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Forgotten "School"

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Among the Crimean hills, not far from the Jabanak gully, is the former military town of Shkolniy. Until the 90s of the last century, high-end space communications specialists lived and worked there. The settlement was founded in 1957. Together with the construction of a complex of buildings and facilities for space communications, residential houses, a kindergarten, a shop, a school, a boiler room were built. The garrison belonged to the military space forces of the USSR and on its territory housed several military units. The village was considered an elite secret object and had the code name "Simferopol-28". October 4 1957, it was from here that the first communication session with the first artificial satellite of the Earth was made. Since then, October 4 is considered the day of the village School.

The Soviet Union had 15 similar settlements, which were part of the command-measuring complex of the country's long-distance space communications. The center manager was located in Golitsyno near Moscow. The main function of the measuring complex was with the help of receiving-transmitting devices to receive information and control the operation of spacecraft in orbit. The Soviet space grouping, which includes 180 objects, slightly, but still exceeded the number of American (120 objects). Each of the stations of ground-based space communications had its own goals and objectives, but the main of them were the conduct of radio intelligence and the taking of photographs.

During Soviet times, 98% satellites had a military purpose. Ground measuring station No. 10 (NPC-10) in the village of Shkolny was quite tightly loaded with work. From here, the flight control of all Soviet spacecraft was carried out. It was in the NPC-10 that interferometric devices intercepted the signals from the US military satellites and tracked their orbits. Particularly noteworthy is the role of the garrison of the village of Shkolny in the implementation of the Luna and Lunokhod programs. The specialists of NPC-10 took the first image of the lunar surface transmitted by the Luna-9 spacecraft. On the territory of the village a lunodrome was equipped, on which the Lunokhod chassis were tested and their crews were trained.

The complexity of the training was that the role of the operators of moon rovers required specialists who did not have any driving skills. This requirement was due to the fact that the accidental error of the operator associated with previously acquired control reflexes could result in a catastrophe for the moon rover. The lunod rover was delivered to the lunodrom. Operators worked on his skills in controlling the apparatus when driving over rough terrain. The Lunokhod Control Center was also located in Shkolnaya.

The specialists of NPC-10 operated the flights of spacecraft of the Mars and Venus series. The operators of Shkolny’s ground station for space communications took the first images of the surface of Venus from the Venus-13 spacecraft.

It was in this village, among the Crimean hills, that the Mission Control Center of manned stations and spacecraft, including Soyuz-Apolon, was located.

The successful and effective work of the School Garrison specialists was awarded with the award - the Red Banner of the USSR Rocket Forces.

The ground measuring station No. 10 was visited by many leaders of the Government of the Soviet Union, prominent scientists, designers and industrialists, as well as astronauts. Thus, on August 11 of 1962, the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the country, N.S. Khrushchev, where a radio telephone communication session was held with cosmonauts P. Popovich and A. Nikolayev, who were aboard the spacecraft Vostok-4 and Vostok-3.

The garrison servicemen participated in the implementation of the Buran space shuttle program.

Unfortunately, after the collapse of the Union, an independent Ukraine did not need the ground measuring point No. XXUMX. Most of the military, who refused to take the Ukrainian oath, left for Russia.

And although in 1991, the station conducted daily 50 communication sessions with spacecraft, the collapse of military units was already predetermined. In 1991, the hardware was first dismantled. Then, under the guise of preservation, the remaining equipment was destroyed or scrapped. After there was no gas, no electricity, no heat, no telephone communication in the village, the mass exodus of residents from the School School began. The cost of housing fell to $ 2 thousand. Those of the retirees who did not manage to get an apartment in Simferopol after leaving the army remained in the village. As a result, today 70% of the population of the village are people not associated with the service on the NPC-10, and those who bought housing here for little money. Nobody needed a schoolboy, neither the military nor the government. Former prosperous town fell into poverty. Now only the huge dish of the receiving and transmitting antenna THA-400 reminds of the glorious past. The fate of this remaining property of the remote space communications station is not enviable - it will either be handed over for scrap or sold to some company.

It must be said that the Russian space complex quickly recovered the loss of NPC-10. Moreover, in recent years, a new and modern equipment has been put into operation, allowing it to perform its tasks with the help of a small number of specialists. For example, in the space unit stationed in Kolpashevo, all the work is performed by 5 people, whereas, as before, 70 servicemen served here.

Now life in the village is gradually being restored. The housing stock and infrastructure facilities require capital repairs, but neither the citizens nor the local authorities have money for this. But people are hoping for a better future. The plans of the village council include the construction of a sports and recreation complex. But the biggest problem for the residents of the School was unemployment. Most of the working-age population is forced to go to work in Simferopol every day.

School Garrison is one of the pages. stories great country. Veterans of the military space forces believe that it would be fair to preserve the memory of the NPC-10 for posterity - to create in the School Museum, telling about the history of space exploration and the feat of Soviet people who participated in space programs. The veterans themselves began to design the museum, where unique historical facts of space exploration and the development of space technology will be exhibited.











