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Military test drive: what are the decommissioned Urals and KAMAZ trucks capable of?

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Military test drive: what are the decommissioned Urals and KAMAZ trucks capable of?

Auctions that sell military equipment are always of interest. But many people have a question: what are ZILs, “Urals” and KAMAZ trucks capable of doing? Now the military showed these cars in action. Well, the test drive was impressive! The correspondent of Onliner.by visited the Old Roads where this event was held and looked at the possibilities of the written-off military equipment.


The range of cars sold is large: ZIL, Ural, KAMAZ trucks, unpretentious KrAZ trucks and even tracked multi-purpose light armored MT-LB and MT-LBu tractors. Last, as it may seem at first glance, the place is only at the Minsk Vtorchermet plant in Gatovo - they look so scary.





Peeling paint, rust stains on the body, and all militarized parts (hatches, towers, loopholes for rifle weapons) welded seams. But despite this, the tractor is in demand in Russia. Only during the last auction, about which we wrote earlier, nine such tracked vehicles were sold. They are bought mainly by hunters, fishermen and outdoor enthusiasts. True, for movement on public roads requires a special permit traffic police.


Possessing high maneuverability, even in remote taiga, a fairly economical tractor can reach speeds of up to 60 km / h. Agree, for an armored tracked vehicle, released in the second half of the last century, this is a pretty good indicator.


Of course, immediately after purchasing the MT-LB tractor, it is not necessary to drive into the dirt. Military vehicles have been standing in the open for several years and require the performance of a certain kind of work. As officers of the base in Old Roads told us, it is necessary to begin with the replacement of all rubber products, which due to age have lost their properties. Otherwise, there are no problems with these machines, they are quite reliable and relatively inexpensive to operate.


Especially for our readers, the military demonstrated the power of MT-LB, “mixing” the dirt in the nearby forest near them. Tractor easily coped with overcoming a small ford.


Then, the car overcame a section of the forest road at maximum speed. It seemed that the wet and dirty tractor was blown dry in an instant, and the branches of bushes and trees swept away all the dirt from its hull.


Following the MT-LB, wheeled vehicles drove along the same ditch. The KAMAZ car, which was allocated part of for testing, actually sold and will be put up at the next auction. The appearance of the equipment corresponds to the age and cost - a matt cabin, once brilliant, has rusty “bugs” on the body. However, if you do not pay attention to this moment (for the owner with hands it is not a problem to paint), then the car is in good condition. Rubber on the iron disks will serve more than one year, and all the other nuances are quite removable.





The officers of the unit are confident that this KAMAZ will definitely be bought at auction. For information, similar cars at recent auctions were sold at an initial price of 55 million Belarusian rubles. The final cost, as a rule, is higher than the initial value on 20 — 25%.


After KAMAZ disappeared into the thick of the forest, the military "Ural" left for the edge. The side truck towed three more (!) GAZ-66. From the side it seemed as if the boy was pulling toy cars on a string.


At some point, the metal cable is taut. It seemed that someone from the drivers of slave cars hit the brakes. Indeed, the military modeled the situation as if on one of the trucks after the brake pedal was pressed, the brake pads jammed.


Throwing dirt out from under the massive wheels, the Ural began to “burrow” confidently with a roar. Another couple of minutes, and it is unlikely that the car itself could go to the "land". Now, when the wheels are up to the rims in the dirt, the only way to get out of it and pull the column out is to use a winch.
Stretching it to a distance of about ten meters, the driver hooked the first car. Turning on the working brakes, the “Ural” began to pull the winch cable with a uniform roar. Like cars of a train, cars started moving. A few minutes later, military trucks were released from the captivity of mud ...


A little aside, on the outskirts of the forest, a mechanical vehicle repair shop was deployed. Next to it, in the field, the engine was repaired and welding was performed. The workshop does not even require electricity - it is completely autonomous. Similar workshops are currently being sold through the authorized organization of the RUE “Belspetskontrakt” and cost from 50 million Belarusian rubles.






Welding machine



Then, the journalists were shown the work of the ARS-14 auto-pouring station. The petrol ZIL-131 with a barrel (2,7 tons) and a pump can now be reclassified as a fire engine. The use of APCs as a “fire” is not uncommon, as evidenced by the coloring of some cars in the territory: the percentages of 10 parked cars are painted red.





