Putin in Novosibirsk: today and tomorrow in the aviation industry

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Last Wednesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Novosibirsk. The purpose of this visit was to visit the local Aviation Production Association. V.P. Chkalov and the meeting "On the status and development prospects of the military aviation Of Russia. ” The date of the visit was the day of the centenary of the birthday of the famous pilot, three times Hero of the Soviet Union A.I. Pokryshkin, a native of Novosibirsk.



The visit began with a trip to the Novosibirsk Aviation Production Association to them. V.P. Chkalov (NAPO). The guide for the Moscow delegation was President of the United Aircraft Building Corporation M. Pogosyan. He led NAPO guests to the workshops and talked about recent successes. Thus, at present, six Su-34 bombers are in the final assembly stage. In total, this year the customer should receive 14 of similar machines. The first aircraft of this type this year will go to serve in the air force in May-month. It is noteworthy that during the final assembly of the new front-line bombers, an original technological approach is applied. Each assembled aircraft alternately passes five so-called. workplaces, each of which produces certain assembly processes. In combination with other production points, this gives a noticeable acceleration of the construction of new equipment.

Another important factor affecting the performance of NAPO was the purchase of new equipment. As the plant director for promising programs A. Kalashnikov said, the commissioning of a mass of new machines and other similar equipment was a direct consequence of the signing of long-term contracts. As a result, not only the full-fledged work of the enterprise was restored, but also the product range. According to Kalashnikov, in the middle of the two thousandth years, NAPO produced the most diverse products for civilian use, right up to rocking chairs. Now, however, long-term contracts up to 2020 of the year allowed to finally return to the production of aircraft only. Such agreements made it possible to timely pay off the subcontractors who supply about 70% of the parts and assemblies of the finished aircraft.

President Putin recalled that the modernization of aviation enterprises, including NAPO, will continue. Before 2020, about five trillion rubles will be spent on the purchase of new equipment for the Air Force, and a considerable part of this money will eventually go into the development of factories. According to the factory workers, at present, the average salary of a NAPO employee is about 30 thousand rubles per month. Probably, the continuation of the modernization of production and all the factors arising from it in the future will significantly increase this figure. In this case, workers will have to make some effort. To work on new machines, they have to undergo retraining and advanced training.

Also, the director of promising programs Kalashnikov told the president about the progress achieved in the supply of finished equipment. To date, about thirty Su-34 bombers have been transferred to the Air Force. According to Kalashnikov, the customer has no complaints about the quality of NAPO products. All existing claims relate to electronics and other aviation equipment supplied by third parties. Interestingly, the Novosibirsk Aviation Production Association already knows about potential foreign buyers of Su-34 aircraft. Nevertheless, at first these bombers will be staffed by the Russian Air Force and only then deliveries abroad are possible.

At the beginning of the meeting, on the prospects for combat aviation, V. Putin once again recalled how responsible the current state rearmament program is, designed until 2020. According to the president, our country now has an excellent, but extremely rare historical a chance to fulfill all the plans. The defense industry faces very difficult tasks, but there is enough money. The President believes that the current state program is a very responsible and not ordinary work. If the available opportunities are missed, then there may be no other chance. That is what Putin said must be kept in mind all the time.

Putin considers the interaction between the defense industry and the Ministry of Defense to be another important point that directly affects the implementation of the program. With all their differences, they must work together at all stages of the creation of weapons and equipment. This interaction becomes especially important in the light of the rare opportunity mentioned earlier. Only in this way will it be possible to bring the share of new technology to the required 70 percent. Now only about 20% of all aviation equipment in the army can be attributed to this category.

According to the president, to ensure the required performance, the defense industry must simultaneously produce products already mastered in production and modernize production lines, creating a reserve for the future. Such a change in production while maintaining the current pace will undoubtedly be quite a complicated matter. But, as Putin noted, it is quite realizable. An example of such work is the Novosibirsk aircraft plant. The president expects the same actions from other enterprises of the military-industrial complex. The state, in turn, is ready to provide the necessary support.

Regarding the creation of new aviation technology, President V. Putin expressed a rather interesting, though obvious, thought. He believes that new designs should be created with a foundation for the future and therefore be the best in the world. If you focus on the existing foreign models of technology and take them as an example, the lag will be inevitable. According to a figurative expression, tomorrow it turns out that the existing own equipment is outdated, and tonight will have to start a new project. Therefore, it is necessary not only to follow world trends, but also to try to create them, looking at a few steps forward.

At the end of the visit, the President laid flowers to the bust of the pilot-ace three times Hero of the Soviet Union A.I. Pokryshkina. The second most effective fighter pilot of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition was born exactly one hundred years ago in the pre-revolutionary Novonikolaevsk. During the anniversary events several concerts took place, and another bust of the famous pilot was opened at the Marshal Pokryshkina metro station.


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  1. Zhzhuk
    0
    9 March 2013 08: 57
    I don’t know much about aviation, this is the question - if a scorer meets a very aggressive fighter in the sky, who will survive? In general, it would not be a bad article on the interaction of different branches of the army, and in particular the specifics of aviation
    1. djon3volta
      -6
      9 March 2013 09: 38
      Quote: Zhzhuk
      if the scorer meets a very aggressive fighter in the sky, who will survive?

      The SU-34 is a fighter bomber in one bottle. If you consider that the SU-34 can load 8 tons of bombs, then without them it could well maneuver and shoot a conventional fighter from a machine gun.
      1. avt
        +2
        9 March 2013 09: 49
        Quote: djon3volta
        The SU-34 is a fighter bomber in one bottle. If you consider that the SU-34 can load 8 tons of bombs, then without them it could well maneuver and shoot a conventional fighter from a machine gun.

        No, great front-line bomber good .
      2. +15
        9 March 2013 11: 21
        and shoot an ordinary fighter from a machine gun.

        I think he will not shoot a fighter from a "machine gun" in any way, if only a piston, during the Second World War, and even then it is unlikely, since it does not have a machine gun
      3. +7
        9 March 2013 12: 34
        Quote: djon3volta
        fighter bomber

        In fact, the more familiar and used phrase is a fighter-bomber. Those exist, but a fighter bomber armed with a machine gun (!) Is something new in aviation laughing
        1. +2
          9 March 2013 16: 54
          Normalek! For the classification of aircraft of the first world will go. A la Newpore, Farman, Fokker, etc. wink
          1. +2
            9 March 2013 17: 24
            Quote: LiSSyara
            For the classification of aircraft of the first world will go

            Quote: Normal
            this is something new in aviation

            Sorry - cheated. Rather, the long-forgotten old, because there was the Yu-88 bomber in the variant of a night fighter. True, there was still a MG-FF gun
            1. +4
              9 March 2013 20: 04
              In general, the history of twin-engine cars is very interesting (including our Petlyakov-2). For what purpose, purpose, etc., how they were made - I have a gift book in German (a bunch of authors, including ours. Including Yakovlev, Lavochkin, Mikoyan). They transferred it to me, it turns out - I will transfer it to fb format and where I will drop the thread. But the translation is a little stupid.
      4. +1
        9 March 2013 15: 41
        Quote: djon3volta
        then without them, he could well maneuver and shoot a conventional fighter from a machine gun.

        Su-34 replaced the troops of the Su-24!
        1. +5
          9 March 2013 17: 10
          I haven’t replaced yet. But I would really like to quickly. The SU-24 is a good bird, it will serve another 10-15 years))))
          1. +1
            9 March 2013 18: 33
            Quote: regin
            I haven’t replaced yet. But I would very much like to quickly.

