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Overlooked "Widowed"

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I think that everyone knows about the M16, since it is very often opposed to the Kalashnikov assault rifle. It's no secret that the main problem of the M16 as a mass weapons is an automation system, which took a very long time to achieve acceptable results. Maybe not everyone, but many also know that the M16 is a very close relative of AR-15, you can't call a twin, and an equally close relative of AR-10, but this is not the whole family of weapons. We will talk about one of the samples, which is also related to these machines, in this article, namely about AR-18, also known as “Widowed”.


A weapon with such a loud name could well be an emergency replacement for the M16, as it had a lot of advantages, the main of which was an automation system with removal of powder gases from the barrel with a short piston stroke, and not a direct impact on the slide frame. It should be noted separately that the weapon even competed with the M16 for adoption by the US Army and successfully passed all the tests, but preference was given to the Koltovskaya M16 and, it seems to me, in vain. After the US Army refused this model of the right to manufacture it, they decided to sell it to another company, but again nobody was interested in the weapon, although it had no obvious shortcomings. Only Japanese company NOWA became interested in AR-18, as a result of the right to manufacture and modernize it was sold to her. But the Japanese company did not produce weapons for long, just a little more than 4 thousands of weapons were produced. It seems like they forgot about the weapon, but the British company Sterling became interested in AR-18, which subsequently produced the most of these weapons and continues to manufacture them now.

Personally, it is completely incomprehensible to me why this model of weapon did not receive the attention of the military; in reliability, the simplicity of production of the AR-18 considerably surpasses the first M16, namely, the designers sought to do so. The main goal in the design of weapons was to create a model capable of competing with the Kalashnikov assault rifle at the cost of production (meaning not the first "golden" AKs with a fully milled receiver), while not inferior to it in reliability. And the designers managed to achieve this goal. The weapon was designed so that its production could be adjusted anywhere, with a minimum equipment base, and this is a huge plus for any weapon. It was decided to abandon light alloys, as a result, the production became simpler, but the weight of the device increased, which apparently caused the loss of the M16 competition. All the details and even the butt had a simplified form and could be easily made of wood in the absence of plastic and so on.

The weight of the weapon could reach 3 kilograms, which, in my opinion, quite a bit. The length of the barrel machine was 457 millimeters, the total length of the weapon is 965 millimeters with the butt folded and 738 millimeters with the folded. It feeds weapons from detachable box magazines with a capacity of 20, 30 or 40 5,56x45 ammo, the rate of fire of 700-800 per minute. The main scope is dioptic, but it can also be installed differently, including riflescopes. Officially, there are 4 weapons models: AR-18 - the basic version of the device; AR-180 - deprived of the ability to conduct automatic fire; The AR-18S - the barrel was shortened to 257 millimeters and the AR180B - updated 2002 model of the year with a fixed butt, with a plastic lower part of the receiver and a trigger mechanism from the AR-15.

Naturally, it is easy to say that there are few good weapons, we need the facts of their successful use in military operations and they exist. Of course, they are not so large in view of the fact that weapons are not widely spread, but they exist. The most important of them is the use of weapons in the Irish Republican Army, where the apparatus and got its nickname "Widowed" and quite deserved, well, how many widows left this weapon can not exactly count, but not enough. You can, of course, say that this was a move of intimidation, and that there were no elementary weapons, but nevertheless, AR-18 is an excellent model that was completely ignored. But do not forget that this weapon was the basis for many other more common samples.

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  1. avdkrd
    avdkrd 13 June 2013 09: 04 New
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    Thank you for the article. Never heard of this sample. It is interesting, but apparently the whole world should thank corruption in the ASPnet, which allowed the Colt to smuggle the M16, so that an expensive, complex and unreliable rifle became the hallmark of America.
    1. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 14 June 2013 01: 33 New
      0
      the most important principle of the difference between the AR-15 and the M-16 (A2) was that on the AR-15 the manufacturing technology of parts was adopted from Kalashnikov’s. Parts became stamped and therefore interchangeable (you can assemble from several rifles - one), respectively, increased reliability. That's just the problem with the hardening of the barrel amers never decided ...
      why did amers in battles try to take possession of the "Kalash"? this is not because they are not patriots, just every soldier wants to live and Kalash gives many times more chances to stay alive ...
      the accuracy of the Kalash is less, the rumble is greater, it turns out of the hands with a long line, silently not reaching the cartridge into the chamber ...
      but he does what he has to - ALWAYS SHOOT.
      AND THIS IS THE MAIN POINT!

