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Recently in the German popular science magazine Welt Der Wunder, an article by Sebastian Hess, The Long-Term Killer, was published, describing the unique characteristics of the British sniper rifle L115A3. We offer our readers an abridged translation of this article and a commentary on it by the gunsmith Dmitry Shiryayev.


Afghanistan. Helmand province, south of Musa-Kala. A combat alarm signal was provided by Corporal Creg Harrison: “We are observing two rebels firing a large-caliber machine-gun on the compound, which we must maintain. The weather conditions are perfect - full calm, the air is crystal clear. I follow them through the sight of my rifle. The driver of our Jeep Cliff 0, Farrell tells me the distance to the target, determined by his binoculars, is more than 2000 meters. ”

Corporal Craig Garrison is a sniper of a British military unit, in his hands is a new rifle L11 5А3 of the British firm Accuracy International, abbreviated AI. 1,2 rifle length meter, weight 6,9 kg, .338 Lapua Magnum cartridges (8,58x70). Replaceable rifle magazine holds ten rounds, staggered. This order of placement of cartridges allows you to make the store short, which, in turn, ensures its replacement without changing the position of the rifle.

L115AZ rifle - it is quite expensive weapon. Its cost is comparable to the cost of a middle-class Mercedes car.

To solve sniper problems, where a small weight of the weapon is needed, the AI ​​company produces more compact and lightweight AX308 rifles for a reduced cartridge.

AI sniper rifles are the finest rifles of all time. They are distributed in special compounds of more than 60 countries of the world.

Sniper rifle L115A3 of the British company Accuracy International. According to Sebastian Hess, this is the most long-range and accurate rifle in the world.


But back on the battlefield. According to Harrison, the first bullet fired by him hit the machine gunner in the stomach. The second Taliban began to leave, but was shot in the side. The third shot was disabled machine gun itself. This operation was completed. The distance to the target determined by the laser rangefinder was 2475 meters.

As AI Ir Director Tom Irvine noted, Harrison’s unusually accurate shooting is a considerable element of luck.

According to sniper trainer John D. Taylor and ballistic expert Dean Michaels, the .338 Lapua Magnum cartridge is the best sniper cartridge in the world. Its gigantic powder charge ejects an 15-gram bullet with a muzzle velocity of 936 m / s and with an energy of 6782 J — almost twice as large as that of a normal machine-gun bullet. 2000 meters this bullet flies in 2,64 seconds.

A world-class runner the same distance runs over 4 minutes 44 seconds, in the Formula 1 this distance is covered in about 1 minutes 19 seconds, and a passenger plane covers it in 10 seconds.

So, assuming that the 2475 m range noted above can be taken as the effective range for shooting the English rifle L115A3 by the Finnish Lapua cartridge 8,58x70, we give below a similar characteristic for other types of weapons:

Large-caliber rifle Barret mod, 82,
12,7x99 Nato.

Effective range 2000 m Machine gun NK 21 7,62x51 Nato.
1200 effective range m

PKM machine gun 7,6x54.
800 effective range m

Colt М4А1 5,56x45 Nato assault rifle.
600 effective range m

Submachine gun NK MP5 9x19 Nato.
200 effective range m

Submachine gun FN P90 5,7x28 or 9x19.
150 effective range m

Pistol Beretta M9 Nato.
25 effective range m



Rifle cartridges (right to left): .30 "Springfield Model 1906 AP M2 (Belgium), .30" Springfield Model 1906 AP M2 (USA), .300 "H&H Magnum Sniper Ball (UK), .300" H&H Magnum Incendiary (UK) ), .300 "H&H Magnum Armor-Piercing (UK), .300" H&H Magnum Armor-Piercing-Incendiary (UK), .300 "AMU Ball (USA), .338" Lapua Magnum Ball (Finland), .338 " Lapua Magnum Armor-Piercing-Incendiary Hard-Core (Finland) The L115A3 rifle is designed for the last two (regular and armor-piercing incendiary).


Specialist commentary

Advertising Article

The article by Sebastian Hess can only be treated as an advertisement, since the technical characteristics of weapons and ammunition given in it bear traces of fraud. Some of them are simply erroneous. For example, the effective range of the NK 21 machine gun chambered for NATO 7,62x51 is listed as 1200 m, and the Russian single (i.e. company and battalion) PKM machine gun for the 7,6X54 cartridge is understated by almost half the 800 m that for more than a decade the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have been equipped with a much more advanced single 6P41 “Pecheneg” machine gun, developed at TsNIITOCHMASH in the A.S. Negodova designers V.I. Suslov and L.A. Morozova.

The accuracy of shooting from Pechenega from the Stepanov machine is 1,7-1,9 times higher than that of the basic PCM. Barrel survivability doubled. This made it possible to abandon the replacement barrel, which compensates for the increase in the mass of the machine gun. Now the calculation may not be worn; a removable barrel, although the mount of the Pecheneg’s barrel remains a quick-release.

The Pechenegs showed themselves excellently in Chechnya in 2000, being in service with the detachment of the Khanty-Mansiysky Special Intelligence Division.

