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What does the combat experience of engineering troops teach?

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The rich combat experience gained by the engineering troops in Afghanistan still remains of great importance today. About what technical and organizational measures carried out engineering units during this conflict, says the candidate of military sciences, professor retired colonel Peter Antonov.


The tasks of the units and subunits of the engineering troops had to under difficult conditions of mountain-desert terrain. The enemy launched a real mine war on the paths of movement of troops.

Road structures were destroyed or prepared for destruction. Thus, in the direction of the offensive reinforced Chaugani – Banu (50 km) attack in 1981, the enemy destroyed 7 bridges, arranged 9 stone debris, one of which was 700 meters long and brought down the roadway with a length of 200 meters, and 17 crowns 5XXX ditches. In the direction of advance Doshi-Bamyan (180 km) motorized regiment had to overcome 36 mined blockages fill 25 anti ditches and 58 funnels restore road section on a ledge length 350 m, restore or equip detours 18 bridges of various lengths, to neutralize and remove 38 min land mines.

What does the combat experience of engineering troops teach?

Performing combat missions on the exploration of the route to the Panjshir Gorge


In the northern lowland part of Afghanistan - near the village of Imansakhib, the enemy, having destroyed the irrigation irrigation system and the dam, created extensive flood zones and roads in the 7 square. km As a result, the reinforced ISB could not overcome them.

Beginning with 1982, the proportion of mine blast barriers (MH) in the total volume of barriers has increased. A land mine war imposed by the enemy with the active support of military firms of several foreign countries dictated the need to revise the organization of combat training for engineering troops and engineering training for service arms. In October, the Marshal of the Engineering Forces S.Aganov spoke about this at the training and methodological gathering with the officers and commanders of the units.

In a short time, the training center of the engineering troops of the 40 Army was created at 45 oisp, field engineering camps during divisions and the ISP of separate brigades and regiments. In each division and a separate regiment for carrying out complex tactical and combat training with combat shooting, special routes were prepared. They were equipped with training points with a complex mine situation. Here fighting episodes were played up, tactical techniques were practiced.

The issues of accumulation, generalization and introduction into the practice of troops of combat experience in engineering support were reviewed. The widespread use of new-mined foreign-made mines with plastic shells required the most serious attention to be given to training units of sappers and breeders.


Combat group of sappers


In the companies and battalions of the engineering troops, there were logs of the results of actions, as well as reporting maps with the engineering situation in division divisions and 45 oisp, which were obligatory reporting combat documents. On their basis, combat actions were analyzed, the most characteristic moments of the battle were noted, new in the mining tactics of the rebels and promptly developed methods of deactivating the cost centers, which were then drawn up in the form of express information and communicated to the troops.

To increase the level of training of the management personnel of divisions, brigades and individual regiments, 45 – 3-day training on the organization of engineering support for combat operations was held twice a year at the army training center at 4 oisp.

Engineering preparation of non-standard sappers was carried out at the 7 – 12-day training camp. Classes were conducted by experienced sappers. Along with the training of personnel for combat operations, the timely and reliable intelligence information largely contributed to the successful advancement of the advancing troops. Engineering intelligence established not only the place and type of obstacles, destruction, but also their character and parameters.

Planned surveys from airplanes made it possible to determine the places of destruction, vulnerable parts of the terrain, produce destructions and establish cost centers. More detailed reconnaissance from helicopters made it possible to determine the nature of the destruction. Intelligence data made it possible to plan combat operations, determine the composition of the main forces and reinforcements, and build the order of battle of the attacking units and subunits.


Water Intelligence Engineering


As combat experience shows, the units and units operating in the first echelon performed two tasks - fire destruction and destruction of the enemy, as well as mine clearance, barrage and restoration of driving routes. Therefore, the first-tier MSB supported by artillery, tanks, air defense and aviation, reinforced detachment of barrage and traffic, usually at an armored base. Such a detachment usually included: a tank platoon with 1–2 BTUs and 1–2 KMT-5M, IMR, MTU, an engineer-sapper platoon with 2–3 crews of mine detectors, 500 kg of explosives and 20–30 pcs. Short circuit. Transportation by helicopters to the installation site of bridge trusses, of individual bridge structures, usually from the Transition kit, was also envisaged. The actions of such a detachment covered 1-2 msv.