            And soon it will not replace. The report says that the production of one aircraft takes 2 months. So we would have 200 pieces ................ It will take decades
            1. +3
              9 March 2013 19: 16
              Two months. Excellent .... only you do not forget that the SU-34 is being assembled on other slipways .... There are staff, and everyone does not rush to one aircraft.
          2. Avenger711
            0
            11 March 2013 12: 51
            No, the Su-24M will be decommissioned by 2020, and this is quite realistic. Su-24M2 will probably last another five years, but there are very few of them.
      5. +1
        10 March 2013 00: 31
        What machine gun? fool
    2. 0
      9 March 2013 11: 06
      Quote: Zhzhuk

      I don’t know much about aviation, this is the question - if a scorer meets a very aggressive fighter in the sky, who will survive? In general, it would not be a bad article on the interaction of different branches of the army, and in particular the specifics of aviation

      I heard for a long time that it is possible to put air-to-air melee missiles on it, as I understood it to deal with exterminators.
    3. +5
      9 March 2013 11: 37
      1. The aircraft is built on the basis of the Su-27 airframe.
      2. There are no machine guns on it. There is an aircraft gun of the GSh-30 type (air force index 9A4071K). If I am wrong, pilots, correct me.
      3. It carries BB-class missiles. Is that the P-37, he "does not hawala". Not his purpose. For this there are MiG-31BM and Su-35.
      1. VAF
        VAF
        +13
        9 March 2013 13: 44
        Quote: LiSSyara
        If I am wrong, pilots, correct me.


        Hi Seryozha! Gun (the best gun in the world good ) GSh-301 with 180 rounds of ammunition.



        Quote: LiSSyara
        He carries missiles of class BB.


        Very competent, +! exactly .. "carries" ... yet wink Although the 73rd can with the Slit .. very easy, but the 27th and 77th ........ well, I think they will bring in the end bully

        1. +2
          9 March 2013 13: 51
          Serega, hello!
          I agree completely. Well, it’s not his job to gain supremacy in the air.
          Well, the same thing is that the F-111 and Su-24M will start to drive fighters.
          For him, these are defensive weapons, like ... well, like, "scare" helicopters.
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +9
            9 March 2013 14: 28
            Quote: LiSSyara
            For him, these are defensive weapons, like ... well, like, "scare" helicopters.


            Well .. like ... that .. helicopters ... UAVs ... when you meet "unexpected" you can and .. "frontline" to fill up wink

            And so komenty men today ...... "shoot himself" .. you don't even know what to do ..... laughing or crying , well, it’s understandable ... after the holiday .. all the same.

            I ... as I read ... ah ... "smoked" wassat



            You will definitely have to .... go "recover" drinks and on the advice of friends .... not a glass, but "Tselninka" lol
            1. +1
              9 March 2013 14: 38
              Good health)))) Is this 747 so bright? It doesn't seem like a fire ... but the photo is valid))))
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +4
                9 March 2013 15: 12
                Quote: regin
                Good health)))) Is this 747 so bright? It doesn't seem like a fire


                Hi Volodya ..... I answer in order-backlight (a bit of photoshop) -winter, night, watered with an anti-icer! wink

            2. +9
              9 March 2013 15: 28
              I already chewed a bottle of Akhtamar under lemon and chocolate.
              My son, an officer, sits and laughs at the comments, and is related to space, not the Air Force.
              Now the truth "child" sent for rum, because the bar is not. We decided to remember the USSR)))
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +8
                9 March 2013 15: 43
                Quote: LiSSyara
                I already chewed a bottle of Akhtamar under lemon and chocolate.


                Well, I .. remember .. like in the movie wink ... "on the advice of friends ..." wassat especially since yesterday .. everything went on fellow and half are happy good debriefing ... by type ... such ... there wasn’t laughing




                Quote: LiSSyara
                Now the truth "child" sent for rum, because the bar is not. We decided to remember the USSR)))



                Well, it's easier for you ... but it's already spring here and they don't let out on the street without .. "escort" .... nizya says wassat

                1. +2
                  9 March 2013 15: 53
                  No, mine has changed from duty today. So they and the ladies decided to clean up the bar. And periodically "patch" in the monitor fusses))).
                  More truly, ladies separately, men separately. It’s a pity there is no neighbor, so they would paint a bullet.
            3. +3
              9 March 2013 15: 44
              Quote: vaf
              not a glass, but "Tselninka"

              A hangover is the second booze! Be careful! laughing
              1. +2
                9 March 2013 15: 47
                This is a correction of health))) Moreover, the day off tomorrow)))
        2. +1
          9 March 2013 15: 42
          Quote: vaf
          with BC 180 shells.

          Not enough .........
          1. +1
            9 March 2013 15: 48
            A feature of aircraft cannons. If memory serves, there is a "cutter" for 9 shells.
          2. +1
            9 March 2013 15: 58
            SU-27/35 has 150 of them and this is more than enough for him ... a good pilot spends about five shells on a target.
            1. +1
              9 March 2013 16: 03
              queen
              a good pilot spends on the target about five shells ...

              There for half a second flies 12 :))
              1. +2
                9 March 2013 16: 15
                I wrote about the cutter above. I don’t remember exactly, but it seems 9 shells.
                1. +2
                  9 March 2013 16: 24
                  Lissyara
                  Sergei, somewhere I met information that amers, before putting the Raptor on the line, tested its glider for resistance to the GSh-301 OFZ.
                  Is it as if the wunderwaffle was completely chocolate, just in case? :))
                  Or do they allow a higher probability of melee using a gun?
                  1. +1
                    9 March 2013 16: 30
                    There is always a chance, otherwise they would have refused the gun (as in the 60s)
                  2. +2
                    9 March 2013 16: 48
                    On "catching up" to the rear hemisphere of the 22nd, the Su-35 (if there is a sniper pilot behind the handle) will simply make a colander out of it, with the same 180 shells.
                    1. +4
                      9 March 2013 16: 58
                      Yes, it seems to me if the F-22 pilot finds out that the SU-35 is in this zone, then filling the diaper will look for the nearest airfield)))))) joke
    4. -8
      9 March 2013 11: 53
      Without air cover, the Su-34 is doomed. His own radar is weak, so he just will not see the enemy. The car is very heavy and there will be problems with maneuvering. For comparison, the Su-35 has a normal take-off weight of 25 tons, while the Su-34 has 38 tons. At the same time, the Su-34 engines cost less power.
      1. +5
        9 March 2013 11: 58
        25700 kg - this is at the minimum refueling, in the configuration "air superiority". And in general, then 34200 kg, taking into account that it can carry a combat load of 8450 kg.
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +9
          9 March 2013 14: 08
          Quote: LiSSyara
          25700 kg is at minimum fueling, in an air superiority configuration.


          Seryoga, I'll correct it a little .... these "numbers" were only on M,



          and on serial "C" -kah - normal G hack. this is 25300 kg, taking into account weapons (2 x R-77, 2 x R-73) and at 50% refueling wink pr and take off at the IBRF fellow

          A G max. is 34 500 kg

          With air-to-air loading ...



          Or ... "combined" .... drinks





          Or .. "practically" .. earthly "version ...

          1. +1
            9 March 2013 15: 06
            I meant M-ku. What is sewn into the onboard "Mushroom".
      2. VAF
        VAF
        +13
        9 March 2013 13: 30
        Quote: Nayhas
        Without air cover, the Su-34 is doomed.


        Any fighter-bomber and front-line bomber a priori always loses a "pure" air battle to a fighter!
        ALWAYS and in any COUNTRY!

        So even comparing ..... is not correct hi

        Quote: Nayhas
        His own radar is weak, so he just will not see the enemy.


        The Su-34 has a GORGEOUS radar, but it is only designed to work ... on the ground, but ... that they are trying to "hang" the functions of the "air-to-air mode" on it .... in the end .. " ".. I hope.


        Quote: Nayhas
        For comparison, the Su-35 has a normal take-off weight of 25 tons, while the Su-34 has 38 tons.



