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Good old "Plavun"

“Floaters” we called floating Tanks PT-76 in our cadet youth, In those distant 70s in our glorious Guards Tank School annually two platoons of graduates were sent to the Marines to undergo "further service". Accordingly, the cadets of these platoons specialized in armored vehicles that were armed with the marine corps. The most common tank of the Marines in those years was the light amphibious tank PT-76, more precisely, its later modification PT '76B. Of course, this car was inferior in many respects to the secret at that time T-64A, which the other cadets specialized in. Naturally, the “sixty-four”, on occasion, made fun of the “Marines,” they say they are going to serve on cans, they even composed a song: “Fri from the city of Chuguev is floating on the river ...”, and so on.

Good old "Plavun"

The PT-76 amphibious tanks regularly served in our armed forces in various regions and were popular both with sailors and in the Ground Forces. In the well-established areas of the North and the Far East, these cars were often rescued as the only means of transport to the muddy road, on which it was possible to deliver food or take the woman to the nearest hospital. There were cases when they did not have time to get to the hospital, and courageous officer wives gave birth on the armor of “swimmers”.

PT-76 was used in hostilities in Africa, the Middle East, the Indo-Pakistan conflict 1965 of the year and was especially widespread in the 1965-1975 years in Vietnam by the North Vietnamese army. And, despite such a "respectable" age, these tanks are still in service with the Russian Army. PT-76 took part in the war in Chechnya.

In other countries, where the floating tanks were delivered, and there are more than two dozen of such countries only in foreign countries, these vehicles also continue to serve.

What explains such popularity and the birth of plans to modernize the floating long-liver? In my opinion, everything is very simple - since the adoption of the PT-76, nothing like this has been created that can replace this tank.

In addition, modern views of the theory and practice of warfare draw attention to the ever-increasing role of mobility of forces capable of conducting rapid, highly maneuverable actions on large spaces, both with a developed network of roads and on off-road operational areas, as well as conditions of severe destruction and flooding, artificial obstacles where a wide and fast maneuver is required by forces and means. In this regard, in the armies of many countries, to create mobile forces that meet these requirements. To equip such forces at the end of the 20th century, they began to develop and deploy production of a whole range of new light tanks, such as: Stingray and M8 (USA). CV90120 (Sweden) and others.
The formation of mobile forces today are in demand both in regular searches and in the composition of the internal troops (gendarmerie, police).
What are the requirements for a modern light tank?

First of all, light tanks should significantly exceed other vehicles of mobile forces in terms of firepower. Their weapons should be universal, ensuring effective defeat: open and sheltered, including in engineering structures, enemy manpower, anti-tank weapons of small, medium and long range, light in weight combat and special vehicles.

In addition, light tanks must be able to counteract heavy combat vehicles (medium and heavy tanks), destroying the latter or causing damage to them, causing their operation to cease during the battle.

It is also necessary that the armament of the light tank be able to protect mobile units from attacks by helicopters and low-flying aircraft in conditions of weak air defense.

The most important property of light tanks when operating as part of the mobile * forces is tactical and operational mobility. So, for example, the average speeds of movement of machines, consisting on the equipment of their forces. on the aggregate of road conditions must be at least 40-45 km / h with a reserve stock for fuel 500-600 km.

In the fulfillment of operational tasks, the design of light tanks should ensure the transfer of large masses of troops by road, rail, water, or air transport.

The most important property for light tanks is their amphibiousness, which allows troops to overcome water obstacles, such as lakes, rivers, canals, flooded areas, as well as act quickly in capturing and defending the coast or in a developed island zone.

It is fundamentally important that light tanks, in principle, cannot be replaced by others that are commensurate in mass, including infantry fighting vehicles (BMP), although such proposals have been heard more than once. This is due to the fact that tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are designed to perform various tasks, and the need to deploy troops with a limited internal volume of infantry fighting vehicles makes it impossible to deploy powerful enough tank weapons.

