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Photo of the Earth from a distance 6 billion kilometers

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Arena of human passions. Progress beam and gray dusk of everyday life. Jerusalem and Mecca of all religions. Crusades, rivers of blood. Kings, courtiers, slaves. The illusion of grandeur and power. Evil, war and love. Saints, sinners and destinies. Human feelings, ringing coins. The circulation of substances in nature. Hermit and superstar. Creators, ideological fighters - here everyone lived their time in order to disappear forever. Wealth, faith and desire for unattainable beauty. Flight of hope, sunset powerlessness. Air castle dreams. And an endless series of news: birth, life is a game with death, a kaleidoscope of all coincidences, go ahead and up! cycle completed. It's time to leave. And ahead of the light of other births. Civilizations and ideas.

The price of all this nonsense is one grain of sand in the void.

... 14 February 1990 of the Voyager 1 probe camera received the last order - to turn around and take a farewell photo of the Earth, before the automatic interplanetary station disappears forever in the depths of space.

Of course, there was no scientific benefit to this: by that time, Voyager was already far beyond the orbits of Neptune and Pluto, in 6 billion km from the Sun. The world of eternal twilight, which the sun's rays never warm. The illumination of those places in 900 is less than the illumination in the Earth’s orbit, and the star itself looks from there a tiny shiny point, barely distinguishable against other bright stars. And yet, scientists hoped to see the image of the Earth in the picture ... What does a blue planet look like from a distance of 6 billion kilometers?

Curiosity took up over common sense, and a few grams of precious hydrazine flew through the nozzles of vernier engines. The “eye” of the orientation system sensor flashed - “Voyager” turned around its axis and took the necessary position in space. The camera drives came to life and grated, shaking off a layer of cosmic dust from themselves (the television equipment of the probe was inactive for 10 years from the moment of separation from Saturn in 1980). “Voyager” turned his gaze in the indicated direction, trying to catch a neighborhood of the Sun in the lens - somewhere there must be a tiny pale blue dot in space. But will it be possible to see anything from such a distance?

Photo of the Earth from a distance 6 billion kilometers


The survey was carried out using a narrow-angle camera (0,4 °) with a focal length 500 mm, at an angle 32 ° above the ecliptic plane (the plane of rotation of the Earth around the Sun). The distance to Earth at that moment was ≈ 6 054 558 000 kilometers.

After 5,5 hours, a snapshot was taken from the probe, which at first did not cause much enthusiasm among specialists. On the technical side, the photo from the outskirts of the Solar System looked like a defective film - a gray nondescript background with alternating light stripes caused by the dispersion of sunlight in the camera's optics (due to the huge distance, the apparent angle between the Earth and the Sun was less than 2 °). On the right side of the photo, a barely perceptible “speck of dust” was visible, more like an image defect. There were no doubts - the probe transmitted the image of the Earth.

However, after the disappointment came a true understanding of the deep philosophical meaning of this photo.

Looking at photographs of the Earth from near-Earth orbit, we have the impression that the Earth is a large rotating ball covered in 71% with water. Clusters of clouds, giant cyclone funnels, continents and city lights. Majestic sight. Alas, from a distance of 6 billion kilometers, everything looked different.



Everyone whom you have ever loved, everyone you have ever known, everyone you have ever heard of, all people who ever existed have lived their lives here. Many of our pleasures and sufferings, thousands of self-confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines, every hunter and gatherer, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every politician and "superstar", every saint and sinner of our kind lived here - on the mote suspended in the sunbeam.

- astronomer and astrophysicist Carl Sagan, opening speech of 11 May 1996 of the year

It is hard to imagine, but our entire huge, diverse world, with its pressing problems, “universal” catastrophes and upheavals, fit on the 0,12 pixel of the Voyager-1 camera.

The figure "0,12 pixel" gives a lot of reasons for jokes and doubts about the authenticity of the photo - did NASA specialists, like British scientists (who, as we know, divided the 1 bits), managed to divide the indivisible? Everything turned out to be much simpler - at that distance, the scale of the Earth really made up the entire 0,12 pixel of the camera - it would be impossible to look at any details on the surface of the planet. But thanks to the dispersion of sunlight, the area where our planet is located looked like a tiny whitish speck of several pixels in the picture.

Fantastic shot and went into history called Pale Blue Dot (“pale blue dot”) - a harsh reminder of who we really are, what all our ambitions and self-confident slogans “Man is the crown of creation” are worth. We are nobody for the universe. And call us in any way. Our only home is a tiny point, already indistinguishable at distances above 40 astronomical units (1 a. Å, ≈ 149,6 million km, which is equal to the average distance from Earth to the Sun). For comparison, the distance to the nearest star - red dwarf Proxima Centauri is 270 000 a. e.

Our posturing, our imaginary significance, the illusion of our privileged status in the universe - they all succumb to this point of pale light. Our planet is just a single speck of dust in the surrounding cosmic darkness. In this great emptiness there is not a hint that someone will come to our aid in order to save us from our ignorance.

Probably there is no better demonstration of stupid human ignorance than this detached picture of our tiny world. It seems to me that she emphasizes our responsibility, our duty to be kinder to each other, to cherish and cherish the pale blue dot is our only home.

- K. Sagan, continued speech



Another great photo from the same series is a solar eclipse in orbit of Saturn. The image is transmitted by the automatic station "Cassini", which is already the ninth year of "cutting circles" around a giant planet. To the left of the outer ring a tiny dot is barely noticeable. Land!

Family portrait

Having sent a farewell picture of the Earth to the memory, Voyager simultaneously transmitted another interesting image - a mosaic of 60 images from different areas of the Solar System. On some of them, Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune "lit up" (Mercury and Mars could not be seen - the first one was too close to the Sun, the second one was too small). In conjunction with the “pale blue point”, these pictures formed a fantastic collage of the Family Portrait (“Family Portrait”) - for the first time humanity managed to look at the Solar System from the side, outside the ecliptic plane!



These pictures of the planets are made through various filters - to obtain the best image of each object. The sun was filmed with a blackout filter and a short shutter speed — even at such a gigantic distance its light is strong enough to damage telescopic optics.

Saying goodbye to the distant Earth, the Voyager camera cameras were completely deactivated - the probe went forever into interstellar space - where eternal mist reigns. There is no need to take more pictures of Voyager - the remaining energy resource is now spent only on communication with the Earth and ensuring the functioning of plasma and charged particle detectors. In the cells of the onboard computer, previously responsible for the work of the chambers, new programs aimed at studying the interstellar medium were overwritten.


Photo of the Sun by a Voyager wide-angle camera from a distance of 6 billion km. Two areas (not to scale) - somewhere there should be a pale blue dot and Venus


36 years in space

... After 23 years after the events described above, the Voyager 1 still floats in the void, only occasionally “turning” from side to side — the engines of the orientation system periodically counter the rotation of the device around its axis (on average, 0,2 angular min./s ), directing a parabolic antenna in the direction of the Earth already hidden from view, the distance to which has increased from six (as of 1990 the year when the Family Portrait was made) to 18,77 billion kilometers (autumn of 2013 of the year).

125 astronomical units, equivalent to 0,002 light years. At the same time, the probe continues to move away from the Sun at a speed of 17 km / s - “Voyager-1” is the fastest of all the objects ever created by human hands.


Before launch, 1977 year

According to the calculations of the creators of Voyager, the energy of its three radioisotope thermoelectric generators is enough for at least 2020 year - the capacity of plutonium RTGs is annually reduced by 0,78%, and, by now, the probe receives only 60% of the original power (260 W against 420 W start). The lack of energy is compensated by the energy-saving plan, providing for shift work and shutting down a number of secondary systems.

The stock of hydrazine for the engines of the orientation system should also be enough for another 10 years (several tens of kilograms H2N — NH2 are still sprinkling in the probe tanks, from 120 kg of the initial stock at the start). The only difficulty - due to the enormous distance of the probe with each passing day, it is becoming more and more difficult to find a dim Sun in the sky - there is a danger that the sensors may lose it among other bright stars. Having lost orientation, the probe will lose the ability to communicate with the Earth.

Communication ... it's hard to believe, but the power of the main Voyager transmitter is only 23 Watt!
Capturing the probe signals from a distance of 18,77 billion km is the same as driving 21 000 for years on a vehicle at 100 km / h, without interruptions and stops, then look back - and try to see the light from the refrigerator at the beginning of the path .


70-meter antenna complex far-field communication in Goldstone

Nevertheless, the problem was successfully solved, by multiple modernization of the whole ground receiving complex. As for all the seeming improbability of communication at such large distances, it is no more difficult than to “hear” the radiation of a distant galaxy using a radio telescope.

Voyager radio signals reach the earth after 17 hours. The power of the received signal is quadrillionths of watts, but this is much higher than the sensitivity threshold of the 34 and 70-meter “plates” of remote space communications. Regular communication is maintained with the probe, the telemetry data transfer rate can reach 160 bits / sec.

Extended Voyager mission. At the boundary of the interstellar medium

12 September 2013 of the year NASA has announced for the umpteenth time that Voyager 1 has left the solar system and entered interstellar space. According to experts, this time everything is without errors - the probe has reached a region in which there is no “solar wind” (a stream of charged particles from the Sun), but the intensity of cosmic radiation has sharply increased. And it happened more 25 August 2012 year.

The reason for the uncertainty of scientists and the emergence of numerous false reports is the absence of viable plasma detectors, charged particles and cosmic rays on board the Voyager - the entire complex of probe devices failed many years ago. The current findings of scientists about the properties of the environment are based only on indirect confirmations obtained by analyzing the incoming Voyager radio signals - as recent measurements have shown, solar flares no longer affect the antenna devices of the probe. Now the probe signals are distorted by a new, never-before-recorded sound — the plasma of the interstellar medium.



