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Unknown space. Light Space Plane (LKS) Chelomey

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The topic of space exploration in the USSR has always been top-secret. Fortunately, today the veil of mystery is lifted ... For example, such mystery was soaring over the works of outstanding designer Vladimir Chelomey. His name is mainly associated with the development of the legendary Proton launch vehicle. For 22 years, this booster rocket was the most powerful in the Soviet Union, which put tons of payload into 20 orbit. Even today, despite the presence of a more powerful rocket “Energy”, “Proton” remains the space transport in the implementation of the present and future Russian space programs. In 2001, the Proton-M rocket, which is a modification of the Proton, developed by Academician V. Chelomey, went to the first flight.


Unknown space. Light Space Plane (LKS) Chelomey


However, there was another direction of the designer’s activity, which only a very narrow circle of specialists knew about. This direction is associated with the development of its own version of the space shuttle.

Vladimir Nikolaevich never stopped doing design rocketplanes. In 1960, Korolev SP, citing successful flights of ICBMs, proposed to close the design of cruise missiles in the USSR. Leonid Brezhnev, who was in charge of defense equipment, immediately supported him, and the subject matter was covered.

However, in OKB Chelomey V.N. the topic continued, to the logical end was brought almost underground. In 1960-ies, the project of the Chelomey Design Bureau (OKB-52) began the project of a promising cruise orbital reusable manned spacecraft with launch on the Proton launch vehicle. During these years, MP-1, M-12, Р-1 and Р-2 rocket planes were developed. As a base for the project, groundwork was used on the topic of the Tsybin space rocket flight for the Vostok launch vehicle. Already 21 of March 1963 from the Baikonur cosmodrome on the P-12 rocket a suborbital launch of the prototype of the P-1 lightweight spacecraft was carried out. At an altitude of 200 km, the rocket glider separated from the carrier and, with the help of onboard engines, gained altitude 400 km, after which it began to descend. The R-1 rocket entered the Earth’s atmosphere at a speed of 4 km / s, flew 1900 km and landed with a parachute.

In 1964, the appearance of the LKS was already really visible. The pilot of this cigar-shaped machine with varying circular tail feathering and side keels with appropriate equipment could perform urgent detailed reconnaissance or interception of targets. However, the work was not allowed to complete.

After the events of 1964, when the verification commission appeared in OKB-52 with verification, promising projects were forgotten. Lightweight spacecraft project suspended. The reason for the shutdown was the concentration of resources on the lunar program of the USSR and the creation of the Soyuz spacecraft, as well as the Spiral aerospace system. In 1966, the materials on this development were transferred to the Mikoyan Design Bureau.



In 1976, in the USSR, a government decision was made to create the MTCS, which largely duplicates what was developed in the USA: the Soviet party nomenclature by that time begins to perceive the West as a reference. For this program, it was necessary to develop an Energia rocket carrier (general designer Glushko) and the Buran spacecraft (general designer Lozino-Lozinsky).

Chelomey was also invited to participate in the program. However, the designer refused because he was a supporter of asymmetric solutions that allow you to achieve the desired results with less effort. He argued that the development of the MTCS for the USSR was economically unprofitable, and proposed the design of a light space aircraft launched by the Proton launch vehicle. As a result, the estimate for the development of the transport-space system was reduced by an order of magnitude. At the same time design work was resumed.

After a captious analysis of various variants of Chelomey, a project was selected in which the LKS would put tons of payload into 4-5 orbit. The aircraft provided for the maximum use of the results of flight design tests of 1960’s rocket-glider models.

For launching the LKS into orbit, it was proposed to use the Proton K (“UR500K”) ready-made launch vehicle. The use of the finished booster significantly reduced the time and cost of creating the LSK. Externally, the device is very reminiscent of the "Buran" in miniature. However, their aerodynamic and operational characteristics were very similar. To speed up the creation of an aircraft, it was proposed to use waste systems, units and components with the OVS Almaz and TKS. The flight of the LKS in the manned variant was supposed to last up to 10 days and in the unmanned - 1 year. The mass of the 19-meter light spacecraft was 20 tons with a payload of 4 tons. The crew LKS consisted of two people.

