Cooperation News with Vietnam

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At the very beginning of this week, the Russian delegation of the Ministry of Defense, headed by Minister S. Shoigu, visited Vietnam. During the talks, some issues of military-technical cooperation between the two countries were discussed, and in addition, the minister voiced several interesting News. From his words it follows that military-technical cooperation between Russia and Vietnam in the future will not only not stop, but also increase. Statements by the Vietnamese Minister of Defense fully confirm the continuation of mutually beneficial cooperation.

Cooperation News with Vietnam


The head of the Vietnamese defense ministry, Phung Quang Thanh, said that the cooperation continues, and his country will continue to buy Russian weapons and military equipment. At the same time, mutually beneficial relations are not limited to the supply of weapons. One of the issues discussed during the negotiations was the training of Vietnamese soldiers in Russian educational institutions. It is possible that not only officers, but also generals of the Vietnamese armed forces will be trained in Russia. It is assumed that this will significantly increase their skills and skills and, ultimately, will have a beneficial effect on the state of the whole Vietnamese army.

As for the new military equipment, in this area, the creation and development of a full-fledged underwater tank currently has the highest priority for Vietnam fleet. About three years ago, the leadership of the Russian and Vietnamese ministries of defense came to an agreement on cooperation in this area. Russian experts were to build submarine-based bases in Vietnam. This construction, as well as the assembly of new submarines, was supposed to go at the expense of the Russian loan. Shortly before the announcement of plans for the construction of bases, Russia and Vietnam signed a contract for the supply of six diesel-electric submarines of project 636 Varshavyanka. They in the near future should become the basis of the Vietnamese submarine fleet.

The first of the submarines, called the "Hanoi", in December last year came to the test. If there are no serious problems, the customer will accept it by the fall of this year. The last of the ordered "Varshavyanki" will be operational by the 2018-19 years. Until now, Vietnam did not have submarines and now, due to new ships of this class, it will be able to significantly increase the combat potential of its armed forces. In the light of recent trends in the development of the armed forces of the countries of Southeast Asia, new submarines will definitely not be redundant.



Another issue of international cooperation concerning the naval bases is almost solved and will be secured by the treaty in the near future. This year, the ministries of defense of Russia and Vietnam intend to sign an agreement according to which Russian warships will be able to enter the Vietnamese ports and replenish stocks of fuel, provisions, etc. Thus, the Vietnamese ports will assume a number of basic functions of the logistics points. Earlier, for several decades, a similar point operated in the city of Cam Ranh, but after the collapse of the Soviet Union, it fell into disrepair, and was finally closed at the beginning of the two thousandth. Together with the fleet logistic support point, Russia lost the largest military base from foreign ones. Now the old conditions, apparently, will gradually recover. It is unlikely that a full-fledged Russian military base will appear in Vietnam in the coming years, but our sailors will be able to count on material and technical assistance.

It is noteworthy that even without the establishment of a new military base, Russians will be able to visit Vietnam. Over the past years, his military department regularly arranges tourist trips for Russian veterans of the Vietnam War. As Defense Minister Fung Quang Thanh said, his country expresses gratitude and thanks them for their help, and besides, it clearly shows what the efforts of former military advisers and specialists have led to.



It is not difficult to notice that the bulk of the news about Russian-Vietnamese cooperation concerns the naval forces. Over the past years, countries have been actively working together in this direction and have achieved some success. So, in 2011, the first two patrol ships of the 11661 project entered service of the Vietnamese Navy. According to reports, just a few months after the second one was commissioned, the Vietnamese Ministry of Defense showed a strong desire to acquire two more such ships. Last year, the Navy was replenished with two patrol ships of the TT400TP project, built in Vietnam with the active assistance of Russian specialists. In the near future, perhaps, several more such ships will be built.

In general, all the latest news from Vietnam confirms that cooperation with this country is one of the highest priority areas for Russia. For half a century, Vietnam has been a profitable ally for the Soviet Union and Russia, and will most likely remain in the future.