        But what are you talking about ???? belay
        1. 0
          9 March 2013 14: 15
          I don’t understand why they buy Su-34. If Su-35 or Su-30SM are MFIs and can hit objects on the ground, water, air. The load is the same 8 tons. Why do we need narrowly targeted cars. There are attack aircraft and helicopters for the battlefield. And for the rest, the world uses multifunctional machines. We have them.
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +6
            9 March 2013 14: 42
            Quote: andrei
            I don’t understand why they are buying Su-34


            Andrey. Already 1000 times on the site "moved" on this issue ..... soreness has already filled.

            Take a pencil yourself and write yourself a number ... it will be more clear:
            Empty weight + weight is the weight of domestic fuel, take the maximum take-off weight and take away from it what happened from the first two components of the weapon .... this will be the result ... how much you can take Cargo see and all questions are removed wink

            Quote: andrei
            And for the rest, the world uses multifunctional machines.


            The whole world is yes, but here ... unfortunately ... not yet ... everything is in the "stage".

            Quote: andrei
            We have them.


            No ... for the first time there will be Su-30SM (if the containers are brought in), and so ... so far only the MiG-35, which again ... will only be in the series and then, at the expense of the 2nd OLS-UME, but that's it equal .. she is much "inferior" to both Damocles and Lightning wink

            But on the Su-34 there is ... OLTPS, it is true Platan, but still better than Kaira (which is very good), but the fighters listed by you 30Sm and 35 are ... extremely necessary "bells and whistles" for work on land ... they don't have yet! drinks
            1. Avenger711
              0
              11 March 2013 13: 03
              F-15E bombers also do not have these bells and whistles.

              And where does the MiG-35? Its capabilities are determined by the same containers. There is no container, so even a light MiG-35, even a heavy two-seater Su-30SM (in my opinion, the plug in the absence of significant quantities of Su-35, it’s infuriating specifically with PGO alone) is equally useless as bombers.
          2. +3
            9 March 2013 16: 58
            Quote: andrei
            We have them too

            Ask Poghosyan where we have them.
            1. Avenger711
              0
              11 March 2013 12: 57
              Not Poghosyan, but our military, for whom something is not glory to God.
          3. Avenger711
            0
            11 March 2013 12: 56
            Because the rest of the world is rogue.
        2. 0
          10 March 2013 10: 28
          Hello Veteran! I very much hope that the Su 34 will still be brought to mind, even if not today, but there are chances. I don’t understand only one thing - why VVP flew to Novosibirsk, putting the entire MAP on the “ears”.
      3. +2
        9 March 2013 16: 57
        Quote: Nayhas

        Without air cover, the Su-34 is doomed

        For the Su-34, a specialized electronic warfare aircraft is needed more. It can be based on the same Su-34. And anti-radar missiles need to produce more.
        As for the radar, it’s just normal. And you still won’t make a multi-role fighter out of it.
    5. 0
      9 March 2013 12: 08
      the question is off topic.
      WHY PUTIN IS NOT IN KARACAS?
      LUKASHENKO there.
      Is Pogosyan's fairy tales more important?
      goodbye ugo. it’s a pity that we do not have such a president.
      1. djon3volta
        -2
        9 March 2013 12: 30
        Quote: kris
        WHY PUTIN IS NOT IN KARACAS?

        Do you want Putin to be infected with cancer as well as Chavez? You never know why Putin didn’t go, maybe for these reasons he was dissuaded by IMHO.
        1. 0
          9 March 2013 12: 34
          Quote: djon3volta
          Do you want Putin to be infected with cancer as well as Chavez? You never know why Putin didn’t go, maybe for these reasons he was dissuaded by IMHO.


          But what about the boys going under the bullets in the Caucasus?

          but Lukashenko did not piss !!!
          that's why they call him "BATKA"!

          1. djon3volta
            0
            9 March 2013 12: 56
            Quote: kris
            LUKASHENKO did not piss !!!

            Lukashenko is a less significant political figure on the world stage than Putin, and he knows this very well. Lukashenko doesn’t interfere with the Americans and therefore will not poison him. If Lukashenko had as much oil in the bowels of Belarus as Venezuela, imagine what kind of pressure he would have experienced, I’m sure he would shoot rallies from machine guns laughing a joke ... why are Lukashenko afraid? If he was afraid, he would ride in an armored train as a comrade from the DPRK.
            1. +4
              9 March 2013 13: 12
              Quote: djon3volta
              Lukashenko is a less significant political figure on the world stage than Putin

              laughing
              Ahmadinejad is there too.
              Although there is a difficult situation around Iran !!
              1. politruk419
                -2
                10 March 2013 05: 21
                And since when did Ahmadinijad become the first person in Iran? He doesn’t solve too much there .... the council of ayatollah will have a dozen candidates in its place within ten minutes.
          2. itkul
            0
            9 March 2013 15: 16
            Quote: kris
            but Lukashenko did not piss !!!
            that's why they call him "BATKA"!


            I saw Lukashenko on TV with a boy, hence the question, what kind of child is this
            1. +1
              9 March 2013 20: 32
              Quote: itkul
              I saw Lukashenko on TV with a boy, hence the question, what kind of child is this

              The half-son, the third, the youngest.
          3. +1
            10 March 2013 14: 52
            President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko flew to Venezuela. The video below does not need comments.

      2. +7
        9 March 2013 12: 40
        Sechin there, it seems to me that Putin in Tikhorya is still doing what is needed to support Maduro, otherwise there would be an iPhone sticking out and the sense of it is like a goat’s milk
        1. +6
          9 March 2013 12: 50
          Quote: vadson
          Sechin there


          They are afraid for their oil grandmothers.
          And I meant a simple human relationship to the deceased GREAT MAN. what was UGO !!!

          09.03.2013/12/21, Moscow 07:XNUMX:XNUMX am Members of the Russian delegation who went to Venezuela for the funeral of the President of this country, Hugo Chavez, - the president of NK Rosneft, Igor Sechin, and the head of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, - held talks with the acting president of Venezuela Nicholas Maduro and discussed further prospects for cooperation between the two countries in the energy sector, Channel One reports.
          1. djon3volta
            +14
            9 March 2013 13: 37
            Quote: kris
            Igor Sechin and the head of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, held talks with the Acting President of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, and discussed further prospects for cooperation between the two countries in the energy sector

            and they’re doing it right! meanwhile:
            Yesterday, Dmitry Gudkov, instead of working in the State Duma and defending the interests of his voters, took part in an event that was held in Washington, discussing with the Americans the economic development of our country after the coup. Apparently, Dmitry wants to be a representative of Washington in the State Duma and protect American interests. But this is nothing more than his fantasy, which must be debunked.
            Sechin and Gudkov have different interests. Sechin’s interests and negotiations are closer than Gudkov’s interests and negotiations.
            1. +7
              9 March 2013 14: 26
              not to let Gudkov go back, and here all assets will be confiscated for treason, they will want to prove it, they will prove it, remember the video from Georgia with bulk? after all
            2. 0
              9 March 2013 23: 46
              Link please.
              Preferably a video.
          2. +7
            9 March 2013 14: 36
            of course not in patsansky ugo not to conduct but who knows the whole situation, remember the eighth of August - the Beijing Olympics and at that time in the Caucasus, what happened? The snot-current iPhone was chewing until Putin figured out the situation, I would not want a repeat of the situation, especially in Syria, right now, a mess. let the trusted person go there. if Venezuela wouldn’t be a geopolitical ally, an iPhone would go there and let Sechin protect his grandmothers, but he will protect them if the chávez receiver is in power, so most likely the steam locomotive goes along the right route, two Americans were thrown out of the country, which means there are maduro egg
      3. 755962
        +5
        9 March 2013 15: 02
        Quote: kris
        WHY PUTIN IS NOT IN KARACAS?

        Because he was in Vologda!
        Russian President Vladimir Putin arrived in Vologda on Thursday, where he will hold a meeting on light industry.

