Afghan fuel truck

During the war in Afghanistan (1979-1989) the Soviet transport convoys with civilian and military cargoes were constantly attacked by the Mujahideen. For obvious reasons, the greatest losses were borne by tankers, without which all the actions of a limited contingent would simply have been paralyzed. In view of the combat experience, mainly negative, the leadership of the USSR Ministry of Defense set the task of the NII MO and the industry to develop and build special tankers with enhanced protection. However, later the special commission of the Ministry made conclusions not in favor of such funds. She proved that the number of tankers that were disabled was not that big. In addition, the Soviet military presence in Afghanistan gradually began to collapse. Full-scale work on armored vehicles for the delivery of fuel and lubricants was not started, only draft designs were developed.

The issue of creating armored tankers was returned to the first Chechen campaign of 1994-1996, when Russian troops began to suffer significant losses in various vehicles, including tankers. The Russian Defense Ministry decided to start developing armored tankers for the troops. The design of the machine was entrusted to the chief designer of the St. Petersburg Design Bureau of Special Engineering (KBSM) Panteleev A.V. While working on the topic, several projects appeared that differed significantly from each other. Completely unique designs of armored tankers were developed. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation as a result of consideration of the proposed project options, chose one. Under the alteration were allocated only outdated BMP-1. According to the documentation of KBSM, their conversion was carried out at the repair plant of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.

With the conversion of BMP during the conversion they removed the tower installation and armament, as well as other systems, the presence of which was not required on the tanker. Fuel tanks and other related equipment were installed in the case. As a result of the alteration, two experimental machines were manufactured. tankers assigned the designation BTZ-3.

The BTZ-3 tracked amphibious armored tanker is intended for transportation, refueling (gasoline, kerosene, diesel fuel) and oils of various vehicles in areas with difficult terrain and water barriers. The equipment of the tanker consists of: special tanks (for fuel - 3000, for oils - 100 kg); main pumping unit; backup pump unit; fueling system; transfer system with flow rates from 150 liters per minute (9-meter transfer hose, transfer valve PK-32); filtering installation; fire extinguishing systems; radio stations.

The tanker BTZ-3 is capable of performing the following operations: closed (under pressure) refueling; open fueling; filling containers with external pumping means or their pump from foreign tanks; emptying the tanks with external or own pumps; issuing fuel in cans or cans. The transfer time of the car between marching and martial positions and back is no more than 3 minutes. BTZ-3 is capable of operating at temperatures of -30 .. + 30 ° C.

One copy of the BTZ-3 tanker was tested at test sites, the second was sent to Chechnya, where it was tested in combat conditions. Both cars showed themselves well and were ready for mass production.

Main tactical and technical characteristics:
Base - tracked chassis BMP-1;
Maximum speed - 65 km / h;
Speed ​​afloat - not less than 7 km / h;
The transition time from traveling to combat and back - no more than 7 minutes;
Capacity of fuel tanks - 3000 l;
The volume of transported oils - 100 kg;
Dispensing system consumption - no less than 150 l / min;
Nominal filtration of fuel is not less than 20 microns;
The distributing crane - RK-32;
The length of the distributing sleeve - 9 m;
Accuracy of fuel issued accounting is no more than 0,5%;
Types of fuel for refueling - gasoline, kerosene, D / T;
Power supply units - from the mains;
Type of current, voltage - constant, 27B;
The operating temperature range is from -30 to + 30;
Obstacle obstacles:
- bias - 30 hail;
- pit width - 2,5 m;
- wall height - 0,7 m;
- The maximum angle of entry / exit from the water - 25 hail;
Dimensions:
- length - 6380 mm;
- width - 2940 mm;
- height - mm 1700;
Crew - 2 person.

Comments

[svp67]

The article is interesting. To the author "+".
By the design of this fuel tanker, we can say that the idea is interesting, the only thing missing is a "tower layout", so that this vehicle looks little different from a conventional BMP, I think that such a solution would contribute to the greater survival of this vehicle in columns .. ...

[shurup]

I agree. Generally should not be different.
I thought about soft tanks and non-stationary pumping equipment, which allows you to turn any tilt truck into a fuel tanker larger than the BMP tank.
The presented option is more suitable for refueling on the battlefield.

[warm]

Quote: shurup

The presented option is more suitable for refueling on the battlefield.

"on the battlefield" not a single normal commander, even in a nightmare, will not refuel cars;)

[shurup]

Normal will not, but the "abnormal" manages to feed the drug. What is the difference between a normal manager and an effective one? There are also breaks in the boxing ring, but there are fights without rules, where the highest stakes are among spectators, but not participants.

