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For the first time in the Russian Army there will be arctic arrows

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For the Russian Army for the first time in its stories prepare professional arctic shooters. Currently, the only group of cadets in Russia is undergoing a course in Blagoveshchensk on the basis of the Far Eastern Higher School of Management Labor Administration - the Far Eastern Higher Command School. It is assumed that for actions in the Arctic, the fighters of the Arctic brigades formed in Russia will use special military equipment and weapons that can withstand even the most severe frosts. Given the fact that the length of the Russian Arctic coast is 22,6 thousand kilometers, which is more than 2 times the length of the Arctic coast of all other countries of the world, the need to deploy such units becomes clear.


Frost and strong wind - almost like in the Arctic. Today the weather conditions in the Russian Amur region are in many ways similar to the polar ones. It is no coincidence that the Far Eastern Higher Military Command School in September 2013 of the year accepted new cadets, who began training in the specialty “The use of motorized rifle divisions in arctic conditions”. Currently, such a profession exists in the only Russian university. Since in the conditions of Priamurye there is simply no polar night, up to 30% of field training future Arctic motorized riflemen spend at night.

For the first time in the Russian Army there will be arctic arrows

According to the head of DVVKU, Vladimir Gryzlov, the specialty “Use of motorized rifle units in arctic conditions” was opened for the first time in Russian history. Until 1 September, 2013 did not exist for this specialty.

This is quite an important political decision. In recent years, the attention of the whole world is somehow focused on the Arctic zone, in which the main reserves of natural resources are located. Today, even those countries that by geographic location cannot claim to the natural resources of this region of the planet aspire to the Arctic. At the same time, the length of the Russian Arctic borders is very large, so the country has a need for specialists who could ensure their security. At the same time, it is necessary to do this in quite difficult climatic conditions. The climate in the Amur region in terms of the presence of strong sub-zero temperatures and winds is close to the Arctic, so it was decided here to train the Arctic shooters. At the same time, for students the curriculum still provides for internship in the Arctic.

The only arctic shooters group in all of Russia, which is trained in Blagoveshchensk, has so far only 30 people. These cadets will have to learn how to use special military equipment and weapons that will be able to withstand severe Arctic frosts. For more than two months, cadets have been studying engineering structures, explosive business, and rendering medical assistance in permafrost conditions. Very soon, these guys will be served in places where there is no sun for 6 months, and the thermometer sometimes can drop to the mark –60 degrees Celsius. Cadets in the future waiting for the most distant frontier of our country, and he is the most responsible. However, these difficulties do not frighten young people, partly because of the special romance, and, of course, because of the emerging prospects. There is a direct benefit in the service in the Far North - increased wages and long service life (1 is a year of service here counts as 3).


Especially for the training of Arctic cadets, as they had already been called at DVVKU, the higher educational institution received special weapons. Armed arctic shooters will be only those machine guns and grenade launchers that can withstand service in the harsh conditions of the Russian Arctic. At the same time, new domestic 12,7-mm Kord sniper rifle, which is able not only to easily penetrate BTR armor, but also withstand temperatures down to –50 degrees, is of particular interest to future polar officers. And this is the minimum that was confirmed as a result of the tests. As noted by Dmitry Sokolov, teacher of the department of weapons and military equipment of the school, the new sniper rifle is very high reliability. “Cord” is a non-automatic rifle, after the production of each shot it must be reloaded. All the generated energy of the powder gases is used for the flight of a bullet.

For many years, the unchanged attribute of the equipment of military units stationed in the north were skis. But, as they thought at the school, today alone skis are not enough to successfully solve combat missions in the Arctic. Today, speed is becoming increasingly important. Therefore, it was decided to use Buran snowmobiles to move arctic shooters through loose deep snow. Currently, future officers are trained on 3-s snowmobiles, which belong to the border guards, but very soon 10 new high-speed snowmobiles will have to go to the balance of the university.


