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Poland covers the coast

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Poland covers the coast

10 May near the village of Semirovice (near the city of Gdynia Pomerania) ended the formation of the 1-th missile battalion of anti-ship coastal defense complexes. The division was created 1 January 2011 of the year, but began to be completed only in the fall of 2012. This decision was taken by the Polish leadership, taking into account the plans for the purchase of weapons for the Polish Navy for the period from 2012 to 2030. This division, as well as the planned two more, to preserve the combat potential will replace most of the surface ships of the Polish Navy, which will be decommissioned during the period from 2016 to 2022.


The division consists of two batteries, on 3 PU. Each PU carries 4 rockets. The division also has 6 vehicles for controlling armaments, 3 mobile communication centers (one divisional, 2 battery level), 3 command vehicles, two transport-charging vehicles (TZM), 2 radar TRS-15 s "Odra". The division covers the battery of two platoons ZSU-23-4MP Biała.




The division is equipped with a technique of joint Polish-Norwegian production. The main weapons The complex is anti-ship missile NSM (Naval Strike Missile) - developed by the Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace. These are cruise missiles with a range of its launch to 200 km and carry 120 kg. explosives.

The rocket is aimed at a multi-channel passive homing head (GOS) using GPS, infrared and thermal guidance in the final approach point, the rocket is made using stealth technology, which makes its search difficult. Also, the entire flight mode passes almost over the surface of the sea. The search engine GOS has an internal database of the “friend-foe” query and a ship classifier that allows you to identify targets and avoid mistakes. These missiles are mounted on Norwegian frigates and are included in the list of the F-35 armament in the air-to-surface class.



The advantages of the newest Norwegian missiles have been confirmed by a number of recent tests conducted in the presence of Polish experts at the US Navy range in California. With the additional missiles, the Sea Shield division cost the Polish budget over 700 million zlotys (340 million dollars).

Wheeled chassis and all electronic equipment based on it - Polish production. Almost half of the money transferred to the procurement accounts will remain in the country because the Norwegian concern created launchers, as well as the necessary vehicles and electronic equipment in cooperation with Polish companies.

Kongsberg also ordered from Warsaw's Bumaru Elektronika factories the latest version of the TRS-15 s "Odra" radar, Electronic devices and programs integrating NDR with the naval command system fleet Łeba, as well as part of the radio stations, was created by the efforts of the Marine Technology Center in Gdynia.




Military officials claim that the complex can attack not only surface, but also ground targets. To do this, they will create a single artillery control center and aviation. According to some Internet sources (http://www.tvn24.pl), the division reliably blocks ships from Baltiysk.
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  1. Denis
    Denis 7 June 2013 08: 48 New
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    Wheel chassis and all electronic equipment based on it - Polish production
    It causes the same doubt as the fact that the operators and issuing the command to start them there
    Maybe they will trust to wash the cars and to check the tire pressure is especially true
    In the nature of course there are still those ..., but not so naive as to believe these hyenas
    1. OTAKE
      OTAKE 7 June 2013 08: 57 New
      -2
      IMHO looks pretty good, very modern, Poles in eastern Europe are probably the most well-worn, well, Ukrainians, too, in terms of weapons
      1. LINX
        LINX 8 June 2013 01: 20 New
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        The Psheks ruined the construction of new ships and will soon be left without a fleet.

        We ordered 7 corvettes, then reduced it to 4..3..2 and eventually cut the first one mortgaged, and the manufacturer went bankrupt.

        They are trying to cover their shore with these missiles.
  2. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 7 June 2013 09: 02 New
    +2
    Wait for the Poles "Iskander" in Kaliningrad.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 7 June 2013 09: 47 New
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      Range of missiles of the Iskander-M complex, if deployed in the Kaliningrad region

      will scream to the whole world
    2. Akim
      7 June 2013 10: 37 New
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      Quote: Milafon
      Wait for the Poles "Iskander" in Kaliningrad.

      To counter the Iskander, Poland is developing the Wisla and Narew air defense systems. True, I doubt their ability to intercept non-ballistic targets. Well, don’t waste pennies.
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 7 June 2013 11: 29 New
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        Well let them spend it. They still throw NATO. For such a thing, it’s not a pity to print green papers
      2. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 7 June 2013 16: 36 New
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        Quote: Akim
        To counter the Iskander, Poland is developing the Wisla and Narew air defense systems. True, I doubt their ability to intercept non-ballistic targets. Well, don’t waste pennies.

        Over the years, 100 will be developed, only the iskanders will be out of fashion by then).
        1. Akim
          7 June 2013 17: 38 New
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          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          In 100 years, they’ll develop

          In the 17th year, it is believed that they will go into service. They, as usual, will not be developed from scratch, but let’s say an Israeli missile will be combined with its radar.
          1. Phantom Revolution
            Phantom Revolution 7 June 2013 19: 22 New
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            Quote: Akim
            In the 17th year, it is believed that they will go into service. They, as usual, will not be developed from scratch, but let’s say an Israeli missile will be combined with its radar.

