Air Force of the Islamic Republic of Iran

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The Iranian air force is considered an independent type of armed forces, which also includes air defense forces. Also, their own air force has the corps of the guards of the Islamic Revolution (IRGC).

The air force has 12 airbases, including ten fighter and two transport. They serve as the base for 12 squadrons of transport and 25 combat aviation, 2 helicopter squadrons, about 10 aircraft and helicopter control and communications units, as well as 10 search and rescue units.

During the reign of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, who supported the United States - in the 70 of the last century - the Iranian air force was the most equipped in the Middle East. In particular, they were armed with X-NUMX F-79 aircraft, moreover, a contract was signed that provided for the supply of X-NUMX units of F-14.



The Islamic revolution and the rupture of relations with America led Iranian aviation to decline. There was no supply of F-16, and soon the Air Force stopped receiving parts.

After the 1979 revolution, modern Iranian Air Forces were created on the basis of the Shah Air Forces, which immediately faced considerable difficulties. In particular, the United States imposed an embargo on the supply weaponsthat deprived the Iranian fleet of spare parts. At that moment, mainly American helicopters and aircraft were in service. In addition, the new government perceived former officers of the Shah’s army with suspicion, so many experienced pilots and commanders were repressed.

In any case, the Iranian air force played an important role in the early part of the Iran-Iraq war, which began on September 22 of the year 1980.

Attempts by Iraqi military to destroy enemy air units in the airfield territories failed. During the week after the outbreak of hostilities, Iranian aircraft (F-5 “Tiger II”, F-4 “Phantom II”, F-14 “Tomcat”) had to make many sorties to bomb a number of economic and military facilities in Iraq, including in Baghdad.

Iranian aviation caused significant damage to the Iraqi rear system, which significantly slowed the pace of the Iraqi army.

In April, the Iranian Air Force managed to conduct one of the most successful operations on 1981. During a raid on the territory of Western Iraq, several dozen enemy aircraft were destroyed at one of the airfields. However, by this time, the activity of the Air Force began to decline, and after 1982, they had almost no effect on the course of the hostilities. The units lacked spare parts, so the technicians were engaged in “cannibalization”, dismantling helicopters and airplanes. In turn, this has steadily reduced the number of vehicles ready for combat sorties. In 1983, Iranian pilots could lift about a hundred cars into the air. This deplorable situation persisted until the end of hostilities, although some secret arms transfers from the United States and Israel were carried out.

At that time, the Iranian Air Force preserved, including the incapacitated, 60 F-5 from 169, 70 F-4 from 325, and 20 F-14 from 79.

Satellite image of Google Earth: F-14 fighter jets of the Iranian air force, Isfahan airfield


After the end of the Iran-Iraq war, attempts were made to replenish the fleet of combat aircraft. The purchase of 60 F-7М (the Chinese version of the MiG-21F) in China, however, could no longer be considered a modern weapon.

The next purchase is the purchase in the USSR of MiG-29 fighters and Su-24 front-line bombers. In 1992, Russia supplied the 8 MiG-29 and 10 Su-24. In 1994, Ukraine supplied 12 An-74.

An unexpected replenishment happened at the beginning of 1991, when, during the fighting in the Persian Gulf, most of the aircraft of the Iraqi Air Force moved to Iran, trying to escape from the allied aviation. Iran did not want to return these aircraft, believing that this is a kind of reparation for the consequences of the eight-year war. Some of these aircraft became part of the Iranian Air Force.

Satellite image of Google Earth: Su-25 attack aircraft of the Iranian Air Force


In the 1991 year in Iran to send a large number of aircraft from Iraq: Su 24-24, 24 «Mirage», 20 Su-22, 7 Su-25, 4 Su-20, 4 MiG-29, 4 MiG-25, 7 MiG 23ML, 1 Mig-23UB, 4 Mig-23BH, as well as some others.

But the lack of an established service system and spare parts, as well as experienced pilots and technicians, did not allow most of the aircraft to become part of the Air Force. According to some information, 4 MiG-29, 10 “Mirage F.1”, 24 Su-24, 7 Su-25 were adopted.

Fighter Mirage F.1 Iranian Air Force


Since 80, China has been engaged in the supply of aircraft to Iran, and from 90, Russia and some other CIS countries have been added to it.

Therefore, now in the aviation fleet of the Iranian Air Force there are American, Soviet, Russian, Chinese, French and Ukrainian aircraft, as well as several of their own unique developments.

Satellite image of Google Earth: aircraft F-14, MiG-29, Su-22 Iranian Air Force, Tehran Airport


As part of the fighter and fighter-bombers are 60 F-14A (of which only 20-25-bodied), 35 MiG-29, 45 F-5E / F, 10 «Mirage F-1», 60 «phantom-2», 24 F-7M and others.

