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A-100 "Premier" will replace aircraft ARLOU A-50

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When planning a military operation against Syria, the US military expected to actively use aircraft AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System), for example Boeing E-3 Sentry. These machines are very well proven during the fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and other hot spots of the planet. Aircraft of this type are becoming increasingly important in modern armies. Currently in service with the Russian Air Force is 22 aircraft ARLOU A-50, which were built in Soviet times. Also, the Russian Defense Ministry was transferred 2 modernized aircraft A-50U, the delivery of the third machine is scheduled to be completed before the end of 2013 year. In addition, in the 2013 year, the concern "Vega" expects to conclude a contract for the supply of military equipment for the 4-th such aircraft, which is already in the assembly.


According to Vartan Shakhgedanov, deputy general designer of the Vega concern, the main difference between A-50U aircraft and conventional A-50s is the replacement of analog equipment with digital equipment, which increases the aircraft’s ability to detect and track targets, as well as direct various strike weapons. The use of long-range radar detection and control aircraft allows you to quickly increase the radar field in a short time, which in Russia today is not continuous, but zonal. With an increase in the intensity of combat training, these aircraft are increasingly being used to solve problems according to their purpose. For example, from 2011 to the present, more than 150 combat training missions and special missions were carried out by Russian AWACS and Russian aircraft, the planes completed over 1000 fighter and strike guidance aviation for ground, air and surface targets. The A-50 aircraft, which was developed in the late 70s, still has not lost its significance.

The fleet of Russian aircraft DRLOU is gradually being updated due to the commissioning of modernized A-50U machines equipped with modern radio-technical complexes. Thanks to this version, the car has found a second youth. Due to the use of modern technologies and the replacement of part of the special equipment, it was possible to reduce the mass of the complex, which, in turn, caused an increase in the flight range and time of the aircraft on-duty. Automated workplaces of airborne combat control officers and other operators were equipped with modern LCD monitors that make it possible to visually display the air situation in the combat area. Allow you to quickly respond to all changes, as well as to have on hand all the reference data for effective work.

A-100 "Premier" will replace aircraft ARLOU A-50

Modernization allowed to increase the capabilities of the aircraft. The range of detection of air and sea targets increased, the number of simultaneously accompanied air (surface) objects, the output and processing speed of all information increased, and the possibility of automated guidance of fighters to air targets over the entire range of speeds and altitudes in the presence of interference was realized.

The production of aircraft A-50 was engaged and continues to be engaged in the Taganrog Aviation Scientific-Technical Complex (TANTK) named after. Beriev. The aircraft is built on the basis of IL-76MD and is able to fly for removal in 7,5 thousands of kilometers at speeds up to 800 km / h. It is able to detect and classify various types of air and ground targets, while simultaneously tracking up to 300 objects. Currently TANTK them. Beriev together with the concern "Vega" are engaged in the release of the aircraft in version A-50U. This is a variant of deep modernization of the aircraft with the installation of an improved radar complex "Bumblebee-M" and "Bumblebee-2". Compared with the basic version, it provides the capture and tracking of targets at a greater distance.

The capabilities of the AWACS A-50U aircraft make it possible to detect aerial targets such as a bomber at a distance of up to 650 km, fighters - 300 km, ground targets of the type tank columns - 250 km. It is assumed that the emergence of a new aircraft AWACS A-100 "Premier" will double these figures. On the new aircraft, it is planned to use a digital navigation system, as well as a digital control system with a “glass” cockpit. The aircraft will be built on the basis of IL-76MD-90A with engines PS-90A-76, also known as IL-476. It is reported that its antenna complex will be built on the basis of an antenna with an active phased array (AFAR). The first flight of the aircraft should take place before the onset of 2017.


The A-100, built on the basis of the IL-76-MD-90A, will be a fundamentally new aircraft, which should enter service with the Russian Air Force. The aircraft will be equipped with a multifunctional radio-technical complex, which will allow to solve operational-tactical and strategic tasks in the field of conducting reconnaissance and control of aircraft of the Armed Forces and arms of forces (troops). The basis of its development were derived systemic issues of increasing combat effectiveness and unconditional solution of tasks both in peacetime and in a threatened period, and during the conduct of hostilities. Separately, we can highlight the fact that the main design and conceptual decisions were made taking into account the real possibilities of modern computing, the latest achievements in the field of theories of optimal control, identification, filtering, and space-time signal processing.