        See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/russia/news.asp?id=294443
      4. mankurt
        -15
        9 March 2013 15: 09
        Not in the frame - because on HEELS !!!!

        1. +2
          9 March 2013 22: 41
          Isn’t it nasty? Maybe you’ll take an interest in underwear? But to criticize, you have your own president, so sharpen your wits about him. And we will sort things out with our own. We also did not have enough advisers because of the hill ...
        2. -1
          10 March 2013 00: 50
          What exactly did you want to say with this comment ??? Even if he doesn’t think in high heels that it’s none of your business?
      5. DPN
        +5
        9 March 2013 20: 17
        Hugo Chavez, built socialism and the poor part of the population voted for it. And we have wild capitalism. Not compatible systems, there for the poor and Unas ??
        1. Avenger711
          -1
          11 March 2013 13: 06
          We have in fact state capitalism.
          1. 0
            23 March 2013 10: 03
            You are mistaken. We have a parasitic oligarchic-bureaucratic-gangster capitalism.
    6. +2
      9 March 2013 12: 08
      He can fend for himself (he saw somewhere in the video), but he won’t get involved, he has different tasks.
    7. +2
      9 March 2013 12: 09
      whoever sees first will survive.
    8. 0
      9 March 2013 16: 35
      It can’t, just fly away quickly, as it was in 08.08.08. Su-25 identity against the Georgian migrants seemed to be.
    9. 0
      9 March 2013 17: 19
      Quote: Zhzhuk
      if the scorer meets a very aggressive fighter in the sky, who will survive?

      It is better for each to carry out his combat mission, including that the fighter would not meet with an unguarded bomber with full combat.
  2. sashka
    -25
    9 March 2013 09: 09
    And Pokryshkin flew on an Amer plane .. Unfortunately, the Article is a big minus ..
    1. ObnaPur
      +19
      9 March 2013 09: 30
      Pokryshkin. Before the war and in 1941 - I15, I153 and I16, then MiG3, Yak1; in 1942 (and until the end of the war) - mainly the American fighter P38-G1 and P-39 Aero Cobra. After the war - on almost all types of Soviet military aircraft
    2. avt
      +8
      9 March 2013 09: 47
      Quote: Sasha
      And Pokryshkin flew on an Amer plane .. Unfortunately, the Article is a big minus.

      In fact, before putting the minus one had to ask about the Hero's biography. You would learn a lot of interesting things, including a list of the types of cars on which he fought.
    3. +5
      9 March 2013 10: 02
      Well, Comrade Pokryshkin seems to have clearly explained what he likes about AeroCobra :)))
      High-quality radio station.
      1. +1
        9 March 2013 12: 29
        Quote: BigRiver
        High-quality radio station.
        Is it only her? And weapons? .... Or are you .... joking?
        1. +3
          9 March 2013 13: 52
          Normal (1)
          Is it only her? And weapons? .... Or are you .... joking?

          No, I'm not joking. This was his very first reaction to a question in a post-war interview.
          He spoke a little about weapons in his memoirs. But, as I recall, without much enthusiasm.
          Yes, the M-6 was powerful. But, she’s a cannon of low ballistics and low rate of fire.
          In general, it was postponed that there were pros and cons.
    4. +5
      9 March 2013 11: 43
      Have you tried to read the book "One MiG out of a thousand ..." and from the series ZhZL "Pokryshkin"?
      I'm just a school for them. A.I. Pokryshkina was finishing.
      BigRiver correctly explained, only add that the Bell P-39 Airacobra was armed with a 20mm or 37mm gun (A.I. Pokryshkin had 37 mm), and a pair (or 4) of a 12,7 mm machine gun).
      For comparison - in 1941 they fought with tanks by 45mm cannons.
      1. +1
        9 March 2013 13: 56
        Lissyara
        Yes, he flew with the M-6 and two Browning.

        For comparison - in 1941 they fought with tanks by 45mm cannons.
        Well, what is right only in the 41st? :)
        45-ku by the summer of 43 modernized (M-42). And the whole war went to the VET.
        Side Panthers from 300 meters completely took. With a favorable angle of the meeting.
        1. +2
          9 March 2013 14: 14
          By the way, we’ll break away at MAKS 2013.
          100th anniversary of A.I. Pokryshkina
          In April, 60 years KVIRTU them. A.I. Pokryshkina
          San Sanych Pokryshkin acts as the organizer))) As usual, we will put our tent)))

          Vladimir, I'm figurative.
          Well, do not cite as an example the "flying cannon" around which the A-10 Thunderboltine was created)))
    5. +15
      9 March 2013 12: 03
      But Kozhedub flew on a Soviet plane, and what of this?
      It’s important not whose plane, but who the pilot is ...
      1. +2
        9 March 2013 12: 18
        By 1943, Lavochkin’s aircraft became normal technology. There are no questions. Ivan Nikitich gave wonderful interviews, I have a record, one that was not released on TV.
        As the right pilot, with matyuzhkom)))
    6. 0
      9 March 2013 22: 45
      And what's the difference on whose plane he flew? If you are on ours, show the same level? Something is doubtful ... Therefore, minus not the article, but to you.
  3. +1
    9 March 2013 09: 30
    I did not put a minus or a plus on the article, one thing annoys Poghosyan's face, well, he is not Mikoyan, not Mikoyan. This is his advertised useless "Pogost-100" (or cemetery -100). This United Aircraft Corporation seized everything. Poghosyan can do everything and fighters and bombers and liners - well, just a hero of Russia
    1. djon3volta
      +4
      9 March 2013 10: 01
      Quote: valokordin
      This is his advertised useless "Pogost-100"

      not grateful you, oh not grateful .. No.

      The sixth visit to Komsomolsk-on-Amur and the KNAAZ aviation plant took place in less than five years after my last visit here, when the plant was still called KnAAPO. When the production of Superjets began, I visited here every six months as a Tass photojournalist.
      There are nine aircraft in the workshop today. In this photograph, six are visible and three more are hiding behind the wall.
      Under the cut 50 photos.
      http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/30109/
    2. +3
      9 March 2013 10: 07
      Quote: valokordin
      annoying is Pogosyan’s face, well, he’s not Mikoyan, not Mikoyan

      At one time, Asatryan was at AZLK, he also did everything and different; from "Oleko" to "Prince Vladimir" He also had a benefactor in power - Luzhkov. Also dough mastered not measured. As a result, the plant had to be sold to Renault.
      The aircraft industry is certainly not automotive. but some analogies hold
      1. evil hamster
        +7
        9 March 2013 11: 40
        But only the Sukhoi Design Bureau in general and Simonov and Poghosyan in particular were not noticed in the sale of their design bureau, unlike ... (I will not stir up) And they earned money for their company, their factories and the country in general by building and selling planes. It is a pity that other design bureaus did not have their own "poghosyans" in the 90s and early 2000s.
        1. +2
          9 March 2013 12: 23
          Quote: evil hamster
          ... It is a pity that other design bureaus did not have their own "poghosyans" in the 90s and early 2000s.
          I agree. Perhaps I got excited. "Sukhoi" is alive and well, MAPO MIG, alas, vegetates (if it still exists). I won't argue with you about Poghosyan's personality, there are more knowledgeable and competent commentators on the site. I think they have a slightly different opinion of Poghosyan than you
          1. evil hamster
            +4
            9 March 2013 12: 58
            Let me explain to understand my position. I do not think that Oslanych is fundamentally different from the current top managers in terms of honesty, etc. I think he does not forget himself beloved, but he does not stand out in this regard. But honestly, I don’t care - the main thing is to do the job. As the head of the UAC, he is at least the first and among other state corporations, in my opinion, the only professional. An aircraft designer in charge of aircraft construction - this hour is not very typical, now more and more "managers" of a wide profile are held in high esteem, theorists of business processes, so to speak.
            I think that they have a slightly different opinion about Poghosyan than you
            Undoubtedly have a right to it, I’m not saying that my opinion is the only true one wink
          2. +3
            9 March 2013 17: 31
            Normal MAPO MIG, alas, vegetates (if it still exists).

