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Additional protection for American armored vehicles

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In 1941, American armored vehicles first encountered the enemy. As a result, it turned out that American cars had poor security.


Even before mass production of fighter aircraft was launched tanks M3 GMC, fifty pre-production units went to strengthen the garrisons in the Philippines, which were already fighting with the Japanese. Of the new self-propelled guns, three Temporary Field Artillery Battalions were formed in November-December 1941. In December, for the first time, they took part in the battle. However, they could not fully reveal their potential, since the Japanese did not have serious tank weapons. But began to receive complaints about the high losses that the crews suffered from the rifle weapons the Japanese. The designers decided to redesign the shield - all the improvements ended for this. М3 GMC was originally developed as a transitional link for full-fledged tank destroyers.

Also unsuccessfully proved to be the American technology, which is in the hands of the allies. In November, the 1941 of about 170 Stewart’s M3 light tanks, which were in service with British forces, participated in the Crusaider operation. The German African corps of Rommel managed not only to demonstrate the inconsistency of the American technology, but also the flawed tactics of the British.

This was not a good start for American armored vehicles, but the developers were aware of the weaknesses of transitional weapons projects, so they continued to work on full-fledged projects.

In the end, the Americans managed to create a full-fledged tank. October 23 The 1942 of the British Army had new American tanks M4A1, which proved to be well under El Alamein.

The Americans themselves were able to evaluate the new Shermans only 6 December 1942, on the territory of Tunisia. Their results were much worse than those obtained by the British, but this can be explained by poor preparation of the US Army, and there were no serious complaints about the tanks themselves. However, it is worth noting that the remaining samples of the ACS and US tanks showed complete inconsistency. The main disadvantage of American armored vehicles was poor armor protection.

14 February 1943 Shermans first met the German PzKpfw VI Tiger 501 heavy tank battalion in Tunisia for the first time. It should be noted that among the American military there was an opinion that tanks should not fight with other tanks, therefore they did not learn any lessons from this collision. The American concept suggested that the tanks were to destroy mobile and lightly armored tank fighters, which at that time did not have powerful weapons. Paradoxically, but a fact - specially designed for fighting tanks, ACS were the least suited for the task. Moreover, Africa has brought Americans euphoria. According to the commander of the ground forces, General Leslie MacNeir, the M4А3 tank was met as the best on the battlefield at the moment — it combines perfect mobility, reliability, firepower and saving speed.

Additional protection for American armored vehicles
An example of how Patton's 3 Tank Army was stripped of an M4 105mm assault tank. The armor was removed from the non-recoverable tank and the protection of the existing tanks was enhanced. On the upper edge of the sponson, just below the cannon's cut, a trace is visible from the hit of a German projectile, which possibly destroyed this tank.


Thus, in the US Army, there were prerequisites for a tank disaster. During the fighting on the territory of Italy, the Americans began to increasingly meet heavy tanks Tiger and Panther, but they still believed that tanks did not need thick armor and a powerful gun. The concept of poorly protected tank destroyers remained unchanged. But not all US military adhered to this point of view. By the time of the landing in the Normandy, after a long dispute, the 76 mm long-barreled gun was adopted by the Sherman, and the standardization of the M36 tank fighters equipped with the 90 mm was almost completed. The military assumed that with the help of the new 76 mm guns it would be possible to confidently fight the Tigers.

There was no effective cannon to fight the Panther, but the command of the American army convinced itself that the Germans would not be able to start mass production of Panthers, and small quantities of Pz V could be destroyed with the help of flanking fire and bypass maneuvers. Many American generals believed that the 90 mm gun has excessive power, and therefore not needed. Armored armor US remained unchanged.

But this time it was not possible to do without a catastrophe. Having landed in Normandy, the Americans quickly realized that 76 mm does not give an opportunity to confidently hit the Tigers. Attempts to influence the situation with the help of the powerful 90 mm M36 guns also ended in failure, which enraged the commander of the allied forces Duyte Eisenhower. The troops did not have enough of these machines, and most importantly: the weak armor protection of the M36 tank destroyers did not allow to fully unlock the potential of 90 mm guns in Normandy. They even hit the German medium tanks, anti-tank and assault SAU.