In addition, APC-14 is used to deliver water and other liquid substances. Oilmen acquire stations for the transport of liquid fuel, road builders - for washing roads. Our correspondent has found another use for this model of military equipment. By connecting a special gun to the filling hoses, which looks similar to the filling, you can perfectly wash the car. The pressure of the water allowed even mosquitoes and flies from the hood and license plate of the car! Domestic answer Karcher!


Up-to-date information on the availability of equipment and property, auctions can always be obtained on the website of RUP "Belspetskontrakt" or by calling in Minsk: (8 017) 278-06-97, 224-66-27, 224-20-01.


We thank for the help in the preparation of the report the military information agency "Vayar".
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  1. Evgeny_Lev
    Evgeny_Lev 21 June 2013 09: 38 New
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    From the beginning, I got a little fickle, seeing that the old KAMAZ costs 55 million rubles.
    Dear editors, please indicate that prices are in Belarusian rubles.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 21 June 2013 09: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: Evgeny_Lev
      From the beginning, I got a little fickle, seeing that the old KAMAZ costs 55 million rubles.

      lol I myself was scared - more than a lemon eureka for a used "Kamaz"
    2. Genady1976
      Genady1976 21 June 2013 16: 45 New
      +3
      you read carefully sad
      The officers of the unit are sure that this KAMAZ will definitely be bought at auction. For information, similar cars at recent auctions were sold at an initial price of 55 million BELARUSIAN rubles. The final cost, as a rule, is higher than the initial one by 20-25%.
      1. The comment was deleted.
  2. evgenii67
    evgenii67 21 June 2013 09: 53 New
    0
    Hello everyone! I heard this expression: why do Russians have such passable cars, yes because they are too lazy to make good roads- something like this, maybe not literally, but the meaning is this! I look at the photo, there is no doubt that the technique is good and even legendary (ZIL-131, GAZ-66), but with .. as old as .... "where this event was held, and looked at the capabilities of decommissioned military equipment."
    this kind of equipment gets into the fire service, fire safety department, etc. So, for example, 14 units were transferred from MO to ME. ARS-14 (83-87 onwards) is the “youngest” car in 91, there are no engines on some engines, but some started up briskly and drove no less briskly, but there they drove, pulled those without an engine and I still don’t understand why did we take them request , because before that they bought new equipment, as a result, they agreed with the heads of the districts to give them this for free, sorry for the expression of trash.
  3. old man54
    old man54 21 June 2013 10: 02 New
    +1
    The article put a "-", because it is of a frank advertising character and is designed not to inform anyone of the VO readers in terms of creating new models of military equipment or its use in the army, but stupidly advertises an auction of used property of the Belarusian Defense Ministry. The fact that the automotive equipment created in the USSR for military purposes was originally designed with a large margin of safety, I think many people understand that! But if it is still functional and reliable, as described in the article, then I don’t quite understand the Belarusians ’brothers - why do they get rid of it? They don’t have much money in the budget and they are only going to move around on everything new? :) All kinds of rubber bands could be changed in autobuses, painted and used.
  4. OLDTODD
    OLDTODD 21 June 2013 10: 03 New
    +1
    At one time, I studied at KAMAZ 4310 on the rights of the military registration and enlistment office, the machine was well-worn, but the apparatus was class!
  5. Deniska
    Deniska 21 June 2013 10: 06 New
    +1
    250 000 rubles (RF) for KAMAZ .... I think a great price))) especially if you resell it in Russia for 700 000)) for example
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 21 June 2013 10: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Deniska
      250 000 rubles (RF) for KAMAZ .... I think a great price))) especially if you resell it in Russia for 700 000)) for example

      GOOD LUCK TO YOU IN YOUR BUSINESS lol
    2. Argon
      Argon 21 June 2013 13: 02 New
      +1
      and customs? Yes, and the papelats are very specific (consumption under 65l \ 100km), although I think they will take a chassis for some kind of laboratory.
  6. 12061973
    12061973 21 June 2013 10: 15 New
    +2
    for hunting and outdoor activities, buy Zil 131 or gas 66, the parts are cheap or if you know places like a military farm, the collective farms are almost free if you transfer to gas more economical than diesel, samovar gas is easy to digest, any drunk collective farmer can fix it, and patency is no worse than Kamaz .bonus, at -35 there is no problem if the antifreeze is in the radiator, the blue spaced in the glycol is suitable.
    1. Akim
      Akim 21 June 2013 10: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: 12061973
      for hunting and outdoor activities buy zil 131 or gas 66,