A lightweight space plane was originally designed as a multipurpose device that allows you to solve a wide range of tasks in the interests of the national economy, science and defense. It was also supposed to work out the technology of the flight of a space plane. The lightweight space plane was intended for the transportation of useful space cargoes, as well as for assembling orbital settlements, like the Soviet "Peace" and the American International Space Station, or for hitting major strategic points and neutralizing intercontinental ballistic missiles.

The photo shows a full-scale mock-up of the Chelomey lightweight space plane. One of the monuments of the Soviet cosmonautics was hastily dismantled and destroyed in order to preserve secrecy.


A special feature of a lightweight space plane was the use of a heat-shielding coating used on the reusable return vehicle of the Almaz complex. This thermal protection provided one hundred return cycles from outer space. In addition, it was much cheaper and more reliable than the Burana and Space Shuttle tiles. Also from "Almaz" were supposed to "migrate" the life support system of the crew, management, and the like.

Unfortunately, there was no customer for civil transport among our departments and ministries, then Chelomei V.N. launched a program that Velikhov EP, the world-famous academician, called "Star Wars". The project was very bold and stunning. Those were released. proposals for the LKS in 25 volumes, as well as a technical proposal for the creation of space fleet from light space planes in 15 volumes. It was proposed to create the LKS within four years. These proposals of support were not found by the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the industry. Despite this, Chelomey V.N. on an initiative basis developed a conceptual design of a space plane. The main focus of the project was on the military use of a light space aircraft. The main task was the introduction of a laser into near-Earth orbit. weapons to prevent nuclear attack. At the same time, 360 orbital planes with laser weapons on board had to be put into orbit. With this "rate of fire" were going to bring to the 90 launches "Protons" in the year. Naturally, to ensure the duty of light spacecraft in orbit for a long time, unmanned aerial vehicles had to be launched. At the same time, in the event that the level of military confrontation was reduced to a safe level, laser weapons returned to Earth. In fact, this proposal was a “chelemeevsky” response to the American PIO (strategic defense initiative).

In the year 1980, based on the results of the preliminary design, a full-size mock-up of a light space aircraft was made.

Such a proposal, of course, interested both the military and the leaders of the USSR, who were concerned about the deployment of the PIO. In September, 1983 created a state commission to protect the project of a light spacecraft. The commission included representatives of the Ministry of Defense, electronic industry, general engineering, Aleksandrov AP, President of the USSR Academy of Sciences, and others. The main opponent in the defense was Kisunko G.V., the general designer of missile defense systems, since the creation of a fleet of light space aircraft with laser weapons devalued ground-based anti-missile defenses. In essence, Kisunko defended his own narrow departmental interests. Nevertheless, he was able to attract the military to his side, and the government commission decided to stop work on the LKS.

Further work was discontinued in favor of the reusable transport space system Energia-Buran, and the KB forces were sent to work on the space station complex of the Almaz spacecraft. In the interests of secrecy, the manufactured layout LKS was disassembled, and the technical documentation was classified. To date, several photographs have been preserved of the layout of Chelomey light spacecraft.

Perhaps, if the work on the light spacecraft were not covered, now in Russia there would be a mobile and relatively cheap reusable transport ship that the fate of Buran would not have suffered (it’s laid up). However, it is difficult to imagine that Glushko VP allowed to use LKS Chelomey to supply their orbital stations.

