The big war is cancelled: there is not enough gunpowder!

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The big war is cancelled: there is not enough gunpowder!

Here we laughed together at Mr. Macron’s attempts to send his military to protect the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The laughter, of course, is so sad, because the French, and the Poles, and the Czechs, and whoever didn’t fit into the black soil...

There is no joy in this, it’s all at our expense in general. They will come - of course, we will respect them, but the further into the forest, more precisely, in the steppe of southern Ukraine, the less confidence there is in this.



Today the world has again become multi-polar, it is divided again, but does this mean that tomorrow one side will go to war against the other? On the one hand, many smart people have already talked about this, on the other hand, there are prerequisites for objecting in full.

Shell hunger


Reading and trying to analyze what I read from the reports on both sides of the Northern Military District, which is gradually beginning to be called a war, I got a very strange feeling that everything was not going according to plan.

So, on the other side, despite the help from the NATO common fund, everything is far from ideal. Moreover, already at the beginning of last year, cautious statements began to be made to the effect that the war was experiencing difficulties. Moreover, not in terms of thirst, because the blood or water of all military operations - oil, for now, is enough. That's it, there will be as much gasoline and diesel fuel as needed on both sides of the conflict.

Problem with something else. The problem is with gunpowder, which can safely be called the bread of war. And it was this very bread that was no longer enough.


What nonsense, some will rightly want to exclaim and will be almost fair in this impulse. However, it is true, and here's why.

The term “shell famine” is well known to us from last year, when (may God bless them all) the commanders of the Wagner PMC and the director of the company, Evgeniy Prigozhin, began to draw everyone’s attention to this problem through the media. And how, after some time, the official media showed whole rows of pallets with shells.

But somehow I didn’t have a chance to see the same pallets with charges. And that's normal, by the way.

In fact, counter-battery fire drones, aircraft with long-range missiles, tactical missiles and other “pleasures” of war pushed artillery batteries to the maximum distance from the front line. But the tasks that were set for the artillery of both sides were not canceled.


The further the barrels move away from the enemy, the more difficult shooting becomes. If there is 15 km between the gun and the target, it’s one conversation, but when it’s twice as much, it’s a completely different conversation. The projectile needed is the same, but the charge, alas, is different. Increased.

In fact, gunpowder burns in barrels at a higher speed than gasoline and diesel fuel in cylinders and chambers.

Shell hunger is not exactly a shell famine, it is also a cartridge famine, but a cartridge is just a reduced artillery shot and nothing more. An automatic cartridge contains one and a half grams of gunpowder, but the propellant charge of an artillery shell is 10-15 kg, depending on the caliber. The mortar shell dangles in the middle, but it also doesn’t want to fly without a propellant charge.

So any kind of “hunger”, no matter cartridge, shell, or mine, is a shortage of gunpowder. Gunpowder that sends both a 5,45 mm bullet and a 152 mm projectile into flight.

Of course, neither side discloses the exact volume of ammunition consumed. But in principle, judging by the fact that the allies recently promised Kyiv 4 million shells (they will only give 1,5 million so far), one can estimate that 40 tons of gunpowder should go with such a number of metal blanks stuffed with death.

Gunpowder in flasks


If you look through the specialized forums of the country (for example, guns.ru), then since the summer of 2022 there have been discussions about the fact that there is less choice of cartridges, and gunpowder for those who like to equip cartridges themselves is quite expensive.

Some even gave versions that the entire volume of gunpowder produced in the country goes to the needs of the SVO, but after talking with competent people, I was imbued with the understanding that hunting gunpowder is still quite different from combat gunpowder and cannot replace it in the same machine gun cartridges.

Another question is that yes, production facilities are used specifically for the production of combat gunpowder, and the assortment of hunting stores has become rather scarce due to the departure of Western manufacturers.

But let’s face it, gunpowder is more relevant for the army today than for entertainment. Hunters, no offense. But there is still not enough gunpowder, since its market has not yet recovered after the departure of Western manufacturers. And I don’t think it will recover until the end. We'll have to be patient.

Gunpowder is generally a problematic product; its basis is cotton, from which nitrocellulose for gunpowder is synthesized. Alas, it does not grow in Russia. During the Soviet era, all cotton came from the Uzbek and Tajik SSR, today, as you understand, the issue is not an easy one. And foreign exchange.


But modern Uzbekistan is only the fifth largest cotton producer in the world, the leaders are China, India, Pakistan, and the USA. And among the top ten producers is Syria...

In general, the supply issue does not look as bad as it could be. We have.

But income is only half the question, the other is expense. And the expense, as we have all seen, can be simply monstrous. Maybe someone will calmly forget after seeing Bakhmut’s fiery hell, but it’s difficult for a normal person to do this.

We can say that due to the fact that air defense systems significantly neutralized the use aviation, and artillery began to play no less significant role than in the Second World War.


How do you generally calculate consumption? You can start from the statistics of the war in Afghanistan, where a group of Soviet troops of 100 people (counting absolutely everyone) spent about 000 million rounds of ammunition per month. If you count it, this is about 30 tons of gunpowder. But this was Afghanistan.

Today, on the territory of Ukraine, the fighting is much more severe, and I would say that its intensity is an order of magnitude higher. And the quantitative composition is not really known, but it is definitely five times more. From here, the cartridge consumption can be safely multiplied by 10. That is, 450 tons of gunpowder per month.

And also shells. It’s simpler here, Prigogine, may he rest in peace, voiced the figures of 20 thousand shells. In a day. Only in the Bakhmut area. But the battles there were terrible in intensity; it is probably possible to accept such a figure for the entire line. That is, 300 tons of gunpowder. Per day. More shots - more consumption. But it turns out that our artillery and infantry require a minimum of about 10 tons of gunpowder per month.

The factories seem to be coping; basically everything is developing normally. That is, we have cotton supply channels, we have chemical enterprises doing everything necessary, gunpowder factories produce as much gunpowder as the army needs.

Did you miss anything? If anything, correct it.


What do they have?


What the Czechs did by promising Ukraine 4 million shells can only be called a scam. They just staked out a number for themselves and went looking around the world for these same shells. It is already clear that nothing really will come of it, and God grant that Kyiv receives at least 1,5 million out of 4. Then. May be. Half.

But we will leave the Czech fraud on their conscience; it was clear from the very beginning that the Czechs simply do not have such a quantity of shells, but what kind of garbage dumps they will collect it from is absolutely not our headache.

But in parallel with the Czechs, another statement slipped through completely unnoticed. A joint. Denmark and Norway, together, promised Ukraine as many as 9 000-mm shells. This, as we understand, is for a day of not very active hostilities.

Norway will provide shells, and Denmark will provide charges and fuses. Naturally, this will be ammunition removed from storage. This is a very good indicator of the European attitude towards Ukraine: nothing personal, purely business. You can’t compare it with the Czechs, of course, but if these shells weren’t about to expire, do you think the Europeans would be generous?

So I think not. And here is a demonstration of how “All of Europe is concerned.” Of course, there is concern - how to make money before the Kiev shop closes completely.

And here, indirect information that Norway will replace its insanely generous gift by 2025 suggests that the brave descendants of the Vikings are not planning to fight in the near future.


And so throughout Europe, and not only there, by the way. Warehouses are being emptied, but no one is in a hurry to replenish them.

Early last year, the French company EURENCO promised to bring back gunpowder production from Sweden to its new plant in Bergerac. The main reason is that Ukraine must be saved! Macron promised to help with all his might, and this seems to be the result of his efforts.

The Bergerac plant is planned to produce 1 tons of gunpowder per year. This volume is enough to produce “200 thousand modular propellant charges for 500 thousand rounds, of which 95 thousand are intended for the needs of the French army within the framework of the law on the development of national defense until 15.”

That is, again we are not talking about helping Kyiv, but about replenishing our own reserves. But there still remains the lion’s share of 80 thousand charges, which can just be transferred to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Generously? Yes. Two, or even three months of shooting.