      Then it is better ZIL-157 with kung. Wow.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 21 June 2013 14: 36 New
        0
        Yeah! Unforgettable unit !!
      2. 12061973
        12061973 21 June 2013 14: 54 New
        0
        no power steering, you’ll get tired of twisting the steering wheel.
        1. Akim
          Akim 21 June 2013 16: 47 New
          -1
          Quote: 12061973
          no power steering

          The car still needs to undergo repairs. A power steering with shisharika, as a native put. Yes, and there is a native. All cars of the 80s of the production were already with him (there are even diesel ones, but this is VERY rare).
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 21 June 2013 19: 03 New
          +5
          on a Mormon in a rut they throw a bagel ... twist salagi and suckers ...
  7. Akim
    Akim 21 June 2013 10: 22 New
    +4
    6 bucks for a workshop is practically for nothing. Although it is still necessary to evaluate the configuration and condition of the machines. Sometimes the game is not worth the candle.
    1. Argon
      Argon 21 June 2013 13: 10 New
      +1
      I completely agree, in appearance it seems normal to dash for such a technique, there’s another thing: PARMik (I don’t remember the number) was put on KrAZ there and the pipe bender was both a welder and a turning machine and a vertical milling machine (well, you can drill).
      1. Strashila
        Strashila 21 June 2013 15: 26 New
        +3
        if you look at the machine, it’s new from conservation.
        1. Akim
          Akim 21 June 2013 16: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Strashila
          if you look at the machine, it’s new from conservation.

          Appearance means nothing. Maybe he is not a worker. This is the scourge of young lieutenants, take the car in appearance.
  8. dark_65
    dark_65 21 June 2013 10: 30 New
    +3
    But their mother, what country, with what opportunities and brains prosrali ....
  9. bairat
    bairat 21 June 2013 11: 11 New
    +1
    I went to the KRAZ tanker, this is a monster! On narrow forest paths, trees fell down paving a new road, even from behind the zilok always hung on the strap: then they had a carburetor, then there was no spark, then gasoline was over.)
  10. Skavron
    Skavron 21 June 2013 11: 11 New
    +5
    Gas - 66 ... how much has been traveled on it in non-roads ... a dream and not a car for a hunter)
  11. Simple
    Simple 21 June 2013 11: 12 New
    0
    Meanwhile, in Afghanistan another dilemma:
    The American army leaves behind heavy military equipment, previously making it unusable. US forces "scrap" one fifth of their equipment in Afghanistan. The return of used, often damaged military equipment to the United States would be too expensive, for sale to the Allies is too difficult - the Afghan army cannot use sophisticated equipment.
    The acquisition of military equipment to be disposed of cost the American taxpayers $ seven billion. Afghan dealers are counting on 80 million kilograms of scrap.
    1. Hauser
      Hauser 21 June 2013 14: 28 New
      +4
      In the late 40s, my uncle in Vladivostok handed over to the Americans the surviving Lendlis technique. The Americans installed powerful presses on the quays, drove cars there and loaded metal briquettes onto the ships. Willis bought himself three bottles of vodka. Corruption, damn it.
  12. Fin
    Fin 21 June 2013 12: 09 New
    +1
    And in the SF automotive equipment in 2011-2012. Arriving under its own power, surrendered into remorse and understood. In exchange received new ones. Even the VAZ-2114 with a range of 180 thousand tries .. for disassembly, Focus instead. Why sell, dough is not measured. An effective manager did not even sell them.
  13. Andrey77
    Andrey77 21 June 2013 13: 32 New
    +1
    So, the course of the Belarusian "bunny". For 10000 rubles Belarus give 37,4 Russian rubles. We get the calculator. One ruble of Belarus costs ... 0,00374 RUR. 55.000.000 times 0,00374 ... we get 205700 rubles. It’s kind of expensive for a used horseradish how old Kamaz is. And this is duty free. No offense to the Belarusians, but no one will buy.
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 21 June 2013 13: 42 New
      0
      Kamaz at the price of a used UAZ jeep, and is it expensive?
      1. RoadRunner
        RoadRunner 21 June 2013 13: 47 New
        +1
        This is it to the border at the price of an UAZ, and behind it, already in two UAZ will grow
    2. nerd.su
      nerd.su 21 June 2013 22: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey77
      It’s kind of expensive for a used horseradish how old Kamaz is.

