an angle, soldiers will have to climb into the armored vehicle and leave it through two relatively small hatches located at a noticeable height above the ground. It is unlikely that such hatches can be called comfortable. A hatch or hatches on the roof will not add convenience to the landing either, since the soldiers will not be protected by the body of an armored vehicle when disembarking through them.

At the Defexpo-2014 exhibition, the Kalyani Group conglomerate presented only a mock-up of the upgraded BMP-2. Apparently, the project has not yet reached the stage of construction and testing of a prototype. In this case, there is reason to believe that in the near future, Indian designers will correct the existing shortcomings of the project. At the same time, however, the opposite scenario cannot be ruled out: the appearance of the modernized BMP-2 can already be determined, and now the specialists of the Indian defense industry are completing design work.

The proposed project may be of interest to the Ministry of Defense of India, since the Indian armed forces have over one and a half thousand infantry fighting vehicles BMP-2. At present, a program is being modernized with the installation of new equipment and weapons. In this regard, various projects for the deep modernization of such infantry fighting vehicles regularly appear. Thus, over the next few years, the modernization project of the BMP-2014 presented at the exhibition Defexpo-2 will either begin to be used to upgrade the existing equipment, or add to the already considerable list of similar proposals that failed to find a customer.


On the materials of the sites:
http://defense-update.com/
http://thumkar.blogspot.ru/
http://rafael.co.il/
http://vestnik-rm.ru/
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  1. +5
    12 February 2014 08: 27
    It seems that the Indians have revisited the film "Terminator" =)
    1. 0
      12 February 2014 11: 11
      Well, well, with the Indians, everything is so with technology ... failure by failure .... electronics can be much better
      1. avg
        +1
        12 February 2014 11: 51
        The designer made his dream come true after a couple of jams in a friendly company.
      2. GastaClaus69
        +7
        12 February 2014 12: 57
        Well, the Indians are not the first to be so perverted. Yes
        beat and more perverted ..


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    2. AVV
      0
      12 February 2014 23: 59
      Quote: Cormorants
      It seems that the Indians have revisited the film "Terminator" =)

      Hindus didn’t look like themselves! The manufacturer must carry out the contract for modernization, otherwise there are no guarantees !!! And nothing more !!! Or should upgrade yourself !!!
  2. Dimsan
    -4
    12 February 2014 08: 36
    Well, what do not do, how do not modernize, but it still was and will remain a "mass grave of the infantry" and, moreover, invented by a woman!
    1. Akim
      +10
      12 February 2014 10: 04
      Quote: Dimsan
      Well, what do not do, how do not modernize, but it still was and will remain a "mass grave of the infantry"

      Well, come up with something better (you personally).
      1. +6
        12 February 2014 10: 46
        Modernization beyond recognition. Judging by the windows in the photographs, the BMP is not the Infantry Fighting Vehicle, but the Armored ROUTE .... (P- against Pakistan, apparently) lol Pass on the fare!
      2. +1
        12 February 2014 10: 48
        Well, come up with something better (you personally).
        I agree.
  3. +1
    12 February 2014 09: 06
    Yeah, it turned out originally, but here the glass side windows do not create confidence in me
    1. +2
      12 February 2014 09: 19
      Quote: ramin_serg
      l but here are the glass side windows

      bulletproof glass on BMP is nonsense ((( fool
      modernization is complete guano, but Indians cannot create armored vehicles (((
      deserves attention Israeli combat module "Samson Mk 2", from the company Rafael (((
      1. 0
        14 February 2014 20: 49
        Quote: cosmos111
        Israeli combat module deserves attention


        Yes, and deserves even more attention, a monstrous unclosed gap between the module and the housing ...
    2. Akim
      +2
      12 February 2014 10: 07
      Quote: ramin_serg
      side windows something I do not create trust

      Bronosteklopakety, now withstand the impact of the projectile 20 / 23-mm.
      1. +1
        12 February 2014 11: 16
        I am sure that they will not withstand the impact of the BMP-2 shell from the 2A42 gun
        1. Akim
          0
          12 February 2014 11: 56
          Quote: ramin_serg
          they will not withstand the impact of the BMP-2 shell from the 2A42 gun

          LD and 25 mm Bushmaster or Erllikon. India has 800 T-54/55 tanks. Several companies offered to convert them into heavy infantry fighting vehicles.
          1. 0
            12 February 2014 12: 43
            Quote: Akim
            Several companies offered to convert them into heavy BM

            the Israelis and remake, under the T-BTR ((((
            but don't forget >>>> T-72 is decommissioned, replacing with T-90 (((
            just why India T-BTR ???
            MBT and wheeled infantry fighting vehicles 8x8 with high mileage and overhaul life >>> to drive through the deserts ((((
            that's what the army of India needs (((
            TATA MOTORSKestrel ((((

            1. Akim
              0
              12 February 2014 12: 56
              Quote: cosmos111
              just why India T-BTR ???

