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The army needs "stars." Competitive selection for soldiers

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The army needs "stars." Competitive selection for soldiersIn Israel for more than 30 years, the most intellectually advanced recruits of both sexes are selected for service in the elite division of Talpiot.


TALENT - GREEN LIGHT

This word is not so easy to translate. Undoubtedly, it is taken from the verse of the immortal biblical "Song of Songs" attributed to the legendary king Solomon. "Tel" is translated as "hill", and "piyot" - "mouth". It turns out like a hill on which all the lips turn to prayer. However, in Israeli army slang, "talpiot" means "elite." It is not surprising that the curriculum was called just such a word in the IDF (Israel Defense Forces), which allows, according to its developers, “to use local intellectuals of draft age not only muscles, but also brains”.

The elite division of Talpiyot was created in 1979 by the initiative of Brig. Gen. Stock General Aaron Beit-Halahmi. Moreover, the “star ensemble of army intellectuals” was not formed immediately. As Beit-Halakhmi himself says, back in 1974, he was approached by two professors from Hebrew (Hebrew) University and offered to create a training program that would concentrate the efforts of the most capable of new recruits. It was assumed that these young people will be able to develop the most advanced technologies for the IDF. The preparatory work continued for five long years. Beit-Halakhmi does not hide that he had to overcome a lot of bureaucratic obstacles. Opponents of the formation of "Talpiyot" argued that it does not make sense to involve young people in scientific work in the army structures immediately after school, even if they are very talented, but did not have time to get a fundamental education at universities or colleges. However, Beit Halakhmi and his associates considered it necessary to orient talented young people to research in the military fields at the age of conscription. This idea was actively supported by Lieutenant-General Raphael (Rapoul) Eitan (1978 – 1929), who had taken over the leadership of the IDF General Staff in 2004, by the way, the son of the natives of Russia, whose real name is Orlov. It was he who gave - I ask you to pay attention to the duration - the nine-year program of training army "stars" with the green light.

It is clear that, taking into account the fact that the term of military service in Israel was three years for young men and two years for girls, the selected “stars” were actually engaged in university programs and the completion of service coincided with their higher education. Moreover, many "star" cadets of the program "Talpiot" stepped over the first bachelor's degree and immediately became masters and doctors.

During the 32 years under the Talpiot program, created under the auspices of the Air Force and the Development Administration weapons and the technological industry (UROITP), were trained annually and conducted research from 25 to 30 recruits, both boys and girls. Candidates selected for this program were supposed to demonstrate not only the highest IQ rating, but also strong motivation, as well as undoubted leadership qualities. Most recruits who expect to get into this program are already arriving for exams with "outstanding school recommendations."

According to Beit-Halakhmi, “every year only 1,5% of thousands of army recruits with the same“ outstanding recommendations ”are accepted for the Talpiot program. How can one fail to recall the phrase that Sun Lutan (1860 – 1933), the famous master of the internal school of Chinese martial arts, who became an aphorism: “Finding a good teacher is not easy, finding a good student is even more difficult.”

John Hasten, an expert in the field of elite military training programs, the author of the article “The Talpiot”, published in the Jerusalem Post in Israel, says that “there are no more such programs in the world”.

FROM ARMY TO PROFESSOR

Information about the military developments of those who have completed the Talpiot program is classified. Otherwise it could not be - the army is obliged to keep its secrets. Nevertheless, the quality and significance of these developments can be judged indirectly by the achievements of graduates of these nine-year programs in areas of purely civilian, because not all graduates wished to remain military all their lives. So, Guy Shinar, now a prominent researcher of biological systems, who received his doctorate in physics at the famous Chaim Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, a city considered to be an Israeli Cambridge and Oxford at the same time, is also a pet "Talpiot". Dr. Shinar is a member of the boards of directors of several well-known Israeli companies engaged in the development and production of medical devices used around the world.

In the 2005 year, when Shinar was 28 years old, he had just been demobilized, completing the Talpiot program. In the same year, this young man immediately founded a successful company for the production of devices that monitor the vital functions of the patient's body without the help of electrodes. Such a device, placed under the mattress on which the patient lies, can determine the pulse rate, respiratory parameters and other important indicators of human activity.

Dr. Shinar directly says that participation in the Talpiot program played a significant role in his successful career as a scientist. In a conversation with Josh Hasten, Shinar stressed that it was thanks to this program that he was able to choose for himself and the field of professional activity. "If you intend to work in the field of medical instrumentation, you need to become a specialist in a wide field, learn to excel in various disciplines, including clinical science, medical engineering, physiology, and even the problems of intellectual property rights."

According to Shinar, the first three years and three months of the “young” recruits of “Talpiyot” are spent on completing a bachelor’s degree in physics or mathematics from the Hebrew University program. Next, the soldiers go through the one and a half year military training program not in one, but in several units, including the paratroopers, the Air Force, the navy and intelligence. Upon completion of this stage of training, actual graduates are given the military rank of lieutenant and the remaining service time (out of nine years), they are engaged exclusively in research and, if necessary, in production activities. Dr. Shinar emphasizes that, firstly, the cadets of “Talpiot” were engaged in research activities and not being officers, and secondly, having received officer ranks, these same cadets are promoted to the highest positions in intelligence units, the Air Force and some other parts . So, the same doctor Guy Shinar at the age of 22 years began to serve in UROITP.

Shinar's fellow student, information about which is completely classified, at the same age performed very important works in the field of precision engineering. However, according to Shinar, the majority of graduates of "Talpiot" conduct research in the field of biotechnology, medical and other types of instrument-making.

Dr. Ofer Goldberg, who completed the Talpiot program a year later, is currently holding the position of vice president of Clal Biotechnology (General Technologies), one of the largest international companies in the 10 top list of the most successful companies of this type. . This company specializes in pharmaceuticals and invests in new medical technologies. Like Shinar, Goldberg believes that his career could take place only due to the fact that he got on the program "Talpiot".

“When I professionally study the scientific validity and feasibility of modern technologies for medicine,” says Ofer Goldberg, “I use the analytical methods and skills I learned while taking the Talpiot program.” Indeed, this program is focused on basic systems of interdisciplinary importance. Therefore, Goldberg continues his thought with these words: “I checked the innovations in the army in accordance with military affairs, and now that area of ​​technology that I directly deal with.”