            Imagine an Israeli missile capable of shooting down missiles with a quasi-ballistic movement. The iron dome? They don’t have enough dough this time, and the second dome in this version is capable of shooting down only kasama and hail, and then if there is no mass launch, but not something more serious.
            Who currently has their own pro and who will sell them these technologies? And the main question is where will they get that kind of money?)
            1. Akim
              7 June 2013 19: 38 New
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              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              Imagine an Israeli missile capable of shooting down missiles with a quasi-ballistic movement. The iron dome? They don’t have enough dough this time, and the second dome in this version is capable of shooting down only kasama and hail, and then if there is no mass launch, but not something more serious.
              Who currently has their own pro and who will sell them these technologies? And the main question is where will they get that kind of money?)

              You are an engineer who knows all of those. innovation? I doubt. I’m here, too, with a foot. Why should they buy technology when they can buy a finished product. But they were able to add an American missile to Cuba.
              1. Phantom Revolution
                Phantom Revolution 7 June 2013 20: 10 New
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                Quote: Akim
                You are an engineer who knows all of those. innovation? I doubt. I’m here, too, with a foot. Why should they buy technology when they can buy a finished product. But they were able to add an American missile to Cuba.

                Those who possess such innovations will replenish their Army first and foremost.
                The second missile defense is not a cheap thing, even if such people agree to sell where they get the money? If everything was so simple, then for a long time everyone would have their own pro))))
  3. Dima190579
    Dima190579 7 June 2013 09: 36 New
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    But how much can this thing fly. And in cases of which they can indeed be destroyed by the same iskanders. But the question is whether the location of these devices will be known.
    1. Akim
      7 June 2013 09: 55 New
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      I wrote:
      near the village of Semirovice (near the city of Gdynia Pomerania

      More precisely - apparently intelligence knows. But the complexes are mobile and in which case they can change their location.
    2. old man54
      old man54 8 June 2013 00: 41 New
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      200 km (see text)
  4. Denis
    Denis 7 June 2013 09: 43 New
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    Quote: Dima190579
    But the question is whether the location of these devices will be known.
    Themselves rent
    near the village of Semirovice (near the city of Gdynia Pomerania)
    Especially in such a small country, as it were, you won’t hide too much. Plus a companion and Judas, there are enough of them
  5. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 7 June 2013 10: 23 New
    +6
    This Polish division keeps under fire our base, Baltiysk, as well as the release of BF ships from Baltiysk to the sea. In the event of a conflict, they pose a real threat to the deployment of our warships.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 7 June 2013 10: 30 New
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      Quote: VohaAhov
      In the event of conflict, they pose a real threat to the deployment of our warships.

      Well, it’s not without reason that these missile systems were placed there. on the other hand, in the event of a conflict, these coastal defense complexes will become one of the first in the list of priority objectives of the Baltic Fleet
      1. old man54
        old man54 8 June 2013 00: 46 New
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        Quote: self-propelled
        Quote: VohaAhov
        In the event of conflict, they pose a real threat to the deployment of our warships.

        Well, it’s not without reason that these missile systems were placed there. on the other hand, in the event of a conflict, these coastal defense complexes will become one of the first in the list of priority objectives of the Baltic Fleet

        taking into account their range and in the case of really good performance characteristics and inconspicuousness, these anti-ship missiles are not only a "threat to the ships leaving the Baltic Naval Forces", but even if they are on an external roadstead and in the bay itself including !! And if with the possibility of using it on the ground, then the naval ground infrastructure and Kaliningrad itself too. :(
  6. alma
    alma 7 June 2013 12: 29 New
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    The question for those who are in the know: which countries have experience in successfully intercepting anti-ship missiles (if possible, statistics, target speed) ???
  7. knn54
    knn54 7 June 2013 12: 35 New
    +1
    Judging by the characteristics and the results of tests in the USA, the thing is serious - the Norwegians have not spent 15 years in vain; serious threat to the Baltic Fleet and the Kaliningrad region.
    It’s time for the Club-M to deploy. And strengthen naval aviation.
  8. Sochi
    Sochi 7 June 2013 12: 39 New
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    The complex can be Horsch, but here you are not fools either. I think that intelligence does not exist in vain, and there are counter-weapons, and we have special forces ... And then, can we really only be Iskander? Aviation, artillery, missiles, our tanks on their positions.
  9. Zerkalo
    Zerkalo 7 June 2013 13: 13 New
    +2
    Well done Norwegians, somehow I didn’t take them into account before. Only us Americans, yes limes. It is necessary to examine in more detail the characteristics of the rocket. Marching and maximum speeds. The flight altitude on the march ... True, 120 kg warhead is not so much, BUT and we do not have aircraft carriers. Unpleasant, of course.
    1. Akim
      7 June 2013 13: 19 New
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      Quote: Zerkalo
      True 120 kg warhead is not so much, but we do not have aircraft carriers. Unpleasant, of course.

