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Ukraine arms: numbers and trends

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UKRAINE WEAPONS: FIGURES AND TRENDS.


According to the results of 2013, the sum of signed real contracts for the export of military goods and services carried out by Ukrainian enterprises and special exporters belonging to the Ukroboronprom State Concern will, according to preliminary estimates, be from $ 1,5 to 1,7 billion. This is the highest indicator of concluded deals for the entire period of activity of Ukraine as an independent state. At the same time, the enterprises of the concern, according to published data, according to the results of last year, ensured the growth of production volumes by 22% and the growth of arms exports by 25%. What was filled and secured this increase? Let us highlight the largest projects and areas that formed the gun picture-2013 and the main outlines of the current year.

Armored vehicles



The armored palette is traditional for Ukrainian arms exports. The technologically most complex and interesting project is the establishment of mass production tank BM "Oplot" and the implementation of the export contract for the supply of 49 units of this main battle tank to Thailand. February 4, 2014 the first batch of five “Holds” produced by the State Enterprise “Plant named after V.A. Malyshev” arrived in Thailand as part of the implementation of the contract concluded in September 2011. between the Ukrspetsexport Group of Companies and the Royal Thai Army. In the tender, the Ukrainian tank managed to bypass the South Korean K1A1 tank and the Russian T-90. The total cost of the contract is more than $ 240 million. This tank order for new tanks is the largest since Ukraine concluded and fulfilled the agreement on the delivery to Pakistan of 320 T-80UD tanks worth $ 640 million. The first batch of new “Oplot” was manufactured in conditions of stringent optimization of production at the Plant them. Malyshev, associated with the need to achieve maximum efficiency and cost rationality in the formation of a new industrial and technological cycle. What effort it was worth - a topic for another discussion. But there is a positive result that not everyone believed even at home, not like competitors.

Following the new “Stronghold”, the modernized T-64 tank has already entered the world export market. Signed a contract with one of the African countries. A firm order, which was carried out by the Kharkov Armored Plant, was launched for several dozen vehicles, and there is a further option. During Soviet times, this car was not sold abroad. Powerful T-64 Union coast for war with Europe. And all the cheap market niches filled the "seventy-twofolds" - which became especially noticeable after the collapse of the Union. Discussions in Ukraine itself, that it’s time to start exporting T-64, have now been stopped by talk that, they say, T-64 will narrow the maneuver for the promotion of Ukrainian tanks - the same “Oplot”. But now it has been decided that an upgraded T-64 with a new dynamic protection, a new engine, a new fire control system may be the best option for those customers for whom Oplot seems like an overly expensive pleasure. Now there are two export niches - “Oplot”, created taking into account the promising requirements of tank fashion, and T-64, the appearance of which, according to the customer’s wishes, can vary widely - from the most sophisticated to the version “tomorrow to battle”. T-64 has all chances to become a hit of Ukrainian armored sales, since it is unlikely that it will have worthy competitors by the criterion of "cost-effectiveness".

Well, to the T-72, the modernization of these machines and Ukrainian special exporters are not discounted. A striking confirmation of this is the installation of Ukrainian engines on T-72 tanks for Ethiopia, where, under a contract worth more than $ 100, 200 retrofitted tanks were delivered earlier under the T-72U1 option (with 5TDFMA-1 diesel engines).

Tank engine-transmission units based on Ukrainian diesel engines are a very stable source of income in themselves. After fulfilling the contract for the supply of 50 MTO for MBT-2000 tanks to the PRC in the amount of $ 20 million, the Chinese partners have an interest in further purchases. In turn, the Ukrainian 6TD-2 engine manufactured by the Kharkiv Engineering Design Bureau named after A. Morozov, which is part of Ukroboroprom Group of Companies, is installed on the main Al-Khalid battle tanks of Pakistan, where more than 300 tank engines were previously supplied. It is through Pakistan that the probability is high that the Ukrainian tank engines will reach Saudi Arabia as well. In January 2014 g. Jane's edition reported that, as part of a large-scale agreement on military-technical cooperation between Islamabad and Riyadh, negotiations have begun on the supply of new main battle tanks Al-Khalid to Saudi Arabia.

Among the new light armored vehicles “made in Ukraine” the most branded products are armored personnel carriers BTR-4 and BTR-3Е1. Indonesia will be the second export customer after Iraq for the purchase of the BTR-4. The first contract for the delivery of a consignment of five Ukrainian BTR-4 will be signed in the near future, during the first quarter of this year, according to Ukroboronprom state concern. It will be executed by Ukrainian factories under the auspices of the state self-financing foreign trade enterprise “Spetstechnoexport”, which are part of the Ukroboronprom group of companies. Indonesian Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro stated that it was planned to buy 55 Ukrainian BTR-4. The “fours” should replace the Soviet BTR-50P, which are now in the arsenal of Indonesian marines more than 70 pieces.
Ukraine arms: numbers and trends

Ukraine also fulfills a contract signed with 2009 with Iraq for the supply of 420 armored personnel carriers BTR-4 and vehicles based on it. This contract has become a serious challenge for the Ukrainian defense industry. As in 2009, the technological chain itself for serial production of the BTR-4 in Ukraine simply did not exist. The delivery in three years of a large number of new armored personnel carriers required a significant consolidation of the defense industry. That did not happen. As for 2012, as previously planned, the contract was not executed - due to a number of organizational, financial and technical reasons. Its implementation is still ongoing.

In turn, the signing of a full-scope contract with Indonesia gives the Ukrainian side every opportunity to “hone” the production technology of the armored vehicle and demonstrate to both the customer and the market the competitive advantages of the new design. It is not yet known in which configuration and in which “appearance” Indonesia will buy the BTR-4 Indonesia. With average price indices for 55 machines, Ukraine can receive income ranging from $ 60 to $ 80 million. The Indonesian side plans to replace the BTR-50P with the BTR-4 in the period 2015-2019. But, perhaps, the delivery time of the Ukrainian armored personnel carriers will be more brief.

In terms of the number of sold new armored personnel carriers, the BTR-3E1 can be considered the leader so far. According to orders for the BTR-3Е1 in Thailand alone, Ukrainian special exporters have already shipped more than 120 vehicles at an average cost of $ 1.3 million per unit. Some of these machines have been in operation for more than two years and have a mileage of more than 2 thousand km. “Despite the difficult climatic conditions, the Ukrainian-made equipment turned out to be reliable in operation,” say the manufacturers. All existing programs for the supply of BTR-3-1 in Thailand are calculated to 2015 g.

Precision weapons

Two major contracts - Indian and Kazakh - provided a substantial share of profitability for SE "Ukroboronprom" in 2013.

Kazakhstan is a long-time customer of the services of Ukraine in the repair and extension of the resource of anti-aircraft missile systems and air defense systems. Since then, as in 2007, the company Ukroboronservis, which today is part of the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies, has repaired C-300PS for Kazakhstan. In 2012, the repair of the command center of the system - KPS 5Н83С for Kazakhstan was completed, and in July 2012 a new contract was signed between SE Ukroboronservis and the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan for the repair of another division C-300PS. In 2013, this C-300PS division was delivered to the territory of the Republic of Kazakhstan and test fires were conducted using the 5H83С CPS. All fired missiles hit targets. After that, the Minister of Defense of Kazakhstan said that Astana is interested in expanding cooperation with Ukraine in the military sphere and will actively develop it.