Materials used:
http://2000.net.ua/2000/derzhava/realii/93454
http://www.seltru.crimea.ua/?p=2722
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%EA%EE%EB%FC%ED%EE%E5_(%CA%F0%FB%EC)
http://www.travellers.ru/city-shkolnoe-(krym)
http://www.roadplanet.ru/home/reports/967/?printversion
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  1. Jager
    Jager 15 October 2013 06: 57 New
    42
    The whole tragedy of our Soviet republics in the penultimate photo.
    And there will be a grandfather who turned gray and grew old early to tell his grandson a story about how he drove the lunar rover. And the grandson will not believe and will consider the grandfather completely out of his mind - this cannot be! After chewing snickers after watching "Saving Private Ryan" he will know for sure that this is impossible among these ruins.
    Something struck me as a Russian longing, bitter after viewing the penultimate photo.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 15 October 2013 10: 51 New
      14
      It's a shame that Gorbachev and co. still at large, and it looks like they will remain. National hero. Judas.
      1. alone
        alone 15 October 2013 11: 36 New
        +9
        there are many and many such forgotten towns throughout the former union. the humpbacked man did his best to please the striped
        1. Heccrbq .2
          Heccrbq .2 15 October 2013 21: 33 New
          -3
          It turns out that the Aiser’s pig slaughtered a Russian guy, the field marshal, when will you take your beast home?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 15 October 2013 22: 49 New
            +4
            Quote: Heccrbq .2
            It turns out that the Aiser’s pig slaughtered a Russian guy, the field marshal, when will you take your beast home?

            You are wrong with this person. stop
        2. Our
          Our 6 January 2014 20: 21 New
          +1
          Damn him. To live and see how people suffer from your deeds, hear how people curse you, see how the country was afraid and respected the whole world is no longer there and then there remains a miserable semblance of a superpower IF IF A MAN HAS DONE IT IS NOT CONSCIOUS AFTER YEARS UNDERSTANDING (20 YEARS A SMALL TIME) YOU MAY HAVE TO REPENT. BUT THAT IS AN EVERYTHING AND WAITING FOR VVP.SAM WOULD HAVE A SIP OF OVERCREATING CREATIVES
      2. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 15 October 2013 15: 28 New
        +1
        It's a shame to look at these photos painfully. A fragment of a great country. I feel sorry for people. Russian land, but we can’t do anything.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 15 October 2013 21: 02 New
          +1
          We can do it if we want!
      3. internatio
        internatio 10 February 2014 12: 20 New
        0
        Gorbachev and others like him - a worked-out map of the West. People of the past. And they have a place in the past. Live in the present! Even if it is not as we would like. And fight! Always fight for what you strive for. Moreover, the main thing is unification, consolidation. Just what the West and the USA are most afraid of. And only in unity can we survive.
    2. internatio
      internatio 10 February 2014 12: 12 New
      0
      Yes, it is very painful to see such consequences of the destruction of the USSR, its best achievements in the world. Especially in their native land. But there is a weak hope that the grandson will believe his grandfather and continue his traditions. If there is a grandson, if he is able to listen, if ...
      To see the current Sevastopol is also painful. And Balaklava. We, Crimeans, still hope (and work!) On the TS, and in the future - on a new powerful state "from the southern mountains to the northern seas."
      Only here the mistakes of decades of politics of politicians are even more painful to see - you need to work with the population, people, with children - then there will be faith in tomorrow and in the country, which we Crimeans need.
  2. biglow
    biglow 15 October 2013 07: 00 New
    0
    until Russia returns its original lands, decay and desolation reign on them ...
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 15 October 2013 08: 28 New
      -3
      Quote: biglow
      until Russia returns its original lands, decay and desolation reign on them ...


      Through the efforts of the lower forms of life - Svidomites, Wu is gradually turning into one big such "School".
    2. Dusk
      Dusk 15 October 2013 10: 01 New
      -3
      What kind of land ?? what
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 15 October 2013 10: 24 New
        +8
        Quote: Dusk
        What kind of land ??


        Those lands that were conquered by Russian blood from any Turks unwashed, those that are inhabited by Russian people, those where children RUSSIAN people in schools are trying to instill that they are not Russians, but some kind of invented by the Pshek Swabians and the Bolsheviks "Okraintsy", those lands where, for example, even speakers on "RUSSIAN(!!!) the radio "gurgles on the vile and god-loathing movna of Galitsai cress subpolyaks.
        Is I available explained?
        1. In the book
          In the book 15 October 2013 13: 07 New
          +8
          With this attitude, it is unlikely that the inhabitants of these lands will consider you (and your kind) brothers.
        2. GastaClaus69
          GastaClaus69 15 October 2013 22: 40 New
          +1
          Available, fucking fascist !!!
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 15 October 2013 23: 02 New
            -2
            Quote: GastaClaus69
            Available, fucking fascist !!!

            Go home from the Russian land, the Bandera bitback.
            1. GastaClaus69
              GastaClaus69 15 October 2013 23: 26 New
              +3
              Bandera live only in the expired brains of undernourished !! but on on OUR land people speak the languages ​​they want and live peacefully, only all sorts of things ... they won’t calm down in any way !! little blood has been shed over the past centuries, still want ??
              1. Hudo
                Hudo 15 October 2013 23: 57 New
                +1
                Quote: GastaClaus69
                and on on OUR land people speak the languages ​​they want


                Dear loser! Your land in Poland is first. Secondly, Ukrainian-speaking people are looked at as foreigners (Donbass), and it’s not worth talking about Crimea.