Dr. Goldberg uses the term “Talpiot factor” when he emphasizes the dependence of achievements or the career success of a graduate who has completed this challenging nine-year course. He gives a curious example. When he, as a vice-president of the company, was offered to invest a lot of money in one company that studies the problems of cardiology, he accepted this offer not least because the director of this company is a graduate of Talpiot.

Ofer Goldberg is proud that his company is based on patriotic principles. He says: "In addition to practical reasons, the fact that the company operates in Israel is of particular importance to us."

“WHO AMAZED, THAT WON”

This famous maxim, belonging to the great Russian commander Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov, sounds particularly relevant today. It is clear that in the confrontation with the enemy priority is given to the human factor. But you can’t defeat a serious enemy with your bare hands or with antediluvian weapons. In our time of total computerization, it is young people who have barely stepped over adolescence to take the technological innovations in the best way. Therefore, it is clear that they should be involved in this kind of development. More precisely not all, but the most talented of them, giving special hopes.

It is interesting that in the XX century the first attempt to create elite intellectual army units capable of doing research was made in the early 20s by the commander of the land units of the Reichswehr (German armed forces in 1919-1935, quantitatively and qualitatively limited by the terms of the 1919 Versailles Peace Treaty ) General Hans von Sect (1866–1936). He initiated the creation of research laboratories for talented military personnel who proved themselves in scientific work. He was supported by some military, politicians and scientists. However, the growing chauvinist German circles didn’t like it when it turned out that Zekt’s idea was supported by Jews of origin - Admiral Fritz Haber, director of the Institute of Physical Chemistry, Nobel laureate, German Foreign Minister Walter Rathenau and Felix Teilhaber, medical officer, one of the pioneers aviation medicine.

Today, the command of the armed forces of a number of countries sets the task of creating army scientific units. However, in armies formed exclusively on a contract basis, it is impossible to attract specially gifted “in relation to the sciences” 18-summer recruits for these purposes. And the reasons are obvious. First, because there are practically no such and never will be. After all, if in the country there is no compulsory recruitment, then the “especially gifted” who have completed school education will prefer receiving higher education to the military service. True, it is quite possible to attract contract servicemen to army research units. But, as they say, it will be "a completely different calico." Indeed, in one army of the world contract soldiers are not represented by boys. This is the second. So the severity of scientific perception in any case will be different. Thirdly, it is highly doubtful that young people with very high IQ will be recruited into the army for the soldiers' service. It does not happen, after all, the usual muscular guys who do not claim Nobel Prize prefer to strap a soldier's shoulder strap.

As for "Talpiyot", then such programs are quite possible in the armies, formed by conscription. For example, in the Russian army. It is not surprising that an article with a pretentious title appeared recently in a Moscow newspaper: “Soldiers-scientists will appear in the army”. The subtitle of this article is even more impressive - “The armed forces will be raised from conscripts of Nobel laureates.” And after all, in principle, this can not be excluded.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu gave a direct order to create "scientific companies" in the Russian armed forces, which, he said, would contribute to "the formation of a new generation of people moving military science."
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  1. 31231
    31231 7 December 2013 07: 44 New
    +7
    Equal to Israel ?!
    How did Talpiot differ? Stuxnet Iranians launched on closed networks ?!
    Citizens of Israel can you tell me what this structure is famous for ?! Does it launch rockets on Arab phones?
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 7 December 2013 07: 57 New
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      Yes! Equalization! Not against Israel, but not its policy towards its own people - there it is the cornerstone of everything. Jew, Jewry and everything connected with it.
      Let there be twists and turns and infringements of others, and in general a lot of all this, but the main idea for the state, for its unity, formation in a single force is very suitable.
      1. Homo
        Homo 7 December 2013 08: 19 New
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        Everything in your words would be correct if Israel decided everything on its own and did everything for the sake of its people. Otherwise, he acts on someone else's orders and most of his actions are not for the good of his people. What kind of concern for our people can we talk about if the actions of the Israeli leadership lead to constant tension, shelling, terrorist attacks, the construction of fences (higher and longer every year), constant "bickering" with neighbors and a desire to take revenge on someone (Syria, Iran, Jordan , Palestine) !!!
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 7 December 2013 13: 03 New
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          Quote: Homo
          the actions of the Israeli leadership lead to constant tension, shelling, terrorist attacks, the construction of fences (higher and longer every year), constant "bickering" with neighbors and the desire to take revenge on someone (Syria, Iran, Jordan, Palestine) !!!


          As everyone turned upside down deftly turned lol This leads to constant tension:



          or this one:



          or this one:



          and the actions of the leadership of Israel are mainly:



          or here:



          and you keep thinking that the Islamists are white and fluffy, and all the Arabs are your friends, which is especially the "Arab friendship" in Afghanistan and Chechnya ... oh, I forgot, it was against you, this friendship, here's the truth, is already on the doorstep:

          1. Homo
            Homo 9 December 2013 14: 04 New
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            Quote: And Us Rat
            ... and you keep thinking that the Islamists are white and fluffy, and all Arabs are your friends, about which the "Arab friendship" in Afghanistan and Chechnya especially speaks ... oh I forgot, it was against you, this friendship, here's the truth, already on the doorstep ...

            I did not say a word about the Islamists, I spoke about interstate relations. And according to you, Israel has a nuclear program - this is good, and if Iran develops its nuclear program - this is bad (it is necessary to bomb), in Israel the pro-American government is good, but in Syria it is not - this is bad (it is necessary to bomb), Israel was created on foreign lands (they were torn off piece by piece from other states) and the problems that arose then have not been resolved until now - this is good, and Palestine, Jordan, the Gaza Strip are territorially infringed and are trying to defend their rights - this is bad (you need to bomb)! That's the whole policy of the "wonderful" state of Israel !!!
        2. Siberian German
          Siberian German 8 December 2013 05: 24 New
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          In what way it means the fight against terrorists is bad - but do not forget that hezbollah is an ally only in Syria, and so it is a terrorist organization
          1. Homo
            Homo 9 December 2013 14: 06 New
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            If this is the answer to my post, then where do I write about Hezbollah and terrorism?
    2. Siberian German
      Siberian German 8 December 2013 05: 20 New
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      Minus you - this article does not give any reasons for jerking - but just a lot more I will write many reasons for reflection - including about our current education system - it would be more accurate to say without an education system
      1. Homo
        Homo 9 December 2013 14: 08 New
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        If this is for me, then what I wrote does not refer to the article but to the post mirag2 (his praise of Israel), read carefully!
  2. mirag2
    mirag2 7 December 2013 08: 02 New
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    And why did the stuxnet "launch" at the Iranians? Because they thought that Iran was dangerous to them, and that's all, you have at least a stake on your head. And so with regard to everything. If they thought that the physicist who told about the Jewish nuclear bomb is an enemy - means the enemy, and what the world says, they don't care.
    And we have an idiotic habit of looking back at what they say in the west. Thanks to our public figures and the media.
    For example, they decided that the Khodorkovsky enemy means an enemy, and no one needs to prove anything. They decided that Pussy-wright enemies means enemies, and they all went to the dung with their convictions.
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 7 December 2013 17: 24 New
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      Quote: mirag2
      .Thanks to our community members and the media.