    2. Uhalus
      Uhalus 18 June 2013 00: 48 New
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      He has the Beetle in the book "Rifles and assault rifles" described / depicted.
      I still don’t understand why his amers didn’t take them into service ... Lobby? Bribe?
  2. avt
    avt 13 June 2013 09: 11 New
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    And it's good that they did not accept laughing so let them mess with M-16, not all the same for us EVEKI article +
  3. svskor80
    svskor80 13 June 2013 10: 10 New
    +3
    Probably not so obvious. There were some undeniable advantages for the M-16 which allowed it to become the main rifle of the USA and NATO. I am a supporter of the version that the Kalashnikov assault rifle is without question the best mass assault rifle in the world, but an unfairly dismissive attitude is often encountered towards the M-16.
    1. bazilio
      bazilio 13 June 2013 11: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: svskor80
      There were some undeniable advantages of the M-16 which allowed it to become the main rifle of the USA and NATO

      I’ll venture to suggest that the M16 has a smoother recoil and less barrel toss, since the axis of the barrel is closer to the butt point of the butt. Well, most likely the M16 was adopted due to powerful lobbying.
      1. Bosk
        Bosk 13 June 2013 19: 36 New
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        Somehow I had to compare at the M-16 and AK ... range, I must say the American left a very good impression, and if we say tomorrow there will be a choice of “What to take on a trip?” ... the choice is not easy, because if in the mud a swamp with all the corresponding shocks and other attributes of an unpredictable camping life ... then of course AK, but the 16th also cannot be thrown off the scales ... because the shooting quality ... and the extra kilogram on the shoulders in a distant race means a lot ...
        1. dustycat
          dustycat 15 June 2013 11: 33 New
          +1
          According to my own short experience (one store from M16M1) and a box from AKM - it is better to go camping with AK.
          But frolic at the shooting range - M16.
          M16 kicks less.
        2. Uhalus
          Uhalus 18 June 2013 00: 51 New
          0
          So maybe this is an old AK? What about the hundredth versions? - is it possible to compare? And then I know about them only theoretically.
      2. dustycat
        dustycat 15 June 2013 11: 31 New
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        That's about the lobby (or corruption, it’s bribery, it’s bribery) is true ..
        And everything else is solved
    2. luiswoo
      luiswoo 13 June 2013 12: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: svskor80
      There were some undeniable advantages at the M-16

      Yeah, in the form of the already established production of M-16 and not the desire to spend on the development of mass production of something fundamentally different, without any emergency. Which is logical for mass weapons.
      Although it’s funny how long they clung to the direct exhaust of gases, in the end they still gave birth to HK416. Unless of course it can be considered an upgrade to the M-16.
      1. Raphael_83
        Raphael_83 13 June 2013 18: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: luiswoo
        Yeah, in the form of already established production of M-16

        To the very point.
        In addition, for some reason, it does not pay attention to the fact that Eugene Stoner developed this sample in fact on its own initiative, no one gave him an order for this particular sample. Despite the fact that Colt really already had a serial product paid in Congress and the Pentagon.
        Or the Stoner family XM-22: weapons on a modular basis - a rifle / machine gun / carbine. All the few users during the tests noted the advantages of this system, but it did not go into production. This characterizes Stoner as a good designer, but a shitty marketer.
  4. Bongo
    Bongo 13 June 2013 10: 14 New
    +7
    This sample would probably get more distribution if it appeared earlier than M-16.
  5. bazilio
    bazilio 13 June 2013 11: 52 New
    +6
    Cyril, thanks for the article and for not ignoring the requests of readers)))

