Poland covers the coast

10 May near the village of Semirovice (near the city of Gdynia Pomerania) ended the formation of the 1-th missile battalion of anti-ship coastal defense complexes. The division was created 1 January 2011 of the year, but began to be completed only in the fall of 2012. This decision was taken by the Polish leadership, taking into account the plans for the purchase of weapons for the Polish Navy for the period from 2012 to 2030. This division, as well as the planned two more, to preserve the combat potential will replace most of the surface ships of the Polish Navy, which will be decommissioned during the period from 2016 to 2022.

The division consists of two batteries, on 3 PU. Each PU carries 4 rockets. The division also has 6 vehicles for controlling armaments, 3 mobile communication centers (one divisional, 2 battery level), 3 command vehicles, two transport-charging vehicles (TZM), 2 radar TRS-15 s "Odra". The division covers the battery of two platoons ZSU-23-4MP Biała.

The division is equipped with a technique of joint Polish-Norwegian production. The main weapons complex is the anti-ship missile NSM (Naval Strike Missile) - developed by the Norwegian company Kongsberg Defense & Aerospace. These are cruise missiles with a launch range of up to 200 km and carries 120 kg. explosive.

The rocket is aimed at a multi-channel passive homing head (GOS) using GPS, infrared and thermal guidance in the final approach point, the rocket is made using stealth technology, which makes its search difficult. Also, the entire flight mode passes almost over the surface of the sea. The search engine GOS has an internal database of the “friend-foe” query and a ship classifier that allows you to identify targets and avoid mistakes. These missiles are mounted on Norwegian frigates and are included in the list of the F-35 armament in the air-to-surface class.

The advantages of the newest Norwegian missiles have been confirmed by a number of recent tests conducted in the presence of Polish experts at the US Navy range in California. With the additional missiles, the Sea Shield division cost the Polish budget over 700 million zlotys (340 million dollars).

Wheeled chassis and all electronic equipment based on it - Polish production. Almost half of the money transferred to the procurement accounts will remain in the country because the Norwegian concern created launchers, as well as the necessary vehicles and electronic equipment in cooperation with Polish companies.

Kongsberg also ordered from Warsaw's Bumaru Elektronika factories the latest version of the TRS-15 s "Odra" radar, Electronic devices and programs integrating NDR with the naval command system fleet Łeba, as well as part of the radio stations, was created by the efforts of the Marine Technology Center in Gdynia.

Military officials claim that the complex can attack not only surface, but also ground targets. To do this, they will create a single artillery control center and aviation. According to some Internet sources (http://www.tvn24.pl), the division reliably blocks ships from Baltiysk.

Comments

[Denis]

Wheel chassis and all electronic equipment based on it - Polish production

It causes the same doubt as the fact that the operators and issuing the command to start them there
Maybe they will trust to wash the cars and to check the tire pressure is especially true
In the nature of course there are still those ..., but not so naive as to believe these hyenas

[OTAKE]

IMHO looks pretty good, very modern, Poles in eastern Europe are probably the most well-worn, well, Ukrainians, too, in terms of weapons

[LINX]

The Psheks ruined the construction of new ships and will soon be left without a fleet.

We ordered 7 corvettes, then reduced it to 4..3..2 and eventually cut the first one mortgaged, and the manufacturer went bankrupt.

They are trying to cover their shore with these missiles.

[MilaPhone]

Wait for the Poles Iskander in Kaliningrad.

[self-propelled]

will scream to the whole world

[Akim]

Quote: Milafon

Wait for the Poles Iskander in Kaliningrad.

To counter the Iskander, Poland is developing the Vistula and Narev air defense systems. True, I doubt their ability to intercept non-ballistic targets. Well, don’t spend pennies.

[il grand casino]

Well let them spend it. They still throw NATO. For such a thing, it’s not a pity to print green papers

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: Akim

To counter the Iskander, Poland is developing the Vistula and Narev air defense systems. True, I doubt their ability to intercept non-ballistic targets. Well, don’t spend pennies.

Over the years, 100 will be developed, only the iskanders will be out of fashion by then).