Air Force of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Light attack aircraft Tazarv


Attack aircraft is presented by 30 Su-24М, 24 Su-20 / 22, 13 Su-25, 25 Tazarv is a light attack aircraft produced in Iran.
In parts of the reconnaissance aviation has 6-8 RF-4E «phantom-2», 5 P-3F «Orion», 2-3 RC-130H, 1 Adnan (Baghdad) - airplane AWACS based on the Il-76MD, 4-5 Dornier 228 (naval aviation), 15 Cessna 185.

Satellite image of Google Earth: DRLO aircraft and PTS C-130 Iranian Air Force


Aviation training is represented by 26 Beech F-33А / С Bonanza, 45 PC-7 Turbo-Trainer, 10 EMB-312 Tucano, 7-9 T-33, 8 Socata TV-21 Trinidad, 25 MCH, as-set, as-set, as-an-th, X-NXX, 17 Socata TV-4 Trinidad, 200 MH, asph as-set, as-an-th; XNUMX Tobago.

In parts of transport aviation there are 12 IL-76, 4 Boeing 707-3J9C, 1 Boeing-727, 5 Boeing 747, 11 An-74; 10 Fokker F27, 14 An-24, 15 HESA IrAn-140.
In addition, approximately two hundred Bavar-2 light seaplanes manufactured in Iran are used in parts of Iranian aviation.

The composition of the helicopter fleet turned out to be no less variegated. Armed with shock units are approximately 50 HESA Shahed 285, 100 Bell AH-1 Cobra. Multipurpose and transport parts are equipped with 100 UH-1 / Bell-205 / Bell-206, X-NUMX SH-10D Sea Stallion, 53-CH-20C Chinnuk, 47 Shabaviz 25.

In addition, a large number of unmanned aerial vehicles, including strike ones, are produced in Iran. The heaviest of these is the Karrar UAV, capable of carrying a ton of payload. For reconnaissance operations, the Ababil UAV is used. Medium Series drones The Mohajer is used for reconnaissance and targeting laser munitions.

Shock UAV Karrar


Note that Iran is actively developing and creating its own samples of combat aircraft.

The Iranian classification of fighters has some differences from the global, as the determining factor is the time of creation, and not certain features and characteristics.

The first generation is represented by the HESA Azarakhsh fighter, which was created in the 90's. The second generation is the Saeqeh fighter. At the same time, Saeqeh is a deeply modernized Azarakhsh. Both aircraft also show features of the Northrop F-5E of American production, which was shipped to Iran in the 70s.



The development of the first fighter in Iran began in the second half of the 80-s. The aircraft was named "Lightning" - "Azarakhsh". Work on it was carried out in the company IAMI (Iran Aircraft Manufacturing Industrial, also known as HESA) together with the Shahid Sattari University and the specialists of the Iranian Air Force. The main reason for the start of their own development is the loss of the ability to acquire modern aviation equipment abroad, primarily in the United States. In 80-ies, Iranian designers have not yet gained the necessary experience, so the development of "Lightning" was delayed. The first prototype was lifted into the air only by 1997 year.

Azarakhsh is somewhat larger than the F-5E: 17.7 m length, wingspan - 9.2 m. The Iranian fighter received a wing area of ​​approximately 22 sq.m. Its maximum take-off weight is 18 tons with its own weight without a combat load of 8 tons.

Two Russian-made RD-33 turbojet engines are used as power units, the maximum thrust of which is 8300 kgf. In 2007, Iran signed a contract for the supply of fifty such engines for a total amount of 150 million dollars.

The maximum speed of Azarakhsh is 1650-1700 km / h with a power reserve of 1200 kilometers.

In the serial version of the crew consists of two people. Their jobs are one after another. Different sources contain different masses of the payload of the aircraft, as well as its weapons. This parameter ranges from 3500 to 4400 kilogram. The aircraft is equipped with a Russian radar H019ME "Topaz".



Since the first flight, about thirty Molniya aircraft have been launched, and their electronic equipment has been modernized several times. Airplanes of this type have significant differences from each other, which greatly complicates their maintenance.
By the time of test flights "Lightning" has already begun a deep modernization of the machine. The aircraft of the second generation was named “Lightning strike” - “Saeqeh”.

In 2001, information appeared about the construction of the first Saeqeh prototype, but it only went up to the sky in May 2004.

The main difference from the previous car - the aircraft became single. Major changes affected the tail section, which received new contours and a second keel. The refusal of the second crew member allowed to reduce take-off weight without changing the engines and avionics. The weight of an empty Saeqeh is 7800 kg, and the maximum take-off weight is 16800 kg. Flight and technical characteristics were also improved: the speed increased to 2050-2080 km / h, and the flight range increased to 1400 km.

The test program of the new aircraft became more successful, therefore, already in 2007, the pilots of the Iranian Air Force demonstrated new Lightning Strikes at the parade. And in September, 2007, they were officially adopted.



Over the next six years, about 30 of such aircraft were launched. But, against the background of large-scale write-offs of American aircraft, this is clearly not enough.