    As for me, the AR-18 is preferable to the M16 because of its automation scheme. Of course, her appearance is ugly, slightly clumsy, but you can’t say to the enemy "my machine is more beautiful, so you are killed."
    In addition to more reliable automation, the AR18 has one more plus in front of the M16 - the ability to fold the butt and make it out of bent wire, which reduces weight. And of course, do not forget about the price of the product)))
    At the expense of the fact that the AP18 is akin to reliability, AK is not sure, since several factors play a role here, including the size of the manufacturing tolerances. But the fact that the AP18 is much more reliable than the M16 is for sure.
    PS Cyril, I don’t remember that the topwar had a full review about one of the most famous assault rifles of the 20th century, the HK G3. I think many will be interested in reading about it.
    1. Ch0sen1
      Ch0sen1 13 June 2013 16: 21 New
      +2
      By the unreliability of the serial samples of the M-16, only the British surpassed their L-85, so in terms of reliability, the AR-18 wins in any case. And about the unpretentiousness, I read somewhere that it was originally developed as a simplified model for third world countries, not hoping to defeat the M-16 lobby.
    2. Raphael_83
      Raphael_83 13 June 2013 18: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: bazilio
      I think many will be interested in reading about it.

      Right! You give the entire G3 rifle family, starting with the very first samples and up to the G3K4, taking into account carbines and snipers (G3SG1). And polish the article on probably the most "spreading" family of "handbrake" HK-11/13, -21/23 hi .
  6. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 13 June 2013 12: 11 New
    +5
    Why why ... because you need to pay 16 dollars for one m1000, and 18 shares for one AR-200. and if 1 can be written off of 500k shares, then you can’t write off so many of 200 shares. (at prices I exaggerate)
    Everything is trite and simple in a capitalist-military country.
  7. vkrav
    vkrav 13 June 2013 12: 32 New
    +4
    If someone carefully watched the first "Terminator" - there Schwartz with such a piece of iron put a police station on his ears. AR18 did not go into service, but served as a prototype for several rifles, including the G36.
    1. DmitriRazumov
      DmitriRazumov 13 June 2013 17: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: vkrav
      AR18 did not go into service, but served as a prototype for several rifles, including the G36.



      I advise you to go to the site der Spiegel. There, the low quality of the design and execution of the highly-advertised modern Sturmgewehr G-36 (assault rifle) is discussed once again.
      When used in combat conditions, weapons quickly lose accuracy when firing bursts as a result of barrel warming up. Moreover, the instructions indicate that it is necessary to cool the barrel or replace it, which especially infuriates the German military. The plastic parts of the rifle also cannot stand up to criticism. quickly break down and lose their qualities in the field.
      Against this background, our old, but reliable AK looks more than attractive!

      http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/untreueverdacht-bei-waffenbeschaffung-


      de-maizieres-naechstes-problem-a-902186.html

      "Untreueverdacht bei Waffenbeschaffung: De Maizières Sturmgewehr-Problem"
      1. Mister X
        Mister X 13 June 2013 21: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: DmitriRazumov
        Sturmgewehr G-36
        When used in combat conditions, weapons quickly lose accuracy when firing bursts as a result of barrel warming up.

        Different weapons were used in Transnistria: the Romanian AK-74 licenses came across.

        Who shot them - complained about the same problem: after several long bursts
        the barrel was overheating and “spitting” with bullets.
        And after the shooting of 2's stores at a brisk pace, the trunk simply crooked from the temperature
        and it could be thrown away.