Aircraft A-100 "Premier" is designed to detect, identify, classify, determine the coordinates and tracking of air, surface and ground targets and non-strategic rocket means of attack of a potential enemy; the transfer of intelligence information to control centers of different species and different levels, including targeting to control points of the ship and ground-borne air defense systems; control of all types of manned aircraft fighter, bomber, assault and special aircraft, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles.

At the same time, the DRLOU A-100 aircraft is a logical continuation of its predecessor - A-50U. This machine will be able to solve the whole range of tasks standard for DRLOiU aircraft, including ground guidance and crew management, but also use various types of UAVs. Currently, the Air Force is working on the detailed development of the full range of use of this aircraft after the 2020-2030 of the year.


Compared with its predecessor A-50, the A-100 “Premier” should increase the number of simultaneously accompanied objects (targets), the number of simultaneously controlled fighters, the target detection range should increase, the detection height of air objects should increase by an order of magnitude. In addition, capabilities will be added to control ground-based weapons, track various ground targets and provide over-the-horizon shooting. The implementation of these capabilities will significantly increase the effectiveness of medium-range and long-range air defense systems of the Ground Forces, Navy and Air Force, as well as providing information to all levels of the command and control unit of the Russian Armed Forces.

It can be argued that, while maintaining continuity, the new Russian DRLOU A-100 aircraft will become a fundamentally new air system both in complexity and number of combat missions to be solved, and in terms of its tactical and technical characteristics. The use of such airplanes will significantly increase the effectiveness of combat operations by all branches of troops (forces). It also seems obvious that for the broadest use of the potential incorporated in the aircraft, it will be necessary to further improve the techniques and methods for solving operational-tactical tasks with detailed elaboration of the relevant plans.

Information sources:
-http: //vpk-news.ru/articles/17645
-http: //www.arms-expo.ru/049057054050124050052056055051.html
-http: //militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-564.html
-http://www.pravda.ru/news/science/27-08-2013/1171670-airplanmod-0
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  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 8 October 2013 08: 04 New
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    We look forward to it :)))) Super-necessary thing. The only thing that upsets
    For example, starting from the 2011 of the year to the present, more than 150 combat training flights and special missions have been completed by Russian AWACS and Russian aircraft

    Even if we assume that for 2,5 of the year - 150 departures, is it for 60 departures per year? Are there not enough aircraft on 20?
    A-100, as I understand it, will be such a great ultimatum AWACS. I wish he had a little brother to make, for the fleet, for aircraft carriers :))) And pills for greed, and more :))))
    1. NC1982
      NC1982 8 October 2013 08: 57 New
      10
      Yes, by the way, why not equip, for example, the An-74 with such "saucers"? Great car for the Arctic. At low costs, it is possible to cover the radar field with mass DRLOU aircraft at the near borders of defense.
      1. eplewke
        eplewke 8 October 2013 09: 45 New
        +7
        the most needed aircraft for the army. Such birds for our army will be more important than aircraft carriers. I saw him at the MAX. Impressive! Not that word...
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 8 October 2013 16: 21 New
          +9
          Quote: eplewke
          Such birds are more important for our army than aircraft carriers

          These are incomparable things - an airplane is needed for the army, an aircraft carrier - for the fleet :))) The aircraft carrier is mainly needed so that these (only slightly smaller) birds watched the enemy in a cursed curse, and no one offended them :)) ) But for the army and the Air Force A-100 THERE IS SO needed, now without AWACS, without electronic warfare, without reconnaissance - in general, a pipe and a full afedron.
          Moreover, it seems that this our bird will be abruptly imported. Whether or not I don’t know, but there is a sensation :)
          Quote: eplewke
          Impressive! Not that word...