February 2 The 2013 of the year was presented a promising Qaher-313 fighter of Iranian production. This event was timed to commemorate the Islamic revolution that took place in 1979 year.

The Iranian military avidly talked about the great combat potential of the machine, which is not only almost imperceptible on radar, but also equipped with advanced onboard solutions in radio electronics.



The main feature of the new aircraft is a small effective reflecting area, which makes it subtle for enemy radar installations. Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi said that the properties of a fighter can effectively conduct combat operations at low altitudes. At the same time, according to the project manager of Qaher-313 Hassan Parvaneh, only Iranian components are used in the aircraft.

The general public presented the aircraft with a rather strange appearance. It has an integral layout, a “duck” scheme is also used, which implies excessive forward horizontal tail, a wing of a normal sweep, the tips of which are deflected downwards by 50-65 degrees, as well as the “ruined” keels. Appearance turned chopped, apparently, to reduce the visibility on the radar. Another engineering solution - besperepletny lantern.



Vahidi noted that high-tech materials and advanced electronics were used in the construction of the aircraft. The machine can use Iranian-made high-precision ammunition. Another feature of the aircraft is the ability to take off and land from small runways.

However, even after the loud statements of the Iranian military, when you look at the plane shown on the Iranian TV channels and news agencies, you get the feeling that it is not able to take off. The fighter has such a small nose that it is not clear where the radar station could be located there. In the published pictures, you can see a primitive dashboard, which suggests that it was not even a prototype, but simply a layout.

It is worth noting that, in general, the technical solutions used to create them are quite interesting, but they still leave strange sensations.
The aircraft looks more like a large model than a full-fledged fighter. In addition, Iran has not received information on world technical developments for several decades now, and therefore doubts arise about the claims of breakthrough technologies by Iranian scientists. Iran practically does not have its own developed industry and scientific potential.

Apparently, the main purpose of such a demonstration is to raise the morale of ordinary people in Iran.

In the case of the start of full-scale clashes with the forces of the United States and allies, the Iranian Air Force will most likely fail to do anything significant. The relative small number, outdated equipment, the lack of the required number of modern means of destruction - all this will not allow aviation units to provide effective cover for troops and ground infrastructure, as well as attack US bases on the opposite shores of the Persian and Oman gulfs.

The situation could be corrected by procuring modern combat aircraft abroad. But to adjust deliveries from the USA or Europe is simply impossible.

The balance of forces in the region could change a few dozen modern Su-30MK2 aircraft with weapon sets. But after the disruption of the supply of C-300P airplanes to Iran, for which the contract was terminated under pressure from Israel and the United States, this option is hardly possible.

Materials used:
http://www.airwar.ru/history/af/iran/iran.html
http://www.waronline.org/mideast/iran/airforce/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qaher-313
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  1. +11
    9 July 2013 07: 56
    Thanks for the review. But with aviation, Iran is not very))
    1. Truth-lover
      +8
      9 July 2013 12: 16
      But the radio-controlled models, the largest in the world
  2. +5
    9 July 2013 07: 57
    By the way, in the course of the Iran-Iraq war, such a reliable case was recorded when an Iraqi (our) MI-24 helicopter shot down an Iranian F-14 with a phalanx ATGM missile.
    Iran itself currently has 5 aviation industry enterprises, mainly engaged in the repair and maintenance of aircraft and helicopters. They independently produce, as already indicated in the article, a fighter based on the F-5, a light transport IrAn-140 (under the license of Ukraine), it is planned to produce about 140 aircraft, light helicopters (analogues of Bell 205 and 206) called Shabaviz 2-75 and Shahid-278 (the production capacity of the Iran Helicopter Support and Rynuval Company is estimated at 20 such aircraft per year), a light training aircraft based on the PC-7 (about 400 aircraft are planned to be produced), and the Tazavr training aircraft. Objectively, Iran is not yet able to provide itself with the necessary amount of combat aircraft.
    1. Yarbay
      +8
      9 July 2013 08: 18
      *** In addition, Iran has not received information on global technical developments for several decades, so there are doubts about the statements about breakthrough technologies by Iranian scientists. Iran has practically no own developed industry and scientific potential. *** -What nonsense ????
      Iranian students study and graduated from those faculties of universities in many countries of the world and have access to the latest knowledge !!!
      As for the scientific potential, the authors, like many Jews, are deeply mistaken!
      The scientific potential is quite high, but the industry is not developed, so there is no sense in scientific potential!
      1. +1
        9 July 2013 12: 02
        Alibek, tell me, what have the Jews to do with it?
        1. Yarbay
          +2
          9 July 2013 13: 05
          Quote: Pimply
          Alibek, tell me, what have the Jews to do with it?

          Eugenius already said there below)))
          I mean Professor and Rumatu for more !!
          They stubbornly do not want to see scientific progress in Iran, apparently reading your press!
          I understand that Israeli Jews are misinformed!
          1. +8
            9 July 2013 14: 10
            Iran has a good science school. And dynamically developing. However, it is greatly limited by sanctions. In a number of areas they have a serious lag, and the inability to reduce the gap. That's all.