As a result of a comprehensive analysis of the development trends of light tanks, the most promising direction in the creation of a modern machine in Russia was the adoption of a profound modernization of the PT-76B light tank tanks that proved themselves well in service and in the battlefield.
Our Russian designers have developed a program for upgrading a floating tank. The lead company for the development of this program was the company Special Machinery and Metallurgy (Moscow). Its implementation allows not only to significantly increase the life of the machine, but also several times increases its combat effectiveness.

With regard to the previously listed fire tasks, the most versatile weapon for a light tank is currently a cannon. As such, for installation in the PT-76 tank, the Russian 57-mm automatic gun C-60 and 90-mm Belgian gun Mk III of the company "Cockeril" were considered. Preference was given to C-60. Below it becomes clear why. The 90-mm cannon has a great ability to combat bronzelelimi and at 1000-1500 m ranges the armor-piercing projectile has armor penetration in 1.7 - 1.9 times higher than the C-60 projectile. However, this is not enough to defeat modern tanks into frontal projections, and any modern tank takes to the board at the same ranges of the 57-mm gun.

Left view of the light modernized tank PT-76B

On the other hand, when firing an infantry combat vehicle (armored personnel carrier) at a distance of 2 km, the probability of hitting a target with one line of an 57-mm automatic cannon is 1,75 times higher than a single shot from an 90-mm Mk III cannon.

If we compare the results of firing from the same guns at the anti-tank missile system at a distance of 2,5 km, then the automatic gun surpasses the Belgian competitor 2 times. As for firing at helicopters, non-automatic guns are completely unable to fight such an opponent. At the same time, the automatic cannon in one turn hits this target with a probability of no less than 0,6. This is also important because mobile forces often operate in the absence of cover for highly effective air defense systems.

Considering the above, it was decided to drastically increase the firepower of the upgraded PT-76 by installing a new turret with an armament complex based on an automatic cannon mounted on the vehicle. The complex includes an 57-mm automatic gun (converted from the C-60 anti-aircraft gun). The revision of the gun and its loading mechanism with the aim of being able to be mounted on light armored vehicles was made by the Nizhny Novgorod Burevestnik design bureau. When firing an armor piercing tracer at a range of 1120, the gun provides penetration of 100 mm armor, in other words, it pierces the side of any modern tank. As for the reliable defeat of light-class armored vehicles, such as infantry fighting vehicles or armored personnel carriers, the new gun ensures their reliable defeat throughout the target range. Zabronevy action consists in breaking off and scattering fragments of the armored structure and the projectile as a result of the operation of the bottom fuse and the explosion of the projectile.

The 57-mm automatic cannon uses two types of regular unitary shots: with a fragment-tracer projectile and with an armor-piercing-tracer projectile. However, it is possible to use shots with a special anti-aircraft projectile (in this case, the maximum slant range for firing at air targets is more than 6 km.). Shooting from a cannon can be carried out by single shots, short bursts of 2-5 shots or continuous bursts. The maximum length of a continuous queue is 30 shots.

Automatics of the gun works at the expense of the shot energy, which makes it possible to dispense with the use of an external automatic drive, as is done on most foreign automatic guns. Automatics used in our company will provide an opportunity to obtain a design with acceptable weight and size characteristics and does not require additional power sources, and provides firing even in the absence of power supply.

To reduce gas content in the fighting compartment, the gun is closed with a protective casing with ventilation. The gun is equipped with an automatic loader and ejection of spent cartridges driven by sliding parts, which provides it with a technical rate of fire of 120 shots per minute. As an additional weapons in the new turret, an 7.62-mm PKT machine gun coupled with a cannon is used.

Combined sight "League-S"

Combat module of the upgraded tank PT-76B

Automatic ammunition on 20 shots.

The ammunition for the cannon is placed in an automatic 20 round of ammunition with a mechanism for selecting the type of ammunition in the shooting process and in a mechanized ammunition using 70 rounds.