        I think that it’s not a design.
        The point is in the materials from which the product is made.
        1. anomalocaris
          anomalocaris 14 June 2013 18: 18 New
          +1
          Not only and not so much in the materials. The problem is in the manufacturing technology and heat treatment of the barrel. This is an extremely serious and hard-to-copy thing.
    2. Raphael_83
      Raphael_83 13 June 2013 18: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: vkrav
      If anyone carefully watched the first "Terminator"

      I looked carefully yes .
      Despite the fact that in the original, in the book, that is, the T-600 had a civilian sports target Ar-180 without the possibility of automatic fire, which he himself re-assembled with pens into a fully automatic machine. I don’t remember whether it was shown or not in the director’s version.
      From SW. hi
  8. Slevinst
    Slevinst 13 June 2013 12: 39 New
    0
    - are you married?
    - Yes
    broads
    it was a widower
  9. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 13 June 2013 12: 51 New
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    Quote: bazilio
    Well, most likely the M16 was adopted due to powerful lobbying.

    I agree, this factor was more decisive, plus the pathological slowness of the highest military ranks (this suffers in almost all countries), which is always enough of what is, and any changes, even for the better, are reluctant. Another explanation does not come to mind, given that the M16 was losing the AR18 both economically and qualitatively.
    They write that the AR18 served as the basis for the SA80, which is one of the worst examples of small arms. This is what you need to be a frame, so that on the basis of solid weapons to make a frank to and to sh sh.
    1. the47th
      the47th 13 June 2013 13: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: MRomanovich
      to and to and from to.

      Very high quality rifle.
  10. vkrav
    vkrav 13 June 2013 14: 49 New
    +4
    Very high quality rifle.

    Perhaps that is why the British in Iraq urgently changed it to the M4?
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  12. Mister X
    Mister X 13 June 2013 16: 22 New
    +4
    The AR-18 could be a great assault rifle,
    but it was doomed to oblivion for a number of political and economic reasons.
    Proof of its qualities may be the fact that when developing the British rifle SA-80
    some design decisions were borrowed from AR-18.

    And instead of becoming an inexpensive, simple and solid army assault rifle,
    AR-18 has become associated with terrorist weapons.


    Some rare varieties of AR-18

    Armalite AR-16 (version AR-18 chambered for 7.62 NATО)


    Armalite AR-180 Sporter carbine (civilian version of AR-18)


    Armalite AR-18-S short barrel
    Barrel length: 257 mm
    Total length with folded butt: 765 mm
    Speed: 800 rounds per minute
  13. alex-cn
    alex-cn 13 June 2013 16: 49 New
    0
    I heard about it ... and I considered it an option for the M-16, but my hands did not reach around. Thank you for the article. how is there plus to put the article?
    1. Mister X
      Mister X 13 June 2013 16: 59 New
      +1
      After the end of the article, below the author’s name there is a block “Article rating”.
      Click on the sign (+) and there will be a plus to the author.
  14. vkrav
    vkrav 13 June 2013 18: 10 New
    0
    The AR-18 could be a great assault rifle,

    And she is a beautiful assault rifle, just not very common ...
  15. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 13 June 2013 18: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: vkrav
    Perhaps that is why the British in Iraq urgently changed it to the M4?

    their special forces have long abandoned the native L85, in favor of the Canadian C8 (variation of M4) under the index L119. And the L85 is kept only for publication and if you need to walk under the guise of ordinary soldiers.
    In the photo these same L119
    1. vkrav
      vkrav 13 June 2013 19: 20 New
      +1
      Exactly so ... the information on the Internet slipped that in Iraq the replacement went directly in the database process, due to mass failures. It is indicative that even M85 are preferable in comparison with L4 ...
  16. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 13 June 2013 18: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: DmitriRazumov
    I advise you to go to the site der Spiegel. There, the low quality of the design and execution of the highly-advertised modern Sturmgewehr G-36 (assault rifle) is discussed once again.

    I personally heard from pseudo-experts that the G36 is not inferior in reliability to AK. The same thing is written on different sites and forums, and this has been repeatedly seen in various comments on this site. I am sure that this time these comrades will have some reasons to “whitewash” the G36 or justify their wrong. For example, that the quality has deteriorated only recently, and before the rifles were oh-oh-oh or that, the Hecklers relaxed, and so if they want, they will do no worse than Kalash, etc.
    1. DmitriRazumov
      DmitriRazumov 13 June 2013 21: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: MRomanovich
      personally heard from pseudo-experts that the G36 is not inferior in reliability to the AK. The same thing is written on different sites and forums, and this has been repeatedly seen in various comments on this site.