          It is of course. Premier Great!
      2. AVV
        AVV 8 October 2013 11: 06 New
        +3
        Then it’s better on our planes! Why be tied to Ukraine?
      3. lelikas
        lelikas 8 October 2013 14: 19 New
        11
        Everything is invented before us :)
    2. leon-iv
      leon-iv 8 October 2013 09: 28 New
      +4
      Not enough for 20 aircraft?

      They have a strip for repair, we have the entire airfield because of this, it flies a little. All new U-ki seem to have been stolen in Chkalovsk.
      1. Col.
        Col. 8 October 2013 12: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: leon-iv
        All new U-ki seem to have been stolen in Chkalovsk.


        To Chkalovsk or to Chkalovsky? These are different airfields, and they are unlikely to land in Chkalovsk (Kaliningrad).
    3. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 8 October 2013 15: 17 New
      +1
      I wish he had a little brother to make, for the fleet, for aircraft carriers :))) And pills for greed, and more :))))



      For the Navy will have to wait about 20 years.
    4. Constantine
      Constantine 8 October 2013 16: 20 New
      +1
      I would also like sea brothers based on the Tu-204 :) Those that are for the detection and destruction of naval targets smile
    5. Civil
      Civil 8 October 2013 19: 44 New
      +1
      But sho would not make a step forward! To make an UAV ARLO, here the theme will be, for example, to use the A-50 as a relay and communication for the earth is expensive!
      1. Col.
        Col. 9 October 2013 09: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        But sho would not make a step forward! To make an UAV ARLO, here the theme will be, for example, to use the A-50 as a relay and communication for the earth is expensive!


        You, Vadim, probably correspond to your nickname, since any aviator knows that UAVs are a nonsense! Not a single UAV can be a carrier of such a mass of equipment, antennas and equipment. This is the first. And secondly - one of the main tasks of the operational calculation of the aircraft is the combat control of the aircraft. Not yet invented electronic officer-operators who can make non-standard decisions in a difficult environment. And the repeater aircraft is a "completely different calico", and we have them (Tu-142 mr)
    6. neri73-r
      neri73-r 8 October 2013 21: 04 New
      +1
      Not enough for 20 aircraft?


      Normally, 2-3 planes really fly, the rest are standing! Do not forget about the engine resource !!!! If you drive all at once, then the engines are not enough to replace, they are expensive !!! and the crews are studying on these 2-3 airplanes !!!
      1. stoqn477
        stoqn477 8 October 2013 21: 46 New
        +1
        If you keep the engine in order not to waste their motor resources, then what's the point of building something? If something is built, it must be used! It makes no sense to sit down and wait for events to be lifted into the air. There is always the total number of aircraft that can be ordered with an additional number of engines. I do not see a big problem with this. This would avoid dispossession and the aircraft would be combat-ready.
  2. svp67
    svp67 8 October 2013 08: 05 New
    +4
    I saw this airplane more than once personally, it did not cause anything but enthusiasm. And I am glad that there is already not only a modern receiver, but also that the old man A50 has extended his life by modernization. In the country's defense system, this machine is far from the last in its importance.
    1. Col.
      Col. 8 October 2013 12: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      old man A50 extended life by modernization.


      Modernization is a natural way to maintain any equipment in a combat-ready state in accordance with the changing conditions of warfare and, therefore, the growing requirements for this equipment. But in this case, considering the declared possibilities of a new modification of the aircraft in terms of detection range, I strongly doubted their validity. Judge for yourself: the bomber detection range of the most advanced radar installed on the E-3С does not exceed 650 km. This is the ceiling for these radars operating in the centimeter wave range. The article says that this figure will double! Due to what? After all, an over-the-horizon radar, no matter how hard you try, cannot be installed on an airplane. I would like to read the author’s explanations. What are the reasons for such figures?
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 8 October 2013 13: 36 New
        0
        I also immediately thought about it, but the author is apparently not Copenhagen.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 8 October 2013 14: 00 New
          +1
          Yes, a clearly incompetent person wrote. And for front-line support, 600-700 km is enough. All the same, the operators will not process more.
      2. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 8 October 2013 15: 21 New
        +1
        This is the ceiling for these radars operating in the centimeter wave range. The article says that this figure will double! Due to what? After all, an over-the-horizon radar, no matter how hard you try, cannot be installed on an airplane. I would like to read the author’s explanations. What are the reasons for such figures?



