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77 airplanes and more 100 helicopters in 2013 year!

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Unlike the shipbuilding program, the aircraft industry shows steady growth in all respects. GOZ is made almost at 100%, and for a number of positions and exceeded. New technology massively went to the troops. So, in 2012, the troops came 40 airplanes of all types, in this already 77! In the helicopter industry, the growth is not so big, but this is already limited by the order book and the total workload of enterprises in export and domestic supplies. So, in comparison with the 292 helicopters built in the 2013 year, this will be in the area of ​​320 units for all customers. Separately, it should be noted the general state of the industry, which is gradually gaining momentum. So, in 2012, it was built for military and civilian customers 68 aircraft of all types, and this year only on state defense order + civil aviation107 machines, excluding export orders! In civil aircraft construction with 30 built aircraft reached the turn of the year 1993. Well, now for more details on deliveries within the framework of the state defense order for 2013 a year.



12 Su-35C on December 25 report from General Victor Bondarev. All transferred cars went to Dzemgi.



14 Su-34, all year in batches in 1-3 machines. The contract for the 32 aircraft from the 2008 year was closed. The first two vehicles were also delivered under the 2012 contract of the year on an 92 aircraft of this type.



14 Su-30CM - 4 (54, 55, 56, 57) transferred to the beginning of the year Lipetsk, then the 1007-1016 (01-10) aircraft in Domnu.


4 Su-30М2 - 79810387938 bn 20 red, 79810387939 bn 40 red, 79810387940 bn 40 red, 79810388101 bn 30 blue, first 4 Su-30М2 under last year's contract. Taken at the end of December 2013, the stage in Dzemgi and Corner, one car will be surpassed this year, 27 December 2 machines (20 and 40 red) went to Krymsk.


4 MiG-29K / UB - 2 MiG-29K and 2 MiG-29KUB transferred to the Navy on November 25 from a contract for a new type of 24 ship fighter.


18 (20) Yak-130 as part of the 8 contract of December 2011 for the supply of 55 aircraft. All aircraft went to Borisoglebsk. At the end of December, the first pair of Yak-130 2014 of the year was transmitted ahead of schedule.


1 An-148-100E. The first aircraft delivered 6 December 2013 of the year under the contract to 2017 of the year on 17 aircraft for the Air Force. The aircraft was transferred to the 800 base in Chkalovsky.

77 airplanes and more 100 helicopters in 2013 year!

3 An-140-100 13А007 for the Air Force of the Russian Federation made the first flight of 19 February 2013 of the year, transferred to the customer 5 of April 2013 of the year. Factory 13А004 (RA-41255) transferred to October 13. The factory 13А009 was transferred to December 21 in naval aviation.


3 L-410UVP-E20 for the Air Force of the Russian Federation. An aircraft marked OK-JDC 26 on June 2013 of the year arrived in Nizhny Novgorod for further flight to Chkalovsky. An aircraft marked OK-JDD arrived on July 9 2013 of the year in Nizhny Novgorod, then made a further flight at the place of deployment to Chkalovsky. L-410UVP-E20 OK-JDE 13 October October, the Air Force received the third aircraft of this type.


TU-154. The last production aircraft Tu-154M with registration of RA-85042 was transferred to the RF Ministry of Defense 19 February 2013 of the year.


Tu-Xnumhon. The long-term construction project was finally finalized, and the Air Force accepted the 214 August 20 of the year for trial operation.



No less than 14 Mi-28Н - transfer of 10 airborne in ZVO in 15 brigade to the base Island: numbers 01-10. In 546 base supplied 4 board.



Not less than 17 Ka-52. So, December 25 transferred the batch to 14 machines, which will be transported to Rostvertol and assembled already in 2014, the recipient is the 15 brigade. It was also put 3 new Ka-52 in Chernigovka. 16 helicopters of the 2013 assembly of the year in Rostvertol do not count, for the transfer of 2012 machines from the Progress.



No less than 8 Mi-35: a batch of 2 vehicles in the Southern Military District (Korenovsk) and 2 ZVO to the Island - October 20, another 4 Mi-35 transferred to the Island as part of the delivery of 10 helicopters in December.