            “The most stable enterprises of the UAC structure are those that provide the bulk of production - these are enterprises operating in the segment of military aircraft. This is the leader of the United Aircraft Corporation - the Sukhoi company and the second backbone company - the Irkut corporation. The situation at RSK MiG has changed significantly: to 2012 RSK MiG came out with a revenue of about 20 billion rubles, which already allows us to say that MiG will soon become the same stable structure in the UAC, "said Mr. Pogosyan.
      2. +2
        9 March 2013 11: 45
        Quote: Normal
        As a result, it was necessary to sell the area of ​​the Renault plant.


        Yesterday I saw an advertisement driving past a factory in Tekstilshchiki. Requires workers on the conveyor 2030rub. norm / hour. There are not enough assembly mechanics, as an example of the collapse of vocational education since the beginning of the 90s. The same picture in almost all industries, including the military-industrial complex, the elderly leave, young people are mainly economists and lawyers.
      3. +9
        9 March 2013 11: 46
        And we laughed about the AZLK .... After the "Princes ...", "Duets", all that was left was to release the Grigory Rasputin minivan and the Ivan Susanin SUV.
    3. evil hamster
      +4
      9 March 2013 11: 32
      My dear man, Poghosyan is at least an accomplished designer and obviously a good leader for his company, and at least it would be worth respecting him. Ask yourself: Have you personally achieved in your profession at least a tenth of what Poghosyan achieved in his profession?
      1. +7
        9 March 2013 11: 48
        I will say it simply.
        They do not like him in aviation, but he is really a talented manager.
        1. Avenger711
          +1
          11 March 2013 13: 08
          It is necessary to blame someone for their failures and complete lack of talent.
      2. +2
        9 March 2013 12: 15
        All the Sukhoi Design Bureau machines due to which the company is developing now are created under Mikhail Petrovich Simonov. Poghosyan became famous only as a Superjet, but this glory is somewhat thin.
        1. evil hamster
          +3
          9 March 2013 12: 26
          Quote: Nayhas
          All machines of Sukhoi Design Bureau due to which the company is developing now are created under Mikhail Petrovich Simonov
          Undoubtedly, however, Uncle Pogo also passed by there, like the rest of the KB team wink
          Quote: Nayhas
          Poghosyan became famous only as a Superjet, but this glory is somewhat thin
          Oh yes, he is a heretic for the survival and stable future of his design bureau. He dared not crawl into his sandbox, he’s a villain, let’s lower him niprastim
      3. sleepy
        +6
        9 March 2013 13: 16
        Does Poghosyan know everything about calibrating roll and pitch damper devices?
        In addition to Poghosyan, many who have achieved and held in the aviation industry of the USSR starting from turners, milling machines, assemblers
        installers with a personal brand and to leading designers-technologists in their specialization,
        working on the creation of aviation.
        And where are they now? After joining the WTO ?.

        “Unfortunately, recently there has been an extremely dangerous tendency of thoughtless lobbying of the interests of the domestic aircraft building complex on the part of government agencies.
        Please support the issue of the inadmissibility of the serial launch of the TU-204 aircraft on Russian air routes
        and the continuation of the doctrine of leasing advanced Western aircraft. "
        (Letter from the Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation for Economics A. Livshits to the Government of the Russian Federation NA-1 1268Л dated April 3, 1995).

        "To make a decision on full exemption from customs duties for a period of five years,
        duties and taxes of Boeing - 750 aircraft, Douglas-DS10 aircraft imported into the Russian Federation
        in 1994 - 1995 and operated on domestic and international airlines. "
        (Order of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation V. Chernomyrdin N 1489Р of October 7, 1996).

        Stepan Sulakshin. "Treason."
        http://lib.guru.ua/POLITOLOG/sulakshin.txt
        In the book, a study of a famous Russian politician and scientist, the state of the real mechanism of state governance of Russia in the 90s is studied.
        A professionally planned, global and focused on the implementation of national security, national interests of the United States and its satellite countries, mechanism for managing Russia from abroad is described in detail.

        Has anything changed for the better after joining the WTO?
        1. sleepy
          +6
          9 March 2013 13: 30
          "... President Putin recalled that the modernization of aviation enterprises, including NAPO, will continue.
          Until 2020, about five trillion rubles will be spent on the purchase of new equipment for the Air Force
          and a considerable part of this money will eventually go to the development of factories ... "

          Is it about all aviation enterprises, or is it just about Poghosyan?

          Based on materials from prosecutorial checks in the field of state defense order Prosecutor General's Office Started
          more than 5,5 thousand criminal cases.
          http://flotprom.ru/news/?ELEMENT_ID=139959

          It remains to wait how these things will end.
          That's because Serdyukov was first removed from office, and then summoned for interrogation,
          where he as a civilian with his lawyer and keeps quiet like a civilian.
          And if summoned as Minister of Defense, he would have to answer questions.
          That would be a precedent!
    4. +4
      9 March 2013 11: 34
      valokordin

      It's just that there is no Gurevich with him.
  4. dimarm74
    +5
    9 March 2013 09: 33
    Putin says everything is correct, but in reality .... Where is the real fight against corruption ???
    1. doctor3006
      +3
      9 March 2013 13: 43
      He cannot fight with himself.
    2. +2
      9 March 2013 22: 58
      dimarm74,
      Here's a laugh on a stick, honestly ... Speech in an article about an aircraft plant, am I not mistaken? No, again, like a hackneyed record, "corruption" "corruption" Maybe there are still thoughts on the topic? whether...
  5. niskifss
    0
    9 March 2013 10: 19
    if su 34 cannot get into the fighter from a machine gun, then the pilot always has pm.
    1. nikasan
      0
      9 March 2013 10: 51
      To combat air targets, there are airborne-class missiles, and the gun, mainly on ground targets, to shoot down balloons, balloons and other slow-flying targets with shells with corresponding fuses. By air - this is a last resort.
      1. +2
        9 March 2013 19: 31
        and the gun, mainly on ground targets,

        Well you are cool, from a cannon on a fighter on the "ground" to chase wassat . Do you have time to aim and shoot?
  6. +4
    9 March 2013 10: 32
    What kind of machine guns, guys?
    There, on the SU-34, finally Gryazeva-Shipunova 30 mm stands :))
    Like the MiG-29 and Su-27.
    1. evil hamster
      +1
      9 March 2013 12: 16
      Here is such a hefty chthonic bulletproof laughing Can overcome laughing
  7. GHG
    GHG
    +10
    9 March 2013 11: 34
    Now the VAF will come and grab your head from your comments laughing
    1. +9
      9 March 2013 11: 57
      Quote: GES
      Now the VAF will come and grab your head from your comments


      Rather, for a glass, because it is perceived hard on a sober head ...
      1. +2
        9 March 2013 12: 25
        Ascetic, I already threw on Akhtamarchik’s chest)))
      2. +3
        9 March 2013 12: 26
        Quote: Ascetic
        Rather, for a glass, because it is perceived hard on a sober head ...
        What a sober head, Stanislav, yesterday, on the 8 of March. So for the glass anyway laughing
        1. +5
          9 March 2013 13: 04
          Quote: Normal
          What a sober head, Stanislav, yesterday, on the 8 of March. So for the glass anyway


          I remember how we were shooting from the PM on March 9th (it came to someone's head) ... the shooting started unsuccessfully at first, but "we had ourselves" so the second approach to the line brought tangible results drinks
          1. +3
            9 March 2013 13: 20
            To whom did it come to mind? Shooting after the holiday?
            At least in my childhood I was engaged in biathlon (CCM), but here in the school I took a 4m course (doing triathlon-pentathlon), after the holidays in a dash from PM 10 I stuffed a maximum of 80 (taking into account that my hands did not shake, but my brains refused)) )))
            1. +5
              9 March 2013 14: 03
              Quote: LiSSyara
              To whom did it come to mind? Shooting after the holiday?