Another shocking surprise was a large number of Panthers armed with the enemy. Their powerful gun and frontal armor did not leave the Americans any chance in duel clashes. Also, German soldiers widely and fairly successfully used hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers firing cumulative shells. As a result, the Allied offensive on the territory of Normandy began to choke. From that moment on, the unprecedented use of improvised means to increase the protection of armored vehicles began in the US military.

Trying to cope with the crisis that had arisen at the front, some American designers and top military officials began to push through the idea of ​​a new heavy tank that would have a powerful gun and thick armor. But high-ranking conservative military, led by Leslie McNair, still believed that tanks should not fight tanks, so there is no need to put on them powerful weapons and thick armor - moreover, in their opinion, it was even harmful for them. They also believed that having received a well-armored tank, which possesses powerful weapons, tankers will begin to tie up unnecessary battles with German tank divisions. In the military design circles began a fierce discussion of the need to develop a new tank.

At the same time, the front-line soldiers began to attempt to cope with the catastrophic situation with their own forces, putting additional armor protection on armored vehicles. The commanders fully supported the desire of tankers to survive at any cost. In the various tank armies and divisions began to appear characteristic and unique types of additional protection. For example, the 7-I army developed, and later standardized, a set of hinged sandbags, which strengthened the frontal and side armor, as well as tower sides. These activities were widely disseminated in the 14 Tank Division of the 7 Army. There was another way, when reinforcements were welded to the forehead of the hull, formwork was made into which a thick concrete layer was poured.

Furious General George Patton heads to his headquarters after an impartial conversation with the crew of the M4A3X8 (76mm) from the 14 Panzer Division. The four-star general scolded the tank crew, because sandbags were hung on the tank. It is noteworthy that this additional protection was standardized in March in the 7 Army, but Patton did not want to reckon with this. The general believed that sandbags do not provide good protection, overload the car, which leads to premature breakdowns. When the 14 Tank Division of the 22-23 of April 1945 was transferred from the 7 Army to the 3 Army of Patton, the general personally forbade such methods of additional protection of tanks in his subordinate troops. But the tankers disagreed with the general in their views on sandbags and often simply ignored his order.

Sandbags were not available in Patton's 3 Army. Repair battalion specialists were able to convince him that sandbags are not the best solution. After cumulative ammunition fell into them, the explosive detonated, forming a cumulative jet before contact with the armor. In turn, she confidently pierced the armor of American cars. To create an effective protection against cumulative ammunition, a much greater distance was required between the armor and the point of operation of the projectile, and this was impossible to achieve with the help of sandbags. In addition, this scheme significantly increased the weight of the car, which had a negative impact on the suspension and powertrain. Therefore, in the 3 tank army, such additional protection was prohibited.

The fierce battles on the territory of Arden in January 1945 led to a new wave of discontent with the armor protection of the M4 Sherman tanks. In February, 1945, Patton tried to rectify the situation by ordering additional armor plates removed from wrecked tanks to be hung on the front of the hull, as well as on the turret. American tankers had to copy the German concept of differentiated Panther armor in the field.

The repair battalions of the 3 Tank Army began to carry out active armoring of tanks, but clearly could not cope with a similar amount of work. For these purposes three factories in Belgium were attracted, which were located near Bastogne. This modification affected Patton's three tank divisions: 4,6 and 11, an average of 36 tanks in each. The modified Shermans were well received in the troops, as their vitality greatly increased. The additional tank booking program was resumed in March of 1945, when Patton received a batch of wounded Shermans from the neighboring 7 army, from which armor was cut for installation on existing vehicles.

However, a similar scheme to strengthen the reservation was in conflict with the units that had passed into submission to Patton and were already protected with bags. Serious disagreements arose when the 7 tank division was transferred from the 14 Tank Army. However, tankers on the ground sometimes did not pay attention to the order of the commander.

The tank crews of the 9 Army welded on the forehead and sides of the hull, and sometimes on the tower, metal tracks, which were lined with sandbags. Then the whole structure was covered with a camouflage net.

The 1 Army practiced various methods of enhancing protection, depending on the unit. Crews used armor plates with padded equipment, rollers, sandbags and other improvised means.

