Military Review

The armed forces of Syria on the eve and during the uprising in the republic (2011 — 2013)

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It is believed that during the time elapsed since March 2011, when Syria was swept by a wave of protests, the situation moved from the category of mass unrest consistently to the category of unrest, armed protests, insurgent and guerrilla actions; finally, now both the participants in the events and the observers recognize that a civil war is unfolding in Syria. Accordingly, the dynamics of the country's armed forces, as well as the motivation and self-awareness of the soldiers, officers and the leadership of the army, changed. We publish the full text of the material prepared for the release of the journal However, in which the article was published in an abbreviated form (Loyalists vs. Rebels - However, 01.04.2013).


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The armed forces occupy a special place in the life of Syria, being, along with the Arab Socialist Renaissance Party (PASV, Baath), one of the pillars of the ruling regime. Virtually all changes of power in Syria, until Hafez Assad came to power, took the form of military coups, and it was such a coup that brought power to the city in 1963 PASV. The "Baathist" character of the army is underlined by the existence in it of 1971 of the extensive structure of the PASV political bodies headed by political workers, created after the Soviet model.

By the time the organized armed insurgency began in Syria (approximately January 2012), the strength of the armed forces of the Syrian Arab Republic, according to the most authoritative Western sources, was over 294 thousand people. Of these, more than 200 thousands were in the ground forces, 90 thousands - in the Air Force and Air Defense (including 54 thousands in the command of the air defense), and 3200 and - as part of the small Navy of the country.

Picking is carried out mainly on conscription for a period of up to 24-30 months, and from March 2011 on 18 months. The armed forces have a significant number of reservists, the number of which was estimated to 352 thousand people, of which up to 280 thousand - in the ground forces.

With the 1956, the Syrian military system was built with the dominant influence of the experience of Soviet military construction, with the pressure of Soviet doctrines and methods of organization and combat use, and the armed forces themselves are equipped almost exclusively with Soviet-made equipment and weapons. In essence, the Syrian armed forces remained a “fragment” of the Soviet military organization of the most conservative persuasion, retaining many of its characteristic features (such as a massive mobilization army requiring additional deployment and mobilization for full-scale hostilities). Given the peculiarities of the Arab mentality, the general underdevelopment of the country and the lack of resources, many of the traditional defects of this Soviet military system, manifested in the USSR, in modern Syrian conditions are critical and are one of the causes of erosion of the armed forces of the SAR during the civil war.

The composition and strength of the sun SAR

The composition of the ground forces with a peacetime strength of more than 200 thousand people included the control of three army corps, three mechanized divisions, seven armored divisions, a special forces division (special forces, special forces), the Republican Guard armored division, four separate infantry brigades, two separate anti-tank brigades, two separate separate artillery brigades, separate tank regiment, 10 artillery regiments, artillery regiment of the Republican Guard, 10 special purpose regiments, three operational tactical missile brigades, border guard brigades.

In addition, there were reserve components, including a reserve armored division and up to 30 separate reserve infantry regiments (on the basis of which, in wartime, the deployment of two motorized infantry divisions and a significant number of separate infantry brigades were assumed).

The organization of army divisions approximately corresponded to the organization of the divisions of the Soviet Army 1970-1980-s, with the only difference that divisional regiments are called brigades in Syria. Each armored division includes three tank brigades, one mechanized brigade and one artillery regiment. In each mechanized division there are two tank brigades, two mechanized brigades, one artillery regiment.

For many years, the main goal of Syrian ground forces was to defend the direction of the Golan Heights - Damascus in the event of an Israeli attack. The main ground forces grouping (in particular, all 12 regular divisions) was concentrated in the southern part of the country in the areas immediately adjacent to the cease-fire line with Israel. After concluding an armistice agreement with Israel dated May 1974, Syria may have soldiers and officers in 0-10 km from the cease-fire line to 6000, 75 tanks and 36 guns in caliber to 122 mm inclusive. In the 10-20 zone, there are no restrictions on the number of personnel, and as for equipment, there can be up to 450 tanks and 163 artillery pieces. Between the Golan Heights and Damascus, the Syrians built three lines of defense (the first in 10 km from the ceasefire line), including field and long-term fortifications, minefields and impregnated tanks and guns, a large number of anti-tank systems. At the same time, already from 2011, the army was forced first to take part in suppressing riots and fighting banditry, and from January 2012 to engage in intense clashes with guerrilla guerrillas.

Air force

The Syrian Air Force and Air Defense Command includes the Air Force itself and Air Defense Command. The organization of the Air Force is a kind of “mix” of the Soviet and British system. Air Force Command has two aviation divisions (fighter and fighter-bomber) and five separate aviation brigades (transport, electronic warfare and two helicopter). The main part is the air base (23), the command of which is subordinated to the air squadrons (which can be reduced to air brigades). In total, at the beginning of 2012, the Syrian Air Force identified 46 squadrons (20 fighter, seven fighter-bomber, one electronic warfare, four transport, 13 helicopter and one naval helicopter) and five training air groups (11 squadrons). Training of personnel is carried out at the Air Force Academy.

Judging by the available Western data, on paper, the number of Syrian air forces is still superior to aviation groups of neighboring states, including Israel and Egypt. However, the overwhelming majority of the Syrian aviation fleet is outdated and is not able to withstand the air forces of potential enemies. The most modern Syrian aircraft (up to hundreds of MiG-29 and Su-24) were released in 1980-s. and since then have not been upgraded. More than 30 MiG-25 fighters launched in the 1970-ies, are currently probably not sky-ready. A significant part of the aircraft fleet still consists of MiG-21МФ / bis fighters of early 1970-s, the squadrons of which were defeated during their last collision with the Israeli Air Force in 1982. Several important programs for the purchase of new combat aircraft and the modernization of old with the participation of Russia were frozen or canceled.

In addition to the general obsolescence of the air fleet, there is a negative underfunding of the armed forces on the combat readiness of the country's air force, resulting in a lack of spare parts and fuel. According to Western estimates, the average flying time of fighter aviation pilots is 20-25 hours per year, which is not enough to maintain flight and combat qualifications. Proof of the low combat capability of the Syrian air force is the constant invasion of the Israeli Air Force aircraft into the airspace of the country, including the famous demonstrative flyby over the palace of President Al-Assad. The culmination was the operation "Orchard", conducted in 2007, during which Israeli F-15I and F-16I fighters destroyed a nuclear reactor in Deir ez-Zor in eastern Syria, without meeting any resistance from Syrian aviation.

It should be noted that since the arrival of the Ba'ath Party in 1963, the Syrian air force has been central to the structure of the Syrian government. Air Force officers under the leadership of Hafez Asad, led the coup that brought the Ba'ath Party to power. Coming from the Air Force, Assad relied on his former colleagues, who formed the backbone of the service. Since then, the Air Force began to play a special role in the life of the country. Air Force Intelligence (the Air Force Intelligence Directorate) is traditionally one of the leading intelligence services in Syria, and in the early stages of the Syrian uprising coordinated actions on land against the opposition forces. From 2009, the Air Force Prospector was headed by Major General Jamil Hassan, by alavite by religion, who was part of Bashar al-Assad’s inner circle. At the end of April 2011, HRV officers used tear gas and live ammunition to disperse crowds of demonstrators who took to the streets in Damascus and other cities after midday prayers. In May, 2011, the European Union, announced it was banning travel to Europe and freezing the assets of General Hassan for participating in repression against the civilian population. In August, 2012, Mr. Hassan, was killed by militants of the Free Syrian Army.

As the conflict escalated, the role of the Air Force began to grow. The main objective of aviation was to assist in the transfer of troops and air strikes against the positions of the rebels, some of whom were qualified by the opposition and the Western media as massacres of civilians. As the political situation worsened, the Air Force military personnel began to be drawn into the implementation of a growing number of ethically controversial tasks, and the pressure on the Air Force increased.

Defense

The Air Defense Command is organized in the Soviet centralized pattern. The territory of Syria is divided into the North and South zones of air defense. To control the forces and means of air defense there are three automated command posts.

The basis of the Syrian air defense forces are anti-aircraft missile units, combined in 25 brigades and two separate regiments. From 25, the 11 anti-aircraft missile brigades are mixed on C-75 and C-125M complexes, 11 brigades are equipped with self-propelled 2K12 "Kvadrat" and "Buk-M2E" air defense missile systems, and three brigades with self-propelled short-range air defense systems ZNG9N.XN.X. (and, possibly, receive the PIR-C33 ZRPK). Both anti-aircraft missile regiment armed with long-range air defense systems C-1VE. Brigades are partly separate, and partly merged into two air defense divisions (200 and 24), subordinate to the commands of the South and North air defense zones. Officers for air defense forces are trained at the Air Defense College.

Due to the complete obsolescence of the overwhelming share of the material part of fire weapons, as well as insufficient training of personnel, the real combat potential of Syria’s air defense is now very low and in fact the Syrian air defense forces are unable to effectively protect the country’s territory from the actions of the modern enemy air forces. This was shown by repeated provocative overflights by Israeli aircraft of the Syrian territory, including Damascus, as well as the unpunished destruction of the Syrian nuclear facility by the Israeli air forces in 2007. The situation began to change from 2010 to the best for the Syrians when the Buk-M2 air defense system began to change. and ZRPK "Pantsir-C1", upgraded the air defense system C-125M, MANPADS "Igla-S". However, the number of new systems is clearly not enough, with the bulk of Syria’s air defense systems still remaining outdated and increasingly losing combat significance.

Navy

Syrian semi-naval forces retain mainly Soviet hardware 1960-1970's. and have extremely low potential. In recent years, the development of the Navy has been influenced by the Iranian doctrines of the “small war”, which resulted in the acquisition of small combat boats built by Iran and the DPRK. In fact, the main potential of the Navy is now the coastal defense brigade, which has received two divisions of the newest Russian supersonic anti-ship missile systems, Bastion-P, Iranian coastal anti-ship missile systems, and the Redut and Rubezh Soviet coastal missile systems.

Weapon mass destruction

Israeli sources believe that Syria is the owner of the largest arsenal of chemical weapons in the Middle East, believing that the Syrians are trying to give a kind of "answer" to the Israeli nuclear potential.

For the first time, the Syrian authorities officially recognized the presence in the country of chemical and biological weapons 23 July 2012.

The presence of chemical weapons is considered a deterrent against Israel, and is currently against possible aggression by Western countries. According to CIA estimates, Syria is able to produce sarin, herd, VX and mustard in the amount of up to several hundred tons per year, and has 5 factories for the production of toxic substances (in Safira, Hama, Homs, Lattakia and Palmyra). There are estimates by the Center for Strategic and International Studies on 2000 that the stocks of chemical weapons in Syria are up to 500 — 1000 t, among which are sarin, VX, and blister agents.

26 July 2007 an explosion occurred in a weapons depot near Aleppo, which killed at least 15 Syrians. The Syrian authorities said that the explosion was accidental and not related to chemical weapons, while the American magazine Jane's Defense Weekly suggested that the explosion occurred when Syrian soldiers tried to equip the R-17 rocket equipped with mustard gas.

The main means of delivering chemical weapons are the P-17 (Scud), Luna-M and Tochka (SS-21) operational tactical missile systems. Three missile brigades have 54 launchers and, presumably, up to 1 thousands of missiles.

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The country's military industry is underdeveloped. It is mainly represented by enterprises for the production of ammunition and repair of military equipment, built in 1970-1980-s. with the help of the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp. This is due to the fact that previously all the weapons Syria received in abundance from the USSR.

Organization, goals and objectives

The supreme commander of the Syrian army is President Assad. He heads the country's highest military-political body - the National Security Council (SNB), which includes the ministers of defense and interior affairs, and heads of special services. If necessary, other members of the government and military leaders take part in meetings of the Council. The National Security Council develops the main directions of military policy and coordinates the activities of organizations and institutions related to the country's defense.