              I even remember year 1998, just 9 was a working day. And in the army, there are always three obstacles-hollows, hollows and dolbyotyatly .. The first two are overcome and the last is insurmountable.
              1. +1
                9 March 2013 15: 15
                Well, as in Russia, three troubles:
                1. Roads
                2 fools
                3. Fools on the road)))
                1. +1
                  9 March 2013 16: 49
                  Hahaha not only in Russia but also in all countries of the world and Poland also
                  1. politruk419
                    0
                    10 March 2013 05: 39
                    Long time ago you guys were not in China. Here you immediately start to fear, but not the fools but the Chinese driving! There are no rules at all ......
      3. +2
        9 March 2013 17: 11
        Quote: Ascetic
        Rather, for a glass, because it is perceived hard on a sober head ...

        +1000 laughing
        1. 0
          9 March 2013 23: 03
          gram? or something else? drinks
  8. +2
    9 March 2013 11: 50
    People, even here!
    Well, you can’t drink so much on a women's day to carry complete nonsense.
    http://www.aviaport.ru/directory/aviation/su34/
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    1. +6
      9 March 2013 12: 23
      Hi!
      I am again with uniform, and rarely go here, only on weekends. I’m just wiping out for service at 6, and at home at 23-00.
      By the way, on February 9 I was at a meeting of the K-306 crews. Photo in the article about "Underwater ram".
      By the way, I was presented with a hip scarf "K-306. 40 years. West Face. Northern Fleet" in the color of "Zenith".
      1. +1
        9 March 2013 16: 28
        Scarf. Since the anniversary of 2009. Unfortunately, I was not there then. The boat is my age)
    2. +2
      9 March 2013 16: 29
      Well, one more image.
  10. +1
    9 March 2013 12: 04
    Even from far away, the landing gear is impressive good new bombers are good, they would have even more fighters twice (new)
    1. VAF
      VAF
      0
      9 March 2013 15: 16
      Quote: regin
      new bombers are good


      Exactly, but even better ..... it became when the price was lowered by 250 million rubles ..... that's good, right away and ... the real "order" went .. without any .. options ... drinks

      [img] http://paralay.iboards.ru/download/file.php?id=15847&mode=view [/ img]
    2. VAF
      VAF
      +3
      9 March 2013 15: 20
      Quote: regin
      new bombers are good




      Exactly, but even better ..... it became when the price was lowered by 250 million rubles ..... that's good, right away and ... the real "order" went .. without any .. options ... drinks
      1. +1
        9 March 2013 15: 33
        I think if the state gave the go-ahead for export (not SU-34), then due to this, they should be produced at our cost for our Defense Ministry.
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +3
          9 March 2013 15: 57
          Quote: regin
          then due to this for our MO they should be produced at cost.


          For the domestic market, it should always be supplied at .. "cost". for export is much more expensive (at least it was so), but what was supposedly invented at the expense of .. "uncle" is newly made managers wassat

          Therefore, for the time being, they plan to install on the MiG-35 ... a "mechanical" Zhuk-A., although there is AE (AFAR), but they say ... it is expensive in the Moscow Region, if "uncle buys ..." then AE will go to ours ... this is .. sadness! recourse
          1. +2
            9 March 2013 16: 05
            It’s also sad that all over the world who sells weapons, they sell circumcised versions (as it was during the USSR) and here the madhouse is complete, if not tomorrow, then they will have nothing to sell at all. it's not to sell sausage or furniture (((((
          2. 0
            9 March 2013 18: 21
            Question to Sergey (vaf):
            If possible, tell us about this group pilot.

  11. +4
    9 March 2013 12: 22
    News, friends:
    The situation on the Korean Peninsula has worsened, Izvestia writes. Pyongyang has announced that it has severed all non-aggression agreements with Seoul. This happened on March 8 after the UN Security Council adopted another resolution regarding the DPRK. The Security Council's package of measures envisages not only further restricting imports to North Korea and inspecting ships and aircraft heading there, but even examining diplomats if they are suspected of transporting large sums of money or dual-use technology. And two days earlier, the North announced the shutdown of the "hot line" between the heads of the two states, that is, now they cannot contact directly even if necessary.

    DPRK Deputy Defense Minister General Kang Pe Yoon said that "our army is just waiting for orders to enter the battle, and intercontinental ballistic missiles equipped with miniaturized nuclear weapons are aimed at the target." Pyongyang also, for the umpteenth time in recent months, promised to turn Seoul and Washington "into a sea of ​​fire."

    In response, South Korea said it would wipe Kim Jong-un's regime off the face of the earth. “If the North uses nuclear weapons, it will be destroyed,” said Kim Min Sok, spokesman for the South Korean Defense Ministry. Also, the command of the armed forces of the southerners noted that "Pyongyang’s chances of approaching the South Korean coast from the sea or striking from aircraft are negligible." However, the threat of rocket fire remains, especially since Seoul is located only 40 km from the border between South and North. Tokyo also has well-founded fears, given that it is less than 1000 km from the Korean Peninsula to Japan, and the launch by the northerners of a space rocket at the end of last year proved that it could fly to Japan.
    1. +4
      9 March 2013 13: 00
      George,
      Sorry for being cynical, a good testing ground for testing weapons in real conditions will be ready soon. The main thing is to prepare test samples of equipment, those who will test and ensure a stable flow of reliable information about the behavior of this equipment in real combat.
      But the Koreans will not succeed. Kndrovtsy - not Germans from the GDR, will not run to surrender until the first shot. It seems that the relaxed guys from Kangnam have a sweet life ha coming to an end, and it's time to find out how the powder, blood and charred flesh smell.
      The Germans, sometimes taking anti-Russian steps, would not hurt to remember thanks to whose goodwill Germany united without a single shot. It could be the way it is now in Korea
      1. +6
        9 March 2013 13: 22
        Quote: aksakal
        Sorry for being cynical, a good testing ground for testing weapons in real conditions will be ready soon.

        There will not be a test site but a complete nuclear..op if amers with China will not be able to calm them down. Now the situation is such that any incident or provocation can lead to unpredictable consequences. in the event of a war, the Southerner army is placed at the disposal of the US command, under the 1954 mutual defense treaty, and they begin to retaliate together. China then, too, will not be able to stand aside. And then the "Arab springs" in the Middle East will seem like child's play.
        Although in 2010. something similar was brewing. What about Russia? We are peaceful people, but our nuclear armored train is not on such an emergency route ...
        1. Melchakov
          0
          9 March 2013 13: 27
          Ascetic,
          And if that S-400 can somehow help the situation?
          1. +2
            9 March 2013 13: 31
            Which side?
            Provided that nothing flew into our territory. And then, in the Far East, the "incomplete" regiment is. Everything is "good" in our newspapers and on TV.
            1. +2
              9 March 2013 14: 36
              Quote: LiSSyara
              Provided that nothing flew into our territory. And then, in the Far East, the "incomplete" regiment is. Everything is "good" in our newspapers and on TV.


              The main thing here is whether the long-range missile has already approached for the S-400, which was tested last summer. They said about the start of serial production that it would start at the end of 2012. If so, then the Triumph will have a full line of missiles and then it will be able to

              to hit all types of manned and unmanned aerial targets at ranges up to 400 kilometers, as well as ballistic missiles with a launch range of up to 3,5 thousand kilometers, hypersonic and other modern and promising air attack weapons. This air defense system, as well as the S-300PMU2, is planned to be used to combat ballistic targets and conduct non-strategic missile defense.