The practice of the cadets began quite recently, for this reason, despite the mistakes made, they receive a “good” mark on the exercises. At the same time, as the command of the school assures, in the future the requirements for the cadets will become harder and harder. After all, these guys in the future will have to weapons in the hands of defending the interests of Russia in a region as complex as the Arctic is.

It is assumed that the Russian ground forces will receive at least two motorized rifle arctic brigades. According to previously published information, the first one should be created in 2015 year. It is reported that Murmansk and Arkhangelsk will become the location of the Russian Arctic brigades. Initially it was said that the first compound in the Russian army for operations in the Arctic would be created on the basis of the 200-th separate motorized rifle brigade, which is based in Pechenga. It was planned to create it before the end of 2011. However, in the future, the dates were shifted to 2015 year. By this time, the Russian Arctic arrows should receive a full range of promising special equipment, which can be used in difficult Arctic conditions.


In 2013, this technique was actively tested. Equipment for equipping arctic brigades, which will have to serve in high latitudes, is being tested on the border with Norway in the area of ​​the village of Pechenga. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, various research tests of snow-swamp machinery with a carrying capacity of up to 4 tons are actively conducted in Pechenga, in particular, we are talking about GAZ-3351, DT-3P and TTM-3П machines.

For example, the new GAZ-3351 tracked snow and swamp-going vehicle is able to transport up to 2,5 tons of various cargoes or 16 arctic shooters. The TTM-3P is used as a light amphibian and is intended for transporting personnel of combat units. DT-3P floating armored car was originally designed for use in places where there are almost no roads. At the same time, even in the conditions of total off-road, the machine is able to reach speeds of up to 60 km / h, and its range is up to 700 km. All experimental machines are floating and two-link, that is, there is a real opportunity to attach a variety of trailers to them. All these samples of promising military equipment, unlike their civilian “colleagues”, were designed in such a way that they could carry a variety of weapons systems.



Information sources:
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1162009
http://www.ampravda.ru/2013/11/30/040319.html
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/30725
http://barentsobserver.com/ru/bezopasnost/arkticheskie-brigady-poyavyatsya-v-rf-v-2015-godu
http://www.ampravda.ru/2013/11/30/040325.html (фото)
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  1. Denis
    Denis 3 December 2013 08: 23
    16
    for successfully solving combat missions in the Arctic
    It's high time, and then many who already saliva choke on our Arctic looking
    already china, only Cameroon b / w there was still not enough
    1. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 3 December 2013 09: 26
      12
      Our soldiers are the best in the world! To protect the interests of our state and carry out combat missions, they have no equal and never will be.
      1. Heccrbq.3
        Heccrbq.3 3 December 2013 15: 05
        +3
        Does our state stand for the protection of our interests (housing and communal services, gas prices, free medicine, education, etc.)?
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 3 December 2013 13: 14
      +7
      The Arctic cannot be given ...
    3. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 3 December 2013 20: 14
      +5
      The Arctic shooters are good, but it is a pity that little attention is paid to snipers (after all, in the Great Patriotic War, Soviet snipers surpassed the snipers of the Allies and the Wehrmacht both in number and in level of training and achieved significant success).
  2. just exp
    just exp 3 December 2013 08: 33
    +6
    the good news, in fact, after all geopolitical changes, we now have 2 fronts, this is the south, which will have to confront the BV and the Arctic, the one on which the fighting is unlikely to be, but you need to be prepared and staffed to the maximum.
    which is typical, I read about a year ago that ours and BTTs are designing for the Arctic, then that the airfields are being restored, now about shooters.
    it means seriously we took up Akrtiku.
    1. rodevaan
      rodevaan 3 December 2013 15: 44
      +5
      Quote: just EXPL
      the good news, in fact, after all geopolitical changes, we now have 2 fronts, this is the south, which will have to confront the BV and the Arctic, the one on which the fighting is unlikely to be, but you need to be prepared and staffed to the maximum.
      which is typical, I read about a year ago that ours and BTTs are designing for the Arctic, then that the airfields are being restored, now about shooters.
      it means seriously we took up Akrtiku.