The military command system is extremely centralized and completely subordinated to the power of Assad. It is believed that the army is controlled very tightly, it is customary to execute orders "from and to". This has its pros and cons - well, this is useful if the enemy deprives some of the communications and control, but also leads to inertia and lack of flexibility in solving the tasks at hand.

The Secretary of Defense and Deputy Supreme Commander since July 2012 has been General Fahed Jassem Al-Freij.

Military planning and direct troop control are carried out by the General Staff. The Chief of the General Staff is the First Deputy Minister of Defense and the Commander of the Ground Forces. Since July 2012, this post has been occupied by Lieutenant General Ali Abdullah Ayub.

Previous Defense Minister Daoud Rajih and Chief of the General Staff Assef Shaukat were killed in the July 18 act of terrorism 2012.

The territory of the SAR is divided into seven military districts - coastal, northern, southern, eastern, western, south-western, central, capital.

The ground forces are grouped into three army corps; The main ones are 1 and 2, which are on the line of contact with Israel, and 3 is the auxiliary backup and was responsible for the maritime, Turkish and Iraqi directions. The 1 Army Corps included 5, 6, 8 and 9-I armored divisions and 7-I mechanized division. The 2 Army Corps included 1, 3, 11-I armored and 4 and 10-I mechanized divisions. In each of the buildings there are also separate parts - artillery regiments and special purpose shelves.

According to known data, the main role in ensuring internal security during the Arab Spring is played by the 5-I armored division, as well as the 4-I mechanized division, which is considered to be the elite and especially dedicated to Assad. The armored division of the Republican Guard, which is the military “Life Guard” of the regime, retains essential significance.

It is believed that the Syrian army is committed to positional defense tactics, and the mobility and ability to rapidly build up forces in the main direction at the moment is not its strong point.

In addition, the border with Turkey and Iraq was covered mainly by units of the 3 Army Corps — loose, consisting of reserve and cropped units, the core of which was the collapsed 2 Armored Division. As early as December 2011, it became known that the Turkish side, with the support of NATO specialists, was preparing for a massive penetration into Syrian territory of militant groups, including those deployed to Turkey by military transport aviation of an alliance of fighters from Libya. Most likely, the Syrian government forces cannot seriously prevent this infiltration, especially as instructors from NATO countries are engaged in organizing intelligence and communications of the partisans.

The available information about the Syrian armed forces suggests that the greatest importance was attached to the preparation of a powerful positional defense in the Golan region and a somehow trained reserve - apparently so that the Israeli army in the event of war would be deeply defended by significantly exceeding its ATS army , faced a powerful protest from Israeli society and made concessions without defeat from Syria.

An integral part of the anti-Israeli strategy was plans to transfer part of the armed forces (special purpose divisions) to Lebanon to organize sabotage operations from the territory of that country. The defense of the Turkish border was of secondary importance, and the defense of the extended border with Iraq was almost neglected (except for 1991, when Syria took a limited part in Operation Desert Shield).

From a formal point of view (the number and quantity of weapons), the Syrian army could have been considered one of the most powerful in the region by 2011. However, the lack of funding, the poor technical condition of a large part of the equipment, the evasion of citizens from military service led to the fact that by the beginning of the uprising the army of the country turned out to be largely sky-ready.

In addition, part of the weapons was lost to the Syrian army during the fighting. Given that all information about the losses of the armed forces during the fighting is completely closed by censorship, it is not possible to accurately estimate the actual number of weapons systems in service.

The country's military doctrine did not meet the new realities either. Preparations for the conduct of a full-scale war with Israel required the presence of large formations and a mobilization deployment. However, the conduct of mobilization would lead to a massive appearance in the army of people disloyal to the regime, would be a de facto recognition of the civil war, and therefore the leadership of Syria did not dare to take this step.

It is worth noting that the solution of problems of internal security was the responsibility of the law enforcement agencies and civilian intelligence services of the country, the General Directorate of Security and the Political Security Directorate of Syria. However, it is obvious that the special services did not cope with the tasks of preventing the financing of the opposition, the supply of weapons and explosives from abroad and the infiltration of militants, and the suppression of resistance went beyond their capabilities. Therefore, the army was forced in a short time to reorient itself to the solution of anti-sabotage tasks, sweeping the area, filtering the population, conducting police and punitive operations.

Previously, the possibility of using the army against the political opposition was provided for in the Constitution of the country. According to the 11 article of the 1964 constitution, the army was supposed to defend the ideas of Ba'athism and the revolutionary gains of the Syrian people. The same article gave the authorities legal grounds to use the army not only against an external enemy, but also inside Syria against the enemies of the revolution. At the same time, according to Article 8 of the Constitution, the Party of Arab Socialist Renaissance had a monopoly on the implementation of the ideas of the revolution. For the ideological treatment of the personnel of the armed forces, they operated an extensive system of political bodies, under the leadership of the Political Directorate of the Armed Forces established in 1971. As part of the constitutional reform of 2012 by the current President Bashar Assad, the article on the party’s leading role was canceled and, accordingly, the clauses on the role of the army as a defender of the ruling party were canceled. The political administration was disbanded, and its employees mainly joined the special services.

Personnel

The recruitment and quality of personnel training is presumed to be significantly affected by the chronic underfunding of the army.

The Syrian army - the draft, the service life was up to 2005 g. 30 months, then 24 months, and in 2011 g. It was reduced to 18 months. Presumably, such a populist measure may indicate not very great confidence in the army.

It is believed that the training of conscripts is poorly placed due to the insufficient material resources of Syria, first of all, fuel and ammunition, mainly they were trained in maintaining positional defense and carrying out garrison service. The populist measure to further reduce the service life exacerbated the problems of unskilled servicemen. At the same time, with the start of hostilities, the discussion of the quality of the draft army and the need to move to a contractual basis in the press was practically prohibited.

There is no reliable information about the moral and volitional qualities of the conscription army of Syria, since the press is forbidden to be interested in this topic.

Prior to the uprising in Syria, an extensive system of basic military training for conscription youth in secondary schools and universities operated. The sergeants were trained in special schools. At the same time, part of the sergeant posts was recruited at the expense of university graduates who, after graduation, were required to serve in the army.

It is known, however, that military service was unpopular, they tried to avoid it at the slightest opportunity, since most families live poor and there are no extra workers. At the same time, 1953 has a practice of paying off military service, which is widely used by more or less wealthy Syrians. And due to the general relatively favorable demographic situation in the country, there was no significant shortage of armed forces before the start of the revolutionary events.

On the whole, on the eve of the events, young people, like all of society, were especially inclined to be frustrated due to the unlighted state of the economy and the lack of a modernization program or at least fatherly charisma in the younger Assad.

Most likely, the quality of training and the level of morale can vary from part to part. It is believed that there is a separation between senior and junior officers - the former are more likely to perceive their careers as “business”, the latter are annoyed by the lack of prospects and a demonstrative disregard on the part of the authorities.

All this is not new and very rooted, as evidenced by the pace of reforms begun in the early nineties and still continuing with varying success. The reform was initiated by Hafez Asad, whose goal was to achieve loyalty to the army of the younger Assad. The current president has continued reforms, aiming at modernizing the system, but the lack of financial resources and the rootedness of the “old guard” and its orders in the army greatly reduce the effectiveness of the reforms - it is possible that almost to zero.

The training of officers for the Armed Forces of Syria is carried out by two military academies: the Higher Military Academy in Damascus and the Military Technical Academy. H. Assad in Aleppo, as well as military colleges: infantry, tank, field artillery, military air, naval, air defense, communications, engineering, chemical, artillery weapons, electronic warfare, rear, political, military police. In addition, there is a female college for the training of female officers. However, with the beginning of the uprising, the training of officers was largely paralyzed.

The most prepared units are the Special Forces and the Republican Guard. Their functions, apparently, initially included not only a reflection of external aggression, but also the struggle against internal threats. This, in particular, is evidenced by reports of the constant transfer of the same parts throughout the country, from one focus of protest to another. At the same time, even the elite units are poorly equipped with modern means of communication, personal protection, navigation, electronic warfare, and electronic jamming of mine-blasting signals.

It seems that the need to fight whatever the rebels turned out to be unexpected for the Syrian military. In addition, they are not overseeing internal security issues, but special services, and if it came to the infiltration of “professional” militants from Libya, and even with the participation of Western instructors, it means that the “mukhabarat” (special services) launched the situation very much and hope for the army First, the last, and secondly - the weak.

The London Institute of International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) draws the following conclusions from the size of its staff. At the beginning of the conflict, the ground forces themselves accounted for about 200-220 thousand people, while the total strength of the SAR armed forces was about 300 thousand people. Every day, 50 — 100 people (ie, about 20 or even more than a thousand people for 2012) drop out during the battles; according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights - the only available, because the authorities do not voice losses the time of confrontation the armed forces of the SAR lost the dead 14,8 thousand people). A number of soldiers and commanders deserts, a number of them do not fulfill their duties, or even cooperate with the rebels. Calling the reservists does not solve the problem - someone evades, someone does not know how. Thus, it is unlikely that out of 200, thousands can be considered effective and efficient for more than 100 thousand. Of these hundreds, half of them do not directly participate in combat operations, but guard borders, depots, bases, convoys, and columns, and serves in patrols and at roadblocks. Successful rebel attacks on military bases, airfields, depots, and convoys show that loyalists are experiencing a severe shortage of personnel. Thus, Assad presumably has only 50 thousands of reliable and combat-ready bayonets - most likely, it is actually his fellow Alawites from the Republican Guard and Special Forces, as well as elite divisions with armored vehicles and more or less trained crews. Another 50 of thousands of reservists were allegedly prepared in one way or another by the joint efforts of the Syrian army, Iranian advisers and in the Hezbollah camps, but it is not possible to verify this thesis.

Confessional specificity

Under the previous president, Hafez Asad, the system of internal relations in the army was clearly balanced, taking into account the confessional peculiarities of Syria, while manifestations of religious peculiarities were suppressed. Any religious symbolism and attributes in the army was prohibited. Collective prayers in the location of army units were allowed only in 2002, and then to soldiers-conscripts. At the same time, the top leadership of the armed forces belonged to the Alawite minority of the population. 70% of the top military leadership of the army and special services were Alawites, and the remaining 30% were evenly distributed between Sunnis, Christians, Druze and Ismaili.

With the arrival of Bashar Assad, the process of changing the confessional balance in the army and special services began (largely under pressure from the opposition, which represents the Sunni majority). In June, 2009 for the first time in all history In modern Syria, Christian General Daud Rajiha became Chief of the General Staff of the SAR Armed Forces. However, much more important was the change of confessional commanding staff of units and formations. If most of the top military leadership of the army and special services continued to be Alawites, then the percentage of Sunnis among the commanders of the “second echelon” (commanders and chiefs of divisions and brigades, a number of operational departments, special services) grew from 30 to 55%.

So, if in 2000, 35% of divisional commanders came from the Sunni community, by the middle of 2010, this figure changed and amounted to 48%. Among the leaderships of different levels of different departments of the General Staff, the number of Sunnis increased from 38% in 2000 to 54-58% in 2010. An even greater increase in the number of Sunnis was observed in the years preceding the uprising among the middle command staff. The percentage of Sunni officers in battalion commander positions increased from 35% in 2000 to 65% by the middle of 2010.

Under Assad, a new strategy was introduced to form the "mixed command of the army and special services." It was based on the principle: if the commander of the unit is Alawit, then his chief of staff is most often Sunni, and the head of counterintelligence is a Christian or a druse, and vice versa. The new strategy was associated with a change in the policy of the regime on confessional issues in terms of providing the Sunnis and other (non-Alawite) denominations with greater opportunities for professional and career growth in areas that were previously closed to them.