There are all prerequisites for this - especially against the background of the Russian promises already sounded in early February. "Five C-300PS divisions will be delivered to Kazakhstan from the presence of the Russian Defense Ministry. Earlier, these divisions were on alert in the Russian army, and now the specialists of the two countries will have to look at how to bring them to combat readiness," said Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov on the results of negotiations between the heads of the military departments of Russia and Kazakhstan.
To bring them to a combat-ready state, and then deliver them to Kazakhstan, we need repair and production facilities and specialists. And they are in the Russian Federation, as paradoxical as it may sound, now they just don’t. Since they are all engaged in the production of a new generation C-400 air defense missile systems (moreover, obviously not keeping up with the previously announced plans) and creating a C-500 advertised air defense system with TMD capabilities. So, to restore and revive C-300 air defense systems, promised to Russia by Russia, except for Ukraine.

“The practice of recent years has shown that not one of the CIS countries today is capable of ensuring that the depth of repair, at the level of repair of a cell, unit or subblock, which is being carried out by Ukroboronservice.” And the most important thing in this matter is that the product after our repair extends the resource for seven years or five thousand hours. Which is confirmed by ground tests. Moreover, Ukraine has already implemented the production of a new element base for the C-300PT / PS complexes, in exchange for the one that is no longer produced in Russia, ”say Ukroboronservis.



Along with the repair of ground-to-air systems, after a rather long pause, Ukraine, or rather the Artem State Holding Company, in 2013. demonstrated its capabilities as a serial manufacturer aviation air-to-air missiles. Ukraine is quite active in exporting air-to-air guided missiles of the R-27 type in various modifications. The export volumes of air missiles depend on where and in what quantities Soviet or Russian fighters such as MiG-29 or Su-27 and their modifications were previously sold. In May 2012. an agreement was signed with India on the supply of medium-range R-27 aircraft guided missiles, which was subsequently carried out under the auspices of the Ukroboronprom State Corporation, which included the Artem State Holding Company. The contract in the amount of $ 246 million made it possible to fully utilize the labor and production facilities of the company in the period 2012-2013. and so on. The terms of the contract also provided for the supply of equipment for technological maintenance of the supplied products - the Gurt complexes (Luch State Design Bureau) and missile launchers (Krasilovsky Aggregate Plant).



A special place in the export of Ukrainian precision weapons 2013 was occupied by the products of the State Kyiv Design Bureau "Luch". These are anti-tank guided missiles and complexes for ground forces, heavy and light armored vehicles, helicopters, and offshore platforms. These are guided munitions of 152, 130, 125, 120, 105, 100 and 90 mm calibers, as well as the ATGM family for ground forces, wearable and portable. “Luchevsky” contracts are characterized by two important features - a stable expansion of the samples of the products offered and an increase in the partners and customers interested in jointly developing and purchasing them.

In 2013. it became known that Luch State Design Bureau and the Belgian company CMI (Cockerill Maintenance & Ingénierie) Defense have implemented a very interesting joint project. Its essence is that a new ammunition has appeared in the ammunition of the 90-mm gun of the Cockerill turret - a Ukrainian round with the Falarick 90 anti-tank guided missile. The missile can be fired through the bore of a 90-mm gun and hit armored targets at a distance of up to 4 km, which is more than twice as far as compared to other rounds of the standard ammunition rack. The project was implemented in the interests of one of the rich countries of the Persian Gulf. Towers produced by the Belgian company CMI Defense with Ukrainian missile and cannon armament (90, 105 and 120 mm) are compatible with all types of lightly armored vehicles and are offered to armored vehicle manufacturers interested in increasing the firepower of their vehicles. This "new thing" has already been tested on the South Korean K21 BMP of Doosan and on the Polish armored personnel carrier "Rosomak" (Rosomak) in the version of the fire support vehicle called "Wolf", which can be equipped with a cannon of both 105 mm and 120 mm in the CT-CV turret CMI Defense products. Also in Poland, a new guided 120-mm mine with laser semi-active homing was recently tested, created as a joint project of the State Design Bureau "Luch" and Polish enterprises.

Aviation

The contracts for the modernization and repair of combat and transport airplanes and Soviet-made helicopters made and executed at the enterprises of the Ukroboronprom group of companies are the most noticeable order for the modernization of the An-32 for India. A five-year contract worth $ 397,7 million for the repair and upgrading of X-NUMX An-105 machines for the Indian Air Force was signed in July by 32 g. between the Ministry of Defense of India and Spetstechnoexport. The agreement had a “chain” effect, as its $ 2009 million was added to its financial part to manufacture 110 aircraft engines at Motor Sich JSC. To date, Ukraine has undergone modernization and transferred 100 aircraft from 30 to the customer, which, according to the contract, must be modernized in Ukraine. In February, 40. the transfer to the customer of the seventh batch of An-2014 vehicles of five vehicles should take place. The transfer of the eighth and final “five” is scheduled for May. The rest of the aircraft will be upgraded at the aircraft plant of the Indian Air Force BRD-32 in Kanpur, in northern India. The direct executors of the contract are the state enterprise Antonov and the state enterprise 1 Plant for Civil Aviation, which is a part of the Ukroboronprom group of companies.

According to the “Indian model” - with the installation of new avionics and digital on-board equipment, maintenance and revision of the AI-20D engines - it is also proposed to modernize the An-32B aircraft for the Peruvian air force. This Ukrainian proposal is already framed. Currently, Peru is armed with eight An-32.

Marine technology



In the first quarter of 2014, the transfer of the Chinese Navy of the second of the four high-speed amphibious assault ships was scheduled. Earlier, “ukroboronpromovskaya” shipbuilding company “More” (Theodosia), a serial manufacturer of vessels with dynamic principles of maintenance, sent the first MDKVP to the customer. The Ukrainian project of a small landing ship received the 958 index and the name "Bison". It is a further development of the 1232.2 Zubr project, which was developed in the Soviet Almaz Central Design Bureau at the end of 80, and is the world's largest amphibious assault ship. Under the terms of the contract with the Ukrainian "defense industry", the amount of which exceeds $ 315 million, five years have been allotted for the execution of works. Two ships have already been built in Ukraine, and two more will be built - in China, according to Ukrainian technologies and with the participation of Ukrainian specialists.

FGC "More" is building "Bison / Buffaloes" on the basis of a bilateral agreement with Russia on the use of the intellectual property of the former Soviet Union. This arrangement allows the Ukrainian side to dispose of the technical documentation on the ships of this project.

In the new project, developed in the design bureau of the Feodosia plant “More”, the ship, in particular, is equipped with fundamentally new control equipment and necessary navigation and radar equipment of domestic production. New technical and software to control the technical means and movement of the unique ship was developed by the specialists of OJSC “Plant“ Fiolent ”(Simferopol). For the 958 “Bison” project, a complex for controlling the KSU Flora-958 ship was designed. Integrated management system is innovative.

The state enterprise “Zorya” - “Mashproekt” (Nikolaev) in 2013 provided gas supply to both Bizon and a number of other foreign customers, including Russia, India, and Vietnam. The demand for Dawn products - Mashproekt remains stable. Orders for offshore power plants - and in the export structure of Zarya - Mashproekt is about 20% - form the company's production program already before 2019. But, according to experts, the company's capabilities can be used even more actively.