                Quote: GastaClaus69
                little blood has been shed over the past centuries, still want ??

                Based on the calculation of the consumption of table salt per capita U, a population of 52 million in 1991. just over 30 left - so what about "blood was shed" You'd better keep your mouth shut in the Turkish-style shalwar, which is propelled on the Maydauns - this is purely Svidomo's "merit" and "achievement." That is why the authorities are trying to conduct a census on the territory of U, because such a decline cannot be covered by any administrative resources, by any falsifications.
                1. GastaClaus69
                  GastaClaus69 16 October 2013 00: 31 New
                  0
                  Quote: Hudo
                  Your land in Poland is first.

                  And in Poland, too, they managed to grab and seize Peremyshlsky land, Lemkovschina, Podlasie, Posanie, Kholmshchina and Sokalshchina (Curzon line). Alas, this is a fact, nothing can be done about it.
                  Quote: Hudo
                  Secondly, Ukrainian-speaking people are looked at as foreigners (Donbass), and Crimea is not worth talking about.

                  On the territory of Ukraine, the European Charter of Regional or Minority Languages ​​is in force, I myself speak Russian, but this does not prevent me from knowing Ukrainian as well as English and Spanish! I was in Lviv more than once, and spoke Russian on principle, I wanted to see the "Bendera" people, there were no problems in communication, even no one looked crooked !! Their attitude to a person depends on what kind of person he is, and not what language he speaks !! And if the Donbass-Crimean fad on this issue, then if you please.
                  Quote: Hudo
                  From that power, the census on the territory of U is being conducted, because you can’t cover such a decrease with any administrative resources, no falsifications.

                  Let me tell you a secret: The All-Ukrainian population census will be in 2014. Then we will know everything!
                  Quote: Hudo
                  keeping quiet in the Turkish-style shalvars prokukat on Maydauns is a purely Svidomite "merit" and "achievement"

                  And also Ukraine and Turkey are going to organize a free trade zone, and by the way, since when did Yanukovych become "svidomim"? He's Donbass !!
                  1. smirnov
                    smirnov 16 October 2013 00: 59 New
                    0
                    What do you have against Donbass?
                    1. GastaClaus69
                      GastaClaus69 16 October 2013 21: 13 New
                      0
                      Come past the road, don’t sell pies.
                  2. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 16 October 2013 10: 05 New
                    0
                    Quote: GastaClaus69
                    By the way, since when did Yanukovych become "svidomim"? He's Donbass !!
                    Ever smell the big money. Tymoshenko - also from Dnepropetrovsk ... request
                    Quote: GastaClaus69
                    I myself speak Russian, but that does not stop me from knowing Ukrainian, as well as English and Spanish!
                    If you suddenly manage to "lean" against a large government trough, all languages, except for language, will be forgotten immediately and forever, tested on thousands of "drivers' hands" wassat
                    1. GastaClaus69
                      GastaClaus69 16 October 2013 19: 54 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Misantrop
                      If you suddenly manage to "lean" against a large government trough, all languages, except for language, will be forgotten immediately and forever, tested on thousands of "drivers' hands" wassat

                      Every month I get a salary from the state, but for some reason I haven’t forgotten, maybe the matter is in me, is something wrong with me, doctor? what
              2. Misantrop
                Misantrop 16 October 2013 09: 59 New
                -1
                Quote: GastaClaus69
                and on on OUR land people speak the languages ​​they want

                And who dictates to them which languages ​​they WANT to speak? Aren't they the descendants of those who, hand in hand with the German invaders, carried the "new order" to these lands? And as for the spilled blood, there will be more of it on these hands, these were not combat line units, but punishers ...

                Well, about the freedom of choice of language, one small example. Across ALL Ukraine, drug annotations in pharmacies are performed in TWO languages. EXCEPT Crimea, here - ONLY in mov. I don’t know WHOSE it is there that the order actually acts, but ... fact. You will be in the Crimea, do not take a few minutes, make sure personally
                1. GastaClaus69
                  GastaClaus69 16 October 2013 20: 03 New
                  0
                  Quote: Misantrop
                  Aren't they the descendants of those who, hand in hand with the German invaders, carried the "new order" to these lands?

                  This topic is very extensive, please specify who exactly had in mind!
                  Quote: Misantrop
                  Well, about the freedom of choice of language, one small example. Across ALL Ukraine, drug annotations in pharmacies are performed in TWO languages. EXCEPT Crimea, here - ONLY in mov. I don’t know WHOSE it is there that the order actually acts, but ... fact.