The whole problem is that the plant is not yet ready for operation and it will not be possible to launch it before 2025. But this is not the main problem.

There are also Spaniards, the company Expal, which belongs to the German concern Rheinmetall. Well, is there no need to say that the Germans are now plowing three shifts in Kyiv?

The big bell rang quietly in February of this year when China announced that it would stop exporting cotton to Europe. Their crop failure is terrible and as luck would have it, they need to re-equip the army reserves. Therefore, a thousand and one excuses, but there will be no cotton in 2024. And perhaps in 2025 too.

Who will be surprised that EURENCO management has already announced that plans to launch the plant will be revised and, in our words, “shifted to the right”? Until a new cotton supplier is found.

And with the Spaniards it’s even cooler! Expal actually has to fulfill an order from Rheinmetall for 100 thousand shells for Kyiv. And the Spaniards had to fulfill this order by the end of this year. But they won’t do it, because they… that’s right, problems with gunpowder!


So the Spaniards will sharpen the blanks, no problem there. But gunpowder - alas. But they promised to study the market, import substitution and all that.

It turns out that China is the most important link in the production of shells. Moreover, anywhere, from the USA to Russia. The country occupies 25% of the world cotton market, producing about 6 million tons of raw material. The same number is in India. In third place is the USA. But the United States sells all its “excess” cotton to Mexico, Honduras and... China!

We will not draw conclusions about why China suddenly needed such a surplus of cotton; here it is already clear why. The reserve is not easy on the pocket, especially if (judging by the statements) nothing like this is planned with Taiwan. Since the PRC will not do anything at all in terms of Taiwan, it is clear that several tens of thousands of tons of gunpowder are simply needed in warehouses.

Europe will definitely wait, Europe is not going to war


By the way, approximately the same can be said in relation to South Korea and Japan. They are not going to war either. This looks strange: against the backdrop of constant cries about the emanating threat from China and North Korea (especially from Korea), these two countries are sending some “surplus” shells to Ukraine.

It’s strange, to say the least: you have threats at your doorstep, and shells go to the other side of the world for free. Everyone understands that in the event of any problem in South Korea, for example, Ukraine will definitely not help. And there is nothing, and there is no need.

The conclusion is very simple: while some types of the original French president are shaking the air with promises to send their legions to death in Ukraine, the vast majority of European countries are quietly sitting in the corners and muttering something like “holy, holy, holy, save and carry.” It will really be difficult for them to fight.

I'm not saying that there were no shells, gunpowder and equipment left there in general. There are practically no shells, gunpowder and equipment left there for Ukraine, and this is far from the same thing. But two years of SVO have already shown quite well what volumes of everything such a conflict can gobble up without a trace.

In fact, I got the following impression: where they planned the conflict on the other side, they miscalculated. Yes, I turned it back two and a half years, looked at what experts and “experts” in the world were saying about a possible Russia-Ukraine confrontation and came to the conclusion that almost everyone agreed that in two weeks the Russian army would be in Kyiv. Or even earlier.

The theme of the blitzkrieg sounded powerful and even, and starting from it, they began to prepare counteraction. Yes exactly. The option that was calculated was the capture of Ukraine along the Dnieper line and in a fairly quick time frame. Just the thing: the infrastructure is intact, there is something to capture.

And according to the plans, a guerrilla-sabotage war against the invaders would have to begin from overseas. According to the model and likeness of the one that was in 1944-1951 of the last century.

Refresh your memory, what Western gifts did we talk about at the end of 2021 and the beginning of 2022? That's right, Bayraktars, Stingers and Javelins. And there are also grenade launchers and mines in stock. A very useful set for such a war, everything was chosen very accurately. For sabotage, sorry, Tanks, guns and tactical missiles are not needed. At all.


It was MANPADS and ATGMs that made up the bulk of the “gifts” of the Ukrainian Armed Forces at that time. We somehow didn’t think much about it, but yes, Europe and the United States supplied the Ukrainian Armed Forces at the beginning of 2022 in much the same way as they did to the Afghan Mujahideen in their time. And some attempts to supply heavy weapons began only at the end of 2022, when it became clear that the blitzkrieg would not take place.

Moreover, today it is difficult to unambiguously answer the question of why this happened: either they couldn’t, or didn’t want to. There are arguments for both versions, but in the end it turned out that there would be no guerrilla war. Yes, the Stingers played their role, especially against helicopters, and the Javelins worked as best they could, but then the need arose for tanks, guns, missiles, drones, and - especially - full-fledged air defense systems.

And here something began that no one expected in Europe. Demands for arms supplies began at a completely different level. First, all warehouses in the countries of the former ATS were swept out. Then there were attempts to organize transportation from the republics of the former USSR, but somehow this did not work out. And finally, old European-made items were used. But that too ended.

And here is the biggest problem: the newest weapon no one wants to give it away. Expensive - one, and what to be left with - two. IRIS-T, Storm Shadow, Patriot and so on are, of course, good weapons, effective, but who will give them enough to saturate the front line?

Nobody, of course. As a result, the United States practically withdrew, they say, get busy, we have China and Taiwan on the agenda here. There is no time for Ukraine now. And the European allies not only don’t want to give something new, they’re already struggling with the old, poor things.

And now I will allow myself a small historical excursion


It was a long time ago. Back in 1940. In the small German town of Zossen in southern Germany, a military plan-game took place, in which the Barbarossa plan was played out. He was played by the same personalities who had previously played the fate of Poland, Belgium, Denmark, and France on tablets here. We know these names very well: Halder, Paulus, von Brauchitsch, Guderian, von Kleist and others.


We won't go into the details of this game because we know how it all ended. So, the speaker, General Paulus, who was leading the game, ended up saying this strange phrase: “Strategy, gentlemen, is the algebra of war, which makes it possible to differentiate the final result of the battle long before it. We need to be better prepared.".

And better than anyone else, this algebra was understood by the Chief of the General Staff, Halder (it would be strange if the Chief of General Staff did not understand the essence!), who after and without unnecessary witnesses said to Paulus: “We need a blitzkrieg. Prolongation of the war threatens us with disaster...".

The blitzkrieg did not take place in 2022. It doesn't matter for what reason. The guerrilla sabotage war died in its infancy. In European countries that support Ukraine, there is less and less... no, not money. No one is interested in money if it is not turned into shells and cartridges.

More precisely (I will correct myself), money, of course, is not a bad thing for the Ukrainian elites, who will be happy to “master” it to the fullest extent, but the pound sterling - they will not shoot at the “Geranium”, which is flying towards the target. And euros cannot be loaded into machine guns; they must be converted into weapons.

And with this there are difficulties, and enormous difficulties! Europe can't cope with the war! They really needed a blitzkrieg, because then they could strangle Russia with sanctions, throwing firewood on the smoldering fire of “popular resistance.”

But no, it didn't work out. And now ALL mighty Europe can do nothing to oppose Russia with its two rogue allies Iran and North Korea? Seriously?

Yes seriously. The Spaniards will spend a year sharpening 100 shells, which were shot at Bakhmut in a week. The French will be looking for where to get cotton for gunpowder, including for these shells.

There won't be a big war. NATO is not ready for it, this must be admitted today so that it does not cause excruciating pain tomorrow. Europe is not ready for a big war. Outside Europe - the USA and Türkiye - they have their own cockroaches and interests.

What are we even talking about, what kind of global war with Russia, if the Europeans don’t have gunpowder for such a thing?