            I don’t remember any derogatory articles about Iranian science in the Israeli press.
            1. Yarbay
              +3
              9 July 2013 14: 59
              Quote: Pimply
              Iran has a good science school.

              I agree, but in medicine they have an incredible breakthrough!
              Many of our country go to be treated and operated on in Iran-quality and much cheaper than ours!
              A lot of physicists and chemists study abroad, including in European countries, do you know this, then, what restrictions can we talk about (in science) ??
              They simply cannot establish production in any way, for this they need high-precision machines, but where can I get them ?? Where can I get materials for production? Who doesn’t sell!
              Dismantling factories and machine tools from bolts from Armenia, but this is the day before yesterday!
    2. +7
      9 July 2013 13: 44
      According to other information, it was not an F-14, but a Phantom, and it was shot down not by a slow Phalanx ATGM, but by machine-gun fire.
  3. +3
    9 July 2013 09: 09
    Yes, and they do not need it, against Israel and the United States and 300 modern aircraft will not help, pilots need to be trained, and this is years and means. But nuclear missiles can stop aggressors from invading. After all, a single nuclear explosion is enough for Israel to become uninhabitable.
    1. Yarbay
      +4
      9 July 2013 10: 14
      Quote: Tuzik
      , pilots need to be taught


      Just then the pilots are quite qualified!

      1. smersh70
        +2
        9 July 2013 11: 50
        Quote: Yarbay
        Just then the pilots are quite qualified!



        after such a landing - the front chassis is just not needed when landing .... fellow
      2. +7
        9 July 2013 12: 18
        If you want to live, you will not be so hot, although the pilot is a fine fellow, of course, he saved so many lives, but he is a civilian pilot who has an order of magnitude more flying time compared to the average pilot of the Air Force. About the potentials I will say that I completely agree with Orty the mentality of Iranians generated by the "peculiarities" of the society of a religious state does not contribute to the development of progress, for example, the Hindus understood this (I mean the division of society into castes) carried out a number of social reforms (some, not how popular) and the result is known. And from the Iranian side, there are generally no active attempts that It seems that the Iranian government relies more on nuclear weapons of the "dirty" type (which will not be good for everyone, and by the way, by the way) and on the sacrifice of its own people. However, the military-political structures of the United States have faced manifestations of such sacrifice for the last 40 years, as then got used to, Iraq, Libya is an example.
        1. Yarbay
          +6
          9 July 2013 13: 03
          Quote: Argon
          however, this is a civilian pilot with an order of magnitude greater flying time relative to the average pilot of the Air Force

          In Iran, civilian vessels are usually piloted by former military pilots!
          1. +4
            9 July 2013 15: 28
            Well, you must admit that not everyone goes after serving as pilots in civil aviation, and the skills of air defense must be constantly maintained. In general, I want to say that this feat does not reflect the level of training of the average pilot of the Air Force.
            1. Yarbay
              +2
              9 July 2013 16: 41
              Quote: Argon
              Well, you must admit that not everyone goes after serving as pilots in civil aviation, and the BP skills must be constantly maintained

              Yes, I agree, BUT 100 percent of their civilian pilots are former military !!
              And there’s nowhere for a simple Iranian to study as a pilot in Iran!
              Quote: Argon
              In general, I want to say that this feat does not reflect the level of training of the average pilot of the Air Force.

              I agree in general!))
  4. +7
    9 July 2013 09: 11
    Quote: Yarbay
    *** In addition, Iran has not received information on global technical developments for several decades, so there are doubts about the statements about breakthrough technologies by Iranian scientists. Iran has practically no own developed industry and scientific potential. *** -What nonsense ????
    Iranian students study and graduated from those faculties of universities in many countries of the world and have access to the latest knowledge !!!
    As for the scientific potential, the authors, like many Jews, are deeply mistaken!
    The scientific potential is quite high, but the industry is not developed, so there is no sense in scientific potential!

    What does the Jews have to do with it? No industry? Iran has been battling with the United States for about 40 years. During this time, they could have built the industry, a normal aviation industry, but somehow they did not work out. They remind me with their Hindu fighters, but they have a corral about tanks. How many years have they launched their Arjuna? And still nothing !! And those and those like independent states, there is money, there is a population, there are resources too, but all nichrome does not work !!! In the best case, an example of the technology of the 70s is obtained. You say industry, but if we are talking about aviation, the first thing you need to create a school of engine building, but this is not, everyone on the RD-33 fly. It’s better not to recall the prodigy of the wunderwaffe at all, it’s even noticeable that the plexiglass lamp. I would be glad if the IRI could create the Air Force capable of becoming a bone in the throat of the Yankees, but so far it’s all show off in the Oriental style, who communicated with the natives of the Middle East will understand what I mean.
    1. Yarbay
      +2
      9 July 2013 10: 11
      Quote: Orty
      What does the Jews have to do with it?