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  1. +8
    7 March 2013 09: 07
    Very good news. The Vietnamese understand that the future of the submarine fleet. Vietnam has a huge plus that unites us, hatred of the United States.
    1. Hon
      +3
      7 March 2013 11: 30
      The problem is relations with China. China really does not like that Russia is cooperating with Vietnam, which in turn can adversely affect relations between China and Russia.
      1. +4
        7 March 2013 11: 34
        Quote: Hon
        The problem is relations with China. China really does not like that Russia is cooperating with Vietnam, which in turn can adversely affect relations between China and Russia.

        Naturally. After all, Russia is arming with the same weapons, and the torus is better than the geopolitical opponents of the PRC. Who will like it.
      2. imperiologist
        +7
        7 March 2013 12: 34
        let these Chinese go to whom we want and sell them, it’s already sick of foreign policy
        1. +3
          7 March 2013 13: 55
          Where do you see the fake foreign policy, in my opinion we are already moving away from this for 5-7 years. Themselves wrote sell to whom we want. Well, China is the number one geopolitical adversary while we are friends, but for now.
          1. imperiologist
            0
            8 March 2013 12: 11
            Quote: ansons
            while we are friends, but it is bye

            this is "bye" and alarming
        2. mankurt
          +2
          8 March 2013 21: 31
          You better tell me, there are two generals, where is Russian, where is Vietnamese?
      3. 755962
        +3
        7 March 2013 23: 39
        Quote: Hon
        The problem is relations with China. China really dislikes Russia cooperating with Vietnam

        Still, there is a radar station located in the port of Kamran that can track the Chinese island of Hainan, the largest base of China’s submarines with strategic nuclear missiles. ..pardon.
      4. Georgs
        0
        15 March 2013 13: 25
        Kitayers - on the banango. But here is how to drive the drivers into our hands that Vietnam should be tightly taken by the bacon, promise this and that, show the carrots and sit tight in Kamrani. Otherwise, after all, others will sit down.
    2. -1
      7 March 2013 13: 24
      Oh oh You would read about the development of relations between Vietnam and the United States - you would be very surprised at what stage - including in the military sense - they are.
    3. itr
      0
      9 March 2013 07: 56
      The future is likely for the space forces is my opinion
  2. Alikovo
    +6
    7 March 2013 09: 28
    open a navy base in vietnam.
    1. +5
      7 March 2013 09: 49
      Not for that the current leaders closed Cam Ranh. They also covered Lourdens in Cuba. And in general, the actions of our military-political leadership remind the leaders of African tribes: Resources are exchanged for candy wrappers, and the leaders of important industries are appointed "for beautiful eyes" or by acquaintance - "Here you Lumumba showed yourself on the hunt, let me assign you an army general for this, you will command our Zulu troops! " Why did there exist in this country a system of military education with military universities, higher officer classes and the General Staff Academy? ... Why?
      1. -1
        7 March 2013 10: 48
        Quote: killganoff
        Not for that the current leaders closed Cam Ranh. They also covered Lourdens in Cuba. And in general, the actions of our military-political leadership remind the leaders of African tribes: Resources are exchanged for candy wrappers, and the leaders of important industries are appointed "for beautiful eyes" or by acquaintance - "Here you Lumumba showed yourself on the hunt, let me assign you an army general for this, you will command our Zulu troops! " Why did there exist in this country a system of military education with military universities, higher officer classes and the General Staff Academy? ... Why?


        Yes, everything is clear about our military leadership under the stool. No wonder those who are in uniform, thumped for a week when Taburetkin was dismissed.
        1. -1
          7 March 2013 14: 08
          PROXOR (3)
          Is Camran the Taburetkin?
          And Lourdes, it looks like Ivan the Terrible is to blame? :)
      2. +2
        7 March 2013 13: 59
        killgan off (1)
        Not for this Camran the current leaders closed. They also in Cuba, Lurdens covered. In general, the actions of our military-political leadership resemble the leaders of African tribes ..:

        You should not be in such a hurry in judging the actions of other people.
        You do not remember 1998 year? Year - the default of Russia?
        This year, Vietnam proposed revising previous agreements with the USSR on PMTC in Kamrani, with Russia's proposal to now pay the equivalent of $ 300 million per year. Could we afford it? Under Yeltsin .., with default ..? The Putin government has only fixed the situation.
        In general, our Asian friends twisted our arms "to the fullest," stating that the US and China are ready to pay 500 million a year for Cam Ranh.
        Tender, plaque fly, like ...