              Look at the geographic map and the neighbors. The first clashes, God forbid, will unfold in the mountains, where mobile firing points will be needed.
              1. 0
                12 February 2014 16: 33
                Quote: Akim
                where mobile firing points will be needed.

                but a T-armored personnel carrier, armed with a 12,7 mm machine gun >> 40 mm AGS >>> what is this firing point ????
                firing point, if it’s on tank Arjun MK2 .., stuck 155 mm howitzer>>>> this will be a great firing point good (((((
                1. Akim
                  0
                  12 February 2014 16: 49
                  Quote: cosmos111
                  but T-armored personnel carrier, armed with a 12,7 mm machine gun >> 40 mm AGS >>

                  Who said? The nomenclature of a given weapon has not yet been established. These are mountains. Passes must be closed by the density of fire and not by the power of ammunition. In addition, there are ATGMs. But Arjuns are just deployed in sandy areas. In the mountains only towed howitzers.
                  An-32 at a high-altitude airfield unloaded a 105-mm howitzer.
                  1. 0
                    12 February 2014 17: 56
                    Quote: Akim
                    These are mountains. Passes must be closed by the density of fire and not by the power of ammunition

                    you yourself said:
                    Quote: Akim
                    . In the mountains only towed howitzers.

                    light armored vehicles, airborne ((((
                    but not a heavy T-BTR, based on a tank ???
                    on a wheeled platform, TATA MOTORS Kestrel 8x8, the Indians will try to set the maximum weapons ((((
                    it is possible that the "Bakhchu" BMP-3 ((((
                    well, in the mountains, the most effective weapon will be, 1-but, 2's barrel mortar AMOS(((
                    1. Akim
                      0
                      12 February 2014 18: 15
                      Quote: cosmos111
                      but not a heavy T-BTR, based on a tank ???

                      They wanted to. They will receive offers. BMP (t) will not be so heavy. After all, they use the T-72M there, but he does not like them for the mountains (declination-elevation angle_, motor pull, etc.
                      1. +1
                        12 February 2014 18: 29
                        Quote: Akim
                        They wanted to. They will receive offers. BMP (t) will not be so heavy.

                        respected hi the transfer and operation of mountains, heavy T-BTR is their area of ​​fantasy ((((
                        towed artillery-YES !!!!!
                        and light armored vehicles (aircraft), maximum armament ((((
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                2. 0
                  12 February 2014 23: 54
                  specification of information... about self-propelled guns, on the chassis of the tank Arjun MK1 (((
                  Defense Research Organization of India (DRDO) has begun testing the new 130 mm self-propelled guns ((((
                  the self-propelled guns now have an open warhead (self-propelled guns "Geocind"), not an armored fighting compartment (((

                  gun, self-propelled guns -Soviet 130 mm M-46 ((( good
      2. 0
        12 February 2014 11: 29
        Bronosteklopakety, now withstand the impact of the projectile 20 / 23-mm.

        Thus, Indians will soon put their lobovuhu on armor and full power accessories ....
        1. Akim
          0
          12 February 2014 11: 52
          Quote: Scandinavian
          Thus, Indians will soon put their lobovuhu on armor

          Safe glazing. also has its limits.
      3. +1
        12 February 2014 12: 01
        Quote: Akim
        Bronosteklopakety, now withstand the impact of the projectile 20 / 23-mm.

        glass will withstand >>>>> armored hull, will be punched right through (((( request
        1. Akim
          +2
          12 February 2014 12: 21
          Quote: cosmos111
          armored corps will be broken through
      4. 0
        12 February 2014 12: 50
        Bronosteklopakety, now withstand the impact of the projectile 20 / 23-mm.
        and the BMP can withstand such a shell?
        1. Akim
          0
          12 February 2014 12: 57
          Quote: spech
          and the BMP can withstand such a shell?