In general, this whole story with “Pale Blue Point”, “Family Portrait” and the study of the properties of the interstellar medium could not have happened - it was originally planned that the connection with the Voyager-1 probe would stop in December 1980 of the year, as soon as he left Saturn, - the last planet he studied. From this point on, the probe remained out of work - let it fly wherever it wants it, no scientific benefit from its flight is expected anymore.

The opinion of NASA specialists changed after they became acquainted with the publication of Soviet scientists V. Baranov, K. Krasnobayev and A. Kulikovsky. Soviet astrophysicists have calculated the boundary of the heliosphere, the so-called. heliopause - an area in which the solar wind completely subsides. Then begins the interstellar medium. According to the theoretical calculation, at the distance of 12 billion km from the Sun, a condensation should have occurred, the so-called. “Shock wave” is an area in which the solar wind collides with interstellar plasma.

Interested in the problem, NASA extended the mission of both Voyager probes to a deadline — as long as communication with space reconnaissance aircraft is possible. As it turned out not in vain - in 2004, Voyager-1 discovered the shock wave boundary at a distance of 12 billion km from the Sun - exactly as Soviet scientists had predicted. The solar wind speed has dropped dramatically 4 times. And now, the shock wave is now left behind - the probe has entered the interstellar space. At the same time, some oddities are noted: for example, the predicted change in the direction of the plasma magnetic field did not occur.

In addition, a loud statement about going beyond the solar system is not entirely correct - the probe has ceased to feel the influence of the solar wind, but has not yet got beyond the limits of the gravitational field of the solar system (Hill's sphere) the size of the light year 1 - this event is expected to occur no earlier than 18 000 years.

Will Voyager get to the border of Hill's sphere? Will the probe be able to detect Oort Cloud objects? Can he fly to the stars? Alas, we will never know about it.

According to calculations, Voyager-40 will fly through 000 over the years 1 light-year from the star Gleze 1,6. Further probe path difficult to predict. In a million years the corps of a starship will be bent by cosmic particles and micrometeorites, but the cosmic intelligence officer who has fallen asleep forever will continue his solitary wandering in interstellar space. He is expected to live in the open space about 445 billion years, remaining by that time the only reminder of human civilization.



Based on:
http://www.astrolab.ru/
http://www.nasa.gov/
http://www.rg.ru/
http://www.wikipedia.org/
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  1. xetai9977
    xetai9977 30 September 2013 08: 54
    67
    Hats off to the creators of Voyager hi It took off when I was 11 years old, and my passion for astronomy is directly related to the Voyager mission. Human civilization may disappear into oblivion, but the apparatus will still fly and represent a symbol of human curiosity.
    1. Aryan
      Aryan 30 September 2013 12: 45
      +9
      Among the unthinkable victories of civilization
      we are alone like crucian in the sewers sad
      1. Sashkessss
        Sashkessss 30 September 2013 15: 06
        +7
        Somewhere it was believed that even with the most optimistic predictions about the existence of reason on other planets, we won’t be able to meet them, because on a universal scale, the option to find such a planet is equal to the 1 figure with a huge set of zeros ahead.
        1. postman
          postman 30 September 2013 17: 29
          33
          Quote: Sashkessss
          The option to find such a planet is equal to the number 1 with a huge set of zeros in front.

          You can calculate it yourself (one of the options)
          Drake equation


          - the number of intelligent civilizations ready to make contact;
          - the number of stars formed per year in our galaxy; - the proportion of stars that have planets;
          - the average number of planets (and satellites) with suitable conditions for the emergence of civilization;
          - the probability of the origin of life on a planet with suitable conditions;
          - the likelihood of intelligent life forms on the planet on which there is life;
          - the ratio of the number of planets whose intelligent inhabitants are capable of contact and are looking for it, to the number of planets on which there is intelligent life;
          - the life time of such a civilization (that is, the time during which civilization exists, is able to make contact and wants to make contact).

          There are many opinions on most parameters, here are the numbers used by Drake in 1961:
          R = 10 / year (10 stars formed per year)
          fp = 0,5 (half of the stars have planets)
          ne = 2 (on average, two planets in the system are suitable for life)
          fl = 1 (if life is possible, it will necessarily arise)
          fi = 0,01 (1% probability that life will develop to a reasonable one)
          fc = 0,01 (1% of civilizations can and wants to make contact)
          L = 10 years (technologically advanced civilization exists 000 years)
          The Drake equation gives N = 10 × 0,5 × 2 × 1 × 0,01 × 0,01 × 10 = 000.
          QUOTE:
          Are we alone in the universe? Only categorical stupid fools and deeply religious people who are convinced of the divine origin of intelligent life can say their categorical “YES” to this question.
          Most prominent scientists and theorists agree that there are not hundreds, not thousands, but billions of sentient beings in the universe.

          ====
          note: for what and why you with such stubbornness anonymous put MINUSES- not very clear
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 30 September 2013 20: 59
            +4
            Quote: Postman
            Most prominent scientists and theorists agree that there are not hundreds, not thousands, but billions of sentient beings in the universe.

            - "The Australian scientific journal Cosmos has organized the" Hello from Earth "project, in which anyone can send a free short text message to aliens, presumably living on the planet Gliese 581d in the constellation Libra.
            You can leave your message to the extraterrestrial intelligence on the official website of the project http://www.hellofromearth.net, where you can also find out the basic rules of "correspondence" ...
            It is assumed that the letters will reach their destination in December 2029 "-
            I imagine that these intelligent creatures will think about us after receiving SMS from any Earthling who wants to write them smile
            1. postman
              postman 30 September 2013 21: 18
              +6
              Quote: Odyssey
              It is assumed that the letters will reach their destination in December 2029 "-

              They are lying !!! Insolently.
              1.Do not fall (Gliese 581 d): that the Earth and the Sun (and our Constellation), that Gliese 581 d and the constellations of Libra MOVE both friend relative to other, and in general
              for 20 years, it’s not realistic to calculate the lead.
              It is NECESSARY to radiate not only somewhere but also WHEN !!!!
              2. Not enough power: the effect of power on the range of propagation of electromagnetic waves
              (P = U * I) the signal from the transmitter decreases towards

              Rt is the distance from the transmitter to the target;
              20 LIGHT YEARS (!) estimate the power ....
              it is possible according to this formula:

              Pr is the signal power at the terminals of the receiving antenna;
              Pt is the power of the radio transmitter;
              Gt is the gain of the transmitting antenna;
              Ar (sometimes S) is the effective area (aperture) of the receiving antenna, Ar = G * λ² / 4π, where G is the antenna gain, λ is the wavelength.
              σ is the effective scattering area of ​​the target in a given angle;
              F - loss ratio during signal propagation;
              Rt is the distance from the transmitter to the target;
              Rr is the distance from the target to the receiver.

              3. Interference: what they see (Gliese 581 d) now, was 20 years ago, what will be on the path of the beam for 20 years - HZ, and no one knows.
              NOT REALLY FORECAST (comet, asteroid, dust, ionizing radiation, etc.)
              1. Odysseus
                Odysseus 30 September 2013 22: 17
                +2
                Quote: Postman
                They are lying !!! Brazenly

                Well, thank God that they are lying. Let the inhabitants of Gliese 581 d be blissfully unaware of earthly humanity.
                At least some more time ....
                As for the "Drake formula", its parameters are as arbitrary as it is itself. And the exponent fl is completely tautological. But I like the conclusions from it stated in your post.
                Much more fun to live in a universe filled with billions of intelligent creatures than vegetate alone))
                1. postman
                  postman 30 September 2013 23: 42
                  +1
                  Quote: Odyssey
                  will be blissfully unaware of earthly humanity.

                  yeah .... I have a service mobile: what does not come (SMS) and what is not offered: "we would like to offer you ...."
                  Slizzy would probably get stuck from a flurry of SMS ...
                  By the way a bit left:
                  https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nMw1HxNvJzg/UknT8-z1XMI/AAAAAAAAAlM/KVI-
                  K1eEtDc/w461-h381-no/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BAttt.JPG
                  Sixteen years old .... with a ponytail
                  Quote: Odyssey
                  As for the "Drake formula"

                  Yes, I brought the first thing that came across ..
                  In fact, the more interesting option is not three-dimensional space, but another (4,5,6).
                  Maybe they are nearby, but we don’t feel
        2. Black
          Black 30 September 2013 17: 51
          0
          Quote: Sashkessss
          equal to the number 1 with a huge set of zeros in front.

          1. The number and number, as if varying concepts ...
          2. If you put a million zeros in front of the number 1, the number does not change ... wink
      2. Manul
        Manul 6 December 2017 01: 31
        0
        Quote: Aryan
        we are alone like crucian in the sewers

        So you have to swim out))
    2. ElektriK123
      ElektriK123 30 September 2013 16: 21
      -5
      Good thing, I agree with you, just what is this article on military review?
      1. Aryan
        Aryan 30 September 2013 17: 37
        +3
        ElektriK123
        prepare your sleigh in summer
        and it's time to think about star wars angry
        that's what this article is about

        knowing our human history I am 100% sure
        that our earthly mentality will do so
        that the first contact will end with the first Star War
        unless of course before this star wars begin between earthlings
        (I do not smoke starcraft)
        1. postman
          postman 30 September 2013 18: 14
          +2
          Quote: ElektriK123
          just what is this article on military review?