        Well, well ... Perhaps they got hungry, Asian brothers: // Maybe they got the mind?
        It seemed to me symptomatic and indicative:
        One of the issues discussed during the negotiations was the training of Vietnamese military personnel in Russian educational institutions. Perhaps in Russia not only officers will be trained, but also generals of the Vietnamese armed forces ...

        And they had a lot of options to focus on any military school.
        If this takes place - 100 pluses of our foreign policy.
  3. DeerIvanovich
    +3
    7 March 2013 09: 45
    I always knew that Vietnam, unlike many European countries, will carefully preserve the memory of the help of the Soviet people in the difficult year of trials and will likewise prove to be our reliable ally. Forever remembered the interview of the Commander-in-Chief of the Vietnamese forces, only warm words about Russia.
    I hope our compatriots do not disappoint their ancestors, who helped Vietnam free itself from the West
    1. -3
      7 March 2013 13: 30
      In fact, Vietnam was not free from the West. There was an intervention of the forces of North Vietnam - one country - in the South (it is almost as if Russia entered Ukraine at this stage and annexed it to itself). The United States was trying to maintain the status quo. As a result, they were tired of the dances of the South Vietnamese, who in every possible way sabotaged all possible negotiations with the North. A formal peace was concluded (North Vietnam remained within its borders according to its provisions, and South in its own). When the States left, the Viet Cong tried them for lice, attacking the South. Seeing that the United States is not responding, he annexed South Vietnam.
      1. +4
        7 March 2013 23: 14
        Funny noodles on the ears - the Vietnamese would be very surprised to learn that at first the French, and then the amers in pursuit, only did what they cut for the status quo. lol
        1. -4
          8 March 2013 00: 04
          Did you learn history? Apparently not. Political defeat does not mean military defeat. Both the United States and the French were militarily stronger by an order of magnitude. It's just that there and there, domestic politics intervened in the matter.
          1. +2
            8 March 2013 21: 40
            Speaking of the French, I would not be so categorical. Here they are exactly from the Vietnamese for wort thoroughly received. Under Dienbienfu.
            1. -1
              10 March 2013 17: 14
              Received. Such losses were in almost all colonial wars. This does not mean that they were critical from a military point of view. The French lost 1500 killed and the Vietnamese lost about 8000. The group was 5 times superior to the French. Yes, the Lambs lost a lot of people. But the Vietnamese dropped out 23000 people.
              If it were not for the internal foolishness in France during the 4th Republic, and internal problems, Indochina would have remained with France. By the way, in Algeria, they had already strongly pressed the locals by the time they left it.
          2. +2
            8 March 2013 22: 08
            Both the United States and the French were militarily stronger by an order of magnitude.

            Well, and that did not win, such strong?
        2. scrack
          +2
          8 March 2013 00: 31
          Do not say, the French would send the Foreign Legion for a peacekeeping operation
          1. -5
            8 March 2013 00: 38
            Where else does he go? For this purpose it is intended - for various kinds of military operations. Somewhere said that it was not a war? There was a war. Only here the loss there - as in Algeria - was purely political
            1. +2
              8 March 2013 22: 10
              Only here the loss there - as in Algeria - was purely political

              You are hinting that there was a win militarily wassat ? In more detail it is possible, I will write in my notebook.
            2. scrack
              +2
              8 March 2013 22: 20
              Especially in Algeria, where the military operation was led by Colonel Janpierre, a lover of women and electric shock. True, he was not very lucky - the helicopter on which he flew was shot down by a rocket
            3. AlexW
              +3
              8 March 2013 22: 54
              PimplyPlanned departure of Americans from Vietnam laughing UH-1 is pushed overboard to make room on the deck - no! Those who wanted to leave turned out to be more than free places.
              1. -1
                10 March 2013 17: 05
                Exactly. For whom, do not remember? For South Vietnamese refugees. The United States withdrew from the war, forcing the Viet Cong to sign Paris agreements. Moreover, there were more profitable options earlier - but South Vietnam sabotaged them. From a military point of view, the United States in Vietnam, France in Algeria, and the USSR in Afghanistan had no particular problems. Everything was decided at home by politics.
      2. AlexW
        +2
        8 March 2013 21: 26
        Pimply,
        laughing laughing "The states are gone" ... ugh-f, I haven't laughed like that for a long time. "Gone" - fled shamefully, leaving their suitcases and their Vietnamese whores. This is where the story is pulled in? Well Bumpy gives out - let's make you laugh again wassat
        1. -1
          8 March 2013 21: 36
          Rather, where you so vtyuhivayut.