4 Mi-26 for a year transferred w / n 53, 54, 55, 56, all new construction.


53 Mi-8AMTSH. During the year, the plant in Ulan-Ude over-fulfilled the plan for 2013 for the year and handed over to the troops 53 Mi-8AMTSH. On the receipt of helicopters reported General Viktor Bondarev.



More 10 Mi-8МТВ5: two vehicles were delivered to Tver in February 2013 of the year without the 84 and 85 yellow. 6 new helicopters to the base near St. Petersburg - from November 18 2013. Small deliveries went to the Southern Military District and the Western Military District without specifying the exact quantity.


Not less than 6 "Ansat-U". Helicopters with b / n 42, 43, 44, 45, 46 yellow to the Syzran center from 20 March 2013, perhaps, this is the 2012 machine of the year, distilled in February. Six new "Ansat-U" on a press release from 22 November 2013 of the year. Delivery to Syzran.



On the aircraft repair is not so rosy. There is a rather low quality of work in many enterprises, the industry still needs to restore order and saturate it with new equipment. However, there are some positive shifts. So, for a year 3 AN-124-100 was repaired: RA-82030, RA-82035, RA-82037. The Su-25CM modernization program is also continuing: during the year at least 12 aircraft were transferred, mainly to Primorsko-Akhtarsk.

Next year, the aircraft must deliver even more. The largest increase is expected at Irkut. But by helicopters, we should expect deliveries in the region of hundreds of cars, maybe. and less.
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  1. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 28 December 2013 08: 06
    +19
    from the Don.
    I’m glad I would have pulled myself up with a large-capacity Navy!
    1. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 28 December 2013 09: 35
      +20
      To all the prowlers LITTLE from the Russian bear !!!

      By the way, a good article was published by the Swedish Institute for Defense Research on the state of the Russian armed forces
      Quote:
      From the point of view of Swedish experts, such patriotic anti-western course and such a budget policy enjoy wide support among the population who see in Russia a great power.
      “They think it’s reasonable use of funds and we’re ready to give money to the military sector, ”said research director Carolina Wendil Pallin. “This position is not planted from above, but grows from Russian identity.”
      1. ldimon
        ldimon 30 December 2013 00: 44
        0
        ARTICLE PLUS-IT IS NECESSARY TO REVIVE RUSSIA'S AVIATION. AND THERE ARE TO THE LILIPUTS DOY ..MSYA
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 28 December 2013 09: 39
      +1
      Updating the fleet is a very important task, but where is the shipyard?
      Nikolaev, where "the most" of our ships were built, in Ukraine, and died to a heap, in St. Petersburg it still works back and forth, well, the "submarine" - that's why the fleet lagged behind ...
      1. just exp
        just exp 28 December 2013 21: 42
        +2
        But you need to forget about Sevmash?
    3. Civil
      Civil 28 December 2013 10: 38
      +4
      Aviation went ...
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 29 December 2013 11: 37
      +1
      Donavi49 thanks for the article! soldier
  2. AGM-114
    AGM-114 28 December 2013 08: 07
    +14
    Quite a low quality of work at many enterprises is noted.

    Two-thirds of the ARZ just need to disperse to hell. For they are a miserable sight with a contingent of three and a half grandfathers who remodel old parts (most often alteration consists in overwriting factory numbers) and forge documents for them. Due to such an initiative, the 31st recently crashed, by the way.
    The remaining third of the ARZ in the form of the 121st, 308th and 360th does everything in good faith.
    1. Voronbit
      Voronbit 28 December 2013 09: 55
      +1
      But what, only write in a nameless name? if you are in this matter Copenhagen and you are sick for your homeland, go to the prosecutor’s office ... or ..... to reproving writers it’s fashionable
      1. stranik72
        stranik72 28 December 2013 19: 21
        0
        The Prosecutor's Office was given the command "business is not a nightmare", so no one bothers anyone and no one is afraid of anyone. Therefore, both the low quality of repair and "new" helicopters and airplanes created more than 30 years ago are being sold at prices comparable to the best world samples, the profit from the sale of which the RF Ministry of Defense (including) settles in tanks on foreign accounts while in the production of technology and pennies fall into human potential. That is why so many people are in the illusory fog of the growing power of the Russian Federation.
    2. not main
      not main 29 December 2013 01: 12
      0
      Wise guy! Not only in the office has grown! You at least go into the hangar, and then p ... di!
  3. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 28 December 2013 08: 12
    +10
    About aircraft repair is precisely noticed, the fall of Migov after repair is a confirmation of this. And saturation of the Air Force with new machines pleases, keep it up!
  4. Normal
    Normal 28 December 2013 08: 29
    +10
    New technology is very good! Nevertheless, the Tu-154 is the most beautiful car! Something still had its own, native to the Soviet design of hydrofoils and airplanes.
  5. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 December 2013 08: 58
    +10
    Whoever says that, there is a rearmament ... Very beautiful planes and helicopters in the photo (and not because ours ..) We can build if we want! Well, God forbid, in 2014 to double or better triple this amount ..
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 29 December 2013 02: 15
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Whoever says that, there is a rearmament ... Very beautiful planes and helicopters in the photo (and not because ours ..) We can build if we want! Well, God forbid, in 2014 to double or better triple this amount ..