However, instead of the reduction of ethnic tension conceived by Asad, such a policy together with the country's economic problems yielded the exact opposite result. The Sunni majority now in the ranks of the armed forces began to show discontent, to demand the expansion of their powers and rights. The result was a rapid decomposition of the army and soon the regime in the suppression of the uprising that broke out was forced to rely on the units staffed mostly by non-Sunni minorities - the division of the Republican Guard, part of the special forces, squadron of the Air Force. Among the non-Sunni population, it is widely believed that if the opposition wins (consisting mainly of Sunnis and representatives of radical Islam), they will be subjected to persecution or even reprisals. These sentiments are broadcast on the non-Sunni units of the armed forces and are the main factor in maintaining their fighting capacity and loyalty to the regime.

Deserterians

According to the opposition, the army is torn by strong contradictions, there are cases of desertion, the refusal of officers to carry out the orders of their superiors.

There may have been clashes between army units that were differently tuned to the regime, but the leadership of the Armed Forces categorically denied any reports of possible disobedience of the units.

As the protest movement became insurgent, the number of reported cases of desertion grew. One of the first deserters of senior officers was Colonel Riyad al-Asad, who, he said, joined the rebels in July 2011, not finding the strength to shoot at the protesters. Colonel al-Asad (pronounced “As-hell”, pause imitates larynx; unlike the name of Syrian President Al-Assad) headed the so-called Free Syrian Army, in December 2012, he was replaced by Brigadier General Salim Idris.

The explosive growth of desertion begins in January 2012 - then the number of deserters reached nine. In March 2012, their total number of all-time standoff was already 18 people, in June - 28, in September - 59. As of the end of December 2012, according to Al-Jazeera, the number of “significant” deserters was 74 people, including 13 diplomats, 4 parliamentarian, 3 minister, 54 security official. As for the security officials, their refusal to support the regime is usually recorded on video and published on YouTube. On these videos you can often see the flag of the Free Syrian Army. In this regard, data from Qatari TV appear to be reliable. According to the Turkish press, from the beginning of the conflict to November 2012 from Syria to Turkey fled a total of over 40 generals of the Syrian Armed Forces.

The reasons for the disobedience of the security forces can only be guessed. They themselves as the main one call unwillingness to carry out clearly criminal, from their point of view, orders. Apparently, at least for some of them, reports of tank or air strikes by loyalists on their deserters' homes become a definite decisive moment.

We also note that some of the deserters report that they had been supporting them for some time before an open transition to the side of the rebels.

Tactics and strategy of the parties

A widespread protest movement and clashes between demonstrators and the police and army unfolded in Syria in March, 2011, and lasted for several months. In the autumn of 2011, it became obvious that it was impossible to dump the regime in a relatively peaceful way; at the same time, the secret services, the army and the “people's warriors” apparently made a rise in bitterness in the society and overslept the appearance of full-fledged insurgent groups in the country.

In the course of the “Battle for Homs” (and, in particular, especially fierce fighting for the Baba Amr area) in February 2012, the Syrian army used tactics that it still uses in the fight against the rebels. Under this model, the area controlled by the militants is surrounded by loyalist forces, checkpoints are organized, artillery and air strikes are delivered, targets (identified and selected at random) are fired upon by tanks. At the same time, the area is disconnected from electricity, gas, sewage, and the delivery of food and necessities is blocked. After the main resistance is crushed (or seems so), armored vehicles and motorized infantry units are moved into quarters to clean up each house. They are accompanied by snipers and militias from the "people's militia" Shabykh. Apparently, the bombing leads to the fact that most of the population of the area is trying to leave the area fired, so the loyalists during the sweeps start from the fact that only “enemies” remained. It is reported that men discovered during the sweeps are considered militants by default - they are checked and filtered, often tortured and killed, at the slightest suspicion of insurgent activity.

In this case, the militants are capable of long enough and skillfully to resist as long as they have food and ammunition. When the preponderance is on the side of the loyalists (and it takes quite a lot of time — often weeks), the militants dissolve into the landscape. Since the government army is able to more or less control only important settlements, the rebels, apparently, are never or almost never fully blocked and are able to retire, treat, and replenish supplies to their camps and bases. Supposedly, they enjoy the support of a part of the population and some representatives of the civil administration and even the military. There are mentions that the army commanders in the field and the leaders of the militants in the course of specific clashes negotiate, enter into agreements of various kinds - on a cease-fire, on the exchange of prisoners and so on.

The rebels during the confrontation rapidly increased their tactical arsenal to the level of full-fledged guerrilla. They successfully make lightning attacks (“hit-and-run”), managing to inflict damage to an enemy who does not expect an attack and dissolve before reinforcement to the loyalists; they arrange ambushes, are engaged in the point of liquidation of commanders, representatives of civil administration, leaders of public opinion (often blaming loyalists for murder); widely used suicide bombers. The rebels skillfully use sniper and anti-tank weapons, a variety of mines, lay improvised explosive devices. The effectiveness of the Assad aviation is reduced due to the threat of the use of small arms and MANPADS for low-flying targets.

The rebels also successfully attack columns on the march. Tactics of loyalists, requiring the concentration of the most combat-ready forces to block the centers of insurgency, in the conditions of a shortage of trained fighters, forces the Syrian Armed Forces to leave bases, warehouses, and columns of equipment without properly trained cover. Even in a flat, straight road in flat desert terrain, trained militants (including al Qaeda with experience in hostilities in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc.) manage to destroy, for example, several KVADRAT vehicles in one attack.

It is reported that the United States organized courses for militants in Jordan, where they are trained to use anti-tank weapons and air defense systems. In the near future, the first "release" is expected.

Presumably, the Syrian authorities are trying to deal with the centers of insurgent activities separately, preventing them from growing and “merging” into large areas free from government control. At the same time, Assad, apparently, requires commanders to avoid actions that could provoke an excessive intensity of the struggle and bring the conflict into the mainstream of a full-scale civil war. In addition, there are a number of “red lines”, the transition of which by loyalists can give rise to foreign intervention - the use or loss of control over weapons of mass destruction, fighting at the borders and damage to neighboring states, etc.

Judging by the growth of the rebel activity zone and the territory of hostilities, the fight against foci is not effective enough to suppress the uprising. Apparently, the regime concentrates its limited forces on ensuring control and relative security of Damascus, the Alawite territories in the west of the country, the Aleppo-Idlib-Hama-Homs-Damascus-Deraa-Jordan border and Aleppo-Deir ez-Zor-Iraqi border as well as energy infrastructure facilities and important agricultural areas in the east. These efforts (and hostilities) are ultimately concentrated in major population centers and along important highways, and most of the country’s territory is poorly controlled or not controlled at all. The last few months, the Syrian army actually left the territory of the Kurds.

As for the rebels, their strategy is very specific. The opposition does not have a unified command and decision-making center, the groups operating in it, the battalions, brigades and the "army" are in fact united by one purpose only — the overthrow of the regime.

Apparently, neither professional Islamists, nor deserters, nor the local self-defense militia find a common language with each other. At the same time, there is almost certainly friction between jihadists from Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and other areas, and former military personnel of the Syrian army. In addition, there are reports that Hejbollah’s jihadists can act on Assad’s side, and Sunni militants are penetrating from Syria into neighboring Iraq, where they cooperate with local Sunni rebels, causing irritation to the Shiite authorities in Baghdad, and that sympathies with Syrian rebels in Syria does not add. However, this disunity, although leading to the steady weakening of the Assad regime and the forces of the loyalists, provokes the transformation of the conflict from a “popular uprising against the despot” (as it was in Libya) into a full-fledged civil war, in which the loyalists turn not into a stronghold of tyranny, but into a major player among other players. This confuses the conflict and threatens to plunge the country into such a chaos, where there can be no winners.

This rebel configuration has one big plus and one big minus. First, the lack of unified command and the desire to seize and hold as many settlements as possible leads to the fact that rebels are virtually impossible to break: as soon as you crush them in one place, they dissolve and accumulate forces at another point, exhausting the regular army and otgryvaya from her pieces here and there. Secondly, rebels are aware of the fact that strong support from abroad and equally powerful pressure on Assad from the same place have long been needed. Ideally, a foreign strike like a Libyan operation. However, the Western sponsors of the rebels require them to unite and form a single command - without this, the rebels cannot receive massive support of either a political or military nature.

Thus, strategically, both sides are unable to prevail. Government forces wear out and incur losses, chasing the rebels through the cities and losing power during the sweeps and maneuvering. The rebels bite loyalists outside the cities and organize attacks on that, then on another important city - but they cannot build on success and break loyalists at least once. Nevertheless, it seems that the rebels are waiting for the balance to slowly slide to their side. So far, they have achieved that the loyalists are no longer able to win, but as soon as the rebels begin to try to hold settlements and establish control over them, the likelihood of tactical defeats for them will grow. Therefore, now they are apparently waiting for the regular army to continue to lose power, and at some point simply lose the ability to knock out rebels. In addition, rebels are trying to provoke the loyalists to any action that would give a reason to organize a foreign intervention.

Interestingly, 25 March, March 2013 resigned from his post the head of the “National Coalition of Syrian Revolutionary and Oppositional Forces” - an organization designed to rally disunited opposition around itself. Its head, Ahmed Muaz al-Khatib, explained his act very vaguely: “I promised the great Syrian people and the Lord God that I would resign if things reached a certain red line.” At the same time, the resignation of al-Khatib was not accepted by the National Coalition of Syrian revolutionary and opposition forces. On the same day, it became known that the former commander of the opposition Free Syrian Army, Colonel Riyad al-Asad, was seriously injured in Deir ez-Zor, when an explosive device was hidden in his car. Supposedly, he suffered a leg amputation and is undergoing treatment outside Syria.

Syria, Darayya, March 2013. Photo by Mikhail Leontiev












































The armed forces of Syria on the eve and during the uprising in the republic (2011 — 2013)









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  1. Greyfox
    Greyfox April 6 2013 09: 14
    64
    Judging by the article, Assad will lose in the war of attrition. We need a turning point in hostilities .. In this regard, I have a question for our authorities, you are probably being informed about the inscriptions "Death of Russia"? So why the hell does not help go to Syria ? We need helicopters, the T-72 needs to be repaired, why doesn't all this go to Syria? Tear off a piece from Abramovich's yacht and Vekselberg's eggs, clean the wallets of the wanderers of the oligarchic tour of the Sinai desert and give Syria everything it needs now! Are you waiting for a selection ... from "the most peaceful religion" to come to us? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?
    1. 89501358976
      89501358976 April 6 2013 10: 16
      32
      WITH ... KI FROZEN DELIVERY TO SYRIA, IN IRAN, SUCH FEELING. WHAT WE PLAY WEST! DOLL LIBERASTS. HURRY TO THE SOVIET UNION! GLORY TO THE SOVIET WARRIORS RELEASED
    2. Nitup
      Nitup April 6 2013 12: 03
      +7
      This war will not be won by anyone and will not end until Russia and the United States agree, because all the other countries that are fighting the war against Syria are acting on the orders of the United States.
    3. Su24
      Su24 April 6 2013 12: 08
      +6
      Because the West will also start deliveries. Who will have more opportunities here? The whole pathos of our position lies in the fact that we insist on non-intervention. It is not a fact that Assad will lose; for the third year in a row.
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg April 6 2013 12: 14
      +2
      Amers do not need a war lasting for decades. During such a time, the true picture of the war will become clearer and public opinion will make an appropriate conclusion. They need puppets here and now. So it will soon become clear how the war in Syria will end.
    5. 755962
      755962 April 6 2013 13: 47
      +5
      Quote: Greyfox
      So what the hell is not going to help in Syria?