The cartridge for Pechenega was also modified. Head of the Research and Development of Small Arms Ammunition of TsNIITOCHMASH V.N. Dual-ryaninovym based on the domestic cartridge 7,62x54 developed ammunition7H1 high accuracy.

At this point, it is hardly permissible to argue about the advantage of foreign NK 21 over our single machine gun.

The LXNUMHAZ rifle advertised above for the Finnish cartridge can hardly be called an army weapon — it is too expensive for that. In addition, a similar weapon under the brand ORSIS T-115 and under the same Finnish cartridge produces Moscow weapons factory "ORSIS". This company launched in May 5000.

Honestly, the ambitious statements of the ORSIS plant raise some doubts - the Tula and Kovrov arms factories, staffed by graduates from the Tula and Leningrad arms departments, have been forming for many years. It is difficult to say whether it has the same qualified designers and technologists as ORSIS.

When in Russia there was a question about the need to supplement the army SVD with more powerful weapons, then in Tula KHNUMXP, Professor V.P. Gryazev and his assistants created the 5-mm self-loading rifle B-12,7 (OCW-94), which was adopted in 95. Why Sebastian Hess does not consider it necessary to mention it in his article, one can only guess.

Since the staff domestic 12,7-mm cartridge according to its characteristics is not very suitable for accurate shooting, it was necessary to modernize it. 12,7-mm cartridge, satisfying the requirements for sniper shooting, was created in TsNIITOCHMASH V.N. Nobleman.

Large-caliber rifle Barret mod.82


Machine gun НК21


Colt М4А1 assault rifle


Submachine gun NK MP5


Submachine gun FN P90


Pistol M9


Domestic single machine gun PKM


In Kovrov, JSC "Plant them. V.A. Degtyarev ", designer V.I. Negrulenko in 1998, completed the development of a large-caliber sniper rifle KSVK (Large-caliber Sniper Kovrovskaya Rifle).

This rifle was a modification of the SVN-98 (Sniper Rifle Negrulenko). Negrulenko set a goal to create a weapon for the same cartridge as the Gryazevskaya B-94, but cheaper to manufacture. And in this field, according to Gryazev himself, he succeeded.

Combat experience using 12,7-mm rifles in Chechnya has shown that this is an excellent anti-sniper weapon. It should be noted that such rifles are not intended to replace the standard 7,62 sniper rifle of the SVD Dragunov, they only complement the sniper’s weapons, allowing him, in addition to manpower, to hit and equipment.

The PKM machine gun on the 6Т5 machine by Stepanov’s design


Modern Russian uniform Pecheneg machine gun without an ammunition box, but with a wide-angle sight Rakurs A


Machine gun "Pecheneg" on bipod with sided cartridge box


Sniper rifle T-5000 Moscow plant "ORSIS"


As for the fact that 2475 m can be considered as an effective range for a rifle L115A3, then there is a big doubt about that. It is unlikely that the result achieved by Harrison will be consistently repeated. The conditions of his shooting were perfect, and he was lucky. Most likely, another shooter, and Harrison himself in other circumstances will not be able to repeat such successful shots. So, to fire from such a distance is meaningless.

Basic data rifle KSVK
Chuck .......................................... 12.7СН (12,7x107)
The length in the combat position ......................... 1400 mm
Barrel length ................................................ ..1000 mm
Initial bullet speed .............................. 800 m / s
Magazine capacity ................................... 5 cartridges

Russian large-caliber sniper rifle B-94 (OCB-96)


Russian large-caliber sniper rifle KSVK
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  1. alex-cn
    alex-cn 9 October 2013 07: 58
    +4
    unequivocally advertising, a wild event, or wild luck. even for 12,7 - a prohibitive distance.
    or a mortar was standing next to him bully
    1. ramsi
      ramsi 9 October 2013 08: 53
      13
      Yeah ... mind you, with three shots - three hits, and even on a moving target ... They would have lied even more modestly
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 9 October 2013 09: 29
        +1
        Quote: ramsi
        Yeah ... mind you, with three shots - three hits, and even on a moving target ... They would have lied even more modestly

        Zvezdezh pure water. At 2,5 km, what is the range of bullets?
        1. vanaheym
          vanaheym 9 October 2013 10: 56
          +7
          Harrison reported it took about nine shots for him and his spotter to initially range the target successfully. Then, he reported, his first shot "on target" was a killing shot followed consecutively by a kill shot on a second machine gunner then a third which disabled the machine gun.

          Harrison made three hits from more than three shots - before that he had 9 sighting shots before he hit the machine gunner.
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Zvezdezh pure water. At 2,5 km, what is the range of bullets?

          Given that it is believed that L155A3 gives stable accuracy of at least 0.5 MOA, then at a distance of this shot the bullet spread will be about 35-40 cm, which in principle makes it possible to hit a chest target at such a distance. If the rifle is more accurate, then the destruction of the target is even more likely.
          The speed of the used bullet at this distance (Lapua B408) according to the ballistic calculator will be about 250m / s.
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      2. Nayhas
        Nayhas 9 October 2013 09: 54
        +3
        Quote: ramsi
        three shots - three hits, and even on a moving target

        Calculation of an enemy machine gun moving target? Well, let’s say people like moving in a trench or behind cover, but for what purpose did the machine gun become a moving target?
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 9 October 2013 10: 02
          11
          Quote: Nayhas
          Calculation of an enemy machine gun moving target?