        The article is more propaganda than military-technical. The number of targets processed has almost tripled compared to the A-50, which is doubtful.
      3. Gregazov
        Gregazov 8 October 2013 22: 03 New
        +2
        Your doubts are very legitimate. Take a pencil, paper and calculate the range of the radio horizon at an altitude of 10 km. You will get a figure of the order of 450-500 km. Therefore, in order for the target to see at a distance of 650 km, it is necessary that it (the target) fly at 4000 meters. It is not difficult to calculate at what altitude the target should fly, so that it would rise above the radio horizon at a distance of 1300 km. So no bombers to fly air defense do not fly.
        Of course there is over-the-horizon radar, but this is a different range and accuracy plus or minus bast shoes.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 8 October 2013 22: 56 New
          -1
          Of course there is over-the-horizon radar, but this is a different range and accuracy plus or minus bast shoes




          The reason is not in over-the-horizon radar. The doubtfully abrupt ability of SRBs to process such a number of targets and calculate their movement elements, course, speed, distance to the target.
        2. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 8 October 2013 23: 16 New
          -2
          Of course there is over-the-horizon radar, but this is a different range and accuracy plus or minus bast shoes.




          It’s not about over-the-horizon radar. This will also be calculated by a 6th grade student. Doubts are caused by the sharply increased ability of the radio complex to process the number of targets declared by the author (calculation of the elements of movement of goals — course, speed, distance to target, flight altitude)
  3. NC1982
    NC1982 8 October 2013 08: 07 New
    +6
    With our vast territory, such devices are vital in much larger quantities, there are so many radar “holes”, especially in the eastern part of the country and in Siberia, 22 copies are a drop, and even those aren’t all in service ...
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 8 October 2013 13: 58 New
      0
      In fact, they are not engaged in providing air defense, for this there are ground-based radars of unlimited power.
      1. Airman
        Airman 8 October 2013 21: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: Avenger711
        In fact, they are not engaged in providing air defense, for this there are ground-based radars of unlimited power.

        And what are the AWACS aircraft intended for, can you tell me? Tell me at least one radar of "unlimited" power. The trouble is, since the cake starts to stitch the boots ....
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 9 October 2013 09: 59 New
          0
          Pvoshnik-u
          Avenger711

          "AK RLDN A-50 is designed to provide airspace control, alert troops about the situation and the threat of an air attack, as well as combat control of aircraft.

          In addition, task groups are identified in the following areas:
          - management tasks;
          - solvable in airborne radar;
          - solvable in the mode of air PN;
          - when managing IA in air battles;
          - solvable in airborne launcher mode.

          Tasks solved in the air radar mode:
          - build-up radar, created by ground (ship) radar;
          - the creation of RLP with the development of the ground situation for NE, as well as in areas of road access difficult to access for land means;
          - maintenance of continuous radar in the presence of gaps due to fire or radar suppression of ground radar;
          - the removal of radar deep into the territory of the enemy. "

          (extract from the manual for training OBU (SH) AK RLDN)
      2. Gregazov
        Gregazov 8 October 2013 22: 17 New
        +2
        There are no unlimited capacities. Power is directly determined by the current strength. The cross-section of the radar supply wire limits the strength of the current consumed, and hence the radar power.
    2. Gregazov
      Gregazov 8 October 2013 22: 14 New
      0
      A-50 aircraft were created to cover the Northern border and more. That is why two air units were created: one in Šiauliai, the second in ZabVO. If memory serves me right, then there were more than 25 serial copies and three experienced ones. To them it is necessary to add a single air defense aircraft (an early and completely crude version). Thus, about 30 cars had to go through modernization.
      The biggest drawback of the A-50 is the horizontal tail of the tail of the airframe, falling into the near zone of the antenna. For this reason, the tail sector is blind. From here, it seems paradoxical to repeat the error with the choice of carrier for the A-100.
  4. a52333
    a52333 8 October 2013 08: 55 New
    +7
    We drove with the chief yesterday on business trips in Ivanovo - there are a dozen DRLO aircraft on the territory of the 308 Aviation Repair Plant. A new building is being built. Nicely.
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 8 October 2013 09: 29 New
      +7
      A new building is being built. Nicely.