      Reading here the comrades from Israel, I see that they do not quite objectively imagine the position of things in Iran and the scientific potential of modern Iran!
      Quote: Orty
      No industry?

      no industry, in poor condition!
      Quote: Orty
      And those and those like independent states, there is money, there is a population, there are resources too, but all nichrome does not work out !!

      and scientists won’t come out, they just appeared, but there are no necessary materials to create this or that, and no one is selling!
      Quote: Orty
      You say industry, but if we are talking about aviation, the first thing you need to create a school of engine building, but this is not, everyone on the RD-33 fly.
      I did not say industry))))))
      these are your speculations))) but in the rest I agree!
      1. +1
        9 July 2013 16: 21
        Don't be blunt, right? "Scientists have just appeared" for 40 years already two generations of these same scientists could be nurtured, including so that they could cook something according to the strength of materials, but all the same, it suggests that nothing will come of nichrome!
  5. +4
    9 July 2013 10: 45
    The industry cannot be raised due to sanctions, under such conditions they still maintain good combat readiness.
  6. smersh70
    0
    9 July 2013 11: 54
    By the way ---- in 1996, it seems the Armenians shot down an Iranian transporter flying over Nagorno-Karabakh from Moscow .... it seems - the S-130 was ... killed except for the crew ... also the leadership of the Iranian Air Force ....
    1. Yarbay
      +3
      9 July 2013 13: 09
      Quote: smersh70
      by the way ---- in 1996, it seems the Armenians shot down an Iranian transporter flying over Nagorno-Karabakh from Moscow .... it seems - the S-130 was ... killed except for the crew ... also the leadership of the Iranian Air Force ...

      In 2010 or 2009, as a result of the Tu-154 crash flying from Yerevan, a group of air defense generals died!
    2. Gari
      +1
      9 July 2013 20: 04
      Quote: smersh70
      By the way ---- in 1996, it seems the Armenians shot down an Iranian transporter flying over Nagorno-Karabakh from Moscow .... it seems - the S-130 was ... killed except for the crew ... also the leadership of the Iranian Air Force ....

      And here the Armenians, why do you always drag Armenians, I am always impudent lies and provocation
      1. smersh70
        0
        9 July 2013 22: 38
        Quote: Gari
        And here the Armenians



        yes because they shot down - maybe you deny ... but THIS (B) ACT !!!!!!!!!! hi
        1. Gari
          +1
          10 July 2013 09: 24
          What you say is not a fact — where are the facts, to carry such nonsense, how and why did an airplane with promoted Iranian officials fly from Moscow to Tehran fly through a combat zone?
          Were there no other corridors?
          And Iran would have swallowed the death of such high-handed leaders?
          The nonsense and provocation that you and all your fellow tribesmen carry against my nation!
          1. smersh70
            -3
            10 July 2013 10: 26
            Quote: Gari
            what are you talking about is not a fact, where are the facts, carry such nonsense



            why about the corridor you ask me, ask the pilots .. and the dispatchers .. but the fact remains
            The incident with the Iranian C-130 (1994) - the destruction by the Armenian forces [1] of a military transport aircraft C-130 of the Iranian air force with families of Iranian diplomats on board over Nagorno-Karabakh, near the city of Stepanakert, on March 17, 1994.
            and on board the aircraft were families of employees of the Iranian embassy in Moscow, heading to Tehran for the celebration of Novruz [1] [2] [3] [4].

            Before deviating from the course and entering the airspace above Nagorno-Karabakh, the crew reported mechanical malfunctions. After some time, the aircraft crashed.

            At a press conference, First Deputy Foreign Minister of Armenia Zhirair Libaridyan stated that the plane was supposed to proceed to Iran via Russia, Georgia and Armenia. However, he deviated from the course about 100 km east and, having left the Georgian airspace, was not over Armenia, but over the war zone around Nagorno-Karabakh [5].

            The Iranian embassy in Moscow said that as a result of the crash, all 19 passengers, including 9 children, and a crew of 13 people were killed [5]. The remains of Iranian citizens who died during the crash were taken to Armenia and sent to Tehran from Zvartnots International Airport in Yerevan. The ceremony was attended by Vice President of Armenia Gagik Harutyunyan and Deputy Prime Minister of Armenia Vigen Chitechyan.

            To establish the circumstances of the tragedy, Iran created a special commission of the Air Force. The head of the commission, Abdat Aminian, rejected the version of the vice-president of Armenia, Gagik Harutyunyan, that the plane lost control and crashed into the ground due to a malfunction of the flight control system. An Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman said that "for unknown reasons, after deviation from the course, it exploded in the air [6]."

            Aminian stated that the plane was shot down by two missiles fired by Armenian armed forces, and noted that the Armenian side did not take responsibility for the incident, but admitted that its troops mistook the Iranian aircraft for Azerbaijan and did not even try to establish contact with the crew for elucidation of its affiliation [7].