      And who are our most ardent "social activists" and the media? All the same Izi, Shmuli, Zyamy, .... you will get bogged down.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 7 December 2013 17: 28 New
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        Quote: cherkas.oe
        Quote: mirag2
        .Thanks to our community members and the media.

        And who are our most ardent "social activists" and the media? All the same Izi, Shmuli, Zyamy, .... you will get bogged down.

        And let me list you. Only manly. You take 3 -4 of the main TV channels and 5-6 of the largest Newspapers and list how many Jews are there among the editors and the main correspondents. After all, you were taught that words should be answered?
  3. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 7 December 2013 08: 03 New
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    It would be better if everyone would go about their business.
    A military man of his own, a scientist of his own.
    Following an article in Israel, there is a shortage in the quantity of something, since there they are engaged in such affairs and are ready to shove anyone into the army (to entice a carrot is also an option).
    I knew one guy who served in the IDF, so he said that native Jews, Jews who emigrated from other countries, including Russia, are considered second-class people there and the children of emigrants go to serve in the most stressful places, they are instructed to perform tasks associated with increased risk for life (in short, they use it as cannon fodder or a boy for beating) in general, there you can’t drive people from the families of the indigenous population to any place.
    1. Dezzed
      Dezzed 7 December 2013 09: 27 New
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      Your friend is not much mistaken, or just individually perceived what was happening.

      Personally, I served in the infantry and in the reconnaissance of the tank military (the same infantry only in chocolate).
      and so there were Russians and not Russians and all sorts. I will say this, serving in combat units means there will be a risk. And from Russia you Emen or Japan does not shake anyone.
      1. Professor
        Professor 7 December 2013 10: 16 New
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        Quote: DezzeD
        It would be better if everyone would go about their business.
        A military man of his own, a scientist of his own.

        ... for example, the creator of the Merkava tank was Brigadier General Tankman Tal. Well, what does he understand in tanks and what tankers need? Now, if he was a scientist, he would create a normal tank ...

        Quote: DezzeD
        Following an article in Israel, there is a shortage in the quantity of something, since there they are engaged in such affairs and are ready to shove anyone into the army (to entice a carrot is also an option).

        These "anyone" are going through such a competition that the most prestigious universities in the world nervously smoke on the sidelines. Another example, a native of the IDA 8200 division, a billionaire (he made money from scratch), the creator of Check Point and the inventor of the firewall (Firewall) Gil Shved. http://www.checkpoint.com/corporate/executive/gil-shwed.html

        Quote: wanderer_032
        I knew one guy who served in the IDF, so he said that native Jews, Jews who emigrated from other countries, including Russia, are considered second-class people there and the children of emigrants go to serve in the most stressful places, they are instructed to perform tasks associated with increased risk for life (in short, they use it as cannon fodder or a boy for beating) in general, there you can’t drive people from the families of the indigenous population to any place.

        A heartbreaking story. However, it does not in any way agree with the competition for combat units among the "indigenous population" of Israel and the lists of IDF losses.
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 7 December 2013 10: 31 New
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          You have a very big opinion about yourself, dear.
          And about his army, too.
          Cognition does not decorate anyone.
          As far as I know, General Tal was a leading consultant in the development of the MERKAVA tank, and not a general designer. And also he was a unique one of his kind, such people on earth can be counted on the fingers.
          1. Professor
            Professor 7 December 2013 10: 35 New
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            Quote: wanderer_032
            You have a very big opinion about yourself, dear.

            Does this relate to the topic under discussion?

            Quote: wanderer_032
            And about his army, too.
            Cognition does not decorate anyone.

            The war that Tzahal will lose will be the last for Israel. From this stove everyone is dancing.

            Quote: wanderer_032
            As far as I know, General Tal was a leading consultant in the development of the MERKAVA tank, and not a general designer. And also he was a unique one of his kind, such people on earth can be counted on the fingers.

            You do not know correctly.
        2. zvereok
          zvereok 7 December 2013 18: 02 New
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          and the inventor of the firewall (Firewall) Gil Swede.


          Say at least that it was the first "Kosher Firewall". And then such delirium cuts the hearing.
          1. Professor
            Professor 7 December 2013 18: 30 New
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            Quote: zvereok
            Say at least that it was the first "Kosher Firewall". And then such delirium cuts the hearing.

            Well Duc enlighten where the Firewall came from in general, and then we will discuss the kosher nature of this "item". wink

            PS Well, let's talk about nonsense.
            1. zvereok
              zvereok 7 December 2013 19: 41 New
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              Well Duc enlighten where the Firewall came from in general, and then we will discuss the kosher nature of this "item".


              Packet filtering in routers still figs knows from what time is present. Well, maybe a friend coined the term and patented it, I willingly believe it.
              1. Professor
                Professor 7 December 2013 19: 55 New
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                Quote: zvereok
                Packet filtering in routers still figs knows from what time is present. Well, maybe a friend coined the term and patented it, I willingly believe it.


                Patented the fact that "even FIG knows from what time has been present"? And the patent office patented it? Well, who is talking nonsense here? fool
                1. zvereok
                  zvereok 7 December 2013 19: 58 New
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                  Figs know, this is from the 80's, in routers there is the ability to filter packets. Or is this also nonsense? negative
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 7 December 2013 20: 04 New
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                    Quote: zvereok
                    Figs know, this is from the 80's, in routers there is the ability to filter packets. Or is this also nonsense?

                    The fact is that a citizen demobilized from the army opened his own company, which is now known throughout the world and has become a billionaire. And he received his knowledge in the army. This is what this is about.