Specifications:
Developer - MKB Mechanical Engineering (KB Chelomey VN), 1980 year;
LKS length - 18,75 m;
Height - 6,7 m;
Wingspan - 11,6 m;
Payload compartment length - 6,5 m;
The diameter of the payload compartment - 2,5 m;
Payload mass - 4,0 tons;
The mass of the aircraft with ADU CAC - 25,75 tons;
Control mass in orbit (with the inclination of 51,65 degrees at an altitude of 220-259 km) - 19,95 tons;
Weight on landing - 18,5 tons;
Fuel stock for maneuvering - 2,0 tons;
The maximum flight duration in the manned version is 1 month;
The maximum flight duration in the unmanned version - 1 year;
Side maneuver with a decrease in the atmosphere +/- 2000 km;
Maximum landing speed - 300 km / h;

Based on materials:
http://galspace.spb.ru
http://old.novosti-astronavtiki.ru
http://www.nkau.gov.ua
http://epizodsspace.no-ip.org
http://www.buran.ru
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  1. andrey-tse
    andrey-tse 7 October 2013 09: 41
    +1
    It is always difficult for a new one to punch his way to life.
  2. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 7 October 2013 09: 45
    +6
    This development even now looks fantastic, but it used to be!
  3. pahom54
    pahom54 7 October 2013 10: 15
    10
    All this is familiar ... And there were enough and enough of such hackneyed projects in the USSR-Russia ...
    If Chelomey’s ideas were implemented, we (Russia) would now have a huge advantage over the States and their allies - is it a joke to have our own space fleet for conducting the so-called star wars !!! These light boats could also solve most of the anti-space defense, as well as serve as the active core of strategic attack weapons (Oh! I forgot that we are the most peaceful in the world! However, I did not forget that all good must be strong ...).
    In general, as always, backstage and undercover ministerial and pseudoscientific intrigues worked, and as a result, such a promising, promising project was ruined. Sorry, so sorry ...
  4. Cosmos-1869
    Cosmos-1869 7 October 2013 10: 23
    +7
    What is preventing this project from being restored now? The "protons" fly, the documentation remains, the "old people" are still working (not all of them, of course).
    1. avt
      avt 7 October 2013 11: 20
      +3
      Quote: Cosmos-1869
      What is preventing this project from being restored now? The "protons" fly, the documentation remains, the "old people" are still working (not all of them, of course).

      When were you last in Reutov, what would you say so bravely?
    2. Sashkessss
      Sashkessss 7 October 2013 17: 31
      +2
      1: America and the rest of the community will talk very very very very much about this in the press if we start flying into space on a similar one, as you yourself see - this is a direct threat from space to their nation. Load a rocket onto a similar shuttle and release it from outer space with a small impulse towards the United States of America - and stop her figs, she will fly into a ground with a huge fireball and explode.
      2.Money. In our case, when discussing financing, a situation similar to that of an exceptional nation will happen. Well, the Cabinet of Ministers will not be able to give several billion to RosKosmos for this, realizing that no one will be able to take this money.
      3. In our country, many people are still starving, old people do not receive medicine, and free medicine is also not so hot. Here they will definitely raise srach - "Someone flies into space, and we are starving."
      4. There are enough problems in the country for the eyes, these LCS may not fly, and then the entire image of the space nation will definitely be undermined
    3. Straus_zloy
      Straus_zloy 8 October 2013 07: 22
      +1
      What prevents to restore this project now?

      What for? Now a completely different level of technology, thermal protection, electronics, materials. You can do much better. The issue of political will and eggs in the Kremlin.

      In addition, with all due respect to the Russian cosmonautics, I have to note that it was not realistic to place a combat laser in 4 tons of payload then and will not be real in the near future
  5. rotor
    rotor 7 October 2013 10: 25
    0
    It is really hard to imagine that the Chelomey spacecraft was used to supply the orbital stations.

    So the Space Shuttle launched 30 tons into orbit for $ 800 million.
    And the Proton rocket puts 20 tons into orbit for $ 60 million. Is there any need to talk about the effectiveness of the shuttle for delivering goods to space.
    1. ben gun
      ben gun 7 October 2013 12: 58
      0
      I'm not special. what is the reason:
      "..However, it is difficult to imagine that V.P. Glushko would allow the use of the LKS Chelomey to supply his orbital stations."
      Why could not this orbital plane be used to supply orbital stations?
      1. rotor
        rotor 7 October 2013 13: 36
        +1
        Chelomei put combat missions in the first place in the design of the LKS. Among them are the monitoring of launching ballistic missiles and their destruction, the conduct of hostilities against the naval forces of the enemy, the destruction of ground stationary targets, strategic intelligence.