      So far, only this
      Russian landing ships will deliver cargo to the Syrian port of Tartus

      http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2013/04/06/n_2838049.shtml
    6. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 April 6 2013 15: 48
      +1
      Without real help (and not empty political chatter) from Russia, Assad will be very hard to defeat, I would say it is almost impossible. But they wait that by itself everything will settle down, but it will not settle down that the whole point is, as there is in advertising - and now we are going to you. Putin lacks decisiveness in this matter, it’s a pity Volodya, it’s time you should think not only about the interests of our oligarchs in Cyprus.
    7. orkibotu
      orkibotu April 7 2013 21: 08
      +2
      do you need a second Awan ??? what would our boys die ??? the guys are not as simple as they seem. Yes, you need to help and the authorities do everything in their power so that it remains only to wait
    8. washi
      washi April 9 2013 16: 21
      +1
      And from whom do you know what is not coming? Mossad, CIA, NSA, MI-6N?
  2. urich
    urich April 6 2013 09: 32
    11
    The West has already given the world a bunch of examples of what will happen to the country if they come there with "democracy" in the American way. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya ... And also Egypt. Although Syria is fighting, this article also notes: the transformation of the conflict from a “popular uprising against a despot” (as it was in Libya) into a full-fledged civil war in which loyalists turn not into a stronghold of tyranny, but into a major player among other players. This confuses the conflict and threatens to plunge the country into such chaos, where there may not be any winners. Photos of Leontiev should be shown to everyone before holding various kinds of "swamp" events! What the fuck is democracy !? DESTRUCTION, POVERTY, complete failure! Here are the results that are awaiting for EVERYONE who goes this way. Those who have already understood this are no longer at the "demonstrations". Maybe all these events will teach our people that it is NOT SO! Post-Soviet countries (Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, at least) are also an example. Today it concerns them more than ever. The only pity is that our people learn from their mistakes. And no matter how many examples there are, this is always not enough for us ...
  3. svp67
    svp67 April 6 2013 09: 38
    +9
    Assad must be supported not only with weapons, but also with money to provide some social reforms. Otherwise, we may lose more ...
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 6 2013 10: 49
      10
      I agree, only then do not forgive the debts (although it seems that the Syrians have already helped Russia with their courage), and for example, let this in offsetting the lease of the fleet base. Well, somehow.
      By the way, you can help not only with weapons, but also with reconnaissance information, data from satellites, send a reconnaissance ship to the shores (as you did when bombing in Kosovo). I’ll think it will be help and experience gained by our specialists — we will kill two birds with one stone. Assad is legal and the generally recognized leader of the state, therefore, one should not be afraid of accusations of the west, but act according to one’s interests on the basis of generally accepted (but poorly implemented by the West) principles.
      By the way, an excellent interview with a Syrian tanker looked at YouTube, praises the T72, but indicates some shortcomings. our designers would have considered it, as long as it is possible to study someone else’s experience
      1. Yen
        Yen April 6 2013 12: 42
        +4
        The mounts were torn off, they fixed it on the t-90 (Chechnya, the t-80 had the same active part). It used to be that they did not expect tanks to ride along the city lanes for a long time. They all relied on the 2nd world experience. , I will say this, the T-72 was not made for desert areas, it was not designed for fighting in this type of climate at all, and therefore they are clogged.
      2. washi
        washi April 9 2013 16: 31
        0
        Loot again ... Of course it's good. Myan killed forgiveness of debts to Iraq, Libya, Vietnam, Angola, etc. These countries have minerals and cheap labor. To them are Tajiks, to us Vietnamese.
  4. lechatormosis
    lechatormosis April 6 2013 09: 47
    +3
    Assad cannot yet adapt the army to the changing conditions of warfare.
    It's hard to catch a black cat in total darkness.
    We need a completely different tactics of warfare in these conditions - I suggest the forum users suggest OR discuss real ideas on how to deal effectively with militants in SYRIA.
    1. v53993
      v53993 April 6 2013 10: 12
      +3
      Mine the borders, leaving corridors that are easier to control.
      1. lechatormosis
        lechatormosis April 6 2013 10: 14
        +2
        But isn’t it too late that part of the border territories is in the hands of the militants.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 6 2013 10: 28
          +7
          Quote: lehatormoz
          But isn’t it too late that part of the border territories is in the hands of the militants.



          It’s not too late to cut off militants from supply bases on foreign territory with remote minefields and air strikes.
        2. bask
          bask April 6 2013 10: 31
          +6
          Quote: lehatormoz

          But isn’t it too late that part of the border territories is in the hands of militants

          It’s not too late. To carry out general mobilization.
          to call in the Syrian armed forces all the loyal male population and volunteers from all over the world. The main bet on the Alavites Shiites and Christians of Syria. They all know well, will lose, Bashar Assad will face all of them imminent death. Therefore, they will wake up to the end.
          AND WHY DO NOT INSTALL ANTI-CUMULATIVE SCREENS ON AN ARMOR. Iran has developed the technology. Why do not Syrians use their MBT, T-72 and BMP. It is not clear.
          Possible options for the impact of the cumulative ammunition with the RE: 1. Actuation of the fuse of the cumulative ammunition. 2. Increase in the angle of encounter of the cumulative munition with the main armor, up to the impact of the body of the cumulative munition "flat" on the main armor. 3. Hanging cumulative ammunition with RE. 4. Breakthrough of the electronic device without detonating the fuse. The huge losses of the United States in Iraq also made them think about protecting light armored vehicles by equipping their Stryker combat vehicles with lattice screens. IMPROVING PROTECTION OF BMP-2 FROM MEANS OF CLOSE COMBAT.
          1. Professor
            Professor April 6 2013 10: 53
            +4
            WHY DO NOT INSTALL ANTI-CUMULATIVE SCREENS ON AN ARMOR

            Infantry is needed, otherwise nothing will help.
            1. bask
              bask April 6 2013 12: 43
              0
              Quote: Professor
              Infantry is needed, otherwise nothing will help

              The infantry is needed. But the soldiers of the IDF are operating in the building with the support of the MBT, Merkava, at a distance of no more than 500 hundred meters from the tanks. Next, the infantry is simply cut off
              And what kind of armored vehicles does Israel use, specially prepared for battle in the city.
              And to combat the partisans hiding in the upper floors of buildings, shock UAVs are used
              The Syrian army does not have such weapons. For this, anti-cumulative screens are needed.
              Cazal soldiers are constantly under the cover of armored vehicles, and not vice versa.
              and in the Gaza Strip., the Palestinians do not have modern RPGs and ATGMs
              1. Professor
                Professor April 6 2013 16: 15
                +3
                The infantry is needed. But the soldiers of the IDF are operating in the building with the support of the MBT, Merkava, at a distance of no more than 500 hundred meters from the tanks. Next, the infantry is simply cut off

                Not quite so, equipment without infantry escort is not thrown into the building (even on your video you can see it)

                And what kind of armored vehicles does Israel use, specially prepared for battle in the city.

                What they are rich in and happy. Nobody waved Assad to create something similar; there is nothing secret there.

                And to combat the partisans hiding in the upper floors of buildings, shock UAVs are used
                The Syrian army does not have such a weapon.

                and drones (Iranian) and everything else Assad has.

                Cazal soldiers are constantly under the cover of armored vehicles, and not vice versa.

                there is a mutual cover, infantry armored vehicles and vice versa

                and in the Gaza Strip., the Palestinians do not have modern RPGs and ATGMs

                Yah? Hamas is better armed than the Rebel in Syria, for example, he has repeatedly used Cornets.


                Any business should be taken seriously. Today, the most combat-ready army has been flailing for combat operations in urban areas. To prepare ALL infantry units, a special city was built that completely copied all the subtleties of Arab cities. In addition to Tzahal, Americans and others train there.










                For this, anti-cumulative screens are needed.

                Would they really help the tank on my video?
                1. bask
                  bask April 6 2013 17: 47
                  +3
                  Quote: Professor
                  Not really, they don’t ask for equipment without infantry support (even on your video, this

                  It can be seen that the armored vehicles constantly accompany the soldiers,
                  Quote: Professor

                  What they are rich in and happy. Nobody waves Assad to create something like that - there is nothing secret there

                  Finance is only finance. Israel works the whole world.
                  Once again, tanks and BTR-T and MBT ,, Merkava ,, specially adapted in operations in urban areas.
                  Quote: Professor
                  Yah? Hamas is better armed than the Rebel in Syria, for example, he has repeatedly used Cornets.

                  Iranians would be better off transferring reservation technology.
                  T-72 m were delivered to Syria back in 1975. They don't even have multilayer turret armor. And even the "newest" Syrian modernization of the "seventy-two" corresponds to the Soviet level of 1985. To enhance the protection of their tanks, the Syrians need to turn to the experience of their main ally, Iran. There they approached the process of modernization of the T-72S supplied by Russia creatively. As a result, tanks equipped with first-generation reactive armor also received lattice screens. This makes it possible to resist even such dangerous weapons as anti-tank rocket grenades with so-called "tandem warheads". It is from them that the Syrian tankers suffer the most serious losses. It is not difficult to create, and even more so to install, such screens, and it is not so expensive.

                  Iranian experience of protecting T-72 tanks Another problem of using tanks in urban conditions was the lack of protection of an anti-aircraft machine-gun mount - there is simply no way to stick out under the bullets of snipers because of the armor. This is what the grenade launchers use. Although everything is not so fatal here. Iraqi tankers, having faced similar problems in their time, found an opportunity to solve it. They mounted protective screens on the commander's turrets of the seventy-two. This, of course, did not secure 100%, but it allowed to reduce losses. And here you can get by with very reasonable costs.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor April 6 2013 18: 49
                    0
                    It can be seen that the armored vehicles constantly accompany the soldiers,

                    and they accompany the armored vehicles fellow

                    MBT ,, Merkava ,, specially adapted in actions in urban development

                    Aren't you confused with the urban Abrams upgrade kit? But let it be your way, where on Merkava are the counter-cumulative screens? Dynamic protection where? wink And on Ahzarite, Namer? And how is she specially adapted in urban areas?

                    This makes it possible to resist even such dangerous weapons as anti-tank rocket grenades with so-called "tandem warheads".

                    Only old and then not a fact. Javelin, Spike hit the top, the new Tou, Bill hit the shock core (goodbye lattice) and even in the roof.

                    They mounted protective screens on the commander's turrets of the seventy-two.

                    Like a dead poultice, only infantry can protect tanks. soldier
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 7 2013 09: 25
              +2
              Quote: Professor
              Infantry is needed, otherwise nothing will help.

              This video has already been discussed!
              Explicit initiation!
              The tank is clearly dead, the gun is not moving!
              Apparently there is no one in the tank!
              1. Professor
                Professor April 7 2013 09: 42
                -1
                Explicit initiation!

                What is its "explicitness"? Planted explosives and remotely detonated a tank by firing a hand grenade detonation?
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay April 7 2013 09: 53
                  +2
                  Quote: Professor
                  What is its "explicitness"? Planted explosives and remotely detonated a tank by firing a hand grenade detonation?

                  You just have to be careful !!
                  I wrote clearly!
                  Again, argue and merge cheaply as always, just to unrecognize your mistakes !!
                  Watch the video carefully and read the topic!
                  and no one says that not a hand grenade exploded!
                  Read carefully, they blew up an apparently empty tank and this is clearly visible!
                  http://topwar.ru/26311-malenkoe-srazhenie-bolshoy-voyny-siriya.html#comment-id-1

                  046058
                  1. Professor
                    Professor April 7 2013 10: 07
                    0
                    Let it be empty. This does not change matters. No gratings would save him in a similar situation.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay April 7 2013 10: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: Professor
                      Let it be empty. This does not change matters. No gratings would save him in a similar situation.