      - God grant! It seems that the icebreaking programs will be improved - we are still ahead of the rest of the planet! 37 icebreakers - more than all "partner-friends" combined. Only we have atomic ones. Now the northern bases will be rebuilt, and then the northern combat units.

      Good luck to all of us in this important and necessary thing for posterity!
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 December 2013 08: 36
    +8
    It will be very hard for the guys in arctic conditions. But a necessary and honorable service. Good luck fighters!
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 3 December 2013 15: 00
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      It will be very hard for the guys in arctic conditions. But a necessary and honorable service. Good luck fighters!



      And the payment will not be small and will retire early, and if something happens from the retirees, it will be possible to rivet another team. This is just a fairy tale!
  4. Ols76
    Ols76 3 December 2013 08: 38
    +2
    good article, good luck fighters!
  5. makarov
    makarov 3 December 2013 08: 41
    +5
    All is correct. Life itself makes us create a new kind of troops. The main thing is to properly equip and equip them, taking into account the harsh climate.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 3 December 2013 15: 04
      +9
      attack plane


      Arctic Warrior. Hmmm ... somewhere already good
      1. Kair501
        Kair501 4 December 2013 01: 38
        +3
        not what he will be))))
  6. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 3 December 2013 08: 48
    +5
    but this is really interesting, and most importantly in a timely manner, apparently, such guys can come in handy. otherwise it will turn out like in V.O. V alpinists were gathered all over the country, against "edelweiss" ...
    1. 222222
      222222 3 December 2013 09: 28
      -1
      makarov UA Today, 08:41 AM New
      That's right ... "
      It is interesting what is envisaged for the future with climate change in the Arctic and flooding of territories .. Hundreds of thousands of "climate migrants" will burst .. resettlement of peoples to new territories ...
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 3 December 2013 08: 48
    +5
    About the conditions, it’s not that Arctic, but I know very similar to them firsthand. To work or serve under these conditions is not enough to be trained and equipped. One must also have a certain set of personal qualities and a certain character set. I hope this is taken into account when typing in arctic arrows ...
    1. MAG
      MAG 3 December 2013 14: 33
      +6
      We always have big problems with equipment. If you put on Arctic fighters at least in carinthia, then it will go bankrupt. And so they will dress that is cheaper and not high-quality and will always say that everything is on a global level. Here is a link to the uniforms of mountain brigades and an opinion on it-http: //twower.livejournal.com/1129019.html
  8. creak
    creak 3 December 2013 09: 08
    +3
    The decision is undoubtedly correct, as well as the creation of mountain rifle brigades. In 1942, the defense of the Caucasus cost us considerable casualties, which, along with other factors, was due to the fact that there were too few troops in the North Caucasus Front (unlike the Germans) units and units duly trained for combat operations in mountainous conditions.
  9. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 3 December 2013 09: 23
    +3
    Interesting. In a timely manner. Correctly.
    Good luck to all future Arctic shooters!
  10. Andreitas
    Andreitas 3 December 2013 10: 24
    +3
    The right idea. What you sow now, you will reap later.
  11. Admiral 013
    Admiral 013 3 December 2013 10: 37
    +3
    Polar bear in wild shock! In general, the idea is a good one. We have a tank for such conditions, t-80.
    1. Hort
      Hort 3 December 2013 13: 37
      +1
      theoretically, eighties can be used there. Not far from cities where there are solid roads or soil. And in the "wild" tundra, he will either get bogged down in a swamp or in the snow, given its weight
  12. Letnab
    Letnab 3 December 2013 10: 48
    0
    it’s necessary to cook. And in practice, send a thread to the north of Yakutia, or to Chukotka. Here there would have been a dashing moment ...)) After that, the service in Arkhangelsk would have seemed like honey (again) ...
    But really, these cadets need to conduct classes in the north of the Amur Region, where winter is almost the same as winter in the North, and in the summer to march on the technique and on foot, really look at the northern romance differently!
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 3 December 2013 10: 58
      0
      Quote: Letnab
      And in practice, send a thread to the north of Yakutia, or to Chukotka. There they would have dashing ...