                  Looks like you in the Crimean parliament got the elusive Joe !! You never know, maybe the Tatars tried not to you, not to us, who knows.
                  Quote: Misantrop
                  You will be in the Crimea, do not take a few minutes, make sure personally

                  Next summer!
                  1. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 16 October 2013 20: 24 New
                    +1
                    Quote: GastaClaus69
                    Next summer!
                    Here, first look at your own eyes, and then you will be minus.
                    Quote: GastaClaus69
                    Looks like you in the Crimean parliament got the elusive Joe !!
                    If wound up, it is not in the Crimea, higher. For this chip is far from the first year
                    Quote: GastaClaus69
                    please specify who exactly had in mind!
                    Punishers. They came to the Crimea with the Germans dohrena, of all stripes and colors. Almost no one saw them at the front, but in the rear against the unarmed population they showed themselves ...
                    Quote: GastaClaus69
                    Every month I get a salary from the state

                    And how many hryvnias do you start with? When General Moskal (a Westerner, oddly enough) commanded the police on the peninsula (even before the deputy), he was also quite an adequate, sane person. I can judge this, since then I met with him personally. But later ... sad
                    1. GastaClaus69
                      GastaClaus69 16 October 2013 21: 47 New
                      0
                      Quote: Misantrop
                      Here, first look at your own eyes, and then you will be minus.

                      I can upset you, it was not me who was minus one. I even decided to throw a plus, but you didn’t really like someone!
                      Quote: Misantrop
                      If wound up, it is not in the Crimea, higher. For this chip is far from the first year

                      There are enough sick people!
                      Quote: Misantrop
                      Punishers. They came to the Crimea with the Germans dohrena, of all stripes and colors. Almost no one saw them at the front, but in the rear against the unarmed population they showed themselves ...

                      And you remember what happened during the civil war in the south and Crimea, the same territory simultaneously entered several newly formed states at once, and there were no less atrocities then, there are always enough ub..dkov! This is an axiom of real life.
                      Quote: Misantrop
                      And how many hryvnias do you start with? When General Moskal (a Westerner, oddly enough) commanded the police on the peninsula (even before the deputy), he was also quite an adequate, sane person. I can judge this, since then I met with him personally. And hereafter ... sad

                      A person of this rank simply merges into the society that surrounds him so that he would not be stolen and that’s all.
                  2. internatio
                    internatio 10 February 2014 12: 36 New
                    0
                    This is not true, although it is not always possible to find medicines with annotations in two languages. So it is not better in Zaporozhye, but many times worse. There are even less schools with Russian-language teaching. But the Tatars have nothing to do with it! In Ukraine, many were lazy, some hands dropped, and there is no one to achieve human life.
          2. Our
            Our 6 January 2014 20: 30 New
            0
            - Why don't you love me?
            -so you're in the face of a gift to me and spat in the additive and was naughty
            -So what ?
            - as it hurts and offends me all the more so for nothing
            -I don’t give a damn, I’m the smartest, I’m the most correct and you should think so, and kiss my ass. We taught you how to read, to wash, and in general.
            SO LOOK FOR THINKING BEHAVIOR OF RUSSIAN NATIONALISTS IN RESPECT TO NEIGHBORS AND NETWORK THEN WHAT WE DO NOT LOVE US
        3. Our
          Our 6 January 2014 20: 24 New
          +1
          And how after your words to the ordinary Ukrainian to respect those like you?
  3. Echo
    Echo 15 October 2013 09: 07 New
    +5
    All this can and should be restored. But first you need to kick out of the Crimea (as well as from all of Little Russia and New Russia) organized crime groups Kaklo-power.
    1. Samy
      Samy 15 October 2013 09: 50 New
      0
      No one and no reason already. The scale is not the same ....: - ((
    2. In the book
      In the book 15 October 2013 13: 09 New
      0
      My dear, while the word "Little Russia", and not "Ukraine", sounds in your minds, do not demand brotherly love from your neighbors.
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 15 October 2013 17: 54 New
        +6
        I wanted to write something about the wording
        Little Russia and New Russia
        , before this was not an insult, one of the historical names of Ukraine used in the 19th century.
        In general, something like that hi
      2. Vlaleks48
        Vlaleks48 15 October 2013 21: 40 New
        +3
        The main thing, guys, is that the "Tatar Emirate" does not sound on these lands!
      3. Misantrop
        Misantrop 15 October 2013 23: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: Libr
        My dear, while the word "Little Russia" will sound in your minds, not "Ukraine"
        My dear, since when did the historical name sound insulting? IMHO, of course, but Svidomo's sense of national pride already has all the signs of a cancerous tumor. It has already eaten the brain and continues to grow due to all other organs ... sad
        1. Akim
          Akim 16 October 2013 02: 20 New
          -1
          Quote: Misantrop
          My dear, since when did the historical name sound insulting?

          Since it stopped being used. Or was this word used in Soviet times? Want to restore historical justice, start with yourself.
        2. vanaheym
          vanaheym 16 October 2013 04: 29 New
          0
          Using this word, dear, you emphasize your imperial status, which accordingly does not give you the right to talk about the friendship of peoples and the like.
          For Ymperetz is much worse than calling Ukrainians by the name of their state.
          We do not call you "Muscovites", for historically Russia was Kiev, and not St. Petersburg, Moscow or Novgorod.
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop 16 October 2013 09: 44 New
            0
            Quote: vanaheym
            Using this word, dear, you emphasize your imperial status, which accordingly does not give you the right to talk about the friendship of peoples and the like.
            I repeat once again, it is time for you to be treated. This is not an imperial status, but just a specification of the territory in question. The words "Slobozhanshchina", "Transcarpathia", etc. Do you also cause hysteria? lol Not at all. But then any mention of the territory with the prefix "ross" - and ... foam on the lips ... laughing
            Quote: Akim
            Since it stopped being used. Or was this word used in Soviet times?
            Let me remind you that in Soviet times, the Cossacks also tried their best to hush up. Is it now an insult to call a Cossack any of the inhabitants of the Zaporizhzhya region? laughing And the fact that once the capital of the kingdom of the Amazons was located somewhere in the Odessa region doesn’t hurt the naked feeling of national pride too much? what wassat