[Mikhado]

Quote: svp67

The article is interesting. To the author "+".
By the design of this fuel tanker, we can say that the idea is interesting, the only thing missing is a "tower layout", so that this vehicle looks little different from a conventional BMP, I think that such a solution would contribute to the greater survival of this vehicle in columns .. ...

The layout of the tower can even be made rotating for a complete simulation.
In general, for local conflicts, the idea is super, I would add: a lot of fuel cells isolated from each other; supercharging with cooled exhaust gases; reliable protection of the crew from fire - it is clearly very uncomfortable to ride in such a lighter.

[bazilio]

Quote: svp67

the only thing missing on it is the "tower layout", so that this vehicle looks little different from a conventional BMP, I think that such a solution would contribute to the greater survival of this vehicle in columns.

It depends on the situation - if only BMPs go in the column, the car without a tower will cause suspicions. on the other hand, if there are different equipment in the convoy, then it’s quite logical to destroy tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles first, all that shoots, and then deliver fuel trucks and other equipment. But all according to the situation

[warm]

Quote: bazilio

on the other hand, if there are different equipment in the convoy, then it’s quite logical to destroy tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles first, all that shoots, and then deliver fuel trucks and other equipment. But all according to the situation

I wonder why the militants do the opposite in 99% - a couple of drugs trucks, a fuel truck - and legs in arms?

[bazilio]

Quote: iliq

I wonder why the militants do the opposite in 99% - a couple of drugs trucks, a fuel truck - and legs in arms?

And if there is a convoy, for example, 2 BMPs in the head and tail, in the middle 1 truck and then another 1 BMP (which is a fuel truck with a tower). Will there be a suspicion that with this bmp in the middle, something is not clean?

[warm]

a convoy consisting of 4 vehicles and 30 men pull them out with a bang with a little preparation for an ambush ...

[Black Colonel]

About the tower - removed from the tongue. +

[warm]

and what's the point of this wunderwaffle?
instead of MRAPs and armored trucks for drugs, they came up with body armor and bricks in the doors, sand in the tanks of BMPs, riding "on horseback", ZSU in the back of a truck ...
but to make a tanker truck out of an infantry fighting vehicle, with its "protection" not protecting against militants' weapons (yeah, and a break in RPG armor, and armor-piercing bullets for AK, and DShK, KPV, NSV - all this was available to the militants, in Afghanistan, in Chechnya ), with 3 tons of fuel ... not even funny!
since then more than 30 have already passed, it seems like armored cars have recently begun to do - but they have not reached the fuel truck.

[bazilio]

Quote: iliq

instead of MRAPs and armored trucks for drugs, they came up with body armor and bricks in the doors, sand in the tanks of BMPs, riding "on horseback", ZSU in the back of a truck ...

all this is the result of the fact that the same BMPs were imprisoned for a different type of military operations, for a large-scale war on a European military theater, and not for a local conflict in a mountainous area.

Quote: iliq

but to make a tanker truck out of an infantry fighting vehicle, with its "protection" not protecting against militants' weapons (yeah, and a break in RPG armor, and armor-piercing bullets for AK, and DShK, KPV, NSV - all this was available to the militants, in Afghanistan, in Chechnya ), with 3 tons of fuel ... not even funny!

even light armor.

Quote: iliq

since then more than 30 have already passed, it seems like armored cars have recently begun to do - but they have not reached the fuel truck.

as in other countries, the fuel truck is supposed to be used in the cleaned-up control zone, although you are right, armored fuel trucks and vehicles are needed

[warm]

Quote: bazilio

as in other countries, the fuel truck is supposed to be used in the cleaned-up control zone, although you are right, armored fuel trucks and vehicles are needed

why, as soon as the NATO forces encountered a guerrilla war, for several years they equipped the army with the necessary armored cars? yes, literally in 2 years, there have already been thousands of armored vehicles in Iraq locked up under the guerrilla war.
and all sorts of gratings against RPGs? where in the Republic of Armenia at least a semblance of all this wealth !? But already 30 years have passed, 3 !!! war, and things are still there! or rather, everything was as if it weren’t.

[bazilio]

Quote: iliq

why, as soon as the NATO forces encountered a guerrilla war, for several years they equipped the army with the necessary armored cars? yes, literally in 2 years, there have already been thousands of armored vehicles in Iraq locked up under the guerrilla war.

Well, armored cars and armored trucks are two different things. I agree to the account of armored vehicles for drugs.

Quote: iliq

and things are still there! or rather, everything was as if it weren’t.

here you are unfortunately right

[warm]

Quote: bazilio

Well, armored cars and an armored fuel carrier are two different things.

what are different? simultaneously with armored cars for drugs (on the basis of both light and heavy trucks) armored trucks also went. and what to put on the truck - an armored kung or a tank - absolutely on the drum.