The experience of hostilities in Afghanistan has shown that the detachment of detachment and provision of movement is able to ensure the speed of the onset of the MSS 2 – 2,5 km / h in the mountainous terrain

The engineering units in Afghanistan themselves also installed a large number of cost centers. In the interests of direct combat, cost centers were used a little (about 12% of the total volume of all barriers), mainly for ambush actions. The bulk of the mines were put in order to self-defense, to cover the border.


Dog breeders before going on a mission to mine exploration


Mine-blast barriers were permanent and temporary. In the first case, the minefields were covered with fire by the guard units, their combat status was monitored, if necessary, the cost centers were increased, and when the combat effectiveness was lost, new ones were destroyed and put out. Especially effective were the so-called active cost centers. Since 1984, they have been used on a massive scale with the cover of caravan routes.

In the mountains on caravan routes, a device of mine "bags" was used with different layouts of mines and with different terms of bringing them into a combat position. This allowed to keep the enemy in suspense and forced him to look for new routes.

High temperatures, dry and hot air with a high degree of dustiness exhaustingly influenced personnel and caused an acute need for water. Water was valued as ammunition, food and fuel and lubricants.

The task of extracting, treating water and ensuring the uninterrupted supply of troops to it had to be solved in the conditions of an unfavorable sanitary and epidemiological situation.

The use of tank trucks and other tanks allowed to increase the supply in the battalion to 90 – 100% of the daily water demand.

Water was delivered to remote areas by helicopters. Sometimes it was dropped by parachute in the RFN-200, but not always successfully, some of them were broken. Then they began to use pieces of fire hoses, with the ends clamped with special devices (capacity 10 – 12 l), which withstand strikes against the ground.


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  1. 31231
    31231 7 December 2013 08: 40
    10
    All the same, good Germans are dogs. They would have health like mongrels.
    1. ICT
      ICT 7 December 2013 10: 34
      +3
      Quote: 31231
      They would have health like mongrels.

      I didn’t understand honestly, but what is wrong with their health

      I repeat
      Quote: 31231
      german dogs
      the most universal among service breeds of a dog
      1. family tree
        family tree 7 December 2013 13: 58
        +3
        Quote: TIT
        I didn’t understand honestly, but what is wrong with their health

        Like all thoroughbreds, the mongrel survived as a result of the natural, the breed is artificially removed, the immune system, no comparison, like a rat, in front of the Dolly sheep.
        1. ICT
          ICT 7 December 2013 16: 28
          +1
          Quote: perepilka
          Like all thoroughbreds, the mongrel survived as a result of the natural, the breed is artificially removed, the immune system, no comparison, like a rat, in front of the Dolly sheep.


          empty statement. the life expectancy at home for shepherds and large mongles is the same for about 15 years + \ - of course, with a normal ratio.
          dvonyag only reasoning is usually better, but this is for the circus

          Quote: perepilka
          if you immediately take it away and do not clog your nose, the mongrel will smell no worse

          it’s almost difficult for the mongrels to select, according to their working qualities
          puppies

          Quote: perepilka
          Erdely, this is better.

          also a good service breed, but less versatile
          1. family tree
            family tree 7 December 2013 16: 40
            +2
            Quote: TIT
            empty statement. the life expectancy at home for shepherds and large mongles is the same for about 15 years + \ - of course, with a normal ratio.

            Forgot to add, with proper supervision and veterinary support.
            The dog lover himself, there were both Germans and Eastern Europeans, is now an airedale, the character is changing towards old age request
            it’s almost difficult for the mongrels to select, according to their working qualities
            puppies

            It does not depend on the breed, these are not people, there heredity, and not relationships, work. The one who is smarter, the purebred, the one who fits the breed standard survives in the mongrels. AND?
            Quote: TIT
            also a good service breed, but less versatile

            Specialized, always better than universal. Border guards have less than herds of shepherds (German women and VEO), but they are sharpened precisely on the nose.
            1. ICT
              ICT 7 December 2013 17: 42
              0
              Quote: perepilka
              Forgot to add, with proper supervision and veterinary support.

              implied in this phrase
              Quote: perepilka
              under normal conditions.