          The United States left Vietnam not because it turned out to be weaker, but because of internal political problems. For the same reason, the USSR left Afghanistan. Has the fact of forcing North Vietnam to negotiate with the B-52s been removed from your version of the "correct" story?
          1. AlexW
            +2
            8 March 2013 22: 26
            Lopatov, Yes, for sure - in the USA at that time his Brokeback began to carry out perestroika and betray his allies laughing The American warriors were offended, ordered a farewell dinner, boarded the ships and sailed away under the orchestra. laughing But what about the Viet Cong’s plans to capture surrounded Saigon, and where do you hide the pictures of crowds of Saigon officials storming the Amer embassy, ​​urgently needed !! to take them to the states. Full of images of Amer helicopters taking off under fire from the roof of the embassy. Crowds of soldiers throwing equipment, fleeing to the port — singing on the last boat — the Viet Cong is on the heels. Don’t confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs — ours left Afghanistan in orderly columns with unfolded banners and they were met with flowers in their homeland. American warriors were greeted by crowds of pacifists, spitting and curses. We left, and without our bayonets, the Najibula government ruled the country for another three years - until EBN finally, to please the west, it did not betray him. The Saigon government escaped even before the last American steamer set sail. Analogies are completely irrelevant here.
          2. AlexW
            0
            8 March 2013 22: 48
            Lopatov,
            "Television footage is considered a symbol of the US defeat in Vietnam, in which helicopters landing on ships with refugees collide into the water after unloading to make room for other helicopters. A photo by correspondent Hubert Van Es became world famous, which was supposed to capture the scene of the rise of American personnel aboard a helicopter on the roof of the US Embassy in Saigon. "
            Sechas Americans claim that it was a planned exit and was carried out for 3 years and then:The spring offensive of the North Vietnamese forces, which began in March, was successful, and it was clear that a few days remained for South Vietnam. In connection with the approach of the North Vietnamese divisions to Saigon in the middle of the day on April 29, a pre-planned operation began to evacuate the remaining American citizens (mainly diplomatic personnel) in the country. The operation was carried out by the Marine Corps, which involved the CH-46 and CH-53 helicopters to transport evacuated to ships of the US 7th Fleet off the coast of South Vietnam. In addition to American citizens, Vietnamese refugees were also evacuated, wishing to leave the country in fear of the coming of the Communists to power. Soon, however, it became clear that it was not possible to evacuate all the refugees in Saigon - there simply wasn’t room on the ships for so many people. Is this how it was planned? Yes, and performed within 3 years? They completely lied. wassat
            1. -1
              9 March 2013 17: 44
              Quote: AlexW
              Sechas Americans claim that it was a planned exit and was carried out for 3 years