[killganoff]

If the leadership was interested in the safety of the lives of its citizens, they would do it. What is created for the safe transportation of personnel? How much did the quality of the Navy's Search and Rescue Forces improve after the tragedy with the Kursk? ... But the internal troops are not forgotten in terms of equipping them with special means and equipment to deal with the dissatisfied.

[bairat]

The TTX does not say anything about armor, but the ability to swim is mentioned, which automatically says about its minimum possible thickness. It is incomprehensible to me that this manic desire to make armored vehicles swim, to the detriment of the reservation, does this often come in handy?

[_KM_]

It seems like there was some recent project to create a tanker-conveyor of ammunition based on control vehicles (MT-LB).

[Gorko]

This is how the war in Afghanistan led to the birth of such interesting machines.
Yes, and I would like to add that our troops in Afghanistan fought much more professionally and less cynically !!!

[bask]

Quote: GORKO

This is how the war in Afghanistan led to the birth of such interesting machines.
Yes, and I would like to add that our troops in Afghanistan fought much more professionally and less cynically

Good koment +.
But it could be done, and made much easier. A 40-foot container. A column of their identical containers. What kind of fuel? What’s the real solution.
But the story can not be rewritten, then in Afghanistan did the BMP tanker.
Now in the modern Russian army, all military transportation, only containerized.
Russian anti-shipable Club-K complex, as an example of camouflage carried.

[not good]

A competent proposal, the container can be booked from the inside and all the necessary systems can be mounted, and the tractor can be booked.

[Mister X]

And it probably stinks inside with fuel - be healthy!
It is especially nice to ride in it on a hot summer day.
Enhanced ventilation should be provided.

[Mister X]

Quote: bask

But it could be done, and made much simpler: 40-foot container.

This is an army, not a seaport. Where do the ten containers come from?

Quote: bask

Column of their identical containers.

Already imagined a dozen trucks that are traveling in the Caucasus.
And if one topples over?

[warm]

Quote: Mister X

This is an army, not a seaport. Where do the ten containers come from?

poor merikos and do not know!

Quote: Mister X

Already imagined a dozen trucks that are traveling in the Caucasus.

so they’ve been driving for decades ... and not tens, but thousands;)

[bask]

Quote: Mister X

it’s an army, not a seaport. Where do the ten containers come from?

Is the train suitable? For a long time transported, containers. The most optimal and cheap transportation-delivery of goods ... for any purpose.

[Mister X]

Quote: bask

Is the train suitable?

It will do.
But as it was sung in the song, "that the train will pass only where the path is paved"

But I fantasized about the Caucasus and other hot spots.
Suppose the fuel was delivered by rail to station "X".
And how to separate it in parts?

The author writes:

BTZ-3 tracked floating armored tanker is intended
for transportation, fueling (gasoline, kerosene, diesel fuel)
and oils of various techniques in areas with difficult terrain and water barriers.

Here you are for escort and protection of railway tanks

and more

Photo taken from the article "The use of armored trains in Chechnya"
Article address: http://topwar.ru/24136-ispolzovanie-bronepoezdov-v-chechne.html

[warm]

Quote: Mister X

But I fantasized about the Caucasus and other hot spots.
Suppose the fuel was delivered by rail to station "X".
And how to separate it in parts?

do not pass off poverty and stupidity as something good.
and in Afghanistan, and in Chechnya, and in Georgia, and in Dagestan, goods were delivered, delivered by wagons for decades.

Quote: Mister X

Here you are for escort and protection of railway tanks

so if you read the article, it says that they accompanied both the passenger and freight trains. which are hundreds of times more than these crafts for an armored train.

[Mister X]

Quote: iliq

than these crafts under the armored train.

So these "special trains" did not appear from a good life.
As the saying goes, "Need for invention is cunning."
And sending trains without any accompaniment, at least stupidity,
if not negligence and crime.

[warm]

Quote: Mister X

So these "special trains" did not appear from a good life.

these trains came from normal life. running on a rake for 3 decades (starting with Afghanistan) and 4 wars - the result is the same.

Quote: Mister X

As the saying goes, "Need for invention is cunning."

when those who receive money for this and do not make a fuck ...

[Jrvin]

I recently saw how new tankers (fuel trucks) were transported on the railway for the military, so here they have arcs for installing the tent above the tank, that is, when installing the tent, the truck (based on the URAL) cannot be distinguished from the usual onboard truck, but it gives its exhaust pipe is installed in front and not in the middle as with conventional onboard counterparts.

[andr327]

Adopting the experience of the Second World War: at the end of 41 years, almost all fuel tanks were disguised as ordinary heaters protection from German aircraft and the inability to visually control the movement of trains with fuel.