[Akim]

Quote: Phantom Revolution

In 100 years, they’ll develop

In the 17th year, it is believed that they will go into service. They, as usual, will not be developed from scratch, but let’s say an Israeli missile will be combined with its radar.

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: Akim

In the 17th year, it is believed that they will go into service. They, as usual, will not be developed from scratch, but let’s say an Israeli missile will be combined with its radar.

Imagine an Israeli missile capable of shooting down missiles with a quasi-ballistic movement. The iron dome? They don’t have enough dough this time, and the second dome in this version is capable of shooting down only kasama and hail, and then if there is no mass launch, but not something more serious.
Who currently has their own pro and who will sell them these technologies? And the main question is where will they get that kind of money?)

[Akim]

Quote: Phantom Revolution

Imagine an Israeli missile capable of shooting down missiles with a quasi-ballistic movement. The iron dome? They don’t have enough dough this time, and the second dome in this version is capable of shooting down only kasama and hail, and then if there is no mass launch, but not something more serious.
Who currently has their own pro and who will sell them these technologies? And the main question is where will they get that kind of money?)

You are an engineer who knows all those. innovation? I doubt. I, too, are not in the teeth here. Why would they buy technology when they can buy a finished product. They were able to attach an American missile to Cuba.

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: Akim

You are an engineer who knows all those. innovation? I doubt. I, too, are not in the teeth here. Why would they buy technology when they can buy a finished product. They were able to attach an American missile to Cuba.

Those who possess such innovations will replenish their Army first and foremost.
The second missile defense is not a cheap thing, even if such people agree to sell where they get the money? If everything was so simple, then for a long time everyone would have their own pro))))

[Dima190579]

But how much can this thing fly. And in cases of which they can indeed be destroyed by the same iskanders. But the question is whether the location of these devices will be known.

[Akim]

I wrote:

near the village of Semirovice (near the city of Gdynia Pomerania

More precisely - apparently intelligence knows. But the complexes are mobile and in which case they can change their location.

[old man54]

200 km (see text)

[Denis]

Quote: Dima190579

But the question is whether the location of these devices will be known.

Themselves rent

near the village of Semirovice (near the city of Gdynia Pomerania)

Especially in such a small country, as it were, you won’t hide too much. Plus a companion and Judas, there are enough of them

[VohaAhov]

This Polish division keeps under fire our base, Baltiysk, as well as the release of BF ships from Baltiysk to the sea. In the event of a conflict, they pose a real threat to the deployment of our warships.

[self-propelled]

Quote: VohaAhov

In the event of conflict, they pose a real threat to the deployment of our warships.

Well, it’s not without reason that these missile systems were placed there. on the other hand, in the event of a conflict, these coastal defense complexes will become one of the first in the list of priority objectives of the Baltic Fleet

[old man54]

Quote: self-propelled

Quote: VohaAhov

In the event of conflict, they pose a real threat to the deployment of our warships.

Well, it’s not without reason that these missile systems were placed there. on the other hand, in the event of a conflict, these coastal defense complexes will become one of the first in the list of priority objectives of the Baltic Fleet

taking into account their range and in the case of really good performance characteristics and stealth, these anti-ship missiles are not just "the threat of ships leaving the naval base Baltiysk", but also if they are found on the outer roadstead and in the bay itself !! And if it can be used on the ground, then the ground infrastructure of the naval base and Kaliningrad itself too. :(

[soul]

The question for those who are in the know: which countries have experience in successfully intercepting anti-ship missiles (if possible, statistics, target speed) ???

[knn54]

Judging by the characteristics and the results of tests in the USA, the thing is serious - the Norwegians have not spent 15 years in vain; serious threat to the Baltic Fleet and the Kaliningrad region.
It’s time for the Club-M to deploy. And strengthen naval aviation.

[Sochi]

The complex can be Horsch, but here you are not fools either. I think that intelligence does not exist in vain, and there are counter-weapons, and we have special forces ... And then, can we really only be Iskander? Aviation, artillery, missiles, our tanks on their positions.

