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Combat lasers are becoming a sign of superpower

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In the near future, the US Armed Forces will receive a new super-weapon for armament. A number of experts have already seen this in Washington’s desire to consolidate the superpower status of the country at the next round of scientific and technological progress. This time, a solid-state laser, which, according to media reports, is capable of burning targets “like a blowtorch”, acts as a super-weapon. Already in 2014, the current laser installation will have to appear on one of the American warships in the Persian Gulf.


It will happen on 2 a year earlier than previously planned. The reason for all the high intensity of R & D in this direction. It is reported that the combat laser will be able to successfully fight with combat boats and UAVs of the enemy. At the same time, so far he lacks the power to deal with supersonic aircraft and rockets on the final part of the trajectory, but this is only a matter of time.

An experimental laser installation is planned to be installed on an Austin-style Pons landing transport dock, the American newspaper The Wall Street Journal reports. This ship is part of the 5th fleet The U.S. Navy, whose current area of ​​responsibility is the Persian Gulf and the western Indian Ocean. The laser gun, estimated at $ 32 million, will be used to defeat Iranian UAVs and light boats. According to the military, this weapon can be used quite effectively in climatic conditions in the Persian Gulf.
Combat lasers are becoming a sign of superpower

It is reported that the laser weapons will be mounted on board the transporter early next year. Previously, this laser gun was on the destroyer "Dewey" type "Arly Burk." In August and September, the 2012 laser cannon took part in tests, during which a new weapon could hit the 3 UAV. Later, a laser gun was used to hit target boats. In total, the new super-weapon was able to hit 12 targets from 12.

Work on the creation of a laser gun (which received the designation LaWS) for the needs of the US Navy, starting from 2007 year. This setup uses a solid-state laser. This laser can not hit targets at long distances, but is suitable for the destruction of small aircraft at medium and short distances. In addition, LaWS can be used to dazzle optical surveillance systems for ships and unmanned aerial vehicles. Currently, the LaWS laser gun is being set up and prepared for the upcoming long service in the sea.

It is reported that the cost of one such laser installation today is 32 million dollars, but in the long run, with the start of mass production, its value should fall. At the same time, each shot of a laser gun costs only 1 dollar (and maybe even less), while launching a short-range interceptor missile costs the taxpayers 1,5 million dollars. The US Navy is confident that the use of such weapons will allow them to save huge sums of money spent on ammunition (the laser gun has unlimited ammunition). The cost of the shot is cheap, and for its work nothing is needed except powerful sources of electricity.

Also, the US Navy published a video in which the LaWS laser cannon shoots a UAV quite easily as part of firing tests. The record shows how an unmanned aerial vehicle flashes and in just a couple of seconds turns into a burning torch, flying apart. In this case, with the new laser, not everything is as smooth as we would like. The Center for Congressional Research notes the fact that the problems of using laser weapons are still not completely resolved. In particular, these installations are very dependent on weather conditions, and the usual smoke screen will help protect against their impact.

Ordinary precipitation and phenomena such as fog, rain, sandstorms reduce the effectiveness of combat lasers. At the same time, the Americans, understanding this, tried to create an adaptive optical system. Its prototype served as a system that was used in telescopes. As a main element, it uses a mirror, which is able to change its curvature indicators to 670 once a second. So there is a possibility that the US military will be able to increase the effectiveness of shooting in bad weather conditions to an acceptable level.

However, there are at the laser gun and such disadvantages that can not be corrected in any way. A laser gun can fire only at visible targets. In the event that the object is located beyond the horizon line or is hidden by other objects, it remains inaccessible to the new super-weapon. If we talk about flying targets, for example, UAVs, then a reflecting surface can be fairly easily protected from a laser. Despite this, laser systems are a promising and formidable weapon, on which the United States has high hopes.

Currently, the US needs to retain the status of a superpower; for this, the country needs to get ahead of its geopolitical competitors in the military-technical sphere. The United States needs a breakthrough and the opportunity to break away, as it once happened, even if only for a couple of years, with nuclear weapons. Nowadays, nuclear weapons are no longer perceived as something unattainable. Of course, not all countries have it, but it is no longer necessary to talk about its exclusivity. Moreover, not only the Americans, but also other members of the UN Security Council, who once decided to limit the possible competition by the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, are losing the monopoly on nuclear weapons. The non-proliferation regime of these weapons erodes over time, despite the efforts made by members of the “nuclear club”. For this reason, those of the major players who are still claiming world domination, began to experience understandable anxiety.

It is important to note the fact that there are simply no superpowers without a super-weapon. The military force, which would differ by an order of magnitude from the military forces of other countries, is one of the 4's most important elements that fix the country's exclusivity in the international arena. The three other elements of superpower today are the highest economic potential, ideological and political authority in the world, global expansionist aspirations. All of them are present in the United States in varying degrees. It is only a new frightening baton, the possession of which greatly facilitates the advancement of their interests and is much more effective than all the tricks of diplomacy.

It is not for nothing that it is said that a kind word and a pistol can achieve much more than just a kind word. In the modern world, the one who is stronger is still right. So it was throughout stories humanity, the most striking example of the past is the Roman Empire I – II centuries of our era. In those years, the empire rose above the rest of the world in almost all the main indicators that characterize the national power of the country. At the same time, the Roman Empire had a superpower mission - to civilize the nations surrounding the empire in its own image and likeness.

The only missing element of the US superpower now is the country's lack of super-weapons, the very fact of which could put Washington’s potential competitors in the position of a multi-million Aztec empire against the 500 of Corteses armed with an Arquebus. The musket was 100 times more deadly than a spear, the machine gun is many times more effective than a silicon gun, and an armadillo equipped with a steam engine will surpass any galley with at least a hundred, even with a thousand rowers at the oars. At the same time, the effect of a technical and civilizational gap in such collisions begins to work with amazing efficiency. Hence, the US’s striving as soon as possible and as far as possible to move forward in the race of military technologies and the practical use of new weapons, says military expert and columnist Viktor Litovkin.

According to the expert, nuclear weapons will soon come to an end, but new types of weapons are coming up: radiation weapons, laser weapons, radiological weapons, and EW systems that are able to disable the enemy’s navigation, reconnaissance and target designation systems. And without the use of these systems, it is simply impossible to imagine modern combat. At present, the matter is not even in hardware and armored vehicles, but in the fact that all this “hardware” cannot move, because its engines will be disconnected. Because they have jammed shutters of guns, optical devices "will cease to see", but airplanes will not take off, and so on. For developments in this direction, many see the development of military science.