          "completely agree" with ElektriK123
          whether such articles on TopVar (see below)
          Quote: Aryan
          and star wars it's time to think angry
          that's what this article is about


          Aryan, please explain to me what this article is preparing for:
          "We are present at the process of creating a global dictatorship of homosexuals"
          http://topwar.ru/30344-my-prisutstvuem-na-processe-sozdaniya-mirovoy-diktatury-p
          ederastov.htm

          To the war with fuckers, huh?
          1. Aryan
            Aryan 30 September 2013 19: 34
            0
            Postman, let Wasserman tell you, he knows everything from hi
            the war of govnokomentov has long been waged!
            Which side are you personally?
            when ha * but flies from left to right or from right to left?

            but the Martians are waiting
            hope that we finally quarrel and then arrange the invasion

            and don’t it seem to you that agents of influence of the galactic sect of gamnomoids are also introduced here on the site? wassat
            1. postman
              postman 30 September 2013 21: 01
              +1
              Quote: Aryan
              and don’t it seem to you that agents of influence of the galactic sect of gamnomoids are also introduced here on the site?

              Probably ... I don’t know who the Gamnoids are.
              And about Wasserman, I don’t listen to him, very shocking uncle
              Quote: Aryan
              Which side are you personally?

              I am purely neutral, so make fun of when there is time
  2. Samy
    Samy 30 September 2013 08: 57
    +7
    What can I say ... bravo.
  3. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 30 September 2013 09: 06
    17
    a reminder that nothing lasts forever. in a billion from humanity there will be no trace left, at such a rate of development it will destroy itself much earlier.
    1. 755962
      755962 30 September 2013 19: 01
      +6
      Quote: Blad_21617
      that nothing lasts forever.

      Let Voyager stay on the boundless expanses of the many-sided space in memory of human civilization .... if it doesn't intersect with any thread with a fireball or a stray comet ... maybe someone is lucky enough to read it.
    2. OffenroR
      OffenroR 30 September 2013 20: 34
      +6
      In a billion years, humanity will rule the galaxies .... if in the next 5000 years we do not bring ourselves to extinction ...
      1. Mairos
        Mairos 2 October 2013 15: 24
        +3
        Long live the 1st Galactic Empire !!!
      2. krpmlws
        krpmlws 16 October 2013 17: 32
        0
        Quote: OffenroR
        In a billion years, humanity will rule the galaxies .... if in the next 5000 years we do not bring ourselves to extinction ...

        Dreaming, galaxies have long been divided, we probably left only the solar system for development laughing
  4. Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 30 September 2013 09: 23
    +3
    ndaaa, I wonder if there is life on another star system for 270 AU from the earth?
    and will people be able to create a starship flying at the speed of light as in Star Trek?

    I think the answers to these questions We Earthlings may not know ... or maybe we will
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 30 September 2013 09: 31
      +9
      Most likely, we - commentators will not live to see the flight to Mars. I'm not talking about youth. They have so much fun ahead ....
      1. OffenroR
        OffenroR 30 September 2013 20: 37
        +6
        Do not worry, perhaps in the "next" life you will be the chief of the Ministry of Taxes of Mars ... wassat
    2. UVB
      UVB 30 September 2013 10: 20
      +1
      For interstellar flights, the speed of light is too low; it will take years to fly to the nearest stars at that speed. And in order to accelerate an object weighing only 1 kg to the speed of light, a power exceeding the power of all power plants on earth will be required. So this is only a dream so far.
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 30 September 2013 12: 14
        +4
        Naturally, talking about interstellar flights is foolish with current technology. This is a matter of the distant future.
      2. Andrey57
        Andrey57 30 September 2013 12: 46
        +9
        In fact, theoretical physics and mathematics of multidimensional media have nothing against speeds higher than the speed of light, so maybe our descendants will create such aircraft if they do not break each other to zero before then. hi
      3. Avenger711
        Avenger711 30 September 2013 15: 46
        0
        And here is the power? You can disperse a week and a year.
  5. ddmm09
    ddmm09 30 September 2013 09: 30
    +6
    Let's hope that the contribution of our country to the study and exploration of space will be even more weighty.
  6. Sergeant
    Sergeant 30 September 2013 09: 53
    11
    Much more is spent on the development and creation of various types of Weapons (the goal of which is to destroy all life on Earth, without exception ...) than to study the Cosmos. By and large: who needs it - Space? For thousands of years, the main occupation of mankind is war!
    1. Gato
      Gato 30 September 2013 10: 16
      +5
      Quote: Sergeant
      By and large: who needs it - Space?

      And mankind simply has no other choice - either cosmic expansion, or to remain on Earth and die from degeneration, overpopulation, wars or some kind of cataclysm.
      the main occupation of mankind is war!

      Well, with whom mankind will always find war!
    2. UVB
      UVB 30 September 2013 10: 23
      +1
      At first I wanted to put a minus, and then I thought about it, and if you look from the side at the history of mankind, it very much looks like the truth.
      1. Rider
        Rider 30 September 2013 12: 08
        +7
        Quote: UVB
        and then he thought, and if you look from the side at the history of mankind


        you can see that GLOBAL wars arose when a person lacked a vector of external development.

        if a person remains on Earth, the death of mankind is inevitable.

        and in the shortest possible time.
    3. OffenroR
      OffenroR 30 September 2013 20: 44
      +2
      War is not the main occupation of mankind, but of those who rule it.
  7. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 30 September 2013 10: 13
    +3
    Class. Thank you for the article.
  8. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 30 September 2013 10: 27
    +6
    Yes, humanity at such a distance seems insignificantly small, but does the mere fact that a person managed to get so far away from his cradle not speak of his talent and perseverance?
    I want to believe it, no, I know for sure that humanity will leave its cradle and go out into space. In an infinite perspective, this is inevitable, this is evolution, it cannot stop.
    Refusing internecine strife and rampant consumption, we could speed up this process, but alas, we will have to go in a big circle.
  9. little man
    little man 30 September 2013 10: 33
    +5
    Beautiful article.
    Oleg switched to spaceships? smile
    1. Gato
      Gato 30 September 2013 13: 19
      +4
      Quote: man
      Oleg switched to spaceships?

      Change of subject. Apparently, he decided to take a break from the aircraft carriers, charge positive.
      1. Cat
        Cat 30 September 2013 14: 58
        +9
        Quote: Gato
        Quote: man
        Oleg switched to spaceships?

        Change of subject. Apparently, he decided to take a break from the aircraft carriers, charge positive.

        It remains to catch Kars, Mechanics, and whoever else is maniacing with tanks - yes, kick them well, so that a similar article about lunar rovers with rovers will be written. Then the site will have full feng shui =)
  10. Corrint_25
    Corrint_25 30 September 2013 11: 01
    10
    It is useful to read such articles. Switching to more positive thoughts and actions ... what
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 30 September 2013 11: 03
    16
    Sometimes, looking at such pictures, you understand why the earth is considered a living organism!
  12. Samy
    Samy 30 September 2013 12: 15
    +3
    In general, a curious thought ... if humanity really goes into space, then it may happen that it will create ships that will "catch up and overtake" the old probe that is slowly (17 km per second) floating for itself ...
    1. Rider
      Rider 30 September 2013 12: 35
      +6
      Quote: Samy
      Generally, a curious thought ..


      This idea has long been run in the NF.
      there the participants of the first interstellar expeditions returned to the earth at a time when humanity had already mastered the galaxy.

      I even read a story when astronauts went on an interstellar flight, and spent several local ship months in flight, their descendants intercepted, and reported that about 50 years had passed on earth, and an oversized engine was invented.
      and the star they were going to explore has been colonized for about 20 years.
      1. postman
        postman 30 September 2013 22: 38
        0
        Quote: Rider

        I even read a story when astronauts went on an interstellar flight, and spent several local ship months in flight, their descendants intercepted, and reported that about 50 years had passed on earth, and an oversized engine was invented.

        "Twin paradox"- entertaining physics






        1. Santa Fe
          30 September 2013 22: 43
          +1
          Quote: Postman
          "Twin paradox" - entertaining physics

          again this Einstein is a cardboard fool
          1. postman
            postman 30 September 2013 23: 35
            +1
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            again this Einstein is a cardboard fool

            talk about tachyons and a violation of causation?
            1. Santa Fe
              1 October 2013 23: 02
              0
              faster than the speed of light?
              1. postman
                postman 4 October 2013 11: 23
                0
                Here, causality is more interesting (faster than Sveta Sveta it is commonplace)

                Popular: Lukyanenko, Emperor of Illusions, at the end: about weapons
                1. Santa Fe
                  4 October 2013 13: 20
                  0
                  You mean that they existed before the appearance of the universe?
                  1. postman
                    postman 5 October 2013 01: 16
                    0
                    No, you overestimate yourself smile
                    probably the same to me ...
                    Time is that which prevents the light from reaching us. There is no greater obstacle to God than time (Meister Eckhart).

                    ... "Hunter" was an anti-terrorist robot designed specifically for operations on spaceships and stations. In fact, he became extremely close to ideal.

                    Three independent laser turrets had a radiation power sufficient to penetrate any armor. Guidance systems provided an almost one hundred percent hit, the reaction was even slightly higher than that of a meclon, and the logical circuits had a free behavior program.
                    ... and the Hunter jumped. The enemy didn't stand a chance.

                    The robot flew out of the corridor, seeing how late a man was pointing his emitter, how a Meclone and a cyborg were turning. They did not have time - in any way.