                      Do you know how to read or drank in the morning ???
                      What does the lattice ??
                      Where did I write about gratings?
                      where did you read?
                      You are obviously slowing down something !!
                      1. Professor
                        Professor April 7 2013 10: 18
                        0
                        Do you know how to read or drank in the morning ???
                        What does the lattice ??
                        Where did I write about gratings?
                        where did you read?
                        You are obviously slowing down something !!

                        Sorry, but I don’t know how to read, or you are just lazy. It discusses the possibility of reinforcing tanks with bars, to which I expressed IMHO that tanks cannot live in the city without infantry. As an example, I brought a video where the rebels, taking advantage of the lack of infantry, were able to come close to the tank (more than once) and stupidly destroy it. Whether the crew was in the tank or not (for sure none of us know that) does not matter because of the so-called dead zones. Back to the bars? wink
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay April 7 2013 10: 26
                        +3
                        Quote: Professor
                        Was the crew in the tank or not (for sure none of us knows that)

                        If you carefully watch the video, then for a normal person such a question is not worth it!
                        There was clearly incineration! And I wrote about the clip you posted, and not the issue you were discussing, it was obvious!
                        Quote: Professor
                        Back to the bars?

                        dear, if you carefully watched the clip you posted, you would see people with grenade launchers there who could easily burn that tank without a * hero * with a hand grenade!
                      3. Professor
                        Professor April 7 2013 10: 43
                        0
                        If you carefully watch the video, then for a normal person such a question is not worth it!
                        Clearly there was incineration!

                        So I’m not a normal person, because I don’t know if the crew was there, he slept, was shell-shocked or just smoked bamboo. I can only guess. A re-enactment is when an explosive tank is crammed and the assistant director presses a button to explode the tank and the moment when the actor throws something like a hand grenade into the barrel of a tank. I guess the situation in the video was not quite the case, namely, the tank was destroyed by a hand grenade at least on the second attempt. So what is the actual staging? In the absence of a crew?

                        dear, if you carefully watched the clip you posted, you would see people with grenade launchers there who could easily burn that tank without a * hero * with a hand grenade!

                        I rest my case. No grilles in this case would help the tank.
                      4. Yarbay
                        Yarbay April 7 2013 10: 52
                        +1
                        Quote: Professor
                        I guess the situation in the video was not quite the case, namely, the tank was destroyed by a hand grenade at least on the second attempt. So what is the actual staging? In the absence of a crew?

                        Of course!!
                        Finally it dawned on you !!
                        The clip is post-start!
                        It is unlikely that the young man would have had enough ass to go up to the tank and throw a grenade at the barrel, especially until the fig rocket launchers around !!
                        That is, to bring * feature films * as an argument in discussion is not ethical!
                        Quote: Professor
                        I rest my case. No grilles in this case would help the tank.

                        You did not discover America when you say that a tank without infantry is an easy target in certain conditions in order to restrain its case))
                      5. Professor
                        Professor April 7 2013 10: 57
                        0
                        It is unlikely that the young man would have had enough ass to go up to the tank and throw a grenade at the barrel, especially until the fig rocket launchers around !!

                        You start to amaze me.
                        Firstly, the lattice under discussion would not have protected this tank.
                        Secondly, it is full of "young men" who use an explosive device attached to them. And here there is a chance to survive.

                        You did not discover America when you say that a tank without infantry is an easy target in certain conditions in order to restrain its case))

                        Thank God. This is exactly what the dialogue is about here. Reread comments. hi
                      6. Yarbay
                        Yarbay April 7 2013 11: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: Professor
                        Firstly, the lattice under discussion would not have protected this tank.

                        and who argues ??
                        not one shot, so three!
                        But God forbid, if the tank had time to turn around before the shooters)))
                        Quote: Professor
                        Secondly, it is full of "young men" who use an explosive device attached to them. And here there is a chance to survive.

                        this is not an argument))) because as a young man before the explosion he jumps to the ground obviously wants to live very much!
                        Quote: Professor
                        Thank God. This is exactly what the dialogue is about here. Reread comments
                        it you perchit what and what I wrote and stop trolling already respected professor!))
                        Not beautiful Wallach))
                      7. Professor
                        Professor April 7 2013 12: 03
                        +1
                        and who argues ??

                        I propose to end the dispute here on this consensus. hi
                      8. Yarbay
                        Yarbay April 7 2013 13: 20
                        +3
                        Quote: Professor
                        I propose that the dispute be concluded with this consensus.

                        How can I deny you dear? !! hi
  • vadutc
    vadutc April 8 2013 14: 59
    0
    what a dramatization, the tank fired, is it not visible
  • bautmann
    bautmann 1 May 2014 15: 22
    0
    It’s just ridiculous to read how they seriously discuss, a CCA mounted by terrorists specially for luring money from Americos a production trick !!!
    If you are not children, then everything will become clear to you after the first viewing of this crap !!!
    Here are two answers for you and there’s nothing more to talk about:
    1) Try to throw a STONE at least the size of a RGD-5 grenade in a QUIET environment in a pipe with a diameter of 12,5 centimeters (T-72 gun caliber) even at the tenth attempt and everything will become clear to you !!!
    2) There was a crew in the tank, it really shot ... of course there was !!! There was one person who, AFTER a shot, jumped out of the tank when the operator removed the camera AT THE POST AND WE DID NOT SEE THE TANK !!!

    What else do you explain to my TRUST spectators?
    This is basically how the "valiant" SSA terrorists lure money out of America for their "fight" !!!
  • Su24
    Su24 April 6 2013 14: 20
    +2
    The article says why mass mobilization cannot be carried out. And combat vehicles are not being upgraded, apparently due to a lack of funds.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn April 6 2013 17: 57
      0
      Rather, due to lack of time, in order to modernize the machine, it is necessary to recall not one thing, but at least a company, but where can we get something that can replace it with this company? and they’re driving on what happened and with their own hands they are modernizing everything as they can.
  • AntonR7
    AntonR7 April 10 2013 09: 10
    0
    I hope the government forces will recapture the territory
  • 501Legion
    501Legion April 6 2013 09: 51
    +3
    Leontiev correctly said in his recent comments that they are now fighting for us in Syria. Today Syria then Iran, and then the path is one Russia
    I need help Assad, oh how I need
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 6 2013 10: 51
      0
      I advise you to look for an interview with Marat Musin, he was personally in Syria and says that he saw. hi
  • Kubanets
    Kubanets April 6 2013 09: 59
    0
    So what does the GRU doze off?
    1. v53993
      v53993 April 6 2013 10: 09
      +2
      The GRU must not only think, but also act. We know them by deeds.
  • LeXXSkAt
    LeXXSkAt April 6 2013 10: 26
    +1
    Ehhhhh ..... "Syria needs help" .... And now let's objectively look at ... We are rearming our army, very quietly, and at the expense of export .... In addition to a vigorous club and units of modern technology ( well, to be honest) we lagged behind so why not take time out? Although on the other hand, you still need to remind ...
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 6 2013 10: 52
      +5
      can be helped by reconnaissance via satellites and other technical means. as an option
      1. LeXXSkAt
        LeXXSkAt April 6 2013 11: 02
        +2
        An option, by the way, is not bad ... But as an option, there is pressure on de ... kraths purely polydeski, and would purkva be pa?
  • WWW.budanov
    WWW.budanov April 6 2013 10: 35
    +1
    [quote = Greyfox] Judging by the article, Assad will lose in the war of attrition. We need a turning point in hostilities ...; Death of Russia? "So why the hell isn't aid going to Syria? ... and give Syria everything it is now Needs! Are you waiting ... until a selection from the "most peaceful religion" came to us? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? "
    GREAT saying! BUT, unfortunately, Russia can NOT right away IMMEDIATELY turn over the whole horde of the Pentagon. Did you forget Spain? Vietnam ... something else with Egypt, etc. It is DIFFICULT now for Russia, after 20 years of robbery and collapse, for the same 20 years to revive everything. The main thing is that the whole World sees LIFT and ATTENTION of Russia!
    AND ONCE AGAIN THANKS TO ALL Russians !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    (old teacher)
  • Yankuz
    Yankuz April 6 2013 10: 55
    +4
    This is a completely new type of war, numerous dispersed, constantly moving, constantly supplying and replenishing fresh forces militants - it's like Cockroaches! And you yourself know how to bring out cockroaches - to travert specifically and throughout the hut! And you can catch one by one - you can endlessly - anyway, they will climb onto the head sooner or later.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 6 2013 20: 28
      +7
      Syrian army was preparing fight with Israel. But it turned out that it was necessary to fight in the cities with partisans armed with machine guns, grenade launchers, machine guns and sniper rifles. The army was not ready for such a war.
      However, during the two years of the war, having suffered heavy losses (partly deserted, partly lost, partly transferred to the enemy), the army turned into a very combat-ready structure. Now there are 5–6 brigades in the army, which are quite adequately and efficiently fighting in the most difficult urban conditions, equal fighting with well-trained rebels, which are trained by experts - both Turkish and American, and even there is information about the Israeli.
      Assad is a completely democratic person and suffered not because of his tyranny, but out of desire liberal reforms that led to a monstrous split in the country - as well as in Russia in the 90s. Only our population did not take up arms, and the Syrian took up them. Under Islamic slogans. We did not have such a catalyst. In 93, the Supreme Council lost to us - and the scheme was the same. But in Syria there are Islamic radicals who do not allow the will to dampen the struggle for social reasons.
      Everywhere Western liberalism comes, the prerequisites of war arise everywhere, hatred appears everywhere, state sovereignty begins to weaken, the corrupt liberal bourgeoisie, tied to Western money, and impoverished people everywhere appear. This is just a universal scheme.
      And in Syria, it was practically no different from Russia. The peculiarity of the Syrian economy was that the vast majority of the population was engaged in agriculture, which was subsidized by the state. The peasants were not rich, but they lived reasonably well.
      But after the creation of a system of “liberal reforms” - in fact, the arrival of Western speculators in Syria - it immediately became clear: agriculture was unprofitable. From the point of view of the market. And it is more profitable to give large loans to resellers (it seems to Russia in the 90s, isn’t it?) That they buy tomatoes not from the Syrian peasants, but, for example, from Turkish producers in Antalya.
      And Syria was flooded with imported products. The village instantly became a beggar, because it lost access to the market on a large scale. Agriculture has truly become unprofitable. And speculators-dealers, financiers and the state bureaucracy began to grow rich.
      The bureaucracy provided permission to create banks and other profitable structures, the security forces covered up the business, getting their share from it, and speculators pumped these structures with money, depreciating the work of the Syrian peasants. And so the peasants, mostly Sunnis, took up arms.
      Assad then began to curtail "liberal reforms." Because he understood where he leads the state. However, it was too late.
      A very powerful opposition has developed against Assad. And the West hoped that everything would go very quickly in Syria, that the opposition would quickly sweep away BASS, that the events would go according to a scenario that was even less bloody than in Libya.
      But it turned out that the Sunni village fell under the complete influence of radicals from the countries of the Middle East - Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Qatar.
      Now the situation there is stalemate, no one can win the final victory. Assad has nowhere to retreat, he has already been deleted from all lists, and the Sunnis peasants would be happy to go to the world if the reforms were canceled, but the train has already left, now the main role belongs not to them Islamists of all stripes from around the world. and these will fight until the money runs out. and they won’t end until Assad leaves. Vicious circle..
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 7 2013 09: 40
        +3
        Quote: Ascetic
        The Syrian army was preparing to fight Israel, but it turned out that it was necessary to fight in the cities with partisans armed with machine guns, grenade launchers, machine guns and sniper rifles. The army was not ready for such a war