However, not everyone agrees with the presence of superpowers and their role in the modern world. So well-known Russian politician Yevgeny Primakov predicts the end of the era of superpowers. In his opinion, the very notion of “superpower” is now only a category of cold war times. In those years, the superpowers united around themselves a conglomerate of states, ensuring their security in the conditions of a fairly tough confrontation of opposing blocs. It was precisely the security of other countries that allowed the superpowers to play that role, dominating the decision-making that all other allies of the alliance obeyed. These days the picture has changed. The absence of a global confrontation on the planet eliminated the need to cover up a “nuclear umbrella”, which the USSR and the USA “opened up” over their partners and allies.

According to Yevgeny Primakov, another indication of the end of the era of superpowers is the fact that after the end of the cold war, the world began to develop towards a multipolar structure. This conclusion today can be illustrated by a number of existing examples. One such example is the European Union (EU). Which today has turned into one of the centers of power, which is comparable in its capabilities with the United States. Moreover, who will undertake today to assert that the PRC, which pumps up economic muscles, will want to be part of the system of a unipolar world and will meekly lagging behind the events that are determined from one world center? The same applies to Russia, Japan, India.

However, if we continue the discussion in terms of “superpower”, then we can agree with the fact that any real superpower should have its own super-weapon in the arsenal. In this case, the weapon must not always be symmetrical. The strength of countries may be different, for someone it may consist in combat lasers, and for someone else in the presence of energy resources. For example, the Russian Federation is the main supplier of hydrocarbons on the world market, which means that if desired, our countries can become an energy superpower, since no modern combat laser can compensate for the heat deficit on our planet during the winter season.

Information sources:
-http: //rus.ruvr.ru/2013_04_19/Boevoj-lazer-kak-priznak-sverhderzhavi
-http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/553176/#sel=9:1,9:48;7:1,7:8
-http: //lenta.ru/news/2013/04/09/laser
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  1. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 23 2013 08: 30
    +9
    "At present, the point is not even in iron and armored vehicles, but in the fact that all this" hardware "will not be able to move, because its engines will turn off. Because their cannon locks will jam, optical devices will" stop seeing ", and airplanes will not take off, etc. It is precisely behind developments in this direction that many see the development of military science. "


    Something too much. The gates will jam, the engines will turn off, the joints, muscles and brain will fail .... And for those who apply it, everything will work?
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. April 23 2013 09: 22
      +5
      The Americans are better at cutting their military budget. And that's nice.
      1. strannik595
        strannik595 April 23 2013 11: 06
        +6
        here is the worst weapon of the Americans ....... with which they overwhelmed the whole world and brainwashed everyone ....... the ideology of consumption, to live to eat
        1. Patriot of Russia
          Patriot of Russia April 23 2013 19: 17
          +7
          Quote: author
          The strength of countries can be different, for some it can consist in combat lasers, and for others, there are energy resources. For example, the Russian Federation is the main supplier of hydrocarbons in the world market, which means that, if desired, our countries can become an energy superpower

          what wild nonsense! in the absence of a modern army and navy, all our resources will soon cease to be ours. and yes ... an energy superpower sounds much better than a raw materials appendage
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 23 2013 17: 31
      +3
      Quote: fzr1000
      And for those who apply it all will work?

      Yes, at the sight of this, for many, only the "intestinal tract" will work ...
      1. jasorgho
        jasorgho April 24 2013 16: 49
        0
        Who-thread knows the principle of operation of this "compression"? is not written anywhere?
        does he shoot at the retina or does it illuminate the optics?
        1. mamba
          mamba April 24 2013 21: 20
          +1
          Quote: jasorgho
          Who-thread knows the principle of operation of this "compression"? Does it shoot at the retina or light up the optics?

          Self-propelled laser system 1K17 "Compression", made on the basis of self-propelled guns 2S19 "Msta-S", is designed to counter the optoelectronic devices of the enemy. Serially not produced. It was adopted in 1992 and was much more perfect than a similar complex "Stiletto". The first difference that catches your eye is the use of a multi-channel laser. Each of the 12 optical channels (upper and lower row of lenses) had an individual guidance system. The multichannel scheme made it possible to make the laser system much range. As a counter to such systems, the adversary could defend his optics with filters that block radiation of a certain frequency. But against the simultaneous defeat by rays with different wavelengths, the filter is powerless.
          Lenses in the middle row relate to aiming systems. The small and large lenses on the right are the probe laser and the receiving channel of the automatic guidance system. The same pair of lenses on the left are optical sights: a small daylight and a large night. The night sight was equipped with two laser range-finders. In the stowed position, both the optics of the guidance systems and the emitters were closed by armored shields. In SLK 1K17 “Compression”, a YAG solid-state YAG laser with neodymium additives was used. Such lasers are compact enough and reliable for use in self-propelled installations. In pulsed mode, they are able to develop impressive power. Generation in YAG lasers occurs at a wavelength of 1064 nm. This infrared radiation in difficult weather conditions is less susceptible to scattering than visible light. Due to the high power of a non-linear crystal YAG laser, harmonics can be obtained - with a wavelength that is several times shorter than the original. Thus, multi-band radiation is formed.
          The performance characteristics of 1K17 "Compression":
          Case length, m 6,0
          Case width, m 3,6
          Ground clearance, m 0,44
          Armor type homogeneous, steel
          Armament:
          Machine guns 1 x 12,7 mm NSVT
          Engine - V-84A supercharged diesel engine, max. power: 618 kW (840 hp)
          Highway speed, km / h 60
          Suspension type independent with long torsion bars
          Overcoming rise, hail. Xnumx
          Breaking wall, m 0,85
          Overcoming ditch, m 2,8
          Overcoming ford, m 1,2
  2. ramsi
    ramsi April 23 2013 08: 35
    +2
    cost of one shot - $ 1? Is it like this ?! Or is it already "crammed" into the cost of the entire installation? It's a pity nothing is said about the laser power
    1. Russian
      Russian April 23 2013 09: 28
      +1
      If only electric power is needed for a shot, then the price should be much lower than conventional weapons. Although of course the figure is too small, I agree. Maybe atl for a nuclear power plant? She can give energy as much as you want.
      1. ramsi
        ramsi April 23 2013 10: 19
        +3
        And, finally, it came to light: they did not begin to consider the cost of the power plant (like, it’s all the same attached to another expense item)
        1. Setrac
          Setrac April 23 2013 14: 41
          +3
          Even if you count ONLY the cost of energy, you still get MUCH more than a dollar.
          1. Dim Dim
            Dim Dim April 23 2013 21: 46
            0
            Apparently this is the cost of developing a resource (depreciation of equipment), and everything else in individual articles is not included in this calculation.
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak April 23 2013 10: 49
        +2
        Maybe atl for a nuclear power plant? She can give energy as much as you want.