Essentially automatic ammunition is an automatic loader with automatic selection of the type of ammunition. This device allowed the use of a single-threaded gun on the tank, while ensuring the use of ammunition of various types. The ammunition type change is carried out, automated in 2-4 seconds.

The replenishment of the automatic ammunition is carried out by the loader. It does not require any complex manipulations. The next projectile is selected from the mechanized ammunition and placed in the automatic. The total time for filling the automatic ammunition is two minutes. This design of the power supply system has no analogues in the world and can be considered as Russian “know-how”.

In order to ensure high accuracy of firing, a modern automated fire control system (SLA), working in conjunction with a new two-plane weapon stabilizer (STV), is included in the armament complex. MSA provides: round-the-clock target detection; measurement of the distance to them; defining and entering corrections for firing; stabilized targeting of primary and secondary weapons and the firing of ground, surface and air targets from a place, from a course and afloat with a selected type of ammunition with the required length of turn.

The sighting and observation complex of the control system includes a combined sight “Liga-S” with an independent line of sight stabilized in two planes (developed by one of the Belarusian optical-mechanical enterprises), having optical, infrared and laser rangefinder channels, as well as a duplicate of the main sight - zenith sight 1П67.

Correction for shooting is determined by a tank ballistic computer (TBV), working in conjunction with a set of automatic sensors for firing conditions. Such sensors in the OMS of the upgraded PT-76 tank are: League-S head mirror unit, laser rangefinder, heel, heading angle sensor, tank movement speed and weather conditions. Part of the data needed for making corrections for firing is entered into the TBV manually, such as air temperature and charge, barrel bore wear (total gun head), atmospheric pressure, and some others In accordance with the manual firing conditions received from automatic sensors and manually entered in the TBV, the computer generates electrical signals corresponding to the aiming and leading angles that are fed to the control unit of the weapon stabilizer, and the PST guidance actuators aim the weapon at the pre-empted point.
The median error of stabilization when driving at a speed of 25 km / h is no more than 0,5 mrad. In other words, when shooting on the move with a specified speed of at least 50,% of hits when shooting at a range of 1000 meters will not deviate more than 50 cm from the aiming point.

To improve the visibility of the vehicle at the workplace of the tank commander and loader, prism observation devices were installed: four TH PO-170A and two TN PT-1.

Based on the firing from the spot, on the move, afloat, the following average data characterizing the effective firing range of the 57-mm automatic cannon of the upgraded PT-76 at various targets was obtained:
for medium and main tanks (defeat after penetration of onboard projections) - up to 1000 m:
on infantry fighting vehicles (armored personnel carriers, self-propelled guns) - up to 2100 m:
towed artillery - up to 2300 m;
for unarmored vehicles - up to 2500 m;
on manpower in defenses - up to 1300 m;
on open manpower - up to 3500 m;
by helicopter - to 4000 m.

Elements of the stabilizer weapons upgraded tank PT-76B
1 - control panel
2 - control unit
3 - Gyrotachometer
4 - Inverter
5 - amplifier
6 - drive motor
7 - gun position sensor
8 - angle limiter

In general, the new weapon system provides the upgraded vehicle with increased firepower compared to PT-76B by 5.5!
At the same time, there are real technical possibilities for the implementation of other options for constructing an SLA - from less complex to the most modern, using a thermal sight. The use of guided missile weapons and the inclusion of an appropriate control channel in the LMS are also not excluded.

Along with the task of achieving a new level of firepower with the modernization of the tank, the task of increasing the mobility and reliability of the machine was solved. This provides for the full restoration of the resource tank.

In order to increase the mobility of the vehicle on land (afloat in its class, tanks of the PT-76 type are still unequal), a more powerful UTD-23 diesel engine (hp 300 power .c.) and transmissions used on BMD-238, with appropriate supporting systems.