Instead of conclusions

Evaluating the results of the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies on the top of the export iceberg, it can be argued that the concern managed to stabilize the situation in the defense industry and create prerequisites for increasing the volume of exports of military products and services. This was done under conditions when the main and classical pillar of the development of the national defense industry — the internal state defense order in the interests of the Armed Forces of Ukraine — was simply miserable and practically did not contribute to the tasks of industrial development. Sadly, 2014's situation looks even more complicated. Thus, in the current year, the Ministry of Defense’s planned expenditures on the development of armaments and military equipment, as compared to 2013, decrease from 919 million UAH ($ 114,8 million) to 463,316 million UAH ($ 57 million). Budget funds for the preparation of the production of new types of OBE through the Ministry of Industrial Policy are also scanty.

Of course, you need to consider that the budget and defense order 2014 g. conditions of economic crisis and state deficit were formed. But for some reason it is forgotten that investing in the defense industry should and can provide the necessary multiplier effect, can strengthen Ukraine’s position on international arms markets, and become the basis for fulfilling more export contracts and orders for a native army with higher profitability. The production capacity of the enterprises of the defense-industrial complex of Ukraine allows producing goods up to 50 billion UAH. And the annual volume of arms exports of Ukraine to the external market should be at least $ 2 billion. Such tasks, at first glance, look too ambitious. But the height of the bar determines how deeply and systematically further transformations will take place in the domestic defense industry and the power block, what will be the reaction to both external and internal challenges.

Analysis and development of solutions to minimize them requires a separate, detailed conversation - including the public component. It may be true that gun money loves silence. But no less true is that the further development of Ukraine along the technological path - where only the defense industry has so far developed, demonstrates the maximum share of value added in the national product being created - urgently requires systematic government attention and support. For breakthrough results, the activity of some “defense industry” or special exporters is no longer enough. We need integral long-term strategies.
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  1. invisibility
    invisibility 11 February 2014 07: 46
    +5
    Of course I'm happy for the Ukrainian gunsmiths! Think about the number: So, this year, the Cabinet’s planned expenditures by the Ministry of Defense for the development of weapons and military equipment, compared with 2013, decrease from 919 mln UAH ($ 114,8 mln), to 463,316 mln UAH ($ 57 mln)
    57 million for arms development ... It is regrettable.
    In general, it is necessary to create a single army, a single military-industrial complex, and then (or immediately) one state.
    1. Greyfox
      Greyfox 11 February 2014 09: 18
      +9
      Ukraine also fulfills a contract signed with 2009 with Iraq for the supply of 420 armored personnel carriers BTR-4 and vehicles based on it. This contract has become a serious challenge for the Ukrainian defense industry. As in 2009, the technological chain itself for serial production of the BTR-4 in Ukraine simply did not exist. The delivery in three years of a large number of new armored personnel carriers required a significant consolidation of the defense industry. That did not happen. As for 2012, as previously planned, the contract was not executed - due to a number of organizational, financial and technical reasons. Its implementation is still ongoing.

      Judging by this paragraph, the article is a junk filled with "mriyas" divorced from reality. The author did not hear about the scandal or was the article written before the "cruise" on the seas of the aforementioned armored personnel carriers? The reason for the export promotion of the unsuccessful T-64 tank was not mentioned. And she is very curious - the Soviet stocks of "walking" T-72 ran out, and then the accessories for the "non-walking" ran out (that's why the handicraft "humpback horse" T-72 with 5TDFMA-1 and sometimes with rollers from the T-55- sculpted from what was). The first grade is sold out, we take up the second ... Such is the goodness.
      1. sanek45744
        sanek45744 11 February 2014 15: 05
        -4
        Yes, they and the Indian order are not all right there (there was an article on the site about this) !!!! our bison stole !!!! how they can build and build ships themselves we see from their brand new corvettes)) laughing .see we see how they will get round with the bulwarks))) and Indonesia will look at this btr4 boom that floats in calm water almost doesn’t fill the roof in some kind of pond and will drown in general during waves))) Btr 3 well this is a little bit redone btr80! and then I don’t understand why the module with missiles is installed there! I think b and guns were enough for the eyes
        1. sapran
          sapran 11 February 2014 16: 01
          +11
          Broken link to the article that we have a poor Indian order please ...
          GTE if I'm not mistaken and Russia also buys (probably to the detriment of her beloved)
          As for the "boxes" - I am absolutely not against fair competition and if the Russians or China interrupt most of the tenders, then they are the leaders, but if it is profitable to make repairs and modernization in Ukraine, then I am incredibly happy about that. (the buyer is always right)
          1. sanek45744
            sanek45744 11 February 2014 18: 16
            -2
            I forgot where to find it here, but I went to another edition http://vpk-news.ru/articles/18651! it still says everything in that article that I read
            1. sapran
              sapran 11 February 2014 20: 46
              +2
              Sorry went to the link yelling that the page was not found
              1. Akim
                Akim 11 February 2014 20: 49
                +3
                Quote: sapran
                Sorry went to the link yelling that the page was not found

                Remove the last dash (fraction).
                1. sapran
                  sapran 11 February 2014 21: 10
                  +1
                  Thanks for reading! But just with the Indians we are going on a nominal basis. The fact that we have such a "unique" as Kiva (a rare element) well, as it were, in a family not without *****.
                  He loves money and kickbacks more than anything else ... it happens.
        2. allexx83
          allexx83 11 February 2014 22: 44
          0
          Also say that in your exercises the Ukrainian bester drowned)))
      2. Kars
        Kars 11 February 2014 15: 22
        +7
        Quote: Greyfox
        the author did not hear the scandal or the article was written before the "cruise" on the seas of the above-mentioned armored personnel carriers?

        You’ll write about your military-industrial complex, and there you’ll take up anti-advertising.
        Quote: Greyfox
        The reason for the export promotion of the unsuccessful T-64 tank is not mentioned.

        Who told you that he was unsuccessful. And the reasons are elementary - the reserves of T-64 are simply huge, and there is no sense in cutting them, let the Russian Federation do this.
        Quote: Greyfox
        and then the accessories for the "non-walking

        Component parts are already being produced at Ukrainian plants, and the engine has our own factory, and it has certain advantages.
        1. Greyfox
          Greyfox 11 February 2014 20: 33
          +2
          Quote: Kars

          You’ll write about your military-industrial complex, and there you’ll take up anti-advertising.
          Quote: Greyfox
          The reason for the export promotion of the unsuccessful T-64 tank is not mentioned.

          Who told you that he was unsuccessful. And the reasons are elementary - the reserves of T-64 are simply huge, and there is no sense in cutting them, let the Russian Federation do this.
          Quote: Greyfox
          and then the accessories for the "non-walking

          Component parts are already being produced at Ukrainian plants, and the engine has our own factory, and it has certain advantages.

          That is, you can post an implausible (advertising) article, but remember about the real facts of no-no. Only in the article about the Russian military-industrial complex. And yes, of course, the contract for armored personnel carriers goes according to plan ... lol It makes no sense to argue about the T-64, I know that there will be kilometers of arguments from you. I only note that the inexplicable reasons the wonderful, magnificent tank was first discontinued and replaced in its Kharkov homeland with the St. Petersburg T-80.
          1. Akim
            Akim 11 February 2014 20: 40
            +6
            Quote: Greyfox
            that for inexplicable reasons, a wonderful, magnificent tank was the first to be discontinued and replaced in its Kharkov homeland with the St. Petersburg T-80.