              When you begin to learn history ????
              The Americans withdrew their troops by March 29, 1973. Saigon taken April 30, 1975
              Two years, right? Is everything okay with arithmetic?
          3. AlexW
            -1
            8 March 2013 23: 07
            Lopatov,
            [media = rutube.ru / video / eaed7acf38b1992aad8e59ebeb1d2f1b /] Here's another footage of the US "planned withdrawal" from Vietnam.
            1. -2
              10 March 2013 17: 02
              The United States left Vietnam two years before, do you not know? The fact that the South Vietnamese fled on American ships is a slightly different issue. What are the Paris agreements generally heard of? And what was recorded in them? And in the know that the US did not set the goal of capturing North Vietnam?
        2. -2
          10 March 2013 17: 06
          You should at least learn history, and not look at pictures.
          1. AlexW
            +1
            11 March 2013 05: 45
            Pimply, "the evacuation of 1373 US citizens and 5595 South Vietnamese citizens from Saigon ..." is something that the Americans cannot conceal. "Left" in 73, and what did 1373 US citizens - chefs at the embassy - do there? No, they admit - Marine Corps - in that number? The "empire of lies" will lie to you, and will underestimate the figures if necessary. If you have gone what the combat boats were doing off the coast of Vietnam, AUG? Paris Agreements - Which Agreements Does the "International Gendarme" Respect? "The capture of the DRV was not planned," did they tell you that? laughing Massive bombing, shelling from ships in the territorial waters of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, sabotage detachments are all but preparation for an invasion. It didn't work out. They could not suppress the defense of North Vietnam - "bombing into the Stone Age" and now they say so modestly - "Yes, we didn't really want to." They invaded Laos, Kombodja, but somehow they didn't want to enter the DRV. laughing Storytellers. They knew perfectly well that an invasion of North Vietnam would lead to war with the USSR and the PRC. Yes, they could not keep the South either - the Vietcong enjoyed the support of the majority of the population. It was not for nothing that amers resorted to the tactics of "scorched earth" -like the Nazis on the territory of Belarus.
            PS When did Bush declare a complete and final victory over the Taliban? Remind me. But Karzai is suddenly offended that the United States is negotiating with the Taliban without his knowledge. Why else ,? Is there a complete victory? fellow
  4. 0
    7 March 2013 09: 46
    We recall the military pilot Antoine de Saint-Exupery: we are responsible for the one we tamed ...
  5. 0
    7 March 2013 10: 00
    Vietnam is our geostrategic ally. In light of the increasing greyhound, I suggest that China redirect the vector of arms supplies from China to Vietnam. And Vietnam, North Korea, and India will come out on our side during the aggression of China.
    1. +3
      7 March 2013 10: 42
      Well, Sergei, Commander-in-Chief on a dashing horse, put everyone in their place. But seriously, everyone has their own plans and intentions, today the Vietnamese are smiling at us and are negotiating with the Amers, the Indians are also buying something, but their vector of development does not always coincide with ours Well, DPRK you have certainly been too smart for them to have a terrible dream if the PRC and Russia converge in battle, because apart from us with the Chinese women they have no one
      1. 0
        7 March 2013 10: 46
        Quote: apro
        Well, Sergei, Commander-in-Chief on a dashing horse, put everyone in their place. But seriously, everyone has their own plans and intentions, today the Vietnamese are smiling at us and are negotiating with the Amers, the Indians are also buying something, but their vector of development does not always coincide with ours Well, DPRK you have certainly been too smart for them to have a terrible dream if the PRC and Russia converge in battle, because apart from us with the Chinese women they have no one

        I think another 100 years will pass before Vietnam will cooperate with the striped !!!! The vector of India is understandable. They want to have more than one weapon supplier. To incorporate all the technology into yourself. DPRK can be understood. But there is a saying. Of the two evils, the best is chosen. And the best in this case is us.
        1. +3
          7 March 2013 10: 59
          Sergey amers have been transferring production from the PRC to Vietnam for ten years. Tourism, cash flows have done their job. In addition, the Vietnamese nationalists in the first place, and in the second, the Communists will use everything that benefits Vietnam for the benefit of amers.
          1. +2
            7 March 2013 11: 02
            Quote: apro
            they will use including amers.

            So you answered your opus! The Vietnamese are not stupid, why deprive themselves of profit when you can milk the striped. There Israel milks half the world and does not shun.
            1. +1
              7 March 2013 11: 21
              Quote: PROXOR
              So you answered your opus! Vietnamese are not stupid, why deprive yourself of profit when you can milk striped

              you have to pay for everything and most likely Vietnam has taken on some agreements on cooperation with amers. The SGA will not fool them just like that.
              1. +1
                7 March 2013 11: 39
                Quote: apro
                you have to pay for everything and most likely Vietnam has taken on some agreements on cooperation with amers. The SGA will not fool them just like that.

                There is such a concept: "Sacrifice small for the sake of great." Selling a cell phone at a cost price - for the sake of obtaining constant profit from a subscriber. This is how drug dealers expand their clientele. Give to try and rushed. STRIPED because of their meanness I act in the same way. The pretzel is drawn, the bone is thrown, and when the client is ready they are brutally milked.
    2. 0
      7 March 2013 15: 33
      Quote: PROXOR
      And Vietnam, North Korea, and India will come out on our side during the aggression of China.

