In the US, upgraded the Russian carbine "Vepr"

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The love of some Americans for Kalashnikovs and another rifle armsdeveloped on its basis is known in principle. In the US, there are a sufficient number of fans of this brand, as evidenced by the growth in sales of Saiga carbines produced at Izhmash, which has now become part of the new Kalashnikov concern. American love for Russian small arms is not limited only to its purchase. In the states there are a sufficient number of craftsmen who are ready to upgrade Russian designs. One of the options for upgrading the Vepr self-loading carbine, created on the basis of a Kalashnikov light machine gun, was presented by Snake Hound Machine (SHM).

The Vepr self-loading carbine is the brainchild of conversion of the Russian military industry of the mid-10th century 90. The carbine was developed on the basis of a Kalashnikov light machine gun (PKK) and, thanks to the fame of this brand, was immediately loved by representatives of security structures and Russian hunters. The first batches of these carbines very quickly scattered across Russian private security companies and hunting clubs, this speed could be compared with the speed of a frightened saiga.

The carabiner retained the design of the Kalashnikov, as well as its type of automation. This is not unusual. When developing conversion weapons, the main principle is to preserve as many engineering features as possible of an army type. In addition, at that time there was already a clear example of the implementation of this scheme - Izhevsk carbine "Saiga". Therefore, at the plant "Hammer" in the city of Vyatskiye Polyany did not reinvent the wheel. In the Vepr self-loading carbine, as in the PKK, the principle of withdrawing a portion of the powder gases through a special side opening in the barrel wall is used for reloading. The main difference between the “Boar” and its combat ancestor is that the trigger mechanism makes it possible to fire only with single shots. In addition, the engineers of the Hammer had to change the shape of the horn, so that under no circumstances could a real combat store be inserted into the civilian version of the carbine.

In the US, upgraded the Russian carbine "Vepr"

The forend and “Boar” butt were made of wood, while the receiver was missing - the forearm covers the trunk from above. Designers from Vyatskiye Polyan decided not to give up such a feature of the Kalashnikov machine gun as the pistol grip, which is combined with the butt. In other words, a hole was made in the butt for the thumb. This solution allowed the designers of the weapon not to carry the trigger, as well as its safety bracket, and, therefore, also eliminated the need to perform additional traction in the trigger mechanism.

In the Vepr carbine, as a rule, there were two types of magazines used: on 5 and on 10 cartridges. The carabiner was equipped with a sector sight, having a division step to 1000 meters. On top of the receiver there is a base for mounting an optical sight on it. According to a number of technical parameters, the Vepr carbine is similar to the Izhevsk Saiga, common roots affect it: a trigger mechanism, a base for an optical sight, and a magazine's capacity. At the same time, the “Boar” has a longer barrel and is heavier. It has its advantages: a long barrel reduces the muzzle flame, and a lot of weight reduces the recoil energy.

Thanks to the constant additions and improvements to the Vepr carbine, one can rightly be called one of the most successful conversion carbines presented by Russian industry. In addition, the constant competition with the Izhevsk Saiga family makes the Molot engineers not stand in one place, continuously working on improving their carbine. Knowing that AK abroad has been used for a long time to develop weapons for powerful rifle cartridges (for example, they did it in Yugoslavia and Israel), the designers from Vyatskiye Polyan based on their self-loading carbine Vepr chambered for 7,62 X39 cartridge also created an option for 7,62 chuck -mm type .308 "Winchester" (the hunting version of the NATO cartridge 7,62х51). The new version of the carbine received the appropriate name "Vepr-308".

Vepr-308


Caliber - 7,62 mm.
Used cartridge - .308 WIN (7,62х51)
Barrel length - 520 / 700 mm.
The length of the carbine is 1165 / 1275 mm.
Carabiner height - 200 mm.
Carabiner width - 75 mm.
Sighting range of shooting - 300 m.
The initial speed of the bullet - 830 m / s.
Accuracy of firing (radius of dispersion) - no more than 50 mm.
Magazine capacity - 2, 3, 5, 10 cartridges
Weight with magazine on 5 cartridges - 4,4 kg.