      The fact is that the topic has not been discussed for the first year, therefore, all these problems, for sure, are. But the German Defense Ministry spent quite a lot of money (hundreds of millions of euros) on the purchase of this trash. Moreover, it is noted that the previous rifle (G3) was better.
      Here are more links:
      Gewehr mit Schwächen (Weapon Rifle)
      http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-84631730.html
      Feuer ohne Wirkung (Fire without action)
      http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-88137118.html
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 14 June 2013 12: 40 New
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        Quote: DmitriRazumov
        Moreover, it is noted that the previous rifle (G3) was better.

        G3 was probably better in reliability, but I would attribute it to another class of weapons. She used a cartridge of 308 wines, which made automatic shooting from it impractical. And in single-fire mode, that’s it.
        By the way, once again they also remembered about her, Cyril, you need to write an article about Hever 3
  17. aleks77
    aleks77 13 June 2013 20: 18 New
    +6
    I want to ask why when they call the main directions for improving the AK, or when they look for its shortcomings in comparison with Western samples, they constantly call the absence of a receiving neck for the store. I think I shot enough, from various options the AK-shop changes easily and naturally (he flies there in one motion), he was holding an M-16 dummy in his hands, as I was told completely identical to the original, so you can insert it in it normally, you need to specifically focus on this (maybe a matter of habit), but more and more precise movements are needed, and this is presented as a virtue. Maybe I’m not catching up with something ?, who in the subject tell me.
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 14 June 2013 18: 32 New
      +1
      Wow, what are you politically incorrect! wink
      It's just that in AK and all its derivatives, a scheme for sending a cartridge from a two-row magazine was developed, which does not require accurate positioning of the latter. The enemies didn’t dop up this.
      1. aleks77
        aleks77 24 September 2013 02: 15 New
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        Thanks for the info. Well, what are the bastards eh?
  18. screw cutter
    screw cutter 13 June 2013 20: 25 New
    +1
    In Iraq, the NATO members have Chinese-made cartridges with all the consequences ...
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 13 June 2013 20: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: screw cutter
      In Iraq, the NATO members have Chinese-made cartridges with all the consequences ...

      I agree with you 100%. Chinese products-das ist schlecht! NATO with these mounts still gulp surprises belay
  19. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 14 June 2013 11: 19 New
    0
    What is there to think? the generals got a kickback from Colt and all.
  20. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 14 June 2013 17: 06 New
    0
    Interesting . I didn’t know about such a rifle before. Article +
  21. antikilller55
    antikilller55 15 June 2013 22: 20 New
    +1
    It’s good that our NATO friends have such wonderful weapons in service))))
  22. denis_redis
    denis_redis 16 June 2013 19: 22 New
    0
    interesting article, thanks to the author!
  23. Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 26 June 2013 12: 36 New
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    Quote: avdkrd
    Thank you for the article. Never heard of this sample. It is interesting, but apparently the whole world should thank corruption in the ASPnet, which allowed the Colt to smuggle the M16, so that an expensive, complex and unreliable rifle became the hallmark of America.


    And in “Terminator” (the first part), Arnie wasn’t dissecting him on a motobike at the end of the film! wink
  24. grck170
    grck170 16 December 2013 22: 04 New
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    I walked through the links provided here - I came across an interesting fact: in the photos from the German Wiki, the G36 stores (by the way, from transparent (well, translucent) plastic) have constructive “flows” like ratchets, I think in order to “pair” or even "build" stores.

    The mate, on the left side of the store, I think, is a thick washer, on a sturdy base leg, and the system is assembled, probably in a way: stop, turn until it clicks.

    The implementation, of course, is not without criticism - such a characteristic form will no doubt interfere with the free removal of the store from the pouch / unloading, etc.

    Nevertheless, "they" is already in service ...
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  26. grck170
    grck170 16 December 2013 22: 12 New
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    Something the second picture was not attached to the first message ...