                    PS
                    I guess that this firewall was embodied by him during his service in the army.
                    1. zvereok
                      zvereok 7 December 2013 20: 06 New
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                      I do not argue with his commercial success, but the fact that he invented the Firewall. It is not true.
                    2. Shur
                      Shur 7 December 2013 22: 56 New
                      +1
                      First "commercial" firewall. http://www.forbes.ru/tehnologii/internet-i-svyaz/239592-kak-odin-iz-sozdatelei-p
                      ervogo-fairvola-upustil-shans-stat-millia
                      I read it became interesting.
                      There were also such people as employees of Digital Equipment Corporation Bill Cheswick and Stephen Bellowin (possibly incorrectly in Russian), who, as I understand it, dealt with the topic back in 1988. And so, of course, well done, they earned money with their minds.
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    3. rolik
      rolik 7 December 2013 13: 49 New
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      Quote: wanderer_032
      Jews who emigrated from other countries, including from Russia, are considered second-class people there, and the children of emigrants go to serve in the most stressful places, they are instructed to carry out tasks associated with an increased risk to life (in short, they are used as cannon fodder

      Hasidim have no time to fight, they are busy studying the Torah and learning to interpret it correctly. Well, they are still engaged in usury and trade; there is sorely not enough time for war. That is why Jews who are not members of the Hasidic community are fighting.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 7 December 2013 14: 27 New
        +8
        Penguins are a minority, while tolerance protects them, but the wave of popular anger has already begun to rise from the depths, they are being cut off benefits, their exemption from service has been canceled, they will not understand hints to go to work, serve and build - there is always Turbopizd .. l and the Kick accelerator. wassat







        1. rolik
          rolik 7 December 2013 19: 09 New
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          Quote: And Us Rat
          Penguin minority,

          Well, you see, and in Israel, progress is being made by leaps and bounds)))))) That's right, who does not work and does not serve - he does not eat.
          Because (..........deleted by moderator) (sorry to talk) - do not toss the bags))))))
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      2. Pimply
        Pimply 8 December 2013 11: 35 New
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        Quote: rolik
        Hasidim have no time to fight, they are busy studying the Torah and learning to interpret it correctly. Well, they are still engaged in usury and trade; there is sorely not enough time for war. That is why Jews who are not members of the Hasidic community are fighting.

        You put it mildly, you have a poor idea of ​​what the Hasidic movement is and what the Hasidim are really doing.
        1. rolik
          rolik 8 December 2013 21: 28 New
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          Quote: Pimply
          To put it mildly, you have a poor idea of ​​what the Hasidic movement is,
          Well, of course, I'm not a Hasid. And information about them, to put it mildly, I get from those sources from which it can be obtained by every inquisitive person. But, if you really need it, believe me, I will dig as deep as I need. And you, judging by your words, ideally know the history of Hasidim (I even spelled this word correctly, because it does not have a female form, but did you know about this ????) and its roots and postulates. In this case, I conclude that you belong to the Hasidim.
          1. rolik
            rolik 8 December 2013 21: 32 New
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            Quote: rolik
            Well, of course, I'm not a Hasid.

            But I saw a drawing of the Hasidic founder. I bring it personally for you.
            Rebbe Israel Ben Eliezer (1698-1760), I ask everyone to pay attention. Well, a little more info.
            Many male Hasidim do not work, but devote all their time to studying the Torah. A woman has long worked in a traditional Jewish family. Many communities in Israel and the United States are engaged in political lobbying to obtain public funds for the livelihood of their members. At the same time, Hasidic communities have created a wide network of public charity and mutual assistance for their members to help solve the problems of everyday life - interest-free loans, assistance in obtaining housing, free canteens, food distribution for those in need, assistance to dowries for poor brides, legal protection and much more. Among the Hasidim, a stratum of Parnassos is noticeable - wealthy people who support the community. Traditional Hasidic occupations are real estate business and construction contracts, diamond business, trade, mediation, financial market. Satmar Hasidim control most of the US kosher meat market, worth about $ 4 billion a year, and control a network of public institutions, loan offices, and real estate projects in New York alone worth about half a billion US dollars. The Chabad Hasidim created a unique network to spread their version of Judaism. Their network numbers about 3 thousand rabbis - "Rebbe's messengers" around the world. Its turnover reaches 1 billion US dollars per year.
            Well, a little peculiar humor, a joke about Hasidim:
            The Hasidim Jew once asks:
            - Tell me, how do you know that your rabbi is talking with God?
            - Well, how? The rabbi himself tells us about this.
            “And how do you know that this is true?”
            - How from where? Will the Lord, blessed be His name, begin to speak with the deceiver?
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 9 December 2013 18: 59 New
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              You are in Hasidim trying to record the entire ultra-orthodox movement of Judaism.
              1. rolik
                rolik 9 December 2013 23: 16 New
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                Quote: Pimply
                You are in Hasidim trying to record the entire ultra-orthodox movement of Judaism.

                Note - this, your words))))
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 10 December 2013 12: 25 New
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                  Quote: rolik
                  Note - this, your words))))

                  The fact that you are not understanding the topic, trying to judge something? Yes mine
  4. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 7 December 2013 10: 04 New
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    Israel ... yeshkin cat! ..
    In Israel for more than 30 years, the most intellectually advanced recruits of both sexes are selected for service in the elite division of Talpiot.
    Well, Russia, too, does not bast with cabbage soup ... heh heh .. (we pulled all the "elite" ones ..)) bully
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 7 December 2013 10: 57 New
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      Quote: MIKHAN

      Well, Russia, too, does not bast with cabbage soup ... heh heh .. (we pulled all the "elite" ones ..)) bully

      it will not work with Israel because our armies will never meet on the battlefield lol
      1. Farvil
        Farvil 8 December 2013 00: 43 New
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        Jews have bitten us all our lives out of three and rotted us and are still doing this successfully.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 8 December 2013 00: 48 New
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          Quote: Farvil
          Jews have bitten us all our lives out of three and rotted us and are still doing this successfully.

          More specific?
        2. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 8 December 2013 01: 52 New
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          Quote: Farvil
          Jews have bitten us all our lives out of three and rotted us and are still doing this successfully.