[Zerkalo]

Well done Norwegians, somehow I didn’t take them into account before. Only us Americans, yes limes. It is necessary to examine in more detail the characteristics of the rocket. Marching and maximum speeds. The flight altitude on the march ... True, 120 kg warhead is not so much, BUT and we do not have aircraft carriers. Unpleasant, of course.

[Akim]

Quote: Zerkalo

True 120 kg warhead is not so much, but we do not have aircraft carriers. Unpleasant, of course.

Where in the Baltic is an aircraft carrier? What a hippopotamus in a puddle. And the Argentine Exosets easily drowned the British cruisers with a slightly larger mass of explosives. Here the counteraction itself is important.

[old man54]

Quote: Akim

Where in the Baltic is an aircraft carrier? What a hippopotamus in a puddle. And the Argentine Exosets easily drowned the British cruisers with a slightly larger mass of explosives. Here the counteraction itself is important.

I absolutely agree with you about the presence of an aircraft carrier in the Baltic Sea, without thinking the comrade spoke out of course. :) But what kind of English "cruisers" did the "Exosets" sink? As I understand it, during the Falklands War? :) And were they drowned, or were they incapacitated?
And the mass of explosives ... makes calculations that with a mass of SDs of more than a ton and kinetic energy of the corresponding speed of 600/700 m / s with 45-degree diving on a destroyer-type SC (4000/5000 gross tons), there is a high probability of drowning thereof even without the use of explosives. Only at the expense of energy and breaking through the ship's hull.

[Denis]

Quote: old man54

what kind of English "cruisers" did the "Exocets" sink?

I don’t speak for the cruiser, but Sheffield, although he is a destroyer, drowned

[old man54]

Quote: Denis

I don’t speak for the cruiser, but Sheffield, although he is a destroyer, drowned

They did not "drown" him, but disabled him with this rocket, he did not even take water inside the hull! The fire was, but was extinguished. All electronics were removed from the side, including the DG, yes. But the ship remained perfectly afloat. He drowned a few days later while being towed to the nearest shelter during a severe storm. in fact, it was difficult to manage and it was not possible to keep him with his nose on the wave, he "drank", and the pump could not be started, and drowned! I don’t think that this is a sinking by a rocket, it’s more a coincidence.

[Akim]

Quote: old man54

They did not "drown" him, but disabled him with this rocket, he did not even take water inside the hull!

I made a mistake. The Argentines sank two frigates with Exocets
HMS Ardent (F184) and HMS Antelope (F170). Both Type 21.
One was 10, the other was 8 years old.

[tlauicol]

Norway tested the day before yesterday: A missile with a real warhead was launched on June 4 from the Steil corvette of the Skjold class and hit a surface target, which used the decommissioned Trondheim frigate of the Oslo class in 2006

[Rriv]

Quote: VohaAhov

This Polish division keeps under fire our base, Baltiysk, as well as the release of BF ships from Baltiysk to the sea. In the event of a conflict, they pose a real threat to the deployment of our warships.

Well, in Kaliningrad at parades they show "Redoubt"

[xomaNN]

An interesting Polish approach is to replace BRAV surface ships! An umbrella can be created 150-200 km from the coast by the Poles, but this is only if the BF and the Air Force will not catch mice at all. And for the speeding exit from Baltiysk, a preventive strike against these machines suggests itself.

[old man54]

Quote: xomaNN

An interesting Polish approach is to replace BRAV surface ships! An umbrella can be created 150-200 km from the coast by the Poles, but this is only if the BF and the Air Force will not catch mice at all. And for the speeding exit from Baltiysk, a preventive strike against these machines suggests itself.

Yes, no, according to all the latest trends in the Baltic Sea, the NATO side "suggests itself" the conclusion that the ships on the KDBF are larger than the corvette, otherwise ... a floating potential target! Powerful MA, boats with anti-ship missiles and not only, MPK, DPL, coastal anti-ship missile systems.