              Quote: perepilka
              but they are sharpened precisely on the scent.
              this is once clear, this is selection by working qualities, they keep looking for lazy, poorly trained and poorly trained in the guard service, the most vicious cops in the convoy. Here I mean what universal
          2. DimychDV
            DimychDV 7 December 2013 21: 07
            +2
            with an oversight, they often suffer from mastitis, and in general the plague often breaks these dogs.
        2. bask
          bask 7 December 2013 20: 31
          +1
          Quote: TIT
          the most universal among service breeds of a dog

          I agree that wagons, a wide profile.
          Quote: perepilka
          breed artificially

          And with this statement, For.
          But here are HYBRIDS, dogs and JACKELS.
          Service breed of dogs - Sulimov's dog (SHALAYKA). It was brought out by the main breeder of the aeroflot security service Klim Sulimov for use in airport security measures. Sulimov’s dog is a mixture of deer huskies and subtropical jackals. The scent and such hybrids are 50 times thinner than other dogs. They can work -50, + 50 degrees С .
          Usually trained on search explosives and drugs.
    2. family tree
      family tree 7 December 2013 13: 54
      +2
      Quote: 31231
      All the same, good Germans are dogs.

      Erdely, this is better. And the health of mongrels is only that of mongrels, although if you immediately take it away and do not clog your nose, the mongrel will not smell worse, but stupid ones do not survive among them, unlike ...
  2. ilf
    ilf 7 December 2013 09: 31
    +3

    Nothing changed
    1. bask
      bask 7 December 2013 22: 08
      0
      Quote: ilf
      Nothing changed

      Sappers just need their own mine-protected armored vehicles, with all the necessary equipment. Able to withstand a blast of 10-15 kg in t / e, and even now it is not.
  3. George
    George 7 December 2013 10: 01
    +3
    Honestly did not understand
    What does the combat experience of engineering troops teach?

    The article does not disclose the topic of the question.
    1. family tree
      family tree 7 December 2013 14: 20
      +7
      Quote: GEORGE
      The article does not disclose the topic of the question.

      1997 article. The engineers then came face to face with the plastic hulls, although they had heard before. Induction mine detectors became about nothing, and those reacting to the density difference did not justify themselves, in general there was a probe and a dog and a 2-2,5 km / h column speed. In addition, bodyless home-made land mines with remote detonation, 5-10 kg each, when the bottom at the battery, flew out through the roof, i.e. look under your feet and forward, where is something wrong, and the dogs smelled such a mass at times, only now, if the "spirit" does not sleep, then the dog, if smart, ends, and if stupid, that is, on a leash, then together with the instructor ... It was then, now is a different topic, to intercept the transportation, for this, the best Airedale terriers, both for drugs and BB.
      ps then the proverb was born that the fastest is a sapper, no one will overtake him. request
      1. bask
        bask 7 December 2013 14: 34
        +1
        Quote: perepilka

        Article of 1997. Engineering and engineering, then came up against plastic cases, although they had heard before. Induction mine detectors became useless, and responding to the difference in density did not justify themselves, in general, there was a probe and a dog and 2-2,5 km / h column speed.


        Minesweeper, probe, dog will be indispensable for a long time, both in local conflicts and in global wars.
        But the application of new technologies is a decrease,HUMAN LOSS.
        1. family tree
          family tree 7 December 2013 15: 03
          +2
          Quote: bask
          But the application of new technologies is a decrease in HUMAN LOSS.

          Old T-55 with a knife trawl, follow the track. Engineering reconnaissance on the flanks, otherwise you will get into the "bag". This machine, along the way, in front of the induction, radar, for the difference in density. There was such a machine, DIM, a road induction mine detector, based on the 69th, later on the 469th, it braked sharply when it found a mine, only when it got up, a sapper climbs out of it and starts poking with a probe, and when it finds it, the whole column is organized, damn, (this is a nightmare, who knows) backs up, and then, this mine is removed. Then, the leader in the column, begins to drive everyone forward, because, as from the schedule, or night. Then, a saying is born:
          "As soon as DIM hit a mine, there are no mines, there is no DIM.
          ps sappers are either risky or old, old and risky at the same time, does not happen.
          1. bask
            bask 7 December 2013 15: 52
            0
            Quote: perepilka
            Old T-55 with a knife trawl, go on a rut

            Where in Chechnya and Dagestan, you can use a knife trawl.
            Quote: perepilka
            On the 9th, later than the 469th, it braked abruptly when it found a mine, only when it stood up

            I need a high-performance com ... for processing infsf ... then there will be no bragging.
            Quote: perepilka
            "As soon as DIM hit a mine, there are no mines, there is no DIM.