        How much you want can give in a certain period of time. Those. The electricity from the reactor must be accumulated somewhere, so that it can then be "put" into the laser with one powerful pulse. It is unlikely that the reactor will be installed only for a gun, it’s wasteful. Therefore, the question immediately arises of the rate of fire of this prodigy. And the optical and beam-generating systems of the laser are also not eternal. So about the 1 dollar, they turned down.
        1. Batman
          Batman April 23 2013 13: 38
          0
          Yes, and I think such a shot will turn off all engines.
    2. Ivan Kalinovich
      Ivan Kalinovich April 23 2013 22: 01
      0
      When I, far from science, I saw the cost of a laser shot, I just cried)))
    3. dddym
      dddym April 23 2013 22: 22
      0
      Yes, they laughed and forgot - miracle weapons will not happen. The 1 dollar is capable of burning a UAV at a short distance - this means - the target must either be motionless or fly in one direction without changing speed - which is impossible in reality. Yes, and in fair weather.
  3. Mikhail Topor
    Mikhail Topor April 23 2013 08: 43
    +3
    IMHO the theme of combat lasers confusing waste of money. too many restrictions, including the cost of a shot. more effective and reliable traditional weapons. perhaps in the future, someday, but not in the near future.
    1. 101
      101 April 23 2013 20: 06
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Topor
      Theme of combat lasers confusing spending money.

      First of all, it’s a weapon for outer space, and even in space, protection from a laser is cheaper than he is by orders of magnitude. But firing from space, for example, on ships transporting liquefied gas or on fire-vulnerable industries, can be discussed.
      1. Saburov
        Saburov April 23 2013 20: 15
        +5
        But you took into account atmospheric density, there were two drawbacks of lasers: low power and beam divergence. Whatever the power, but if a beam of radiation with a diameter of several kilometers falls on the target, the benefit of such a laser is zero — unless you can make a rangefinder out of it ... There is only one way to deal with beam divergence — by reducing the wavelength. However, it follows from the fundamental laws of physics that the shorter the wavelength, the more difficult it is to implement quantum amplification of radiation, or, in human terms, to build a laser. The first quantum amplifiers (masers), created in the distant 1950's, worked in the radio range (rather long waves), after a decade, lasers operating in the optical range appeared. And a decade later, a theoretical and experimental basis was formed for creating a laser in the x-ray range. However, to use such a laser as a gun for firing at warheads, fantastic pumping energy was required. Only a nuclear explosion could give it.
        1. Saburov
          Saburov April 23 2013 20: 16
          0
          Teach physics and astrophysics gentlemen and then no lasers and pilobudgetniki are not afraid of you.
          1. Saburov
            Saburov April 23 2013 20: 20
            +5
            Read at your leisure energy intensity, solid-state chemical lasers, satellites, UAVs, you can just as well magnify Saturn with a magnifier from the ground to create sufficient power, you need a huge amount of energy, A-60 was intended for target designation and destruction of enemy optoelectronic systems, and they didn’t shoot at the shuttle, but simply drove it at 10% of the power from the Sary-Shagan range, a completely different Terra-3 installation, and do not forget about the density, if this is a laser, then in space it is just a flashlight, no one canceled physics .
            1. 101
              101 April 23 2013 20: 34
              0
              It’s unacceptable in the atmosphere, but why didn’t it roll in space I didn’t understand
              1. Saburov
                Saburov April 23 2013 21: 50
                +1
                In principle, electromagnetic waves can be focused, as Alexey Tolstoy wrote, and, in general, all existing projects are not far from the immortal “hyperboloid”. But no matter how precisely the focusing mirrors were made, the beam still, alas, diverges. And the degree of this discrepancy is directly proportional to the radiation wavelength divided by the beam diameter. It turns out that the shorter the wave and the wider the beam, the smaller the discrepancy. And in order for the beam to be effective, it must be thin, otherwise all the power is scattered over too large an area.
                The main military effect of the laser beam is purely thermal, light quanta should simply be absorbed by the affected object and heat it to such a state that it becomes unusable. In order to influence the target (the metal hull of a ship or satellite), a certain number of joules must reach it. It is difficult to say exactly how much, and even if this is known, they will most likely not talk about it loudly. And yet, apparently, it is at least several tens or even hundreds of megajoules - for such vulnerable objects as a rocket with a full fuel tank, and no less than thousands megajoules - for nuclear warheads that successfully overcome dense layers of the atmosphere without losing operability . For a continuous laser, even without taking into account the beam divergence, we are already talking about powers of thousands of megawatts. But then it turns out that the power of the energy source should be millions of kilowatts! And indeed it is.
                1. Saburov
                  Saburov April 23 2013 21: 51
                  +2
                  In addition, it is pointless to constantly shine a laser through an empty airless space - first you need to aim it at the target and only after that "cut it" at full power. The reactor does not work well in such a "torn" mode. In battle, if enemy warheads fly in hundreds, and there is no time to allocate false targets, the laser will have to be fired quite often, and for this reason most of the developed combat lasers are chemical. Combustion of gaseous fuel (remember the pyramids of engineer Garin?) Brings the internal environment of the laser into an excited state, and it begins to generate powerful electromagnetic radiation. Therefore, it is necessary to act as follows - fired, purged the system, filed a new portion of reagents, and only after that - a new salvo ...
                  And yet, suppose that energy is found: for example, an 1 ton of fuel per 1 shot. As is known, the usual laser operation scheme provides for the “pumping” of the working medium (crystal or gas) with energy up to a certain level, and when a jump occurs, the accumulated energy is discharged by a light beam of a certain wavelength. But where to get that energy that did not go to the goal with the beam? So, for the most part, it will stand out in the firing device in the form of heat. Thus, only 40% will go to the goal, but the remaining 60% will remain with us. And therefore, even having damaged an enemy ship, we can easily vaporize our own. It is no accident that even in much less powerful earthly installations, flowing water cooling is used not only for mirrors, but also for the working volume of the laser.
                  1. Saburov
                    Saburov April 23 2013 21: 52
                    +2
                    In principle, of course, you can cut the enemy battleship with a hyperboloid beam, but the glowing “Pyramids of Engineer Garin” will heat the hyperboloid several times stronger than the cut armor. So how then do lasers cut metal? But there both the volume of the working fluid where the laser beam is generated and the dimensions of the focusing system are incomparably larger than the heating zone.
                    However, shooting from space at ground or atmospheric targets in certain conditions can be effective. A laser beam in a gas can undergo "self-focusing" when the atmospheric channel heated by the laser becomes a kind of optical fiber. The beam is also able to focus to a point that can become a source of x-ray radiation due to colossal heating in the area of ​​self-focusing. The main thing here is to use this effect so that such a point appears at the right time and in the right place ...
                    There is another problem - existing beam focusing systems use reflective mirrors. So what prevents the enemy from using the same mirror coating as a defense? Not to mention the simple rotation of the warhead, tens of times lowering the effectiveness of beam weapons.
                    1. Saburov
                      Saburov April 23 2013 22: 00
                      +3
                      So all this talk about lasers, combat robots and other sacred things, nonsense. Learn well and laugh at similar articles. The worst weapon on earth is man, for he will do anything to kill his own kind.
                      1. jasorgho
                        jasorgho April 24 2013 16: 56
                        0
                        Thanks for reminding everyone again, but maybe you know how the "compression" complex works?
                      2. mamba
                        mamba April 24 2013 22: 34
                        0
                        Quote: Saburov
                        So all this talk about lasers, combat robots and other sacred things, nonsense. Learn well and laugh at similar articles.