            The Zhiguli "penny" was a good car, and the "seven" was better. Although in many ways they are the same.
          2. Kars
            Kars 11 February 2014 23: 03
            +1
            Quote: Kars
            Quote: Greyfox
            That is, you can post an implausible (advertising) article
            It’s possible, it’s just necessary.
            Quote: Greyfox
            but remember about the real facts, no, no
            if not necessary then why?
            Quote: Greyfox
            Only in the article about the Russian military-industrial complex
            this is what you want. Although I will find many articles with no name and no tax.
            Quote: Greyfox
            For reasons a wonderful, magnificent tank was the first to be discontinued and replaced by the St. Petersburg T-80.
            progress. how T-55 changed T-34, how T-64 changed T-55.
            Or do you say that the T-34 and T-55 are unsuccessful tanks? This is in excellent agreement with the logic of your question.
        2. tank 34
          tank 34 12 February 2014 00: 40
          -2
          and cutting because of their absence. All t 64 are in the arsenal under Raisins. Due to the fact that there is a testing ground and a plant nearby. Mr. Dweoshnik. About rem. the base is not an analysis in the article, but just an advertisement of what Ukraine can do on the remnants of the past. Frankly, all contracts are made on snot.
          1. Kars
            Kars 12 February 2014 01: 24
            +4
            Quote: tank 34
            All t 64 are in the arsenal under Raisins

            why do you think so?
            Quote: tank 34
            Mr. Dweoshnik.

            teacher or what?
            Quote: tank 34
            About rem. the base is not an analysis in the article, but just an advertisement,

            Well, many are repairing Russian weapons using Ukrainian capacities, even recently purchased. Especially aircrafts.
            Quote: tank 34
            it’s not an analysis in the article, but just an advertisement,

            Are you a potential customer?
            Quote: tank 34
            Frankly, all contracts are made on snot.

            how did you manage to determine this after you did a deep analysis?

            Ground forces of Ukraine - - 1750 T-64 of which 650 are in storage, as of 2013 year

            The Military Balance 2013. - P. 239.
            Call, they don’t seem to be able to count the tanks of Ukraine.
      3. morpex
        morpex 11 February 2014 19: 34
        +5
        Quote: Greyfox
        export promotion of unsuccessful T-64 tank

        T-64 unsuccessful tank? Fear God, comrade. At one time in its niche it was the best tank! The first main battle tank! And there is still demand for the development of half a century ago.
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 11 February 2014 20: 43
          -3
          There is? are you sure? Or are you talking about a modernized version? Decide finally, and then there are doubts in connection with the recent statements of your MO about putting 2000 of these machines for cutting to metal.
          In fact, for its time, the tank really was super, but I can’t overcome it for more than 50 years .... hmmm I don’t know, they’ll carry a new active defense, but the armored packages themselves have been replaced by 3 generations during this time, but what about additional equipment that was not originally provided for by the design ? Where to put a thermal imager if for him, for example, there is not even a place? Do not dissemble them to upgrade will be too expensive and then we'll see who buys it.
          1. sapran
            sapran 11 February 2014 21: 04
            +3
            Well, let's decide for order who would like to? (purely theoretical)
            1. Those who need "for yesterday"
            2. For those who wanted something serious, but for political reasons, China and the Russian Federation are not available, and the rest is not affordable.
            3. Those who saw this as a rational grain (in a relatively short time, you can get a fleet of tanks of an unprecedented amount. Here they mentioned the disposal of 2000 pcs.)
            so anything is possible ...
          2. Alexander D.
            Alexander D. 11 February 2014 22: 40
            +4
            tilovaykrisa (3)


            And who in the Moscow Region declared that they were going to saw them? There was information that Europe was ready to pay for their liquidation, but here you give out wishful thinking. It is only Russia that is capable of sawing and melting tanks that could be sold.



          3. Setrac
            Setrac 11 February 2014 22: 43
            +2
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            Decide finally, and then there are doubts in connection with the recent statements of your MO about putting 2000 of these machines for cutting to metal.

            Well, so the production base remained in Ukraine and therefore they refused it, it has nothing to do with the characteristics of the tank.
    2. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 11 February 2014 11: 09
      0
      The article says that everything is fine and they received no money for toys, then the question arises: where is the money Zin ??? Since the Russian Federation is 15 billion?
      According to the article, it’s clear that not everything fell, but singing praises for me is too early for there are enough problems.
      1. Kars
        Kars 11 February 2014 15: 23
        +4
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        The article says that everything is fine and they received no money for toys, then the question arises: where is the money Zin ??

        More than 2 billions were earned in the production of railway equipment that year. But to say that here, that there is not net profit, but gross income. Maybe you understand.
        1. postman
          postman 11 February 2014 17: 40
          +3
          There are many minuses ... sadly
          -decrease in exports of metallurgical products (by 14,8%) (after the abolition of duty-free quotas for Ukrainian pipes in Russia)

          - exports of engineering products decreased (by 33,2%) due to the cessation of supply of railway cars in the Russian Federation.
          -decrease in exports of chemical products (by 11,5%) - due to a sharp decrease in the supply of fertilizers (by 46,1%) as a result of reduced production profitability.

          growth in the supply of agricultural products (by 1,1%):
          - grain exports increased by 14,4%, and oilseed supply doubled.
          =================
          Well, Maidan, of course, spoils you this year
          1. Kars
            Kars 11 February 2014 17: 53
            +3
            Did you officially choose only the minus in trade with the Russian Federation?

            Well, Putin said that they would increase the turnover of goods, but gas has fallen in price from the man’s shoulder (for now), and profitability may increase.
            But in principle it is clear why loans were needed.

            And I personally that Ukraine would focus on the agricultural sector
            Quote: Postman
            Well, Maidan, of course, spoils you this year

            Here the Yankees also drew with 15 billions - it’s not clear what reforms are required for them, and what Putin will do in response to this.
            1. tilovaykrisa
              tilovaykrisa 11 February 2014 20: 46
              -1
              LLC reforms will be exactly deep, the military industry certainly goodbye well, and Chermet too, Vova will not bargain, everything has a deflection limit.
            2. postman
              postman 11 February 2014 21: 55
              +1
              Quote: Kars
              Did you officially choose only the minus in trade with the Russian Federation?

              no. Forbes Ukraine sends, I need to work, daughters to study
              Quote: Kars
              And I personally that Ukraine would focus on the agricultural sector

              + shipbuilding (I would personally let the Ukrainians build the Black Sea and Mediterranean squadrons)
              + aircraft engine building
              + tourism (Crimea - how will you be "VseSNGovskaya health resort" now?)
              Quote: Kars
              Then the Yankees drew with 15 billion too

              They will deceive how the EEC deceived Hungary, Srebia, etc.

              Quote: Kars
              reforms require them, and what Putin will do in response to this.

              I would honestly not give you money (living). RASs3,14 days.
              Better:
              1.SP on shipbuilding (Nikolaev, etc.)
              2.SP on aircraft construction and aircraft engine building
              3.United Fleet
              4.unified air defense
              5.With tanks, where are the threads to upgrade
              6.Construction (yes, even in Vladivostok the base of the Navy will be given to Ukrainian builders)
              7.What a thread like that
          2. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 11 February 2014 20: 45
            0
            Well, that’s natural, spit in the neighbor’s face and next time he won’t take fifty dollars to paycheck.
        2. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 11 February 2014 20: 33
          -2
          Maybe you will understand something if you learn to look between the lines and not perceive the text formally to its content.