Practical ubiquitous hanging tracked fragments to different parts of the hull of the tank.

It should be noted that from the film and photo chronicles it follows that the additional booking was almost not used on the light tanks of Chaffee and Stewart, as well as on artillery self-propelled guns.

Significant artisanal booking was used on the open turrets of tank destroyers М36 and М10. Although the open towers had an excellent overview, they practically did not provide protection against mortars and snipers. After active fighting in the city, it became obvious that they needed an armored roof of the tower. Constructive deficiencies corrected field repair shops - the open top partially or completely brewed. A standard sash armored roof began to install only after numerous requests from the front. It is worth noting that the MNNXX and M36 anti-tank ACSs had standard mounts for installing additional armor.

The only American tank on which no additional protection was installed was the TH26EXNNXX or M3 Pershing, which was considered heavy at the time. Twenty of these tanks passed combat tests in Europe as part of Operation Zebra.

The first Pershing, whose armor was pierced by a German projectile, was a tank under the number 38 and the on-board name "Fireball", assigned to company F of the 33 th tank regiment. This happened on February 26 1945 of the year near Elsdorf. Tiger's armor-piercing cannon managed to get into the embrasure of a coaxial machine gun from a distance of about one hundred meters. Killed gunner and loader.

The second Pershing, numbered 25, assigned to the H Company of the 33 Tank Regiment, was shot down in the town of Niel on the banks of the Rhine. An armor-piercing projectile 8.8 cm of the gun Nashorn managed to penetrate the lower frontal armor plate from a distance of about 275 meters, causing a fire in the turret. The crew managed to leave the car before the detonation of ammunition tore down the tower. This is the only time when Pershing's armor was punched in pure form.

The most non-standard armored model of American tanks is the T26E1-1 Super Pershing. The front of his body was reinforced with two layers of armor plates removed from the German Panthers.

After the start of full-scale clashes with the Japanese, there was a significant change in the idea of ​​additional reservations. Now the main threat was carried not by enemy tanks, anti-tank guns, self-propelled guns and grenade launchers, but by infantry-shaped cumulative mines, as well as various blasting shells. Japanese infantrymen were getting close to the American tanks, using lush vegetation and mountainous terrain. Also, very often the American marines released the Shermans far ahead without the support of the infantry, which also played into the hands of the Japanese. As a result, a massive boarding of tanks began with boards. However, sometimes it only aggravated the situation, since the Japanese had a simple but very effective cumulative mine with spikes.

The Japanese cumulative mine on the pole had a conical unpainted aluminum or steel body with three spikes in the bottom. Inside the mine there was an explosive with a cumulative funnel, and a fuse was placed in the upper narrow part. On the mine could be a standard fuse from a hand grenade or a set of capsule, fuse and detonator. A metal tube was screwed into the top of the conical mine into which a wooden pole was inserted with a drummer at the end. Between the detonator and the hammer there was a safety bracket and copper wire. After pulling out the safety guard, the soldier, holding the wooden pole from the side opposite to the mine, hit the spikes on the target with sufficient force to crush the copper wire between the drummer and the detonator and break the capsul in the detonator.



A cumulative jet pierced up to 6 inches of armor if the mine body was flush with the target surface. If the mine was at an angle of 60 degrees from the vertical to the surface of the target, then it would break through to 4 inches of armor.

"JAPANESE TANK AND ANTITANK WARFARE"
SPECIAL SERIES NO. Xnumx
1 AUGUST 1945
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DIVISION
WAR DEPARTMENE WASHINGTON, DC


Very often fittings were welded to the sides, wooden formwork was installed, and concrete was poured inside. Sometimes a layer of planks was also added on top of the concrete.

To protect the horizontal surfaces of the tanks from the installation of mines, wire pins were used, which were welded to the hull and turret. They made the tank a kind of "hedgehog." Also used metal mesh, which was mounted on the engine compartment with a small gap. On top of it covered with sandbags.

It is worth noting that different units used their own additional booking options. Very often one glance at a tank was enough to determine which division it was assigned to.