          We don’t know what double-glazed window there is. Maybe it corresponds to the bullet resistance of that armor.
  4. avt
    +2
    12 February 2014 10: 12
    The windows must be left! And to finalize - to make the window, it is still hot in India. But the Jews did well - like cockroaches crawling into all cracks, cut the dough.
    1. MACCABI TLV
      +3
      12 February 2014 10: 32
      we don’t have oil, we have to work with our heads and hands.
      1. avg
        +1
        12 February 2014 11: 46
        Quote: MACCABI TLV
        we don’t have oil, we have to work with our heads and hands.

        And how are you doing with the gas, or have you already sold it to someone?
        1. MACCABI TLV
          0
          12 February 2014 22: 27
          In its infancy, it will take another couple of years to unravel the process. Sold to the Palestinians in Rammah, and, it seems, to Jordan.
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    2. Akim
      +1
      12 February 2014 10: 41
      Quote: avt
      But the Jews did well - like cockroaches crawling into all cracks, cut the dough.

      There, just a big concentration of brains on a small territory.
      1. +3
        12 February 2014 11: 10
        Quote: Akim
        There, just a big concentration of brains on a small territory.
        Yeah, Albert Einstein, Zhores Alferov, Spielberg, Lasker, Botvinnik, Semen Moiseevich Lavochkin, Mikhail Iosifovich Gurevich, Mikhail Leontyevich Mil ...
        Well, how can you not become anti-Semite am ...
        1. Akim
          +3
          12 February 2014 11: 57
          Quote: Alibekulu
          Well, how can you not become anti-Semite

          Enviously? laughing
    3. 0
      12 February 2014 10: 52
      The windows must be left! And finalize - make a window laughing
      Wow! Flooring - laminate flooring! Dviglo - throw it away! Let the infantry ride him across the field! There will be a sort of command post ... (Yes - I forgot, instead of the motor the toilet. Ato maloli on the battlefield ...) laughing
  5. +6
    12 February 2014 10: 37
    Somehow I missed, but where is the driver mechanic?

    1. Akim
      +4
      12 February 2014 10: 54
      Quote: professor
      and where is the driver mechanic?

      Runs back with a joystick wassat In general, when I saw her for the first time, I thought: a robot tank. Israel is a master at such things.
    2. avt
      +2
      12 February 2014 10: 54
      Quote: professor
      Somehow I missed, but where is the driver mechanic?

      In Haifa. Well, this is a model - a lure for such commanders who have never fought anywhere, like our former chief of the General Staff Makarov. This is an infantry fighting vehicle without a driver. You seriously decided to discuss these Pictures at an Exhibition? laughing
      1. +2
        12 February 2014 11: 49
        Quote: avt
        This is a mock-up - a temptation for such commanders who have never fought anywhere, like our former chief of general staff Makarov.

        If you are talking about Israel, then combat experience cannot be taken away.

        Quote: cosmos111
        Professor
        "I also had an interesting incident while fishing ..
        20 a day? Another 2 glasses and it will be 200 per hour. "

        Will you drag me on quotes from branch to branch? good

        Quote: cosmos111
        and the Jews forgot to make hatches for the driver (((((

        The "Jews" made a working tower, the rest Soviet-Indian.
        1. avt
          +3
          12 February 2014 11: 55
          Quote: professor
          If you are talking about Israel, then combat experience cannot be taken away.

          Next time I'll put a minus. Before you boil with "righteous anger," read carefully, you can re-read my quote in your post indicating a CONCRETE addressee who has not fought.
          1. +1
            12 February 2014 12: 10
            Quote: avt
            Next time I'll put a minus.

            Just not that, I won’t survive laughing
        2. 0
          12 February 2014 12: 19
          Quote: professor
          If you are talking about Israel, then combat experience cannot be taken away.

          in the war against native armies, Arabs (((
          who threw in the Sinai, whole T-55 and fled, already heels sparkled ((((
          that Israel was able to create on their basis the BMP-T "Akhzarit" "and arm ALL !!!! its army >>>> strong, and most importantly brave, warriors, the Arabs were crying (((
          Quote: professor
          Will drag me on quotes from branch to branch

          no, I will not >>> VODKA IS THE INTERMEDIATOR, CONCERNING A PERSON WITH REALITY >>> Georgy Millyar drinks (((((
          Quote: professor
          the rest is Soviet-Indian.

          rather Indian >>>> Press - press - press aca - aca - aca >>>> press - press - press aca - aca - aca wassat (((((
        3. +3
          12 February 2014 13: 38
          Quote: professor
          The "Jews" made a working tower, the rest Soviet-Indian.