      Where in the Baltic is an aircraft carrier? What a hippopotamus in a puddle. And the Argentine Exosets easily drowned the British cruisers with a slightly larger mass of explosives. Here the counteraction itself is important.
      1. old man54
        old man54 8 June 2013 00: 57 New
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        Quote: Akim
        Where in the Baltic is an aircraft carrier? What a hippopotamus in a puddle. And the Argentine Exosets easily drowned the British cruisers with a slightly larger mass of explosives. Here the counteraction itself is important.

        I absolutely agree with you about the presence of an aircraft carrier in the Baltic, without thinking of a friend, of course. :) But what kind of British "cruisers" drowned the "Exosets"? I understand that during the Falkland War? :) And did they drown, or did they disable them?
        And the mass of explosives ... makes calculations that with a mass of SDs of more than a ton and kinetic energy of the corresponding speed of 600/700 m / s with 45-degree diving on a destroyer-type SC (4000/5000 gross tons), there is a high probability of drowning thereof even without the use of explosives. Only at the expense of energy and breaking through the ship's hull.
        1. Denis
          Denis 8 June 2013 01: 50 New
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          Quote: old man54
          what kind of English "cruisers" drowned the "Exosets"?
          I don’t speak for the cruiser, but Sheffield, although he is a destroyer, drowned
          1. old man54
            old man54 8 June 2013 04: 46 New
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            Quote: Denis
            I don’t speak for the cruiser, but Sheffield, although he is a destroyer, drowned

            They didn’t "sink" it, but put it out of action with this missile; he didn’t even take water into the case! The fire was, but was extinguished. All electronics has been removed from stor, including DG, yes. But the ship remained perfectly afloat. He drowned a few days later when towing to the nearest shelter, during a severe storm, because in fact, it was difficult to manage and it was impossible to keep his nose in the wave, he “sucked in”, and the pump failed to start, and utop! I do not think that this is a drowning in a rocket, there is more a coincidence.
            1. Akim
              8 June 2013 07: 45 New
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              Quote: old man54
              They didn’t "sink" it, but put it out of action with this missile; he didn’t even take water into the case!

              I was wrong. Argentines sunk two frigates "Exosets"
              HMS Ardent (F184) and HMS Antelope (F170). Both Type 21.
              One was 10, the other was 8 years old.
  10. tlauicol
    tlauicol 7 June 2013 18: 07 New
    +4
    Norway experienced the day before yesterday: a missile with a real warhead was launched on June 4 from a Skjöld-type Steil corvette and hit a surface target, which used the Oslo-type frigate Trondheim decommissioned in 2006
  11. Rriv
    Rriv 7 June 2013 20: 30 New
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    Quote: VohaAhov
    This Polish division keeps under fire our base, Baltiysk, as well as the release of BF ships from Baltiysk to the sea. In the event of a conflict, they pose a real threat to the deployment of our warships.

    Well, in Kaliningrad, at the parades they are showing "Redoubt"
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  13. xomaNN
    xomaNN 7 June 2013 20: 34 New
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    An interesting Polish approach is to replace BRAV surface ships! An umbrella can be created 150-200 km from the coast by the Poles, but this is only if the BF and the Air Force will not catch mice at all. And for the speeding exit from Baltiysk, a preventive strike against these machines suggests itself.
    1. old man54
      old man54 8 June 2013 01: 04 New
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      Quote: xomaNN
      An interesting Polish approach is to replace BRAV surface ships! An umbrella can be created 150-200 km from the coast by the Poles, but this is only if the BF and the Air Force will not catch mice at all. And for the speeding exit from Baltiysk, a preventive strike against these machines suggests itself.

      no, according to all the latest trends in the Baltic Sea, NATO is asking for the conclusion that ships on the KDBF are bigger than a corvette; otherwise ... a potential floating target! Powerful MA, boats with anti-ship missiles and not only, MPK, DPL, coastal missile complexes.
    2. tlauicol
      tlauicol 8 June 2013 05: 20 New
      +1
      which is more difficult: to find a ship at the pier or a mobile missile launcher? Yes, and the opposite side can strike a preventive one. this thing can make life very difficult for the navy in Baltiysk
  14. Rriv
    Rriv 7 June 2013 20: 37 New
    +2
    Meanwhile, the Germans came to Baltiysk on the frigate "Sachsen"
    1. old man54
      old man54 8 June 2013 01: 01 New
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      Quote: RRiv
      Meanwhile, the Germans came to Baltiysk on the frigate "Sachsen"