      Why so far? Langepas would be quite enough, for example .... Well, or (if it seems a little), then N. Urengoy ...
  13. Slon1978
    Slon1978 3 December 2013 10: 51
    +6
    The idea is correct, but really these shots cause only laughter. There is a persistent feeling that this is window dressing, and only for journalists and window dressing is quite unqualified and whipped up quickly. Everywhere you look - everywhere is sticky. Is it on the Burany that they are going to ride through the Arctic desert? The reliability of this unit, a centuries-old development, even then caused great complaints, but now it is hopelessly outdated, just ashamed to watch. There are excellent Arctic snowmobiles - we can’t do it ourselves, so then we must buy from those who can. Here, this patriotism will really translate into a bunch of wasted money, an unfulfilled task and frostbite of soldiers. Which one came up to ski a soldier behind Buran? Where did this marasmic going come from - did they come up for the sake of journalists? For this there are drags or sledges. What fighter and how far will go in the snow with such a luggage behind? It would be better if they cross-kilometer cross-country skiing ran than to engage in this nonsense. I myself have to do with snowmobiles, skiing and professionals, it would be immediately obvious - here I really see one big stick.
    1. AK-47
      AK-47 3 December 2013 11: 12
      +1
      Quote: Slon1978
      Where did this marasmic going come from - for the sake of journalists came up with

      Down and Out trouble started. Unfortunately, as always, you have to learn from mistakes.
    2. zvereok
      zvereok 3 December 2013 15: 23
      +1
      Quote: Slon1978
      Which one came up to ski a soldier behind Buran?


      Are they laying a ski track?
  14. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 3 December 2013 11: 06
    +2
    Given the fact that the length of the Russian Arctic coast is 22,6 thousand kilometers ... the need for the deployment of such units becomes clear

    But by the way, it did not at all become clear why these units were being created. Maybe for reconnaissance in Alaska, or deep raids in Norway? Or to drive strangers of the same specialists in our Arctic. And they just roam there, but going? Or is it just normal preparation for maintaining a database in the winter, then why this exclusive in our country most of the country in winter as the Arctic and so it is necessary to prepare the whole army. It would be better if the author nevertheless clearly indicated the reasons for creating such exotic and apparently expensive units, and did not get off with general phrases.
  15. VVooVVaa
    VVooVVaa 3 December 2013 11: 19
    +3
    How strange is it that glasses get knocked out of a white disguise? why is that?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 3 December 2013 11: 56
      +7
      Quote: VVooVVaa
      How strange is it that glasses get knocked out of a white disguise? why is that?

      For the north, a new uniform is being prepared for the “Warrior-Arctic” for border guards. Maybe they’ll put in the army ...
    2. chehywed
      chehywed 3 December 2013 12: 02
      +2
      Quote: VVooVVaa
      How strange is it that glasses get knocked out of a white disguise? why is that?