                        Eh, our lasers did not know about this, otherwise they would not have created "Terra", "Omega" and other laser combat installations. Where have you been before? So much money down the drain !!! laughing
                2. mamba
                  mamba April 24 2013 22: 24
                  0
                  Quote: Saburov
                  In principle, electromagnetic waves can be focused, as Alexey Tolstoy wrote, and, in general, all existing projects are not far from the immortal “hyperboloid”.

                  The example with Tolstoy is incorrect, because Alexei Nikolaevich developed the idea of ​​concentration of energy in a narrow beam completely illiterate:
                  - hyperbolic mirrors do not have a focus, and therefore are not able to form even a wide beam;
                  - the optics forming the beam are completely absent;
                  - the source of radiation is burning coal pyramids, the volume of which does not allow focusing;
                  - There is no talk of any laser effect.
            2. mamba
              mamba April 24 2013 22: 11
              0
              Quote: Saburov
              The A-60 was intended for target designation and destruction of the enemy's optoelectronic systems, but they didn’t shoot at the shuttle, but simply conducted it at 10% of the power from the Sary-Shagan test site, a completely different Terra-3 installation.

              Ground-based laser systems have been developed in the USSR since 1975 to refine tracking of space targets and ballistic missiles. The tests were carried out at the Sary-Shagan training ground in Kazakhstan: facility 2505 (Terra, NPO Astrophysics) for missile and anti-satellite defense, and facility 2506 (Omega, NPO Almaz) for conventional air defense.
              Once "Terra" caused an international scandal. Marshal Ustinov proposed the use of a laser complex to accompany the American shuttle. And on October 10, 1984, during the 13th flight of the Challenger, when it flew over the Balkhash area, the 5N26 / LE-1 laser locator measured the parameters of the target when operating in the detection mode with a minimum radiation power. The ship’s orbit was 365 km, and the inclined detection and tracking range was 400-800 km. The shuttle suddenly disconnected, equipment malfunctions arose and astronauts felt unwell. When the Americans began to sort out what had happened, they realized that the crew had been subjected to some kind of artificial influence from the USSR. An official protest was made. In the future, a laser installation and radio engineering complexes having a high energy potential were not used to accompany the shuttles.
              Quote: Saburov
              and don’t forget about density, if here it’s a laser, then in outer space it’s just a flashlight, no one canceled physics.

              Complete nonsense. In your opinion, does the vacuum absorb more than the atmosphere with all its attendant features, such as water vapor and dust? Indeed, no one has canceled physics. laughing
        2. mamba
          mamba April 24 2013 22: 01
          0
          Quote: Saburov
          There is only one way to deal with beam divergence - by reducing the wavelength.

          Have you forgotten about optics?
          Quote: Saburov
          However, it follows from the fundamental laws of physics that the shorter the wavelength, the more difficult it is to implement quantum amplification of radiation, or, in human terms, to build a laser.

          Nonsense. For example, in semiconductor lasers, the gain in the cavity is determined by the material and geometry of the crystal.
          Quote: Saburov
          The first quantum amplifiers (masers), created in the distant 1950s, worked in the radio range, and after a decade, lasers operating in the optical range appeared.

          In 1954, Townes, Basov and Prokhorov invented the first microwave generator - an ammonia maser.
          In 1960, Meiman demonstrated the operation of the first pulsed solid-state optical quantum generator - a red ruby ​​laser. In December of the same year, a helium-neon laser was emitted that emitted in a continuous mode (Javan, Bennet, Harriot). Initially, the laser worked in the infrared range, then it was modified to emit visible red light.
          Quote: Saburov
          And a decade later, a theoretical and experimental basis was formed for creating a laser in the x-ray range. However, to use such a laser as a gun for firing at warheads, fantastic pumping energy was required. Only a nuclear explosion could give it.

          The first laboratory X-ray laser was created at the Livermore Laboratory in the United States in 1985. Since the active medium of an X-ray laser is a highly ionized plasma with an electron temperature of several hundred eV to several keV created by irradiating a target (for example, a thin foil of selenium and yttrium), powerful visible and IR lasers are quite suitable.
          1. Saburov
            Saburov April 30 2013 01: 07
            0
            Once again, carefully read about the beam efficiency and focusing system. And you mocked about optics when the magnifying glass goes back and forth, this is a decrease in the wavelength, just like in music tuning the string, the harder you pull, the more there will be oscillations (overtones).
            1. Saburov
              Saburov April 30 2013 01: 45
              0
              And the fairy tales about the shutdown of the equipment on the shuttle, do not believe the Terra 3 long-range targeting system was nothing more, although the project was originally for working out a combat laser, but for a second shot (that is, until the target was destroyed) a minimum of 3-4 hours was required, so this program in the USSR was long ago rejected as a combat one, and Terra was too energy-intensive and complicated, so they came up with Krona and simultaneously increased the orbital group.
  4. cyclist
    cyclist April 23 2013 08: 46
    0
    and we have our own lasers ... in Skolkovo
  5. tan0472
    tan0472 April 23 2013 09: 20
    +1
    "Normal precipitation and phenomena, such as fog, rain, sandstorms reduce the effectiveness of combat lasers. "


    "... if an object is located beyond the horizon or hidden by other objects, it remains unattainable for a new superweapon ..."