        Chelomei also understood that Buran - a system with an expensive hard start - is hardly suitable for urgent military tasks. To visit and maintain orbital stations, the ship will also be too bulky and expensive.

        Thus, the LKS was imprisoned for military purposes and the price of delivering goods into orbit was not particularly taken into account.
      2. Petrix
        Petrix 7 October 2013 13: 46
        0
        Quote: ben gun
        Why could not this orbital plane be used to supply orbital stations?

        Because to supply Glushko stations, you need to use the Glushko shuttles. Competition for a seat at the feeding trough.
    2. postman
      postman 7 October 2013 13: 58
      0
      Quote: rotor
      So the Space Shuttle launched 30 tons into orbit for $ 800 million.

      1. At the DOE, not 30,00 tons, but 24,5 tons
      2. By the end of 2010, total costs reached $ 200 billion (including losses from 2 disasters, four times higher than the original plans. A total of 135 launches.
      $ 200/135 = $ 1,481 billion per launch (TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ABSOLUTELY TOTAL)
      OV-102 (first) April 12, 1981: launch cost - $ 240 million
      Average cost of shuttle maintenance, $ 450 million (excluding R&D, ACCIDENTS, etc.)
      For reference: the price of one Energia rocket (only it without Buran) is $ 750 million.
      Quote: rotor
      A Proton rocket puts 20 tons into orbit for $ 60 million

      CRAFTS !!
      How much has the country spent on developing the launch vehicle?
      Get other numbers, we just use the heritage of our ancestors ...
      Well, like Miller and Potanin, "top managers-geniuses" who suddenly created (or received for a spear) some of the richest enterprises in the world
      1. rotor
        rotor 7 October 2013 15: 43
        0
        According to published data on the first 91 flights, the average payload flight weight was 12722,8 kg, i.e. the average shuttle load in the first hundred flights (9 of which were carried out for the needs of the US Department of Defense and the weight data of the payload remained classified) did not exceed 43,5%. The maximum load of 22776 kg was launched into orbit on July 20, 1999 on the Columbia spacecraft, which was only 77,2% of the maximum possible. In other words, the shuttle never managed to seriously "surround" our "Proton" (UR-500K).
        1. postman
          postman 7 October 2013 16: 06
          0
          Quote: rotor
          According to published data

          Demand creates supply
          Quote: rotor
          the shuttle never managed to seriously "surround" our "Proton" (UR-500K).

          you are confusing, "ProtoN" and UR-500K
          Proton-Mon = 8,4 tn at DOE

          UR-500K- Mon =was able to bring up to 20,7 t Payload
          and the figure 21 tn is the conclusion to the NOO (basic, short-term): of the Upper Block D (11С824), not KA
          Dry weight of the upper stage "DM" - 3420 kg,
          The mass of elements separated in flight - 1090 kg;
          The mass of spacecraft displayed on the GSO, - up to 2600 kg;
          Refillable fuel components stock - 15050 kg;

          + + + + = up to 21 tn
          Low orbit (LEO), hcr = 200 km, i = 51.6 °
          "Proton-K", tn 19.76..20.7
          "Proton-M", tn 21.0..22.0

          ===========
          In other words, Shuttle-OBSTAVIL, according to the number of unsuccessful launches: the same 9 is better than the Proton LV
          1. rotor
            rotor 7 October 2013 16: 46
            0
            UR-500K, the ancestor of the modern Proton family.