      This car dealership, 308th sold his land.
      1. a52333
        a52333 8 October 2013 10: 10 New
        0
        Something size (height) is not like a car dealership. However, you judging by leon-iv from Ivanovo, you know better.
  5. stpv1
    stpv1 8 October 2013 09: 23 New
    +2
    I saw a report on the exercises of the A-50, showed a little what is inside of it, the technology of the 70s, everywhere the radiation tubes, it does not even smell modern equipment
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 8 October 2013 09: 31 New
      +8
      technology 70s, everywhere ray tubes, modern equipment does not even smell

      Lol and modern equipment what determines the ability to watch porn in HD directly from the satellite by catching phishing? Or do you need channelity detection range, etc., etc.?
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 8 October 2013 09: 55 New
        0
        Quote: leon-iv
        Or do you need channelity detection range, etc., etc.?

        Working conditions are no less important than the characteristics of the equipment. In this regard, the A-50 is simply terrible.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 8 October 2013 10: 25 New
          +1
          In this regard, the A-50 is simply terrible.

          I don’t need to be so categorical))) the operators normally serve the service I know many)))
          No one took away hardships and hardships)), but Wow is much better in this regard.
          1. Nayhas
            Nayhas 8 October 2013 14: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: leon-iv
            but Wow, much better in that regard.

            So ask familiar operators in what conditions it is more pleasant for them to work ... U-ki only two cars, the rest are old. It’s not at all clear whether the rest will be modernized by U or if all the money has run out.
            And the A-100 seems to have a long wait.
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 8 October 2013 15: 36 New
              +1
              It’s not at all clear whether the rest will be modernized by U or if all the money has run out.

              No will upgrade ALL aircraft. So they told me. They drank something new on a black plane. Therefore, he still has not been driven. He constantly hangs out somewhere.
          2. stoqn477
            stoqn477 8 October 2013 21: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: leon-iv

            No one took away hardships and hardships))

            Do not forget that we have the 21st century, not the 19th. The normal work of one person, even a soldier, facilitates and improves the result of their working conditions.
        2. Gregazov
          Gregazov 8 October 2013 22: 25 New
          +3
          The horror of the A-50 is not in the equipment, but in the arrangement of the crew seats. Units are seated facing the nose of the aircraft. Escort officers and guidance navigators are sitting facing the board. During the flight, the plane necessarily flies with a certain angle of attack. Thus, the crew sits, sorry for the detail, on one buttock (half-poppy) with a curved spine for more than 6 hours. However, he does not just sit, but performs a combat mission. Turn, the navigator of guidance in this position to the flashlight has an analog or digital display. (By the way, on the A-50 it is digital from the very beginning, albeit electron beam).
      2. Jager
        Jager 13 October 2013 11: 26 New
        0
        Compare the weight of the old Soviet TV on the handset and a modern computer monitor. I think that means the difference in weight in the field of aviation you do not need to explain. About the clarity of the image and the rest of the "buns" I will keep silent.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 8 October 2013 09: 51 New
      +6
      Well, what did you expect from 80's technology? Ordinary A-50 with globes (such a radar screen, round and convex) and so on.

      Here are a number of operators in A-50, to which the entire A-50 fleet will be modernized.
  6. yanus
    yanus 8 October 2013 10: 49 New
    +4
    The great news is that the A-100 will be able to work in conjunction with ground-based air defense systems. If he can direct S-300 missiles, the S-400 will simply be gorgeous. Then it is possible to leave the SAM in ambush without the included radars.
    1. Sirs
      Sirs 8 October 2013 11: 50 New
      +1
      And who will cover the A50U?
      1. Gregazov
        Gregazov 8 October 2013 22: 28 New
        0
        A-50 will cover the APP 50. The plane flies only over the protected territory.
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 9 October 2013 10: 03 New
          0
          Gregazov

          For cover it was supposed to use IA (from 4-6 pcs.) (Even above its territory), which we now lack for solving other tasks.
      2. yanus
        yanus 9 October 2013 00: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Sirs
        And who will cover the A50U?