            In an official statement issued by the Iranian Foreign Ministry on the results of the work of the Air Force Commission, the blame for the destruction of a military transport aircraft was assigned to the Armenian forces. The statement noted that "Iran reserves the right to file a claim and receive compensation for the victims of the disaster and calls on the Armenian leadership to identify and punish those responsible for the destruction of the aircraft [8] [9]."

            The Ministry of National Security of Azerbaijan provided the Iranian side with the interception of radio communications made by the Azerbaijani intelligence on the day of the disaster. One of the interception phrases was: “We just shot down an Azerbaijani military plane [10].” Azerbaijani intelligence believes that the aircraft was shot down by the Osa homing missile. Some Russian experts suggested that the Iranian aircraft deviated from the course for an intelligence mission [11], but the Iranian Foreign Ministry rejected these assumptions.
      2. +3
        10 July 2013 11: 04
        Quote: Gari
        And here the Armenians

        Quote: Gari
        And here the Armenians

        Hi Harry
        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82_%D

        1%81_%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BC_C-130_(1994) - вот ссылка
        but an excerpt from there "Aminian said that the plane was shot down by two rockets fired by Armenian armed formations, and noted that the Armenian side did not take responsibility for the incident, but admitted that its troops mistook the Iranian aircraft for the Azerbaijani and did not even try establish communication with the crew to find out its affiliation [7].
        In an official statement issued by the Iranian Foreign Ministry on the results of the work of the Air Force Commission, the blame for the destruction of a military transport aircraft was assigned to the Armenian forces. The statement noted that "Iran reserves the right to file a claim and receive compensation for the victims of the disaster and calls on the Armenian leadership to identify and punish those responsible for the destruction of the aircraft [8] [9]."
        The Ministry of National Security of Azerbaijan provided the Iranian side with intercepts of radio communications made by Azerbaijani intelligence on the day of the disaster. One of the interception phrases was: “We have just shot down an Azerbaijani military plane [10]”. The intelligence of Azerbaijan believes that the aircraft was shot down by an Osa homing missile. Some Russian experts suggested that the Iranian aircraft deviated from the course to carry out a reconnaissance mission [11], but the Iranian Foreign Ministry rejected these assumptions [12]. "
        And here is even more interesting "Before leaving Tehran, Harutyunyan admitted the fact of the destruction of the Iranian plane" by mistake ", but did not indicate those who made this mistake"

        Do not believe Wikipedia (evil Azerbaijanis rule everything there)
        here is another link: http://www.skywar.ru/karabakhinc.html
        and here is an excerpt: **** The C-130 plane of the Iranian Air Force carrying diplomats and their families was mistaken for an Azerbaijani combat aircraft and was shot down by a missile of the Osa SAM system of the Karabakh Self-Defense Forces over the village of Mektishen at 22:30.
        1. smersh70
          +1
          10 July 2013 11: 25
          Quote: kotdavin4i
          Do not believe Wikipedia (evil Azerbaijanis rule everything there)



          and he’s all on the drum laughing he does not believe the facts .....)))
          1. Gari
            +1
            10 July 2013 20: 36
            Quote: smersh70
            and he’s all on the drum, he does not believe the facts .....)))

            In general, the topic was completely different, but you, as always, drag in Armenians, don’t know how to make us monsters
            I ask you, and in this pack the Armenians?
            Cons put a lot of heroism!
            1. smersh70
              0
              10 July 2013 21: 49
              Quote: Gari
              What you say is not a fact — where are the facts, to carry such nonsense, how and why did an airplane with promoted Iranian officials fly from Moscow to Tehran fly through a combat zone?
              Were there no other corridors?
              And Iran would have swallowed the death of such high-handed leaders?
              The nonsense and provocation that you and all your fellow tribesmen carry against my nation!



              hi HARRY ... this is what you wrote .... I answered you !!!!)))) I really pierce my eyes) and now add on other questions ...))) and the matter was about the losses of the Iranian Air Force ... . here and gave in (c) about..and what's bad ..... knocking something bad .. especially the neighbors)))) and where was the vaunted air defense of the NKAR ... if they even can’t tell the transporter from the fighter) )))))
              1. Gari
                0
                11 July 2013 01: 38
                Quote: smersh70
                where was the vaunted air defense of NKAO ..