            "Proton-K" UR-500K is capable of launching a payload weighing 20.7 tons into an orbit with an altitude of 200 km or 2.3 tons into a geostationary orbit.
            1. postman
              postman 7 October 2013 18: 49
              0
              Well, what am I talking about?
              You wrote:
              Quote: rotor
              In other words, the shuttle never managed to seriously "furnish" our "Proton" (UR-500K).

              ?
              and I wrote:
              Quote: Postman
              you are confusing, "ProtoN" and UR-500K
              1. rotor
                rotor 7 October 2013 19: 17
                0
                Didn’t I specify in brackets about which Proton in question?
  6. rotor
    rotor 7 October 2013 10: 52
    0
    The use of the Chelomey spacecraft as a space robot for servicing satellites is also in doubt. Why should a robot be returned to Earth if it can be repaired in space, at a space station.
  7. velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 7 October 2013 11: 36
    0
    since he was a supporter of asymmetric solutions

    Russia cannot have symmetrical answers (if we wish, we won’t pull it, we’ll tear ourselves up), it would be time for our leadership to understand and put this into practice, not in words.
  8. nod739
    nod739 7 October 2013 11: 49
    +2
    Quote: Cosmos-1869
    What is preventing this project from being restored now? The "protons" fly, the documentation remains, the "old people" are still working (not all of them, of course).


    at the same time, there are enough new brains, as well as new technologies, materials, design capabilities, etc. - in theory, if you revive - then you can do better,
    and if you really need it
    it only needs a will, a political will
    1. Petrix
      Petrix 7 October 2013 13: 50
      0
      Yes, the lack of political will interferes. Or we don’t know what management knows.
  9. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 7 October 2013 12: 05
    +4
    Everything is as usual: first of all, the interests of the department and its own, and then you can think about the country. I happened to serve in the city of Uzin, Kiev region (the birthplace of P.P. Popovich). During the meeting, one of the officers asked that we are behind the Americans in shuttles, which Pavel Romanovich remarked on, and we have something that the Yankees did not even dream of. But it’s one thing to develop, and to introduce another! What a pity!
  10. alefa
    alefa 7 October 2013 12: 59
    +2
    It is high time to abandon the "rocket" direction of delivery of objects into orbit. It's time to use other well-known technologies, Konyukhov spoke about this at SKB. The future belongs to flameless systems.
  11. Cosmos-1869
    Cosmos-1869 7 October 2013 15: 41
    0
    Quote: avt
    Quote: Cosmos-1869
    What is preventing this project from being restored now? The "protons" fly, the documentation remains, the "old people" are still working (not all of them, of course).

    When were you last in Reutov, what would you say so bravely?

    A long time ago, in the early 90's. You want to say that everything died there?
  12. shvindin2012
    shvindin2012 7 October 2013 16: 18
    -1
    Once again I emphasize that now there is a continuation of the race between states to develop spaceplanes of spacecraft. It is worth mentioning the American project DreamChaser ("dream hunter"), which will be launched in 2015 into near-earth orbit. The ship is capable of placing up to 7 people into orbit and a payload in the form of the same satellites. 3-4 times smaller than the previous generation SpaceShattle. Developed by Sierra Nevada Corporation PRIVATE. And on the set of "Starfleet" I will say the following: the Cold War is over, so this spaceplane would repeat the fate of the US shuttles and, in the end, would be written off as unnecessary. It is necessary to involve private companies, as is done in the United States under the Barack Obamma program for the development of private astronautics.
  13. lpd1
    lpd1 7 October 2013 16: 51
    0
    Who can say - "Energy" will live?
    1. rotor
      rotor 7 October 2013 17: 17
      0
      What will you, with a mass of 105 tons, bring us to space? Even ISS blocks are lighter than 30 tons.

      There will be a hangar with a deduced mass of PN 2-50 tons.
  14. rotor
    rotor 7 October 2013 17: 22
    0
    In Russia, tests of a space robot android are underway.

    Specialists of the Gagarin Scientific Research Testing Center for Cosmonaut Training (NII CPK) have begun testing the first Russian android robot SAR-400, which in the future will become an assistant to the astronauts at the International Space Station.