        something unconvincingly prepared for war with Israel!
        And that according to the Syrian military doctrine, it was believed that the Israelis would not enter the Syrian cities or the Syrian army believed that in the event of a miracle and the Syrian invasion of Israel, the Israelis would surrender the city without a fight! ???
        but what were they going to fight in the cities?
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 April 8 2013 08: 17
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          As far as I understand, the assault on cities during the modern war is more an exception than a rule. Let's recall the major operations to storm cities, for example, in WWII - Stalingrad and the Berlin operation come to mind. Moreover, both were completely useless for the defenders. Even if destroyed Berlin could stand, the Germans would still end. For us, Stalingrad was also rather a symbol, since the Germans reached the Volga and higher and lower than the city and the Volga could not be used like that for transport (to be completely accurate, it can be pointed out that Stalingrad chained the army of Paulus, which otherwise it would have the freedom of maneuver and hardly be surrounded. And how many cities during the war passed from hand to hand, but there are no such major assaults. After WWII, I don’t remember the storming of cities during wars. Usually the troops leave cities under threat detour from no one wants to be left without supplies.Serbs generally left the whole land without the influence of the enemy ground forces.
          The issue of assaulting cities has recently arisen in connection with non-standard military operations conducted by semi-partisan / militia and partisan / bandit formations in Grozny, Basra, Ras Lanuf, Sirte and Bani Valide. All these actions took place with the complete domination of the enemy in the air. Therefore, urban development was a good defense for defenders from air strikes. They were simply difficult to detect from the air. But, most importantly, a significant amount of supply can be hidden in urban development. However, I do not think that the supplies stored in the basements of urban development would be enough for large military formations of the Israeli army or the Syrian regular army. Thus, it makes sense to defend the city that the Syrians, that the Jews are not observed. And for cleansing a small number of militias and encirclement, who were unable to create a centralized defense, both sides had special forces.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 8 2013 14: 29
            +2
            Quote: alicante11
            Thus, it makes sense to defend the city that the Syrians, that the Jews are not observed.

            Most of your theses on the defense of cities and examples are wrong !!
            They left the cities and territories in the case when the armies were demoralized and could not provide centralized resistance !!
            The defense of cities is very important in modern warfare, at least for the exhaustion of enemy forces, for undermining their moral strengths, plus for preserving certain threats to military formations moving inland! Another question is that the armies are not very prepared for this on the basis that if necessary it will not be difficult!
            Quote: alicante11
            And for cleansing a small number of militias and encirclement, who were unable to create a centralized defense, both sides had special forces.

            Well, right now it needed that special forces and damn the head on the shoulders of the military !!
            The question is posed incorrectly!
            The Syrian army at the beginning of the war was demolorized by mass desertion and could not control part of the cities and all borders - that’s the reason !!
            and then the indecision in striking by all means at the bandits aggravated the situation!
  • Egoza
    Egoza April 6 2013 11: 42
    +4
    In general, we must pay tribute to the courage and determination of Assad! it was precisely these qualities that the leadership lacked when the coup was carried out in Russia, in Yugoslavia, in Ukraine. If the West had not supplied the "rebels" with weapons and "volunteers" this "uprising" would have failed long ago! Yes, Russia cannot now fully resist NATO, but maybe it is possible at least to cut off the supply flows of the "democrats"?
    1. Viking
      Viking April 6 2013 12: 02
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      but maybe it is possible at least to cut off the supply flows of the "democrats"?

      How interesting to do it. If Syria has a very long border with very unfriendly Turkey and Iraq, where is the supply of both weapons and people. The regime in Syria, as it is not sad, is doomed, there are practically no chances against the strongest world players of the States, Europe, and Turkey in close cooperation with Islamic radicals of a terrorist nature. The only question is how long Assad will last. And so already, battles with gangs with an enviable periodicity arise both on the outskirts and in the capital of Syria - Damascus.

      Yes, and I must say that this is not pure foreign aggression as an example in Iraq or Yugoslavia, it is an internal conflict, where Syrian citizens are opposed to government forces for one reason or another, but it is understandable with the active support from abroad.
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer April 6 2013 13: 16
        +3
        a man who was in Syria claims that the bulk of the militants are mercenaries from Libya, etc., and not Syrians. And you can control the border using satellites, for example. The Russian Federation could help
  • bask
    bask April 6 2013 12: 45
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    Quote: bask
    Quote: Professor
    Infantry is needed, otherwise nothing will help

    The infantry is needed. But the soldiers of the IDF are operating in the building with the support of the MBT, Merkava, at a distance of no more than 500 hundred meters from the tanks. Next, the infantry is simply cut off
    And what kind of armored vehicles does Israel use, specially prepared for battle in the city.
    And to combat the partisans hiding in the upper floors of buildings, shock UAVs are used
    The Syrian army does not have such weapons. For this, anti-cumulative screens are needed.
    Cazal soldiers are constantly under the cover of armored vehicles, not vice versa ...
    1. Viking
      Viking April 6 2013 13: 26
      +4
      Jews know how to fight. This cannot be taken away from them. Perhaps, if not the most, then one of the most combat-ready, equipped and effective armies in the world. And it cannot be otherwise, since the army is constantly at war for more than half a century.
  • Slavs
    Slavs April 6 2013 13: 27
    +4
    How is our tanker? ... I hope alive - healthy .... Seriously, I'm worried about the man, how he became native ...
    1. Frunze
      Frunze April 6 2013 15: 57
      +1
      That's for sure, Nadima is sorry for the bright soul hi
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi April 6 2013 14: 07
    +9
    At the beginning of the 90's, I served in the engineering battalion of the military unit in SO AOI. Among the assessments of the Syrian army, the following was remembered: a magnificent sniper school, very well trained special forces, well trained, equipped and motivated tank units, but here is the infantry in the corral. Among the officers, the service in the infantry is the least prestigious, the least allocated funds to the infantry. Of course, in 20 years, much could have changed, but it seems to me not so much.
  • Gamal
    Gamal April 6 2013 15: 25
    +1
    http://www.nakanune.ru/articles/17631/ интервью и видео Леонтьева: "Дарайя - привет от чеченских ваххабитов из Сирии".
  • Vitali-46
    Vitali-46 April 6 2013 15: 46
    +1
    Too bad the Syrian people !!!!
  • Gamal
    Gamal April 6 2013 15: 51
    +2
    South Africa recently hosted the BRICS summit, an organization to which Assad turned directly for support. If there was a decision on this appeal, it was certainly outside the scope of the protocol. And now the question is, what prevented Russia from inviting Assad to the BRICS summit or finally organizing his visit to Russia now (of course, ensuring the safety of the flight), that would be serious political support for Syria and a blow to it, and therefore to our enemies. Moreover, we still hesitate to openly supply weapons there. Or is Assad now "restricted to travel abroad"? So, for example, Ahmadinejad freely moves around the world and wanted to spit on the Americans and their sanctions.
  • alicante11
    alicante11 April 6 2013 16: 16
    +2
    And it seems to me that the article is too biased.
    The first thing that catches your eye is the lack of C-300 complexes in the article. Which, although of early modifications, is in service with Syrian air defense. Which already seriously strengthens the air defense of Syria. Considering Bukov and Shell, the air defense strike part is quite effective and stable. I have never come across information about passive systems for early detection of targets. With the exception of rather slurred data about stationary radars for airspace control. But neither type, nor quantity nor characteristics were met, unfortunately. If these systems are absent, this seriously weakens Syrian air defense, since all systems will be forced to search for targets in active mode and fall under the attacks of anti-radar missiles, as was the case in Libya in 82. But, given the experience of fighting with Israeli aviation and the experience of modern air war, I hope that such complexes are present. At least, Iran, apparently, bought such in Belarus. In this case, Syrian air defense is very dangerous for NATO and Israel. Since it will be very difficult to suppress it.
    As a matter of fact, it is not entirely clear how combat-ready the air defense of Syria is. After all, they quite well managed to bring down a Turkish plane. But at the same time they missed the Israeli raid. I can assume that at present the most modern air defense of Syria is concentrated on the defense of the capital, Aleppo and in the sea direction, where the Turks were shot down. As for the Israeli raid, according to one version voiced by the Western media themselves, there was a blow to the convoy on the Lebanese border. In this case, low-flying aircraft did not face danger from the long-range air defense systems, and they simply did not reach the modern short-range and medium-range air defense systems. Considering that the 2 of the aircraft took part in the raid, and only one hit, the second, apparently, performed the tasks of providing electronic warfare, covering the comrade from the old air defense systems that remained in the Israeli direction.
    Regarding the morale and training of the Syrian army, I think, in general, it is not worth doubting it. For the third year, they have been fighting professional mercenaries. But at the same time, they always succeed in operations against militants. It is possible that at the initial stage of the war, the Syrians were unprepared for fighting in urban conditions. But in the two years of the war, they learned a lot in any way.
    At the expense of mass mobilization. Assad is absolutely right without conducting mass mobilization. In the fight against militants, professionalism is important, not the number of soldiers. Therefore, it is completely normal that most of the troops have a garrison service to protect important facilities, while elite units and special forces carry out mopping-up and prosecution of militants. Given the lack of a large amount of information about the seizure by militants of important objects, such as air bases, warehouses and garrisons, there are enough troops to guard them. Even explosions of transformer substations have not been heard for a long time. At the same time, the civilian population somehow ensures the functioning of the economy. Without which Syria generally crashes. By the way, given the fact that the Syrian economy is suffering heavy losses, there is no doubt that it can stay afloat only and exclusively with the financial support of Iran, China and Russia. This is by far the best Assad assistance on our part.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 6 2013 16: 24
      -3
      As for the Israeli raid, according to one version voiced by the Western media themselves, there was a blow to the convoy on the Lebanese border. In this case, low-flying aircraft did not face danger from the long-range air defense systems, and they simply did not reach the modern short-range and medium-range air defense systems. Considering that 2 planes took part in the raid, and only one hit, the second, apparently, performed the tasks of providing electronic warfare, covering the comrade from the old air defense systems that remained in the Israeli direction.

      A column of air defense systems (both laughter and sin) was destroyed in 10 km from the capital of Syria. If the damask is not covered, then why do we need air defense?
  • SIBIR38RUS
    SIBIR38RUS April 6 2013 16: 16
    +3
    B .... D !!!! They will bury Syria at such a pace right before our eyes .... If AGAIN is silent (as with Libya and Yugoslavia), we will soon see on TV the faces of enthusiastic rebels in the center of Damascus hugging with NATO soldiers !!! WAIT FOR YOUR MOTHER !!
  • alicante11
    alicante11 April 6 2013 16: 16
    +5
    Now for the recommendations for the Assad regime. Oddly enough, it is difficult to make special recommendations. Assad does everything right. The army defends important objects. Special Forces and the Air Force smash the militants. And this tactic allows Asadovites to keep the situation in the country under control for a long time. Asadists will not be able to cross the borders. Just not enough strength. Continuous mining is too costly and does not solve problems at all, given the availability of special means to overcome minefields. So while Russia, Iran and China will support Assad economically and politically, all the machinations of the West will, of course, be in vain. Because the militants do not control large territories in order to create full-fledged bases and groups for large-scale offensive operations.
    The only thing that can be advised to Assad, to protect the civilian population, to adopt the tactics of Gaddafi. And arm the civilian population, so that people can create squads to protect their settlements, not breaking away from economic activity. This will further hamper the actions of the militants. But it can lead to unnecessary casualties among the civilian population, since it will be difficult for the squads to fight with professional mercenaries. However, given what militants allow themselves to do with civilians, it is better for Syrian men to die in battle than to be slaughtered like rams.
  • alicante11
    alicante11 April 6 2013 16: 55
    +1
    A column of air defense systems (both laughter and sin) was destroyed in 10 km from the capital of Syria. If the damask is not covered, then why do we need air defense?