  5. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 7 December 2013 10: 17 New
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    A person engaged exclusively in improving intelligence can realize no more than one-fiftieth of his thinking potential, such a paradox. Proper and truly powerful development is possible only for a person who possesses the basic skills of working with weapons, at least one military specialty at least at the familiarization level, and at least one civilian specialty that requires serious hand-working skills.
    Is Russia a supplier of minds? Yes it was. Until the mid-seventies, all the conditions I listed were fulfilled, at least enormous efforts were made in this direction. Then the USSR rotted ...
  6. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 7 December 2013 10: 18 New
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    I want to add that the military and scientists in many countries of the world work together in such a way (maybe not in this regard, but this does not play a role in principle, the main result).
    So why should people who have better brains work in military operations when the laboratories are more helpful (if it’s not about testing any products and where their presence is necessary or in cases of data collection (a survey, requests, wishes of the customer for whom and work is underway)).
    In terms of security, I think the pros in this part will be better able to complete the task than a person far from this (in this case, a rookie student of some university), chasing people through training grounds, forcing them to practice military science in practice, and thereby distracting them from that which they should deal with without wasting precious time of their lives, is not the best idea (our training program in military departments at universities is a clear confirmation of this).
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 7 December 2013 18: 50 New
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      Then, without having been in battle, the brains of these people will awaken their whole life in a state of semi-readiness. Is the risk of dying? Duck can slip in the bathroom, with a temple over the sink, well and a lid. And the chance to be a man (and therefore a warrior) is forever lost. To shame is shameful and self-destructive ...
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 7 December 2013 19: 26 New
        +2
        By this I wanted to say that everyone should make a feasible contribution for the good of the country where it will bring more benefits.
        And if necessary, it’s possible to place an unconscious part of the population under arms (the authorities have many ways to do this), but will there be any sense in this, a big question.
        And everyone can take the basic course of military training, and for this it’s not necessary to go through some tricky contests, etc.
  7. makarov
    makarov 7 December 2013 10: 19 New
    +5
    What can I say (?), A reasonable and appropriate approach to ........
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 7 December 2013 10: 32 New
    -2
    Quote: DezzeD
    Your friend is not much mistaken, or just individually perceived what was happening.

    Personally, I served in the infantry and in the reconnaissance of the tank military (the same infantry only in chocolate).
    and so there were Russians and not Russians and all sorts. I will say this, serving in combat units means there will be a risk. And from Russia you Emen or Japan does not shake anyone.

    You're lying! ... You have the most specialists from Russia ... You already teach your women to shoot there ..! Your Israel keeps at the expense of our Russian Jews .. (they are trained by us ...))
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 7 December 2013 11: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      You're lying! ... You have the most specialists from Russia ... You already teach your women to shoot there ..! Your Israel keeps at the expense of our Russian Jews .. (they are trained by us ...))

      Unfortunately, specialists from Russia began to occupy more or less noticeable positions, and not at the assembly, very, very recently.
    2. Dezzed
      Dezzed 7 December 2013 12: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      You're lying!

      Meehan! could you be more precise? or am I driving a blizzard in everything?

      Quote: MIKHAN
      You are there already teaching your women to shoot ..!

      What do you mean by that?

      Quote: MIKHAN
      Your Israel only at the expense of our Russian Jews holds on


      YOUR Jews are not. Jews are Jewish!
      And when it is necessary they are "Jews from the Zhidomasson lodges" and when it is necessary they are "our Jews"
      --------------------------------------
      And in general it was about the army and you threw me appelsin.
    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 December 2013 13: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      ... You already there teach your women to shoot ..!


      Our women are able to shoot, better than many guys painting borders or building general's dachas in the service lol
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 7 December 2013 13: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Our women are able to shoot

        Well, no one at all has any doubt about this approach to business
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 7 December 2013 13: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: BARKAS
          with this approach to business


          So the approach does not appear from scratch ...

      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 7 December 2013 19: 37 New
        +1
        Only those guys who really didn’t know how to use a machine gun were against a couple of thousand companies, practically without ammunition, without water and eating on their ears in mud and tattered clothes, and this is in cold mountain conditions.
        Without artillery and air support (due to the risk of fire on their own) and held positions for several days.
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 8 December 2013 00: 44 New
          +3
          Quote: wanderer_032
          Only those guys who really didn’t know how to use a machine gun were against a couple of thousand companies, practically without ammunition, without water and eating on their ears in mud and tattered clothes, and this is in cold mountain conditions.
          Without artillery and air support (due to the risk of fire on their own) and held positions for several days.


          Not days, but weeks, and it was thanks to those guys who were exhausted after the ghetto and the death camps, with three rulers and Molotov cocktails, who defended against Arab tanks, aircraft and artillery in 1947-8 and Israel exists today.
          1. wanderer_032
            wanderer_032 8 December 2013 08: 33 New
            0
            Actually, I cited Russian guys as an example.
            Which fought in Afghanistan and the Caucasus.
            The IDF did not fight there, so there is nothing to cling to my words, give your examples.
            Not in the first half of the 20th century (if Israel touches it in the last line), but more freshly closer to our time (2nd half of the 90s and beyond).
            And preferably in unfavorable conditions, not in countries with a warm climate, but where there is humidity, dirt and frost for a snack.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 8 December 2013 11: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: wanderer_032
              And preferably in unfavorable conditions, not in countries with a warm climate, but where there is humidity, dirt and frost for a snack.

              You have little idea of ​​the climate in the Middle East.
              1. wanderer_032
                wanderer_032 8 December 2013 11: 38 New
                -1
                I can imagine that the climate is hot and dry with sharp changes in temperature from daylight to dark, but it doesn’t make any comparisons to ours.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 8 December 2013 12: 20 New
                  +1
                  Quote: wanderer_032
                  I can imagine that the climate is hot and dry with sharp changes in temperature from daylight to dark, but it doesn’t make any comparisons to ours.

                  Judging by how you describe, you can’t imagine. Who told you it's hot and dry? Who told you about the lack of dirt, rain or sudden frost?