          From the Soviet only hodovka remained. The rest is a purely Jewish approach: In addition to the Indian defense enterprises, the Israeli company Rafael participated in the development of a new BMP-2 modernization project.
          A minimum of investments and a large cash draw.
          1. +2
            12 February 2014 15: 10
            Quote: Vasya
            The rest is a purely Jewish approach: In addition to the Indian defense enterprises, the Israeli company Rafael participated in the development of a new BMP-2 modernization project.
            A minimum of investments and a large cash draw.

            The rest is a turret or if you want a tower. Materiel pancake. fool
    3. +1
      12 February 2014 11: 06
      Professor
      "I also had an interesting incident while fishing ..
      20 a day? Another 2 glasses and it will be 200 per hour. "

      and the Jews forgot to make hatches for the driver ((((( laughing >>> you don't need to drink a lot of Indian vodka, it's hot there, that's lucky ((( tongue
      Akim "Israel is a master at such things."

      mechvod and commander of BMP, in place ((((upgraded BMP-1 ((((
      but why would they, bulletproof glass, on board ??? not at all clear ????? request
      in the end, guan modernization >>>> but the module "Samson Mk 2", Rafae is GOOD good ((((
  6. +1
    12 February 2014 12: 00
    with the module, the idea is not bad, although the shape of the tower is unsuccessful, in my opinion: at the base there is a trap for shells. But nah..figa on the sides of the "windows" - a question)
  7. Evgan
    +2
    12 February 2014 12: 41
    And the ammunition load of 200 30-mm shells and 230 rounds of machine gun cartridges is quite small
  8. +3
    12 February 2014 13: 52
    Quote: hort
    But nah..figa on the sides of the "windows" - a question)


    Probably to hang fringe with curtains and poke coins around the perimeter of the seal. From the evil eye, so to speak, and for comfort. )))
    1. +1
      12 February 2014 14: 22
      BMP with minibus function laughing
  9. Hug
    +1
    12 February 2014 17: 32
    Not quite a topic, but also interesting

    For the first time in history, Ukraine sent 50 T-64 tanks abroad

    State Enterprise "Ukroboronservis" signed a contract with a foreign customer for overhaul and delivery of 50 main battle tanks T-64BV-1. The press service of the concern reports. The work will be carried out at the State Enterprise "Kharkov Armored Plant".

    "The signing of this contract is a serious step for the concern to bring this type of tank to the world arms markets. The T-64 is considered a strategic breakthrough tank and has not yet been supplied abroad. In terms of a number of tactical and technical characteristics, such as firepower, security, maneuverability, this tank outperforms the T-72, and with elements of modernization in the T-64BM "Bulat" version - the T-90, respectively. In addition, according to the criterion of "price-quality", the upgraded T-64s are ahead of foreign counterparts, " automotive, engineering and special equipment of the State Corporation "Ukroboronprom" Vadim Fedosov.

    He emphasized that the contract was concluded as part of the decision of the concern’s management regarding the expansion of the supply of armored vehicles for the needs of foreign customers.

    "Given the presence of a large number of T-64 units in Ukraine, their implementation in foreign markets seems to be, of course, more profitable for the country than utilization. The implementation of this contract allows loading Ukrainian enterprises, increasing the profitability of the concern and contributions to the budget, as well as creating new jobs. For example, the delivery of each T-64 tank will create at least one job at the contractor, "Fedosov said.

    He noted that after the signing of a contract for the repair and supply of 50 T-64BV-1 tanks, the production volumes of the State Enterprise "Kharkov Armored Plant" will be increased to almost 100 million UAH. This will create new opportunities for the company in 2014. First of all, the number of jobs will increase: the number of employees at the company will increase by 20% compared to 2013.

    Source: NEWSru.ua :: Ukraine Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:12

    http://rus.newsru.ua/arch/ukraine/12feb2014/vpervietank.html
    1. Hug
      +1
      12 February 2014 17: 41
      State Enterprise "Ukroboronservice" signed a contract with a foreign customer


      I wonder who could be this foreign customer?

      Maybe you, Akim, are in the know?
      1. Akim
        0
        12 February 2014 17: 51
        Quote: Kram
        Maybe you, Akim, are in the know?