                    The flow of tachyons, inhibited to light speed, arose in the region of the main nerve center. The robot simply ignored this fact - as impossible. He was still trying to give commands for the shot, despite the fact that the metal body had ceased to obey him. His half-intelligent emitters patiently waited for the order to shoot.

                    The tachyon weapon has a special relationship with time. ”Lemak gently stroked the barrel of his own Excalibur. - You know, this gun fires almost a second before you pull the trigger. Are you not admitted to the information of the "Blade" stamp? I sympathize.
    2. Yankuz
      Yankuz 30 September 2013 12: 40
      +8
      Maybe! Someday, humanity on the latest ultra-fast spaceship will simply catch up with Voyager and carefully return it to Earth as an invaluable artifact - to the Museum!
    3. Simon
      Simon 30 September 2013 18: 24
      +1
      Yes, great interesting. They will fly by and say that our distant ancestors created this antediluvian unit and it still works. We will probably be like stone age or antiquity people for us. recourse what .
  13. ed65b
    ed65b 30 September 2013 12: 39
    +3
    a leash wouldn’t fall into the hands of any evil aliens. Alaramists are already scaring.))))
    1. Santa Fe
      30 September 2013 15: 23
      +4
      The Voyager gold plate is a copper information plate recording audio and video signals (116 images), packed in an aluminum case. The plate has a diameter of 12 inches (about 30 cm) and is coated with gold to prevent erosion by cosmic dust. Together with the plate, a phonographic capsule and a needle for playing a recording are packed in a case. The case is engraved with a diagram depicting the installation of a needle on a recording surface, playback speed, and a method for converting video signals into an image. As on the Pioneer record, the radiation pattern of the hydrogen atom is reproduced to obtain metric and temporal units, as well as the pulsar map, which marks the position of the Sun in the Galaxy.

      So such a thing is attached to the board of a space reconnaissance. In my opinion, this is a careless decision)))
  14. George
    George 30 September 2013 12: 44
    14
    Hello all.
    Yes, if not for war, people would already have begun to conquer space. The Yankees made many films about intergalactic communities. They are dreaming, but they cannot live in peace on their planet.
    We are not alone in this endless space, only humanoids are looking at what is happening here, and they think that it is better to stay away from us for now.
    Anecdote
    Two planets communicate. One says:
    - Imagine, people have appeared, they are digging something, erecting something, the itching is incredible.
    The second answers:
    - Do not worry ! I also had. Gone.
    This means that humanity needs to seriously think about its actions so as not to "pass". IMHO.
    1. Santa Fe
      30 September 2013 15: 18
      +6
      Quote: GEORGE
      - Imagine, people have appeared, they are digging something, erecting something, the itching is incredible.
      The second answers:
      - Do not worry ! I also had. Gone.
    2. Ihrek
      Ihrek 30 September 2013 15: 47
      +1
      If mankind did not spend so much effort, human and material resources on wars, then it would conquer deep space long ago.
      1. clidon
        clidon 4 October 2013 20: 21
        +1
        It would still be picked in the caves.
  15. Cat
    Cat 30 September 2013 12: 56
    +4
    They argued so much, they cursed so much about naval ships ... cursed that the whole marine business was tired of this site - and he decided to switch to other spacecraft. With what, in fact, I congratulate you and advise you to continue in the same vein =)))

    The article is a huge plus. Thank Oleg, thank you very much =)
    1. Santa Fe
      30 September 2013 15: 16
      +4
      Quote: Cat
      They scolded to the point that the main marine ringleader of the site was tired of the whole thing - and he decided to switch to other ships, peaceful and space. With what, in fact, I congratulate you and advise you to continue in the same vein =)))

      The article is a huge plus. Thank Oleg, thank you very much =)

      Thank you Dear

      although there are no transitions here, I have a lot of articles about space:

      http://topwar.ru/19304-kosmicheskiy-desant.html
      http://topwar.ru/20429-dalniy-kosmos-raskryvaet-svoi-tayny.html
      http://topwar.ru/32093-polet-na-mars-otmenyaetsya.html



      The landscape on Titan (Saturn’s satellite), was taken by a Huygens probe, but from this link -

      http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/huygens_alien_winds_descent.mp3

      you can hear the wind recording on Titan
      1. Cat
        Cat 30 September 2013 21: 36
        0
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        although there are no transitions here, I have a lot of articles about space:

        Saw, read. But how to say it ... without much emotion. Well, about space, well, interestingly, well, think about it. But this article is different from the previous ones - maybe a little different, so to speak, ideology, or maybe because Sagan’s quotes are very well chosen in the topic - in general, I liked it and hooked =)) If there were more of these =)
  16. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 30 September 2013 13: 05
    +3
    Cosmic dimensions and distances are impressive ... But it is still difficult to imagine all this - "a lamp from a refrigerator at the beginning of the journey" ... wassat
  17. Combitor
    Combitor 30 September 2013 13: 11
    11
    The article and the photos are just great. I have no words. I like to look at the starry sky. The old dream to buy a telescope is not yet feasible. In a good way I envy future generations who will become more accessible the GREAT SECRET of SPACE. Sometimes I find myself thinking that if I were offered to fly THERE even without the possibility of returning back, I would fly. Only in order to find out and see what is THERE.
    PS It is noteworthy that the article was published on a site where a lot of attention is paid to the methods and tools for destroying people themselves. Maybe you should think it over?
    1. does it
      does it 30 September 2013 19: 20
      0
      Quote: Kombitor
      A long-standing dream to buy a telescope is not yet feasible

      so in the store the most affordable 3500 thousand worth.
      1. Combitor
        Combitor 30 September 2013 23: 36
        +2
        [quote = spelling]
        so in the store the most affordable 3500 thousand worth.
        3 - is that theatrical binoculars or what?
        Our more or less normal telescope "weighs" about 20 rubles.
  18. Alexey M
    Alexey M 30 September 2013 13: 55
    0
    It is expected that he will live in outer space for about 1 billion years, remaining by then the only reminder of human civilization.

    I AM A MONUMENT TO ADVISE YOURSELF ... It's a pity the USSR did not launch anything like that.
    1. Rider
      Rider 30 September 2013 14: 54
      +3
      Quote: Alexey M
      It is a pity the USSR did not start anything like this.


      Well, finally, it launched, several automatic stations to Venus and Mars, did not reach the goal and went into space.

      so that in distant space vehicles flying with the inscription of the USSR, on board.
  19. Nomad
    Nomad 30 September 2013 14: 01
    +1
    "Bliss is hidden in the imperishable thought that you are only a particle in the unity of the Universe." I don't remember the author.
  20. zmey_gadukin
    zmey_gadukin 30 September 2013 14: 40
    +5
    Good article. I love to read NF. You read, dream up and somehow forget about the problems. They all seem small and inconsequential ...)
    1. Rider
      Rider 30 September 2013 14: 59
      +4
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      I love NF to read


      as a fan of science fiction, I advise you to read "Lunar Rainbow" by S. Pavlov.
      brilliant Soviet science fiction about conquering extra-terrestrial.
      there the landings on other planets of the solar system are so really described that when you literally feel like you are in a blister of a descent vehicle.
      and extraterrestrial exoticism and the presence of "alien" secrets of "black traces" will keep you in suspense until the very end.
    2. Alyoha
      Alyoha 30 September 2013 16: 33
      0
      Serpent, don’t you know the difference between science and science fiction ?!) There seems to be nothing fantastic here.
      1. zmey_gadukin
        zmey_gadukin 30 September 2013 20: 46
        -1
        Quote: Alyoha
        don’t you know the difference between science and science fiction ?!)

        hmm, for me any article about space - consider it fantastic. )))
  21. Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 30 September 2013 15: 04
    0
    In a thousand years, this probe will be placed in a special capsule that will fly at the same speed as he. It will be a kind of museum of the flying Voyager. And our distant descendants will admire this relic.
  22. Dimy4
    Dimy4 30 September 2013 15: 25
    +1
    They have so much fun ahead ....

    About how many wonderful discoveries the spirit of enlightenment prepares for us ...
    (A.S. Pushkin.)
  23. Ihrek
    Ihrek 30 September 2013 15: 42
    +1
    Only from space can we understand how fragile and defenseless our land is and how beautiful it is.
  24. kaktus
    kaktus 30 September 2013 16: 44
    +2
    "We create fantasy in drawings" S. Korolev. October 4, 1957 the launch of the first Soviet
    artificial earth satellite!
  25. GUSAR
    GUSAR 30 September 2013 17: 08
    +1
    Cool article, how beautiful space is, how little we borrow ...
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 September 2013 17: 27
    0
    The admiration is that Voyager is still working. All the same, if amers do what, then they get the upper class. I do not mean kosoryly handicrafts under amerovsky label. And their satellites live longer and the functionality is more for people.
    1. postman
      postman 30 September 2013 17: 33
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      I do not mean clumsy crafts under Amerov’s label.

      Do not enlighten what it is?
      And then I do not know ...
      I will be grateful
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 30 September 2013 18: 50
        0
        Quote: Postman
        Do not enlighten what it is?

        Most likely Maid and China laughing
        Respected Zomanus obviously not in the know that, at one time, Chinese things were synonymous with quality. lol
        1. postman
          postman 30 September 2013 21: 26
          0
          Quote: Cynic
          Chinese things were synonymous with quality

          Counterquestion:
          you know what (history) turnover means | Made in Germany??
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 1 October 2013 13: 54
            0
            Quote: Postman
            Do you know what (history) turnover of Made in Germany means ????