            No, guys, this is different. The only thing is that subconsciously the Svidomites cannot get away from the feeling that they acted like a pig in relation to all other peoples (including the empire, by the way, what is THIS?) Really the evil Muscovites kept the proud in slavery for centuries inhabitants of the Black Sea steppes, that now ANY mention of this causes indignant cries? And the division into "master-slave" was based on nationality (like skin color in the USA)? Figurines, and you yourself know about this best ...
            1. Akim
              Akim 16 October 2013 10: 44 New
              0
              Quote: Misantrop
              And the fact that once the capital of the kingdom of the Amazons was located somewhere in the Odessa region doesn’t hurt the naked feeling of national pride too much?

              No. This was and it became history. The woman with one tit has not seen and no one demands to call either Scythia or Sarmatia. This is a thing of the past. So Malarussia, transformed into a phrase with the phrase Malaya Rus, must also live out its age.
              1. svp67
                svp67 16 October 2013 10: 46 New
                0
                Quote: Akim
                It was

                Welcome. hi You can talk a little on an abstract topic.
              2. Cristall
                Cristall 18 October 2013 01: 29 New
                0
                Support.
                I note that New Russia and Little Russia are even emphasized by them as an edification about part of the Republic of Ingushetia! Although the name Little Russia is much younger than the same Getman and other names.
                Such as Tavria, for example, and others ... no one is against historical names, but in the context of time, we are Ukraine, we were the Ukrainian SSR (Ukrainian social republic, not the Little Russian social republic) why return to Little Russia? Well, we do not like this name, how do you - "Muscovy and Muscovites"
                And we really do not like how Ukrainians are called here on the site - "kaklami" and "ukrami" ..
                it would be better if they called Rusyns - once you love the historical names.
                The request to perceive, at least not older than the USSR, historical names. And then I did not see the names New France - instead of Canada, Prussia instead of Germany and other variations.
  4. Akim
    Akim 15 October 2013 09: 40 New
    12
    School? No - Moscow region!

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    1. Vital 33
      Vital 33 15 October 2013 10: 35 New
      +9
      Nah, uv. Akim, these photos you will not pass anyone))).
      And it’s even useless to prove something, here they will prove to you like twice two that "kakly" and "svidomity" are all about ... rali. And an attempt to explain that such objects are (unfortunately) unnecessary for Ukraine will not help. And the fact that there will be more such objects in Russia is delicately hushed up))).
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 15 October 2013 10: 57 New
        10
        Yes, listen to the members of the forum, and you understand, the American aspirations have come true to quarrel the People. crying Who are you going to fight with? Only enemies win from our squabble.
      2. Misantrop
        Misantrop 15 October 2013 23: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: Vital 33
        And an attempt to explain to Ukraine that such facilities (unfortunately) are unnecessary will not help.
        Do not list which objects NEED this authority? Here the bunker in London is necessary to the extreme ... lol
        1. Vital 33
          Vital 33 16 October 2013 14: 14 New
          0
          And that Ukraine has a space group ??? Or do we regularly launch astronauts into orbit? Why do we need a LONG SPACE COMMUNICATION? Just to be? And if we ignore the idiotic sarcasm, can you anything specific on the topic? At least according to the photos given by Akim? Or are you "in trend" ???
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      3. Our
        Our 6 January 2014 22: 46 New
        0
        yes there are them everywhere and unfortunately a lot
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  5. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 15 October 2013 10: 29 New
    +6
    Lord, how long will they destroy Russia, their rulers? ... or not your own? By whose will they destroy everything that our FATHER and GRANDFUL left to us? Really, to fill your own pockets, at the expense of the whole people, and then somewhere with amers or somewhere else, at the expense of your (?) Country, to build a super-duper stadium, residential or hotel complex, this is PATRIOTISM, LOVE for the Motherland ? Or for the Russian people like that necessary and "prestigious"that some" patriot "maintains ANOTHER sports club, with money, from the deflated riches of the Russian Land, which, in theory, belong to the whole people? "and send them to logging for 10-15 years. These GUS Abramovichs, pro-Rohorovs, etc., no longer know where to" shove "from the bowels of the Russian land, they are already creeping out of their ears ...
  6. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 15 October 2013 11: 49 New
    +3
    Come on, arrange a verbal skirmish! Everywhere this happens — and with Amers and with us. Why go on insults. Life goes on in a circle-time will come and unite in a new way — we are Ukrainians and Belarusians ONE PEOPLE !!! What military towns abandoned - Some restoration is more expensive than building new ones. The only thing is that they threw PEOPLE - for such a thing, directly onto the lamp post
  7. In the reeds
    In the reeds 15 October 2013 11: 53 New
    +1
    On the way from Simferopol to Yevpatoriya. For Gress and Aeroflotsky. Every time I put off the trip for the next year ... Twenty years passed
    1. atalef
      atalef 15 October 2013 12: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: In the reeds
      On the way from Simferopol to Yevpatoriya. For Gress and Aeroflotsky. Every time I put off the trip for the next year ... Twenty years passed