    And if the ship will also have electromagnetic guns, which do not care about "fog and rain" and "horizon line"?
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 April 23 2013 09: 28
      +9
      And if you also have blasters and photon guns ...
      1. Gemar
        Gemar April 23 2013 14: 55
        +4
        Quote: fzr1000
        And if you also have blasters and photon guns ...

        And we will protect ourselves from them with a force field! bully
    2. Locksmith
      Locksmith April 23 2013 11: 25
      +3
      Quote: tan0472
      And if the ship will also have electromagnetic guns, which do not care about "fog and rain" and "horizon line"?

      Well, if so, pour half a bucket of water into the power shield of your house and you will see "how he doesn’t care about the rain" laughing
    3. alean245
      alean245 April 23 2013 13: 39
      0
      And how to focus radiation? In the radio range, it will not be possible to achieve the same electrical dimensions of the aperture as in the optical. And it will only be possible to burn off with an undirected source of radiation unless you use your own equipment.
    4. Zeus
      Zeus April 23 2013 21: 12
      -1
      on each ship we supply turbograves, disintegrators, multiresonators and verticals. And to protect the generators of the protective field. And for the repair of ships, droids and iron ropes headed by the uterus will work on them.
  6. Mitek
    Mitek April 23 2013 09: 22
    +4
    Quote: cyclist
    and we have our own lasers ... in Skolkovo

    We exchanged our lasers for "democracy", sausage and jeans. And only now we are starting to realize what happened and slowly move away from the edge of the abyss ...
    1. Locksmith
      Locksmith April 23 2013 11: 30
      +1
      Ours went the other way, create a mega laser, with a fucking aperture and power and with the ability to control the beam (read, you can shoot into space), a stationary laser with its own power plant, much more useful than these ship "flashlights" 100 kW, at least a constellation of satellites is possible probably "clean up"
  7. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal April 23 2013 09: 26
    +2
    Welcome all!

    Already in the 2014 year, the existing laser system will have to appear on one of the American warships in the Persian Gulf.


    - maybe it is! But it seems to me that this is another trolling!
    1. Containers
      Containers April 23 2013 23: 09
      0
      This is another SOI.
  8. rereture
    rereture April 23 2013 09: 30
    +1
    Ha ha ha ha and ha again. Is the US already dictating chtoli fashion? I drank the budget, it is clear to any person that there is no efficiency. what is the range of the shot? How many kilowatt / hours does it consume :) and why not a Gaussian cannon or railgun?: - D: -D: -D: -D
    Or even a plasma gun: -D: -D: -D

    But the placement of such a gun in space would be more expedient than on the ships, IMHO.
  9. lecturer
    lecturer April 23 2013 09: 40
    +5
    From the article:
    "The strength of countries may be different, for some it may be in combat lasers, while others have energy resources. For example, the Russian Federation is the main supplier of hydrocarbons on the world market, which means that, if desired, our country can become an energy superpower, ... "
    YES, this is a HUGE argument and for a long time! So we have to urgently wrap ourselves up with gas pipelines, so that any capitalist first thinks about: "Is it worth putting your cow on the meat ... all the more so as it starts butting hard?" And besides that, we will have time to recover in the defense industry, in science, and in democracy ... "Moscow was not built right away!" First time or what! Just don't panic!
    Excuse me old, BUT OUR GDP is SMART! man ...
    1. Batman
      Batman April 23 2013 13: 45
      +1
      The instant shutdown of oil supplies, and that’s it. The United States has reserves on the domestic market for 1-2 months, since they consume too much. And without oil, they will not be able to bomb for more than 3 months. Oil needle, however)
  10. nickname 1 and 2
    nickname 1 and 2 April 23 2013 09: 46
    +1
    Quote: fzr1000
    Something too much. The gates will jam, the engines will turn off, the joints, muscles and brain will fail .... And for those who are


    WRITING, THE BRAIN DOES NOT REFUSE?

    No, there is a bright thought! Why do Russians fight? Gas enters the EU.
    If the war they block the gas again must be heated with fuel oil or coal! What the hell is this? Again bomb the gas pipeline, etc., and then who will restore it?
    How much is it?
  11. leon-iv
    leon-iv April 23 2013 09: 55
    +7
    gentlemen get down from the armored car no one lost anything
    http://army.lv/?s=1585&id=4783
    And let the amers break forehead with scientific and technical problems, but we will be half a step away from them without spending so many resources.
  12. Wolland
    Wolland April 23 2013 09: 59
    0
    The laser in the hands of the Americans is nothing more than a child’s water gun.
  13. nagi
    nagi April 23 2013 10: 03
    +4
    If I’m not mistaken, recently the numbers slipped through the news that amers are experiencing 100 kW of LaWS. From the article it turns out that their cost of 100KV of electricity costs $ 1, given that the Berkeley’s power plant is not nuclear, it turns out that the burned fuel operating and depreciation charges for a diesel generator when generating 100KV should be less than $ 1, since There are also operating costs for LaWS itself. At such prices, it is not clear how their economy is generally in stagnation. smile
    1. Pimply
      Pimply April 23 2013 17: 40
      -3
      She has not stagnated with them for a long time.
      1. Dim Dim
        Dim Dim April 23 2013 21: 56
        0
        At the moment, in the economy of amers "money makes money" all real production has been moved to regions that are cheaper in terms of labor costs.
  14. igor36
    igor36 April 23 2013 10: 34
    +1
    At the same time, each shot of a laser gun will cost only $ 1 - complete garbage. The cost of a kilowatt of electricity in the United States is at least 8 cents. even 20 kW of power from the network will cost $ 1,6 on a ship from a generator 2 orders of magnitude higher. But still much cheaper rockets.
  15. Syrdon
    Syrdon April 23 2013 10: 44
    +2
    something similar was already created in the USSR at the end, I am sure that we have stepped forward, at least in theory. it’s up to you to introduce it all. and also about meteo and other conditions that prevent the laser from shooting at the target, and if you make the installation two-channel. say the combination of microwave radiation and a laser
    1. kontrol
      kontrol April 23 2013 12: 02
      0
      from the destroyed country they got a prototype and brag about it now
    2. Batman
      Batman April 23 2013 13: 51
      +3
      something similar was already created in the USSR at the end, I am sure that we have stepped forward, at least in theory.