                According to the transmitted and so interested in the site
                http://www.skywar.ru/karabakhinc.html
                Karabakh air defense shot down
                Mi-24 -8 combat helicopters
                Su -25--2
                MiG-21-3
                MiG-25PD - 1
                Nagorno-Karabakh air defense was in place
                1. smersh70
                  +1
                  11 July 2013 13: 54
                  Quote: Gari
                  Karabakh air defense shot down



                  in a war as in a war ..... our planes are not plates of aliens to fly forever ...... but you all the same lost the argument))) and then left completely the other way))) ... by the way then at least there are these airplanes, but you do not have them at all fellow .besides the improved aircraft of the 5th generation AN-2 (Armenian) winked
                  1. Gari
                    +1
                    12 July 2013 14: 36
                    Quote: smersh70
                    but you’ve lost the argument)

                    First, you and I are not up to you, especially after you always speak out about my nation without respect, war is war, but you have to respect
                    secondly, I just didn’t lose, because I repeat nowhere, nowhere except this site did I find information about the Iranian plane,
                    Quote: smersh70
                    . By the way, we at least have these planes, but

                    and then there were, so what read above,

                    Quote: smersh70
                    VAs doesn’t have them at all. well, apart from the improved 5th generation aircraft AN-2 (Armenian)

                    what we have, then our An-2 or else, that just ringing and trembling all over the world, all the more we’re not going to face you, there will be a war, God forbid of course, and I also know perfectly well that nobody will fight you either wants and is not going to
                    Good luck
                    1. smersh70
                      0
                      12 July 2013 15: 02
                      Quote: Gari
                      Nowhere except this site did not find information about the Iranian plane,


                      so you just had to go into google or vikipedia and that's all))) and not deny))) well, as VIL said, study, study and study again!)))

                      Quote: Gari
                      you always speak out of my nation without respect,


                      There is always respect for any people! hostility and hostility is always to aggressors aggressors !!! hi

                      Quote: Gari
                      then nobody wants to fight you either


                      Well, you are ahper-jan here - as always inaccurate !!! of course, no one wants war, they want to solve the world, but if it doesn’t work out, then excuse me winked
                      1. Gari
                        +2
                        12 July 2013 15: 40
                        I found it on Wikipedia:
                        On board the aircraft were families of employees of the Iranian embassy in Moscow, heading to Tehran for the celebration of Novruz.
                        Before deviating from the course and entering the airspace above Nagorno-Karabakh, the crew reported mechanical malfunctions. After some time, the aircraft crashed.
                        At a press conference, First Deputy Foreign Minister of Armenia Zhirair Libaridyan stated that the plane was supposed to proceed to Iran via Russia, Georgia and Armenia. However, he deviated from the course about 100 km east and, having left the Georgian airspace, was not over Armenia, but over the war zone around Nagorno-Karabakh
                        The Ministry of National Security of Azerbaijan provided the Iranian side with the interception of radio communications made by the Azerbaijani intelligence on the day of the disaster. One of the interception phrases was: “We just shot down an Azerbaijani military plane.” Azerbaijani intelligence believes that the aircraft was shot down by the Osa homing missile. Some Russian experts suggested that the Iranian aircraft deviated from the course to carry out an intelligence mission, but the Iranian Foreign Ministry rejected these assumptions.
                        A very confusing and dark story, if they shot down, then by accident, of course they did not know whom they were shooting down.
                        I’m always very accurate and love only the truth
                        Quote: smersh70
                        There is always respect for any people! hostility and hostility is always to aggressors aggressors !!!

                        I know for sure how your compatriots in Georgia and Russia relate to Karabakh, most just do not give a damn about all this, and with what respect the Armenians respect us, I myself have friends of comrades.
                        And no one wants war, I know that
                      2. smersh70
                        -1
                        12 July 2013 15: 57
                        Quote: Gari
                        I know for sure how your compatriots in Georgia and Russia relate to Karabakh,



                        that's it! although they belong to our nation, they are citizens of these countries !!! and according to the current law they are forbidden to fight here, they will not be taken simply into the army .. !!!!

                        I'm talking about the citizens of Azerbaijan! ... many of us have friends of Armenians .. It's not about personal relationships, it's about occupying the territory ... but the task of the state is to attract citizens to protect the country, whether they want it or not hi .... during the USSR during all the years of the war there were half a million deserters, .. this is not the main thing ....
                      3. Gari
                        +1
                        12 July 2013 16: 56
                        Do you think with Ganja?
                        I don’t want to give names, do you have different orders, but my friend, an Azerbaijani, was born and raised like his father in Ganja, your city and, of course, a citizen of your country, has been living for more than 10 years not in his homeland
                        reasons, I think it’s understandable why, no matter how much you boast, but it’s hard for you like everywhere else.
                        So with him we have no problems of enmity when we meet very warmly celebrate our meetings
                        Quote: smersh70
                        the matter is the occupation of territory ...

                        and what occupation?
                        if you mean Karabakh, they lived and live there, those who have always lived Karabakh people, by the way talking to your fellow countrymen, they themselves admitted that Karabakh was never used to be your own;
                      4. Gari
                        +1
                        12 July 2013 17: 22
                        oh minus, but I didn’t seem to put minuses
                      5. Gari
                        +1
                        12 July 2013 17: 04
                        Quote: smersh70
                        that's it! although they belong to our nation, they are citizens of these countries !!! and according to the current law they are forbidden to fight here, they will not be taken simply into the army .. !!!!