      Nothing else gets out? Well there ... machines, boots ... skiing with sticks? And in white glasses they would run ...
  16. Strashila
    Strashila 3 December 2013 11: 47
    +2
    Everything is new ... well-forgotten old, the main thing is to sound loud. In Soviet times there were just ski battalions ... my grandfather served in Finnish in this. I think let them make a hundred-kilometer daily ski transition to the enemy rear ... burrowing in the snow , wait, destroy the enemy’s convoy ... then back to their territory ... they can ???, and our grandfathers could. Even in peacetime they were called in the winter ... for three days they made the transition back and forth, fully armed over a range of about 100 km ... in the taiga. And again, to the history of the matter ... in the 50s of the last century, simple infantry was taught to survive in the tundra, in the Kamchatka Peninsula, even if he served in the Navy, they saw how they were prepared ... at the beginning of the day in an open field in the snow ... more three days ... how to bury in the snow, how to heat up.
    So they just remember the Soviet past ... no more.
  17. Hikar
    Hikar 3 December 2013 12: 11
    +5
    23 thousand km .. it’s necessary 2 brigades !!! and both of them in the west (Arkhangelsk, Murmansk), although we have one brigade now covering the border 3 thousand kilometers from Irkutsk to Belogorsk, then it’s probably normal)))
    and * cord * is a heavy machine gun so
  18. pv1005
    pv1005 3 December 2013 12: 28
    +7
    There are several discrepancies.
    1. Merit in Murmansk and Arkhangelsk lasts a year and a half, not three. District coefficient. in Murmansk = 1.4 + polar.
    2. The length of the Arctic coast is 22,6 thousand km, and they want to place both brigades in almost the same place on the left flank. And who and how will cover Yakutia and Chukotka. Or we will drive l / s across the country and time zones.
    3. How will the transfer of military vehicles and equipment to threatened areas be carried out? The closest to Pechenga military airfield is Severomorsk, which is almost 200 km. Quickly succeed.
    This is so quick. Although there are many more questions. I would like them all to be resolved in advance.
    In the Arctic, storming and window dressing lead to sad consequences and high costs.
    1. pr 627
      pr 627 3 December 2013 23: 08
      0
      The nearest airfield to Pechenga for large aircraft is 10 kilometers away.
  19. knn54
    knn54 3 December 2013 12: 32
    12
    ONLY Blagoveshchensk school (from the time of the USSR) trained officers of the marine corps, then officers for the mountain rifle units, now the Arctic shooters. Taburetkin could not cover this school - he was commanded by a cousin of Boris Gryzlov, Vladimir Gryzlov.
    As for the soldiers - the Chukchi. This is from time immemorial (read the story) good warriors and hunters. It’s just that one should give more for the skin of a NATO than for a fox ...
    And drones with weapons to the maximum.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 3 December 2013 15: 27
      0
      Quote: knn54
      This is from time immemorial (read the story) good warriors and hunters. It’s just that one should give more for the skin of a NATO than for a fox ...


      NATO members have any more dough.
  20. Andrey57
    Andrey57 3 December 2013 12: 51
    +9
    There is no need to fight with NATO troops in Yakutia and Chukotka, it is enough for local hunters to issue "correct prices" and ensure the absence of air support - and Arctic foxes with silver foxes will be more intact, and NATO troops will be taken out very quickly laughing
  21. Hikar
    Hikar 3 December 2013 13: 13
    +5
    Today, in Yakutia, wolves are in trend ... they give 20 000 r for a head ...
  22. Hort
    Hort 3 December 2013 13: 34
    +4
    I suggest a name: special forces "Arctic fox" =)
    So that the expression "an arctic fox came to him" acquired a more material meaning laughing