          "According to Garrison, the first bullet he fired hit the machine gunner in the stomach. The second Taliban began to leave, but received a bullet in the side. The third shot disabled the machine gun itself."
          Was the first machine gunner standing? In the second, outgoing, with 2,5 km, no ballistic calculator will help, unless the Taliban moved strictly perpendicular to the line of fire at the same speed for a long time. To disable a machine gun, one must either get into the receiver or, at worst, into the barrel. Can you imagine the area of ​​these parts? How did they know that the machine gun was out of order, if no one had already fired from it (both machine gunners were killed), did they go and see?
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 9 October 2013 10: 52
            +1
            The Taliban could move along the line of fire and the fire could lead while standing. In the video, often such brave Mujahideen shoot standing, especially from heavy machine guns. Well, they could check the machine gun. What is the problem?
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 9 October 2013 11: 03
              +3
              Quote: DoctorOleg
              The Taliban could move along the line of fire and the fire could lead while standing. In the video, often such brave Mujahideen shoot standing, especially from heavy machine guns.

              In motion from a heavy machine gun? To \ a machine gun is a machine gun, conditionally, 12,7 mm caliber or more. Can you imagine its weight and return? This is not even RMB.
            2. vanaheym
              vanaheym 9 October 2013 11: 32
              +7
              How to shoot from this machine gun on the go?
              1. Megatron
                Megatron 9 October 2013 19: 43
                +2
                The main thing is more naughty, and screaming Alla akbar!
                And the accuracy is already behind the scenes.
              2. VARCHUN
                VARCHUN 4 November 2013 12: 02
                0
                And he's on wheels from a computer chair
            3. _CAMOBAP_
              _CAMOBAP_ 9 October 2013 12: 56
              +3
              The brave Taliban have long since learned to disguise themselves, and not to climb under foolish bullets.
              1. vanaheym
                vanaheym 9 October 2013 14: 12
                +2
                I think that they did not need to hide, taking into account the fact that the effective range of the heavy machine gun was greater than the range that was in service with the Harrison unit.
            4. aleshka
              aleshka 9 October 2013 21: 55
              +1
              Uncle, at least you should shoot from the RMB! I swear you will fall to f * ck after the 20th round of ammunition! And the Mujahideen are not stupid people, like in the video, and they don’t go to the bayonet like in the video!
              1. aleshka
                aleshka 9 October 2013 22: 04
                0
                wrote "not stupid people" fixed the site !!!
          2. vanaheym
            vanaheym 9 October 2013 11: 31
            +2
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Was the first machine gunner standing?
            1. aleshka
              aleshka 9 October 2013 22: 08
              0
              I saw the tripods under the DShK-swing !!! it’s almost branded! the most-three thick branches of walnut
          3. vanaheym
            vanaheym 9 October 2013 14: 07
            +4
            There were no escaping Taliban, all three shots were fired at fixed targets, as the shooter himself says
            Speaking about the incident, Cpl of Horse Harrison said: "The first round hit a machine gunner in the stomach and killed him outright. He went straight down and didn't move.
            "The second insurgent grabbed the weapon and turned as my second shot hit him in the side. He went down, too. They were both dead."
            The serviceman then fired a third and final round to ensure the machine gun was out of action.
            Conditions were perfect, no wind, mild weather, clear visibility.

            The first bullet hit the machine gunner in the stomach and killed him. He fell and did not move.
            The second rebel stood behind the machine gun and turned around when a second bullet hit him. He fell too. The last shot was fired on a machine gun to make sure that it was permanently disabled.
            The conditions were excellent - the weather was warm, there was no wind, it was clear
      3. _CAMOBAP_
        _CAMOBAP_ 9 October 2013 10: 32
        25
        Believe it or not - but I had two cases, in Afghanistan. The first case - early morning, below us about 300 meters and more than 800 meters, six souls sat down to drink tea by the fire. We have in stock one 82mm mortar with two mines, a PKM and a dozen machine guns. We decided to blow it out of the mortar - suddenly we'll scare - and immediately after the gap add from the rifle - suddenly we'll get there. The result - the mine flew, if not into the kettle, then into the fire - for sure. All six are lying, asking for nothing. The second case - Pagmanskoe gorge, DShK, range - 400 meters, the infection is very successful, under the visor, artillery cannot pick it out in any way. The company commander - Lyokha Novozhilov, looks at me with "kind" eyes. Available - 6 mines, released in the distant 43rd, but instead of the front, by some strange paths, they ended up "here and now." The result - the first four mines - "non-explosive", but by some miracle I manage to "seem to notice a kind of dust from a kind of falling mine." Fifth - the gap is exactly in the fortification, the barrel of the DShK lifts up, the surviving odor jumps out of the fortification and starts to fly down the slope - I push the gunner away, I twist a couple of turns to the left from the bulldozer - the sixth mine falls just in front of the smell, a meter or a half away. And both of these times, the native winged infantry did not want to believe that it was not me "the great and terrible" artilleryman, but the very case that cannot be, but it is happening. And for both cases, there are living witnesses, if that's what. Lyokha Novozhilov is only gone, rest in peace to him .... About a rifle - the car is good, but shooting from it for 2.5 km is called not "effective", but in "that direction" - you can get there ... by accident.
        PySy: A 82mm mortar is a thing!
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 9 October 2013 10: 49
          +4
          Quote: _CAMOBAP_
          Believe it or not, I had two cases, in Afghanistan.