      Why used? I understand the technique from storage.
  14. shush007
    shush007 21 June 2013 13: 45 New
    0
    These cars are just Agony, and the price is certainly miserable
  15. RoadRunner
    RoadRunner 21 June 2013 13: 45 New
    0
    I look at articles of this nature more and more often began to pop up on this site ...
    So, the course of the Belarusian "bunny". For 10000 rubles Belarus give 37,4 Russian rubles. We get the calculator. One ruble of Belarus costs ... 0,00374 RUR. 55.000.000 times 0,00374 ... we get 205700 rubles. It’s kind of expensive for a used horseradish how old Kamaz is. And this is duty free. No offense to the Belarusians, but no one will buy.

    The Belarusians will take it, but those who want to get "extreme" can safely buy their equipment from conservation in the Russian Federation.
    1. washi
      washi 21 June 2013 14: 28 New
      +3
      AT US TS. There should be no fee. So the offer is profitable.
      While doing garbage on the site, the cars will already leave.
    2. RADJANPHILOSOF
      RADJANPHILOSOF 22 June 2013 17: 58 New
      0
      In any ads - on the website or in newspapers and other sources, the cost of trucks starts from 300000 rubles and not of the best quality, the new truck costs 1,5-2,0 million or more, depending on the options. Taking this equipment for 200000 re and repairing it even for the same amount, you can provide yourself with a very decent old age - freight transportation, agricultural work, long-distance, private work, a lot of directions. And now the thought further is to buy not one, but 10 or 50 trucks - please fleet of trucks. An hour of transportation of KAMAZ costs 800-1200 rubles. On day 3-4, orders are better for more, and then we consider: minus fuel tax, etc. - two rubles remain at least or 50 a month, is it bad? or 600 a year - from one car, and if it’s a park, and if you lease it, and also put a person in it. That's where the “difficulties” begin - but even with this in mind, in a couple of three years it’s really possible to recapture expenses and live according to the request. There is one “but” - NEED TO WORK !!! some cry - there is no power steering or something else, everything can be fixed during the repair, but for some time it is possible without hydraulics. The price is VERY GOOD, but some preparation is needed to go through this chain.
      1. Denis
        Denis 22 June 2013 19: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: RADJANPHILOSOF
        you can provide yourself with a very decent old age - transportation, agricultural work, long-distance, private work, a lot of directions
        Unhappy old age will turn out
        One can hear the opinion of a person who is knowledgeable in economics, but not in cars. XNUMXWD and do not forget about it. This is an increased consumption of fuels and lubricants and unnecessary parts on the asphalt, which, alas, have a habit of wearing out. When transporting on the road, they are almost all very good, but are there many of them off-road? In the long-range, such a machine is simply ruin, but in our long-suffering s / x, are there many places where they can find a place?
        They have an application, but very specific
      2. krot00f
        krot00f 24 June 2013 23: 55 New
        0
        Yes, you forget how much it costs to service this truck, it’s more profitable to take a new one for 1,5 lemas especially for business, I’ve put a passenger car under the window, filled it with gasoline and that’s all.) For such a technique you just have to go picking it for XNUMX hours with direct hands , which, in general, is what conscripts do, only with crooked hands. It is in storage they do not ask. An extreme case once a year to go fishing where there is no traffic police, and then kill the day to start, for lovers such is the rest and sell.
  16. vostok68
    vostok68 21 June 2013 15: 19 New
    +1
    I had ZIL 157 in my warehouse, issue 62, we took it decommissioned in 1989, in 2005, when we had to write it off (second time), the driver poured water into the radiator (it was summer), brought the battery, checked the oil (since 89 the level has not changed) and the first time it started! Inflated the tires (the tire inflation system was already in place then), and drove out from under the canopy! I looked, there were almost no rubber parts, there was only one in the cooling system (the entire system is duralumin, in one place a rubber gasket, 3 cm thick, for alignment!) This is Technique! Power steering just was not!
    1. Orchestrarant
      Orchestrarant 21 June 2013 15: 28 New
      0
      This IRON head start will give Beham and Mars, an unkillable iron, almost eternal! URAL - always support power! Well, the same ZIL! laughing About KAMAZ, generally silent! You yourself know about DIRT! fellow
  17. Denis
    Denis 21 June 2013 15: 41 New
    +1
    Having a high cross, even in remote taiga quite economical tractor able to reach speeds of up to 60 km / h
    Very figuratively
    For the same reasons, other equipment may use very specific demand
    Part officers are confident that this KAMAZ will definitely be bought at auction
    If about KAMAZ-4310, then someone is disingenuous. At him, it is with him, that is. cross-country, there is a jamb that is detected on the roads, low-located transverse steering rod. It is very easy to bend and kirdyk convergence
  18. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 21 June 2013 15: 57 New
    0
    We still use decommissioned Zil-157 in the Transbaikal forests. And they do not just drive, but work for slaughter - they take out the forest. Also among the "foresters" are popular Zil-131 and the Urals. For some reason they don’t love Kamaz.
    1. Denis
      Denis 21 June 2013 16: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: VohaAhov
      For some reason they don’t like Kamaz
      A jamb of designers, the notorious transverse steering rod. When adding a handout, a lower gear, all the drive axles and wheels with a Christmas tree-protector and adjustable pressure, a quite successful road car does not always become off-road
      But the pre-heater for winter is there!
  19. Clueless
    Clueless 21 June 2013 16: 15 New
    +1
    glad of course for advertising ... but in Russia, unlike them Decommissioned equipment is sold already as year 2a without Title, such as old trucks are dangerous for public roads .. Yeah, dangerous, considering that the shishiga 70-80x is rust-free, and new KAMAZ and Urals are covered with it after a couple of years, diving in one word
  20. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 21 June 2013 16: 20 New
    0
    Good technique ..... for its time. But now produce this technique. somehow it’s not very much. In order to stay afloat, KAMAZ is trying to impose its MO technique. To produce equipment of the 60th, 7th years will not increase the country's defense capability.
  21. Genady1976
    Genady1976 21 June 2013 16: 58 New
    0
    This is sold at a price of 55 to 75 thousand hryvnia.
    1. Akim
      Akim 21 June 2013 17: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Genady1976
      This is sold at a price of 55 to 75 thousand hryvnia.