    Well, on the topic:
    Currently, the only group of cadets in Russia is undergoing a training course in Blagoveshchensk
    training for "arctic" troops should take place in the arctic, not in Blagoveshchensk. Since the climate is significantly different, the skills of topographic orientation in the bare tundra should be practiced in practice in the same tundra, moving around the terrain in winter and summer (do not forget that the tundra is actually a swamp), the skill of using technology should be precisely in the Arctic. conditions to be worked out. And I don't think there is a polar night in Blagoveshchensk.
    Since there is simply no polar night in the Amur region, up to 30% of field training is conducted by future Arctic motorized riflemen at night.
    in, and in the vicinity of the same Norilsk, several abandoned military units that could be used.
    The practice of the cadets began recently, for this reason, despite the mistakes made, they receive the grade “good” on the exercises. At the same time, as the school command assures, in the future the requirements for cadets will become more stringent. Indeed, it is precisely these guys in the future who will have to defend Russia's interests with arms in their hands in such a complex region as the Arctic.
    She will give them the main mark. I would not put any "good" for jambs and errors. Everything should be worked out to the smallest detail and automatism, so that the fins do not accidentally stick together later.
    The technique is well chosen. Significantly, Vityaz (DT-30) will not be used.
    1. diver1977
      diver1977 3 December 2013 14: 13
      +2
      Better "Polar Bears". And it sounds and reflects the essence, and the bear is a symbol of Russia. The very presence of special troops should deter opponents from rash actions. And as for the fact that two brigades are not writing enough - in my opinion, two trained brigades in those conditions are worth the entire army of China and the United States combined.
      1. Hort
        Hort 3 December 2013 14: 32
        0
        so the fact of the matter is that they are not yet prepared (judging by the article) in those conditions, although there is a possibility.
  23. mithridate
    mithridate 3 December 2013 14: 01
    0
    timely measure. The main thing is that it does not turn into yet another storming and window dressing, and then gradually fading away
  24. Russian officer
    Russian officer 3 December 2013 14: 38
    +2
    Damn happy for my own school !!!!!!!
    [quote = Hort]
    I will tell you this, in Blagoveshchensk there is no sea. But the officers of the marine corps graduate from the school are worthy and quite professional. Himself so! The internship took place at the Pacific Fleet in 55 Mozyr Red Banner.
    Frosts in Blagoveshchensk are not worse than the Arctic ones. We even had such a concept "Amur stance".
    The training center on Mukhinka, more than 100% sure, is able to provide the proper level of tactical training. Fortunately, there is enough snow there. Well, the internships will be held in Murmansk or Arkhangelsk. It all starts from scratch. Once the T-80 with the BMP-3 was a curiosity for us. So it was not just the method of trial, error. Nothing! Break through !!!!
    1. erix-xnumx
      erix-xnumx 4 December 2013 01: 59
      0
      The training center of the school is a farm Klimkovka. So it was called in the days of the TWO. To the camp site Mukhinka another hour to walk along the hills.
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  25. Russian officer
    Russian officer 3 December 2013 14: 38
    +5
    Damn happy for my own school !!!!!!!
    [quote = Hort]
    I will tell you this, in Blagoveshchensk there is no sea. But the officers of the marine corps graduate from the school are worthy and quite professional. Himself so! The internship took place at the Pacific Fleet in 55 Mozyr Red Banner.
    Frosts in Blagoveshchensk are not worse than the Arctic ones. We even had such a concept "Amur stance".
    The training center on Mukhinka is more than 100% sure that it can provide the proper level of training. Fortunately, there is enough snow there. Well, the internships will be held in Murmansk or Arkhangelsk. It all starts from scratch. When the T-80 with the BMP-3 was a wonder for us. So it was not just the method of trial, error. Nothing! Break through !!!!
    1. erix-xnumx
      erix-xnumx 4 December 2013 02: 06
      0
      And what kind of formation is this at the Pacific Fleet - "55th Mozyr Red Banner"? Do you write about the 55th DMP? If about her, then she is not the Red Banner and not Mozyr.
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  26. waisson
    waisson 3 December 2013 14: 43
    -3
    here are how many years and everything is appearing, it’s time to send them to retirement for a long time, while conversations
  27. Leshka
    Leshka 3 December 2013 15: 32
    0
    right anito us in the polar region some polar bears guard
  28. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 3 December 2013 15: 49
    +1
    We need the Arctic parts for a long time. It would be nice if they stopped talking about it, but started to do something.

    Sincere wishes:
    The guys from the DVKU - successful service.
    And the 200th brigade - good commanders and solid equipment.

    And then, it seems, there was a rumor that the T-80 was taken from them ... and this is the very tank for the Arctic.

    In the photo: Tank Directrix of full-time firing of the 200th Brigade.
    Ammunition point.
    Not hot, however.
  29. Hort
    Hort 3 December 2013 16: 28
    0
    I don’t understand a bit about the T-80. Explain who understands why he is a tank specifically for the Arctic? Well, everything is clear to me with the engine, but weight - how to use it in the tundra?
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 3 December 2013 16: 37
      +3
      Quote: hort
      I don’t understand a bit about the T-80. Explain who understands why he is a tank specifically for the Arctic?

      In the 200th brigade, the basics of movement are: "motolabs" and DT-30, and rightly so. (although the DT-30 is already 30 years old, and there is no replacement for them).
      But then tanks are also needed?
      Are needed.
      Of the tank line, the T-80 is most preferred.