              But the last phrase says that it is possible to equip the missiles of these complexes with nuclear munitions, All this is just speculation (we will take it that way) because according to official statements, the entire large family of nuclear tactical munitions is currently in central storage at the bases of the 12th GUMO.
          2. xzv
            xzv
            0
            9 March 2013 13: 50
            No, this is unlikely. S-400 is more political deterrence weapons than attack weapons. It can be applied only as a last resort, if all other possibilities have already been exhausted.
            1. +1
              9 March 2013 15: 34
              When did the air defense system become an attack weapon?
              Actually, the third letter in air defense is DEFENSE!
              1. Avenger711
                0
                11 March 2013 13: 12
                Yeah. amers also have a ministry defense laughing
        2. 0
          9 March 2013 15: 52
          Quote: Ascetic
          Now the situation is such that any incident or provocation can lead to unpredictable consequences.

          I think that this provocation will not take long to wait .......
        3. 0
          10 March 2013 17: 28
          Good luck to the North Korean comrades soldier Of course in vain they excited against the southern brothers - but here the hand of the State Department is felt. Again yaneksa in paradise on another’s corpses want to enter angry from me human indignation and shame on the imperialists am .And the South Korean comrades I wish to throw off the oppression of the Amerian imperialists and, in a fraternal outburst, will finally and forever unite into one primordial - ancient country. For their benefit and for us - Surprise.
    2. Melchakov
      +4
      9 March 2013 13: 29
      Quote: GEORGE
      In response, South Korea said it would wipe Kim Jong-un's regime

      And who will wash, if the first goal of the DPRK is South Korea. fool
      1. +1
        9 March 2013 14: 32
        And Yankiland will be erased, the lists of state military bases in the region of the described actions have already passed in the news:
        US military bases in South Korea
        US Air Force Base Osan (Osan Air Base). One of the two largest US air bases in Korea. Located in Pyeongtaek. It houses the 51 e-wing of fighter interceptors. It is equipped with A-10 Thunderbolt II attack aircraft and F-16 Fighting Falcon light fighters. The headquarters of the 7 Air Force is also located there. His mission is to protect South Korea from attacks from the North.
        Kunsan Air Base Along with Osan Base, one of the most powerful US Air Force bases on the peninsula. Located in the west of South Korea, by the Yellow Sea. It houses the 8th Air Wing, also known as the Pack of Wolves. Its A-16 fighters are equipped with the latest navigation systems and night vision devices, which allows them to fight at any time of the day.
        Camp Humphreys US Army Base near Pyeongtaek. Already now there are about 17 000 troops stationed there. By 2016, it should become the largest US garrison in Asia.
        US military bases in Japan
        Atsugi (Naval Air Facility Atsugi). The largest air base in the US Navy in the Pacific. The squadron of the 5 Aviation wing of carrier-based aircraft based on the aircraft carrier George Washington is stationed on it. At the base of Atsugi, there are also Squadrons of anti-submarine helicopters and the 4-e aircraft wing of the naval self-defense forces of Japan.
        Misawa (Misawa Air Base). The Misawa Base is the only combined military facility in the western Pacific. It houses subdivisions of three types of the US armed forces: the army, the navy, and the air force. The 35th Fighter Wing of the US Pacific Air Force is stationed at the airbase. The Misawa Security Control Center is considered one of the largest ground stations in the Echelon global electronic intelligence system.
        Kadena (Kadena Air Base). Kaden base is the largest US air base in Japan. The 18 wing of the US Air Force is deployed on it. At the base of Kaden is also the headquarters of the US naval command in Okinawa.
        Yokota (Yokota Air Base). The US Air Force Base is the main transshipment point of the US Armed Forces in the Far East. It houses the headquarters of the 5 Air Force and the United States Armed Forces in Japan. The 374 Air Transport Wing of the US Air Force is deployed in Yokot.
        US military bases in the Philippines
        Clark (Clark Air Base). The US Air Force Base Clark is the most important node of the trunk line. It connects the Philippines with US bases in Japan and South Korea. At the base are the switching centers of the United States Armed Forces communications system in the Far East. Clark Base provides control of ships and submarines.
        Moreover, Pyongyang has officially rejected the UN resolution toughening sanctions against North. Korea, but everyone knows how the "world fighters for democracy" are able to bring their ideas to the masses.
    3. +1
      9 March 2013 17: 02
      Quote: GEORGE

      News, friends:
      The situation on the Korean Peninsula has worsened, Izvestia writes. Pyongyang has announced that it has severed all non-aggression agreements with Seoul.

      There will be no war. North Korea thus seeks the lifting of new sanctions. Some kind of skirmish or limited clash is possible. But not a full-scale war.
  12. nickname 1 and 2
    0
    9 March 2013 13: 32
    If not for B. Khmelnitsky, Ukraine would not be part of Russia, if not
    humpback-labeled there can be no united Germany, if not for the humpback-labeled ebn, there can be no collapse of the USSR ..... is there a logical chain? continue?

    But is it the people, will it not begin mutual destruction, until the last man? Who, until now, has not given them reconciliation and unification?
  13. fenix57
    +5
    9 March 2013 13: 38
    Quote: aksakal
    Sorry for being cynical, a good testing ground for testing weapons in real conditions will be ready soon.

    Since I live 100 km from the border with the DPRK (on the highway, directly much closer), these "showdowns" do not please me at all. hi
    1. +2
      9 March 2013 14: 44
      Valery hi
      I sympathize.
      Under these conditions, the unprecedented military exercises of the USA and South Korea near the borders with the DPRK become a clearly destabilizing factor. They involved up to 300 thousands of military personnel from both sides, invisible fighters and heavy bombers. Expected to connect to the exercises of the American aircraft carrier. On Thursday, Kim Jong-un inspected military units on the islands that face the area of ​​military exercises. He threatened, in the event of the slightest provocation of the enemy in the Yellow Sea, to order the deployment of a holy war.
      Then someone will have stronger nerves (I don’t even want to think about a gun hanging on the wall).
    2. itkul
      +1
      9 March 2013 14: 53
      Quote: fenix57
      Since I live 100 km from the border with the DPRK (along the highway, directly much closer), these "showdowns" do not please me at all


      And who are you worried about, south or north. I’m personally for the civilized south with Samsung, LG, Daewoo. Yes, and the girls are pretty pretty

      1. +1
        9 March 2013 21: 03
        Quote: itkul
        And the girls are pretty pretty

        American popular culture has reached the East, which in my opinion is not good, but the girls are pretty.
      2. +1
        10 March 2013 02: 02
        Quote: itkul
        And who are you worried about, south or north. I’m personally for a civilized south with Samsung, LG, Daewoo


        And I am for Russia. At least sometimes swine thoughts (about food and bodily benefits) must be changed by human thoughts (about spirituality and the Motherland). And by the way, Samsung sounds very disgusting, if you read it on the contrary.
  14. Aktino
    0
    9 March 2013 14: 43
    SU-34 abroad - this will be a betrayal, and so all that is possible and impossible cannot be exported ...
  15. roial
    +7
    9 March 2013 14: 45
    What handsome











    1. shpuntik
      0
      9 March 2013 17: 50
      "Duckling", if you look from the nose. :-)
  16. Yastreb
    +4
    9 March 2013 15: 22
    It was smooth on paper - but forgot about the ravines!
    Fighters and other aircraft are produced and constantly supplied abroad, explaining to us the "sirem" that there is no money in the treasury for our own aircraft and the money from sales will go to modernize production and supply aircraft to the troops. in the troops - the situation is sad.
    In addition, in terms of electronics, we are significantly behind NATO.
    For those wishing to dig even deeper - find a list of existing aviation schools, a set of cadets, equipment and a flight of graduates.
    Finita.