The repair units of the 9 Army developed their own way to enhance body armor. A steel caterpillar 2 inch thick (5,08cm) was welded onto the armor, sandbags were laid on top of it and the whole thing was covered with a camouflage net. Right Sherman received additional protection on the sides of the tower. М4А3 (76mm) from the 747 Tank Battalion, near Schleiden, Germany, 31 January 1945


The belonging of this M10 tank destroyer to the 9 Army is easily identified by the characteristic method of enhancing frontal protection — a masking net welded to the truck body, a layer of sandbags and on top.


М4А3Е8 (76mm), Company A, 18-I Tank Battalion, 8-I Tank Division, near Bocholtz, the Netherlands, 23 February 1945. The picture shows the first attempts to strengthen the protection of sandbags and tracked tracks.


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М4А3 (76mm), 14-I Tank Division, 7-I Army. After installing the sandbags, black camouflage spots were sprayed onto the dark olive base on top of them.


Using the example of the M4A3 (76) W HVSS from the 14 Panzer Division, we can consider the standardized sandbag kit developed and standardized in the 7 Army. Crew inspects tank radio station


'Annabelle' М4А1 Company "A", 48-th Tank Battalion, 14-th Tank Division with 4.5 "Kaliope" salvo fire system. T34 Kaliop installations were not popular among the tank crews. Initially, the gun could not be used when on a train Kaliop, however, on this car the lever is welded to the mask so that the gun can also fire if necessary


American tanker near the tank Sherman M4A3 (76) W. Sacks of cement are laid on the frontal armor, and for fixing they are poured with concrete on top.


In the 3 Army Patton preferred to strengthen the protection of tanks by hanging additional armor plates on the forehead of the hull and tower. Bronelists took with their own or enemy equipment bat. It is noteworthy that the lower edge of the additional armor plate closes the access to the transmission cover in the lower frontal part of the body. М4А3Е8 (76mm) of an early release, without a muzzle brake on the gun. 11-I Tank Division, 3-I Army


М4А3Е8, 41-I Tank Battalion, 11-I Tank Division, 3-I Army. Additional protection typical of Patton’s army is the front armor invoice. Weak sides are not strengthened in any way. This Sherman was the first in his unit to reach the Rhine River during the 21 breakthrough in March 1945


М4А1 (76mm), 3-I Tank Division, 1-I Army, near Korbach, Germany, 30 May 1945. A very unusual case, with two layers of 1-inch extra armor at once. More remarkable is the fact that on the roof of the tower the hatch of the gunner and the commander's turret were reversed - now the hatch of the gunner is on the right, and the commander's turret is on the left.


M4A3 (76) W HVSS, start of 1945. The additional armor closes the hull forehead and differential access cover. At the same time, it is fastened by welding, and a mount for headlights and even towing brackets are attached to it.


M10 covers the withdrawal of the 1 Army through the town of Wirtzfield 17 December 1944. SAU protect sandbags and additional rollers.


М10 with bags, rollers and logs for protection against Panzerfaustov. On the cover of the transmission, the Kulina cutter is an attribute of fighting in the bag. SAU M10



Pilot T26EX4 tank with a powerful 90mm T15EX1 gun. One of the two available prototypes was sent to Europe to test the battle against the German heaviest tank - the Royal Tiger. The repairmen of the 3 Tank Division, led by Belton Cooper, decided to strengthen the protection of the rare tank by hanging armor from the German Panther. The forehead of the hull is covered with a double layer of trophy rolled armor. [/ Center]

Later release M4A3, "Doris", from the 5-th Tank Battalion of the Marine Corps (5th Armored Battalion, USMC). Ivodzhima, March 1945. The tank is thoroughly prepared for a meeting with the main enemy - the Japanese infantry. Boards are covered with boards from magnetic cumulative mines. Hatches on the hull and even on the tower are protected by mesh caps. On the engine compartment put a metal grid, over which are laid out sandbags.


М4А2 from Company B, 1 US Tank Battalion, Marine Corps (Company B, 1st Armored Battalion (USMC)). Peelui, September 1944. Boards are made of boards from infantry magnetic cumulative mines.