            Attached to the appearance?
            Now usually _ What kind of label on the product do you need?
            1. postman
              postman 4 October 2013 11: 21
              +1
              I think it will be interesting (for example, I put the Germans on both blades for 7 years in a row)

              In the 15-16th (if not forgotten) centuries in Britain, they were obliged to label all goods of German origin as "Made in Germany"
              Because They were fake for English, but very poor quality and cheaper, so that the consumer would not get confused

              That's how it happens.
              About the quality of German goods I will not repeat now. Everyone knows
  27. postman
    postman 30 September 2013 17: 53
    +1
    [quote = Author] At the same time, the probe continues to move away from the Sun at a speed of 17 km / s - Voyager 1 is the fastest of all objects ever created by human hands. [/ quote]
    ??
    Dear Mr. Kaptsov O.
    Outraged.
    After all, it has long been and is undeniably proved by authoritative scientists (Velors and co):
    http://free-inform.narod.ru/
    http://www.imperiya.by/authorsanalytics19-7936.html
    http://www.economics.kiev.ua/index.php?id=950&view=article
    http://www.economics.kiev.ua/index.php?id=981&view=article
    http://www.economics.kiev.ua/index.php?id=1073&view=article
    / you can continue, but they (articles) are similar to each other, like clones, and the same documents /
    as well as visitors (QUALIFIED MOST) topwar.ru
    / find yourself, and read your comments /
    AMERICANS - WERE NOT ON THE MOON !!!!!
    They didn’t make rocket launchers (and if they did, they were pretty), they didn’t fly into space (and if they did, then like Sheppard) and they buy rocket engines from us.
    From this we can conclude that, despite everything ALL your American philanthropy is a mess, a mirage.
    NO VOYAGE, he didn’t fly to anywhere, he couldn’t reach the speed with a pretty American rocket engine of American origin, SU and automation don’t live as much, PHOTO Fake, fairy tales about the proportion of pixels = there are fairy tales.
    You are misleading the people.
    And the fact that you bring (pictures) - there is a stage version of Hollywood! After all, it can be seen: drawn by felt-tip pen.
    It would be better to write that aircraft carriers are cans, there would be more sense.
    And it’s not for nothing that a competent reader (some) ask themselves:

    [quote = ElektriK123] [quote =] only what this article on military review? [/ Quote]
    And they ask this question correctly
    Here, compare your article and for example this one:
    "We are present at the process of creating a global dictatorship of homosexuals"
    http://topwar.ru/30344-my-prisutstvuem-na-processe-sozdaniya-mirovoy-diktatury-p
    ederastov.html

    compared?
    The conclusion is clearly not in your favor!
    How does your article relate to TopVar (weirdly why did you publish it with her?) Compared to the above-mentioned topical topic?
    WHAT IS MORE ACTUAL (INTERESTING, COGNITIVE)? Ask ElektriK123 yourself
    ?
    wink
    The other day, you asked me to get into the library of the Congress of the USA, on the topic Project Longshot, I (in violation of federal law) pulled out a folder of documents with a signature stamp for you ...
    WHAT WILL YOU WRITE TO WRITE? Again the glorification of American science and technology?
    1. Simonov
      Simonov 30 September 2013 19: 43
      0
      Read carefully V. Pelevin "Omon Ra". Think and re-read again. This is our answer to Hollywood.
      1. postman
        postman 30 September 2013 20: 37
        +1
        Quote: Simonov
        Read carefully V. Pelevin "Omon Ra".

        what?
        what article are you talking about?
        to this:
        http://topwar.ru/30344-my-prisutstvuem-na-processe-sozdaniya-mirovoy-diktatury-p

        ederastov.html

        Note: Vita doesn’t have to write in the spirit of a Zenbuddy Allegory, if his father really taught at the military department MВTU them. Bauman, it was enough to visit the department "E1." or go to the Dmitrovsky polygon
        Quote: Simonov
        Think

        Over what (think that)?
    2. Santa Fe
      30 September 2013 21: 18
      +1
      NASA's famous whistleblower, the charlatan and ignoramus, Vasily the Postman, once again had his hand in reversing the American space program.

      However, this time Herr Postman really caught the Americans by the hand and brought the rotten office of NASA into the clear. Arguments with links to authoritative sources: Yuri Mukhin, Arkady Veluurov, Alexander Popov, do not leave doubts:

      the Yankees have never been to the Moon, and the entire mission of the Voyager is a cheap theater performance at the intersection of 54 Street and Broadway

      Where did hundreds of kilograms of lunar soil disappear?

      the Apollo spacecraft in reality was an unmanned repeater of signals from the Earth, therefore all the "records" of Soviet tracking stations are deliberately erroneous

      voyager's mission is a long-term money laundering program, no Voyager interplanetary station (like its colleagues - MESSENGER, Cassini, New Horizons) has ever existed, NASA "specialists" are building 70-meter antennas (useless trash) at an exorbitant price commoners with tales of a 35-year flight to the outskirts of the solar system
      Quote: Postman
      Here, compare your article and for example this one:
      "We are present at the process of creating a global dictatorship of homosexuals"
      compared?
      The conclusion is clearly not in your favor!

      so he is also a homophobe! Aren't you ashamed of yourself, Herr Postman?
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      2. postman
        postman 30 September 2013 21: 45
        0
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        Aren't you ashamed of yourself, Herr Postman?

        ashamed of me .....
        ==========
        Yesterday, when Live Steel was on STS, at the scene when the boy's dad (owning a combat robot) was kicked by three (for a money debt), well, do you remember, my youngest (9 years old) yelled: "Oooo purulent 3,14 dora"...
        With fright, my wife smashed the dishes and probably would torture him (son) with lectures ("and if you blurt out that at school ... I'll burn out of shame" ... I had to intervene:
        "Son, don't talk like that, it's better when you put it on, say: Scheiße Schwule"
        ... anyway, no one knows German like that.
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        no Voyager interplanetary station (like his colleagues - MESSENGER, Cassini, New Horizons

        the project "Big Tour" didn’t CONSIST !! (Congress, Padla cut finances by 1/3)
        ARE YOU IN THE COURSE THAT NO Voyagers should have been?
        Now they would receive the signals “Mariner-11” and “Mariner-12”, 13 and 14
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        "NASA is building

        This is our road thirty times, and the Olympics too (see picture if it sticks below)
        250 000 000 $ for Voyagers or 850 000 000 $ FOR ALL (!) In the prices of 1990 SPEAR
        1. Santa Fe
          30 September 2013 22: 19
          0
          Quote: Postman
          well, do you remember, my youngest (9 years old) yelled: "Uuuuu festering 3,14doors" ...

          and then! prize-winner of the All-Russian Olympiad in Russian
          Quote: Postman
          when you say: Scheiße Schwule "

          stinkfix sounds great
          Quote: Postman
          This is our road thirty times, and the Olympics too (see picture if it sticks below)
          250 000 000 $ for Voyagers or 850 000 000 $ FOR ALL (!) In the prices of 1990 SPEAR

          Then what did NASA spend 800 billion on (for all its existence)?
          1. postman
            postman 30 September 2013 22: 30
            +1
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            Then what did NASA spend 800 billion on (for all its existence)?

            Hollywood must be considered ......
            1. Santa Fe
              30 September 2013 22: 35
              0
              incredible anyway

              if one of the expensive (700 tons of LV), complex and long missions cost 0,8 billion, where did the rest of 799 go?
              1. postman
                postman 30 September 2013 22: 44
                0
                Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                where did the remaining 799 go?

                1. You do not consider INFLATION
                2. There are many attractive projects, such as:
                Capricorn One

                3.Iliproshuttle
      3. 12061973
        12061973 30 September 2013 21: 50
        0
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        Arkady Velurov

        this is a character from "Pokrovskie gates"
        1. postman
          postman 30 September 2013 22: 03
          +1
          Quote: 12061973
          this is a character from "Pokrovskie gates"

          not only .. as it turned out, he also understands space exploration.
          this man refutes, something even the MAIL of the USSR believed:
  28. Black
    Black 30 September 2013 18: 01
    0
    Only expanding the horizons of knowledge (and along the way of ignorance), a person is probably busy with exactly what God or Nature intended for.
    Amers applause for the Voyager flight!
  29. yacht
    yacht 30 September 2013 18: 43
    +2
    Really BRAVO !!! And it is a pity that our space program was lowered below the plinth, and astronomy at school was replaced by the "word of God."
    PS I do not understand those who put the "-" article, for what? Even if there are any errors, is that essential? For the essence of the greatest accomplishment of mankind is conveyed in the article very correctly.
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    2. Santa Fe
      30 September 2013 20: 49
      +2
      Quote: yacht
      I do not understand those who put the "-" article, for what?

      three trip from another planet
  30. saag
    saag 30 September 2013 19: 02
    0
    It’s cool to read, as if science fiction, but as for the possibility of interstellar travel of people, I’ll give an example that seems to be irrelevant - for example, in all science fiction, say, of the Soviet period, and foreign, including there was no mention of cell phones, there were mini radios, video telephones were , wired, but there were no cellular ones, I mean that tomorrow we can invent something we don’t expect today, people don’t have the ultimate knowledge of nature, so there are still quite a few surprises.
  31. Simonov
    Simonov 30 September 2013 19: 32
    0
    Glory to the American designers and engineers! Among them are many descendants of Russian emigrants of the first wave, carriers of the academic Russian technical school. The most famous are Zvorykin, Sikorsky, Ponyatov.
  32. Sobol
    Sobol 30 September 2013 19: 40
    +2
    But I have such a ship -
  33. uzer 13
    uzer 13 30 September 2013 20: 06
    0
    Videos shot by Vodger’s cameras could be found on torrents in documentary sections. And the discs were also sold. I don’t know how pirated, but I saw these films with my own eyes. It’s especially interesting about the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.
  34. postman
    postman 30 September 2013 20: 22
    +3
    AUTHOR-AU !!! ??
    The topic is not disclosed ... NO
    Quote: Author
    Voyager 1 is still floating in the void only occasionally "Tossing and turning" from side to side