        I wrote about the A-100, for it the fighter detection range is promised up to 600km. Vaguely imagine who will threaten him at such a distance
  7. Tektor
    Tektor 8 October 2013 12: 44 New
    +4
    This is a key element in the sustainability of military forces and ships. It operates in conditions of low enemy air defense capabilities. Otherwise, MiG-31s ​​must act. Aircraft AWACS provides comprehensive security for military operations and maneuvers. It can guarantee 100% success, both in defense and in the offensive. But it needs protection from long-range missiles and fighters.
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 8 October 2013 15: 24 New
      0
      It can guarantee 100% success, both in defense and in the offensive. But it needs protection from long-range missiles and fighters.




      Who can guarantee 100% success? Where? This complex, except for fighters and anti-aircraft missiles, is a threat to electronic warfare of various classes.
      1. Gregazov
        Gregazov 8 October 2013 22: 31 New
        +1
        He participated in the tests of the Pelena electronic warfare station. Until we discovered the frequencies, durations and periods of repetition of nothing, Pelena could not oppose the A-50.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 8 October 2013 23: 00 New
          -1
          He participated in the tests of the Pelena electronic warfare station. Until we discovered the frequencies, durations and periods of repetition of nothing, Pelena could not oppose the A-50.




          You did not confuse?
    2. Forest
      Forest 8 October 2013 15: 33 New
      0
      The most interesting thing that I remember in Tuzel (Tashkent) was flying the A-50 and a pair of MIG-31-regularly.
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      2. ig96or
        ig96or 5 March 2014 18: 55 New
        0
        Yes, the A-50 and Indian IL-78 flew, but alas, this is not there now. TAPOiCh was renamed the Tashkent Mechanical Plant.
  8. Scoun
    Scoun 8 October 2013 13: 01 New
    +1
    The capabilities of the AWACS A-50U allow detecting air targets such as a bomber at a distance of up to 650 km, fighters - 300 km, ground targets such as a tank column - 250 km

    If a fighter like raptor then 300 km IMHA is not enough! taking into account the speeds and the fact that a long-range missile is being developed for a raptor ... in general, a raptor can be the first to go crazy and start to fly off ...
    a tank column of 250 km IMHA is small, may fall under the distribution of air defense
    although I could be wrong but personally I would be calmer if they would rather put into operation
    It is assumed that the appearance of the new aircraft AWACS A-100 "Premier" will double these figures.
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov 8 October 2013 22: 37 New
      +1
      The data presented in the article is uninformative. Not specified ESR fighter or bomber. For the A-50, the MiG21 was used as a fighter, and the Tu16 bomber. It seems that the author of the article proceeded from the same realities, then "doubling these figures" probably implies maintaining ranges while reducing the EPR of the targets.
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 9 October 2013 11: 26 New
        0
        GregAzov

        I agree with you.

        Information and specific numbers minimum.

        It is also not clear whether the problems with effective radar protection for the crew and the ballistic missile have been resolved, a significant error in determining the altitude of the CC (about 2600 m at D = 100-200 km) (which is very important with automated guidance), the problem is non-working (" blind ") zone due to shadowing by the plumage of the aircraft (from 157,5 to 202,5 degrees (45 degrees)).

        In addition, it is not clear, but what about the ground equipment of the Delta-Sh PPC? After all, without it, the capabilities of A-50 are sharply reduced.
        And is there any equipment on IA aircraft capable of working in conjunction with the A-50U with automated guidance to the CC?