On the basis of the Vepr-308 carbine, the American company Snake Hound Machine (SHM) managed to make quite an interesting weapon. The company has set a goal to change the opinion of the progressive rifle society about the AK platform as a whole. To do this, the company's specialists gathered a group of skilled gunsmiths in love with small arms of the AK family, and developed something exciting based on the Vepr carbine.

For the development of their weapon masterpiece, the SHM designers chose a model for the .308 Winchester cartridge (7,62x51 mm of NATO). The choice is due to the fact that the developers wanted to create a maximum point rifle, a weapon with very high accuracy rates. Therefore, do not think that the Vepr carbine was just hung with slats and fittings, after which it received the status of a masterpiece. The task that was set by SHM was precisely to develop a rifle capable of accurately shooting using commercially available standard ammunition.


This is what one of the SHM 308 carbine developers says: “These carbines were modified from front sight to the butt by replacing trunnions, springs and pins, all undergone careful tuning and manual polishing in order to increase weapon reliability and minimize recoil. As a result, at medium distances experienced shooters can stack bullets in a circle with 1 MOA accuracy, using ordinary ammunition. ” Modified carbine "Vepr" is equipped with a muzzle compensator Ares Armor Effin-A, which is considered one of the most effective in its class and barrel length 419 mm.

The creators of the updated version of the rifle abandoned fairly widespread accessories in favor of the B5 Systems SOPMOD Bravo butt, the forearm from SGM Tactical, the guide for the Rifle Dynamics AK / AR butt and the pistol grip from US Palm. The company made a choice in favor of the best samples. At this modernization was not completed. The ejection window of the spent cartridges was subjected to changes, the standard safety lever lever for the Krebs Enhanced company was also replaced, which allows you to hold the SHM 308 carbine in the rearmost position. In addition, the bolt group was replaced to install a more convenient loader handle.

The American SHM 308 Vepr carbine is supplied to the consumer in versions with 5 or 10 rounds magazines in three standard versions Standard, TWS & Keymod and California Express. The first option is the cheapest and lightest, it has a light polymer forend and weighs 3,67 kg, in the TWS & Keymod version it is supplied to the consumer with the Krebs Vepr Keymod guide system, its weight increases to 4,36 kg. The Krebs Vepr Keymod is a modular system designed for attaching a variety of accessories to a carabiner, created by Vltor, and regular Picatinny rails can also be used with the carabiner. The California Express version has a magazine lock, this version is for the state of California. Depending on the version chosen, the price of the SHM 308 carbine on the American market ranges from $ 2200 to $ 2600.

Information sources:
-http: //www.chaso.ru/magazine/2010-05/karabin_vepr
-http: //www.guns.yfa1.ru/karabin-vepr-snake-hound-machine-762x51-mm-nato.html
-http: //basurman.boxmail.biz/cgi-bin/guide.pl? action = article & id_razdel = 83794 & id_article = 112812
-http: //molotarms.ru
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  1. +24
    11 October 2013 09: 22
    To do this, the company’s specialists assembled a group of skilled gunsmiths in love with small arms of the AK family and developed something amazing on the basis of the Vepr carbine.

    Are there really no "gunsmiths in love with small arms of the AK family" at the Molot plant who could create "something amazing" themselves?
    1. +4
      11 October 2013 09: 38
      Quote: Nayhas
      To do this, the company’s specialists assembled a group of skilled gunsmiths in love with small arms of the AK family and developed something amazing on the basis of the Vepr carbine.

      Are there really no "gunsmiths in love with small arms of the AK family" at the Molot plant who could create "something amazing" themselves?

      maybe there is, but only enthusiasts can do such alterations, because such a modification is expensive in our country and the plant does not need it. The maximum will be made to order in some sort of workshop at the factory.
      And so yes - it turned out an interesting version of the "Boar".
      1. +2
        11 October 2013 10: 25
        similar modification in our country is not an expensive thing