Of course, there is still the scenario of a nuclear war, but cotton is definitely not needed for that. But this, you understand, is even more ridiculous than the war to admonish Russia by NATO.
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  1. +3
    April 9 2024 04: 48
    But I wouldn’t be so optimistic. NATO is ready for war with Russia, and will definitely start it. But a shortage of gunpowder is such a thing, today there is a shortage, but tomorrow there is no shortage
    1. +37
      April 9 2024 06: 20
      There are a lot of letters, you can immediately guess who the author is.
      NATO is not held back by gunpowder. NATO is restraining Russia's nuclear missile potential.
      And gunpowder is already produced from wood and flax nitrocellulose.
      1. +50
        April 9 2024 07: 05
        The novel, in general terms, described everything correctly. But only in general. The problem with gunpowder production does not lie in the availability or absence of the required amount of cotton. The production of pyroxylin powder from cotton has been most developed and mastered. The highest quality gunpowder from cotton cellulose is obtained abroad; we are somewhat behind here. Since the time of the Patriotic War, due to the shortage of cotton, the USSR has developed a technology for producing gunpowder from wood cellulose. Now we have developed the technology for producing flax and hemp from cellulose. At the beginning of the 2 thousandth, I was sent to study to improve my qualifications from our chemical engineering department. plant. During our studies, we were told about the general state of production of ammonia and nitric acid and their derivatives in Russia. At that time, Russia was a global monopolist in this industry. Even then, restrictive sanctions were imposed on our manufacturers due to the low price of nitrogen chemical products. To produce nitric acid, the basis of all gunpowders, large amounts of electricity, natural gas and water are required. Russia has all this in abundance. The problem is different: during the demob chaos, some of the gunpowder factories were closed and production facilities were destroyed. This is where the legs of the shortage of artillery rounds “grow.” Artillery powders are not only nitrocellulose, there are also cordite and ballistite. There are other components. So the problem of gunpowder in Russia stems from the general pogrom of the chemical industry by zealous reformers. Hence the problems with explosives.
        1. +7
          April 9 2024 11: 10
          I agree, the problem is not the availability of cotton, the problem is new technologies for producing it from more accessible raw materials. Gunpowder was simply made from cotton cheaper than from flax, hemp and wood. But in war, money is counted after victory.
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            2. PPD
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              April 11 2024 09: 08
              If you plow and sow hemp right this spring

              Then by the time it matures, all of NATO will not be enough to protect it. And battles for it with bad citizens will unfold....
              The sorcerers will appear again, healing with herbs...
              How does it sound... laughing
              A drug addict's dream.
              1. +2
                April 11 2024 10: 15
                Quote: PPD
                By the time it matures, it won’t be enough for all of Nato to protect it. And battles for it with bad citizens will unfold....

                For industrial hemp??
                Well, they’ll try it once or twice, realize that it “doesn’t stick” and get embarrassed. Moreover, in all nearby plots with wild cannabinoid hemp, due to cross-pollination, the hemp will degenerate into the same industrial hemp. Tested by practice. Or do you think that no one grows industrial hemp now?
                Quote: PPD
                The sorcerers will appear again, healing with herbs...

                Are there not enough of them now? Well, industrial hemp won’t get through to them, they’ll switch to fly agarics. This will only make them more fun.
                By the way, dried fly agaric mushrooms (with the proper dosage and knowledge of the procedure) are very good for treating the consequences of concussions. But you probably feel closer to the thrill of an overdose.
                Any medicine that overdoses becomes poison.
                Quote: PPD
                A drug addict's dream.

                So stop drinking. The most terrible drug that destroys the body, causes addiction and is the cause of tens/hundreds of thousands of deaths annually is ALCOHOL. Moreover, it is not only legalized, but also imposed by advertising and all types of state and corporate propaganda. Start fighting THIS evil. For him, suffering drug addicts do not need to run to fields with industrial hemp or risk buying cannabis illegally - they simply go to the alcohol market and drink themselves to death. As a result, they commit terrible crimes, die themselves and kill/injure people as a result of road accidents... This is Evil. Fight with him.
                Have you seen a violent drug addict smoking weed?
                And compare it with rowdy football fans drunk... on beer.
                Choose the right vector to combat drug addiction. With legal drug addiction. And you will be known as the new Robin Hood.
            3. 0
              April 14 2024 21: 32
              Rainbow project, rainbow! There are only a few things left to do: how to bring it to life? To do this, you need a smart business executive on a national scale, and after rummaging through my memory, I just remembered one. Maybe you can recommend under your guarantee? lol The names of those who are now driving the people's wealth beyond the border are clearly not suitable for this. feel
              1. 0
                April 14 2024 22: 34
                Quote: Frank Muller
                Rainbow project, rainbow! There are only a few things left to do: how to bring it to life?

                What's the difficulty? Is it difficult to plow up and sow all abandoned fields and virgin lands with hemp? And this is after the food program has been successfully resolved in Russia, especially for grains and oilseeds?? Well, really, it's not funny. Here, there is no need for pesticides, and there is no need to organize watering - hemp grows on ANY soil, the most infertile. And within a few years it makes these fields suitable for more sophisticated crops.
                Or are you confused by the technology of processing hemp into nitrocellulose?
                So there are no special problems here either. Or do you think sawdust is easier?
                Processing hemp into fiber and textiles is another matter. But there is no particular difficulty here - hemp is now actively cultivated in China and all the equipment for processing is produced locally (using our Soviet technology, they generally took all our factories to themselves, including agricultural machinery factories. So there is where buy/order turnkey plants, even agricultural equipment of this profile for the first time, and then do everything yourself. And all the costs for this will pay off very quickly, just start. But of course we need dedicated people, initiators of this business. hemp production and technologies for its processing. Young, energetic, talented, interested. So there is someone to entrust, someone to learn from. But what is needed is a long-term and promising state order and awareness by the authorities of the necessity, usefulness and extreme benefits of this business. Provide a government order, give credit to farms to promote this business, help with the acquisition of equipment, and a whole new industry will be revived and flourish in a matter of years.
                The same applies to flax cultivation. It also grows in all our latitudes and is quite unpretentious. And it’s time to change state policy in favor of self-sufficiency of our textile industry towards self-sufficiency and autonomy in terms of raw materials. Well, cotton doesn’t grow here!! And linen clothes, linen (including bedding) and everything else are better and healthier for a person. And most importantly - yours. And what kind of fabrics can be obtained from flax with proper and high-quality processing, the quality is no worse than silk. But again, we need a government program and government support. Not the children of nobles from the thieves of the 90s, but real specialists and enthusiasts of this business. And they exist.
                Quote: Frank Muller
                drive the people's wealth beyond the border

                Now these subjects are already sending their wealth back to Russia. They save you from arrests and confiscations. So there is enough money for the development of a new industry.
                And I would have found performers and investors if I had been vested with powers. Therefore, only good advice and recommendations. And this is definitely not for the Muellers. Even if they are Franks.
                1. 0
                  April 17 2024 23: 57
                  That’s for sure, this entire package of advice (no lower than the state level!) is worthy of nothing less than the attention of the Russian president himself. I suspect that, in accordance with them, he is already drawing up a plan for further actions, and Russian oligarchs are in a hurry to invest their brought “hard-earned money” in the production of nitrocellulose and hemp. I am also sure that we will soon be proud of the fact that the new adviser to the President of the Russian Federation once communicated with us on the Internet under the pseudonym Bayard. laughing
                  1. 0
                    April 18 2024 04: 49
                    Quote: Frank Muller
                    That’s for sure, this entire package of advice (no lower than the state level!) is worthy of nothing less than the attention of the Russian president himself.

                    Well, this is not my first advice. Some have already been used.
        2. +11
          April 9 2024 13: 51
          Now we have developed the technology for producing flax and hemp from cellulose.