      rf 34436, (Yevpatoriya-19) dmb 90m, head of DES-3000, then it was a huge part, everything worked, what pride was for the Soviet space, everyone destroyed, but when it was
  8. Ivan79
    Ivan79 15 October 2013 12: 27 New
    +4
    The first photo is very symbolic. The fragments of the once powerful, strong, Great country, nobody needs and are drowning in heaps of garbage. All this is sad.
  9. Echo
    Echo 15 October 2013 13: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: Libr
    My dear, while the word "Little Russia", and not "Ukraine", sounds in your minds, do not demand brotherly love from your neighbors.

    And nobody demands it, for the love of organized crime groups Kaklo-power is not needed, and for nothing. Our people live there - we need them. This land is ours - and it must belong to Russia. And the power there is alien, Russophobic, specially cultivated by the enemy, and it will never love us, because we are its destruction. They are not needed. Let them go. Or we will leave them.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 16 October 2013 04: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Echo
      This land is ours - and it should belong to Russia

      Why would it be a fright? You are there at home with China to drink the Far East to start.
      Yes, and it’s not Russophobic power there, but the population itself is more wary and wary, who will look at this kind of person * differently and think that let the Slavic brothers live on their own, and the further - the more ideal. Like the Serbs also decided.
  10. In the book
    In the book 15 October 2013 13: 59 New
    -6
    Regarding the power in Ukraine, I agree with you.

    But about this:
    Quote: Echo
    This land is ours - and it should belong to Russia


    ... sorry, you are too much No.
    1. Ols76
      Ols76 16 October 2013 05: 10 New
      +4
      And I Concerning the Crimean land I do not agree with you, this is the original Russian land which, after Khrushchev’s stupid come, passed to Ukraine. The land is Russian and it must belong to Russia. I lived there and I know that the majority of Crimeans adhere to this opinion!
      1. 505506
        505506 16 October 2013 08: 45 New
        +1
        I fully subscribe to it. And those who disagree do not have a single argument. Only a reference to the decision of the person who, sincerely believing in the communist future of the country, gave Crimea. And those who remember that in the USSR the division into republics was purely nominal (I am not touching the Baltic states, and the territories annexed in 1939) and most citizens felt like residents ONE GREAT country. But when EBN was giving away the sovereignty, he "forgot" to return Russia its lands.
  11. Echo
    Echo 15 October 2013 14: 43 New
    +8
    Quote: Libr
    ... sorry, you are too much

    As for me, as a Sevastopol resident, I think that this is not "too much", but shamefully little. Crimea, Little Russia and Novorossia are the Russian land, and it should be with Russia, and not with some sort of "independent-non-profit" Alliance sucked out of the Habsburg finger. And I will do everything in my power to kick off You can consider me a separatist, but I consider Kaklo-power as separatists and traitors to the organized criminal group, and if I have the opportunity, I will not regret any of them.
  12. Adzhimushkay
    Adzhimushkay 15 October 2013 14: 51 New
    +6
    Gentlemen, maybe someone studied or knows about the Bagerovo Flight School in the Crimea. There SUCH !!!! runway !!!! just a giant. For many years it was abandoned and what the hell happened to her, and now the thieves' bitch has been dismantled into plates. Tell Putin to buy there, it will be 0.01% of its real value. Well, it’s just painful to watch ..
    1. morpogr
      morpogr 15 October 2013 15: 07 New
      +1
      Putin will buy and your government will not let anything go there, it will set the bill for housing and communal services and it will be better to ask for money to build a new one in Russia. As long as your government looks west, it makes no sense to consider buying something in Ukraine.
      1. wk-083
        wk-083 15 October 2013 22: 00 New
        0
        That's right!
    2. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 15 October 2013 15: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Adzhimushkay
      Tell Putin to buy there, it will be 0.01% of its real value.