        There are a lot of questions.
        But the article "+".
        The main news in the article is that at least someone else is doing something in this area and is trying to improve the situation.
  9. parij777
    parij777 8 October 2013 13: 06 New
    0
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  10. Altona
    Altona 8 October 2013 17: 01 New
    +2
    The Soviet AWACS A-50, it was always admired by him, these are heavenly eyes and ears ... It is necessary to have the entire ruler, a large aircraft, a medium and helicopters AWACS ... Huge help to combat groups air and sea ... And the role of such equipment is only growing ...
  11. Current 72
    Current 72 8 October 2013 18: 10 New
    +1
    I’m not an expert, but I believe that what’s being done is being done for the better. And God forbid that it would be faster and better, and more. And yet, maybe you don’t have to whine and cry for everything, as some do, we should hope for the best .Because they say: what, HOPE dies last !!!
  12. scientist
    scientist 8 October 2013 21: 06 New
    +3
    After school he dreamed of getting to serve on such a flying CP as the A-50. No luck, there was no order. But all the same, then he became much interested and studied the experience of combat use. The A-50 had one serious illness. The low stability of the transmitter did not allow the SDS system to effectively detect aircraft in the mountains. Against their background, he almost did not distinguish between low-flying targets. I hope the A-100 will not have such a disease.
    For some reason, we do not develop the technology of creating airborne radars with a synthesized aperture of the antenna. But in vain. After all, they are more effective for aerial reconnaissance of air targets against the underlying surface and ground targets than pulse-Doppler radars, even artillery shells can detect and correct fire.
    Although it may be on the A-100, the installation of a radar with a synthesized aperture on the wings or on the side of the fuselage as in the E-8C is almost imperceptible.
  13. samoletil18
    samoletil18 8 October 2013 22: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: leon-iv
    In this regard, the A-50 is simply terrible.

    I don’t need to be so categorical))) the operators normally serve the service I know many)))
    No one took away hardships and hardships)), but Wow is much better in this regard.

    I'm not an aviator, but the equation of state seems to determine the payload weight. Thus, it seems to me that an elementary replacement of equipment with a lighter one will allow us to at least take more lunches, fuel, etc. Another thing is clear: these saved money are Serdyukov’s 3,14 hours, but not all the same.
    If I’m wrong, don’t scold me much, I repeat: I’m not an aviator (I just love aviation).
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 8 October 2013 23: 02 New
      0
      If I’m wrong, don’t scold me much, I repeat: I’m not an aviator (I just love aviation).




      IMHO you are right. The author is inclined to propaganda methods.
    2. PLO
      PLO 9 October 2013 01: 57 New
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      you can’t just take and deliver more modern lightweight equipment, this violates the alignment of the aircraft inherent in the development

      I heard that during the modernization of some civilian aircraft, when replacing equipment with modern equipment, they specifically put ballast in order to preserve mass-dimensional characteristics so as not to waste money on redesigning the aircraft
  14. Prishtina
    Prishtina 9 October 2013 01: 45 New
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    In addition, capabilities will be added to control ground-based weapons, to track various ground targets and to ensure horizontal shooting. The implementation of these capabilities will significantly increase the effectiveness of medium and large air defense systems

    Yeah, finally!!!!!!!!
  15. xomaNN
    xomaNN 9 October 2013 15: 39 New
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    Looking no longer from Russia but from Ukraine: I assume that in Ukrainians. The Air Force does not even fly a single A50. And the pace with which the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are being modernized in all directions is impressive. So, you are on the right track, comrades (from the slogans of the leader)
  16. sivuch
    sivuch 9 October 2013 16: 14 New
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    gunnerminer RU Yesterday, 23:00 p.m. ↑
    He participated in the tests of the Pelena electronic warfare station. Until we discovered the frequencies, durations and periods of repetition of nothing, Pelena could not oppose the A-50.
    You did not confuse?
    Why mix it up? The veil was created precisely against AWACS (American, of course). And, as far as I know, both Soviet and American AWACS work in the same -9cm range.
    But about the old A-50 pilots wrote that with the discovery of NLC they just had a shit, at least until the 90s. I hope the situation improved at 50U
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 9 October 2013 17: 57 New
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      Why mix it up?




      The commentator who was asked the question, IMHO, has mixed up something important or doesn’t say anything about the use of “Shroud”.
  17. sivuch
    sivuch 10 October 2013 09: 03 New
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    You know, if I were related to this product, I wouldn’t agree too much
  18. samolet il-76
    samolet il-76 12 December 2013 10: 40 New
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    Great airplane!