    If the tests are successful, in the next two years, the SAR-400 will go to the ISS, and then, probably, will fly to the moon or to Mars. In general, experts consider the use of robots in manned space exploration very promising and intend to focus efforts in this area in the coming years.
    1. rotor
      rotor 7 October 2013 17: 49
      0
      http://www.itar-tass.com/c19/899610.html
  15. andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 October 2013 17: 37
    +1
    Chelomei genius. Soviet school of design thought. Not only did he have almost all the Soviet-Russian missile defense systems, but he also had a handful of isov, a spy satellite "diamond". well, and its own theory (by the way, very vital) of the conquest of deep space. but then with his authority Korolev hacked his program down.
  16. studentmati
    studentmati 7 October 2013 20: 55
    0
    Reading the article, an analogy arises with the X37B. At least the design idea is very similar. Here only one flies, and the other into oblivion.
    1. rotor
      rotor 7 October 2013 22: 04
      0
      X-37C - Manned Shuttle
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 7 October 2013 22: 15
        0
        Quote: rotor
        X-37C - Manned Shuttle


        If possible, I would like to learn more about option "C".
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          1. studentmati
            studentmati 7 October 2013 22: 23
            +1
            Quote: Alex 241
            Quote: studentmati
            X-37C - Manned Shuttle
            Just unmanned.


            Unmanned "B", which is currently in its third flight. "A" is the first experience. Logically, A and B are followed by C. That is why my question arose.
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 7 October 2013 22: 28
              +1
              Sorry Sanya got the letters, the link below, go through it.
              1. studentmati
                studentmati 7 October 2013 22: 33
                +1
                Quote: Alex 241
                Sorry Sanya got the letters, the link below, go through it.

                I got what you mean. I read it. It’s parasitic for me that this is the third long flight. And all in the middle. Is there really such a leap in technology?
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 7 October 2013 22: 36
                  +1
                  I don’t think like clockwork, the press service worked, it’s not for nothing that such a veil of secrecy.
                  1. studentmati
                    studentmati 7 October 2013 22: 39
                    +1
                    Quote: Alex 241
                    I don’t think like clockwork, the press service worked, it’s not for nothing that such a veil of secrecy.


                    I agree that not everything is so cool.

                    But agree that the FIRST flight of any product has never been so long as that of the X37B and with a very successful landing? And this alone is a huge success.
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 7 October 2013 22: 42
                      +2
                      Astronauts who did not fly is a drama, but not a tragedy of space. The queue of those who were waiting for their start stretched out for years ... But the history of other "non-starts" makes one think about ill will. Breaking fates, this omnipotent will resisted not only their desire to fly. People least of all interested her.
                      It was resistance to the rise of the latest domestic space technology.
                      We did not know anything about the “Reutov group” - cosmonauts Vladimir Nikolayevich Chelomei. They didn’t know for twenty years. More precisely, twenty-four years. Never talked about them. And rumors among the people did not go. http://epizodsspace.no-ip.org/bibl/ogonek/1993/ogonek93-4.html
                      1. studentmati
                        studentmati 7 October 2013 22: 48
                        +1
                        Even take the first flight of Buran. Objectively speaking, this was the intuitive farce of Lozino-Lozinsky (there is nowhere to sump, behind Moscow). The farce is successful, honor and glory !!!
                      2. vignat21
                        vignat21 10 October 2013 19: 15
                        0
                        Not true! see here http://abbreviator.ru/?p=768
        2. rotor
          rotor 7 October 2013 22: 36
          0
          X-37C will be able to automatically perform maneuvers of approach, docking, descent from orbit and landing. If necessary, the pilot will be able to perform all these operations manually, for this there is a variant of the shuttle with the usual pilot's cabin.