        No idea.
  10. +2
    12 February 2014 22: 23
    Our poor BMPs, who just didn’t modernize them:
    Poles:


    BWP-40-version of the modernization of Polish BMP-1 by installing 40 mm Bofors in a double tower

    Iraqis:
    BMP-1 "Saddam"

    Belarusian modernization of Azerbaijani BMP-1 to the level of Cobra-S combat vehicle

    1. +2
      12 February 2014 22: 35
      Previous Indian Modernization BMP-2-BMP-2 TUSK

      Modernization of the BMP-1 by Syrian Basmachi

      Afghan creative




      1. +2
        12 February 2014 22: 42
        Czech version of the BMP-1 with openly mounted 30-mm anti-aircraft guns M-53 from the Czechoslovak ZSU M-53/59 "Prague"

        Finnish BMP-1 version with LAV-25 turret

        BMP-based Indian self-propelled gun with an installed 105-mm English L-118 artillery gun manufactured in India under license

        Greek modernization received from Germany BMP-1 former NNA GDR

        South African modernization of the "high-tech" BMP-1 (presumably for Algeria)

        Abkhazian modernization of the BMP-1 with home-made PU for the C-5
        1. +2
          12 February 2014 23: 01
          Another Abkhazian modernization of the BMP-1

          Armenian and Karabakh modernization BMP-1



          Egyptian Modernization BMP-1

          NFV-1. Sino-American development, BMP and gun Bushmaster 25 mm.
          1. +1
            12 February 2014 23: 10
            Czech modernization options BMP-2


            Slovak version of the modernization of the BMP-1

            MLI-84-Romanian version of the BMP-1 with a large-caliber DShK mounted above the top hatch of the landing squad

            its modern modernization with the 25-mm "Bushmaster" and the Israeli anti-tank missile system "Spike"

            modernization of the BMP-1 from the Libyan basmachi (however, it does not differ in creativity)
            1. Akim
              0
              13 February 2014 05: 53
              Quote: Novel 1977
              MLI-84-Romanian version of the BMP-1 with a large-caliber DShK mounted above the top hatch of the landing squad

              Romanian BMP, only similar to ours) taken as a basis). In fact, it is larger.
              So, in principle, all Romanian armored vehicles have a Soviet basis, but national features.
              MLI 84M
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    3. Akim
      +1
      12 February 2014 22: 47
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Our poor BMPs, who just didn’t modernize them:

      Why are the poor? If they upgrade, but do not throw them away, they still have a supply of life.
    4. 0
      12 February 2014 23: 02
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Our poor BMPs, who just didn’t modernize them:

      modernized, modernized, but not extinction soldier terned out ((((
      Novel, not all .... heh, hey ysho HP South Africa (((
      modernization of BMP-1 by ATA

      BMP modernized in Ukraine

      2- Czech modernization "BMP-M2"
      CZ "," MGC-1 "

      Polish "Puma"

      1,2 infantry fighting vehicles were delivered to 47 !!!! countries and then approximately ((((((here, each country and vyzhivaetsya laughing UPGRADES (((((
      1. +1
        12 February 2014 23: 23
        Volod ahead of the Polish modernization. By the way, who asked about today's sale of 50 T-64BV Ukraine? Presumably buyer-Congo ...
        our upgrade option BMP-2

        another option-Afghan with the installation 2B9 "Cornflower"

        A little more Abkhazian creativity

        Iranian version of BMP-1-Boraq, with DShK and rollers from M-113

        another Czech version of the OT-90: BMP-1 with a tower from the Czech-Polish armored personnel carrier OT-64

        Indian modernization BMP-2-BMP Abhay (Skt: अभय) is a slightly larger BMP-2 equipped with the new Greaves Cotton TD2V8 engine in 550l.s. and a completely new turret in which the 40-mm Bofors gun is installed (BC 210 shots). Additional weapons are also wow - 30-mm automatic grenade launcher, PU ATGM Competition or Milan (BK - two missiles) and a PKT machine gun.
        1. +2
          12 February 2014 23: 43
          Quote: Novel 1977
          l ahead of the Polish modernization.

          Novel
          if we list, apart from the factory ones, all homemade products >>>> we will spend the whole evening, there are hundreds and hundreds of options Yes (((((
          excellent BMP 1,2, was, for its time !!!!
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  11. +3
    12 February 2014 23: 02
    Zampoteha is not on them what
  12. +1
    13 February 2014 20: 19
    They clowned with some kind of armored double-glazed windows.
    The hodovka’s layout to conditionally indicate the general view (I think everyone saw the original and the layout should not be taken seriously, this is probably the idea of ​​the Indians, they are the organizers), and the windows for the review of the fighting compartment are inside, that is, the reserved part of the Ramsael Samson Mk II tower.
  13. 0
    16 February 2014 19: 26
    even with windows, even without them, pornography is still
  14. +1
    17 February 2014 16: 55
    - Oh! no questions.