Gearbox installed when upgrading the tank PT-76B

This allowed significantly, from 17.1 at least to 20 hp / t, to raise the specific power of the tank. According to this indicator, among the light tanks, the upgraded vehicle is second only to the newest US light tanks, Stingray and M8.

However, it should be noted that American cars are not capable of swimming across water obstacles, which greatly limits their maneuverability and reduces the value as a light tank. The Russian modernized PT-76 kept its buoyancy at the same level.

Mobility upgrades: the tank allowed the maximum speed to be increased from 44 to 60 km / h, and the average speed on pound roads from 32 to 42 km / h.

Installed on the machine and new tracks with the best grip and long service life. Modernization of the power plant on the chassis developed by the Volgograd Tractor Plant design bureau, mobility, it allows to increase the operational reliability of the machine, and reduces the fatigue of the driver when making long marches and driving difficult terrain conditions.

The incompatibility of the requirements of high mobility, buoyancy, air mobility and armor protection from the effects of anti-tank weapons made limited the ability of the PT-76 design to protect the crew and internal equipment of the machine from heavy machine guns, small-caliber automatic guns, artillery shrapnel and mines. Moreover, practically any armored design of a combat vehicle weighing up to 30 t does not provide protection against the shells of tank guns and grenades of hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers.

General view of the light modernized tank PT-76B

The security of the upgraded machine and its survival on the battlefield are provided with a new high-speed fire extinguishing system. In addition, the equipment is considered to be equipped with a system for scanning and detecting optical devices (like sniper detection instruments) and automatic target designation. In other words, as soon as an optical device appears in the field of view of the sight, aimed at the side of the tank. The LMS in automatic mode will split the turret in a fraction of a second in its direction, prepare the data for firing and hover the gun at it, all that remains is to press the firing button.

A promising solution is to equip the upgraded tank with a system of mounted dynamic protection, allowing the machine to be protected from hand grenades and anti-tank grenade launchers and anti-tank guided missiles with tandem combat units. And such systems in Russia have already been developed and tested.

Another direction to enhance the protection of the upgraded PT-76 (and other light combat vehicles is the system of opto-electronic suppression of the control channels of anti-tank missiles and corrected artillery shells and mines in the final section of the trajectory, as well as active protection complexes. Such systems have also been developed and tested. By the way, American specialists show great interest in them, having the goal to minimize the loss of their armored vehicles in Iraq. In general, light tanks can be provided reliable protection from the effects of most anti-tank weapons, it all depends on the thickness .... No, not armor, but the customer’s wallet.

One of the important properties of modern armored vehicles is command control. In this regard, the modernization program PT-76 replacement of previously installed communications with modern ones. At the request of the customer can also be installed and means of communication of foreign origin.
The process of upgrading the PT-76 is technologically advanced and requires a relatively low labor intensity. This is achieved through the use of modular technology.

In the course of modernization, two major technological operations are being carried out on the installation of a new combat module and the installation of a new engine with improved transmission assemblies. These operations can be carried out at enterprises with a minimum of high-tech equipment, including forces of military repair enterprises. By the way, after the development of the described modernization program for the PT-76 tanks, it was decided to resume the production of spare parts for this tank at the main manufacturer.

Modernization of the PT-76 tank according to the considered project will increase its combat capabilities by 2.7 times, which, at relatively insignificant costs, takes this vehicle to the level of a new modern light amphibious tank that meets all the requirements for this class of combat vehicles. Great for you swimming good old "floater"!
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  1. sq
    sq 16 October 2013 09: 08
    Everything looks good in the description. The only question is the reliability of protection against RPGs and ATGMs. In the photo, a car without DZ. And how the mounted remote sensing will affect the buoyancy of the tank.
    1. 0255
      0255 16 October 2013 12: 13
      Quote: kvm
      Everything looks good in the description. The only question is the reliability of protection against RPGs and ATGMs. In the photo, a car without DZ. And how the mounted remote sensing will affect the buoyancy of the tank.