          Here I will believe with pleasure.
          Quote: _CAMOBAP_
          About the rifle - the car is good, but shooting from it at 2.5 km is not called "effective", but in the "other side" - you can get ... accidentally.

          Exactly, that way. And he would even have believed if he had hit once, but with three shots - three goals, this is unrealistic.
        2. aleshka
          aleshka 9 October 2013 22: 00
          0
          hi brother mortar! to get from the samovar from the first mine, I don’t even know, probably not even one percent probability !!!! but it happens
          1. _CAMOBAP_
            _CAMOBAP_ 11 October 2013 00: 45
            0
            Yes, I myself okh ... then marveled.
      4. Alez
        Alez 10 October 2013 14: 30
        0
        The bullets were probably homing, experimental samples.
      5. VARCHUN
        VARCHUN 4 November 2013 12: 01
        0
        I don’t know for the rifle, but a sniper or a super pro or lucky.
    2. the47th
      the47th 9 October 2013 11: 19
      +1
      The .50 BMG is not the coolest sniper cartridge, the .408 Chey Tac is considered to be the best, but for him shooting at a range of more than two kilometers is shooting for luck. For .338, however, 1,5 kilometers is the limit.
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  4. Strashila
    Strashila 9 October 2013 08: 49
    0
    The fact that advertising is clear ... I think to ask our specialists ... then using a sniper based on a mosquito and with modern optics, and under the same conditions, we could have done no worse. It is modest how it goes by the wayside that this is a long-term stationary position arrow ... and in such positions, possible places for the appearance of the enemy are being worked out ... the firing tables are created in advance, and possibly shot.
  5. olegff68
    olegff68 9 October 2013 08: 59
    +8
    More than 2000m. - beyond the limits, or juggling, or incredible luck. This fact is very doubtful and is used as an advertisement for the faint.
    1. 505506
      505506 9 October 2013 09: 22
      +3
      I join your comment!
  6. nagi
    nagi 9 October 2013 09: 46
    +3
    "Formula 1" overcomes this distance in about 1 minute 19 seconds

    At a speed of 300 km / h, about 100 m / s is traversed. If you subtract the acceleration, then the formula should overcome 2000m in 35-40 seconds
  7. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 9 October 2013 09: 59
    +6
    But what, you still did not understand that NATO always put their weapons better than others, even if it is obviously worse! Remember the joint demonstrations of the tanks, before selling to some eastern country, General Abrams simply broke down, while the T-90 completed all the tasks, and so what? , the Americans continue to praise their tank!
  8. Nayhas
    Nayhas 9 October 2013 09: 59
    +1
    Hardly the result achieved by Harrison, steadily repeat. The conditions of his shooting were ideal, and he was lucky. Most likely, the other shooter, and Harrison himself in other circumstances, will not be able to repeat such successful shots. So, it makes no sense to fire from such a distance.

    The conclusion is killer. We tried and it worked, but it makes no sense to repeat ... And why is this? Because of a feeling of envy?
  9. Double major
    Double major 9 October 2013 10: 26
    +1
    I put a plus to the commenting specialist.
  10. vanaheym
    vanaheym 9 October 2013 10: 26
    +2
    It’s hard to call the L115AZ rifle advertised under the Finnish cartridge the army weapon — it’s too expensive for that. In addition, similar weapons under the ORSIS T-5000 brand and under the same Finnish cartridge are produced by the Moscow ORSIS weapons factory.

    Precisely because the rifle is difficult to call an army weapon, it has been adopted in 15 countries, including in limited quantities and in Russia.
    If we talk about the price, then AI AWM (L115AZ) abroad is sold to retail individuals at a price of about $ 6000, depending on the configuration. Government agencies - a quarter cheaper.
    Orsis T-5000 in the same caliber, according to the comments of the Orsis dealer, comes out at $ 5000 in Moscow.
    SV-98 is sold to the state at a price of 192 to 292 thousand rubles.
    In the documents upon receipt of the SV-98 rifles there is a column “product cost”. It ranges from 192 to 291 thousand rubles.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 9 October 2013 10: 37
      +5
      quote-In Kovrov, at OJSC Plant them. V.A. Degtyareva ", designer V.I. Negrulenko in 1998 completed the development of a large-caliber sniper rifle store KSVK (Large-caliber Sniper Rifle Kovrovskaya).



      quote-Modern Russian single machine gun "Pecheneg"