            Since 2007, Americans have been using the MROAP, Buffallo, Iraq sapper version with a hydraulic manipulator and 2 sapper robots in Iraq. So, sappers have to go out very rarely.


            Amer’s HMDS ANTI-MOM SYSTEM (Husky Mine Detection Systems) was developed by NIITEK specialists based on the Husky 4/4 engineering machine. It is intended for mine clearance and the search for improvised explosive devices with a non-metallic body. Uses GEORADAR.
            1. family tree
              family tree 7 December 2013 16: 14
              +1
              Quote: bask
              I need a high-performance com ... for processing infsf ... then there will be no bragging.

              Once again, when a mine was detected, the brake and clutch pedals fell sharply to the policeman
              I need a high-performance com ... for processing infsf ... then there will be no bragging.
              They, like, awesomely reduce the braking distance with their artificial intelligence.
              Amer’s HMDS ANTI-MOM SYSTEM (Husky Mine Detection Systems) was developed by NIITEK specialists based on the Husky 4/4 engineering machine.
              At this forum there was a jet engine machine, which simply swept everything in front of it.
              Where in Chechnya and Dagestan, you can use a knife trawl.

              On the road, there is not entirely a rock and you can’t dig a mine into the rock, you can put it in a puddle, it will not explode, it will move it away with a trawl.
              1. bask
                bask 7 December 2013 16: 33
                0
                Quote: perepilka
                Once again, when a mine was detected, the brake and clutch pedals fell sharply to the policeman

                If the mine clearing vehicle with a ground penetrating radar is 50-60 meters ahead of the convoy, and if the convoy’s speed is in dangerous sections of 40-kl, you won’t have to press the brakes all the way. The quicker the com .. issues the information .. from the radar, the more time it takes to make a decision.
                Quote: perepilka
                At this forum there was a jet engine machine, which simply swept everything in front of it.

                But on, she needs to be set on fire around, and many IEDs will not react to it. And the bearded will notice the convoy for kilometers.
                Quote: perepilka

                On the road, there is not entirely a rock and you can’t dig a mine into the rock, you can put it in a puddle, it will not explode, it will move it away with a trawl.

                Believe me, a former resident of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, there are only a few such places in Chechnya, and where asphalt is laid. Columns rarely traveled off-road.

                They came up with an excellent method for detecting IED-GEORADAR, to a depth of 100 meters.
                So we need to improve this direction.
                1. family tree
                  family tree 7 December 2013 16: 51
                  +1
                  Quote: bask
                  If the mine clearing vehicle with a ground penetrating radar is 50-60 meters ahead of the convoy, and if the convoy’s speed is in dangerous sections of 40-kl, you won’t have to press the brakes all the way. The quicker the com .. issues the information .. from the radar, the more time it takes to make a decision.

                  The minesweeper will defuse the mine. With all the consequences. Dot.
                  But on, she needs to be set on fire around, and many IEDs will not react to it. And the bearded will notice the convoy for kilometers.

                  I don’t give a damn if the local do not care what is mined, then what difference will it be blown up, or burned. Bearded about the column, and so it is known, either from local, for tens of kilometers, or from non-local, on the eve. According to these data, landmines with ambushes also suit.
                  They came up with an excellent method for detecting IED-GEORADAR, to a depth of 100 meters.
                  "Fresh legend, but hard to believe" right up to a hundred meters, radar, through the ground, some kind of fairy tale.
                  1. bask
                    bask 7 December 2013 17: 43
                    0
                    Quote: perepilka
                    The minesweeper will defuse the mine. With all the consequences. Dot.

                    family tree, in the 80s in Afghanistan, in the 90s in Chechnya, it was SAPPER and exactly ...
                    Now 2013, not in 100%, but in more than 50%, this is already a sapper robot. Without any wiping ....
                  2. bask
                    bask 7 December 2013 20: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: perepilka
                    "Fresh legend, but hard to believe" right up to a hundred meters, radar, through the ground, some kind of fairy tale.