          Gunpowder from flax is not only the development of gunpowder chemistry, but also the return of flax as an agricultural crop, once grown in abundance in the north and north-west of Russia. Moreover, flax gunpowder, as chemists said, has better characteristics in terms of combustion uniformity compared to cotton gunpowder. Moreover, flax production will finally make it possible to raise the depopulated villages of northwestern Russia and breathe new life into them. Unfortunately, Russia has long slipped from first place in the cultivation of flax and its processing to 10th place in the world. Whether it will be possible to restore the production and processing of flax is another question. Based on the importance of flax for Russia, its cultivation and processing should generally be included in the list of priority projects in Russia. Moreover, flax can be grown and processed not only in northwestern Russia, but also in the east.
          1. +4
            April 9 2024 15: 28
            Moreover, flax can be grown and processed not only in North-West Russia

            In the Vologda region alone, huge areas can be sown with flax; the lands are overgrown with shrubs and hogweed. Huge fields are empty.
            1. +7
              April 9 2024 19: 55
              Well, what kind of profit does the ruling “buy there, sell here” get? A prudent approach requires a different mentality, indifference to the fate of the Motherland and the people. It’s a little difficult to solve such problems with the nouveau riche of the saints of the 90s. They raised such a shift. They want a quick fix, but here everything takes a very long time.
        3. +1
          April 9 2024 14: 33
          Quote: 2112vda
          There are also cordite and ballistite. There are other components

          It also contains nitrocellulose.
        4. +1
          April 9 2024 22: 20
          Quote: 2112vda
          ...the problem of gunpowder in Russia stems from the general pogrom of the chemical industry by zealous reformers.

          Or rather, industrial saboteurs and simply enemies of Russia, who have not yet been held accountable.
      2. +6
        April 9 2024 07: 08
        Alekseev
        NATO is not held back by gunpowder. NATO is restraining Russia's nuclear missile potential.

        That's for sure.
    2. +14
      April 9 2024 06: 24
      Is it really ready? I highly doubt it. I don’t know how things are now with shells and mines, but at the time of July last year, everything was fine with dill, I can’t speak for all directions, but in Marinka and Kleshcheevka we didn’t observe any shell hunger among them. They beat me so hard that I couldn’t raise my head. But we practically didn’t see the dills themselves there, mostly Poles, and a couple of other creatures. I don’t know how they are doing with gunpowder, but with the “spirit”, or rather with the smell, things are not so rosy for them. We either nullified or greatly frightened the most spiritual ones, and the rest began to leave the service en masse. So I don’t really believe in their readiness to fight with us as adults. And then, in order to seriously fight with Russia, you need a new Napoleon, Hitler, Guderian, or, at worst, Friedrich “the Great”, but somehow I don’t see such a thing, we don’t take into account the broiler micron, just like the sausage scholtz. They do not yet have worthy leaders, but they themselves are to blame for this.
      1. 0
        April 9 2024 23: 44
        Then not now. In 2022-2023, shells were delivered to Ukraine from all over Europe, plus 300 from Israel, South Korea, etc. Now these reserves are no longer available. Plus, the massacre began in Gaza, and there the Jews, as MK wrote, spent almost 000 shells in November alone. We can assume that they were taken from the Ukrainians.
    3. +9
      April 9 2024 06: 33
      NATO has a term called acceptable damage, and they are very sensitive to it. Moreover, it is unacceptable for them to conduct military operations on their territory. By someone else’s hands, or at least on someone else’s territory, yes, but on our own, no
    4. +23
      April 9 2024 07: 11
      The conclusions from the article - and not only that - are simple.
      1. They “haven’t even started yet.” When you start, you build factories, repurpose them, and use cotton not for jeans.
      2. They are waging a low-budget war. Considering where the front line is after 2 years, it’s quite justified. Astrologers will tell you what’s next, but they don’t feel this kind of tension.
      Well, the military-industrial complex is being deployed slowly, without social upheaval.
      1. +9
        April 9 2024 08: 39
        Well, the military-industrial complex is being deployed slowly, without social upheaval.


        Dear tsvetahaki (Al)

        I agree with your statement.
        European military companies producing weapons want to receive long-term guarantees from states for the demand for weapons production, SO they are in no hurry
        expand production capacity.

        ...According to Andrea Nativi, chairman of the European Association of Aerospace Industry, Security and Defense, against the backdrop of a shortage of qualified personnel and key components, the industry has already done everything possible to optimize or expand production through its own investments. According to him, the sector now wants transparency about further government demand...

        Tensions between European defense agencies and companies revolve around the question of who should take the lead. Even as orders continue to pile up, the industry is wary of expanding production headlong, lest it find itself without demand in a few years.
        https://inosmi.ru/20230710/arsenal-264236378.html


        NATO countries are currently negotiating a budget for joint annual arms purchases. So far we are talking about “the allocation of military assistance to Ukraine in the amount of 100 billion euros over five years.”
        If this amount is approved, then “Europe’s war machine will spin its flywheels.”
        At the same time, agreement is underway in NATO countries to “simplify standards to ensure compatibility of ammunition with weapon systems of different countries.”

        "...The haircut has just begun..." (m/f)

        The title of the article does not make me optimistic.
    5. +5
      April 9 2024 07: 14
      "NATO is ready for war with Russia, and will definitely start it." -
      Is there a leader there capable of giving the order to shoot on the spot rallies who disagree with the losses??a leader at least at the level of de Gaulle??
      A leader who can bring everyone together NOT those who want to fight and drive them towards Russia?
      But the shortage of gunpowder is not the whole problem; there is also the issue of a mountain of resources. Which are not within walking distance, there is money, but there are simply no resources.

      Z.y
      I don’t know how true it is (but I fully believe it) - but it came across that Magnitnaya Mountain (the one that is “Magnitka”!!) was razed to zero during the war...
      1. 0
        April 9 2024 07: 44
        Quote: your1970
        I don’t know how true it is (but I fully believe it) - but it came across that Magnitnaya Mountain (the one that is “Magnitka”!!) was razed to zero during the war...

        It's true.
    6. +12
      April 9 2024 07: 19
      I read the article and was puzzled. What kind of cotton did Germany make gunpowder from during World War II?
      1. +4
        April 9 2024 07: 49
        I read the article and was puzzled. What kind of cotton did Germany make gunpowder from during World War II?

        You're asking the wrong question. One should ask: what kind of cotton did the USSR make gunpowder from? And the Russian Federation, of course. Then our love for Tajiks and Uzbeks will become clearer. wink

        As for the West, everything is fine there. Cotton does not grow in Berlin, but the northern border of the United States runs along the latitude of Voronezh. New York at the latitude of Yerevan, just in case. laughing

        The blacks haven't gone anywhere either, Uncle Tom is in his hut, at his combat post.
        1. +1
          April 9 2024 11: 07
          The northern border of the United States runs along the latitude of Voronezh. New York at the latitude of Yerevan
          This is all true, but you forget about the difference in landscapes, in particular heights
        2. +3
          April 9 2024 12: 08
          Mogocha is also at the latitude of Sochi, but this is why palm trees do not grow in Mogocha
          1. +5
            April 9 2024 13: 40
            . Mogocha is also at the latitude of Sochi, but this is why palm trees do not grow in Mogocha

            Well, in the states, cotton is not planted in Harlem either. laughing
            That's why they have the South.

            Globally, this was the case with cotton in the world in 2018. (This is about the issue of Indian rupees).
            1. +1
              April 9 2024 15: 33
              This is about the issue of Indian rupees).

              Yes, they just couldn’t find anything to take from the Indians for oil other than rupees, but here they have cotton.
              1. +1
                April 9 2024 21: 44
                The question here is not what to take from the Indians for rupees. They always have something to take. But they said that they didn’t need rupees, they needed dollars.
              2. +1
                April 10 2024 08: 01
                You can bring in Hindu migrants and pay them in rupees.
        3. +1
          April 9 2024 23: 47
          During the war, the United States supplied the USSR with 106,893 million tons of cotton.
        4. 0
          April 14 2024 18: 47
          During the Second World War, the United States helped with cotton and lend-lease. Many thousand. tons Not all, of course, but a significant share.
    7. +2
      April 9 2024 12: 30
      What the Czechs did by promising Ukraine 4 million shells can only be called a scam. They simply staked out a number for themselves and went looking around the world for these same shells. It’s already clear that nothing really will work out, and God grant that Kyiv receives at least 1,5 million out of 4. After. May be. Half.
      A very strange statement. God forbid I get nothing at all.
    8. +1
      April 10 2024 01: 11
      FoBoss_VM. (Ivan).Yesterday, 04:48.New. your - “...But I wouldn’t be so optimistic. NATO is ready for a war with Russia, and will definitely start it. But there is a shortage of gunpowder, today there is a shortage, but tomorrow there is no shortage...”