      They would say if they could, but he wanted to listen! He has more important things to do - everyone needs to please! Evil is not enough!
  13. mithridate
    mithridate 15 October 2013 15: 02 New
    +2
    The Ukrainian boa constrictor absorbed a lot, but could not digest, that is, preserve and increase. Here is a natural result, to the delight of American "friends"
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 16 October 2013 04: 47 New
      0
      There are a bunch of neglected Russian military facilities. They absolutely do not bother anyone, because the log is not visible in their eyes. But the launched space communications facility in Ukraine, despite the fact that it does not have a space constellation, is a tragedy, yes.
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 16 October 2013 10: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: vanaheym
        a neglected space communications facility in Ukraine, despite the fact that it has no space constellation, is a tragedy, yes
        Latin American countries have a large space constellation, what have radio telescopes been working there for decades? The space communication and observation system is not needed ONLY for someone who has never lifted his piglet from the trough. Like this - yes, it’s not required request And the worst thing is that any of the Ukrainian oligarchs spends significantly more on any garbage per year than they need to invest in that equipment and garrison services. Moreover - ONE time, then net profit will go further
        1. vanaheym
          vanaheym 16 October 2013 18: 32 New
          0
          Ukraine has enough scientific radio telescopes that are quite busy with their business, in particular: UTR-2, RT-70, P-400, ADU-1000, RT-22, KTNA-200. But Ukraine does not have space objects, and therefore there is no point in regularly pouring money into the space communications station and the garrison service.
          Speaking about South America, the Arecibo radio telescope is the US National Center for Astronomy and Ionosphere, and ALMA is built for the money of the US National Radio Astronomy Observatory and the European Southern Observatory.
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop 16 October 2013 18: 44 New
            0
            Quote: vanaheym
            Speaking about South America, the Arecibo radio telescope is the US National Center for Astronomy and Ionosphere, and ALMA is built for the money of the US National Radio Astronomy Observatory and the European Southern Observatory.
            Interesting logic. If the Americans didn’t build, then you can break it. Well, the fact that
            Quote: vanaheym
            here Ukraine has no space objects
            Is this an object for pride? The very country that, even 20 years ago, made the best space rockets on the planet ... What else will we start to be proud of?
            1. vanaheym
              vanaheym 16 October 2013 20: 27 New
              0
              Quote: Misantrop
              Is this an object for pride? The very country that, even 20 years ago, made the best space rockets on the planet ... What else will we start to be proud of?

              The Ukrainian design bureau "Yuzhnoye" still makes and launches excellent rockets.
              But the first directly Ukrainian geostationary satellite "Lybid" will be launched into orbit only this year, and it certainly will not be compatible with the ancient TNA-400 system, which in turn served as a model for the development of the more advanced P-400 radio telescope, which is quite excellent continues to work in Ukraine.
              By the way, this completely Russian radio telescope for some reason does not cause such a storm of indignation among Russians as the disassembled Ukrainian one.




  14. vkrav
    vkrav 15 October 2013 15: 08 New
    +3
    Quote: Mithridates
    Ukrainian boa swallowed a lot, but could not digest, that is, save and increase.

    Well, Duc is a national tradition ... "What I don't eat, I'll bite, what doesn't fit into my mouth - I'll crap!" (C)
  15. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 15 October 2013 15: 33 New
    +1
    This antenna can be used as radio telescope! Immediately begin to collect the schemes of premium and recording equipment yourself. This is not so expensive, now the home satellite TV receiver on 900 / 1200 MHz costs 2-3 tr Of course, you have more complicated equipment, but if you assemble it yourself, and even from some spare parts it should not be too expensive. At first, any home computer with suitable software will do for recording and processing signals. Having at hand advantageous and recording equipment - look for financing for antenna restoration, power supply and some minimal (at first) payment for the work of operators - you have the best specialists. Each university and research institute will be very glad to purchase such a monitoring station at bargain prices. I am not very familiar with this technique, but I know that radio telescopes are online a single "picture" is assembled from signals received at the same time at different points. Search and get interested!
  16. admrall
    admrall 15 October 2013 18: 43 New
    +3
    For example, in the space unit deployed in Kolpashevo, all the work is done by 5 people, whereas, as before, 70 troops served here.

    Part is completely closed in 2009 and is in the same condition there are only homeless people and not 5 people !!!
  17. Wii
    Wii 15 October 2013 20: 02 New
    +1
    While Ukrainians and Russians are arguing who owes more to anyone, in Ukraine, devastation and in the Russian outback are no better. We are dying, dying separately. Russia is a little better for one reason only because there are more resources, more opportunities for the thieves ’elite. I personally, as a Russian, have no joy that Ukraine will die out first and then Russia. And I hate this moronic independence that Russia and Ukraine don’t know from whom ”I don’t give a damn who owns the Crimea if it is not separated by a barrier and I can go there without showing my passport and trunk.
  18. Ofellon
    Ofellon 15 October 2013 21: 02 New
    -3
    Quote: Echo
    Quote: Libr
    ... sorry, you are too much

    As for me, as a Sevastopol resident, I think that this is not "too much", but shamefully little. Crimea, Little Russia and Novorossia are the Russian land, and it should be with Russia, and not with some sort of "independent-non-profit" Alliance sucked out of the Habsburg finger. And I will do everything in my power to kick off You can consider me a separatist, but I consider Kaklo-power as separatists and traitors to the organized criminal group, and if I have the opportunity, I will not regret any of them.

    with such plans, my friend, you will go straight to the State Duma with Zhirinovsky ... while people like you say "Little Russia" and "independent-independent Viya" there will be people like Bendera and Shukhevych .... If you don't like something, there is the door , close on the other side. You will be gladly received in Novorossiysk
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 15 October 2013 21: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: Ofellon
      .If you don’t like something, get out the door, close it on the other side. You will be happily received in Novorossiysk