                    That's about it. Georodar is FANTASY.
                    family treeHere are some links from google.
                    http://www.mosexp.ru/georadar.html
                    http://www.geo-radar.ru/services.php и т..далее.
        2. ICT
          ICT 7 December 2013 15: 42
          0
          America answered.
        3. biznaw
          biznaw 7 December 2013 16: 00
          +4
          Hmm ... three cars a year ... Here, one comrade was surprised at the timing that Stalin set for the production of upgraded PPSh and new PPS - 2 thousand for two weeks. Comrade mumbled, they say voluntarists, the timing is not real. Yes, everything is fine, the deadlines are real, and the factory made spare machines and spare shops for them, on time.
          But with the current production, sheer bewilderment, well, it would be anti-submarine ships or a large missile boat, then three a year seems to be normal. But three modernized ZIL-131 with microwaves tied to them with a wire is already too much, my understanding is that a lot of money is given for this product, probably more expensive than a bridge across an average river like Neva-Moscow, you can not rush and not think about money. Carefully examining the details of installation and execution of structures, the feeling that the product was made by "craftsmen" in a collective farm garage, however, it probably sounds like an undeserved insult to collective farm welders and mechanics, unlike the stars of the modern military-industrial complex, they have no money.
        4. APASUS
          APASUS 8 December 2013 18: 51
          0
          "Foliage" was looking for mines by a radar and neutralizing them with radiation
          The last phrase unbalanced!
          This is as much as three installations a year, oh you can get it! Will we get the security of passing military colonies in 200 years ?!
  4. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 7 December 2013 11: 12
    0
    The task of extracting, treating water and ensuring the uninterrupted supply of troops to it had to be solved in the conditions of an unfavorable sanitary and epidemiological situation.
    This is an experience in combat ...
    Our tanks and in the deserts (will be like the T-34 to Berlin ..) I hope they remember ...? Now they are already rushing to the Atlantic .. We will not share with the United States as in the 45th!
    1. family tree
      family tree 7 December 2013 14: 33
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Our tanks and in the deserts (will be like the T-34 to Berlin ..) I hope they remember ...? Now they are already rushing to the Atlantic .. We will not share with the United States as in the 45th!

      Of course, I also drank, and I can rush to the Atlantic, according to a visa-free regime, only, be kind, cover up from the air so that not a single hiccup, eh?
  5. bask
    bask 7 December 2013 13: 24
    +4
    What does the combat experience of engineering troops teach?

    The experience of engineering troops, won Chechnya 1.2. Afghan, teaches, one hundred must be applied, sapper robots.
    Mine-protected armored vehicles МРАП, both for the transport of soldiers and cargo MTO, and for mine clearance.
    And the tag is the use of heavy engineering equipment during the storming of cities.