      V-94 sniper rifle (OSV-96)
      1. REZMovec
        REZMovec 9 October 2013 22: 16
        +1
        In the first video, what kind of sucker is the rifle? Who taught him to lie down and apply to the "trunk"?
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 10 October 2013 03: 32
          0
          Yes, he would have pressed his forehead against the butt ...
  11. Agent 008
    Agent 008 9 October 2013 10: 45
    +5
    Judging by the American militants, apart from the Kalashnikov, we seem to have nothing ... But judging by the photographs, there are machine guns and rifles, you just need to write more about them ...
  12. Doctorleg
    Doctorleg 9 October 2013 10: 50
    +1
    A strange comment from a specialist. The author, at least in translation, does not talk about the advantages and disadvantages of PKM and NATO machine guns. But the "specialist" discussed this point in detail. Advertising? :) The author simply gives some data (maybe wrong somewhere) of some weapon, without comparing (it's strange to compare a pistol and a sniper rifle). So you can find fault with the speed of Formula 1 (here he advertised whom?), Which did "nagi". If a specialist wanted to comment, he could compare the British and our rifles both in terms of characteristics and in the reviews of those who used them (if any). And so the data on them are not even given. And lastly, the author did not say that this rifle was an army one. Quite the opposite, it is written that it is in service with specials. divisions of 60 countries. And for other purposes there is a lighter rifle and a smaller cartridge. By the way, do our specialists have it? I read that ours are buying foreign weapons for them, including sniper rifles.
    And, actually, it was interesting to read the full text. But it’s like in a joke - I don’t like Caruso. Have you listened to him? No, but Abram sang me
  13. ran nearby
    ran nearby 9 October 2013 10: 55
    +2
    "surrenders mine, gentlemen, sho it was a comedy" (Man from Boulevard des Capucines ")
    International competitions of sniper groups are held in the Russian Federation. One of the exercises is shooting at a distance of 1000 meters. Not all snipers successfully perform it. But it’s not the guys from the yard sandbox who come to the competition ...
    Three out of three at a distance of 2500 meters? “I don’t believe!” (Stanislavsky)
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 9 October 2013 11: 25
      +6
      there were not three out of three. Before the first hit, 9 shots were fired.
  14. SIT
    SIT 9 October 2013 10: 58
    +5
    The bourgeoisie has a law - 25% of the price of any product is advertising. Hess's article is clearly paid out of this 25%. Business is business - you can't cheat, you can't sell. But I would like to ask the author, commenting on Mr. Hess, to ask a question about our PKM and Pecheneg. It reminds us of the situation with the UAZ - what the Russians would not come up with so as not to make good roads. It's the same with these machine guns. Why do they still use the mod. 1908 with a rim, which was outdated at the end of the 19th century? Why get rid of and make a mechanism for extracting from the tape, followed by feeding to the line of dispensing? This also leads to such a massive receiver, looking at which Maxim and Anka the machine gunner immediately come to mind. Well, isn't it easier to finally develop a normal machine-gun cartridge with a groove and make for it a much lighter machine gun with the supply of cartridges from the tape "for sewing"?
  15. lotar
    lotar 9 October 2013 11: 00
    0
    It was not otherwise than how the British came up with homing cartridges. People with a sick imagination need to be afraid, definitely. am
  16. mechanics
    mechanics 9 October 2013 11: 13
    0
    maybe the translation is not correct, the feet were mixed up with meters for better advertising ... and if in feet, it’s just a little over 750 meters.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 9 October 2013 11: 26
      +2
      Well here is the correct English text
      at a range of 2,475 m (2,707 yd)
  17. mechanics
    mechanics 9 October 2013 11: 17
    +1
    and if in meters, then at such a distance, in Afghanistan, and even if in the mountains .... ideal conditions cannot exist in principle ...
  18. the47th
    the47th 9 October 2013 11: 23
    0
    Honestly, the ambitious statements of the ORSIS plant raise some doubts - the Tula and Kovrov arms factories, staffed by graduates from the Tula and Leningrad arms departments, have been forming for many years. It is difficult to say whether it has the same qualified designers and technologists as ORSIS.

    Why doubt? A bicycle (sniper rifle) has already been invented, you just need to assemble it qualitatively, and ORSIS has high-precision machines for this.
  19. Perch_xnumx
    Perch_xnumx 9 October 2013 11: 43
    +1
    http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/lobaevsvl-r.html
    Lobaev SVL sniper rifle (Russia)

    With Lobaev’s rifles, a number of prestigious shooting competitions were won, several SVL .408 Chey-tac sniper rifles are in service with the Presidential Security Service. Based on the design of the SVL sniper rifle for civilian use, the Lobaev OVL hunting rifle is suitable for hunting at long ranges and for participating in high-precision shooting competitions.
    Almost all the components of the Lobaev sniper rifle are produced by the Tsar-Cannon enterprise itself under the strict control of the designer himself.



    http://www.popmech.ru/article/6392-privet-izdaleka/
    The flock was long enough