      And the North is different.

      Photo: T-80 200th brigade.
      1. waisson
        waisson 3 December 2013 18: 03
        -1
        TUNDRA DEER DED FROST
      2. Hort
        Hort 4 December 2013 11: 49
        0
        Of course, tanks are needed. It’s extremely limited to use them in the Arctic, on solid ground only (perhaps it is in Murmansk and Arkhangelsk). And in the tundra swamp there is no sense in them.
        By the way, it was recalled here, there was a project of arming the DT-30 with a tank gun on the roof =)
        Vityaz has a huge flaw: if he gets up, only another one of the same can pull him out (For example, in Taimyr they drive in pairs). Well, mother eats fuel. Do not Cry
    2. iSpoiler
      iSpoiler 3 December 2013 16: 48
      +1
      Someone just blurted out nonsense ... do not pay attention ... the same T72 is, in theory, easier, meaning passable. About the engine in vain, the gas turbine in the Arctic has no advantages - the same diesel engines are equipped with a pre-start heating system. Starts a minute later. I speak as a former mechanic driver MT-TWT who served in the winter in Khabarovsk (minus 40 as an adult) and on Iturup Island, which is in the Kuril Islands (another year and a half urgent). Everything went there normally, without locks.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 3 December 2013 17: 16
        +3
        Quote: iSpoiler
        Someone just blurted out nonsense ... do not pay attention ... the same t72 in theory is easier, meaning passable. About the engine in vain, the gas turbine in the Arctic has no advantages - the same diesel engines are equipped with a pre-start heating system. Starts a minute later.

        Daniil, you have a practice of mech.water on a "motolab". It is wonderful.

        And to get the T-72B in -40 is also no problem. You just need to get some sluggishness. Not so far from the place of your service they started them in ZabVO.
        And I saw the procedure for launching the T-80 in frost from the "neighbors".
        Heaven and Earth.

        So it's not worth it to be more careful with the expression "nonsense".

        ps In the previous topics, a lot of good material on this topic from the tankers, they recalled it in detail.

        Sincerely
        Alex.
  30. iSpoiler
    iSpoiler 3 December 2013 16: 50
    0
    I look at the very first photo and think - how will they dress OZK ..)
  31. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 3 December 2013 17: 02
    -1
    What is interesting they will do in the vast uninhabited open spaces? Is there at least one country
    wishing to fight in the Arctic with Russia, vague doubts torment me. I myself served at a point in Kara
    sea, a person without infrastructure will not survive there if he is not a local resident. Then there was a separate
    Arctic border corps and it was enough for the entire coast from Norway to Alaska. Border guards
    patrolled by helicopters, the local population was instructed about all kinds of strangers
    there were no problems.
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 3 December 2013 17: 38
      -1
      So there will be border guards, flyers, aerospace defense officers and a couple of brigades deployed, most likely, next to such air-wok bases
      1. EdwardTich68
        EdwardTich68 3 December 2013 17: 43
        -1
        From Murmansk and Arkhangelsk to Chukotka far.
  32. Aydar
    Aydar 3 December 2013 17: 42
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    Let the Finns learn from the Lapland Brigade. Finns are real polar warriors.
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 3 December 2013 20: 09
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      Finns in the taiga fight well and in the tundra where the trees are 15 centimeters tall and they
      sour.
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  34. creep: b
    creep: b 3 December 2013 22: 03
    +2
    in the Arctic you need such a monster! in the USSR they tested hovercraft on a snowy and ice surface! better not to come up
  35. creep: b
    creep: b 3 December 2013 22: 03
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    and even better this one))
  36. creep: b
    creep: b 3 December 2013 22: 07
    0
    The amphibious cargo platform on the Arktika air cushion, developed by Omsk scientists, was put into service with the Russian army, the head of the Omsk Region Ministry of Industry, Alexander Gorbunov, told reporters on Friday at a press conference.