    Both Voyagers are equipped six pairs of trusts (hydrazive corrective propulsors). 3 of them are basic, 3 are spare. Voyager 2 had previously switched to spare pairs through two channels, and now they are followed by a third. This will save 12 watts by turning off the main line fuel line heater. The engines of the main set have worked 318000 times. Voyager 1 switched to a spare set in 2004 after 353000 operations.
    if there are more than 300 positives, this is "occasionally", then what does "often" mean ????
    In 2011, the Voyager project began occasional temporary re-orientations of the spacecraft (totalling about 10-25 hours every 2 months) to re-align the Low-Energy Charged Particle instrument on board Voyager 1 so that it could measure meridional flow.
    2. The technical characteristics of these devices, created in the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, are RETRO by themselves, moreover retro, UNIQUE WORKING MORE THAN 35 years:
    The amount of operational computer memory of each of the "Voyagers" is only 68 kilobytesmoreover, photographs, on-board telemetry and other heavy information were recorded on-board 8-track tape recorders ..
    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    So such a thing is attached to the board of a space reconnaissance. In my opinion, this is a careless decision)))

    I WILL YOU DISAPPEAR !!!! MORE!
    to read the gold disks, aliens will also need older equipment such as a gramophone - a needle and a special cartridge, who also fly aboard the Voyagers.
    3.
    Quote: Author
    the absence on board the Voyager of working detectors of plasma, charged particles and cosmic rays - the entire range of probe devices has failed many years ago.

    SERIOUSLY?
    five remaining scientific instruments in operation - measure the parameters of the magnetic field, solar wind and cosmic radiation
    This data (end of processing September 06, 2012) DOI: 10.1038 / nature11441 likely fake?



    (note data on dates, pictures)
    1. postman
      postman 30 September 2013 20: 26
      +2
      Quote: Postman
      Topic not disclosed ... NO
      Part No.2
      4. About the connection ... I remember an article in Science and Life from a decrepit year:
      How the Americans solved the problem of signal compression is a special data compression algorithm (lossless), and they reprogrammed already in flight (if my memory serves me right), when it became clear that the amount of information (photos) would have to be transmitted for weeks.
      With rapprochement with Uranus and Neptune, scientists switched to a more powerful coding of Reed - Solomon
      5.
      Quote: Author
      According to the calculations of the Voyager creators, the energy of its three radioisotope thermoelectric generators will be enough, at least until 2020 - the power of plutonium RTGs decreases annually by 0,78%, and, to date, the probe receives only 60% of the initial power (260 W versus 420 W at start)

      By 2000, it (energy) was no longer enough for the operation of an ultraviolet spectrometer. will only be included from time to time. When you turn on any of the field and particle analyzers, the rest of the devices are turned off.
      6. About the launch vehicle "Titan 3E-Centaur" with a starting weight of about 700 tons
      1. postman
        postman 30 September 2013 20: 27
        +3
        Quote: Postman
        Topic not disclosed ... NO

        Part No.3
        7. About the "parade of planets": At the turn of the 70s and 80s, all the giant planets were successfully located in a relatively narrow sector of the solar system (The last time such a "meeting" took place 180 years ago) and gravity assist (Distances to planets - giants are so huge that even modern means of terrestrial astronomy are powerless in front of this endless distance).
        http://www.astrogalaxy.ru/foto001/foto0866.gif
        8. About accuracy: From the Earth, it is possible to very quickly find the speed of the device. Radial velocity (projection of velocity onto the line of sight) is determined by the Doppler effect with accuracy of 2 cm / s at a vehicle speed of about 16 km / s. The sensitivity of the method is so high that, for example, long before approaching the planet, scientists realized that the accepted mass of Uranus, incorporated into the calculations, must be increased of 0,3%to bring the calculations in line with the observed Doppler increments. and it is at SUCH (!) distance
        9. About communication:
        The device is connected to the Earth through two radio transmitters with frequencies of 2295 MHz (wavelength 13,1 cm) and 8418 MHz (3,56 cm). Each of them is duplicated for reliability. The power of each transmitter is only 23 watts.
        Quote: Author
        Regular communication is maintained with the probe; the telemetry data rate can reach 160 bps.

        Not true!
        up to 115,2 kbps from Jupiter
        up to 45 kbps from Saturn
        up to 4,6 kB / s from Neptune, then, when they installed new 34-meter antennas, and huge 64-meter bowls in the USA, Spain and Australia were extended to 70 m. As a result, with the same reliability of the radio link the data transfer rate from Neptune was increased from 4,6 to 30 kbps (to increase reliability, a speed of 21,6 kbps was used).
        Engineers are worried that the main generator lamp has already exhausted its life, the transmitter switched to the backup one. There are no substitutes for her.
        10. On the cost (for 1990): Today, all the costs of the project, which include launch missiles, the entire ground-based radio complex and proximity operations, including proximity to Neptune, amounted to 865 million dollars.(Ms. Vasilieva and Taburetkin-Au? Roscosmos-au?)
        A conference and a round table were held in the memorial auditorium of von Karman with the participation of NASA leadership and scientists who told about the history and future prospects of the mission (its video can be viewed here:
        http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl2

        http://www.nasa.gov/voyager

        In terms of duration and productivity, the Voyager project is one of the most (and perhaps the most) outstanding experiments carried out by HUMANITY (it doesn't matter the Americans or us) in space in the last quarter of the XNUMXth century.
        1. Santa Fe
          30 September 2013 21: 58
          0
          Quote: Postman
          7. About the "parade of planets": At the turn of the 70s and 80s, all the giant planets were successfully located in a relatively narrow sector of the solar system

          In vain because of Titan, the Voyager-1 trajectory was changed (because they warned that there was nobody there, the dead world of nitrogen and methane). Should repeat the Voyager-2 route
          Quote: Postman
          As a result, with the same reliability of the radio link, the data transfer rate from Neptune was increased from 4,6 to 30 kbit / s (to increase reliability, the speed of 21,6 kbit / s was used).

          such infa met on atrolab.ru (it seemed to me outdated)
          but other sources stubbornly reiterate about 160 bps - a possible reason for the discrepancies is the modernization of the ground receiving complex?

          But what about the Reed-Solomon code, which allows you to compress data 5 times?
          Quote: Postman
          In terms of duration and productivity, the Voyager project is one of the most (and perhaps the most) outstanding experiments carried out by HUMANITY (it doesn't matter the Americans or us) in space in the last quarter of the XNUMXth century.

          Instead of photographing the Earth, it would be better to look for another earth. And we will immediately send Phobos-Grunt there and collect Voyager with a laser
          1. postman
            postman 30 September 2013 22: 13
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            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            In vain because of Titan, the Voyager 1 trajectory was changed (they warned that nobody was there, the dead world of nitrogen and methane).

            What are they like poop couple should walk?
            The real flight scheme of the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 vehicles

            Thanks to this, "in vain" only pluto left without a visit from the Earth
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            about 160 bps - a possible cause of discrepancies - modernization of the ground receiving complex?


            No. ALL CASE IS RELATED TO DISTANCE (I gave a correlation)
            And you don’t have to go far: Iridium and Megafon GSM (be it wrong): data transfer rate ???
    2. Santa Fe
      30 September 2013 21: 45
      +1
      Quote: Postman
      The engines of the main set have worked 318000 times. IN

      once an hour on average
      most likely, when carrying out a planetary mission, they turned on more often than now
      Quote: Postman
      SERIOUSLY?
      five remaining scientific instruments in operation - measure the parameters of the magnetic field, solar wind and cosmic radiation

      so it was indicated on one of the topics. sites seemed to me believable

      pictures - where it is indicated that these are special sensors, and not indirect measurement results, based on the characteristics of the radio signals (signal / noise, Doppler shift, etc.)
      Quote: Postman
      note on the pictures data, dates)

      Wow. At first I thought someone had a cardiogram straightened)))
      Quote: Postman
      and reprogramming made already in flight

      moreover, I remember there a memory cell flew (on one of the Voyagers)
      Quote: Postman
      launch vehicle "Titan 3E-Centaur" with a launch weight of about 700 tons

      Backward Technology Werner von Braun
      We have Satan (P-36M, 211 tons) capable of throwing a warhead on Mars
      1. postman
        postman 30 September 2013 21: 58
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        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        once an hour on average

        And you said something about the engines there ...
        WELL KA, WELL KA -DETAILED PLIZ !!
        (watch him chichas in the wiki will climb info dig)

        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        Backward Technology Werner von Braun

        Oh well.
        he (the baron) was dismissed under Saturn, and he did not work either with solid propellants (YuA-1205 and Star-37), or with aerosin 50 mixed with amyl, he was a good guy, he was good for the environment (alcohol and oxygen , hydrogen and oxygen)
        Martin Marietta is all about his hands and brains.
        1. Santa Fe
          30 September 2013 22: 01
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          Quote: Postman
          And you said something about the engines there ...
          WELL KA, WELL KA -DETAILED PLIZ !! (watch him chichas in the wiki will climb info dig)

          What for?
          in year 8600 hours
          36 mission duration
          divide 318 thousand by ~ 300 thousand hours = 1 inclusion
          1. postman
            postman 30 September 2013 22: 28
            +1
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            What for?