    Theory, as they say, is dead without practice. And here we are visiting Vlad Lobaev near Tarusa, we can’t find a closer range for the “two kilometers” shot. The rifle is a serial SVL .408 caliber manufactured by Tsar Cannon. A 24-fold sight rests on the experimental bar with a flow rate of 400 minutes - this is enough to shoot almost over the horizon. The distance to the target (a metal plate-gong 50 x 50 cm against a black growth figure 170 x 60 cm) along the rangefinder is 2025 m. The temperature is about + 1 ° C, a vile, piercing gusty wind blows. Vlad on his ballistic calculator Sniper Pro 4000 calculates the shooting parameters. At this temperature, the transonic transition will be approximately equal to 2200 m. This means that we do not have very long-range shooting. But the size of the shooting range does not allow to move the target. Vlad slowly takes ten sighting shots and introduces the final amendments. That's it, the show has begun. Because of the sinus, another series of .408 caliber cartridges with integral bullets is removed. Ten test shots and seven hits in the growth target, of which three hits in a row directly into the gong. One of them is mine. So ordinary mortals can shoot for 2 km. Especially when they have second number Vlad Lobaev.


    Post-script as the guys were squeezed out and now the Arabs shoot from excellent rifles.

    It is produced by a private company Tsar-cannon LLC (owner - Vladislav Lobaev) using equipment imported from the USA. Production is located in Tarusa.
    In September 2010, the company moved to the UAE [4]. The reason for the move is called a clash of interests with IzhMash, but there is currently no public information.

    And in 2011 Vladislav Lobaev successfully produces his rifles in the UAE, which have already been put into service in the UAE Army [5].
  20. Slotxnumx
    Slotxnumx 9 October 2013 11: 45
    0
    Shooting at such distances is a lottery! Even if there is a cartridge-rifle-shooter complex, the minimum error in cartridge equipment, aiming, and wind, at such a distance will lead to a miss! No, well, you can try shooting from one slope to another ... how at the shooting range, but IMHO, this is no longer precision shooting, but an attempt to hit.
  21. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 9 October 2013 12: 03
    +1
    Regarding this case, a version was put forward that the distances in the original were indicated in feet, and only then, when translating-retelling, they turned into meters. Very similar to the truth. If the distance was in feet, then when converted to meters, the battle distance is 2000m, which is 609ft. This is quite real for the stated result. And if you also take the hit in the machine gun itself, the linear dimensions of which are several times smaller than the human figure, then getting into it over 2000m is a fairy tale, and three hitting the target in a row, and even with the transfer of fire in range (escaping) is generally fantastic.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 9 October 2013 12: 27
      +2
      Quote: hohryakov066
      Regarding this case, a version was put forward that the distances in the original were indicated in feet, and only then, when translating-retelling, they turned into meters.

      Here's how it sounded in the original:
      The distance to his two targets was 8,120ft, or 1.54 miles - according to a GPS system - and about 3,000ft beyond the weapon's effective range.

      Quote: hohryakov066
      and three hits on target in a row, and even with the transfer of fire in range (escaping) is generally fantastic.

      There was no runaway target at all.
      Speaking about the incident, Cpl of Horse Harrison said: "The first round hit a machine gunner in the stomach and killed him outright. He went straight down and didn't move.
      "The second insurgent grabbed the weapon and turned as my second shot hit him in the side. He went down, too. They were both dead."
      The serviceman then fired a third and final round to ensure the machine gun was out of action.

      After 9 unsuccessful shots, he fell into the belly of the machine gunner, then, after the second Taliban took up the machine gun - he fell into it and damaged the machine gun with a third shot.
      Cpl of Horse Harrison reportedly had to aim 6ft high and 20ins to the left.

      in order to hit the target, he had to aim 180cm higher and 51cm to the left of the hit point.
      At the same time, the shooter himself admitted that the weather for the shot was perfect - neither wind nor fog
  22. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 9 October 2013 12: 22
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    This is just an advertisement for the rifle and the manufacturer + propaganda.
  23. ramsi
    ramsi 9 October 2013 13: 00
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    Quote: vanaheym
    Harrison made three hits from more than three shots - before that he had 9 sighting shots before he hit the machine gunner.

    Tell me, at 2,5 km you can see where the bullets fall for the correction, or is it a "poke" method?
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 9 October 2013 13: 59
      +1
      Judging by the video on youtube, where the arrows shoot at 2km - the clouds from bullet hits are visible
  24. denkastro
    denkastro 9 October 2013 13: 21
    +1
    Ideal conditions in the mountains are such a dubious thing that I would rather believe in the random hits of the brave warriors in the most likely unsuspecting civilians than in those very conditions. Difference in height, transfer of fire in range, terrible drafts that do not manifest themselves in any way (somewhere in the middle to the target), etc. In general, if I got it, then by accident. IMHO, of course.
  25. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 9 October 2013 13: 27
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    Well this is the British, why be surprised. One name for their island speaks of their arrogant nature.
    P.S. But luck cannot be ruled out either. Once I shot a raven from an air gun at a distance of about 30 meters, no one believed me.
    1. Centaurus
      Centaurus 9 October 2013 13: 35
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      That you have not tried to play golf with them yet)
  26. Centaurus
    Centaurus 9 October 2013 13: 34
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    Of all the "foreign" trunks presented here, the MP4 is certainly good.
    m4 to4en, but, under the condition of the 4th future battlefield, they are cleaned from dirt, dust, puddles, wind, etc.
    About machine guns I think analogs 4no, but with rifles ..
    If there is a lot of written things, then the school of development and creation of NE and SWR in the west is the most directly.
    In the Russian army, I heard mostly praise Vintorez, but this is a completely different thing)
    Question: Where are the rifles and the sniper better? 4_o ???
  27. zub46
    zub46 9 October 2013 14: 19
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    The bourgeois designer lied for sure, but, of course, he confused meters with feet. But getting into oneself from a small TOZ-8 is not a "crossbow" - one must see and feel it. As a kid and having access to sports weapons, I still did not know that lead bullets, when they hit the ground, begin to behave like a rubber ball. Their exact reflection in the direction of the arrow is not excluded. He shot while standing, leaning his shoulder against the door frame, at a target on the ground at a distance of about 10 meters. Imagine the sensation of a "sniper" hearing a terrible ricochet of a bullet that was returning deformed into a cake! She chipped chips from the door frame next to my muzzle and from there - right into the lobster. Abrasion, blood. But the frontal bone, even at a tender age, was already of a decent thickness. Later, I found a description of the habits of shellless bullets in the literature.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 9 October 2013 14: 32
      +4
      Quote: zub46
      yes meters with feet, of course, confused