      Nice tuning. Dial on the site RST "Special equipment". There are no such prices. Although killed sixty for 5-6 pieces of greens you can buy.
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 21 June 2013 18: 17 New
        0
        This is sold at a price of 55 to 75 thousand hryvnia.
        it is written under the photo
        1. Akim
          Akim 21 June 2013 19: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Genady1976
          This is sold at a price of 55 to 75 thousand hryvnia.


          Where is such an inscription? It turns out not even tuning, but the GAZ 59037A. (Photo)
          I found this car and owner: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2978362/1999-volga-gaz-21/
          Petrozavodsk clearly does not use the Ukrainian hryvnia, as does Moscow.

          Although, if there are connections, you can even BTR-152 or BRDM-1 (they are more valuable) for a penny to buy.
    2. vostok68
      vostok68 21 June 2013 21: 55 New
      0
      No cross, in the swamp immediately sits on the bottom, be sure to go near the Urals, always pull it out!
  22. Genady1976
    Genady1976 21 June 2013 17: 08 New
    0
    But ento a miracle of engineering if hands grow from priests and there is money, then there is nothing impossible good
  23. Megatron
    Megatron 21 June 2013 17: 55 New
    0
    And what documents do they give? No need to customs? How to register?
    1. Genady1976
      Genady1976 21 June 2013 18: 32 New
      0
      Now BRDM-1 can be bought for about 400 rubles
      here are the sales announcements
      http://armored.auto.ru/vip/used/gaz/brdm/

      http://chelyabinsk.olx.ru/1-iid-223753341
      1. bask
        bask 21 June 2013 18: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Genady1976
        Now BRDM-1 can be bought for about 400 rubles