        I don’t think it’s cheaper in the states. we just don’t have attention to such trifles in the culture of production, we haven’t brought it up yet.
        1. Tjumenec72
          +5
          11 October 2013 11: 55
          Here in this form, boar 12 is delivered over a hill. It all depends on the customer ...
          1. d_trader
            +1
            11 October 2013 21: 42
            This smoothbore is generally 12 cal. The article is about cutting
            1. Tjumenec72
              0
              14 October 2013 16: 36
              Speech about the presentation ...
        2. Tjumenec72
          +2
          11 October 2013 11: 56
          That's it for him)))
          1. Tjumenec72
            +4
            11 October 2013 11: 59
            The main thing is to pay, they’ll gag it ...
            (corporate stand bottom)
            1. 0
              11 October 2013 14: 15
              and on the top photo - why did the cars attach the smooth saiga, we can’t do it, and now they are again trying to ban ...
          2. Tjumenec72
            +4
            11 October 2013 12: 03
            assault option ...
      2. Garik
        +5
        11 October 2013 11: 21
        That's it in the workshop at the factory. Our hunters, for example, are not poor people. Those who are really passionate could afford such a modification. It seems that the gunsmiths of the master after the collapse of the USSR completely disappeared. Especially now there are a lot of new materials and ideas I do not want to create.
    2. +2
      11 October 2013 09: 40
      Quote: Nayhas
      Are there really no "gunsmiths in love with small arms of the AK family" at the Molot plant who could create "something amazing" themselves?

      Surely there is, but creating "something delightful" is not the task of our civilian gunsmiths, alas. request
      "The first batches of these carbines very quickly flew to Russian private security companies."
      As I understand it, the story is still about the rifled version of the Boar, but I did not hear something about rifled carbines in the chop chop.
    3. 0
      11 October 2013 09: 45
      I think if there is healthy competition (for example, AEK and AK12), then the factories themselves will strive to make everything "delicious" and "convenient". I'm an optimist ...
    4. Larus
      +2
      11 October 2013 10: 54
      Craftsmen can and have, that's just where the weapons are on sale freely and such alterations are beaten off quickly, and as always, everything rests on the sales markets here
      1. +2
        11 October 2013 11: 06
        Quote: Larus
        Craftsmen can and have, that's just where the weapons are on sale freely and such alterations are beaten off quickly, and as always, everything rests on the sales markets here

        If ours sells Boar in the USA, then why give money to someone, if you can do it yourself?
        1. +1
          11 October 2013 19: 58
          Quote: Nayhas
          If ours sells Boar in the USA, then why give money to someone, if you can do it yourself?


          This question has long tormented the people - for at least 30 years :)
    5. 0
      11 October 2013 11: 56
      Probably not, or tyap-blunder refers to work, if only the day until the evening ... horses die from work, work is not a wolf, you won’t run away into the forest, you won’t buy health for any money, you won’t earn all the money.
      This is how they most likely relate to the weapons of the AK family, because in order to create something similar, "delicious", they had to modernize ... "from front sight to butt" ...
      What kind of workers?
      1. 0
        11 October 2013 13: 28
        If ours sells Boar in the USA, then why give money to someone, if you can do it yourself?


        The work is piece-wise, but strangely enough it helps to increase sales of our weapons abroad and increase the number of AK fans, which again contributes to the sale, etc. etc. Up to pride, AK-based weapons are the best-selling weapons in the world. hi
      2. 7ydmco
        0
        11 October 2013 23: 12
        This is not so, the quality of the boars is at a quite decent level, and the work that the Americans have done is more like the work of enthusiasts with nothing to do.
  2. +1
    11 October 2013 09: 54
    it seemed to me that the American boar began to look more like an assault rifle
    not a hunting carbine (not really people will be hunted smile )
    1. +1
      11 October 2013 10: 28
      so the mattress covers are generally turned on assault rifles. they probably would have also made an assault variant from our double-barreled shotgun (IZH-27) - having attached an adjustable stock and akog ... so it is not surprising.
      but in general a beautiful thing turned out. do not take away - they know how ...
    2. Gennady1973
      -1
      11 October 2013 10: 35
      They often have it there ... from "democracy" the "tower" is blown away.
    3. +2
      11 October 2013 12: 42
      It all depends on the archer, only he knows what he will hunt, whether it be animals or people. In the US there are enough examples of the latter. The rifle has a very good appearance, and, according to advertising and very good accuracy. If Mosin’s memory serves me exactly 1 MOA, and Dragunov has 4 MOA. If an error is detected, I apologize.
      1. 0
        11 October 2013 14: 33
        There is a mistake, but the main thing is stoqn477 It all depends on the archer, only he knows that he will hunt, whether it be animals or people. These are great words!
      2. 0
        11 October 2013 17: 47
        On the Hansa forums, there were reports that the Tiger (the hunting version of the SVD) also fits into one MOA, then you are lucky. It is desirable that the early issues are 60, the beginning of the 70's, then the quality was better.
  3. 0
    11 October 2013 10: 01
    Quote: PSih2097
    maybe there is, but only enthusiasts can do such alterations, because such a modification is expensive in our country and the plant does not need it. The maximum will be made to order in some sort of workshop at the factory.
    And so yes - it turned out an interesting version of the "Boar".