          1. rotor
            rotor 7 October 2013 22: 42
            0
            A manned shuttle will be made from the X-37B drone
            http://www.cnews.ru/news/top/index.shtml?2011/10/13/459996
            1. rotor
              rotor 7 October 2013 22: 49
              +1
              It should be noted that Dream Chaser is similar to the X-37C in size and capabilities and is able to remain in space for 210 days. The development company SpaceDev plans to make its first flight to the ISS in 2016.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 7 October 2013 22: 53
                +3
                Dream Chaser is very similar to the Soviet Spiral project.
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 7 October 2013 22: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  Dream Chaser is very similar to the Soviet Spiral project.


                  Sash and I have thoughts converge. Are we really ..... laughing
                2. rotor
                  rotor 7 October 2013 23: 01
                  +1
                  The Spiral project, launched in the 1960s, was a response to the US-led X-20 Dyna Soar space interceptor-bomber reconnaissance program.
                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 7 October 2013 23: 05
                    0
                    X-20 "Dyna Soar". But she remained the program. Not one flight this device did not make.
                  2. studentmati
                    studentmati 7 October 2013 23: 12
                    +2
                    Quote: rotor
                    The Spiral project, launched in the 1960s, was a response to the US-led X-20 Dyna Soar space interceptor-bomber reconnaissance program.


                    Maybe it was the answer, but the answer is quite intelligible and loud. Lozino-Lozinsky did his job and firmly adhered to his concept.

                    From day to day, "optimizers" will be at the helm of strategic industries. It makes me sad even to think about it, but in my opinion, the "leaf fall" of Protons will soon only intensify. God forbid "Unions".
                    1. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 7 October 2013 23: 18
                      0
                      Sash, today in Moscow the premiere of the next American masterpiece of Gravity. The script is apocalyptic.
                    2. studentmati
                      studentmati 7 October 2013 23: 30
                      +1
                      Quote: Alex 241
                      Sash, today in Moscow the premiere of the next American masterpiece of Gravity. The script is apocalyptic.


                      Thanks, Sasha. There will be time to see. Unfortunately, there is sorely not enough time even for declassified documentary.
                    3. Alex 241
                      Alex 241 7 October 2013 23: 33
                      +1
                      Sanya, likewise, I take my soul here.
            2. rotor
              rotor 7 October 2013 23: 08
              +1
              The "spiral" was to be launched into space by a hypersonic accelerator aircraft, and then a rocket stage into orbit.

              A hypersonic booster is still not being built. am
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 7 October 2013 23: 10
                +1
                ...............
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 7 October 2013 23: 15
                  +1
                  ....................
                2. studentmati
                  studentmati 7 October 2013 23: 43
                  +1
                  Maybe Sash found a video of how he took off on watermelon peels? Would it be interesting? If it is of course?
                3. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 7 October 2013 23: 53
                  0
                  I’ll look for Sasha .....................
                4. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 8 October 2013 00: 02
                  0
                  Sasha here is the material, but there are only comments, now at times.
            3. studentmati
              studentmati 7 October 2013 23: 16
              +1
              Quote: rotor
              The "spiral" was to be launched into space by a hypersonic accelerator aircraft, and then a rocket stage into orbit.

              A hypersonic booster is still not being built. am


              And why then did Lozino-Lozinsky order Antonov AN-225? Too much excess load capacity to transport Buran
              1. rotor
                rotor 8 October 2013 11: 53
                0
                The reason for the construction of the An-225 was the need to transport various components of the launch vehicle and the Buran spacecraft from the place of production and assembly to the launch site.

                In addition, it was supposed to use the An-225 as the first stage of a multi-purpose aerospace system (MAKS), which required an aircraft carrying capacity of at least 250 tons.