      Totally agree with you. hi Sad. that they are now "reveling"
      Ukrov don’t have any shells. but they hit both at the front and at civilians. And...what isn't there!?
      - That. with technology wow! They want to find it. for example, strategic warehouses like US mines in Europe!
      - That’s the end... They’ll throw out a cry and gapotas from all over the world will come running
      The NATO members are just getting really hyped. I'm pushing myself and mobilizing...
      Once upon a time in the USSR I had hope. that the workers of Germany will not fight the USSR (WWII). And....We must be REALIST. excessive “philosophies” led to June 22, 1941. Are we all ready for the hard option!?
      Like apophyosis of apophygea. for dreamers soaring in the clouds "maybe, yes, I suppose"
      re-read. That. what they teach in military academies, incl. and NATO
      bully
      Sun Tzu - "The art of war. All war is based on lies." am .Specify the main provisions and date of writing:
      1.The art of war is vital for the state. It is a matter of life and death. the path leading to safety. or to destruction.
      2. All war is based on lies.
      2.It is impossible to control an army without taking off kid gloves.
      3.Before attacking an external enemy. get rid of all the troubles at home. and only then start the war.
      4. Forms of attack:
      - highest - interfere with performance enemy plans We have it. not plans ukrov. and mattresses and covers
      - important - to prevent the unification of enemy forces... any forces and forces from the EU to mercenaries, and especially the USA. Destroyed immediately upon crossing the borders of the former USSR.
      - attack on an enemy army in open battle
      - the worst thing according to Sun Tzu is to besiege cities protected by walls...
      R.S. No one has canceled the old eastern wisdom - “... a donkey with a bag of gold on its back took more fortresses and countries than the most powerful armies in the World!” Let's remember Gaddafi (Libya) and S (Iraq)addat.
      Whatever potential opponents of Russia mean. the main thing is that WE HAVE EVERYTHING we need and WE are ready to act toughly and progmatically. IF YOU HAVE YOUR STORY. An example is how North Korean leader Kim Jong-un said that Trump had actually declared war on North Korea. According to Kim Jong-un, the American crazy old man will have to be tamed with fire. And the puffed-up Trump was blown away
      soldier
  2. +14
    April 9 2024 04: 49

    In December - January 1940-41, a war game between blue and red was held at the USSR General Staff...
    The Blues were commanded by Zhukov smile.
    He crushed the blitzkrieg of the Red Army to smithereens, turning the fighting into a protracted conflict...subsequently, the Germans practically repeated his actions, inflicting a number of defeats on the Red Army.
    I wonder if similar games were held at the Russian General Staff before the North Military District in relation to NATO and the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
    1. -1
      April 9 2024 04: 56
      Did you miss anything? If anything, correct it.

      Look deeper...to grow cotton you need a good supply of water resources...and this is a big problem in China and Uzbekistan...it’s not for nothing that the Uzbeks sometimes lobby Russia to turn its rivers towards them.
      So it will not be possible to leapfrog this limitation of nature in cotton production...the volume of cotton grown and, accordingly, gunpowder is limited purely physically.
      1. +7
        April 9 2024 06: 25
        Not just cotton... Pulp is produced from wood and flax, and these productions are supported in Russia.
        1. +4
          April 9 2024 08: 49
          Quote: Zyablicev43
          Not just cotton... Pulp is produced from wood and flax, and these productions are supported in Russia.

          no cellulose from wood and flax can replace nitrocellulose from cotton. moreover, certain varieties and special cleaning. otherwise, there would not be such demand for cotton on the world market. Tama, chemical technologists, no worse
          1. +4
            April 9 2024 11: 19
            no cellulose from wood and flax can replace

            It will replace it, it’s just that the cost of obtaining cellulose NOT from cotton turns out to be many times more expensive, because cotton is practically pure cellulose, and in other cases multi-stage purification is required.
            1. +1
              April 9 2024 13: 35
              As far as I know, in some countries there has been long-term work on the production of the so-called. LMV-liquid propellant. Perhaps the SVO will push the process, and nitro gunpowder will simply become a thing of the past... Or something else.
          2. 0
            April 10 2024 19: 03
            "no cellulose from wood and flax can replace nitrocellulose from cotton"
            The cellulose in cotton, pine, or straw is exactly the same. The methods of obtaining are only different. and, by the way, there is no nitrocellulose in cotton at all, but the most common one, like everywhere else
      2. Qas
        0
        April 9 2024 12: 23
        Here in Russia, according to the Russian Weapons portal, work has been going on for a long time to produce gunpowder from flax and hemp.
    2. +4
      April 9 2024 05: 08
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Have similar games been played against NATO and the Ukrainian Armed Forces?

      Judging by the results and the delay of the SVO - NO! No.
      1. -3
        April 9 2024 09: 55
        “Judging by the results and the delay of the SVO - NO!” - well, they carried it out in 1940, so what? NGSH Zhukov looked at ITS actions and results in that game - but for some reason did nothing by June 22.06.1941, XNUMX
        1. 0
          April 9 2024 10: 43
          Quote: your1970
          for some reason I didn’t do anything by June 22.06.1941, XNUMX

          We will never know about this...
          1. +1
            April 9 2024 11: 22
            Everything is already obvious; Rokossovsky, in his characterization of Zhukov, described the reason in great detail.

            Z.Y.
            Naturally, this was compounded by the general chaos of the Red Army, lack of communication and a bunch of other reasons. Zhukov is not the only one to blame...
          2. 0
            April 11 2024 08: 59
            For several years now, most documents on 1941 have been freely available. Trotskyist utopians are still attacking Zhukov as in 1989-91. They forgot to change the manual.
      2. +1
        April 9 2024 13: 39
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        Have similar games been played against NATO and the Ukrainian Armed Forces?

        Judging by the results and the delay of the SVO - NO!

        undoubtedly were carried out, and based on the results the SVO is going on... 100 meters there and back and a couple more years... The war between Russia and Ukraine is not the only war in the world and not the last war between Russia and the West
    3. +6
      April 9 2024 05: 11
      Eh... in June 41 there was no continuous front... they fought the old fashioned way as in 1812... concentration and fortification of areas... which the Nazis simply bypassed and squeezed into cauldrons - in fact, they put the whole of Europe like that. Where you couldn’t take it head-on, they simply walked around. Yes, remember Poland... there the defensive lines were far from the border... the Poles tried to retreat under attack, but they were stupidly surrounded and eventually separated and the front collapsed.... The same thing in France... they just went around where the French were did not expect it and entered the operational space.

      In the domestic one, a continuous front appeared towards the end of the summer of 41. And the reliance on high-speed armored vehicles and so on showed the inconsistency of tactics.... because the plan was to attack, not defend.
      1. +4
        April 9 2024 12: 09
        Quote from Enceladus
        which the Nazis simply bypassed and squeezed into cauldrons - in fact, they put the whole of Europe this way.

        You are not right. The Wehrmacht knew how to very quickly and effectively break through any fortified areas, which it did with success.
        Quote from Enceladus
        in June 41 there was no continuous front... they fought the old fashioned way as in 1812... concentration and strengthening of areas...

        There were smart people in the German General Staff, they understood perfectly well that at that moment the most important thing for them was the SPEED of advancement, for this they had to move along normal roads, since the issue of supplying mechanized units at that moment became paramount
        Quote from Enceladus
        In France it’s the same... they just went around where the French didn’t expect and went into action simply.
        I don’t know why this opinion is being cultivated, but in fact the Germans quite successfully BREAKED through the Maginot Line, yes, where they were not particularly expected, but nevertheless
        1. 0
          April 9 2024 12: 28
          Quote: svp67
          You are not right. The Wehrmacht knew how to very quickly and effectively break through any fortified areas, which it did with success.