    It's not about alterations, all possible changes in the design of all weapons from the AK family need to ask permission from its creator. In Tula, Izhevsk and Vyatsko-Polyansky factories, before the publication of the law on copyright protection, craftsmen made excellent modifications of "akmoids", but as the law came into force, grandfather Misha fit in for his rights. So it's an expensive pleasure now not to develop and manufacture a new sample based on Kalashnikov, but to get the right to do so!
    1. +7
      11 October 2013 10: 14
      Quote: Timeout
      It’s not a matter of alteration, all possible changes to the design of all weapons originating from the AK family need to be asked for permission from its creator.

      It is strange that for fine-tuning Zhiguli’s mind, the author doesn’t need to unfasten any more money.
      1. 0
        11 October 2013 11: 52
        It was necessary to ask Dante Giacosa the designer of the Fiat 124 before he died in 1997.
    2. +1
      11 October 2013 14: 38
      It's just that we have a trivial DTK to wind up a non-standard that affects criminology a little less than nothing, because some kind of a LRO watchman can spoil the blood. And you're talking about deep tuning. Have you tried redefining the rifle at least once? Or buy extra? all permission must be requested at least. And that it’s not a permissive person, that is a new interpretation of the law.
      By the way, the patent right for Kalash already expired 30 years ago. therefore copies are riveted to all and sundry.
      Well, the "sawers" do not need quality, assortment, sales turnover. These people only look at the accounting turnover. And there is not a word about consumers
  4. +1
    11 October 2013 11: 07
    I own Juice Boar with 1997 d. It's a good thing to hunt, although a little heavy, but you get used to it. Try to practice the meridic Boar, but so what do you say? Only personal opinions, looking at the picture. And the fact that they remake ALL weapons to their taste is true.
  5. 0
    11 October 2013 11: 30
    And how to understand the "rework of the bolt group"? Did they install a new bolt, or instead of the standard handle, they drilled a hole and put another one? I dealt with a super boar, in my opinion, and without alterations, it's not bad, better than a saiga.
    And as for assault rifles - right, at one time from the hunting AR-15, in my opinion, they made the M-16 in less than a year, now everyone is rowing into this pile.
  6. +3
    11 October 2013 11: 46
    Yes, they only have about 800-900 private firms involved in remaking, upgrading and upgrading weapons. Laws allow, and according to statistics, the population has about 283mln trunks in their hands. So this is not surprising. gun store photo:
  7. +2
    11 October 2013 11: 51
    In American photos, by the way, Vepr-308 Super.
    In comparison, it is clear that the Americans trite changed the box (which is very convenient on the original Vepra) and rolled up the compensator, the side aiming bar comes from the factory.
  8. +1
    11 October 2013 12: 43
    You tell me stupid explain the difference in the work of AK and RPK automation. for those who somehow I held them for something am
    1. 0
      12 October 2013 11: 16
      Her (difference) is not wink hi
  9. maklaut007
    +2
    11 October 2013 13: 34
    Mdyayaya We would have their problems. now that thieves in law have officially been accepted as deputies. In general, all weapons will be taken away, they will be shot for a slingshot.
  10. 0
    11 October 2013 13: 51
    The article is just licked and that’s it, we still have the law for a -20% reduction compared to military models, so everything that goes over the hill and what is sold here are two big differences
    1. 0
      11 October 2013 14: 43
      there is no such law .. but the "telephone law" - maybe, maybe
    2. vanaheym
      +1
      11 October 2013 18: 14
      Quite a moronic crimmetka and a negligent attitude of workers to their work is quite enough so that weapons lose not only 20% accuracy
      1. 7ydmco
        0
        11 October 2013 23: 18
        Does the barrel trim make a pure hunting weapon?
    3. 7ydmco
      0
      11 October 2013 23: 16
      Are you sure that it is real? smile
  11. +1
    11 October 2013 16: 57
    In fact, Americans are big masters to remake weapons to their taste - this must be admitted ...
    1. +2
      11 October 2013 19: 38
      Quote: Agent 008
      In fact, Americans are big masters to remake weapons to their taste - this must be admitted ..