          Otherwise, I would write about the granary of the USSR and about where sugar, cheese and other delights are from now in Ukraine, or about how you melt beets into Belarus, do not pay for other gas pranks. Do not judge by the text; judge by the meaning, my advice to you.
          1. Kars
            Kars 11 February 2014 20: 41
            +4
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            about where now in Ukraine sugar and cheese

            There are both domestic production and import, as well as in Russia
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            about how the beetroot is fused into Belarus

            Well, if it is grown too much? The year before last they made so much sugar that the price went below the profitable one.
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            for gas

            we pay, but not on time. And they paid at inflated prices, which clearly proved how easily Putin lowered the price on him.
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            Do not judge by the text; judge by the meaning, my advice to you.

            I'm sorry, but you forgot to invest in the sense, or rather you didn’t want to.
            1. tilovaykrisa
              tilovaykrisa 12 February 2014 20: 56
              -1
              we pay, but not on time. And they paid at inflated prices, which clearly proved how easily Putin lowered the price on him.

              Is the price lower than European but is it overpriced for you? Explain how you differ from the EU, for example, with what fright for you the price should be lower? For Belarus, it is clear that it MUST be lower, but what do you mean?
              Over the past 10 years, your government has openly blackmailed the Russian Federation by shutting off gas transit to the geyropa, what kind of discount should you do for these exploits, and how did you take this lever away, so blackmail about joining the EU, no constructive is just stupid blackmail.

              All this I in no way refer to the simple Ukrainian people, but exclusively to your ruling power.

              I didn’t forget to invest, but we see different eyesight or I see something that you don’t see or vice versa.
              With all due respect, this discussion will not bring us anything positive.
      2. postman
        postman 11 February 2014 17: 37
        0
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        then the question arises where is the money Zin ???


        The surplus of the balance of payments in 2013 is $ 2 (The balance of payments of Ukraine in 000 was reduced with a surplus +, and in 000 a deficit of $ 000,0 billion -) /http://forbes.ua/
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 11 February 2014 20: 48
          -1
          Yes, of course Yanyk grandmother took av for herself not because there was nothing to pay on social payments))))
          1. postman
            postman 11 February 2014 21: 49
            -1
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            Yes, of course Yanyk grandmother took for himself

            Well ... this is a separate issue. the Slav brothers themselves will have to decide: how to continue to live and with whom (under whom more truly)
      3. allexx83
        allexx83 11 February 2014 22: 48
        0
        The question is correct, but has no relation to the technological side of the Ukrainian defense industry (((
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 11 February 2014 13: 55
      0
      Quote: invisible
      Of course I'm happy for the Ukrainian gunsmiths! Think about the number: So, this year, the Cabinet’s planned expenditures by the Ministry of Defense for the development of weapons and military equipment, compared with 2013, decrease from 919 mln UAH ($ 114,8 mln), to 463,316 mln UAH ($ 57 mln)
      57 million for arms development ... It is regrettable.
      In general, it is necessary to create a single army, a single military-industrial complex, and then (or immediately) one state.


      First, you need to solve the problem all at once than create something single. Taking into account current trends, this will not happen for a very long time.

      All this is an attempt to make a good face with very bad cards. Everyone knows everything, but some who do it all the same, and this is sad.
    4. Su24
      Su24 12 February 2014 03: 34
      0
      Quote: invisible
      Of course I'm happy for the Ukrainian gunsmiths! Think about the number: So, this year, the Cabinet’s planned expenditures by the Ministry of Defense for the development of weapons and military equipment, compared with 2013, decrease from 919 mln UAH ($ 114,8 mln), to 463,316 mln UAH ($ 57 mln)
      57 million for arms development ... It is regrettable.
      In general, it is necessary to create a single army, a single military-industrial complex, and then (or immediately) one state.


      Gold words. Only together can we survive.
  2. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 11 February 2014 07: 49
    +1
    Come on, sell it. Join Geyropu, your company will repair their plants as unnecessary competitors and you will trade yourself wassat And so even the remnants of the Great Country help to survive ...
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 11 February 2014 08: 47
      0
      If Ukraine is taken over by Europeans and Poles, Lithuanians may also buy something from them.
      If Nuland overcomes the EU, then Ukraine will be "allowed" to sell something somewhere.
      But there and there they can get a penny ...
      And in order to trade at the level they were planning at the beginning, after the "liberation" from the USSR, this time is ALREADY LOST ... request
      1. Letun
        Letun 11 February 2014 09: 59
        0
        Quote: mirag2
        If Ukraine is taken over by Europeans and Poles, Lithuanians may also buy something from them.
        If Nuland overcomes the EU, then Ukraine will be "allowed" to sell something somewhere.

        If they are allowed to sell a thread, it will be seeds, beetroot and everything in the same way, and they will cut the military production under the root, this does not go to the grandmother. Remember how in Ukraine, more recently, the Tu-160 was cut. So do not have any illusions.
        1. Kars
          Kars 11 February 2014 15: 24
          +5
          Quote: Letun
          Remember how in Ukraine more recently cut Tu-160

          where did the Russian Federation enter that cuts the largest atomic missile carriers inherited from the USSR?
          1. Kars
            Kars 11 February 2014 16: 53
            +4
            Quote: Kars
            cut

            ___________
      2. morpex
        morpex 11 February 2014 19: 40
        +7
        Quote: Rurikovich
        . Join Geyropu

        Quote: mirag2
        If Ukraine is taken over by European Poles

        Slavs. About Maidan, Europe and stuff like that on another branch. Here about tanks, armored personnel carriers and other weapons.
  3. paul72
    paul72 11 February 2014 07: 49
    +1
    this is an article in the spirit of "all is well beautiful marquise"
    blah blah blah about the armored personnel carrier.
    it’s strange why, then, a ship with armored personnel carriers for Iraq dangled for months in the sea, armored personnel carriers, unlike wine, do not get better with time
  4. Dimsan
    Dimsan 11 February 2014 08: 35
    -2
    The author forgot to say that the contract with Iraq was terminated, or rather Iraq terminated it))) And in general, it seems to me that they have troubles with pricing, everything is too cheap - they cross off technological processes in order to reduce the cost of production and eventually get cracks on the sides.
    But we have to admit that the engine building in Ukraine is on the rise, although they did not manage to ruin the enterprise, but will it survive after the "association" with Europe ????
    1. Akim
      Akim 11 February 2014 11: 31
      +2
      Quote: Dimsan
      that the contract with Iraq has been terminated, or rather, Iraq has terminated it

      ??? Show. As grandfather Nichipor said: DO NOT HURRY.
      1. Akim
        Akim 11 February 2014 21: 20
        +1
        Quote: Akim
        As grandfather Nichipor said: DO NOT HURRY.
    2. morpex
      morpex 11 February 2014 19: 43
      +4
      Quote: Dimsan
      contract with Iraq terminated, or rather Iraq terminated it))