          The bulk of Wehrmacht tanks, even as of Barbarossa, were T1-3s, 4s were not (emnip) no more than a couple of hundred. Moreover, the T3 had, one might say, practically anti-machine gun armor (30-40mm squared practical good) and only after the French company did they take into account the experience and began to “coat” them with additional armor. booking.
          Guns... and hacking pillboxes was completely lacking. They simply broke through weaknesses and into operational space.
          Quote: svp67
          for this they had to move along normal roads, since the issue of supplying mechanized units at that moment became paramount

          Moreover, each mechanized brigade was self-sufficient... both infantry and its own artillery, engineering troops. An analogue of Napoleonic ones (I already forgot what they were called there). They could even act in isolation from the main troops. We have tanks separately, infantry separately... there was almost no mechanization. Most of the T-34/kv were abandoned due to technical breakdowns, lack of infantry and artillery support due to hundreds of kilometers of marches back and forth in attempts to close the holes.
          1. +2
            April 9 2024 12: 49
            Quote from Enceladus
            Guns... and hacking pillboxes was completely lacking.

            This question has been discussed for a long time and there are quite a few scientific works devoted to the story of how the Germans did it. Too lazy to read, listen to scientific pop.lectures on YouTube, by the same Isaev
            Quote from Enceladus
            Moreover, each mechanized brigade was self-sufficient... both infantry and its own artillery, engineering troops.

            The Germans' main operational-tactical unit was a tank division. Several battle groups were formed from its composition. And all this had to be constantly supplied with fuel, ammunition, food, and other material assets, damaged equipment and the wounded had to be evacuated back, as well as trophies
            Quote from Enceladus
            We have tanks separately, infantry separately... there was almost no mechanization.

            No, everything was also complete for us. The mechanized corps, their divisions and regiments had tanks, infantry, artillery and a full complement of units and reinforcement units, but I agree that their degree of operational maneuverability was very different, unlike the Germans
            1. +1
              April 9 2024 12: 54
              Quote: svp67
              Too lazy to read, listen to scientific pop.lectures on YouTube, by the same Isaev

              Yes, I’ve just forgotten the details... I shoveled a lot of things myself in my time... old age is not a joy request
              Quote: svp67
              No, everything was just as complete for us

              Yes, I wouldn’t say... we didn’t have complexity... tank units sometimes operated in isolation from the infantry and artillery because there really wasn’t any mechanization. Essentially, all counterattacks in the summer of 41 ended with the tanks simply being separated, falling into the pockets and, without support, simply being destroyed not even by the advanced units, but by the 2nd echelon, which essentially had no tanks, only infantry and artillery, including .h. anti-aircraft
            2. +1
              April 9 2024 13: 27
              Absolutely, in any rifle battalion there was a separate tank company. Plus an artillery division. And the division, even in 41, had two (!) artillery regiments.
    4. +5
      April 9 2024 05: 12
      Yes, and the Reds were commanded by General Pavlov, who initially lost to Zhukov “in exercises,” and six months later to von Bock.
      1. +3
        April 9 2024 13: 00
        Quote from Andy_nsk
        Yes, and the Reds were commanded by General Pavlov, who initially lost to Zhukov “in exercises”,

        Only then we had two team-strategic games, Zhukov won one, and Pavlov won the second
        Quote from Andy_nsk
        the Reds were commanded by General Pavlov,

        No, the Reds were commanded by Marshal Timoshenko and General Zhukov. And for that matter, it was the same Zhukov who gave his “go-ahead” to the fact that the fuel reserves of the NZ Western Front were stored near Baku and at the right moment the Mechanized Corps of the Western Front were left without fuel.
        1. 0
          April 11 2024 09: 14
          Zhukov gave the go-ahead for storing fuel reserves of the Western Front in Baku? But it’s okay that your “revolutionary” activities Dzhugashviland and Beria were taken to Baku, where the great prosecutor was also Vyshinsky started his "career".
          I would look for someone responsible among the revolutionaries listed, and would not present Zhukov as guilty of fuel fraud.
          1. 0
            April 11 2024 09: 36
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            I would look for someone responsible among the revolutionaries listed, and would not present Zhukov as guilty of fuel fraud.

            What kind of “machinations” are you talking about here?
            What about the concentration of all aviation in the border districts on several airfields, due to the fact that most of the airfields were under reconstruction? And the poor work in coordinating the Districts' cover plans, as a result of which the advancing Mech Corps interfered with each other during the advance?
            1. 0
              April 11 2024 09: 52
              It seems that they were talking about fuel from Baku. Or the lack thereof.
              1. 0
                April 11 2024 10: 00
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                It seems that they were talking about fuel from Baku.

                In that commentary, I indicated only one point out of many that did not allow our border Districts, which turned into Fronts, to reduce the border battle to at least a draw at the beginning of the war, otherwise there are many of these points and the fault of the people who carried out military planning and the main thing is them, at that moment was General Zhukov.
    5. +12
      April 9 2024 06: 28
      Well, yes, well, yes.... Zhukov himself wrote about this in detail in his memoirs.... For some reason, however, other evidence of Zhukov’s brilliant insight from other participants in the game has not been preserved. But Zhukov, who was appointed NGSH after these games, for some reason did not use the results of his own insight to prevent the catastrophe of the Red Army in the border battles at the beginning of the war...
    6. +2
      April 9 2024 07: 52
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I wonder if similar games were held at the Russian General Staff before the North Military District in relation to NATO and the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

      judging by what you can see - 0, shish tenths
    7. +1
      April 9 2024 09: 21
      I wonder if similar games were held at the Russian General Staff before the North Military District in relation to NATO and the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

      In one of the interviews 1 year ago, some journalist said that yes, such games are held at the General Staff.
    8. 0
      April 9 2024 13: 12
      I wonder if similar games were held at the Russian General Staff before the North Military District in relation to NATO and the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

      We held one game, there was either a parade in Kyiv in a week, or the Strategic Missile Forces were working and that was it, credits. That's where we parted ways
  3. +18
    April 9 2024 04: 56
    The term “shell famine” is well known to us from last year, when (may God bless them all) the commanders of the Wagner PMC and the director of the company, Evgeniy Prigozhin, began to draw everyone’s attention to this problem through the media
    Read less yellow newspapers. The problem was not shell hunger. Evgeniy asked for something slightly different.
    I came to understand that hunting gunpowder is still quite different from combat gunpowder and cannot replace it in the same machine gun cartridges
    Ummm - it’s not particularly different from a combat weapon, but rather in specifics. All gunpowders differ in their burning rate and progressiveness. So, hunting powders, due to the fact that the fastening in the case is minimal, there is no resistance to the movement of the projectile (bullets, buckshot, shot) and is provided only by the inertia of the projectile itself (no cutting into the rifling, overcoming the compression of the bullet) - are the highest speed powders.. so-called “pistol” and then in magnums only in small calibers such as 20/24 or 410 are created under 100 MPa. ordinary 12s according to the standard are only 65 MPa. In modern rifled rifle calibers, slow-burning gunpowder is used, because a simple barrel will develop... pressures reaching 350 and higher.
    What are we even talking about, what kind of global war with Russia, if the Europeans don’t have gunpowder for such a thing?
    I won’t shout caps and cheers... but seeing Nata’s plugs... I agree good
    Roman, overall a good article... but overall to the point. There would be more of these. hi
    1. +1
      April 9 2024 06: 46
      There will be war. When will TNC profits fall? Losses are washed away with blood. We follow Hollywood.
      Cortez is being filmed once again, without paying attention to the objections of Latinos. They will turn out with their “Tajiks”.
      Will our manizha be able to exalt the verb for our new homeland?
      And gunpowder is, first of all, labor. And chemical industry and manure (agricultural) and ten more related
      And the Plan for the Construction of the State and Society.
      1. +4
        April 9 2024 06: 49
        But it was interesting (c) You’ve been here since morning drinks ? laughing
  4. +9
    April 9 2024 04: 56
    The article is certainly interesting. But still, one should not so boldly argue that there will be no war. She's already coming. And the West is making every effort to ensure that the Ukrainian Reich does not lose. It is not for nothing that they are trying to turn all our neighbors against us. The same Kazakhstan and other former republics. Which supply us with the cotton we need so much.
    1. 0
      April 11 2024 09: 05
      It’s just that it doesn’t take into account that cluster ammunition has become the main type of ammunition for Ukraine. Their consumption is approximately four times lower for the same purposes, compared to high-explosive ones. In addition, the enemy uses non-contact detonation in the air, which also greatly increases the effectiveness of fire.
  5. +6
    April 9 2024 05: 20
    “Gunpowder in general is a problematic product; its basis is cotton, from which nitrocellulose for gunpowder is synthesized. Alas, it does not grow in Russia” -

    - "Military Review"
    News Yesterday 09:17
    The Russian defense industry has mastered the production of gunpowder from wood...
    ...
    1. +4
      April 9 2024 05: 32
      When Reich 3 began to run out of oil... and they couldn’t capture the Caucasus... they began to drive away coal.
      And cellulose is also not just cotton.