                  Five months a year in Israel, for example, it rains heavily, and the temperature in a number of regions, especially in the mountainous regions, drops to minus at night. Apparently, you also do not imagine how the presence of several seas, and at the same time, deserts, affects the climate. And yet - how much it can differ at a distance of literally a dozen kilometers.
  9. report4
    report4 7 December 2013 10: 38 New
    -1
    And what's the catch? Well, the army feeds the guys who, according to the army bureaucrats, are "the smartest and most beautiful." But what role does the army play in education? And, in general, it's idiocy to spend some money from one department (Ministry of Defense) on the duties of another (Ministry of Education). Eggs are only transferred from pocket to pocket.
    Although the other side is understandable - the IDF, under the guise of "education", rakes up young, brainwashed lumpers into slavery for the state, with the help of various subscriptions and a "secrecy regime." In short, it stupidly blocks the "brain drain" in the United States when it smells of fried (for the cowardice of the Jews and their unexpected craving for travel when they are threatened by something is known worldwide).
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 December 2013 13: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: report4
      for the cowardice of the Jews ...


      Tell about "Jewish cowardice" to these two with the video, otherwise they probably don't know yet that they are cowardly, they throw themselves at terrorists in hand-to-hand combat, probably defective wassat lol

      1. Alex45
        Alex45 7 December 2013 16: 00 New
        +2
        Could you describe what is happening on the uploaded video? So it’s not very clear.
        1. atalef
          atalef 7 December 2013 17: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: Alex45
          Could you describe what is happening on the uploaded video? So it’s not very clear.

          the militants (circled in red circles) are hiding in the bushes, the TsAALA fighters are circled in blue, approaching the bushes (not knowing that the militants are hiding there) When approaching, the first militant opens fire. IDF fighters - rush forward and make fire contact destroying the first fighter until they know that there is another fighter who throws a grenade but misses, officers (a battalion com and deputy) rush towards him, at this time the fighter throws another grenade then the battalion’s com, grabs the militant, picks it up and acting like a shield, covers a grenade, an explosion, the militant is killed, from the IDF forces only the battalion’s com was slightly injured ----- Here is such a translation
      2. rolik
        rolik 9 December 2013 00: 22 New
        0
        Quote: And Us Rat
        probably defective

        And it’s true that when an Israeli soldier is captured, he must answer all the enemy’s questions (name the part number, armament, number of personnel, etc.) to save his life. It’s, like, even in the memos military personnel written.
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 9 December 2013 01: 42 New
          +1
          No, there is no such instruction. What yes is - this is information security measures when someone is captured, they come from the understanding that anyone can be split. And a soldier in captivity can officially be informed of his own - name, rank, serial number, medical data.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 9 December 2013 19: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: rolik
          And it’s true that when an Israeli soldier is captured, he must answer all the enemy’s questions (name the part number, armament, number of personnel, etc.) to save his life. It’s, like, even in the memos military personnel written.

          The memo says what he should call according to the Geneva Convention: name, personal number, part number.
    2. faraon
      faraon 9 December 2013 05: 55 New
      -1
      But the joke is this, as soon as Russia moves from the category of the European raw materials market to a highly technological state, the Russian army will have scientific projects aimed at training and the formation of a new officer corps corresponding to the spirit of the times and technical progress. As the analyst, the future military the conflict will be unleashed in cyber space. And here, just on the front line will be needed not just elite soldiers of special units (which is not excluded) but also those who will knock on the vertical clave. he will see this course of events and is already beginning to prepare future soldiers and officers for this war.
    3. faraon
      faraon 9 December 2013 06: 13 New
      +1
      And, in general, the idiocy of some money of one department (Ministry of Defense), spend on the duties of another (Ministry of Education). Only eggs are transferred from pocket to pocket.

      As far back as 1912, the German Chancellor noted that school teachers were winning the war. This is to say that in Russia we must closely engage in the education of the teenage generation, raise it to a level higher than under the USSR, and then there will be results.
      As for the assistance of Israeli defense mines, it proceeds from the principle that the army needs a skilled specialist and not meat (brainwashed paws), then as for cowardice, you went too far, six wars won, I think this is saying something.
  10. aud13
    aud13 7 December 2013 12: 37 New
    +2
    It seems that we also created scientific companies.
    It would be nice if it were not units in which the children of blatniks simply formally served their time, then to tell everyone that they also served.
    And so an interesting experience why not try to repeat it? if it works out well, it doesn’t work out - it means trying something else.
  11. enot555
    enot555 7 December 2013 12: 57 New
    -1
    Well, an article about Jews and WHAT ????????? I DO SIDE AS AND MOST OF THE RESIDENTS OF RUSSIA (EXACTLY RESIDENTS - TO NOT DIVIDE BY NATIONALITIES) ON THEM, I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING FROM THEM, AND I DO NOT GO TO SEE IT))))))) WHAT IS THE ADVERTISEMENT OF TOTAL JEWISH? WHERE NEVER LOOK, AROUND ONE MANY-DIFFERENT, ALL CAPTURED ... SO THAN TO ENTRY IN THIS ARTICLE BY THE AUTHOR ??????? AND HOW MUCH FOR YOU PR AND PROPAGANDA DROWN IT ????
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 7 December 2013 13: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: enot555
      Well, an article about the Jews and WHAT?

      The article is about one of the options for recruiting and developing the scientific potential of the IDF, and not about the Jews. And nothing.
      PS A personal question. Young man, you spoke so emotionally that it just became interesting to know, but have you ever seen a living Jew?
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 7 December 2013 13: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Have you ever seen a living Jew?


        Of course I saw !!! On TV!!! wassat
      2. enot555
        enot555 7 December 2013 22: 00 New
        +3
        A personal answer, NOT a young man: I often see Jews, their sixes too ... a vile sight ...
        it’s bad that propaganda often skips everywhere and military review is no exception ... bought too)))))) ... but ... how is it with the HAZARS in 964 according to some calendar))) do not remind ???
        the article is still about nothing ...
        1. Dezzed
          Dezzed 7 December 2013 23: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: enot555
          military review is no exception ... bought too))))))