      Seriously? Give me the official link.
  5. kelevra
    kelevra 11 February 2014 09: 48
    +2
    Thank you very much for the article! About a month ago, I asked to understand in detail the production and sales of Ukrainian weapons. Now everything became clear!
  6. Zabelin
    Zabelin 11 February 2014 10: 32
    +11
    Everything is so, just a little bit wrong. All the above figures and facts are the result of the powerful inertia of the previous years of work, no matter how ridiculous it may sound in the current conditions, but precisely until 2010. Those. before the creation of the Ukroboronprom concern, whose ardent advocate was the unforgettable Salamatin D. Today, the package of orders for special exporters is practically empty. What is the result of the activity, for example, of such a special exporter as Ukrinmash, which did not fulfill the plan for the last year by almost 50%. And so on for all special exporters. There is a draft decision by the Cabinet of Ministers to begin privatizing a part of the military-industrial complex as part of the restructuring of the Ukrboronprom State Corporation, which, incidentally, was created for this. For deriban. The same Malyshev plant has already been cut by half. Part of the equipment was exported to Kazakhstan under the guise of scrap metal, and the territory was transferred to the jurisdiction of private structures, affiliated with Dobkin and Kernes. The young and zealous team of "Ukroboronprom" drives in full, for the glory of their own pocket and the pocket of "Family".
    As part of the privatization, they expect an infusion of Russian capital into the remaining liquid enterprises. Their list coincides with the list of enterprises that Rogozin visited in December 2013.
  7. mentor69
    mentor69 11 February 2014 10: 51
    +2
    Not a bad, beautiful soap bubble. It's a shame for the attitude to the defense industry, and yet it evokes a sense of respect for the military-industrial complex in Russia. By and large, the basis (USSR) was one, but in the end ...
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 11 February 2014 22: 50
      +1
      Quote: mentor69
      By and large, the basis (USSR) was one, but in the end ...

      Russia got the main resource drinks Necessary for Development - Market
  8. svp67
    svp67 11 February 2014 11: 09
    0
    Signed a contract with one of the African countries for the sale of T64 ...
    Secrets, secrets ... Neither the country, nor the number of tanks, nor the timing ....
    1. Akim
      Akim 11 February 2014 11: 36
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      No country, no number of tanks, no deadlines ....

      There is none.
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 12 February 2014 07: 21
        0
        Akim, well, no, they say that this is the Congo. According to rumors, repairs + very budgetary modernization (DZ "Knife", like on T-64BM "Bulat" like), the number of xs. The tanks are already at the factory, work is underway. Not the fact that there will be information about the operation, the negroes are not very much sitting on the forums, discussing the pros and cons of their tanks. 10 T-64s were delivered in the early 00s to Angola, 50-65 (according to various sources) T-72UA with 5TDFMA engines have already been delivered to Ethiopia. But no operating information appears. Perhaps Ukrainian tankers have infa, but for some reason they do not share it, and it will be difficult to check it. I actually thought that you were Akim in the know.

        1. sapran
          sapran 12 February 2014 11: 36
          0
          how to respond so calmly ...
          T-72UA for Ethiopia has a very controversial unit. Why is it controversial and because they did not agree with ZIM (they have MTO on the topic "Banana" is safer without "perversions" with power take-off from 5TDF to the fan, which, to put it mildly, is unreliable) Well, I would not be outraged if the power take-off gearbox was made "on the knees" but it is normally composed and calculated or this option has not been previously worked out and tested
  9. Akim
    Akim 11 February 2014 11: 34
    +5
    Forgotten by high-precision ammunition, mention the Polish contract, Croatian and Vietnamese by aviation, Indian by sea (turbines for frigates).
  10. Jkob
    Jkob 11 February 2014 11: 40
    +3
    If we discard the "political foam" the article is very informative ...
  11. sapran
    sapran 11 February 2014 12: 18
    +10
    A huge "thank you" to all "well-wishers"! ... If it weren't for you, I don't even know how sad and "bad" we would be.
    1. The crap with hulls on some cars is confirmed (about 22 cars), the commission is working, in principle, they came to a certain compromise solution to the information about the termination of the contract and the announcement of a new tender on the official websites of the Iraqi Ministry of Defense and Ukrspetsexport has not yet seen if you provide links I will be grateful ...
    2. "Optimization" of production at ZIM is most likely a banal redistribution between suppliers and sub-contractors (many left-handed "imposed" structures) + "well-wishers" and those who like to sell scrap metal quickly --- but this is really the trouble of our so-called "elites".
    3. If the contract for securing the sale of T-64 will be entrusted to 115 plants, that is, there is every chance to save the beautiful plant and the remnants of its team, and any competitor can envy their best practices and ideas (just like an offer for any wallet thickness)
    There will only be problems in one thing: the training of the Technical staff who should subsequently operate these weapons models (here, seam, thanks to Salamitin and Co.)
    4. The sea is in doubt. We can offer good ship gas-turbine engines, we can cook hulls (but the issue of time indicators and prices) - until we build ourselves for people, it’s not worth shaming.
    5. For Transport Aviation, we have one hundred offers this line of tested An32, An72-74, An-70 (modification), and the An-140 family, 148-178.
    6. Guided missiles and systems for the modernization of aviation equipment of the USSR from the category for those who are poorer (workers' complexes, but they are far from the "leaders of capitalist production")
    We don’t even have questions about the competitiveness of our military-industrial complex in the context of imaginary integration, and examples of what will happen when integrating with the vehicle are in full view (Belarus and Kazakhstan), so thanks another time or on other conditions ...
    1. Greyfox
      Greyfox 11 February 2014 14: 09
      0
      Quote: sapran

      5. For Transport Aviation, we have one hundred offers this line of tested An32, An72-74, An-70 (modification), and the An-140 family, 148-178.

      Buyers are probably in line? You can find out how many have been delivered over the past 10 years and to which countries (just remove from your numbers the aircraft that were purchased at the expense of the Russian budget (exclude Cuba and North Korea, they also make orders for Russian money). "well-wishers".
      1. sapran
        sapran 11 February 2014 15: 55
        +1
        Explain what to clean yet? Libya supplies 2 An-72s, (I don’t remember about 74 and 32), Iran produces An-140 from car kits and builds an aircraft factory for them.
        Iraq - An-32 has already been shipped there, Modernization and before the purchase of An-32 for the Indian Air Force. -In fact, if you need figures specifically for countries, then I will ask the "specialists" I prefer "boxes"
      2. postman
        postman 11 February 2014 17: 47
        +3
        Quote: Greyfox
        You can find out how much over the past 10 years has been delivered and to which countries (just remove from your numbers the planes that were purchased from the Russian budget


        Thanks to the enterprises of "Ukroboronprom" Ukraine remains in the top five world exporters of weapons

        old figures (Dynamics of sales of arms and military equipment by Ukraine (million dollars)):


        Radar equipment of Zaporizhzhya Design Bureau Iskra and ZMZ Iskra are delivered to 32 countries of the world. Navigation equipment for the Navy, automated systems and means of navigation and motion control Research Institute “Quantum”, Research Institute “Quantum-Navigation”, serial plants “Burevestnik”, “Radar” are exported to India, China, Iran, Algeria.

        The largest share of exports was aircraft (almost $ 2,5 billion, i.e. more than 35%) and armored vehicles (almost $ 2,2 billion, i.e. more than 32%)

        1997 — 1999 years — the supply of 320 T-80UD tanks to Pakistan (the total amount of the contract, according to various sources, ranged from $ 580 million to $ 650 million).

        1998 — 2000 years — the supply of 67 T-72M1 tanks, 64 infantry fighting vehicles BMP-2 and 28 helicopters Mi-24В and Mi-35 to Algeria.

        2001 year - delivery of the 31 tank T-72 and 16 helicopters Mi-24В, Mi-35, Mi-8 and Mi-17 of Macedonia.

        2001 — 2003 years - the delivery of two An-124-100 Libya transport aircraft ($ 145 million each).