        It would be a booblo BRDM 1 must have bought.
        The front location of the MTO, change the engine, make a stern door, increase ((not much roof height)) and a cool car of the 21st century !!!
        It is not necessary to sell it for 400 pieces, but to take it into service. Only strengthen mine protection.
        1. Argon
          Argon 21 June 2013 23: 08 New
          +1
          Oh, I'm afraid, disappointed!
        2. combat192
          combat192 21 June 2013 23: 40 New
          +2
          Disgusting to operate the machine. The driver has virtually no forward vision. On the side, too. Instead of a winch - capstan. The brakes are weak, they burn on steep descents, and it is problematic to slow down the engine due to the relatively large mass of the car. The only positive thing is that the machine is simple and maintainable.
  24. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 21 June 2013 19: 40 New
    0
    According to experience, it would take about 3 days to leave. Have an overnight stay and meals. Well, a bag with gaskets according to the brand of technology. The guys will give the tool "for hire".
  25. Genady1976
    Genady1976 21 June 2013 22: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Akim
    Quote: Genady1976
    This is sold at a price of 55 to 75 thousand hryvnia.


    Where is such an inscription? It turns out not even tuning, but the GAZ 59037A. (Photo)
    I found this car and owner: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2978362/1999-volga-gaz-21/
    Petrozavodsk clearly does not use the Ukrainian hryvnia, as does Moscow.

    Although, if there are connections, you can even BTR-152 or BRDM-1 (they are more valuable) for a penny to buy.

    here it is written wink
    1. Akim
      Akim 21 June 2013 23: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Genady1976
      here it is written

      No offense, but this is an information site where the editorial board is, in principle, not responsible (moreover, they inserted a left picture). I gave you a paid ads site: http://rst.ua/oldcars/specialtech/btr/where they really sell them
      Itself once used to sell a motorcycle through it.
  26. mertvoe_exo
    mertvoe_exo 21 June 2013 22: 54 New
    0
    Oh, I would buy myself zila or urals (but fuel eats infection () thanks for the article
  27. Genady1976
    Genady1976 21 June 2013 23: 06 New
    0
    Quote: mertvoe_exo
    Oh, I would buy myself zila or urals (but fuel eats infection () thanks for the article

    buy such good I think (eating infection) a little
    1. Denis
      Denis 21 June 2013 23: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: Genady1976
      I think (eating infection) a little
      There is even easier and with less appetite
      Front End Conveyor (TPK), civil designation LuAZ-967 - four-wheel drive floating conveyor car
      1. Akim
        Akim 21 June 2013 23: 33 New
        0
        Quote: Denis
        Front Edge Conveyor (TPK),

        There is a photo in Neta. TPK there on last year’s exercises rides on the Crimean mountains. They are still in the troops
        1. Akim
          Akim 22 June 2013 00: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Akim
          Front Edge Conveyor (TPK),

          Where the infantry fails,
          And the armored train will not rush ...
    2. willow
      willow 15 December 2013 15: 49 New
      0
      and where can you buy one
  28. baboon
    baboon 21 June 2013 23: 24 New
    0
    eschob handing out leaflets to everyone
  29. Genady1976
    Genady1976 21 June 2013 23: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: Baboon
    eschob handing out leaflets to everyone

    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 22 June 2013 00: 08 New
      0
      By the way, production has stopped, but the market price does not fall on it. The only sensible Ukrainian car. He would have a better engine, generally the car would not have been priced
      1. Denis
        Denis 22 June 2013 01: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: Misantrop
        He would have a better engine, generally the car would not have been priced
        And move the tank, otherwise it’s on the rear overhang. With stones, there is often the opportunity to stay without fuel
  30. mithridate
    mithridate 22 June 2013 17: 59 New
    +1
    good old GAZ, ZIL and Urals will serve for a long time with appropriate care
  31. Dimka off
    Dimka off 23 June 2013 15: 39 New
    0
    sorry for such a technique! she just stands and rots in the open! it is a crime.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 24 June 2013 12: 33 New
      0
      We have planes / helicopters and ships rot. And this is a trifle. On the other hand, all sorts of terrorists will buy, let them stand (read - rot) better at storage bases.