    IDF LEADS A WAR BY NEW METHODS
    "" A new tactic of actions in the city was used - the militants mined all city communications, hoping that the IDF would advance along the existing streets. However, the IDF engineering troops are cutting new roads right through residential areas. The tank and infantry columns of the IDF go along them without hindrance. Thus, the militants are deprived of their important advantage.
    Infantry units go into battle in groups, which include D-9 armored bulldozers, tanks and heavy armored personnel carriers. Ahead is a pair of armored bulldozers D-9 - these are huge machines as high as a two-story house, the height of a multi-ton shield is 2 meters. "" "Http://www.duel.ru/200938/?18_4_2
    1. bask
      bask 7 December 2013 15: 12
      0
      Russian development in 2005, "Oko" georadar. Tikhomirov Research and Development Institute.
      Weight is about 10 kilograms. The "Eye" allows you to look underground, starting from the surface and to a depth of thirty meters. It can scan walls, the bottom hidden by the water column, containers with cargo and so on.
      The principle of the GPR operation - the transmitting antenna directs the electromagnetic pulse into the medium under study (about the fraction of a nanosecond). A beam, bumping into a medium other than the main medium, is reflected and enters the receiving antenna, converted into a digital signal. It is recorded on a computer connected to the device, after which the processed material is received on the screen.
      GEORADAR OKO 2. NGOs, Omega
      The radar allows you to detect metallic and non-metallic objects, voids and inhomogeneities, in sizes:
      5 cm at depths up to 2 met, a georadar with a frequency of 250-600 MHz is used.
      10-20 cm at the depths of 3-5 met, the 150-250 MHz antenna unit is used.
      1-2 m at depths of 20-60 mt, a georadar of the series ,, vine, ”with a frequency of 50-150 MHz is suitable.
      1. bask
        bask 7 December 2013 15: 24
        0
        To enhance security during the Winter Olympic Games in Sochi.
        A railway radar option will be applied.
        Georadar OKO 2 is installed in front of the diesel / electric locomotive in a special box.
        1. family tree
          family tree 7 December 2013 15: 59
          +7
          Saw the loot again. The railway embankment is entirely a density difference. Count the braking distance of the same electric locomotive. Either it goes 0,5 km / h, the sapper is faster, or just bumps into it, then why this gadget. An electric locomotive will neutralize it, and so on, and will go into repair. I’m silent about the crew in a rag.
          1. ICT
            ICT 7 December 2013 16: 33
            +2
            Quote: perepilka
            Saw the loot again. The railway embankment is entirely a density difference. Count the braking distance of the same electric locomotive. Either he goes 0,5 km / h, the sapper is faster, or he just bumps into it, then why this

            hollow poles, counterweights, on the contact network of mulion options
            1. family tree
              family tree 7 December 2013 16: 56
              +3
              Quote: TIT
              hollow poles, counterweights, on the contact network of mulion options

              Yes, some pipes under the cable and cable in them, plus broken and broken cables, plus buried crutches and lining, not to mention diapers, tampaks and empty bottles. laughing
            2. bask
              bask 7 December 2013 17: 12
              0
              Quote: TIT
              hollow poles, counterweights, on the contact network of mulion options

              In the railway embankment, voids according to GOST, should be 0000.
              1. ICT
                ICT 7 December 2013 17: 23
                +1
                Quote: bask
                hollow pillars

                the pillars (pylons of the contact network) I mean that if some zasrants want to derail the composition, then no georadar will save
                1. bask
                  bask 7 December 2013 21: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: TIT
                  the pillars (pylons of the contact network) I mean that if some zasrants want to derail the composition, then no georadar will save

                  TIT. Well, and what, that the pillars are hollow?
                  GPR alone will not save, of course, this is not a panacea. It will only help to find IEDs.
                  Acts of terrorism prevent a complex of measures, mainly of an operational nature.
              2. family tree
                family tree 7 December 2013 18: 05
                +1
                Quote: bask
                In the railway embankment, voids according to GOST, should be 0000.

                It's about the difference in densities.
                Believe me, there are enough voids, now according to the technical specifications, all cables go through pipes in the pipes.
                1. bask
                  bask 7 December 2013 23: 21
                  +2
                  Quote: perepilka

                  It's about the difference in densities.
                  Believe me, there are enough voids, now according to the technical specifications, all cables go through pipes in the pipes.

                  Under the railway track, there are not any pipes, cables. Only packed bulk soil and crushed stone, in several layers, sleepers, rails.
                  All communications run parallel to the railway. Suitable only on turnouts.

                  But even emptiness, com .. and software, GPR analyzes and issues an info ...
                  What is the problem with voids. Naturally, the soil is not homogeneous, at a depth of 2 meters or more there are small voids. If there were large railway tracks in this section, they simply didn’t. They laid a detour route. Always when building a new branch, geophysical exploration of the area.

                  The rest is up to the radar operator and the software.
          2. bask
            bask 7 December 2013 17: 00
            0
            Quote: perepilka
            Count the braking distance of the same electric locomotive. Either it goes 0,5 km / h, the sapper is faster, or just bumps into it, then why this gadget

            I figured if this is ET, then 150 meters, at a speed of about 100 k / h.
            But this is a gadget, will be attached to a tracked self-propelled machine called flaw detector,, which moves at a speed of 10-15 cells per hour, and follows the damage of the rails and joints with the help of the U-sound. A radar will be installed on it.
            As a rule, detour is carried out before passing trains.