М4А3 "Davy Jones", Ivojima, March 1945. Against magnetic cumulative boards, they are sewn onto the hull side only, but even the suspension. Obviously the tank had to act close to the enemy's trenches. A fragment of a rubber-metal caterpillar with large rubber blocks was hung on the tower, which could also protect the mines from magnetization. The hatches of the driver and radio operator, as well as the roof of the hull between them are abundantly littered with vertical metal pins to prevent the installation of all the same cumulative mines. Surprisingly, spikes even on the roof and hatches of the tower.


Sherman from the 4 US Tank Battalion, Marine Corps, Iwojima, February 23 1945. An interesting sample. The sides of the hull are covered with a layer of concrete, on top of which the boards. Concrete protected from the installation of infantry cumulative mines and enemy shells. But why boards? Japanese infantry cumulative could be fastened with magnets and spikes. They were not fastened to concrete, but they could already be on boards. Perhaps the concrete was not firmly supported on the vertical sides and the boards supported it. The forehead of the hull and sides of the tower are covered with tracks with large rubber blocks. All the hatches of the crew are covered with mesh caps made of reinforcement.


Sherman with the onboard name "KING KONG", Company C, 4-i Tank Battalion, Osrs Saipan. It is clearly seen that the boards of the board fit close to the armor. Marines talking on the phone with the tank commander, Lieutenant "Max" Inglish. The phone is mounted on the left aft.


The tank company commander Bob Neumann - ILL WIND. Tinian Island. The stern of the usual boards on the sides can still see a layer of concrete on the front sheet of the hull. An armored cylindrical protective casing is installed on the commander jumps. In the company of Bob Neumann were widely used all kinds of bush means of additional protection.


Sherman МХNUMXА4 with the onboard name CAIRO, company C, 3-i Tank Battalion. There are wire caps on the hatches, the hull bots are covered with a layer of cement and outside with boards, the hull foreheads and sides of the tower are crawler tracks.


Late M4А3 Sherman pushed to attack the village of Oruku 7 June 1945. 2-th platoon, company B, 6-th Tank Battalion. Additional protection is provided by mounted crawfish and sandbags.


Often, the Japanese tank destroyer detachments threw a blast charge under the bottom of the tank. To prevent such a thing from this Sherman from the Marine Corps, skirts are welded to cover the undercarriage. In addition, fragments of the humanis were hung on the tower for additional protection, and on board, under the “skirt”, a layer of boards from magnetic mines is visible. Dated by the late stage of the Okinawa fights.


Japanese 47mm anti-tank guns were forced to boil caterpillar fragments even on frontal armor. The photo is МХNUMXА4 from the 2 of the US Tank Batalno Marine Corps.


On this Sherman М4А3 fragments of a caterpillar protect the tower, the side and the forehead of the hull, but this did not help him. Sometimes the Japanese organized land mines from aerial bombs or torpedoes. It was on such a mine that the tank from the 6 Tank Battalion on the road south of Itoman, 16 Jun 1945, was blown up.


М4А3 from the 6 Tank Battalion near the destroyed Japanese hangar, Okinawa. Obviously the tank provided improvised artillery support, judging by the large number of used containers for ammunition lying around. This photo is another example of how the side of the chassis was covered with wooden slats from explosive charges, which the Japanese threw under the tank.


A good example of field protection of tanks in the Pacific Ocean. All kinds of hatches and hatches are equipped with vertical steel pins, the tower is covered with a caterpillar, the side of the hull and the chassis - with boards. Above the engine compartment and the side of the tower all corners of the hull is covered with sandbags. It is noteworthy that the camouflage was already applied over the improvised means of additional protection. The 5 Tank Battalion was equipped with these additional defenses even before landing on Ivojima.


Sources:
David Doyle - Af Visual - LP 018, 2005
Andre R. Zbignewski - M3 and M4 Tanks in Pacific Combat. 1942-1945 - Kagero
Oscar E. Gilbert - Allied-Axies No.8. Marine Corps Shermans. - 2002, Ampersand Publishing Company, Inc.
Stiven Zaloga - US Tank Destroyers In Combat 1941-1945 - Concord, 7005, 1996
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE DIVISION - JAPANESE TANK AND ANTITANK WARFARE - SPECIAL SERIES NO. 34. 1 AUGUST 1945. WAR DEPARTMENE WASHINGTON, DC