          Maybe you, enot555, "... bought too))))))"?
          1. enot555
            enot555 8 December 2013 16: 05 New
            -1
            for DezzeD judging by yourself, you can immediately see who is who)))
            not much aside from the topic ...
            alas)))))))) to your regret and my joy, you cannot buy all of them ... you can buy your star-mattress friends, GAY-ropean girlfriends ... or who they are now)), the fucking minister of defense , some puppet president-prime minister, flood all state structures with zaslanets, in order to destroy defenses, seize territory and destroy the population to the maximum: programs such as available booze or all drugs for children, etc., etc. You can continue indefinitely ... but one thing was not taken into account by the incredible stellar "friends" (early probable opponents) people see all these antics, and even if there are not many of them, it is they who will disperse all this gadyushnik.
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 9 December 2013 21: 46 New
              0
              Gadyushnik to disperse this thing is right! Which overclocking scenario do you prefer? Libyan? Iraqi? Afghan? Syrian? Or is it worth repeating on the model of 1917? What would the remnants of the intellectual elite dump into emigration, and rot in the GULAG another 25 million people? Russia is a wounded country that is only (and not yet confidently) taking the path of self-healing, and any shock may be fatal for it, after which it will remain the role of Mongolia for the next 500 years. So anyone who calls for some kind of "revolutionary overclocking "- A TRAITOR AND ENEMY OF RUSSIA, or simply does not shine with intelligence.
              1. enot555
                enot555 10 December 2013 12: 05 New
                -1
                for the "mega intellectual" "Us warrior" ----
                - NO CALLS TO REVOLUTIONARY NO ACCELERATION, PROVOCATIONS WILL NOT BE RECEIVED))))))))))))))
                - about the scenario of dispersal, here I like the story with the Ledorub in the head (ub-dka) of Trotsky and the destruction of his Zionist gang.
                - about 1917 - read biography and book Vladimir Karpov - "GENERALISSIMUS" THERE, the events of the revolution are described VERY EXACTLY AND CORRECTly, it is immediately clear what the representatives of the "divine" people were doing, you will get acquainted and find out the answers to many questions))
                -- about the gulag - everything is simple --Do not be ridiculous, what 25 million, do not be naive and do not "spot" the brain of people.
                - Russia is not wounded, its corrupt bureaucrats, oligarchs and other dregs are constantly robbing ... but this is not for long .....
                -- your dreams about turning Russia into Mongolia and will remain a dream--- FORGET!!!!
                ..... Our Slavic people are kind .... we live in friendship with many in the world, but remember -
                " FRIEND WITH SUCH FRIENDS, KEEP YES WITH ANOTHER HAND !!! "
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 10 December 2013 15: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: enot555
                  here I like the story with the ICE HORSE IN THE HEAD (ubl-dka) of Trotsky


                  Is it something I don’t see an ice ax in the head of Smerdyukov’s mud, or doesn’t it smell like my own?

                  read the biography and the book of Vladimir Karpov - "GENERALISSIMUS" THERE IS VERY EXACTLY AND CORRECT ...


                  The coast of fantasy of the author is stated.

                  ..... Our Slavic people


                  Do not treat me about the Slavic people, my great-grandfather was a Volga Cossack, (I am a half-breed). Slavic people have always been famous for wisdom and generosity.
                  And in 1917, you are so petty-minded as you are the Slavic people and are rotten. Good in you as a poisonous spider - and you have already clearly demonstrated this to the whole forum. And the bureaucrats are pulling Russia away because you and your drinking companions have a thin gut to get off the couch and change something. And do not hide behind the flags of the airborne forces - do not disgrace the banner, you are not a warrior, but a hysteric.

                  your dreams of turning Russia into Mongolia will remain a dream


                  My dreams are to see RUSSIA as a great country of GOOD and JUSTICE, and for this it needs to be cleansed of any fascist dishonesty like you. Because your soul is evil and black - and there will be no good for the country from you.
                  1. enot555
                    enot555 10 December 2013 16: 47 New
                    -1
                    [b] [[b] b] don’t add boiling water [/ b] baby [/ b] [/ b] !!! and do not cry!
                    Carlson will be back smile ))))))))))))))))))))
                    I don’t understand who are you? a Jew or a fascist with ancient plagues? or just a dunce who doesn’t know what he is saying? read your previous comment, or you already changed your shoes and forgot
                    what are you saying?
                    Russia is a wounded country that is only (and still not confidently) taking the path of self-healing, and any shock can prove fatal for it, after which it will remain the role of the level of Mongolia for the next 500 years.
                    about the alleged flight of the author’s imagination)))))))))))))
                    so you can say about anything, but fact is a fact under Stalin, the country lived better than anyone, and he did the most ...
                    about 1917, of course, people like me were rotten) _))), Shnipersons, Mendelsons, etc.
                    admit not a variant of the facts that 95% of Trotsky's entourage were Jews, and the remaining 5% of their six. [b] OF COURSE "EURGEI" HERE ABSOLUTELY NOT HERE !!! ))))))))))))))))))) [/ b]
                    [b] [b] about the goodness of the country - Do you want to say that Russians expect good from the Jews ???? [/ b] [/ b] - are you smoking a kid?
                    Well, tell me how there [b] [b] on the torus have a positive attitude towards non-Jews? [/ b] [/ b] but in more detail, what should non-Jews do with wives?
                    Nuka explain about the half-breed, you have a mother who is of nationality?
                    and yet, about the black soul ... ridiculed)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))

                    ))))))))))))
                    )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


                    )))))))))))))))
                    1. And Us Rat
                      And Us Rat 10 December 2013 20: 40 New
                      +1
                      My mother is Russian, and I pronounce the letter P better than you.

                      As for the wives of non-Jews - you, as an expert on ZOG, know better, we don’t bother with such nonsense, I’m an agnostic, for me all people are the same (except for shell-shocked Natsik and martyrs), you probably confused the Koran - it’s about the infidels there was crap.

                      At least you don’t get drunk at the keyboard, or type more carefully, it’s impossible to make out half, one hundred pounds is not Russian. You print through ..

                      And about the black soul, you laugh in vain, you have it rotten.
                      1. enot555
                        enot555 11 December 2013 00: 01 New
                        -2
                        I say, not SS-KYP , AND DO NOT TURN OFF THEME! Are you an agnostic or a diagnostician, no matter)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) - explain by the TOPA what is there about non-Jews, that is, Goyev - for example, Rabbi Moymonides: -
                        - kill the best of Goyim,
                        - Talmud divides all of humanity into two parts, Jews and non-Jewish goys
                        - it is forbidden to feel regret for the goy, when he dies, then he should not save him
                        - adultery with a non-Jewish wife is allowed

                        ? and this is in your faith, from the part that was translated into other languages, and what is written in those parts that are not translated? Well, and in whom they rot rotten ???
                        about good to the country - Do you want to say that the Russians expect good from the Jews ???? - Are you smoking a kid ?????
                        immensely happy for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      2. And Us Rat
                        And Us Rat 11 December 2013 00: 54 New
                        +2
                        Quote: enot555
                        explain by TORA ...