      At such a pace, in 3-4 years the Russian Federation will reach the USSR (well, given the fact that the population in Russia is half the size)
  6. alex-cn
    alex-cn 28 December 2013 09: 02
    0
    All this pleases, only answer me what is the percentage of at least the minimum required amount?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 December 2013 09: 15
      +6
      Quote: alex-cn
      only answer me what is the percentage of at least the minimum required amount?

      This is demagogy, simply because 1.5 thousand planes cannot be released right away. And about 5 percent of the total number of planes. If the bombers. So 30% are already rearmament. The rest are behind, except for the turntable
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 28 December 2013 12: 42
        +1
        Thank you, this is more specific and understandable, but still I would like to quickly ...
  7. Odysseus
    Odysseus 28 December 2013 09: 19
    +7
    Really not bad. Some questions were about the transfer of the Su-35, but if we managed to do it on time, then it was fine. Well, if some of the planes will be transferred to the 2013 defense orders in early 2014, it's okay too smile
    Thus, in 2014 on the new materiel there will be: one Su-35 squadron (Dzemgi), one Su-30SM squadron (Domna), one Su-27SM3 squadron (Krymsk and / or Lida), one Mig-29SMT regiment (Kursk) , one regiment of Su-34 (Baltimore) plus an incomplete squadron (Morozovsk), 8 Su-30M2 as UBs scattered in different parts, 4 MiG-29K / KUB and naval aviation.
    This is something, although in fact there are still tears. It would be nice to have more AWACS, EW, RTR aircraft and modern weapons in combat units. And the pilot training system should be restored in a "pre-reform" form.
    Well, in army aviation, things are going well with the materiel. Truth and the Mi-28 and Ka-52 and Mi-35 still require improvements, but without them.
    Donavi49-thanks for the review!
  8. ed65b
    ed65b 28 December 2013 09: 50
    +19
    Crocodiles my beloved went. drinks Down and Out trouble started. But a few years ago they didn’t even dream about it. And Rogozin is constantly scolding, and he works. On the positive, I'm leaving for the holiday, there’s something for it. good
  9. Wiruz
    Wiruz 28 December 2013 09: 52
    +2
    We did a good job this year, I hope there will be no less technology in the next.
    There is a question for knowledgeable people, how do the Su-30M2 and Su-30SM essentially differ from each other?
    1. donavi49
      28 December 2013 10: 11
      +5
      Su-30М2 - a cheap board with rather limited capabilities on the ground and in the sky (Su-27СМ level), is used as a UB.
      Su-30СМ - an advanced board of the MKI level, extensive capabilities for working on the ground and in the sky, good radar. But it costs more.

      In fact, the Su-30M2 is made to replace and to saturate UB, especially for air bases with new equipment (the cabin is nevertheless closer than that of the Su-27UB).
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 28 December 2013 13: 02
        +2
        Thank you, otherwise the web is silent about this. And M2 doesn’t seem to have front horizontal tail, right?
      2. VAF
        VAF 28 December 2013 13: 14
        +12
        Quote: donavi49
        Su-30М2 - a cheap board with rather limited capabilities on the ground and in the sky (Su-27СМ level), is used as a UB.