Author and translation by Vadim Ninov
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  1. avt
    avt 4 July 2013 09: 19 New
    +5
    good Good article. + Illustrated very well. It’s the only trouble for everyone - ours also experimented with concrete on the T-34, but it didn’t go further than the prototype, but the screens were installed on the KV and T-34.
  2. Kars
    Kars 4 July 2013 09: 41 New
    +7
    Still practicing)))))))))))) bamboo
    1. Kars
      Kars 4 July 2013 11: 41 New
      +3
      American tactics) or French
      1. Kars
        Kars 4 July 2013 11: 44 New
        +4
        Americans with a concrete mixer
        1. svp67
          svp67 4 July 2013 17: 57 New
          +1
          And so it was proposed to strengthen the reservation T34
          I think it's good that "this" was not accepted ...
  3. washi
    washi 4 July 2013 11: 31 New
    +1
    The land armament of the island countries (USA, Britain) has never been distinguished by novelty and quality.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 4 July 2013 20: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Vasya
      The land armament of the island countries (USA, Britain) has never been distinguished by novelty and quality.


      for that wit was enough laughing .
  4. Fibrizio
    Fibrizio 4 July 2013 11: 32 New
    +1
    I did not know what was mass. And he didn’t know about American tactics that tanks should not fight with tanks. Article +, thanks to the author. Interesting and clear.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 4 July 2013 15: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Fibrizio
      I did not know what was mass. And he didn’t know about American tactics that tanks should not fight with tanks. Article +, thanks to the author. Interesting and clear.


      The Germans were struggling to achieve, and their latest armored demonstrators called the Tiger quickly drove into the head of American tankers world tank wisdom: “Tanks do not fight tanks. At least with the Tigers, for sure. ” The American tankers felt a little deceived - they seemed to have finally got a medium tank, and it has a tower, but now it’s not dancing again. When landing in Sicily, American tankers enriched themselves with new combat experience, which stated that anyone could be hit in the ass, as well as that attacking an enemy who did not have normal anti-tank defense was a real pleasure. Ahead was a landing in France ...

      http://flibusta.net/b/216362/read
  5. xomaNN
    xomaNN 4 July 2013 15: 22 New
    +2
    Bravo! A huge number of interesting photos. I did not even expect that the US designers gave up on booking and had to handicraft the tankers to "warm up" in the field :))
    1. Kars
      Kars 4 July 2013 15: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: xomaNN
      I did not even expect that the US designers gave up on booking and had to handicraft the tankers to "warm up" in the field :))

      Where did you get it? Warming is a universal sign of the final stage of the war, even thick-skinned cats like Panther and the Royal Tiger were warmed up whenever possible, what can we say about the same Four.

      Or now look at the BTT in Syria.
      1. vomag
        vomag 4 July 2013 16: 01 New
        0
        I dare to object "warming" is a ubiquitous sign, but by no means the final stage! From the first days of hostilities, something is being hung, welded, etc. ... just by the end of the war it takes on its final appearance (sometimes very bizarre)
        1. Kars
          Kars 4 July 2013 18: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: vomag
          it’s a ubiquitous sign, but by no means the final stage! from the first days of hostilities, something is hung, it is welded, etc.

          I would like to see something from the time of the French operation or Barbarossa 1941-42. In general, with some exaggeration, one can attribute the use of additional armor on medium-weight equipment to the widespread distribution of cumulative ammunition.
          Quote: vomag
          like a couple of weeks ago someone raised the topic like what kind of Sherman is a cool tank, etc. ..itp .. I wrote that the Germans called him a bell tower on a caterpillar track and there were usually 1 Shermans per 5 knocked-out panther. (Then they didn’t believe me, they can believe it)

          And now I won’t believe you --- as I see it, you don’t want to take into account the rearmament of the artillery components of the German tank and anti-tank units. The Germans saw Sherman after the rearmament to long-barrel anti-aircraft systems, they collided with Sherman in 1941 and received all the epithets assigned to the T-34 would be Sherman.
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            1. Kars
              Kars 5 July 2013 23: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: vomag
              inspect a pair of padded T-34s of the 1942 model produced by factory No. 112

              And is this a serial modification or a special case that is later used everywhere? Could you not dig and bring photos of the screened KV-1, and then remember that the KV-1 in KV-1C was redone reducing the thickness of the reservation.
              And my question was more about German equipment that collided with the Soviet long-barreled tank guns F-34 and so on, Soviet tanks did not particularly suffer additional armoring - they didn’t live that much.