      1) Moreover, a plane with a laser system already flew in our 80s, I won’t write down the details, you can google.
      2) The USSR also placed lasers on ships for experiments.
      3) And even sent into space for testing.

      And now, the United States only after 30 years makes attempts to repeat something like that. Many laser drawings in the 90s went to the USA ...

      And science in the Russian Federation is also not worth it)
  16. BARKAS
    BARKAS April 23 2013 10: 51
    +2
    Amer decided to conduct a naval battle at short distances or what? Who will let them so close.
    1. Mitzhel
      Mitzhel April 23 2013 11: 47
      0
      lasers are part of the missile defense of ships in addition to long-range interceptor missiles. Missiles do not shoot down they shoot from lasers ... something like this
    2. Batman
      Batman April 23 2013 13: 54
      0
      Yes, after 5 years they will say that the development was carried out in the wrong direction, and this laser did not confirm with the declared performance characteristics. and it's big, big drank.
  17. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city April 23 2013 12: 25
    +2
    Divorce and cut. Even a simple rocket can hit from beyond the horizon. The cost of a shot is generally ridiculous.
  18. smprofi
    smprofi April 23 2013 14: 09
    +4
    The US Armed Forces in the near future will be armed with a new superweapon.

    Well, what can I tell you about Sakhalin ...
    We’ve been sitting here for a long time ...

  19. srha
    srha April 23 2013 14: 30
    +4
    I don’t know how UAVs, but already on the ship there are a couple of hoses? Set them up to set up a water curtain for the duration of the action. And let them shoot into the water ...
    1. smprofi
      smprofi April 23 2013 14: 56
      +2
      Quote: srha
      on the ship there

      some kind of smoke screen installation
      1. Containers
        Containers April 23 2013 23: 17
        +1
        The water curtain is more effective. In the sense that raw materials are everywhere for her on the ship. =)
  20. WIN969
    WIN969 April 23 2013 14: 48
    +1
    It is interesting, but if the surface of the equipment or missiles will have such a coating that will simply reflect this laser beam, like a mirror.
    1. mamba
      mamba April 24 2013 22: 48
      0
      Quote: WIN969
      and if the surface of technology or missiles will have such a coating that will simply reflect this laser beam, like a mirror.

      The reflective is better. He returns the beam to where it was sent.
  21. Voin sveta82
    Voin sveta82 April 23 2013 14: 55
    +3
    I don’t know how you .. comrades on the site .. and I believe that no matter how much you showered your might there abroad ... whether it's amers .. or some Chinese ... but I BELIEVE ONLY ONE .. WHAT WE ARE THE MOST WORLD PEACEKEEPERS ... PLANETS ... . ALL AGGRESSORS .... ANIMALS OF ANY MERCHANT ... WHAT HAPPENS IN SYRIA ...)) WE ARE ... POWER .. FIGHTING SPIRIT ... AND POWER .. EVEN WITH TODAY WEAPONS .. AVAILABLE WITH US .. WE ALL ... P .. IDAROV .. EUROPEAN AMERICOSIAN .. ETC .. Soaked ..)))) So it was and will ALWAYS ..))) And do not write me back any shnyaga about Putin. .and corruption .... today ... RUSSIAN PEOPLE are POWER ... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  22. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city April 23 2013 14: 56
    +2
    Quote: WIN969
    It is interesting, but if the surface of the equipment or missiles will have such a coating that will simply reflect this laser beam, like a mirror.

    The time for defeat will increase by an order of magnitude. And most importantly, in an advertisement, the rocket goes along the wire. In reality, it will not. That is, the heating point will slip away.
  23. Setrac
    Setrac April 23 2013 15: 01
    +2
    100 kW, as it is not enough. It’s interesting what kind of energy is the artillery gun, tav like an account on megajoules, and in order to inflict comparable damage and energy should be comparable. The bill should be tens of megawatts, and so - a laser gun, which takes a LOT of space.
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev April 23 2013 18: 18
      +1
      It is unclear what it means - the target is hit by a laser system?
      It seems like they (these installations) are designed to destroy optoelectronic systems.
      Or does the author of the article believe that the laser gun is something like a hibernoid engineer Garin? wink
  24. MG42
    MG42 April 23 2013 15: 07
    +4
    How much does the laser use efficiency decrease in bad weather conditions, for example, in dense fog or a storm suddenly arises, in short, is this even said in two grandmother that she will work at all?
  25. Mister X
    Mister X April 23 2013 16: 01
    +3
    Quote: smprofi
    yes ... time passes, the number of victorious reports about "successful tests" is growing,
    but there isn’t any combat copy taken into service ...


    The most loafer is coming! Under the sweet babble of mandolin.
    After all, it is necessary to nourish your legend about superweapons with something.
    That Lockheed Martin, that Rheinmetall - professionals with experience in this matter.
    Some invisible aircraft are worth something.
  26. Ak 12
    Ak 12 April 23 2013 16: 25
    +1
    There is a solution how to protect equipment from this laser. We wrap everything with Falga. wassat
  27. Perchik
    Perchik April 23 2013 16: 32
    -1
    Well done Americans, I hope they have enough engineering groundwork to bring to mind this laser system!
    This is the most interesting and promising direction in close defense systems in my opinion.
    1. Containers
      Containers April 23 2013 23: 24
      +1
      This is a very promising direction in terms of the direction of movement of the saw.
  28. Corporal
    Corporal April 23 2013 17: 15
    +1
    cover the rocket with chrome, make it rotate in flight and a mustache. Laser, IMHO, "PR weapon"
    1. Check
      Check April 23 2013 17: 33
      0
      to the point)) it’s like during the Korean war, when the Americans came up with a rangefinder and ours in return came up with a trap for this rangefinder.
      they spend huge grandmothers to invent something and we’ll just figure out how to get around this
  29. zavesa01
    zavesa01 April 23 2013 17: 48
    +3
    On ships, the USVZ system and smoke screen. The problems are immeasurable with the source of energy. If there was a source the size of a pack of cigarettes issuing megawat toda yes. But if my grandmother had x .. she would be a grandfather. So, Nehai.
    1. smprofi
      smprofi April 23 2013 17: 55
      +1
      here in the photo you can see what size the generator was used to test the prodigy