      Not necessarily, but most likely not evenVietnam and the DPRK will try not to get involved in the conflict between Russia and China, the consequences and result, which cannot be predicted, but for them participation in it will have disastrous consequences, besides, Korea is very strongly connected with China, much more than with Russia. there is nothing even to think about India as one of the "non-acceding" countries. hi
      1. -1
        7 March 2013 15: 38
        Quote: Old Rocketman
        It is not at all necessary, and most likely not even Vietnam and the DPRK will try not to get involved in the conflict between Russia and China, the consequences and the result, which cannot be predicted, but for them participation in it will have catastrophic consequences, in addition, Korea is very strongly connected with China, much more than with Russia. And there is nothing even to think about India as one of the "non-acceding" countries.

        Those. You want to say how these 3 countries will silently look at how one single dominator will remain in the region, without the possibility of influencing him !!!!!
        You are either not visionary or naive.
        1. 0
          8 March 2013 16: 24
          PROXOR,
          This is what I want to say, they will not watch in silence, but they will not fight on the side of Russia, especially the DPRK. you are naive, wishful thinking, and "love" us in these countries is not as much as you would like.Its shirt is closer to the body hi You heard or read about VietnamI was there.
    3. Georgs
      +1
      15 March 2013 13: 36
      Who is not in the know - take note and remember it firmly: in the event of aggression in our direction, NO ONE will stand on our side. Only have to fight back. Strategic allies can appear only in the case of the Great Peremogi for peeling possible crumbs from the winner's table.
  6. Fox
    +1
    7 March 2013 10: 47
    just do Vietnamese treat Russians well ... and I gave them a snot after the war ... The Chinese are afraid of them ... very much.
    1. AlexW
      0
      8 March 2013 21: 47
      Fox, The Chinese and Vietnamese are historically feuding. During the years of the American-Vietnamese war, the PRC, forgetting the old feuds, "provided assistance" to Vietnam - intercepted our military cargo and still transferred some of them, but as a gift. If to be objective, the PRC nevertheless helped with manpower — this good he had multi-military advisers, built and restored roads, dams, etc. After the end of the war, old grievances arose again. The victorious Vietnam began to pursue an independent policy. The PRC in 79. decided to teach a lesson, the invasion began. At first, our advisers wondered how the Chinese were making long transitions without logistic support - there was no supply of fuel and lubricants, food, or ammunition. It turns out that the Chinese had secretly equipped warehouses on the territory of Vietnam in advance, in roads and dams that they were repairing and being restored. But this did not help them - the Vietnamese, not without the help of Soviet advisers, utterly defeated and threw out the aggressor. Apparently the Vietnamese remember this well. The United States will probably not stick it out anymore, while China is still nearby and still claims to the islands and the oil shelf.
  7. 0
    7 March 2013 12: 19
    Personally, I do not like the fact that all foreign policy relations of Russia are at some kind of commercial level. And the real allies who "subscribe if cho" is one Mongolia. That would be to come to an agreement and create an anti-NATO bloc (Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Belarus, China, India, Vietnam, Iran, Armenia). And at the moment we have a country of traders ... you need managers and sellers to open a newspaper, I’m an engineer, but there are only hucksters among my entourage ... Although, on the other hand, the fact that they stopped giving weapons is great ...
  8. doctor-may-care
    0
    7 March 2013 12: 58
    Great news!
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    1. 0
      7 March 2013 14: 36
      rudolff
      А Where were our politicians, the military a few years ago? Woke up, damn it! ...