                The development of the MAKS project has been carried out at the Molniya NGO since the beginning of the 1980s under the leadership of G.E. Lozino-Lozinsky.
        3. studentmati
          studentmati 7 October 2013 22: 54
          +1
          Quote: rotor
          It should be noted that Dream Chaser is similar to the X-37C


          And for me it looks like a spiral. Technological espionage in short.
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 7 October 2013 22: 55
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            Sasha people have a certain mindset, thoughts converge laughing good
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 7 October 2013 22: 57
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              This was the first flight of an orbital plane. The launch was made from the Kapustin Yar Cosmodrome. For technical support of the Cosmos-1374 flight, research ships Cosmonaut Viktor Patsaev and Cosmonaut Georgy Dobrovolsky were involved, which under normal conditions provided communication with the Salyut station. After completing one round, the “Spacecraft” splashed down in the Indian Ocean. The spacecraft performed a maneuver of descent with a length of about 600 km. Water flooding was carried out by parachute 560 km south of the Cocos Islands. In the proposed area of ​​splashdown there were 7 ships of the Soviet Navy, which provided a meeting and evacuation of the apparatus. During work on the evacuation of the apparatus by Soviet ships, they were observed by the Australian Air Force reconnaissance aircraft Orion, the crew of which photographed the Spacecraft and its operations. Photo research has shown that there are small portholes in the bow of the Spacecraft, like on a manned spacecraft, and the heat-protective coating of the nose coca, like on the American shuttle, consists of small pieces.
              1. studentmati
                studentmati 7 October 2013 23: 02
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                Quote: Alex 241
                This was the first flight of an orbital plane. The launch was made from the Kapustin Yar Cosmodrome. For technical support of the Cosmos-1374 flight, research ships Cosmonaut Viktor Patsaev and Cosmonaut Georgy Dobrovolsky were involved, which under normal conditions provided communication with the Salyut station. After completing one round, the “Spacecraft” splashed down in the Indian Ocean. The spacecraft performed a maneuver of descent with a length of about 600 km. Water flooding was carried out by parachute 560 km south of the Cocos Islands. In the proposed area of ​​splashdown there were 7 ships of the Soviet Navy, which provided a meeting and evacuation of the apparatus. During work on the evacuation of the apparatus by Soviet ships, they were observed by the Australian Air Force reconnaissance aircraft Orion, the crew of which photographed the Spacecraft and its operations. Photo research has shown that there are small portholes in the bow of the Spacecraft, like on a manned spacecraft, and the heat-protective coating of the nose coca, like on the American shuttle, consists of small pieces.



                I remember that the first information about the tests and the first photos were in the Russian edition of "World of Science"; I remember a scarce magazine, but it was interesting to the point of fainting.
            2. studentmati
              studentmati 7 October 2013 22: 58
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              Quote: Alex 241
              Sasha people have a certain mindset, thoughts converge laughing good


              Five points!!! good
              You and I are generating the same thoughts at the same time! And they say that miracles do not happen.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 7 October 2013 22: 59
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                Sasha’s school isn’t fooling around, as one movie hero used to say. laughing
              2. studentmati
                studentmati 7 October 2013 23: 05
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                Quote: Alex 241
                Sasha’s school isn’t fooling around, as one movie hero used to say. laughing

                Response


                You can’t boil school, you can’t master skill.
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    Alex 241 7 October 2013 22: 21
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    The secret Pentagon unmanned shuttle X-37B will be the prototype for the development of a manned spacecraft with a long flight duration.


    Art Grantz, program manager for Boeing, made a sensational statement: a larger manned space shuttle X-37C will be built on the basis of the X-37B unmanned military shuttle.

    The X-37B is currently performing its second secret 8-month mission in Earth orbit. The first flight lasted 244 days - a record flight duration exceeding that of any reusable spacecraft ever created by man. http://rnd.cnews.ru/news/top/index_science.shtml?2011/10/13/459996
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 7 October 2013 22: 28
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      Thanks, Sasha.
      Reading the article, the first thing that came to mind was the LKS Chelomea and served as the prototype of the X37B.
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 7 October 2013 22: 34
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        Similar opinion Sash !!!!!!!!!
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    for 12 November 2013 22: 06
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    Bravo Sash!
    The third Sasha accept?