  30. carver
    carver April 23 2013 19: 23
    -3
    If I were Pu, I would neigh like a thread at the next foreign gathering, they say the visibility of "invisible" is not necessary to prove, and the lasers are still too early to smear lasers, let them throw some more dough there.
  31. Naval
    Naval April 23 2013 19: 32
    0
    The main thing is not to let yourself be drawn into a new arms race. Comparison with "asymmetric", in other words "cheap but cheerful"
  32. Know-nothing
    Know-nothing April 23 2013 19: 35
    0
    The most obvious and useful application is as a means of air defense of close combat, an addition to the Phalanx.
  33. era1979
    era1979 April 23 2013 22: 12
    0
    buddies came
  34. Corporal
    Corporal April 23 2013 22: 15
    0
    No. One application is, without the bulldozer: Blind civil aviation pilots.
  35. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa April 23 2013 22: 26
    +2
    Last year (or the year before last?), With great fanfare, successful tests were announced in the USA of a Boeing-747 anti-ballistic laser aircraft. However, a quarter of a century earlier in the USSR, an aircraft with a continuous combat laser was successfully tested. He intended to
    installation on the spacecraft. But an already proven laser should be based in space. The choice fell on the 1 MW laser system (2-2,5 times more powerful than the ultimate power of the Americans), created by one of the branches of the Institute of Atomic Energy named after I.V. Kurchatova. This carbon dioxide gasdynamic laser was developed for installation on IL-76 aircraft. By 1983, he had already passed flight tests.
    To power the laser and related equipment, two AI-24ВТ turbogenerators with a capacity of 2,1 MW were installed on the sides of the aircraft in the bow. Instead of a standard weather radar, a huge bulb-shaped fairing was installed on the nose on a special adapter, to which a smaller oblong fairing was attached to the bottom. It housed the antenna of the aiming system, which spun in all directions, catching the target.
    It was originally decided placement laser gun: so as not to spoil the aerodynamics of the aircraft with another fairing, the gun was made retractable. The top of the fuselage between the wing and the keel was cut out and replaced with huge flaps consisting of several segments. They cleaned the inside of the fuselage, and then a turret with a cannon climbed up. Behind the wing there were fairings protruding beyond the fuselage contour with a profile similar to that of the wing. The cargo ramp was preserved, but the doors of the cargo hatch were removed and the hatch was sewn up with metal. The aviation version of the megawatt laser went into the series like the A-60.

    Today, According to an unnamed source in the Russian Ministry of Defense, work on the A-60 project, among the few Russian military promising projects, receives full funding from the state armament program.

    About the price in 1 dollars. This is the price of the chemicals needed for the 1 laser shot.
    1. Kaa
      Kaa April 24 2013 01: 04
      0
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      A-60 works, among the few Russian military promising projects, receive full funding from the state armament program.

      Quote: jjj
      In general, we promised the Americans, in the event of their next attempts by the SDI, to put a car of nails into orbit

      Quote: smprofi
      no need to increase the cost and labor for an asymmetric answer!
      "You must Fedya, you must!" - “Russia, in contrast to the United States, continues to develop aircraft-based anti-aircraft and anti-missile laser weapons. This was announced by the general director of the Almaz-Antey concern Vladislav Menshikov. Experiments with laser weapons were carried out in the USSR. Air defense lasers were developed as part of the Omega program. According to unofficial information, the targets were hit at an altitude of up to 40 kilometers. Weapons based on new physical principles, of course, are promising, but one must understand that the volume of research and development work will be great, notes the editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko: “This is a very costly direction of weapons development from a financial point of view and military equipment. Obviously, in the next 30-40 years, anti-aircraft guided missiles will be the main means of destroying both air and ballistic targets. In the future, combat laser systems of various types of basing will be developed to repel attacks from the aerospace sphere. " http://rus.ruvr.ru/2012_05_13/74575085/Гриф секретности наложен и на российские разработки в этом направлении. So, in particular, several years ago, the MLTK-50 metal cutting complex, which is designed for cutting thick-walled pipes at a distance of up to 1 kilometer, was presented to the general public. The next development of the Salyut Design Bureau was to be the Skif-Stilet device. The prefix "Stiletto" appeared in the name because they were going to install the on-board special complex (BSK) 1K11 "Stiletto" developed at NPO Astrophysics. Ground "Stiletto" was intended to disable sights and sensors of optical devices. Under conditions of cosmic vacuum, the radius of action of the rays could be significantly increased. In Russia, "as in the whole world, work is underway on a combat laser." . Formally, the "Stiletto" is still in service with the Russian army. Some experts believe that during the parade on May 9, 2005, Russia demonstrated laser guns, and not “prototypes”, but serial cars. Six combat vehicles with the removed “combat units” and “terminal devices” stood on both sides of Red Square. According to experts, these were the very “laser cannons”. It became known that Russia was developing a modern airborne combat laser in August 2009, when this was announced by Yuri Zaitsev, the current academic adviser to the Academy of Engineering Sciences of the Russian Federation . In particular, he said that in the weapons program, which was adopted and approved by the Scientific and Technical Council of the military-industrial complex, there are sections that suggest the development of a completely new type of LASER WEAPON. And not so long ago it became known about the creation of a new laser combat system based on the A-60 aircraft, which is designed to blind the enemy's optoelectronic intelligence systems. The real purpose of the laser system is unknown, but it must be recognized that this is a very real use of laser weapons.
    2. Know-nothing
      Know-nothing April 24 2013 07: 39
      -1
      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      Last year (or the year before last?), With great fanfare, successful tests were announced in the USA of a Boeing-747 anti-ballistic laser aircraft. However, a quarter of a century earlier in the USSR, an aircraft with a continuous combat laser was successfully tested.

      The Americans managed to bring down a ballistic missile, and not just put the installation on the plane.

      Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
      About the price in 1 dollars. This is the price of the chemicals needed for the 1 laser shot.

      It uses a solid state laser, not a chemical one.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 24 2013 07: 54
        +2
        Quote: Dunno
        The Americans managed to bring down a ballistic missile, and not just put the installation on the plane.

        Then it’s strange that the plane itself, along with the laser, was put into the hangar for eternal storage, and the financing and the program itself were closed wink
        1. Know-nothing
          Know-nothing April 24 2013 18: 46
          0
          http://lenta.ru/news/2010/02/24/laser/
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa April 24 2013 22: 06
        +2
        Quote: Dunno
        The Americans managed to bring down a ballistic missile, and not just put the installation on the plane.