      If he had mixed up meters with feet, then the news would have sounded like a sniper shot at 8 kilometers.
      The distance to his two targets was 8,120ft, or 1.54 miles - according to a GPS system - and about 3,000ft beyond the weapon's effective range.
      1. zub46
        zub46 9 October 2013 23: 58
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        I'm joking, sorry. In the part of the subject under discussion, I am closer to the amateurish level.
  28. vanaheym
    vanaheym 9 October 2013 14: 29
    +6
    The Russian groundhog record, as far as I remember, is 1629 meters from the first shot of the Sako TRG 42 in the same caliber .338LM.
    A groundhog is five times less than a standing person. Why people do not believe that the Englishman could get on the growth figure after 9 sighting shots at a distance of about 2400 meters is not clear.
    1. ran nearby
      ran nearby 9 October 2013 17: 28
      +3
      after nine sighting - of course we believe. In the translation of the article about sighting, nothing was said. Your quotes from the original text clarified a lot. Having a good rifle, a running spotter, a runaway target, a bunch of fashionable techniques for calculating shooting parameters, an experienced sniper does get there. Not everyone, but probably not one in the world.
      1. vanaheym
        vanaheym 10 October 2013 00: 18
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        Even taking into account the randomness of the hit, the shooter is still far from outstanding.
  29. User_internet
    User_internet 9 October 2013 17: 32
    +1
    Most likely a banal case. I hit it well, so they blew the whole world what a good sniper and what a good rifle. But he wouldn’t have hit, no one reproached. Well, in war everything happens. And all perish and are saved by accident.
  30. Vital 33
    Vital 33 9 October 2013 17: 51
    +2
    The rifle (in my humble opinion) is really great. I really like them (so far) L96, old already, but damn good.
    In principle, I believe in such a shot, as a result of many favorable factors and the shooter's class. They, unlike us, train with thousands of shots, and not "on holidays". But of course, you won't get "regularly" like that, there is luck, plus, as I said, a lot of factors coincided ...
    1. soldier of fortune
      soldier of fortune 9 October 2013 22: 42
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      Quote: Vital 33
      The rifle (in my humble opinion) is really great. I really like them (so far) L96, old already, but damn good.
      In principle, I believe in such a shot, as a result of many favorable factors and the shooter's class. They, unlike us, train with thousands of shots, and not "on holidays". But of course, you won't get "regularly" like that, there is luck, plus, as I said, a lot of factors coincided ...


      No, this is not luck - this is hell! The very exception (so far the only one) that confirms the rule.
      Or as the locals like to say: "Allah will do that!"
      I believe if I see it myself ......... and the paper will endure everything!
  31. Massik
    Massik 9 October 2013 18: 37
    +1
    The article is somehow crumpled, all in a handful of conclusions piecemeal. Well, for that matter, as if now no one is training for 2400 or 2600 for training purposes, it’s unheard of especially. Our Zaitsev also rolled into the chest of a German tanker for 2 km, moreover, not from a target rifle, but from a standard three-ruler with PSO 4.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 9 October 2013 21: 08
      +1
      Quote: Marssik
      Our Zaitsev also rolled into the chest of a German tanker for 2 km, moreover, not from a target rifle, but from a standard three-ruler with PSO 4.