            Electric flaw detection railcar is used at the current track maintenance and is designed to diagnose and detect defects in rails of the P50, R65, P75 type ///; ADE series railcars provide flaw detection of rails with surface quality in accordance with GOST 18576-85 in the range of travel speeds:
            • from 5 to 60 km / h with the operation of ultrasonic testing equipment;
            • from 5 to 80 km / h when the magnetic control equipment is operating. "" "Http://www.tvema.ru/ru/productList_2211.html
            1. family tree
              family tree 7 December 2013 18: 20
              +2
              Quote: bask
              But this is gadget, it will be attached to a self-propelled railway vehicle called a flaw detector,

              There will not be, these cars are few, and no one will risk them, more expensive. If they cling, then to AGD, AGV, DGKU, or old AGMU, by the way, the latter, the best option, they are the easiest and cheapest.
              Only they will not, they are at their speed, all movement is slowed down, more voids and density differences in the embankment of the sea, especially at the stations, excuse me, I gave 18 years to the piece of iron.
              1. bask
                bask 7 December 2013 21: 13
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                Quote: perepilka
                He gave 18 years to a piece of iron.

                Sorry, but at what enterprise, if it's not a secret. (PM, SCH, ICP, DC, inverter, low frequency, etc.)
                Then why don’t you know about such a simple concept as WINDOW.
                All repair and inspection work is carried out precisely at this time.
                Quote: perepilka

                If they will cling, then on AGD, AGV, DGKU, or old AGMu

                If you want to save (but didn’t spare money for the Olympics).
                The cheapest option is a cool car. Flaw detectors are produced on the basis of four-axle passenger cars moved by a locomotive with ultrasonic and magnetic seekers. In this equipment, georadars can also be included.
                Quote: perepilka
                voids and density differences in the embankment of the sea,

                If you have already delivered, then the technology has been worked out, and the operators (com ..) will already be able to delineate the voids from the VCA.
        2. family tree
          family tree 7 December 2013 16: 29
          +1
          In the picture, by the way, railcar or Motris, the speed up to 1km / h can be increased.
          1. biznaw
            biznaw 7 December 2013 17: 10
            0
            Yeah, and a pulsed electromagnetic radiator, which would burn all the microcircuits and wiring mines and at the same time all the cables and electronics of the railway.
  6. biznaw
    biznaw 7 December 2013 17: 18
    +2
    Listen, and this product "Foliage" is not an hour a super-powerful radio beacon indicating the route of movement of columns of "Topol" the radiation from them is not less than from the radar? Happiness fell upon you, under Yeltsin, under Yeltsin, beacons were hung on railway trains, so that it would be easier for the Americans to carry out service, and now the places of combat duty of Topol are designated by microwave and electric mag. will be designated by radiation? Insanity of generals?
  7. George
    George 7 December 2013 19: 11
    +5
    Comments were more informative than the article. Thanks to all. good
  8. andr327
    andr327 10 December 2013 21: 04
    +1
    Alas, we don’t really like combat experience, he passes it mainly against the command.
    From my recollections: I had a very bad position for protection (Pioneer). Several officers were sent to the division after Afghanistan. They forced them to engage in all kinds of army ,,,, d: footcloths, tags, etc. Using his connections, I asked him for a position as a reviewer. His visit was a light for us in the dark kingdom; I have never seen such occupations in defense and defense. These three hours of ego staying in position gave more than all the multivolume methodological instructions and orders of the upper headquarters.
    But these combat guys could not stand our correct commanders: either they quit, or they fired for bad. But many thanks to them and for Afghanistan, for remaining after him people. Alas, peacetime Zhukovs are not needed; they simply survive.
    Yes, the loss of Chechnya is a raft of squandering the combat experience of Afghanistan and previous generations.
  9. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 5 January 2014 02: 51
    +3
    I looked about "Bogomolov", I remembered that our city explosion-proofs had something similar. The name was red. It blew up, as far as I remember, on a "Land Rover" with 400g. TE. Then they asked for money for a new one for a very long time. I don’t know if we got it or not. But I still remember the video recordings of the sappers and the redhead (I watched 2009). A hell of a job.