    I have not heard such an interpretation.
    If this is a column, then it is not deployed and cannot resist. At the expense of 10km, I still doubt very much. Why would Jews destroy an air defense column near Damascus? If they wanted to show everyone the weakness of Syria’s air defense, then why didn’t the intervention begin after that? Most likely, it was a convoy with weapons for Hezbollah and it was destroyed near the Lebanese border.
    1. Professor
      Professor April 6 2013 18: 54
      0
      At the expense of 10km, I still strongly doubt it.

      What are the contradictions? Take a look at the map, from the center !!! Damascus to the Lebanese border as much as 24 km.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 April 8 2013 07: 22
        +1
        Well, I do not see a claim to Syrian air defense. If the target was destroyed on the border or near the border with Lebanon, then the Jews did not even need to enter the airspace of Syria. It is unlikely that the Jews flew over the territory of Syria, most likely, passed in the airspace of Lebanon. But even if they invaded (and why?), Then obviously for an extremely short time. For which they did not have time to make a decision to open fire. The Syrian air defense system is still centralized this time. The second is whether it was worth spending a couple of Jewish cars on missiles to Buk, which are not so many and which are needed to protect long-range air defense systems. This clearly did not look like an invasion, so C-75 and C-125, as well as FOR, had to respond. But, apparently, electronic warfare and a short contact time did their job.
        1. Professor
          Professor April 8 2013 08: 01
          +3
          Well, I do not see a claim to Syrian air defense.

          A reasonable question arises, then why is Syria air defense and what is it worth at all if it is not able to protect the capital of the state (2012) or a nuclear reactor (2007).

          It is unlikely that the Jews flew over the territory of Syria, most likely, passed in the airspace of Lebanon.

          Thus, if desired, the country of NATO from Lebanese territory will turn Damascus into ruins?

          The second - was it worth it to spend a couple of Jewish cars rockets to Bukami

          Assad will sacrifice "anything" to overwhelm an Israeli plane - such a victory on the information front would not hurt him at all. You need to know the local mentality.

          But, apparently, electronic warfare and a short contact time did their job.

          I would say again EW and short contact time did their job.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 April 8 2013 11: 22
            0
            A reasonable question arises, then why is Syria air defense and what is it worth at all if it is not able to protect the capital of the state (2012) or a nuclear reactor (2007).


            I don't know the details about the events of 2007. Obviously, there were objective reasons for the failure of the Syrian air defense missions. As well as, it is quite possible that this blow led to the fact that these problems were resolved. We do not know much about the state of the Syrian air defense. However, the fact that the "no-fly zone" has not yet been introduced speaks, I think, of their quality. Or are there other explanations for this?

            Thus, if desired, the country of NATO from Lebanese territory will turn Damascus into ruins?


            If the Syrians are blunt, then yes. But actually, this is war. Now the Syrians have something to lose. Therefore, they will not shoot down planes over foreign territory. This is an automatic intervention. Moreover, the raid had no serious consequences. In the case of a massive strike from Lebanese airspace, it quite legally becomes the scene of battle, as well as the territory of Israel and Lebanon itself. And God himself ordered the downing of Jewish planes there. In principle, for this strike, Israel could now declare war. But the Syrians are only lacking Jewish problems now, so they swallowed this arrogant and in no way provoked state terrorism.

            Assad will sacrifice "anything" to overwhelm an Israeli plane - such a victory on the information front would not hurt him at all. You need to know the local mentality.


            Assad, fortunately, is a pragmatist or does not know the "local mentality" :). Even a Turk was fired from a simple anti-aircraft gun. When you have small forces and resources, you will not scatter them. The Buks have a specific task. Covering Damascus and long-range air defense systems. I hope they will do it if necessary.

            I would say again EW and short contact time did their job.


            You could say that. Although one should not forget about neutral airspace and small damage from this action.
            Apparently, NATO evaluates Syria’s air defense system somewhat better than you, since it has not tried its strength for the past 2 years.
            1. Professor
              Professor April 8 2013 11: 50
              0
              Or are there other explanations for this?

              The only reason for the absence of the "unmanned zone" is, in the opinion of the Americans, the absence of a single pragmatic force capable of resisting Assad. Well, they will bomb, and then what? Al Qaeda will securely land in Damascus.
              At the expense of air defense, it is not an obstacle to the West. Before the 2007, the Israelites crossed the sound bayer over Assad’s palace.

              But the Syrians are only lacking Jewish problems now, so they swallowed this arrogant and in no way provoked state terrorism.

              1. If they could then they would bring down.
              2. Even if Tzahal’s planes were in Lebanese airspace, missiles could not be intercepted.
              3. If some are "Syrians" then others are "Israelis" or "Arabs" and "Jews".
              4. Who is involved in state terrorism is not a question at all. Whoever supplies arms to Hezbollah’s terrorist organization gives shelter to Hamas and Islamic Jihad is also well known. Who slammed the Lebanese leader is also revealed. Who was the first to violate the ceasefire in the Golan Heights ...

              Bukov has a specific task. Cover Damascus and long-range air defense systems. I hope that if necessary they will fulfill it.

              I repeat. The bombing attack was carried out with impunity in the suburbs of Damascus. Where to next?

              Apparently, NATO evaluates Syria’s air defense system somewhat better than you, since it has not tried its strength for the past 2 years.

              see above
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 April 8 2013 13: 32
                +1
                The only reason for the absence of the "unmanned zone" is, in the opinion of the Americans, the absence of a single pragmatic force capable of resisting Assad. Well, they will bomb, and then what? Al Qaeda will securely land in Damascus.


                Somehow in Libya and Iraq it did not stop them. Islamists came to Egypt and Tunisia. And amers somehow do not strain on them. Talk nonsense.

                At the expense of air defense, it is not an obstacle to the West. Before the 2007, the Israelites crossed the sound bayer over Assad’s palace.


                So why now still do not go :).

                1. If they could then they would bring down.


                You personally Assad, or his medium :).

                2. Even if Tzahal’s planes were in Lebanese airspace, missiles could not be intercepted.


                Well, all the more, to spend Bukov’s precious anti-aircraft missiles on missiles. Thank God that you are not Assad.

                3. If some are "Syrians" then others are "Israelis" or "Arabs" and "Jews".


                I do not understand why this thought?

                4. Who is involved in state terrorism is not a question at all. Whoever supplies arms to Hezbollah’s terrorist organization gives shelter to Hamas and Islamic Jihad is also well known. Who slammed the Lebanese leader is also revealed. Who was the first to violate the ceasefire in the Golan Heights ...


                If Israel complied with the UN resolution and rushed out of the occupied territories, then there would be no need to arm Hezbollah, whose fighters are fighting for their homeland. There would be no "dividing line", etc. etc. But Israel struck a blow on the territory of a sovereign state. Let's remember what was the reason for the start of WWII?

                I repeat. The bombing attack was carried out with impunity in the suburbs of Damascus. Where to next?


                I repeat. A missile bomb was launched from Lebanese airspace. Syria’s response would mean war. Which is now completely unnecessary to Syria. Therefore, the Jews were allowed to calmly retire. especially since the damage was minimal.
                1. Professor
                  Professor April 8 2013 14: 11
                  -1
                  Somehow in Libya and Iraq it did not stop them. Islamists came to Egypt and Tunisia. And amers somehow do not strain on them. Talk nonsense.

                  This is not said by me, but by American analysts. Both Americans and Europeans are very tense about the rise of Islamists to power, especially in Egypt. In Congress, voices are heard about the revision of military and economic assistance, etc.

                  So why now still do not go :).

                  As you can see, if necessary, they even manage to bomb. wink

                  I do not understand why this thought?

                  Semantics. In Israel, Israelis live and serve in the army, among them Jews.

                  If Israel complied with the UN resolution and rushed out of the occupied territories, then there would be no need to arm Hezbollah, whose fighters are fighting for their homeland. There would be no "dividing line", etc. etc. But Israel struck a blow on the territory of a sovereign state. Let's remember what was the reason for the start of WWII?

                  You are confusing something. In the year 2000, Israel complied with the decision of the UN Security Council and left Lebanon on the international border, but Hezbollah did not self-sedate and, moreover, in 2006 attacked Israel. What Homeland did they (Hezbollah) fight for in 2006? And now? wink About the dividing strip generally smiled. I grew up in a military town 5 km from the Turkish border and there was no such "dividing line" as in the USSR, except perhaps in North Korea. And at the most extreme, Syria was the first to violate the 1974 ceasefire. This is a documented fact. Israel only reacted to the aggression. hi
                  1. alicante11
                    alicante11 April 8 2013 14: 43
                    0
                    This is not said by me, but by American analysts. Both Americans and Europeans are very tense about the rise of Islamists to power, especially in Egypt. In Congress, voices are heard about the revision of military and economic assistance, etc.


                    American analysts say what the State Department tells them to say. And at the expense of voltage. Well, they tensed on Gaddafi and where is he? They strained Saddam and where is he? They tensed at Milosevic and where is he? They tensed on Mubarak ... well, you yourself understand. And this is so for external use, they are threatening with a finger.

                    As you can see, if necessary, they even manage to bomb.


                    Well, cowards from around the corner can also sometimes give a piglet on the head. So are the Jews from Lebanon. However, it is in their spirit. And over Assad’s house it’s somehow scary, you see :).

                    Semantics. In Israel, Israelis live and serve in the army, among them Jews.


                    So what? In Israel - the Jews, I sympathize with them. Well, not everyone can be Russian.

                    You are confusing something. In the 2000 year, Israel complied with the UN Security Council decision and left Lebanon, moving to the international border, however, Hezbollah was not self-invested and, moreover, it attacked Israel in 2006.


                    I'm afraid you're confused, dear. Lebanon is part of the Arab territories that were chopped off by Jews from their rightful owners. So leaving - go away and whenever possible, from everywhere. However, perhaps - yes. Now the Arabs will bring down Israel in any way. It was necessary to leave earlier. Better yet, and not come at all.

                    In the 1981 year, the Knesset of Israel adopted the Golan Heights Act, where Israel sovereignty over this territory was unilaterally proclaimed. The annexation was invalidated by UN Security Council Resolution No. 497 of December 17 of 1981.


                    From the perspective of the UN Security Council, the West Bank is under Israeli occupation [5].


                    According to UN resolutions, territories outside the Green Line are considered occupied by Israel. On the other hand, Israel considers the Golan Heights and the whole of Jerusalem to be part of its territory (it annexed these territories), and defines the remaining lands it captured in 1967 as disputed. (See also Israel #Boundaries). The annexation was invalidated by the UN Security Council Resolution of December 17 of 1981 and condemned by the UN General Assembly in 2008.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor April 8 2013 15: 09
                      -1
                      American analysts say what the State Department tells them to say.

                      ... and the State Department does not see a real force that can be supported in Syria, and therefore only the former Syrian military are being trained in Jordan. About Mubarak, you are again mistaken. He was the most pro-American Arab leader.

                      Well, cowards from around the corner can also sometimes give a piglet on the head. So are the Jews from Lebanon. However, it is in their spirit. And over Assad’s house it’s somehow scary, you see :).

                      Dear Syrian General Staff,
                      We inform you that tomorrow at 4:32 we will bomb your object.
                      The coordinates, route and composition of the aircraft is attached.
                      Yours faithfully,
                      General Staff AOI.