      But MBTs are also not 100% protected from grenade launchers and ATGMs.
  2. svp67
    svp67 16 October 2013 09: 10
    "PTShka", many say these words with special warmth, as they served on these machines. And really the tank does not leave indifferent after meeting itself ... And of course it's good that they started talking about the possibility of modernization, but honestly, how much is it necessary? In the sense of this "new" car. PT76, an excellent vehicle for the Marine Corps, where it can be easily used as an amphibious vehicle, for transporting people afloat, putting the troops on the armor, here it is good, and then? The armor is equivalent in its protective properties to the BMP3, but the armament, even after the proposed modernization, is still weaker than that on the BMP3, although it was possible to put a 57 mm "twin" on the PT, there will be enough space there, whether the hull design will withstand, question ... And as much as I dislike the PTShka, I still think that at the moment it is better to put more BMP3s in the troops than to spend money on modernizing the PT76, although such an upgrade can be offered to those countries that still have it in service.
    And apparently it is worth using the experience of the "terminators" in the issue of modernizing the AT.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 16 October 2013 09: 15
      Yesterday I watched on the Discovery Channel the memoirs of American veterans of the Vietnam War. The PT-76 tank vexed them.
      1. sergey72
        sergey72 16 October 2013 18: 49
        Quote: xetai9977
        Yesterday I watched on the Discovery Channel the memoirs of American veterans of the Vietnam War. The PT-76 tank vexed them.
        Sorry, do not share the name of the film? Yours faithfully... hi
  3. svp67
    svp67 16 October 2013 09: 13
    It was this tank that helped the Israelis win the 1973 year on the Egyptian front ...
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  4. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 16 October 2013 09: 14
    Quote: kvm
    Everything looks good in the description. The only question is the reliability of protection against RPGs and ATGMs. In the photo, a car without DZ. And how the mounted remote sensing will affect the buoyancy of the tank.

    PT-76 just ceases to be floating, i.e. yourself...
    1. bask
      bask 16 October 2013 19: 47
      Quote: Prapor-527
      PT-76 just ceases to be floating, i.e. yourself...

      Yes, this is a serious obstacle to modernization.
      And yet, mine protection is necessary. Then the tank will cease to be seaworthy at all.
      Marines need a new, new modular, tracked platform.
      With a good, combined abuse, DZ, and enhanced mine protection.
      These are standard modern requirements for armored vehicles.
  5. erix-xnumx
    erix-xnumx 16 October 2013 09: 15
    I don’t know how in other fleets, but in the Pacific Fleet the PT-76 was hardly the most common tank in the Marine Corps. On the eve of the disbandment of tank units and subunits in the early 90s, the 55th Marine Division had only two BPT battalions of amphibious tanks armed with the PT-76. These are battalions of 165 and 106 regiments of the Marine Corps. And in the 390th Marine Regiment there was a tank battalion on the T-55. In addition, the division included the 150th tank regiment, which also had the T-55 in service. Total we have: four tank battalions T-55 against two battalions PT-76.
  6. kirgudu
    kirgudu 16 October 2013 10: 21
    Against snipers, tinkers would be guys in Syria.
  7. avt
    avt 16 October 2013 10: 37
    Nostalgia for a well-deserved car is understandable and, by the way, quite understandable - the tasks for which it was done have not disappeared, there is no less water and waterfowl are still extremely necessary. But what is the meaning of reincarnation, and even the introduction of a new caliber? There is also a decent solution in the form of "Octopus", and the use in the name - ACS is more correctly defined. There is "Bakhcha", quite a good combat module, it is possible, on a single base, and more protected, but it can be made floating and not even longer than modernize the PT. Here and the unification will be normal. Finally, there is simply "Vienna" and "Nona".
    1. Prapor-527
      Prapor-527 16 October 2013 11: 33
      Just an exhaustive comment! hi "The Moor has done his job, the Moor can rest" ...
  8. Akim
    Akim 16 October 2013 11: 02
    I agree with the svp67 и avt - the tank has outlived itself. The BMP-3 and vehicles based on it also have good stability. You yourself now do not put in 412 engine from Merce and power steering.
  9. Taoist
    Taoist 16 October 2013 11: 02
    Well, the modernization with the installation of such a gun makes sense to me ... Unlike the options of Vienna and Nona, which are more likely mortars than guns, this gun has a high initial projectile speed and trajectory flatness - and in combination with automation, as a result, we have very high fire performance at satisfactory power and good fragmentation effect of the projectile. Of course, it will not penetrate a modern tank directly into the forehead, but it will disrupt dynamic protection from it and all guiding and target designation devices will be guaranteed to roll out. The same fate awaits the antenna economy of AZ complexes. Well, what can be done with a deaf and blinded tank, and so it is clear. Thus, the modernized 76 can be an interesting option as a patrol reconnaissance vehicle, providing combat protection for marching columns and a high-quality first-wave landing vehicle.
  10. avt
    avt 16 October 2013 11: 14
    Quote: Taoist
    Unlike the options of Vienna and Nona, which are more likely mortars than cannons, the given gun has a high initial velocity of the projectile and the trajectory is flat - and in combination with automation, as a result, we have very high fire performance with satisfactory power and good fragmentation effect of the projectile. Of course, it will not penetrate a modern tank directly into the forehead, but it will disrupt dynamic protection from it and all guiding and target designation devices will be guaranteed to roll out. The same fate awaits the antenna economy of AZ complexes. Well, what can be done with a deaf and blinded tank, and so it is clear.