        By my post, I just wanted to say that when the amers were just pushing, we already had a DEEPABLE combat laser gun with a power of 1 MW.
        I know the fact of the destruction of ICBMs by the experimental YAL-1A for 1 billion dollars. converted from the "Boeing-747 - 400F", maybe it impressed you, but the amerovskih specialists - no.
        Verbatim:
        But officials of the Missile Defense Agency are much calmer and more modest in their assessments. Boeing Corporation and MDA do not give any information other than the fact of the experiment itself. There is not a word about speeds and distances, target sizes and weather conditions. It is not even known from which “mobile platform” a rocket with a liquid engine was launched — whether it was a surface ship or a submarine. Considering that US rocket builders prefer solid-fuel engines, it can be assumed that a demonstration target with a liquid-propellant rocket engine was built specifically for testing - low-speed, thin-walled, with a light-absorbing coating.
        The dark time for the experiment was chosen not only to make an obscure video, similar to a cartoon, and post it on the Internet. The thick red beam, moving 30 seconds on the screen, raises a lot of questions, but does not give a single answer. First of all: no rays are visible in clean air. If it glows with dust and water vapor, then this is a clear demonstration of the loss of energy of the laser beam. In the darkness above the ocean, the concentration of water vapor and air turbulence are lower in the night cool. In addition, there is no infrared background, that is, the sensors of the aircraft easily detect the torch of a rocket engine, and there is no need to filter out interference.
        Judging by the video, the aircraft and the target missile clearly moved in parallel courses at approximately the same speed. The distance between them was unlikely to be kilometers, most likely tens of meters. It is known that the laser operates in a pulsed mode. Each “shot” can last 3 – 5 seconds. How many of these “shots” were fired during the experiment, which lasted no more than two minutes? Such questions can be asked more than a dozen. But to answer them means to sign the helplessness of the laser system. This is the biggest secret that can be hidden behind the experiment. Because specialists can easily calculate all the physical data themselves. This is just not a secret, a secret - technologies for achieving results. But so far, the designers of the combat laser have faced insoluble problems.
        Take a word: WE STILL MORE! With 2010 we are restoring the testing ground ... and not scientific developments that have been ongoing. The topic is closed. Es ware alles. Allso genug!
  36. piksel
    piksel April 23 2013 22: 51
    0
    The Russian Federation is the main supplier of hydrocarbons in the world market, which means that, if desired, our countries can become an energy superpower,

    If Primakov really said that, then he must have tortured him with insanity. More stupidity I have not heard !!! belay
  37. Phoenix-D
    Phoenix-D April 23 2013 23: 22
    0
    Amers have nowhere to put money - to protect missiles flying on an abusive ship from laser study, they are enough
    1. Coat with chrome.
    2. Make it spin in flight.
    3. Cover with a layer of heat-resistant substance such as the "Buran" spacecraft insulation, which can withstand temperatures of several thousand degrees.
  38. jjj
    jjj April 24 2013 00: 16
    +1
    If not laughing. There is one solution to all problems. Nuclear mini-explosion, in which there is no large shock wave, light radiation and radioactive contamination. Our nuclear scientists gave it the name "zilch effect". So, with this explosion, all electronics are damaged. The war ends immediately. True, the T-34 tank is not afraid. He has a diesel fuel pump. The Kalashnikov assault rifle will also fire. The RPG won't miss. In general, we promised the Americans in case of their next SDI attempts to put a carriage of nails into orbit.
    1. smprofi
      smprofi April 24 2013 00: 37
      0
      Quote: jjj
      launch a car of nails into orbit

      in the original source, Velikhov had gravel
      no need to increase the cost and labor for an asymmetric answer!
    2. mamba
      mamba April 24 2013 23: 04
      0
      Quote: jjj
      Our nuclear scientists gave it the name "zilch effect". So, with this explosion, all electronics are damaged. The war ends immediately.

      This is called an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), which is a damaging factor for nuclear weapons, as well as any other sources of EMP such as lightning, special electromagnetic weapons, short circuits in high-power electrical equipment, or a nearby supernova flash, etc. The striking effect of EMR is due to the appearance of induced voltages and currents in various conductors. The action of EMP is manifested primarily in relation to electrical and electronic equipment. The most vulnerable lines of communication, signaling and control. In this case, a breakdown of insulation may occur, damage to transformers, damage to semiconductor devices, etc. The T-34 will also suffer. what
      Quote: jjj
      we promised the Americans, in the event of their next attempts by SOI, to put a car of nails into orbit

      No, a bunch of broken bricks. wink
  39. asbaev
    asbaev April 24 2013 00: 35
    0
    Chubais and Serdyukov shared their experience with them on how to privatize loot. It is necessary for them to open the secret of RUSNANO's work.
    1. smprofi
      smprofi April 24 2013 00: 44
      0
      Oh! Do you know how many different projects there were back in those days when Ryzhiy and Taburetkin were nobody and called them in any way (they went to school)?

      Helix (High Energy Laser Experimental)
      MTU (Mobile Test Unit)
      UNFT (Unified Navy Field Test Program, San Juan Capistrano, California)
      MAD (Mobile Army Demonstrator)
      LATEX (Laser Associe a une Tourelle Experimentale)
      MIRACL (Mid Infra-Red Advanced Chemical Laser)
      ALL (Airborned Laser Laboratory) - This predecessor of Airborne Laser (ABL)

      and this is not a complete list
  40. Kir
    Kir April 24 2013 02: 21
    0
    The world of trembling !!! Yeah, they were all right scared and began to stupidly create so as not to lag behind, once a number called SOI made someone very hard to control, it seems now Iran’s turn is coming?
    In general, there is a feeling that the breeder takes place where the authorities are not very soft, as it were, competent, incapable of creating a team of specialists. I’m more than sure that during the time of I.V. Stalin and People's Commissar L.P. Beria, they divorced from the SDI even if the adversaries had succeeded ......., then most likely the speed was over.
  41. family tree
    family tree April 24 2013 07: 39
    +1
    Wunderwaffe, Ananerbe, SOI, garden scarecrow, damn it, they can’t come up with anything new. Boring. No.
  42. cyclist
    cyclist April 24 2013 08: 32
    0
    But what about gas-dynamic lasers, it can be assumed that the Americans used new technologies to create solid-state lasers. Of particular interest is a mirror changing its curvature 670 times
  43. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy April 25 2013 00: 14
    0
    for me, so Americans are good marketers. Just maintain their image. The effectiveness of such systems can only be tested in combat conditions, and it seems that this is a bluff a la Nikita Khrushchev.