[tlauicol]

which is more difficult: to find a ship at the pier or a mobile missile launcher? Yes, and the opposite side can strike a preventive one. this thing can make life very difficult for the navy in Baltiysk

[Rriv]

Meanwhile, the Germans came to Baltiysk on the frigate "Sachsen"

[old man54]

Quote: RRiv

Meanwhile, the Germans came to Baltiysk on the frigate "Sachsen"

their nastalgia torments the poor! :) Baltiysk, this is Pillau, their naval base until 1946.

[Rriv]

The team also has frau

[Rriv]

A Visby-class corvette entered the port of Gdansk this week

[Rriv]

Visby - Poop

[Rriv]

Visby in Gdansk

[old man54]

and what, the advertizing flag "Volvo" even on warships at the Swedes is now, and even when entering the ports of other countries? :))

[Rriv]

Swedish sailors

[Rriv]

Corvette Cannon

[old man54]

and what, the barrel of the gun in the tower is hiding or something ??? Interesting girls are dancing! :)

[Denis]

Quote: old man54

and what, the gun barrel is hiding in the tower

Maybe stealth technology like on airplanes, weapons in the compartment

[old man54]

it’s clear that the technology is of low radar visibility, but that’s what the gun’s barrel would be in the turret ... the first time I see this! Swedes surprised, honestly! I wonder how she erases? :)) Okay?

[Denis]

Quote: old man54

I wonder how she erases? :)) Okay?

The main thing is not when it is closed

[old man54]

The article is interesting and somewhat disturbing! And in the light of the article about the latest NATO maneuvers + the Baltic Sea countries minus Russia is so special. Trends and prospects, however. :( If Estonia accommodates the same "junk", then the Kronshtat naval base will be under lock and key. It's sad. Right in the fall of 1941, without even starting a real war! Under the USSR they also considered, but kept some kind of fleet under the rapid seizure and blocking of the Danish straits in case of large-scale military bases with NATO. Now you need to forget about the straits for a long time, so why produce targets for NATO in the form of large NK? During the Second World War, the Germans perfectly demonstrated to us that all issues in the Baltic are resolved with the help of MA and a small number of surface fleets. I see the prospect of submarine actions in the Baltic water area very dim in view of its shallow water and modern development of submarine detection means. , it will be very annoying for our former friends in the block and not only! But it is necessary: ​​naval aviation (MA); several corvettes for the flag (1 or 2); border patrol boats to control the shel F; IPC near zone and raid; boats with anti-ship missiles in abundance; DPL; coastal anti-ship missiles; ships for support and life of the fleet. And enough for today. The situation will change, let's think!

[Denis]

Quote: old man54

Navy Kronstat will be under lock and key. Sad Right autumn 1941

So after all, in the First World War battleships, except for "Glory", did not fight and cruisers were not particularly. Mostly destroyers and huge mine laying

[old man54]

Quote: Denis

Quote: old man54

Navy Kronstat will be under lock and key. Sad Right autumn 1941

So after all, in the First World War battleships, except for "Glory", did not fight and cruisers were not particularly. Mostly destroyers and huge mine laying

I agree with you! But so "battleships, except for" Glory ", did not fight and the cruiser was not particularly" because how would they conduct these battles? You will familiarize yourself with the payroll of the German high seas fleet during the 1st WW and the Baltic Fleet, and I think you will understand everything yourself. Their, the German fleet, competed on an equal footing with the British, and with ours, he would, in case of a real opportunity, at once figure it out. Therefore, the tsarist admirals kept the ships of the 1st rank in the naval base, and operated by raiding methods with escort high-speed forces. The forces of the fleets of the Baltic Fleet and the German Kreismarine were very incomparable, so ...
But in the 1st MV BF was not locked in its naval base, but had the opportunity of free access to the sea. But in the 41st, even if they wanted, in the late autumn, then hell already! he was barely saved in the Kronstat raids, where to go to sea there.

[1c-inform-city]

In my opinion, Visby doesn’t even reach the corvette except for MRKs. And in terms of displacement and armament. But large ships in the Baltic are really worthless now, and if you are left to send the Far East.

[old man54]

there are still! And DBK type Tapir, and "Yaroslav the Wise" and frigates (BOD) 1135.