    request That is, if 120 mm hits, everything will remain in place and will function properly !? Or the fragmentation power of 57mm is an order of magnitude higher? All the same, it is probably necessary to compare with 30mm, but in this case ours worked, "Bakhchu", which is much more thoughtful than a simple increase in calibers on machines such as BMP. ...
    1. Taoist
      Taoist 16 October 2013 19: 54
      What is "trajectory flatness" and how does it affect accuracy and ease of aiming (especially on moving and small targets) are you aware of? Or tell? And how is this flatness related to the initial velocity of the projectile and how the range of the so-called "direct shot"?
  11. Ka-52
    Ka-52 16 October 2013 12: 08
    Summarize: laughing

    1) PT76B - a good car, quite a level, in the troops needed.

    2) PT76B - an outdated unit, there are other better "substitutes".

    The Ministry of Defense is your choice! fellow
    1. svp67
      svp67 16 October 2013 12: 12
      Quote: Ka-52
      1) PT76B - a good car, quite a level, in the troops needed.

      The first is "true", the second is "conditionally true", the third is "not true ..."

      Quote: Ka-52
      PT76B is an outdated unit, there are other better "substitutes".


      That's the whole conclusion ...
  12. castle
    castle 16 October 2013 12: 35
    Good health to all.
    The PT-76 tank has regularly served its purpose, honor and glory to him. I think there are now more suitable platforms for installing a new combat module with the S-60 cannon. (Although, if necessary, the cart can be resuscitated. Without laughing. In Switzerland, I also saw antediluvian weapons that they are armed with. Just in case.) The S-60 cannon is very interesting. With such a caliber, its combat capabilities can be increased several times, making it capable of firing shells with a programmable fuse and not only at air targets. But the price of such a combat module, and shells too, will be several times higher. Here you have to think, consider.
  13. Avenger711
    Avenger711 16 October 2013 12: 39
    BMP-3 has long been, enough to force a museum exhibit.
  14. Alew
    Alew 16 October 2013 14: 09
    On the same base they also made UR-67 with six cylinder diesel engines. to overcome minefields. article plus.
  15. klirens
    klirens 16 October 2013 14: 38
    In Zhitomir, in the training regiment of military unit 59801, stood on the pedestal PT-76. Handsome man!
  16. Owl
    Owl 16 October 2013 17: 46
    Pensioner, gloriously "worked", now on "well-deserved rest".
  17. Ro-man
    Ro-man 16 October 2013 18: 23
    My friend served on the PT-76 in Vietnam (Kamran) in the 90s. He told me that he drowned several times in it during the landing. According to him, during the exercises it was necessary to shoot, sailing to the shore, when firing, there was recoil and glands as a consequence of recoil let water through.
    1. MIX58
      MIX58 16 October 2013 19: 19
      Quote: Ro-Man
      My friend served on the PT-76 in Vietnam (Kamran) in the 90s. He told me that he drowned several times in it during the landing. According to him, during the exercises it was necessary to shoot, sailing to the shore, when firing, there was recoil and glands as a consequence of recoil let water through.