    Earlier it was reported that in November 2010, Omsk designers patented an amphibious articulated cargo platform “Arktika”, which was included in the state register of inventions of Russia.
  37. creep: b
    creep: b 3 December 2013 22: 09
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    Finns fuckers! d)
  38. m262
    m262 3 December 2013 22: 45
    +1
    In general, this is ZhU-ZhU about the Arctic for a reason ...
    We don’t know something, and the Greenpeace’s got moving and the airfield is being re-opened, Putin is aggressively answering questions about the Arctic, now these brigades too ...
    Need to think...
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  40. Massik
    Massik 3 December 2013 23: 25
    +2
    I don’t know where the photographs come from, but this complete ****-equipment is hidden under a camouflage dress, and not dressed outside, no one can wrap the machine with a bandage, no one teaches hello a bullet in the shutter frame. Snowshoes at a depth of 10-20 cm are very good. God forbid they should fight like that. I would have been beaten off by everyone in the group. If I had fired at least once in this form, not to mention tactics.
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  42. kirpich
    kirpich 3 December 2013 23: 44
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    Eeee .... Ah, can I ask you a question? Where is Blagoveshchensk and WHERE is the Arctic located? Maybe you should look at the map? wink Maybe it is worth training special forces in Yakutia (in winter)? fool. You look who will survive, there will be an elite.
    1. erix-xnumx
      erix-xnumx 4 December 2013 02: 02
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      In Blagoveshchensk, in winter for minus 45, there is enough snow. And in Yakutia, a military school has not yet been built.
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      2. kirpich
        kirpich 6 December 2013 00: 38
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        And in Taimyr in winter for minus 60. And nothing, people live. They produce furs, meat, fish. And the soldiers serve. repeat
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  43. Agent 008
    Agent 008 4 December 2013 00: 03
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    My opinion: no one will fight with each other in the Arctic over the coming decades (not yet because of what), it’s more like a show of strength ... Well, there will be someone to guard the kitchen so that white bears don’t stole anything to eat .. .
  44. IRON_MAN
    IRON_MAN 4 December 2013 00: 15
    +1
    One can argue for a long time about the need for preparedness and the number of brigades in the Arctic, but we can say with confidence that if there are no ours there, there will be no emptiness, there will be bases of smiling people with "droplet" glasses ... stop
  45. waisson
    waisson 4 December 2013 01: 56
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    who about what and jokes did not understand tugovat here another type of weapons and equipment is needed and you all on tanks want to force the polar ice
  46. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 4 December 2013 06: 29
    +1
    For the border guards in 2015, they will begin to massively purchase the "Arctic Warrior" (60 thousand rubles per set). The Arctic brigades will also be created in 2015. It is logical to assume that they will also be "dressed" in the "Arctic Warrior". In addition to electric heating, this equipment is also does not give off body heat hermetically, which means that it is more difficult to detect soldiers in thermal imagers.
    Today, speed is gaining importance. Therefore, to move the Arctic shooters in loose deep snow, it was decided to use the Buran snowmobiles.
    excellent, the main thing is not red. I would not forget about reindeer teams. In the Second World War, they showed themselves.
  47. Cormorants
    Cormorants 4 December 2013 06: 51
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    Good news, good luck guys!
  48. Cormorants
    Cormorants 4 December 2013 06: 51
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    Good news, good luck guys!
  49. solovald
    solovald 4 December 2013 07: 07
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    Why in the good? There are no frosts, and so little cool. It is necessary to transfer the training center directly to the Arctic, to the tundra, for example, to Tiksi, especially since the presence of the RF Armed Forces is already planned to be revived there. Or MO follows an example: Winter Olympus. games - in the subtropics !!! ???
  50. solovald
    solovald 4 December 2013 07: 07
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    Why in the good? There are no frosts, and so little cool. It is necessary to transfer the training center directly to the Arctic, to the tundra, for example, to Tiksi, especially since the presence of the RF Armed Forces is already planned to be revived there. Or MO follows an example: Winter Olympus. games - in the subtropics !!! ???