        2004 — 2007 years — supply of 45 T-72 tanks, 18 armored personnel carriers BTR-80 and 14 MiG-29 fighters to Azerbaijan.

        2005 — 2007 years - supply of 90 T-72 tanks to Georgia.

        2006 — 2007 years — supply of 21 MiG-21 fighter and 12 Su-22 Yemenu fire support aircraft for a total amount of $ 119 million

        2006 — 2007 years — supply of 100 X-59 anti-submarine cruise missiles to Russia ($ 1 million each).
        1. Greyfox
          Greyfox 11 February 2014 20: 42
          0
          The composition of the equipment shows how Ukraine was selling weapons that it had inherited from the USSR and which for the most part was not manufactured to it. Remember Georgia, but what did you not remember about the air defense systems? The reserves are not endless, what will you do next?
          1. Akim
            Akim 11 February 2014 20: 46
            +1
            Quote: Greyfox
            The reserves are not endless, what will you do next?

            If there was money, we’ll buy ours. But pennies trfu-oooh.
          2. postman
            postman 11 February 2014 22: 02
            +3
            Quote: Greyfox
            weapons inherited from the USSR

            - You might think that the Russian Federation is wrong?
            - What about Motorsich? a "Navigation equipment for the Navy, automated complexes and means of navigation and traffic control"
            Quote: Greyfox
            But what did not remember about the air defense systems?

            -Not me, but a guide
            Well, if you want, please:

            ? AND
            Everything was delivered LEGALLY!
            1.Remind you: in June 1941 Soviet cities were already bombed, and railway trains went from the USSR to Germany with food, fuel and lubricants, raw materials, metal)
            2. Russia donated Georgia 108 T-55 tanks, 111 BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles (6 of them in the commander’s version), 14 BRM-1K armored reconnaissance vehicles and 4 BTR-70 armored personnel carriers. In addition, the 142nd tank repair plant in Tbilisi was transferred to the balance of the Georgian Ministry of Defense

            Quote: Greyfox
            what will you do next?

            Ukrainians need to think about it, but I don’t think that there are (will be) problems. Ukraine is not only an “all-Union health resort and granary”, but also a country (republic) with a VERY NORMAL PRODUCTION, TECHNOLOGICAL AND SCIENTIFIC potential.
            It is not necessary to consider that there alone Maidan workers live
            1. Greyfox
              Greyfox 12 February 2014 08: 33
              0
              In fact, it was not about "legal-illegal". The share of second-hand weapons produced in the USSR in the export of the Russian Federation is very small. Newly made for sale. Or did you mean that the Russian Federation produces samples that were designed in the USSR? Then write that. Now, with regard to the "sensational" supplies to Georgia. Don't disturb weak minds. We are talking about weapons that went to Georgia following the collapse of the USSR and these "deliveries and sales" took place in 1992, mainly through the actual seizure of the remnants of military units of the USSR Armed Forces by rodents.
              My idea was that after the reserves of READY SAMPLES inherited from the USSR were exhausted, the arms export of Ukraine would inevitably go into the field of repair-modernization of these very ready-made samples of the Soviet legacy (which would also have its final deadlines, the same Croatia years through 10 from MiG- 21 will get rid of) and deliveries of individual (albeit as important as ship gas-turbine engine) parts. Take a look at 15 for years ahead - what's next?
              1. postman
                postman 12 February 2014 13: 28
                +1
                Quote: Greyfox
                The share of used weapons produced in the USSR in the export of the Russian Federation is very small.

                -Submarines: The Ministry of Defense of Indonesia intends to send a special delegation to Russia, which will check the physical condition of used submarines of the Kilo type (NATO classification, project 877 "Halibut") ./ Purchase of used B-402 Vologda analogues of project 877 = sales plan 10 pieces
                -The Russian Navy decided to abandon the submarines of project 677 (better known as Lada) ./ India, Indonesia, perhaps the Republic of Kazakhstan wish to acquire
                - “Vikramaditya” / heavy aircraft carrier cruiser “Admiral Gorshkov”
                -Aircraft carrier “Minsk”
                Well, and so on. You can continue. Is it right?
                Quote: Greyfox
                occurred in 1992, mainly through the actual capture by rodents of the remnants of military units of the USSR Armed Forces.

                -At the beginning of 2001 year a number of Georgian army officers were trained in Academy of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces
                -Sakartvelos Jaris Ganvitarebis Fondi Angarishis funded, it was uncomfortable to buy at # 15, and the rest of the No. offered cheaper
                1 Albania
                2 Bulgaria
                3 Bosnia and Herzegovina
                4 UK
                5 Hungary
                6 Greece
                7 Israel
                8 Italy
                9 Kazakhstan
                10 China
                11 Latvia
                12 Lithuania
                13 Netherlands
                14 Poland
                15 Russia
                16 Romania
                17 Serbia
                18 USA
                19 Turkey
                20 Uzbekistan
                21 Ukraine
                22 Finland
                23 Germany
                24 France
                25 Montenegro
                26 Czech Republic
                27 Switzerland
                28 Sweden
                29 Estonia
                30 South Africa

                I would not call this worthy (Georgian) people "rodents". For example, I cannot imagine the history of my Motherland (Russia) without Bregvadze, Shota Rustaveli, Danelia, Kikabidze, Bagration, Nadiradze ...
                isok can continue.
                Do not be like the possessed Mishiko
                about 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX .. it's not that simple. read the tablet at your leisure

                Quote: Greyfox
                gun export of Ukraine will inevitably go into the field of repair-modernization

                ?
                Kyiv Radar Plant OJSC, Novator SE, SE FED Kharkov Machine-Building Plant, 171st Chernigov Repair Plant SE, Orion Scientific Research Institute, the largest in the CIS, a manufacturer of armored vehicles - Kharkiv plant named after Malyshev, Enterprises of missile and artillery weapons (UAS "KVITNYK", a shot from the UR "STUGNA", ATGM (ATGM) "SKIF", "KORSAR", "BARRIER", ZRAK "Centaur") etc
                He looked in.
                1. Greyfox
                  Greyfox 12 February 2014 14: 58
                  0
                  I would not call this worthy (Georgian) people "rodents". For example, I cannot imagine the history of my Motherland (Russia) without Bregvadze, Shota Rustaveli, Danelia, Kikabidze, Bagration, Nadiradze ...


                  What does these worthy people and moral yods, selflessly robbing our warehouses in 91-92 gg, killing our soldiers in 2008? For me it's rodents.
                  At the beginning of 2001, a number of Georgian army officers were trained at the Academy of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces

                  Do the rodent army officers go through your used weapons column?
                  -Aircraft carrier “Minsk”

                  Selling a (corrupt) scrap ship is an arms export? Do not tell me in which fleet he donkey?
                  - “Vikramaditya” / heavy aircraft carrier “Admiral”
                  Gorshkov "

                  This is also past the checkout. In essence, a new ship (in terms of volume and cost of work) was sold + a batch of new MiG-29 to it. We will leave the gained experience and created cooperation outside the brackets. As they say, compare this and the artisanal alteration of the T-72 under the Ukrainian opposition.
                  Now about the used boat. How much will they make up as a percentage of our exports? Everything is known in comparison. Here and compare the used share in Ukraine and ours.
                  And yet. The list of Ukrainian enterprises cannot be directly linked to the volume of arms exports. Especially smiled your highlight
                  the largest producer of armored vehicles in the CIS - the Kharkov plant named after Malyshev
                  This is all the more ridiculous when compared with the volume of new tanks produced at the "medium-sized" UVZ.
                  ZRAK "Centaur" -OOOOO! These are not Olympic rings - this is a groan. laughing Separate fantasies from reality.
                  PS The plate is not readable, so I can’t comment on it, I can’t even see it under the magnifying glass.
    2. Kars
      Kars 11 February 2014 15: 26
      +2
      Quote: sapran
      2. "Optimization" of production at ZIM

      Or maybe it’s just real optimization? Zim under the USSR released 800 tanks and had 30 000 workers, now there will not be such a pace.
    3. Setrac
      Setrac 11 February 2014 22: 53
      -1
      Quote: sapran
      We don’t even have questions about the competitiveness of our military-industrial complex in the context of imaginary integration, and examples of what will happen when integrating with the vehicle are in full view (Belarus and Kazakhstan), so thanks another time or on other conditions ...