      ... Vietnam ... Camran ... 1990 - years ... you take

      to the navigator .. write down the point where such ..fishes grow .. which you and your friend --- ate :))) ..... In PT-76 ... and all armored vehicles (PT-50pk ... PT-50 ps ... etc ... I don’t want to list everything THE RULE of this base is worthy ....! one shilka ... what is it worth !!!) is in the engine compartment (it is sewn from the fighting compartment .. .and it is there that the oil seals you mentioned are located ((((...!) ... has such a POWERFUL pump that even with a partial depressurization of the "sub-engine" hatch, it can easily cope with the water flow ..... PT-76 ... and all armored personnel carriers ... on this platform - DO NOT sink ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (based on my practice of operating this PLATFORM) ... I'm a fanatic PT-76 .... but I rode (in the composition ....) a lot and I respect this car !!!!!!!!!
      1. Ro-man
        Ro-man 16 October 2013 20: 22
        I don’t eat such mushrooms :). What I heard from him once, I asked about it. If this cannot be, then I am only glad.
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      3. 505506
        505506 17 October 2013 14: 23
        At the beginning of 90 (90-92) he served in Kamchatka, and my friends at the PM, were engaged in the export of liquidated bases in Kamrani, mat. parts and people. And despite the official closing of the base at 00, ours have not used it since 92, the Vietnamese requested money. Maybe I have the wrong info? Tell me!
      4. Ro-man
        Ro-man 31 October 2013 15: 25
        I found my friend in classmates and reminded him of that conversation. Here's what he replied to me: "Roma, trust me, I do not participate in the forums, I served on it from 91 to 93, maybe then it was, but with a manual pump when shooting from a swimming pool, you can only pump your sweat. But I must tell you what in 90s, when there was a decline in the Soviet Navy, the equipment was not equipped and was not properly serviced, I had it like that (he means that he was drowning) and there was not enough **** sealant, but the fact that there were pumps but they are manual as hell is required for normal work .. "
  18. Technologist
    Technologist 16 October 2013 18: 31
    The right machine at the time.
  19. cesar65
    cesar65 16 October 2013 19: 31
    I read this article about 10 years ago in the journal "Technics and Armament"
  20. cesar65
    cesar65 16 October 2013 19: 34
    Most of all I liked the art module, such a gun is needed instead of 30-mm, and the high-explosive action is more, and more powerful.
  21. Pimply
    Pimply 17 October 2013 01: 29
    I wonder why so many people live only in the past.
    1. Massik
      Massik 17 October 2013 02: 37
      Well, not quite in the past, the article is at least 12 years old, but I would be glad for such armored vehicles, if not at all. It is quite possible to put on conservation, than stupidly cut; and then make a helpless gesture when there is no new money either and the old ones in metal are lost.
  22. Strashila
    Strashila 17 October 2013 07: 08
    The most interesting description and comparison of the S-60 cannon ... and this should be put on the Terminator ... this and lightly armored vehicles will smash and support the infantry in the fortifications of the enemy.