      Exactly in the same place where you and I were, together with Russian society.
    2. AlexW
      0
      8 March 2013 22: 00
      rudolffThis is not our leadership remembered, but Vietnamese. They need a counterbalance from a growing northern neighbor, who is not very friendly towards them. The Americans can create it, but the Vietnamese really do not want to let this "goat into the garden" - then you will not get rid of it - such experience already exists. And here Russia, an old tried and tested ally, began to grow stronger and more and more firmly defend his interests on the ball. Hanoi immediately suddenly forgot about his inflated prices for Cam Ranh and is ready to accept our terms of cooperation, both military and economic. The base offers - the very fact of its existence will deter any aggressor. Letting on the shelf - exploration and production of gas, oil - they know that we will defend our economic interests, and at the same time theirs. IMHO at this stage our interests coincide.
  10. Rrrrr
    +1
    7 March 2013 16: 10
    Sometimes people want to wishful thinking and write fiction and nonsense. For example :
    In fact, Vietnam was not free from the West. There was an intervention of the forces of North Vietnam - one country - in the South (it is almost as if Russia entered Ukraine at this stage and annexed it to itself). The United States was trying to maintain the status quo. As a result, they were tired of the dances of the South Vietnamese, who in every possible way sabotaged all possible negotiations with the North. A formal peace was concluded (North Vietnam remained within its borders according to its provisions, and South in its own). When the States left, the Viet Cong tried them for lice, attacking the South. Seeing that the United States is not responding, he annexed South Vietnam.
    It’s impossible to rewrite history!) Even if you need to work out the money paid))) but you can and should show your ignorance) and these implausible comments suggest that pimpled is also competent in other topics, here
  11. Rrrrr
    +1
    7 March 2013 16: 34
    I will eat my hat if you open your base in Vietnam. Ha Ha Ha. You poorly know the Vietnamese) The survival war, they remember very well! And the enemy is the United States. So foreign enemies - bite your elbows))
    1. -1
      7 March 2013 18: 39
      Remember. Therefore, they are cooperating with the States very actively now. It is better to have the United States as a strong ally against China than as a rival.
  12. Sokrat
    0
    7 March 2013 17: 04
    Quote: BigRiver
    This year, Vietnam proposed revising previous agreements with the USSR on PMTC in Kamrani, with Russia's proposal to now pay the equivalent of $ 300 million per year. Could we afford it? Under Yeltsin .., with default ..? The Putin government has only fixed the situation.

    They closed them at GDP. The closure of the electronic intelligence center in Lourdes is particularly noteworthy. It looks like the situation when Gorbachev handed over to the Americans the scheme for listening to the American embassy in Moscow.
  13. Algor73
    +3
    7 March 2013 19: 36
    After the collapse of the USSR, Vietnam found itself with its problems. This was used by the United States. In principle, thanks to cooperation with, to put it mildly, developed countries, the Vietnamese economy began to develop rapidly. So Russia needs to quickly and powerfully build up cooperation with this country in order to regain lost ground. Vietnam is afraid of China, and it is looking for a defender in Russia. And for Russia it is very profitable, as there is no more reliable partner in this region
  14. -1
    8 March 2013 00: 20
    For half a century, Vietnam has been a profitable ally for the Soviet Union.

    It seems to me the opposite.

    Quote: BigRiver
    You do not remember 1998 year? Year - the default of Russia?
    This year, Vietnam proposed revising previous agreements with the USSR on the subject of PMT in Kamrani, with a proposal by Russia to pay from now on the equivalent of 300 million $ per year.


    + 100%. There are many reproaches and little reality in assessing the possibility of retaining foreign bases. Find at least one "partner" of the USSR and Russia who, in a time of peace for himself, would not demand various compensations for the "use of their territories".
  15. Terkin
    0
    8 March 2013 00: 24
    The news is great. Slowly but surely, we are moving towards the opening of the Navy base. China now has a major headache in the United States. The United States has a base on the island of Guam, the presence of ports in Vietnam where our ships can replenish stocks means that our Navy will be able to be present in the waters of the South China Sea without much difficulty. The Chinese have enough of their problems, they are not up to us. And the main successes in Vietnam are yet to come.
  16. dsf43rewdsg
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    8 March 2013 01: 40
    Imagine, it turns out that our authorities have complete information about each of us. And now she has appeared on the Internet in free use at nutshellurl.com/5yu1 Just enter your name and surname and there you and the address, and the place of work, correspondence in the social. networks, and even found my intimate photos, I can’t imagine where it came from ... In general, I was very scared. But there is also good - the data can be deleted, I used it myself and I advise you ...

    Imagine, it turns out that our authorities have complete information about each of us. And now she has appeared on the Internet in free use at nutshellurl.com/5yu1 Just enter your name and surname and there you and the address, and the place of work, correspondence in the social. networks, and even found my intimate photos, I can’t imagine where it came from ... In general, I was very scared. But there is also good - the data can be deleted, I used it myself and I advise you ...