            I thought you understood what I’ll tell us about:
            -iridium catalyst "Shell-405", which is applied to porous granules of the carrier substance, which is alumina.
            - about what is necessary, in order to maintain the catalyst package of the LRE, to heat it (ALL TIME) to a temperature of about 320 ° C (otherwise a large number of starts of hydrazine LRE with a cold catalyst leads to its destruction and loss of quality).
            - About the guaranteed resource in 450 000 launches
            - about the KEA16-6 LPRE of the Hamilton company (Skynet) and the MEE-4A LPRE of the Thompson-Rameau-Woldridge company (intellect-3)
            - that, when switching from hydrogen peroxide to hydrazine, the specific impulse LRE increased by about 40%. TO


            oh tyyyy. bored
            1. Santa Fe
              30 September 2013 22: 40
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              Quote: Postman
              about what is necessary, in order to maintain the catalyst package of the LRE, heat it (ALL TIME) to a temperature of about 320 ° С

              How so? With a total power output of 260 W
              presumably vernier engines at least 4-6
              Quote: Postman
              - About the guaranteed resource in 450 000 launches

              I have a Chinese cherry keyboard - 8 million keystroke guarantee
              tongue
              Quote: Postman
              about КЕА16-6 LRE from Hamilton (Skynet) and MEE-4 LRE from Thompson-Rameau-Woldridge (Intellectual-3)

              how about the Soviet "Meteors" with an ion engine?
              Quote: Postman
              - that when switching from hydrogen peroxide to hydrazine, the specific impulse of the LRE increased by approximately 40%. TO

              so what's the problem?
              Quote: Postman
              oh tyyyy. bored

              not a "world dictatorship of homosexuals", of course

              but the question was simpler - 318 thousand inclusions over 36 years. Often or not?
              1. postman
                postman 30 September 2013 22: 54
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                Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                How so? With a total power output of 260 W

                Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                presumably vernier engines at least 4-6

                16 !!!!!
                1.You forget about the sizes:



                in such a toddler (with a draft of 0,9 kg), it’s easy to create 360gs on a fishing line using ... using electric current

                2. In a vacuum, the problem is NOT HEATED (they don’t freeze there, especially an example of a vacuum with a vacuum flask), the problem of heat release (there is no convention, you can’t save yourself with ablation), ONLY BY RADIATION
                (for reference: tales that the "Skif" was equipped with a combat laser - and there are tales ... A heat source was installed on the skiff (1,6 kW if I am not mistaken), there were NO radiators)
                1. Santa Fe
                  30 September 2013 22: 59
                  0
                  Quote: Postman
                  16 !!!!!

                  including backup kit?
                  Quote: Postman
                  the vacuum problem is NOT HEATED (they don’t freeze there, especially an example of a vacuum with a vacuum flask)

                  but the fishing line is in contact with the rest of the unit, it must be assumed to be cooled to -200 degrees
                  1. postman
                    postman 30 September 2013 23: 31
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                    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN

                    including backup kit?

                    Yes, send the scheme?
                    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                    but the fishing line is in contact with the rest of the unit, it must be assumed to be cooled to -200 degrees

                    -What did you get that "fishing line" was wound around the apparatus?
                    -What is the heat transfer h / w 0,5 mm.kv?
                    WHERE THE FIGURE IS 200GRS ??????
                    - the temperature of the relict radiation that permeates the entire universe and remains from the Big Bang - 4.2 Kelvin.
                    - at a distance from Solna in 1 astronomical units (this is just the Earth’s orbit) the vacuum temperature will be approximately + 15 degrees
                    Recall Skylab Station:
                    - the SB did not open, torn off (at start) a piece of thermal insulation, by May 25 the temperature inside rose TO 53 ° C, outside to 96 ° C and THIS IS 150 000 000 km from the sun, in vacuum at an altitude of 435 km above the Earth
                    THANKS:
                    -reorientation, that would be the axis to the sun (reduce the area)
                    handmade umbrella

                    And in skylab, among other things, an artificial oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere (74% oxygen and 26% nitrogen) with a pressure of 0.35 atm (convention), the atmosphere is not provided for the comonauts in the voyager - a continuous vacuum, a thermos

                    -200 ° C ... Well, maybe in the summer of 1500, you’ll cool where the thread is halfway to the A-Centauri
                    1. Santa Fe
                      1 October 2013 00: 00
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                      Quote: Postman
                      - at a distance from Solna in 1 astronomical units (this is just the Earth’s orbit) the vacuum temperature will be approximately + 15 degrees

                      How so Mr. Postman?
                      What other 15 degrees is the temperature of the vacuum?

                      temperature is just a consequence of the movement of molecules, in a vacuum it should lose its meaning ...?
                      Quote: Postman
                      the temperature of the relict radiation that permeates the entire universe and remains from the Big Bang - 4.2 Kelvin.

                      what does "radiation temperature" mean? request brief educational program, pliz
                      Quote: Postman
                      - the SB did not open, torn off (at start) a piece of thermal insulation, by May 25 the temperature inside rose TO 53 ° C, outside to 96 ° C and THIS IS 150 000 000 km from the sun, in vacuum at an altitude of 435 km above the Earth

                      this is solar radiation.
                      in orbit of Neptune, illumination is lower by 900 times. it’s scary to imagine what’s going on at 18,77 billion km
                      1. Cpa
                        Cpa 1 October 2013 02: 52
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                        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                        temperature is just a consequence of the movement of molecules, in a vacuum it should lose its meaning ...?

                        The heating of the surface can be due to ions and other particles, as in a tube or lamp.
                      2. postman
                        postman 1 October 2013 12: 21
                        +1
                        Quote: KPA
                        The heating of the surface can be due to ions and other particles, as in a tube or lamp.

                        or EMW (electronic magnetic radiation, waves), or gamma rays, etc.
                    2. postman
                      postman 1 October 2013 03: 11
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                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      temperature is just a consequence of the movement of molecules

                      C'mon, say the same thing
                      you have concepts: thermophilic
                      AS a minimum (with the concepts that you operate on): T- THIS MEASURE CHARACTERISTICS MOTION OF MOLECULES, and no consequence whatsoever, moreover, it is NEVER connected


                      maybe she (T) is a measure of energy?

                      Radiated by the body energy is proportional fourth degree him temperature

                      and the Stephen-Boltzmann Law

                      us about the same
                      Yes, and P. L. Kapitsa chewed it many times
                      A change in temperature is judged by a change in other physical properties of bodies (volume, pressure, electrical resistance, EMF, radiation intensities and etc.)
                      GIVE ME A VACUUM IN WHICH NO: photons, other radiation
                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      which means "radiation temperature

                      see above, what is the temperature, and how is it related to energy \ power

                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      this is solar radiation.

                      YES: In Earth orbit, the intensity of solar radiation is more than a kilowatt per square meter.
                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      in orbit of Neptune, illumination is 900 times lower.

                      I do not know, did not check
                      but if 1000W / 900 times = we get 1,11vat per meter sq
                      + reflected from Neptune, Uranus, Pluto, Jupiter, etc. Solar radiation
                      + from Alpha Centauri
                      + etc.
                      The PRINCIPLE is not small, although of course you can’t boil the water, but the joke is that there is NO HEAT SLEEVE, practically (too low for heat radiation (discharge) TEMPERATURE(this is to the question of temperature and molecules)
                      What do you think BLINDS WHY HIM (VOJADER)?
                    3. Santa Fe
                      1 October 2013 22: 57
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                      Postman, You are a Titan

                      Thank you for recalling a physics course. But I'm confused
                      Quote: Postman
                      Kaptsov just doesn’t get it

                      Let's say there is a Skylab. Surface area S. degree of blackness epsilon. Initial temperature at output to DOE - 500 K

                      solar radiation power - 1100 W / sq. meter (the path is acquired by 30%, the rest is effectively reflected)

                      Skylab should become a double boiler in a minute ... heat dissipation? where? all around 1100 W / sq. meter, everything is permeated by the radiation of the sun
                      Quote: Postman
                      What do you think BLINDS WHY HIM (VOJADER)?

                      What blinds?
                    4. postman
                      postman 2 October 2013 04: 37
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                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      Postman, You are a Titan

                      I'm more of a "Stoic" (T. Dreiser), although "Titan" I liked more ...
                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      let's say

                      You decided to make my brain
                      why
                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      around 1100 W / sq.
                      ??
                      1. The sun is a point source (150 mln km possible)
                      2. Skylab does not hang m / y Earth and the sun, it revolves around the west:
                      - goes into her shadow (there is no 1100W / m behind her)
                      - goes into the shadow of the moon
                      - behind the "shadow" of Skylab (own) there are no rays of the Sun
                      -t.k. the irradiated surface rotates
                      (note that the Americans did it when everything refused: - turned the butt to the Sun and hung the man-made Umbrella, t began to fall 53 (IN) to 36, were able to work
                      3.Skylab is not a plate for you, turned PLANE to the Sun, it is a cylinder:
                      - angle of incidence to normal = angle of reflection (bring EPG)
                      4. Cooling system-radiators, heat rejection
                      What we (or rather they) had: did not open SB + (p.5 _) = the temperature became
                      grow.
                      5. Thermal protection (tore off the panel during the output, the temperature began to rise, see section 4)

                      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                      What blinds?

                      ordinary, as you have on the window .... or as on the Mariner

                      Most instruments are mounted on a special bracket, some of them mounted on a scanning platform


                      Temperature control system uses blinds on five sides of the body and on the scanning ... as well as multilayer thermal insulation, protective screens made of polished aluminum and special treatment of external surfaces.
                      = the problem is not in the cold-PROBLEM IN HEAT (there, in St. Petersburg, let’s say everything is na-obort)
                      -------------------------------------------------- -----------------

                      16 !!!
                      The executive bodies of the system are 12 micromotors (4 on each axis) with a thrust of 0,9 N. 4 more of these micromotors provide path correction.
              2. Cpa
                Cpa 1 October 2013 02: 48
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                Quote: Postman
                the temperature of the relict radiation that permeates the entire universe and remains from the Big Bang - 4.2 Kelvin.