    For those wishing to get acquainted with the history of aviation development in our country, I recommend watching an excellent series of video programs of the Wings of Russia studio
    1. +4
      9 March 2013 16: 39
      Namesake, partly you're wrong.
      I agree with the academies. Gagarin and Zhukovka could not be touched (thanks to pi ... ru Feldmebl and the race ... well, Luzhkov).
      In terms of production technologies - yes, but in terms of algorithms - let them leave us ... day.
  17. 0
    9 March 2013 16: 14
    Yastreb
    explaining to us "sirem" that there is no money in the treasury for our own aircraft and the money from sales will go to modernize production and supply aircraft to the troops ...

    Where did you get this? Who claimed to explain?
    1. servant
      +2
      9 March 2013 16: 37
      Starting with boriska, he first began with the promise of -2 an export for export, one for his own money. But for some reason he always forgot the money he earned .... there will always be someone who needs them ..
  18. +3
    9 March 2013 16: 33
    I wonder how the people are worried about what our "masters" are doing. Let's take our site as an example. Well, why should I read what, with whom and when our site generals "authorities" drink. Well, write to yourself in person. Or call up. It seems that after taking on the chest, clever thoughts are thrown ... I ask the admins to pay attention to this, it very often jumps.
  19. shpuntik
    +3
    9 March 2013 17: 32
    valokordin (2)
    I did not put a minus or a plus on the article, one thing annoys Poghosyan's face, well, he is not Mikoyan, not Mikoyan. This is his advertised useless "Pogost-100" (or cemetery -100). This United Aircraft Corporation seized everything. Those in power want to earn money on corporations: they will have a percentage of shares in the capital of the company. Even though so ... Better than nothing. I hope they are patriots. By the way, I read somewhere: the Americans doubted how to qualify the SU-34, or an attack bomber, or a fighter? Glory to Gd that we still have designers. So modify the fighter, this must be managed! :-)
    1. +2
      9 March 2013 17: 41
      Yeah, and with the outhouse behind the cab. They also try to put a microwave in the hump.
      A kind of Tu-160 (or 95MS) in miniature)))
    2. Avenger711
      +1
      11 March 2013 13: 15
      He wrote nonsense and even dared Pogosyan to kick ... Ugh!
  20. +2
    9 March 2013 17: 35
    Related:
    Fresh press conference by Poghosyan "Russian aircraft industry: a look from the inside".
    http://www.aex.ru/fdocs/2/2013/3/4/22620/
  21. +2
    9 March 2013 19: 05
    I don’t know whether Poghosyan is bad or good, but whether this will affect the financing of military projects:
    The United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) has returned to the idea of ​​building up its industrial zones in northern Moscow. As RBC daily found out, for the development of 100 hectares between the Central Aerodrome. Frunze and Leningrad Prospect UAC will create its own development structure. It must agree on the new parameters of the megaproject at the city hall, which can compete with the Moscow-City MIBC.
    About the development plans of the United Aircraft Corporation RBC daily told its president Mikhail Poghosyan. According to him, after a change of leadership in Moscow, a new stage in the consideration of the project for urban development of the UAC capital lands began, the headquarters of which are being relocated to Zhukovsky near Moscow. “A series of discussions took place with the mayor of Moscow in the government of the Russian Federation, and today we are developing a new outlook on the development of these territories,” said Mr. Poghosyan.
    Almost two and a half years ago, the Moscow City Architecture Committee developed for the KLA a design plan for 100 hectares between the airport. Frunze and Leningrad Prospect. He suggested the construction of 900 thousand square meters. m of housing, 1,4 million square meters. m of offices and many social infrastructure facilities. So, the architects planned the construction of three schools, two blocks of primary classes, six kindergartens and two clinics. Investment in the implementation of this project, the general director of Metrium Group, Maria Litinetskaya, is estimated at 2,5-3 billion dollars.
    Now the KLA must prepare a new - "balanced" - planning project. But, according to Mr. Poghosyan, he will take into account “what was”. Now aircraft manufacturers are trying to build relations with the Moscow government, which is afraid of "imbalance" and the aggravation of the transport situation on Leningradka. The Urban Planning and Land Commission has not yet considered the UAC project, RBC daily was informed in the construction complex.
    The declared building volume is 25 thousand square meters. m per hectare - meets the standards, however, taking into account the transport load of this area, the conclusion of a large-scale project may complicate patency, said Julia Nikulicheva, head of strategic consulting department at Jones Lang LaSalle.
    To launch the mega-building, aircraft manufacturers decided to create their own development structure. The KLA "daughter" will be involved in the formation and implementation of this project, in cooperation with the relevant city-planning authorities of Moscow, "says Mikhail Pogosyan. Thus, the UAC radically revised the strategy of its development business. Previously, the corporation planned to sell exempted land for development, but now it will do it on its own. This will allow the UAC to extract the maximum profit from its assets, the corporation believes.
    The UAC headquarters in Zhukovsky will be commissioned this year, where most of the management resources of the corporation will move, and this will give an impetus to the development of the development project, says Mr. Poghosyan. According to him, some of the assets of the UAC will remain in Moscow.
    The development of the land bank of aircraft manufacturers in Moscow and the transfer of their capacities in the suburbs will take at least ten years, according to the UAC. In terms of scale, this project can compete with another metropolitan megastroy - Moscow City.
    The construction and implementation period of all real estate built on the KLA lands will be 15-20 years, says Alexander Morozov, project manager of the strategic consulting department at Knight Frank. In his opinion, subject to the development of the entire territory, the total amount of built space will not exceed 1,5 million square meters. m, and the investment cost of the project excluding land will be about $ 2 billion. Housing will dominate in the new development, the expert is sure.
    But due to the high cost of the project, the developer will be forced to build business-class housing. “At the same time, due to limited demand, we do not have such large business-class projects,” says the CEO of Metrium Group. “For the effective development of the territory of the KLA, a mixed format of housing of a different class will be required.”
  22. +1
    10 March 2013 00: 01
    Well, Putin, visiting defense plants, does not force them to retrain and produce civilian products, as Gorbachev did in his time
  23. 0
    10 March 2013 00: 29
    In modern warfare, whoever owns the sky has already won.
  24. 0
    10 March 2013 09: 46
    It's hard for me to judge aircraft manufacturing plants (assembly plants). But I know something about engine building (aviation). So, the number of engines produced at one plant during the USSR was more than a thousand (from 1100 to 1300, depending on the year).
    Let's do arithmetic. 26 cars a year X for 8 years = 208. Is it not enough for our country ??? Or is it better than nothing at all.
  25. admakei
    +1
    10 March 2013 20: 45
    Let Russia have more new planes and good pilots. Yes, and we are calmer.
  26. 0
    10 March 2013 21: 23
    There is no machine gun, of course, but there is a 30-mm cannon, and even air-to-air missiles (even in the version of a front-line bomber).
  27. rubber_duck
    -1
    11 March 2013 01: 10
    Nevertheless, first the Russian Air Force will be equipped with these bombers, and only then can deliveries abroad.


    We swam - we know. How many percent are "completed" ?! And what is the meaning, in relation to our realities, of the word "equipped"? Not so long ago, someone, but not even the Great himself Helmsman A rower, talked about 90 pieces "by 2020". Is it, damn it, "complete" ?! To whom Google Earth is blind, buy a globe. It's clearer there ... Just take a look and repeat aloud: "In seven years we will have 90 modern front-line bombers" ...
    1. Avenger711
      -1
      11 March 2013 13: 17
      How much do you need? 1000 Just one type?
      1. rubber_duck
        +1
        12 March 2013 01: 08
        Quote: Avenger711
        How much do you need? 1000 Just one type?


        Well no. Why 1000 and one type? Don't exaggerate ... or troll. I would like not "a thousand" and not "one type", but thousands of aircraft of different types, together with pilots trained and really ready to fly them. So I will repeat my questions: by 2020? Will the Russian Federation hold out for another seven years? Are ninety frontline bombers enough for OUR land borders?