      Z.Y. I think in the next year prices will skyrocket for ear sticks and cotton pads/bandages lol
      1. +1
        April 9 2024 05: 48
        started to drive from coal
        They began producing oil from coal by the end of the 20s of the last century. It's called the "Fisher Process"
        1. +3
          April 9 2024 05: 52
          Yes, I know what it's called. It’s just that they reached a real industrial scale in 43 emnip, when at the end of 42 Edelweiss failed
      2. +4
        April 9 2024 07: 18
        They won't jump. All these cotton swabs and disks, as well as dressing bactericidal cotton bags, military ones, are made from corn cobs. My group had the opportunity to develop a technological line for the production of cellulose acetate for these purposes. Production has started.
        1. +1
          April 9 2024 07: 20
          Yes, that's true, just a laugh. Previously, yes, it was cellulose... but now... alas - and yes... even the fiber is very uncomfortable... it creaks, as if it hasn’t been lubricated for 100 years.
      3. -1
        April 9 2024 07: 19
        Cellulose also seems to be not only cotton. - There are also problems with forests in the EU - there is stupidly almost none of it
        1. 0
          April 9 2024 10: 52
          There is a forest there. The number and size of deforestation in Finland approximately corresponds to deforestation in Karelia. Just look at how many forests are cut down in the EU per year
          1. 0
            April 9 2024 11: 33
            In the early 2000s, the Finns calculated that at the current rate of forest consumption, their forests would last them for 4 years. They simply did not have time to plant trees.
            And they rushed to buy timber from the Russian Federation.
            Moreover, what is anecdotal about finnish Customs had an unspoken order to turn a blind eye to timber smuggling from the Russian Federation....
            There is no corruption in Finland - judging by its inclusion in 5 anti-corruption countries in the world, yeah yeah......
            1. 0
              April 10 2024 08: 05
              Russia is one of the largest exporters of round timber, not because there is no forest in Finland. By the way, if there is a shortage of timber in Europe, it is imported from Africa and Brazil. Congo is the leader in exports
              1. -1
                April 11 2024 06: 58
                This is exactly the case when a half-hearted chick is overseas...
                Transportation for 1000 km or 10 - adds a pretty penny to the cost
  6. +1
    April 9 2024 05: 21
    The guerrilla sabotage war died in its infancy.
    Judging by the euphoria in the Western media in 2022, the expectation was for a palace coup in Russia and the coming to power of pro-Western figures. That is why the refugees were easily allowed into the EU - they thought that in 2-3 months they would go home to count reparations and thank Europe. And apparently, the British, who turned the “refugees” away (otherwise there would have been several million of them here already), already knew something then.
    1. +1
      April 9 2024 05: 38
      It’s not just a calculation, but a specific rate. That everyone is tired of GDP was actively spread in November last year, that GDP is dead, now there is a terrorist attack, an attack in the Kursk and Belgorod regions, and not only - in the depths of Russia, including. An attempt to sow confusion. Yes, I’m already upholstering the doors of the military registration and enlistment office with the skin of the military commissar lol They don't let me in. I've been to the military registration and enlistment office more than once... but the queues there are so long.
      1. +3
        April 9 2024 06: 23
        I don’t understand.... there are huge lines of people liable for military service at our military registration and enlistment offices to sign up for a contract?
        1. +4
          April 9 2024 06: 33
          Quote: Rinat Khametov
          I don’t understand.... there are huge lines of people liable for military service at our military registration and enlistment offices to sign up for a contract?

          Moscow, I won’t talk about the military registration and enlistment office... I stood in line for an hour recently. Mostly men over 30, but there were also “girls”. Met someone. There are also “formers”... even with the “Chechen” one got into conversation. We passed the time while smoking and waiting. In general, it is true that people volunteer. The former conscripts were mainly looking to renew their registration. mostly students, etc. up to 25. There was one lady with a belt - of course I didn’t understand what she needed - it seemed like her husband was on his own, most likely for benefits. Well, there was a line of about 40 people.
          Z.Y, And I’m a plywood worker, they don’t let me in due to my health... They harassed me for six months almost from August to January and in the end I was refused... even though I was at the training camp and passed the standards.
      2. +1
        April 9 2024 06: 37
        Queues. Bribe takers are especially in a hurry.
        The former head of the Crimean Ministry of Culture Vera (Arina) Novoselskaya, convicted of bribery, wrote an application to serve in the military operation zone in a pre-trial detention center. This was reported by Arslan Khasavov, a member of the Public Monitoring Commission (POC) of Moscow.
        1. +7
          April 9 2024 06: 47
          Yes, yesterday we were crazy about the topic.... I would offer her a shell number for at least the D-30 laughing I'm afraid she won't be able to handle the castle number with her curves - she needs agility there feel
  7. +10
    April 9 2024 05: 25
    I will no longer reveal the secret that, along with the standard technology for the production of smokeless gunpowder from cotton, we have developed and are using technology using flax and sawdust... both are available in Russia. Thanks to the USSR
  8. +4
    April 9 2024 05: 32
    Yes seriously. The Spaniards will spend a year sharpening 100 shells, which were shot at Bakhmut in a week. The French will be looking for where to get cotton for gunpowder, including for these shells.

    There won't be a big war. NATO is not ready for it, this must be admitted today so that it does not cause excruciating pain tomorrow. Europe is not ready for a big war. Outside Europe - the USA and Türkiye - they have their own cockroaches and interests.


    Is this really true? There is an opinion that the reserves intended for waging local conflicts have been used up. No one opened the reserves of NATO countries intended for a major war. The storage bases of the US and Western European armed forces contain enough weapons to fight a war for many years. Another question is that these are emergency reserves, at least for now.
    1. +1
      April 9 2024 05: 49
      Quote from Eugene Zaboy
      There is an opinion that the reserves intended for waging local conflicts have been used up. No one opened the reserves of NATO countries intended for a major war

      Their locations are known. Any activity on them is in fact an indirect fact of aggression.
      Remember the first use of a dagger in the summer of 2022 on 404... an anti-nuclear bunker was hit, which, according to various sources, could have contained up to 500 thousand shells alone, not counting other weapons.
      1. +3
        April 9 2024 07: 55
        Their locations are known. Any activity on them is in fact an indirect fact of aggression.
        Remember the first use of a dagger in the summer of 2022 on 404... an anti-nuclear bunker was hit, which, according to various sources, could have contained up to 500 thousand shells alone, not counting other weapons.