      But in any case, the TS is the best option from the proposed Ukraine, no matter how you like it, other options are even worse.
      1. Akim
        Akim 11 February 2014 22: 57
        +4
        Quote: Setrac
        But in any case, the TS is the best option offered from Ukraine,

        After today's fall of the tenge, I still have big doubts.
  12. Leshka
    Leshka 11 February 2014 14: 02
    +2
    GOOD FAMILY GOOD BUT AND FOR YOURSELF ALSO NEEDED TO DO
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  15. nekromonger
    nekromonger 11 February 2014 14: 19
    +1
    Yes, the author didn’t hear about BTR-4 Iraq.
    1. Akim
      Akim 11 February 2014 14: 21
      0
      Quote: nekromonger
      Yes, the author didn’t hear about BTR-4 Iraq.

      Have you heard? Probably firsthand?
  16. terrible
    terrible 11 February 2014 19: 08
    -5
    ) Ukrainian VPK can already be flushed down the toilet! trade in junk and marriage.)))
  17. Victor Wolz
    Victor Wolz 11 February 2014 19: 14
    +2
    Let's look at the T-64 on the tank biathlon, we can buy)
    1. Akim
      Akim 11 February 2014 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: Victor Wolz
      we can purchase)

      Your own few?
    2. Strider
      Strider 11 February 2014 23: 58
      -1
      Do not purchase and upgrade old ones! winked
  18. RoTTor
    RoTTor 11 February 2014 19: 34
    -1
    How long will it still be possible to parasitize on the remnants of the USSR military-industrial complex and the huge repair base of the USSR Ministry of Defense, which Ukraine inherited?
    Repair company zhel.dor. Transport Ministry of Railways of the USSR - almost half of all Union facilities, successfully destroyed.

    This segment is a feeder for especially close ones.
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    1. Kars
      Kars 11 February 2014 20: 34
      +3
      Quote: Greyfox
      That is, you can post an implausible (advertising) article

      It’s possible, it’s just necessary.
      Quote: Greyfox
      but remember about the real facts, no, no

      if not necessary then why?
      Quote: Greyfox
      Only in the article about the Russian military-industrial complex

      this is what you want. Although I will find many articles with no name and no tax.
      Quote: Greyfox
      For reasons a wonderful, magnificent tank was the first to be discontinued and replaced by the St. Petersburg T-80.

      progress. how T-55 changed T-34, how T-64 changed T-55.
      Or do you say that the T-34 and T-55 are unsuccessful tanks? This is in excellent agreement with the logic of your question.
  20. Klim2011
    Klim2011 11 February 2014 21: 51
    +1
    If the article is 90 percent true, you can only be glad for the neighbors!
    In these conditions, even carts need to be sold, but it is necessary by any means to preserve the potential of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine.
  21. allexx83
    allexx83 11 February 2014 22: 57
    +1
    There are enterprises in Ukraine, but it is difficult with orders. Russia does not have time to fulfill the state order. That's how we live ((((
  22. LINX
    12 February 2014 01: 23
    +2
    He who wants to work - he works. There are mistakes, without this in any way, but the work goes on. That's from fresh

    SP GKHVP “SPECIAL TECHNICAL EXPORT” SIGNED A CONTRACT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF SAMS IN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE TENDER OF THE DEFENSE OF INDIA

    Representatives of the subsidiary GHVP "Spetstekhnoexport" and the state corporation Larsen & Toubro ltd. (India) signed a contract for the development of anti-aircraft missile artillery as part of a tender for the supply of 138 air defense systems for the country's Ministry of Defense. This was announced by the First Deputy General Director of the State Corporation "Ukroboronprom" Andrei Stefanishin.
    The Indian corporation is the recipient of the tender documentation and has the right to participate in the tender. One combat and one command vehicles will be delivered. The command vehicle will be manufactured by the Kharkov Automobile Plant, the combat vehicle will be manufactured by the State Enterprise "State Design Bureau" Luch ", the gun will be manufactured by the State Enterprise" Design Bureau "Armament", which are part of the Concern. In case of successful tests, the equipment will be delivered to the Ministry of Defense of India.
    1. sapran
      sapran 12 February 2014 01: 40
      +1
      Signed belay Why are we doing this ?! Who will do the electronics ?! I'm About specialists, here the last grandfathers were "optimized" about 250 people remained on Shevchenko ...
      I agree that we are able to make tolerable chassis, there are missiles and in principle a 40 mm barrel (the ammunition will obviously not be ours) we can do. But with the conjugation of all this into a single system with the total depreciation of the human and production fund in this direction, there will be SHVAH
      1. LINX
        12 February 2014 01: 57
        +2
        The beam has been quietly working on this topic for a long time, I think they have a basis, for the Arabs they have done a lot on this topic, the Germans sawed something. They announced that they have an almost ready-made air defense system, but I don’t even know about the art part ...
      2. Akim
        Akim 12 February 2014 07: 00
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        Quote: sapran
        Who will do electronics ?!

        For example, Research Institute of Quantum. This complex will still fall into the tender. (for example, with Russian and Korean) and is unlikely to win, but the development will be done for other people's money.
  23. Zoryana Mriya
    Zoryana Mriya 12 February 2014 05: 25
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    Thanks a lot to the author for a fairly objective article! as well as for using the phrase "In Ukraine" instead of the disrespectful "IN Ukraine"! I bow to you !!!
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 12 February 2014 10: 34
      -3
      Quote: Zoryana Mriya
      Thanks a lot to the author for a fairly objective article! as well as for using the phrase "In Ukraine" instead of the disrespectful "IN Ukraine"! I bow to you !!!

      This is how the Westerner wrote, so instead of the usual "in Ukraine" this loser appeared in Ukraine.
      As they said in Soviet times: not В shit so В the party
      1. Akim
        Akim 12 February 2014 12: 38
        +1
        Quote: Setrac
        This is how the Westerner wrote, so instead of the usual "in Ukraine" this loser appeared in Ukraine.

        Screams of Ukrainophobe. Putin recently in Italy also said in Ukraine. What's going to go in cycles? Thanks not to the author, but to the admin who missed. For example, in my articles is redone. But this is not essential. In Poland they also say na Ukraine.
  24. Cristall
    Cristall 14 February 2014 19: 02
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    somehow even optimistic, the share of high-precision is pleasing. But the potential is higher, but the possibilities are a bit limited and there are many competitors. Yes, and problems with those staff and personnel ..here alas.