      Aren't you a big deal, pan traffic controller? A man lives on his own land and his will to decide what and how to be, you are a foreigner there if something is wrong - you will be accepted in Poland, the lords there are already bored waiting.
      1. Ofellon
        Ofellon 16 October 2013 21: 53 New
        -1
        I am not a foreigner) I am Ukrainian and live in Ukraine. Crimea (and Sevas) is the territory of Ukraine, if someone doesn’t like this alignment, someone’s heart aches from such a geographic injustice can be removed))) no one keeps anyone ...)
    2. Vlaleks48
      Vlaleks48 15 October 2013 21: 48 New
      +2
      There is not enough space for you in Galicia, what drum do you climb with your "upa-unso" on the Little Russian land, which has never been what you call "outskirts"!
      1. vanaheym
        vanaheym 16 October 2013 04: 51 New
        0
        Because of people like you, dear, Ukrainians do not believe in the brotherhood of nations, and believe that let the Slav brothers live at home.
    3. wk-083
      wk-083 15 October 2013 22: 08 New
      +1
      We will gladly accept all the Russians! Let the underpolar geyropes fuck their heads !!!
    4. Ols76
      Ols76 16 October 2013 05: 58 New
      0
      Crimea is Russian land, and should be with Russia!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 16 October 2013 06: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Ols76
        Crimea is Russian land, and should be with Russia!

        Shaw, he decided to collect the pluses, put the right comment. Today you glorify the American army, put minuses to the pictures, where are the American soldiers with the SS flag?!?!?! Less to you is fat!
      2. Ofellon
        Ofellon 16 October 2013 21: 51 New
        -2
        Since when is Crimea a Russian land? :)
        1. svp67
          svp67 10 November 2013 00: 47 New
          0
          Since April 8, 1783, when Empress Catherine the Great approved the Highest Manifesto on the adoption of the Crimean Peninsula under the Russian State.
  19. xomaNN
    xomaNN 15 October 2013 21: 06 New
    +2
    How often the past victories of the USSR after such photos are recalled with longing sad The most offensive thing is that in hundreds of similar military towns that have been left without work, there is devastation. But this is still Bulgakov noticed in "S.S." - ... DESTRUCTION IN THE HEADS "
  20. repytw
    repytw 15 October 2013 21: 22 New
    +2
    In the Saratov region, I saw two military camps (an army aviation regiment and a pontoon bridge), everything was destroyed, dos were left, they were given to the administration, it's a pity - they destroyed everything! The helicopter regiment was a thunderstorm of Afghan and Chechen bandits, destroyed by confusing the unit number under Grachev.
  21. wolf1945
    wolf1945 16 October 2013 00: 51 New
    0
    YES FOR POWER
  22. Ols76
    Ols76 16 October 2013 04: 58 New
    +1
    It became very sad after viewing the pictures. I was there in childhood and I remember everything in different colors.
  23. Echo
    Echo 16 October 2013 09: 47 New
    -1
    Quote: Ofellon
    with such plans, my friend, you will go straight to the State Duma with Zhirinovsky ... while people like you say "Little Russia" and "independent-independent Viya" there will be people like Bendera and Shukhevych .... If you don't like something, there is the door , close on the other side. You will be gladly received in Novorossiysk

    I am in Sevastopol at home. And we, the inhabitants of Sevastopol, do not want to be part of Great Selukia, and do not want to see the Naval Forces at our place. And we will achieve our goal.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 16 October 2013 17: 48 New
      -1
      Quote: Echo
      I am in Sevastopol at home. And we, the inhabitants of Sevastopol, do not want to be part of Great Selukia, and do not want to see the Naval Forces at our place. And we will achieve our goal.

      Yes, that’s why you are writing from a Russian IP address, Sevastopol.
    2. Ofellon
      Ofellon 16 October 2013 21: 50 New
      0
      Sevastopol is Ukraine. And if you do not want to live in Ukraine, a passport is in the teeth and go on the Sevas-Moscow train. Nobody is keeping you here) Business then ...)
  24. saygon66
    saygon66 16 October 2013 12: 31 New
    0
    -This is the "abomination of desolation" We have an object within the city limits almost entirely gone into the swamp ... On the site behind the double row of "thorns" - a swampy lake, in the middle of which there are walkways and a guard tower ... Postapok ...
  25. GastaClaus69
    GastaClaus69 16 October 2013 19: 42 New
    0
    Quote: smirnov
    What do you have against Donbass?

    Come past the road, don’t sell pies.
  26. Cristall
    Cristall 18 October 2013 01: 34 New
    0
    Russian guys - maybe stop writing about the return of the Crimea? I will express this opinion - that Crimea will be part of the Russian Federation only together with Ukraine. Separately, it doesn’t work out.
    Either all or nothing. We don’t have to tear us in parts. Even on the Internet and in dreams.
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 April 27 2014 18: 54 New
      0
      time flies fast ... in general it has already happened and the glory of Gd without Ukraine
  27. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 April 27 2014 18: 58 New
    0
    Of course, there is nothing to restore ... BUT perhaps the Cassegrain parabolic antenna is needed, other stations can be connected to it and it will gain a second wind.
    It is only necessary to deal with the buildings around, when working on the tasks of deep space, even the side lobes have enough for everyone to excess for the loss of health.
    In Russia, there are dubious examples of local authorities - the construction of high-rise buildings in Shchelkovo (I mean FE) and the allocation of summer cottages in the antenna coverage area