                        Not at the right place, I didn’t teach torus - I’m not interested in religion, all the more so with some marginal trends of 1000 of the summer ago, which are generally of dubious authenticity. You are far from today's reality as a monkey from an engineering diploma.

                        and it is in your faith


                        Are you a fool? Or don't you understand Russian well? I am an agnostic, for the stupid - "an atheist who admits that something may be there." What the fuck is "my faith"? Write in Chinese? fool
                      3. And Us Rat
                        And Us Rat 12 December 2013 00: 42 New
                        +1
                        - it is forbidden to feel regret for the goy, when he dies, then he should not save him ...


                        lol
                        Here are these - in the video, of your beloved Moymudei, or how was he taught poorly, can you go - will you enlighten them? The poor people don’t know what they are supposed to correspond to your inflamed worldview, and to divide someone there wassat

  • individual
    individual 7 December 2013 13: 43 New
    +1
    "... And then they built us up and began to divide: smart to smart, and me to taba! "
  • Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson 7 December 2013 18: 53 New
    +3
    Laziness was to read your comments gentlemen. But I note that the article is very informative. True, I want to note [this is about the remark about Shoigu] that in the conditions in which Russia is located, it is stupid to equip troops in this way. We’re not Izrailovka, not those territories, almost the specificity of the war ... Yes, and the Idea is completely different.
    1. Dezzed
      Dezzed 7 December 2013 21: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Alex_Popovson
      almost the specificity of the war ...


      the specificity of a war is always the same - the destruction of the enemy / the enemy’s desire to fight. no other is given.
    2. Muadipus
      Muadipus 7 December 2013 23: 31 New
      +1
      And what is wrong with our territories? Russia has a winning position in everything in the territory, in population, in resources, and there are many gifted goals - one misfortune that crosses out everything - They steal from us :(
  • azov
    azov 7 December 2013 20: 29 New
    +3
    So that's where the "scientific mouth" legs grow from.
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 7 December 2013 23: 25 New
    +3
    Well? Well done Jews, promote gifted children, and as I understand it, it's free for them. So the light of the nation is brought up. Such an experience must be adopted.
  • DesToeR
    DesToeR 8 December 2013 00: 07 New
    +7
    Obviously, the primary purpose of the program is to train the elite. Scientific and applied character are secondary. Well done Jews all the same - they pour "fresh" blood into their elite, do not allow stagnation to form. Indirectly raising "chicks" confirms the success and career growth of trainees - money for business development does not appear out of thin air. Obviously, the government "in life" helps and guides. When the Russians begin to introduce people brought up on this principle into their elite, they will conquer the world. The program is a classic of the genre. Here there are natural sciences and military training and systems analysis, i.e. it is not just another nerd that comes to life, but a fighter inside and out, who either wins or dies. Well done Jews.
  • wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 8 December 2013 08: 57 New
    +2
    Yes, we have to survive, only during the Yeltsin rule, a monument to the entire Russian people should be erected.
    And during the Putin-Medvedevsky medal.
    So this is the passed stage for us.
    1. Dezzed
      Dezzed 8 December 2013 15: 25 New
      +1
      +!

      Now God is helping the Russian people find a worthy leader.
    2. faraon
      faraon 9 December 2013 06: 17 New
      -1
      All that is so, but it is better to do without monuments and medals, but to live normally, without any shocks.
  • Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 9 December 2013 05: 39 New
    0
    The idea of ​​creating science companies is a good one. And what are the prospects? Let's create a company. Helped to learn to think and create. And then what?
    1. faraon
      faraon 9 December 2013 06: 05 New
      +1
      And then these are ready-made personnel who will push the country towards new achievements, carry out strategic leadership, and make important decisions for the whole country.
      1. Leonid Har
        Leonid Har 10 December 2013 07: 07 New
        0
        This is in my opinion from that opera: I really can’t imagine, but everything will be fine)) There should be clear steps for further training and the use of already prepared military-scientific employees. For example, a military scientific enterprise was created to manufacture high-tech weapons and to protect against them (individual combat robots, pulse-magnetic weapons, laser devices, devices for protecting against infra- and ultrasonic weapons, biomechanical exoskeletons, developing promising types of communications, developing UAVs and devices their interception) and so on. That is, funding should already be provided now and priority areas for the development of graduates of this unit should be identified. Otherwise, the whole idea will remain at the level of the idea.
        1. faraon
          faraon 11 December 2013 12: 15 New
          0
          This is in my opinion from that opera:

          Leonid, I already wrote that after a country moves from a raw materials appendage of Europe to a country producing and selling uncompetitively capable high-tech products, it will be able to afford to launch an expanded training program for highly qualified specialists from the army. At this time, the foundation is being laid for training of specialists of this profile. For twenty years of perestroika, they have stolen the entire Russian education system, devalued the entire higher education system, now it needs to be restored, and olodets Shoigu that though he understood and began vostonavlivat lost, laying the foundation for the future.
          As for Israel, the military budget allows for an expanded training program for military specialists for the army, in principle, this program has existed for a long time, specialists from future recruits were trained in boarding schools, technicians were trained, now they have been expanded and scientific companies will be created from more advanced technicians without interruption military service to improve their education, that is, they will be given the opportunity to receive higher education at the expense of the Ministry of Defense which they will be able to apply in the future rmii.
  • faraon
    faraon 9 December 2013 05: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: wanderer_032
    Only those guys who really didn’t know how to use a machine gun were against a couple of thousand companies, practically without ammunition, without water and eating on their ears in mud and tattered clothes, and this is in cold mountain conditions.
    Without artillery and air support (due to the risk of fire on their own) and held positions for several days.


    Shame on those commanders who were not worried about their soldiers and their needs, taking them on a combat mission with such material support. This is obviously a failure of the combat mission.
  • faraon
    faraon 9 December 2013 06: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Muadipus
    And what is wrong with our territories? Russia has a winning position in everything in the territory, in population, in resources, and there are many gifted goals - one misfortune that crosses out everything - They steal from us :(


    Yes, and there are problems with the roads, which makes the products more expensive.
  • Forest
    Forest 9 December 2013 15: 53 New
    -1
    Well, if the Israeli army needs stars, take the "star" of Martagelman with his garbage art)