        Do not use unreliable information! soldier
        27CM to the level of 30M2 ... "it will be too far" .. especially in terms of .. "work on the ground."
        1. On the SM on the ground .. these are basically "Wishlist" on the application of the WTO.
        2. SM cannot use the X-59 missile, but 30M2 ... easily and naturally.
        Well, etc. soldier
        But the fact that 30M2 is used .. like UB ... is from .... well, you understand from what!
        And no matter how hard they try to "persuade" that the Yak-130 is "our everything" and "for any type" .. it's all advertising.
        In fact .. no Yak-130 will replace the UB by type ... none !!! soldier
        1. Army1
          Army1 28 December 2013 14: 57
          +2
          Quote: vaf
          Quote: donavi49
          Su-30М2 - a cheap board with rather limited capabilities on the ground and in the sky (Su-27СМ level), is used as a UB.


          Do not use unreliable information! soldier
          27CM to the level of 30M2 ... "it will be too far" .. especially in terms of .. "work on the ground."
          1. On the SM on the ground .. these are basically "Wishlist" on the application of the WTO.
          2. SM cannot use the X-59 missile, but 30M2 ... easily and naturally.
          Well, etc. soldier
          But the fact that 30M2 is used .. like UB ... is from .... well, you understand from what!
          And no matter how hard they try to "persuade" that the Yak-130 is "our everything" and "for any type" .. it's all advertising.
          In fact .. no Yak-130 will replace the UB by type ... none !!! soldier

          Good day, Sergey! Happy you and everyone on the site! drinks I am very happy for the pace of rearmament of our Air Force, I am sure the pace will grow. Of course, I understand the top secret, but is the number of aircraft really different from open sources? I even mean not now, after all, the reform, outdated and modernized, but the figure 2020, 2000 LA is this our reality? Is it possible to increase? Of course, our air defense is not weak, but sometimes it is necessary to defend ourselves outside the state. Those states have> 2000 fighters alone, of course there are aircraft carriers with castrated hornets, but also f 15, the potential of f 16 and f 35, I think not very much, because it is not in vain that many regret stopping the production of raptors.
  10. Garik
    Garik 28 December 2013 10: 15
    +4
    People enlighten about the storage conditions of new and used equipment. Hangars, shelters build ???
  11. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 28 December 2013 10: 21
    +11
    He always answered the polymer workers, it is impossible to instantly accelerate the production of military equipment, especially if they have not done anything for 20 years, but only reduced it. And this acceleration directly depends on the capital intensity of a particular type of weapon. On the example of shipbuilding and aircraft manufacturing, this can be seen immediately. If acceleration is not so hot for large ships, then progress is clearly being made for small ships. All the same, building a large ship and an airplane for labor costs are two different things. I think if firmness is achieved in achieving the goal, everything will be fine with us! All with the coming, more planes are good and different.
  12. Same lech
    Same lech 28 December 2013 10: 30
    +7
    SU-34 is a powerful machine - in a group air raid, it will erase any air defense of some sort of dictator like SAAKASHVILI.
    1. VAF
      VAF 28 December 2013 13: 59
      +28
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      in a group air raid, it will erase any anti-aircraft defense of some sort of dictator such as SAAKASHVILI.


      Smallish "take". wink If a group, yes with "support" .... you can easily "pull" any air defense ... including "NATu" wassat
      And you mean some .. "dictator" -soap lol
      The truth is that it is the professionals who should plan such strikes, and not ... those who "threw" the Air Force in August 2008. soldier
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 28 December 2013 21: 18
        +2
        Quote: vaf
        If a group, yes with "support" .... you can easily "pull" any air defense ... including "NATu"


        Golden words!
        drinks
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 28 December 2013 21: 57
        -5
        And that in 2008 we had time to plan something? You will give credit when you yourself are about to attack someone.
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 29 December 2013 02: 21
          +4
          Quote: EvilLion
          And that in 2008 we had time to plan something? You will give credit when you yourself are about to attack someone.