              For the plus plus.
              1. vomag
                vomag 5 July 2013 23: 11 New
                0
                damn not a magician attach a photo belay
                1. Kars
                  Kars 5 July 2013 23: 14 New
                  +1
                  Quote: vomag
                  damn not a magician attach a photo

                  It happens, try changing the browser, my VO works fine only on Chrome.

                  but the German troika.
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 5 July 2013 23: 18 New
                    +1
                    But the Englishman _______
                2. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 5 July 2013 23: 52 New
                  0
                  Save the image and then pull it out using "select image from computer". Helps.
              2. Kars
                Kars 5 July 2013 23: 12 New
                +1
                _________________ there are such T-34s, but the distribution has not received.
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  6. vomag
    vomag 4 July 2013 15: 39 New
    +1
    many thanks to the author for QUALITATIVE (review + photo) just like a couple of weeks ago someone raised the topic like what kind of Sherman is a cool tank, etc. ..it .. I wrote that the Germans called him a bell tower on a caterpillar track and as a rule 1 Shermanov. (Then they did not believe me, maybe they will believe it) wink
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 4 July 2013 15: 43 New
      -2
      I won’t believe it. No links. Like the author.
      1. vomag
        vomag 4 July 2013 15: 54 New
        +1
        Yes, you dear, you can’t believe your business, just look at the pictures here and everything is clear sandbags concrete and armor (roll) will not be hung up just like that or are they all worse than you and do it for fun ???
        1. Andrey77
          Andrey77 4 July 2013 15: 59 New
          -1
          Did you so accustom the old man? Look at the photo ... And think with your brains?
  7. Andrey77
    Andrey77 4 July 2013 15: 40 New
    0
    "Note that the American military was of the opinion that tanks should not fight other tanks."
    --
    As I understand it, the author is an expert on US field manuals? Or are the US military in some way different from the military in other countries of the world? "There was an opinion" ... Good interpretation. Only even the rank and file of the US Army will not agree with you. Author, name the number of the field manual in force in the United States for 1941! Weak? But the master is mocking ...
  8. vomag
    vomag 4 July 2013 15: 45 New
    +1
    I will willingly believe it because in 1941, according to our charter, battalions were supposed to dig not trenches of a full profile, but cells! in the marching column, a battalion commander with a political instructor with 2 soldiers and no patrols was ahead! so that......
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 4 July 2013 15: 54 New
      -1
      Give a link to the PU-41. And so - this is your personal speculation.
      1. vomag
        vomag 4 July 2013 16: 10 New
        +2
        dear Andrei, how old are you ??? I think that somewhere 14. I’m tired of your youthful maximalism I don’t know what and give me a link, but I don’t remember where it is written ?? 7you are not tired of trolling old uncles ?? The Red Army entered the war guided by Polev Charter of the Red Army of 1939 and this must be KNOWLEDGE !! and not to do ******** (a bad word breaks out)
      2. dustycat
        dustycat 4 July 2013 18: 53 New
        +1
        Read the recollections of the commander of the 159 fortified area.
        Separate cells and the principle of focal defense was the main for 1941.
        All fortified areas were built and executed without a continuous line of trenches.
        Because of what the Germans walked almost calmly to Moscow.
        They simply went around the point fortified areas or simply acted between them as in 1942-1943 in the Stalingrad region.
  9. the47th
    the47th 4 July 2013 16: 45 New
    +1
    Good article, I now understand why the amers in World of tanks do not bend.
  10. gray
    gray 4 July 2013 20: 04 New
    +2
    “Even though I could hardly count on success, I intended, at any rate, to show the Yankees that the war was not over yet. Only the ruins testified to this! We were used to an enemy such as the Russians; we were amazed by the contrast. Throughout the war, I never saw soldiers scatter so that only their heels sparkled, although, in fact, nothing special happened ... I finally saw one enemy tank, which randomly rushed behind the house. I fired a shell at the house. After the second shot, the American tank caught fire. The Yankees perked up, because finally someone was shooting at them. We soon found ourselves in the center of intense artillery fire and bombers appeared to punish us. There were no casualties. "
    and one more statement: "The Americans are against tanks at night! And on foot! No, that was out of the question! In the darkness I recognized German helmets .."
    Otto Carius. April 1945. Germany.
    1. Kars
      Kars 4 July 2013 20: 42 New
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      Quote: gray
      Otto Carius. April 1945. Germany.