      With all desire, but during the war there were no such sights. There were PU and PE, which were worse than Zeiss sights. Nevertheless, our snipers carried much more Germans.
      And yes, 7.62x54 could fly two kilometers at the speed of a passing bicycle.
      1. Vital 33
        Vital 33 9 October 2013 21: 19
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        Well, why? There, if my memory serves me right, the bullet flies for three kilometers, and for two there is a decent bullet speed yet ...
        1. REZMovec
          REZMovec 9 October 2013 22: 30
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          The destructive power of a three-linear bullet persists up to 3-3,5 km ...
        2. vanaheym
          vanaheym 10 October 2013 00: 26
          +1
          At that distance (2420), the bullet speed of 7.62x54 will be something around 60m / s (three times slower than the pellets from CO2 pneumatics), and the bullet will drop about 60 meters.
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  32. understudy
    understudy 9 October 2013 21: 50
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    "PKM machine gun 7,6x54. "... after that it would be possible to stop. The bullshit is complete. And if we take into account the historical indifference of impudently to their own small arms, the article has a purely advertising meaning. By" indifference "I mean following in the wake of other states that have their own shooting "school", both practical and theoretical.
  33. soldier of fortune
    soldier of fortune 9 October 2013 22: 35
    +2
    I have only rhetorical questions - why does this Corporal Craig Garrison with his rifle serve in the army and not collect gold at the world shooting championships and olympiads? And there is less dust and much more money !?
    And how could the bourgeoisie not think of equipping every infantryman with such prodrugs? That would be saved with such a shooting! A platoon of snipers against the regiment can be set ........ no one will reach melee!

    And in general ......... it is very interesting to check .......... if someone on this planet will post here an excerpt from "Star Wars", and even in the original, but with a translation .. ....... That everyone should immediately rush to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of laser swords and turrets (cost, range, accuracy) ???

    Advertising pure water from the category of army tales. With the same success, you can sneeze (stumble, fart, etc.) while aiming or running, pull the trigger and-and-and-dll ........ GET IT !!!

    I would rather believe the Dear SAMOVAR, because in war, as in many extreme situations, ".... there may be something that cannot be." And as for evil, when necessary, hell, you can hit this machine gun with a mine even at a distance of automatic fire
    .
    I advise all doubters to try to get into the top 10 from Tiger, Mosinka, etc. from 100m (Muscovites find it easier .... shooting gallery "Predator" in the area of ​​M "Oktyabrskoe Pole"). And when you finally get there, measure the distance between the centers of the holes in the target and estimate the spread at a distance of 1000 m. About 2000 I’m not talking at all ....... call me ...... to laugh cleanly! And most importantly, multiply the final result by 2 and better by 3. shooting in combat conditions after aerobic exercise - with a different heart, breathing, vision, neuro-emotional state is much worse.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 10 October 2013 11: 02
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      Quote: soldier of fortune
      I have only rhetorical questions - why does this Corporal Craig Garrison with his rifle serve in the army and not collect gold at world shooting championships and olympiads? And there is less dust and much more money !?

      And why do Russian snipers serve in the army, and not go to olympiads? Do they have even less salaries than the British?
      Quote: soldier of fortune
      To all doubters, I advise you to try to get into the top 10 from the Tiger, Mosinki, etc. from 100m

      Being not a sniper, I nevertheless confidently get into 10 self-rolled cartridges with Sierra MatchKing 175Gr bullets from my shorty Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD. When shooting according to the method of the Hansa, the rifle stably shows 0.6-0.7MOA.
      If you shoot some TulAmmo, then it is far from a fact.
      Why a long-distance after shooting can’t get a professional trained sniper with a good rifle, optics and electronics is not clear.
      Again, the Russian groundhog record is 1629 meters from the first shot with a similar .338LM cartridge. And this despite the fact that the groundhog goes to bed only when hit in the head, which he has the size of a cigarette pack. If a Russian can shoot at such a distance without shooting at a much more difficult target, then why can not an Englishman shoot at a motionless growth figure with 9 sighting shots?
      1. Ckyf
        Ckyf 13 October 2013 16: 32
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        Quote: vanaheym

        Why a long-distance after shooting can’t get a professional trained sniper with a good rifle, optics and electronics is not clear.
        Tell me, if bullets whistle and lie around you, will you continue to fire with manic persistence from the detected position or do something like an experienced warrior?
        Groundhog 1629m is from the first shot. The second simply will not be there, the groundhog is not stupid.
        The author of the article Mujahideen is 9 times dumber than marmots ...
  34. SHOGUN
    SHOGUN 9 October 2013 23: 33
    +3
    As an athlete I will say simply: FANTASTIC !!! It makes no sense to explain the physics of the long-range shot process. Archival calculations and perfect knowledge of the internal and external ballistics of their rifle and ammunition. As well as talking about ideal weather conditions. What simply does not happen in principle. About the effect of derivation, which does not develop linearly. About the fact that the pulse of even a completely relaxed shooter, at such a distance, will deflect the scope of the sight by meters, perhaps tens of meters. Nobody needs it now. However, if you accept for truth that this could indeed have taken place, and Corporal Harrison is an incredibly lucky son of a bitch. There’s nothing for me to do, just scoff at it, because my vanity is offended and requires sacrifice!
    Monsieur Hess, did the corporal look into the rangefinder before shooting or after? Uuuuuhahaha! Hmm ... What is it that bursts me so, huh?
  35. Killout
    Killout 10 October 2013 02: 45
    +2
    Of course, I understand that the Americans are cheating and all that, but the expert’s opinion just puzzles me with its confusion and unsuccessful juggling. And here is Pecheneg? where does an orchis come from? speech in the article that English is the most accurate, and not that it is better than our weapons. yet you had to write so clumsily ..