                This is just -268.8 celsius.
                1. postman
                  postman 1 October 2013 13: 33
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                  Quote: KPA
                  This is just -268.8 celsius.

                  I did not deny this.
                  Kaptsov simply does not cut into the concept of temperature, placing the thermometer for a sufficiently long time at the point in space where there is (be) Voyager, we get this result, for some time
  • postman
    postman 30 September 2013 22: 14
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    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    pictures - where it is indicated that these are special sensors, and not indirect measurement results, based on the characteristics of the radio signals (signal / noise, Doppler shift, etc.)


    In the plasma complex were dplasma detector, low energy charged particle detector, cosmic ray detector. On board there were also magnetometers of high and low sensitivity and plasma receiver. In addition, "free application" to the scientific complex was apparatus radio system. Without any special appliances, by the nature of the change in the radio signal when the device approaches the planet, the basic parameters of the atmosphere of the celestial body are determined.
  • cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 30 September 2013 20: 43
    +4
    Some of you guys are all relaxed and pacified on this thread, even butting, as it were intelligent, thanks to Oleg for the article. good yes
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 30 September 2013 22: 23
      +3
      Quote: cherkas.oe
      Some of you guys are all relaxed and pacified on this thread, even butting, as if intelligently

      So the article is good and the topic is appropriate. Love for the study / exploration of outer space is one of the features of Soviet man (and regardless of political preferences).
      Now people, of course, are changing, but the fire under the ashes is still burning.
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 1 October 2013 13: 31
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        Quote: Odyssey
        but the fire under the ashes is still burning.

        That's for sure, it’s on.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 30 September 2013 20: 49
    +2
    Great article, bravo Oleg!
    You almost managed to paraphrase old Pascal "The eternal silence of these endless spaces terrifies me."
    But still your pessimism about humanity is very controversial. Yes, the Earth is only a small planet in an infinite universe. But on Earth, as a result of evolution, organic life appeared, and then intelligent life (human). Does all this infinite dead matter make sense the absence of living matter capable of giving it meaning?
    In the end, your "universal pessimism" is a purely human invention. There is no realistic truth in it that opens the eyes to the fleeting fate of mankind. This is just one way of looking at the world, one of the possible worldviews.
    In a word, Man, it sounds proud! (the truth looks disgusting smile )
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 1 October 2013 13: 42
      +2
      Quote: Odyssey
      This is just one way of looking at the world,

      Probably the universe created man unceasingly evolving matter in order to admire himself with his eyes, soul and mind.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 1 October 2013 20: 40
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        Quote: cherkas.oe
        Probably the universe created man unceasingly evolving matter in order to admire himself with his eyes, soul and mind.

        Well said ! If I am not mistaken by philosophers, this is called the anthropic principle.
  • Agent 008
    Agent 008 30 September 2013 23: 21
    +3
    Guys, on a quiet moonless night, turn off the Internet and TV, go outside, and in complete silence turn your eyes to the clear night sky ... When I see the stars shine and imagine that only light from them goes to the earth for millions of light years, it’s just breathtaking ... And keeping your eyes on the monitor, of course, it’s hard to imagine the greatness of our universe ... And to the author +, a good article ...
    1. Santa Fe
      1 October 2013 00: 03
      +1
      Quote: Agent 008
      Guys, you need to turn off the Internet and TV on a quiet moonless night, go out into the street, and in complete silence fix your eyes on the clear night sky ...

      Quote: Agent 008
      And with one's gaze fixed on the monitor, of course it’s hard to imagine the greatness of our universe ...

      We explore space in a comfortable apartment
      Blizzard of pixels building other worlds ...
  • Lissa
    Lissa 1 October 2013 00: 09
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    Quote: Sashkessss
    Somewhere it was believed that even with the most optimistic predictions about the existence of reason on other planets, we won’t be able to meet them, because on a universal scale, the option find a similar planet is equal to the number 1 with so many zeros ahead.


    At the moment, three planets have been found in different solar systems, on which, according to astronomers, life is possible. Those. these are earth-like planets. Unfortunately, mankind has not yet learned to travel at the speed of light, and the distance to them is several tens of light years.
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  • UVB
    UVB 1 October 2013 08: 13
    +1
    Quote: Avenger711
    And here is the power? You can disperse a week and a year.

    Have you attended physics classes at school? To achieve a certain speed, you need to spend a certain energy, regardless of time. Simply, with slow acceleration, energy will be consumed more slowly, but its amount will be required the same.
  • dimon-media
    dimon-media 1 October 2013 11: 16
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    It’s sad somehow .. I can’t even believe that this probe leaves forever from its native solar system. Once again, I am convinced how reliably they used to do the technique.
  • Anatoli_kz
    Anatoli_kz 1 October 2013 13: 15
    0
    I just can not imagine - how at a distance of 6 billion kilometers you can even see the Earth even in small pieces?
    Does the little Voyager have such a powerful telescope?
    What kind of camera resolution should it have? He is not sending a film to the earth, but a number.
    Draw a triangle with an acute angle of 2g. and side to the Earth 6 billion km
    What should the earth be on a scale to this triangle?
    Earth is not a star, it does not emit a powerful stream of light.

    More forgery seems to be a little fantasy.
    How can one identify "without a doubt" that this is the Earth?
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 3 October 2013 21: 09
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      Quote: Anatoli_kz
      How can one identify "without a doubt" that this is the Earth?

      By the variability of the orbit (dusty orbital traces of different colors).
      Earth - distorted Shem la - like a ship. It periodically changes its orbit with distance from the Sun (soon another leap is coming).
      Voyager’s picture is valuable in that it makes this process visual - the Floods period of 13 years is too long for memory. In other celestial bodies of the Solar System, this ability is not expressed (long to explain).
      A rare case of truth from NASA - bite your elbows.
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      2. Anatoli_kz
        Anatoli_kz 5 October 2013 10: 39
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        Thanks for the additional info.
        Quote: Volkhov
        By the variability of the orbit (dusty orbital traces of different colors).

        But this is not the answer to the question.
        From such a distance, it cannot be said that this is a point of the Earth. One can only assume that this is the Earth. This, technically, in my opinion, cannot be done from a picture from Voyager. Or a rastoniya not 6 Billion km
        6 million km still wherever it went.
        1. Santa Fe
          5 October 2013 15: 12
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          Quote: Anatoli_kz
          Or rastonie not 6 BILLION.km
          6 million km still wherever it went.

          Have you ever led Saturn in the night sky? A bright dot of golden color, much brighter than the surrounding stars. But before it is much more than 1 billion km !!!

          Moreover, the capabilities of Voyager equipment far exceed the sensitivity of the human eye:
          1. telescopic optics
          2. exposure (unlike us, the camera is able to receive radiation for several minutes, forming a single picture)
          Quote: Anatoli_kz
          I just can not imagine - how at a distance of 6 billion kilometers you can even see the Earth even in small pieces?

          Elementary

          All planets except Mercury and Mars (the first is too close to the sun, the second is poorly located - far from the Sun + small size = too dim object). The dwarf planet Pluto, of course, is also not visible.
  • nod739
    nod739 1 October 2013 13: 28
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    Quote: OffenroR
    In a billion years, humanity will rule the galaxies .... if in the next 5000 years we do not bring ourselves to extinction ...


    We’ll finish it and start almost from the beginning,
    and the descendants will look at the next pyramids, and think what is it? and in myths the memory of the gods who had smashing wands and celestial chariots will remain, and they fought among themselves, sweeping away everything essential with fire
  • avg
    avg 1 October 2013 13: 38
    0
    Yes, someone runs the Voyagers, someone in Syria eats living people.
    All this humanity is called.
  • 270580
    270580 1 October 2013 14: 21
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    Quote: OffenroR
    In a billion years, humanity will rule the galaxies .... if in the next 5000 years we do not bring ourselves to extinction ...



    and Voyager 1, will be in the Cosmonautics Museum at the All-Russian Exhibition Center =)
  • nod739
    nod739 2 October 2013 11: 09
    +1
    you're just a speck of dust in the vastness of the universe
    huge size - not for you
    he is submissive only to thoughts not perishable
    so that you do not start, life is short.
    here and now - an attribute of your life
    universal scope - the destiny of only the gods
    space overpowered by science fiction only
    but from the point of the universe .. - nonsense of fools ...
  • dixonis
    dixonis 2 October 2013 19: 53
    +1
    The article is wonderful. I really liked it. Thanks a lot to the author! yes
  • dropout
    dropout 3 October 2013 11: 46
    +1
    The author has a HUGE plus. And what are all the smart ones on the site gathered, already horror.
    But honestly, the article inspired some sadness.
  • kirpich
    kirpich 4 October 2013 16: 05
    0
    Although I do not like Americans, BUT, I bow to this!
    They made a breakthrough equal to the flight of Gagarin, and even more.
    They led humanity beyond the limits of the solar system.
    RESPECT !!!
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