          Well ... firstly, they plan a lot in peacetime, before the war, secondly they work out even more as a model in peacetime, well, and thirdly ... if you can’t plan in conditions of war, when everything around is unclear and constantly changing , then you are not a military man, but an eccentric letter M, a peacetime war person, not a defender, but a parasite.
      3. cdrt
        cdrt 29 December 2013 02: 19
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        in a group air raid, it will erase any anti-aircraft defense of some sort of dictator such as SAAKASHVILI.


        Smallish "take". wink If a group, yes with "support" .... you can easily "pull" any air defense ... including "NATu" wassat
        And you mean some .. "dictator" -soap lol
        The truth is that it is the professionals who should plan such strikes, and not ... those who "threw" the Air Force in August 2008. soldier


        +100500
  13. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 28 December 2013 10: 38
    +3
    and what prevented the party and government from rearming the army since 2000? oil prices were already not small then, and the personnel at the plants were still poorly poor. And on the repair as well.
    "Cadres are everything!" J.V. Stalin
    1. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 28 December 2013 10: 52
      +1
      It’s just that at that time the profit from oil (most of it) was still going west, and now injections go to the state budget thanks to Putin.
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 28 December 2013 12: 59
      +2
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      and what prevented the party and government from rearming the army since the 2000 of the year?

      In the early years of the 2000s, it was necessary to solve a bunch of other pressing problems.
    3. ATATA
      ATATA 28 December 2013 13: 05
      +1
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      "Cadres are everything!" J.V. Stalin

      "There is no waste, there are personnel" I.V. Stalin
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      and what prevented the party and government from rearming the army since the 2000 of the year?

      "Moscow was not built right away" (C)
      Any process has inertia.
    4. Bronis
      Bronis 28 December 2013 13: 16
      +5
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      and what prevented the party and government from rearming the army since the 2000 of the year?

      1. Domestic political factors (from the war in Chechnya to domestic political wars) weren’t before that, there was a redistribution of spheres of influence.
      2. Foreign policy factor - the possibility of strong pressure "from outside" up to a change of power.
      3. Lack of refurbished models of equipment for rearmament (in most cases).
      4. The actual collapse of the state as such.
      5. The growth of GDP and the budget did not occur simultaneously, but gradually. Accordingly, expenses increased gradually, and the priorities were somewhat different.
      Summarizing, for the current elite there were more pressing issues. To what extent this was objectively justified is a separate issue. To blame everything on 90 is stupid. But in order to appreciate everything, another 20 years must pass. was as it was. Now the main thing is that everything planned has been realized.
    5. poquello
      poquello 28 December 2013 13: 19
      +3
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      and what prevented the party and government from rearming the army since 2000? oil prices were already not small then, and the personnel at the plants were still poorly poor. And on the repair as well.
      "Cadres are everything!" J.V. Stalin