                        what nonsense, when the war will not come, who will look at the passport?
                        But Shamil Bassaev, Khattab and many other mercenaries were citizens of Azerbaijan in that war?
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        3. Gari
          +1
          10 July 2013 20: 45
          Quote: kotdavin4i
          Hi Harry

          Hi
          Thank you for the site, interesting site,
          Quote: kotdavin4i
          www.skywar.ru/

          I liked it, but I didn’t find the whole Internet anywhere anywhere else, about this event, and I would have known then what to conceal if it was, there could have been a war and mixed up, in the war zone an incomprehensible plane flies, especially since so many years passed, but I repeat, I haven’t found it anywhere on Wikipedia, and I haven’t heard it myself. Do you think the Iranians would swallow it?
  7. Kovrovsky
    +4
    9 July 2013 13: 10
    Quote: il grand casino
    Thanks for the review. But with aviation, Iran is not very))

    To put it mildly!
  8. 0
    9 July 2013 14: 14
    after the disruption of supplies of S-300P air defense systems to Iran, the contract for which was broken under pressure from Israel and the United States, such an option is hardly possible.

    Failure to fulfill obligations is always fraught with unpleasant consequences!
  9. +4
    9 July 2013 15: 25
    Iran is not so simple, it’s only a temporary geopolitical ally of Russia and it’s not quite logical to strengthen it with technological weapons under the pressure of time (especially when the power changed not long ago). Therefore, they offer an alternative, but overall this is Medvedev’s mistake (there were many of them) as a weak politician .
  10. +2
    9 July 2013 20: 00
    I didn’t read the article, but it could be written easier - The Air Force of the Islamic Republic of Iran - they are not, but they will probably appear ...)))
  11. +8
    9 July 2013 20: 18
    Iran has very interesting Air Force. This is some kind of wild mix from the Soviet (in many respects corresponding to the Russian Air Force fleet), old American, Chinese, and its own aircraft.
    Moreover, they are likely to have to fight in the near future, which makes them twice as interesting.
    The main questions are, how many airplanes are really flight-friendly, where do they get engines for them, what is the raid and training level of pilots, what is the tactics of their air force during aggression from the USA and Israel?
    Most likely, their air force will focus only on air defense missions. Although, when creating at least a "dirty bomb" (and even more so a nuclear one), the 20-30 remaining Su-24s can go on a "last campaign" against Israel or the monarchy of the Persian Gulf. Although there are chances of a breakthrough to goals there are very illusory.
  12. +3
    9 July 2013 20: 36
    With the world by string, with pine forest ... in the end, not the Air Force, but an air booth
  13. +2
    9 July 2013 22: 25
    In the case of the start of full-scale clashes with the forces of the United States and allies, the Iranian Air Force will most likely fail to do anything significant. The relative small number, outdated equipment, the lack of the required number of modern means of destruction - all this will not allow aviation units to provide effective cover for troops and ground infrastructure, as well as attack US bases on the opposite shores of the Persian and Oman gulfs.
    That's who urgently needs to supply the Su-35 instead of selling them to China! Or the Chinese will start selling their copies of the Su-35 to Iran along with some J-31. Then Russia will lose an ally, and there are not so many allies to scatter them.
    1. +4
      10 July 2013 06: 08
      Iran is much more in need of multifunctional Su-30MK2, which, in addition to air combat, can effectively operate on AUG. The Su-35 is "sharpened" for air superiority and air defense missions.
  14. shamil
    0
    9 July 2013 22: 49
    with su 35 it will be the same as s-300. America is unlikely to decide to invade Iran, and if they had su-35 and s-300
    they’ll probably arrange some kind of sand revolution and destabilize the political situation
  15. +2
    9 July 2013 23: 23
    Quote: Article
    The Iranian military excitedly talked about the great combat potential of the machine, which is not only practically invisible on radars, but also equipped with advanced on-board solutions in electronics.


  16. DuraLexSedLex.
    +2
    9 July 2013 23: 42
    Well, they have a lot of paper airplanes ... their fleet is outdated, it needs a deep modernization, or replacement, but in the conditions of the most severe sanctions it is not possible. Therefore, laughing at the attempts of poor Iran is not necessary, they are not from a good life, they would be right with China and Pikistan, but even here there may be troubles.
  17. Conepatus
    +2
    10 July 2013 02: 07
    It is necessary to cooperate with Iran. Iran is the base of Russia in the Persian Gulf (in the long term). It is an opportunity to block the oil flow (if necessary). It is an opportunity to give Qatar a wort at any time.
    From the territory of Iran, you can replenish supplies of fuel, lubricants, provisions, ammunition for the Russian squadron in the Indian Ocean. (If such a squadron is established on an ongoing basis) And the fact that the United Nations prohibits trade in arms with Iran is so fie for the United Nations. , then they will turn them back and no UN decree will be given to them.
    You need to be bolder and think for the future, and not just until 2020.
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