                      Continue this insanity? wassat

                      UN Security Council Resolution 497 of December 17, 1981

                      Hezbollah and Lebanon, how did you get here? lol

                      Lebanon is part of the Arab territories that were chopped off by Jews from their rightful owners.

                      You don't know the story at all. Israel introduced its peacekeepers to force the northern neighbor to peace and save the local Khrestian population. After completing the mission, he sent troops to the international border.
                      Let’s leave the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict for another topic, otherwise I’ll now remember the League of Nations and the division of the mandate of Palestine and the Ottoman Empire with King David. wink
                      1. alicante11
                        alicante11 April 8 2013 15: 38
                        +1
                        . and the State Department does not see a real force that can be supported in Syria, and therefore only the former Syrian military are being trained in Jordan. About Mubarak, you are again mistaken. He was the most pro-American Arab leader


                        Well, about Gaddafi and Saddam, you did merge, because there was no one to bet on either. But in Iraq, it was possible to find who to buy, and in Libya, it’s just that power was transferred to terrorists. And all the rules. But Mubarak - yes, he was pro-American, in the know. Only now the old one has become. Hints did not understand that they asked to get out. Therefore, he left when they said bluntly. Therefore, it sits, and does not hang in the noose like Saddam, is not torn to pieces like Gaddafi, but also not on the run as the more intelligent Ben-Ali. So, on whom the amers strained, those are already far away. But Assad still kicks under the cover of Russia and China with Iran.

                        Continue this insanity?


                        No, it's only Russians who say "I'm going for you", the Jews are not capable of this, the guts are thin. All that was needed was to go through Syria in order to get the Strela in the side at low altitude, or to a large missile with the S-200/300. Then they would already know exactly what the Syrian air defense is. and so guess, but argue because of Jewish cowardice.

                        Hezbollah and Lebanon, how did you get here?


                        Are they shaw, not Arabs? They meet for their own.

                        You don't know the story at all. Israel introduced its peacekeepers to force the northern neighbor to peace and save the local Khrestian population. After completing the mission, he sent troops to the international border.


                        Well, so how did such humanities turn out to be invaders, moreover, recognized by the UN Security Council, a territory that is larger than their chopped state?

                        Let’s leave the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict for another topic, otherwise I’ll now remember the League of Nations and the division of the mandate of Palestine and the Ottoman Empire with King David.


                        And let’s, at the same time, remember the outcome from Egypt, etc. etc. I am based on international law that was enshrined after WWII. According to it, Israel is an occupier. Therefore, helping those who have his rhythm is a holy cause, and not terrorism of any kind. Be it Hezbollah or Hamas. But to strike at the territory of a sovereign state is state terrorism and a cause for war.
                      2. Professor
                        Professor April 8 2013 16: 01
                        -2
                        No, it's only Russians who say "I'm going for you", the Jews are not capable of this, the guts are thin. All that was needed was to go through Syria in order to get the Strela in the side at low altitude, or to a large missile with the S-200/300. Then they would already know exactly what the Syrian air defense is. and so guess, but argue because of Jewish cowardice.

                        I understood everything about you, I promise not to disturb you anymore. Grow up - talk. I have the honor. hi
                      3. alicante11
                        alicante11 April 8 2013 16: 13
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                        Well so, excuse me, before senility has not yet matured.
                        In general, as they say, when there is nothing to say, you need to leave with a smart look. Drain counted, dear.
              2. alicante11
                alicante11 April 8 2013 14: 48
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                About the dividing strip generally smiled. I grew up in a military town 5 km from the Turkish border and there was no such "dividing line" as in the USSR, except perhaps in North Korea.


                And what does this have to do with it? The dividing line in Syria is occupied by the Syrian territories. And "the border with Turkey, are these territories seized by the USSR from Turkey? Or is the North Korean dividing line separating the non-sovereign state of Koreans from the state of American puppets, protecting from the destruction of those Koreans who were not finished off by the American carpet bombing at the time?"
  • zinander
    zinander April 6 2013 21: 39
    +2
    It infuriates me when scumbags and bandits are called rebels. And the help is surely provided, it is not without reason that the fleet goes there and there.
  • MY THOUGHT
    MY THOUGHT April 6 2013 22: 07
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    In Syria, Russia must learn to resist the West in its games in the revolution, while it is necessary to train not the military, but the political part. It makes no sense to supply expensive weapons to Assad for free, the party is most likely lost in its military component, I don’t know of any country where, after the defeat of the revolutionaries, peace would reign for a long time, the Assad would have to leave, and who will get what we "give them" is unknown. they will hardly come to us, they will go to the guys with money.
  • bask
    bask April 6 2013 22: 42
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    Quote: Ascetic
    Syria was preparing to fight Israel, but it turned out that it was necessary to fight in the cities with partisans armed with machine guns, grenade launchers, machine guns and sniper rifles. The army was not ready for such a war

    Our army was preparing for a world war with NATO and the United States. And it fought in Afghanistan and Chechnya No. 1,2.
    Is it ready now? No, not ready. There is no armored vehicles for actions in the city and mountains. There is no methodical training of soldiers .. Corresponding to modern challenges, asymmetric war. No, but we hope for new Armata, Boomerang, Kurganets match.
  • Krapovy32
    Krapovy32 April 7 2013 15: 08
    +3
    The whole country was flooded with blood. Hold on to Bashar, the truth is yours.
  • Xroft
    Xroft April 7 2013 18: 28
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    Yes, graffiti about the death of Russia does not inspire optimism ......
  • Ratibor12
    Ratibor12 April 7 2013 18: 56
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    Du.ratsky article. Information value is negative.
  • Ratibor12
    Ratibor12 April 7 2013 19: 00
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    "Loyalists versus rebels" - which, loyalists and rebels ??? Since when did the intervention come to be called rebellion? Pakistani, Libyan, Chechen or Afghan fanatics, coupled with Turkish, British or Amer advisers and special forces, with the support of Israel, are Syrian rebels ??? Here are those on! request
  • Ratibor12
    Ratibor12 April 7 2013 19: 07
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    "... As the political situation deteriorated, Air Force personnel began to be involved in an increasing number of ethically controversial tasks ..." - Yes! You heard right! It is not ethical to bomb the invaders !!! belay
    "... The system of military command is extremely centralized and completely subordinated to the authority of Assad. It is believed that the army is controlled very rigidly, orders are taken to be executed" from and to "... - Hmm-ah! Serious yzyan! Let's vote to go on the attack or not!
    "... leads to inertia and lack of flexibility in solving the problems at hand ..." - Strange. But practice shows that the country has quite "stagnantly" withstood and inflexible resists aggression. laughing
  • Ratibor12
    Ratibor12 April 7 2013 19: 08
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    "... It is believed that the Syrian army gravitates towards the tactics of positional defense, and mobility and the ability to rapidly build up forces in the main direction at the moment is not its strong point ..." - Well, what they think in the West and in Israel - do not care. Syria has repeatedly ruffled the Eretz on the side. And the fight was at least equal. And the Americans shook off. Alas, not all returned to the aircraft carrier.
    1982 Peace to Galilee. Major General Nikolai Vasilyevich Logvinov, advisor to the commander of the 1st Army Corps: “The morale and combat training of the Syrian troops turned out to be higher than that of the enemy. To defeat him, little was left to do. Nevertheless, under pressure from the Americans, a truce was reached ... The Syrians in practice showed the enemy and the entire Western world, led by the United States, that the initiative was in their hands. They believed in the strength of their capabilities, in the strength and superiority of the Soviet weapons at their disposal. " Our military "considered" correctly. And the United States then, once again, by political intrigues, saved its satellite from disaster.

    "... According to the opposition, the army is torn apart by strong contradictions, there are frequent cases of desertion, the refusal of officers to obey orders from higher-ranking officials ..." Naturally, everyone has already surrendered, shot themselves, fled, etc.
    "... According to the Turkish press, from the beginning of the conflict to November 2012, a total of more than 40 generals of the Syrian Armed Forces fled from Syria to Turkey ..." - Aha! And also 80 marshals and 160 generalissimos! Why not 100500?

    "... One can only guess about the reasons for the disobedience of the siloviki. They themselves as the main one call the unwillingness to carry out orders that are clearly criminal, from their point of view ..." How's that?
    Officer: "I am giving a criminal order! Start defending the Motherland from the invaders and bandits!" am
    Soldier: "I refuse to carry out a criminal order! I valiantly defect in an unknown direction!" tongue

    "... During the 'Battle of Homs' ... artillery and air strikes are applied, targets ... chosen at random are fired upon by tanks ... men found during the sweeps are considered militants by default - they are subjected to checks and filtering, often tortured and they kill on the slightest suspicion of insurrectionary activity ... "In general, the war and the Germans! Hell and Israel! This company, before writing this nonsense, that "Red Dawn" had seen enough or "Rimbaud-3"?

    To summarize: to make normal articles, it’s not enough to be a graphomaniac and sculpt other people's photos on your writing. Well, if the main thing is this loot, then it will work out like that. And who pays - garbage.
    PS Marat Musin is our everything. fellow
  • His
    His April 7 2013 19: 35
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    frankly anti-Assad article. And for some reason Leontiev’s photo was dragged
  • CCCP-2
    CCCP-2 April 7 2013 21: 01
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    It is urgent !!! sweep away liberal power for RUSSIA is doomed to do the same for the SOVIET UNION !!!
  • connect30
    connect30 April 7 2013 23: 31
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    Horror, there was once a flourishing country. And now the ruins ...
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  • Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy April 8 2013 01: 53
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    The fact that Syria has so far survived the merit of the Syrians themselves, it is foolish to think that there is some merit of China and Russia, if the West could, it would bomb Syria for a long time, it would not be the first time to bomb them without UN sanction. We (the Russian Federation) merged Libya, and Syria will also merge, it’s just bargaining. Russia did not have any significant obstacles to supplying the S-300 to Syria, but Russia did not supply them. It is foolish to think that at present someone is seriously deciding to impose any serious sanctions against the Russian Federation. While oil and gas are sold for bucks and the Euro, serious sanctions from the West can not be thought of. But Russia does not provide any assistance to a friendly country in whose territory the only Navy base is located in the Mediterranean. Iran is the only support of Syria, it is precisely its position that really saves Syria. And the diplomacy of the Russian authorities is a bluff and a show. They stuff on it a cheap rating from the people. Campaigns of our ships too. Israel was not afraid to bomb the laboratory in Syria, and we are afraid to put the S-300. Why am I fixated on the S-300?
    Yes, because NATO is afraid of our S-300s and their strategy is aimed at dominating the air and destroying the enemy’s army at a distance without landing. They are not ready to bear heavy losses in aviation, and the presence of a sufficient number of s-300s from the enemy guarantees these losses.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 April 8 2013 07: 50
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      Sorry, but HOW can Syria's economy survive for two years if its national economy is paralyzed. How else? If gangs of thugs hang around the whole territory, and even in the suburbs of the capital, fighting is underway ?! Without financial assistance, Syria would have long gone bankrupt and could not wage war.
      Further. Syria has long-range complexes, including the old track, but the S-300. Not the fact that they were not modernized. Buki and Pantsiri were installed to protect these complexes. What they could pull on the money, they put it. We do not print green waste paper. Syria needs more passive early warning radars. It is quite possible that their delivery just stopped the "Syrian friends" from declaring a no-fly zone.
      And here's another question, how much C-300 will be enough? It seems to me that the task of long-range air defense systems is not to shoot down ALL enemy aircraft (this is simply impossible), but to force enemy aircraft to abandon the tasks assigned to them by creating a threat of their destruction. In the event of a massive air raid and / or the use of missile defense, long-range systems are covered by short- and medium-range systems.
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN April 23 2013 18: 33
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    So, a repeat of the Libyan scenario? Or is NATO still careful to get into a Syrian fight?