      And the economy would be a hell with it, it just looks from the side.
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 29 December 2013 07: 04
        +2
        using the example of Tomsk and the region, I dare to assure you that even now the authorities do not care deeply about the economy. I judge by the number of factories closed under the current president. Moreover, I don’t argue with a certain rise in Polyus, it seems that work appeared there thanks to military orders, but I dare to assure you that cadres there are outdated, compare prof. education is not up to the mark and a good turner, milling machine, etc. find everything more problematic. and such factories as the "rubber band", bearing, pressure gauge (which also carried out some military orders in their time) are safely buried (the "gauge" not long ago, in 2013, the bearing, in my opinion, 2007, not I remember, I won’t lie) as for the "technical innovation zone" and so on. .d., because. Putin's Chubais and RUSNANO do not invest money in such things. Only "stupid" Europeans give our scientists money, receiving technologies in exchange. So, alas, not everything is so cheerful with the Russian economy, although according to your words it has been raised for 14 years. - raised it, but in the end it (again, using the example of Tomsk) turned out to be lower than when the people damned ebne. The president says good words, there are no deeds in fact, and I believe my eyes more than TV and "uryakalka" tyrnetov
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 12 January 2014 00: 59
          0
          in your opinion, the president himself must travel to all regions and show with his finger what to close and what to open? and regional authorities on the ground why ??? take bribes? and it’s not Putin who appointed the head of your region; you yourself have chosen this. probably in the elections you also promised jobs and increased production ... that’s what you demand from him. but as in the saying, the cat left the kittens, Putin is to blame.
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    7. 31231
      31231 28 December 2013 20: 07
      +2
      The same as in 35-40 years. The formation of the state after troubled times.
    8. EvilLion
      EvilLion 28 December 2013 21: 59
      +3
      The technical condition of the plants, for example, in 2006 was to be made by 6 Su-34, only 2 was mastered, after which the whole plant was re-equipped. Actually, in time for 2005-2007, the resources of money reached the opportunity to do something, besides just feeding soldiers. Until 2003, when they paid off their debts and sent everyone, there was still no dough.
  14. VAS 84
    VAS 84 28 December 2013 10: 49
    +3
    I am not an expert, but in my opinion now there is a reinforced rearmament of the Training Yak-130 in order to train young "ORLOV" (after all, a pilot without an airplane, that a driver without a car is a PEDESTRIAN). How to finish this program will free up capacities at the IRKUT plant and it will be possible to increase the pace of construction of already BATTLE (from an economic point of view, this is correct) ALL OWN TIME. hi
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 28 December 2013 22: 01
      +1
      Given the voiced need for 250 machines, the Yak-130 is still LONG to build.
  15. Leshka
    Leshka 28 December 2013 12: 19
    +2
    Very good good
  16. ko88
    ko88 28 December 2013 12: 49
    +2
    Big country, modern army. soldier
  17. Tektor
    Tektor 28 December 2013 12: 53
    +3
    A-yi-yi, I forgot about the T50-5. Add ka greasy 1.
    1. donavi49
      28 December 2013 13: 18
      +2
      T-50-5 experimental board, which belongs to the Sukhoi Design Bureau.
      1. Tektor
        Tektor 28 December 2013 13: 22
        0
        Experienced, then experienced, but at a cost outweigh 50 (! Taking into account the cost of development) SSS. And the main thing that he demonstrates is the possibility of its creation by the forces of the Russian Federation ...
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 29 December 2013 13: 03
          0
          This is an article about waxing. And so yes they created the T-50 no questions!
  18. Stinger
    Stinger 28 December 2013 14: 01
    +1
    There is progress. More recently, the natural decline in aircraft in the army exceeded the receipt of new technology. Keep it up!
  19. vkrav
    vkrav 28 December 2013 17: 17
    0
    Of course, better than nothing ... But for Russia - a drop in the bucket, taking into account the 20 years of collapse.
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 December 2013 17: 27
    +3
    Good news. Now dig inland. Infrastructure for receiving storage equipment is needed. Means and personnel for servicing equipment are needed. New pilots and equipment are needed. In short, the harness and foundation are needed for all this wealth. It would be good if changes from the party to the party were made and improvements in technology. To slow down obsolescence.
  21. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 28 December 2013 17: 53
    +4
    SU 34 release in my city (Novosibirsk) !!! My parents did SU 24 ...
  22. bublic82009
    bublic82009 28 December 2013 18: 14
    0
    and when it produced 5-6000 aircraft per year.
    1. patsantre
      patsantre 28 December 2013 19: 40
      +4
      It was a different country, a different time and a different technological level of aircraft.
  23. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 28 December 2013 19: 48
    +3
    Quote: bublic82009
    and when it produced 5-6000 aircraft per year.

    Now think about what the planes were then and what now. Now, such a quantity is not produced by anyone in the world and no one will be able to service and operate such a quantity. Even the US Army now has approximately 2500 aircraft of all types, and three years ago there were 2900. And the number continues to decline. Even they cannot make up for the natural decline. This is due to the complexity of modern machines and their huge cost.
  24. karavay1982
    karavay1982 28 December 2013 19: 48
    +2
    So you explain to me why such a miscellaneous grader?
    Some strange choice, in conditions of limited resources, to buy both SU-30 cm and SU-30m2. And not only...
    And they correctly write, each type of aircraft is training not only a pilot, but also TECHNICIANS, creating a repair base and a lot of everything.
    It’s somehow illogical, or are we still somewhere around a couple of extra billion covered up ?!
    1. 1c-inform-city
      1c-inform-city 28 December 2013 19: 59
      +3
      As far as I understand, the su-30cm is purchased as combat, and the su-30cm as training because they are scattered in different parts almost piece by piece. And another su 2 should replace the su-30 in the fleet.
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 29 December 2013 11: 14
      +3
      Quote: karavay1982
      So you explain to me why such a miscellaneous grader?