      OH YEAH! For example, turn the RPD into such a handsome man!
  12. 0
    11 October 2013 17: 00
    Boar in the US before Saigi appeared, it was just that they were sold there by an American company with a very tough upgrade, so the price was not very acidic. But Saiga began to be sold first directly, without a layer from an American company
    1. vanaheym
      0
      11 October 2013 18: 09
      Quote: Bad
      But Saiga began to be sold first directly, without a layer from an American company

      The exclusive distributor of Izhmash in the USA is RWC Group LLC. They do not trade directly in the USA.
  13. +3
    11 October 2013 18: 30
    This is the answer to the question about the accuracy of the battle of army small arms. All of this is simple, the manufacturing accuracy of seemingly minor details can be improved and the apparatus assembled correctly, that’s a good battle, but the foundation is good, it’s a little to be finalized. about Saigu too) we can say that when they were designed, another stupid thing, characteristic only of Russian gunsmiths, was made non-interchangeable with the army store. So that, so to speak, hunters in their free time must be engaged in robbery, They couldn’t cram more ammunition into it. Cartridges are also intentionally made of poor quality, and the original machine guns are forbidden to be used. Among hunters it was believed that it was better to overpay and buy Sako or ChZ than to fine-tune the domestic carbine. If you look at the shutter frame of Saigi and on the thin guides along which it moves, you immediately recall the planer planing the board. The theme of nilling remains relevant.
  14. +1
    11 October 2013 19: 34
    As always, a good idea is killed by execution. What prevents the "piece of wood", reminiscent of the 50s, to be replaced by an aggressive and seemingly dynamic "body kit"? It's expensive - no, you just need to do a little work with your hands and your head. The Americans are good fellows, they know how to "finish off" equipment, be it an old "Dodge" or a weapon. Although my dream is to become the owner of not this fancy "Boar", but the usual Mosin carbine.
    1. GastaClaus69
      +1
      12 October 2013 02: 04
      Mauser G.33 / 40 (below), here is a real handsome man !!
  15. +2
    11 October 2013 22: 26
    Quote: Nayhas
    Are there really no "gunsmiths in love with small arms of the AK family" at the Molot plant who could create "something amazing" themselves?


    On the contrary! I’ve been hunting with the Boar 10th for 308 years. SOMETHING AMAZING !!!!
  16. 7ydmco
    0
    11 October 2013 23: 23
    What are the average distances? Yes, and conventional ammunition, Barnaul probably smile
  17. +1
    12 October 2013 01: 22
    when you see Kalashnikov’s car I want to shoot ...
  18. kopleev
    0
    14 October 2013 19: 49
    If it is true that the groups from this carbine will not fly out from "one minute", then this is no longer a modernized Vepr, I will take off my hat to the Americans.
  19. SAFON 1
    0
    7 November 2013 19: 25
    This is how it happens - the despicable s brought AK to mind, created, or talentedly reworked (compiled), even spizzled and improved the AK to acceptable market conditions, and the Kakashnikov concern polishes and paints everything old, not realizing that changing the numbers will not change no caliber, no barrel length, no market laws.