      their nastalgia torments the poor! :) Baltiysk, this is Pillau, their naval base until 1946.
  15. Rriv
    Rriv 7 June 2013 20: 39 New
    +1
    The team also has frau
  16. Rriv
    Rriv 7 June 2013 20: 43 New
    +1
    This week a Visby-type corvette called at the port of Gdansk
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  18. Rriv
    Rriv 7 June 2013 21: 04 New
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    Visby - Poop
  19. Rriv
    Rriv 7 June 2013 21: 05 New
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    Visby in Gdansk
    1. old man54
      old man54 8 June 2013 04: 40 New
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      and what, the advertising flag "Volvo" even on the warships of the Swedes now stands, and even when entering ports of other countries? :))
  20. Rriv
    Rriv 7 June 2013 21: 07 New
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    Swedish sailors
  21. Rriv
    Rriv 7 June 2013 21: 08 New
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    Corvette Cannon
    1. old man54
      old man54 8 June 2013 01: 06 New
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      and what, the barrel of the gun in the tower is hiding or something ??? Interesting girls are dancing! :)
      1. Denis
        Denis 8 June 2013 03: 03 New
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        Quote: old man54
        and what, the gun barrel is hiding in the tower
        Maybe stealth technology like on airplanes, weapons in the compartment
        1. old man54
          old man54 8 June 2013 04: 38 New
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          it’s clear that the technology is of low radar visibility, but that’s what the gun’s barrel would be in the turret ... the first time I see this! Swedes surprised, honestly! I wonder how she erases? :)) Okay?
          1. Denis
            Denis 8 June 2013 11: 52 New
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            Quote: old man54
            I wonder how she erases? :)) Okay?
            The main thing is not when it is closed
  22. old man54
    old man54 8 June 2013 01: 21 New
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    The article is interesting and somewhat disturbing! And in the light of the article about the latest NATO + Baltic Sea maneuvers minus Russia is so special. Trends and prospects however. :( If Estonia places the same “junk” on itself, then the Kronstat naval base will be locked up. It's sad. Right in the fall of 1941, even without a real war, I personally thought that we had large NKs in the Baltic In the USSR, they also believed, but kept some kind of fleet under the swift capture and blocking of the Danish straits in case of large-scale databases with NATO. Now you need to forget about the straits for a long time, so why create targets for NATO in the form of large NK? during the Second World War, the Germans perfectly demonstrated to us that all issues in the Baltic were solved with the help of MA and a small number of surface fleet. , it will be very annoying for our former friends in the bloc and not only! And so it is necessary: ​​naval aviation (MA); several corvettes for the flag (1 or 2); patrol border guards for controlling the shell F; IPC near zone and raid; boats with anti-ship missiles in abundance; DPL; coastal anti-ship missiles; fleet support and life support vessels. And today is enough. The situation will change, let's think!
    1. Denis
      Denis 8 June 2013 01: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: old man54
      Navy Kronstat will be under lock and key. Sad Right autumn 1941
      So after all, in the First World battleships, except for the "Glory", the battles did not lead and the cruiser was not particularly. Mostly destroyers and huge mine productions
      1. old man54
        old man54 8 June 2013 04: 30 New
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        Quote: Denis
        Quote: old man54
        Navy Kronstat will be under lock and key. Sad Right autumn 1941
        So after all, in the First World battleships, except for the "Glory", the battles did not lead and the cruiser was not particularly. Mostly destroyers and huge mine productions

        I agree with you! But so the “battleships, except for the Glory, didn’t fight and the cruiser wasn’t particularly" because how would they conduct these battles? You will familiarize yourself with the payroll of the German High Seas Fleet during the 1st MV and the Baltic Fleet, and I think you will understand everything yourself. Theirs, the German fleet, competed on an equal footing with the British, and he would have figured out our own if he had a real opportunity. Therefore, the tsar admirals kept ships of the 1st rank in the naval base, and operated by escorted high-speed forces by raiding methods. The forces of the fleets of the Baltic Fleet and the German Kreismarin were very incompatible, so ...
        But in the 1st MV BF was not locked in its naval base, but had the opportunity of free access to the sea. But in the 41st, even if they wanted, in the late autumn, then hell already! he was barely saved in the Kronstat raids, where to go to sea there.
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  24. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 9 June 2013 14: 04 New
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    In my opinion, Visby doesn’t even reach the corvette except for MRKs. And in terms of displacement and armament. But large ships in the Baltic are really worthless now, and if you are left to send the Far East.
    1. old man54
      old man54 10 June 2013 03: 40 New
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      still left! And DBK type Tapir, and "Yaroslav the Wise" and frigates (BOD) 1135.