      Otto’s that storyteller too. As for the Americans in Normandy, I’ll say --- why should they build heroes of themselves? Are they freeing their land? Avenging their burnt cities and millions of killed civilians? Do they have much to hurry? For example, in battles with TD Hitler Youth the landings showed decent results - a ratio far from the classically described 1 to 5. The Ardennes also had a decent resistance - the same as the Bastogne. The Shermans also burned Whitman. But to see the general losses of the Yankees is simply a pleasant thing compared to other warriors.
      1. Dim Dim
        Dim Dim 4 July 2013 22: 54 New
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        Quote: Kars
        Sherman burned Witman too

        Well, yes, flying on a low-level flight, a missile hit from above in the engine compartment.
        1. Kars
          Kars 5 July 2013 09: 42 New
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          Quote: DimDim
          Well, yes, flying on a low-level flight, a missile hit the engine compartment from above

          Legend 1. Wittmann died near Falez in a battle with the Shermans of the 4th Canadian Tank Division. From a distance of 1800 m, he knocked out two Shermans from the 1st squadron. To break the line of attackers, the “tiger” Wittmann rushed forward, knocked out another “Sherman”, but then received five hits from close range. Three shells pierced the tower, the entire crew died.

          Legend 2. The Wittmann tank was destroyed by the 1st Polish Tank Brigade of General S. Maciek. A description of the same battle appears in the current Polish press, but only the Wittmann “tiger” knocked out the Shermans of the 2nd Squadron of the 2nd Tank Regiment of the 1st Polish Panzer Division.

          Legend 3. The "Tiger" Wittmann was destroyed by an aerial bomb. Allegedly, the remains of the "tiger" 007 on which Wittmann died. According to this version, the tank did not receive any holes. The only damage was a large hole in the back of the case, next to the engine. It was concluded that the damage was caused by air. The rocket hit the rear wall of the hull (armor thickness 25 mm), pierced the air intakes and exploded. This caused an explosion in the engine compartment and in the fighting compartment, where the ammunition detonated. An explosion of detonating shells destroyed the crew and tore off the tower. As a variation of the version, the Wittmann “tiger” was destroyed by a missile launched from the Typhoon Royal Air Force attack aircraft. In evidence of these versions, two photographs of a “tiger” without a tower with an gun barrel lying on the hull were presented. In fact, it turned out that both photos depict the "tiger" of the SS Untersturmfuhrer Alfred Gunther, who was indeed destroyed as a result of the bombing.



          The first is more veritable. And of the three versions, two are with Shermans.
  11. gray
    gray 4 July 2013 20: 11 New
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    "After all, five Russians were more dangerous than thirty Americans. We have already noticed this in the last few days of fighting in the west."
    Otto Carius. April 1945. Germany.
  12. gray
    gray 4 July 2013 20: 21 New
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    "The Yankee tanks interested me, of course. I saw about twenty enemy tanks built into a neat small row at a distance of about 2,5 km. They just fired a volley around the city. I thought that we should show these guys that we don't have much ammunition left. If they crossed the canal and had to face so many unnecessary fears, then they should be given the opportunity to tell at least one real shell after they return home. These are we Germans, vile people! With two jagdtigers, I rode a small rise to the east of the range, there was a great view of the enemy. Unfortunately, opening fire I noticed that the Yankees were at least 3 km away from us. So it took us too long to In the meantime, the enemy tacni crawled into a small forest area. They, of course, quickly demanded support against this "superior force."
  13. Donvel
    Donvel 4 July 2013 21: 01 New
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    Well, and you say, "This country cannot be defeated." Americans also have a pot laughing