      A difficult question ... On the one hand, the largest military powers in the world (USA, PRC) have 4-5 types of fighters in the Air Force (though they are now striving for unification), on the other hand, a multi-sorter, especially in conditions of supplies of a small number of aircraft, is really harmful .
      Causes ? Home-Air Force needs urgent updating, and the development and production of modernized 4-generation aircraft for all known reasons (restructuring) is extremely delayed. Under these conditions, you have to patch holes with everything you can.
      Another reason is that the enterprises need to be supported, and they have been working on certain topics for a long time, for example, the Irkut-Su-30MKI and its derivatives, but it is quite a difficult task to "retrain" them for one aircraft.
      I hope with the development of PAK FA, and PAK YES we will gradually get away from the assortment.
  25. tomich
    tomich 28 December 2013 20: 39
    +6
    Good. Thanks to the simple workers who work in these factories
    1. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 31 December 2013 13: 22
      0
      At the plant, mainly retirees work. Young people do not linger - the job is terrible, there is no one to pass on the experience ...
  26. samoletil18
    samoletil18 28 December 2013 21: 08
    +3
    All this pleases. And comments on the fleet are not all correct. Even if there is an opportunity to build something aircraft carrier, what will accompany? I would like on my own (I'm not an aviator, I just think so) to add my 5 kopecks to the wishes of the members of the forum. If the MiG-29, -35 will be delivered in decent volumes, which will make it much cheaper than Su, then refueling the Su-24 will be done. This will turn the front-line fighter into an already more dubious weapon. Do not drive the IL-78 on every occasion. And economically, and aviation mobility is growing. And there were achievements on this topic in the USSR.
  27. SkyMaXX
    SkyMaXX 28 December 2013 22: 11
    +1
    Well, such a situation is very pleasing! Enhanced the mood for the New Year!
  28. pvv113
    pvv113 29 December 2013 01: 32
    +8
    ARTICLE RAISES THE MOOD. FINALLY, RUSSIA RETURNS THE STATUS OF THE AIRCRAFT POWER !!!
  29. Evkur
    Evkur 29 December 2013 02: 22
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    First thing first thing airplanes !!! )) good news!
  30. Alexander Kopot
    Alexander Kopot 29 December 2013 12: 31
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    It’s very nice that the army comes to life. I sometimes think of 1941, when our soldiers looked to the sky, looked where our planes are. I believe that it is military production that drags civilian production, where we lost our authority by liberal reforms, just gave markets to Boeing and Airbasam. It's time to raise military and civil aviation from the smallest planes to giants. We must be able to do everything so that you can rely on yourself at any time. Of course, this also applies to helicopters. During the war, we were able to raise aviation, but in peacetime we can’t ? I don’t believe it. Maybe.
  31. Marusy
    Marusy 29 December 2013 12: 52
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    Very very good!
  32. ddd1975
    ddd1975 30 December 2013 06: 04
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    There is something for the first time to fight back ....
  33. BB2117
    BB2117 4 January 2014 08: 46
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    Quote: samoletil18
    Of the freed Su-24 make tankers. This will turn the front-line fighter into an already longer-range weapon. Do not drive the IL-78 on every occasion. And economically, and aviation mobility is growing. And there were achievements on this topic in the USSR.

    The fuel system of the Su-24 has a capacity of 11 liters. Taking into account the possibility of suspension of two additional tanks (+ 860 l), the flight range will not exceed 6000 km. Now for the mass of the car. An empty Su-3000 weighs more than 24 tons. The fuel volume indicated above will be about 22 tons. The maximum take-off weight of the Su-13 is determined to be 24 tons. Now think for yourself whether it is advisable to technically convert the Su-39,7 to tankers if the maximum weight is taken fuel for refueling other aircraft will be approximately equal to the weight of fuel that potentially refueling aircraft can take on board by installing additional fuel tanks on them?
    In addition, almost all Su-24s will gradually be replaced by Su-34s not only as outdated models, but also because of their significant wear.
  34. agent
    agent 8 January 2014 12: 18
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    Good topic !!!