        With this everything is clear and definite. We are talking about the potential capabilities of NATO countries to supply weapons to Ukraine. It is obvious that there are significant opportunities. The question is only in the political aspect. The US F-35 alone is capable of producing more than 160 units per year. Thousands of tanks and armored vehicles are in storage, in varying states. Shells and missiles are also currently stored in warehouses. The only thing holding them back from transferring weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is the threat of a big war, which is real. Apparently, the United States is not attracted to this prospect.
        1. +3
          April 9 2024 08: 07
          Because everything is “targeted”. In the event of a global conflict, there is no point in shooting at silos, everything is aimed at industrial centers, etc. main storage areas for convection weapons. take 68545 - the targets there have been designated for a long time and a preemptive strike against it simply does not make sense and should be done from xx carriers, incl. divided - the states will not be able to do anything, even if submarines are driven into the Black Sea and missiles are placed on the eastern borders.
        2. +1
          April 9 2024 10: 15
          "Thousands of tanks and armored vehicles are in storage, in varying states. " - that's why England cannibalizes its Challengers - reducing their number to the level BELOW Bovington Tank Museum?
          Only the USSR was capable of storing such a number of tanks in reserve; no one else could or can do that.
          About the only tank plant in the USA, sales are not even funny, Abrams is not a T-26 or even a T-34...
          1. 0
            April 10 2024 01: 24
            - is that why England cannibalizes its Challengers - reducing their number to a level BELOW the Bovington Tank Museum?
            Only the USSR was capable of storing such a number of tanks in reserve; no one else could or can do that.
            About the only tank plant in the USA, sales are not even funny, Abrams is not a T-26 or even a T-34...


            However, tanks were found in good condition to create bases in the border areas of Poland, Romania and the Baltic states. So, don't underestimate the situation. What prevents them from transferring some of the tanks to Ukraine, from those located along the eastern borders of the bloc?
            1. -1
              April 10 2024 15: 38
              However, tanks were found in good condition to create bases in the border areas of Poland, Romania and the Baltic states. So, don't underestimate the situation. the discussion was about THOUSANDS of tanks. At the bases in the border areas, God forbid if there are a hundred or 2 Abrams...
              1. 0
                April 10 2024 23: 48
                the discussion was about THOUSANDS of tanks. At the bases in the border areas, God forbid if there are a hundred or 2 Abrams...


                This means they are in no hurry to go to war.
      2. 0
        April 14 2024 19: 04
        I apologize, but they don’t put shells in anti-nuclear bunkers. It’s cumbersome and difficult to drag/drag along narrow corridors. More humidity...
    2. +3
      April 9 2024 10: 29
      Quote from Eugene Zaboy
      No one opened the reserves of NATO countries intended for a major war.

      And they remain - after a quarter of a century of resting on the laurels of victory in the Cold War and optimizing defense spending?
      Take the same Germany. In the early 90s, with its warehouses of equipment, weapons, ammunition and logistics, it could equip a couple more Bundeswehrs. And in the mid-2010s, KMW had to buy back Leo-2s previously delivered to other countries - because the Leos available in Germany were not enough to fulfill the contract for modernization to version 2A7V.
      Of the 104 "new" tanks planned for modernization according to the Leopard 2A7V variant, 68 should be Leopard 2A4 vehicles, redeemed by KMW from the presence of the Swedish army, 16 - Leopard 2A6 tanks, similarly redeemed from the presence of the Dutch army, and another 20 - planned for completion 20 Leopard 2A7 tanks of the Bundeswehr.
      © bmpd
      I'm not even talking about the Panzerwaffe, which has shrunk to 225 tanks. Moreover, this is not some kind of political twists of Frau Gynecologist, but the result of her precise implementation of the HEER2011 plan drawn up even before her.
      1. 0
        April 10 2024 01: 29
        I'm not even talking about the Panzerwaffe, which has shrunk to 225 tanks. Moreover, this is not some kind of political twists of Frau Gynecologist, but the result of her precise implementation of the HEER2011 plan drawn up even before her.


        Your words, yes to God's ears. However, this is good, it means they are not preparing for a big war with Russia.
        1. 0
          April 10 2024 14: 08
          Quote from Eugene Zaboy
          Your words, yes to God's ears. However, this is good, it means they are not preparing for a big war with Russia.

          In preparation - since 2016
          ... in April 2016, German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen unveiled a more detailed and ambitious plan to strengthen the Bundeswehr by 2020, according to which the number of tanks should be increased from 225 to 320, but now all 104 additional tanks planned for acquisition should be modernized machines according to the new version of the Leopard 2A7V.
          © bmpd
          In the process of this preparation, the yawning depth of the results of optimization of the aircraft and mobile reserves became clear, when out of 104 “new” tanks, 84 had to be purchased from the Swedes and the Dutch.
          1. 0
            April 10 2024 23: 42
            In the process of this preparation, the yawning depth of the results of optimization of the aircraft and mobile reserves became clear, when out of 104 “new” tanks, 84 had to be purchased from the Swedes and the Dutch.


            The war with Russia presupposes the transfer of the economy to a war footing. In fact, they must make decisions about restoring arms production volumes sufficient for a war with Russia. No one has made such decisions yet and there is serious opposition to this. So far, for Ukraine, resources are collected according to the principle - “from the world, piece by piece.”
    3. +2
      April 9 2024 11: 30
      Everything has an expiration date, and therefore stored weapons with gunpowder need to be disposed of from time to time. But if you give Ukraine fresh food now, then tomorrow you will have to buy it for yourself at different prices.
  9. +4
    April 9 2024 05: 43
    I remember well in 1991, after the unification of the two Germanys, the military arsenal of the former GDR was calculated. So, in the event of war, the East Germans could fight without replenishing their supplies for 13 years. In Bonn, the capital of that time, people clutched their heads, not knowing where to put it all wink
    1. +3
      April 9 2024 06: 05
      And then it was not like it is now... the mass flow occurred mainly during a breakthrough of the front and shock operations. The rest of the time, the fronts were exclusively in position. Art preparation means guns 122mm and above. Ok, even a 2-hour artillery barrage. 2-3 thousand guns on the breakthrough line... well, the rate of fire is prohibitive... 5 rounds per minute. it turns out 120-150 thousand shells. And this is not every day... but once a month at least. This is despite the fact that, as of 41 years before the start of the domestic war, the reserves totaled about 60 million... of which no more than 30% were large-caliber
    2. 0
      April 9 2024 06: 25
      And where did they go? Destroyed?
      1. 0
        April 9 2024 11: 31
        They took it to the sausage market, to Transnistria.
    3. +1
      April 9 2024 07: 22
      they grabbed their heads, not knowing what to do with all this wink - but quickly remembered that there is Africa, Afghanistan and other piquant places where there are always not enough shells...
  10. +3
    April 9 2024 05: 50
    Quote: Magic Archer
    The same Kazakhstan and other former republics. Which supply us with the cotton we need so much.

    Finnish ministers came to the Kazakhs...one of the topics of the negotiations was tightening sanctions and ways to circumvent these sanctions against Russia...so hehehe he’s still a member of the CSTO.
    In words for friendship, but in reality they banned the World card...what is it like.
    1. +1
      April 9 2024 11: 33
      The fact that our map of the World is limited is our own fault. Why is it difficult to open your own bank there strictly for settlements with the Russian Federation? Why set up the Kazakhs and then be offended by them?
  11. +2
    April 9 2024 06: 17
    Just the other day there was a note that Russian scientists have learned to make gunpowder from wood...
  12. +2
    April 9 2024 06: 19
    Gunpowder is generally a problematic product; its basis is cotton, from which nitrocellulose for gunpowder is synthesized. Alas, it does not grow in Russia. During the Soviet era, all cotton came from the Uzbek and Tajik SSR, today, as you understand, the issue is not an easy one. And foreign exchange.
    There was an article that they have now begun to produce it using flax, which grows here and costs several times less.
  13. fiv
    +1
    April 9 2024 06: 49
    Gavrila suffered from gangrene,
    Gavrila came down with gangrene.
  14. 0
    April 9 2024 07: 18
    In 2020, we needed the blitzkrieg more than they did; it was planned and did not work out. Long, multi-year, sluggish military operations that exhaust Russia are precisely what our enemies benefit from more than anyone else. Therefore, they provide just enough funds so that the front does not collapse and not a shell more.
  15. +1
    April 9 2024 07: 31
    Here over the weekend they showed a report on this topic: we have learned how to make gunpowder from flax! No cotton needed. From flax it turns out even more powerful, propellant charges give more energy, the energy of the explosion is greater than TNT. We will definitely not be left without gunpowder.
  16. +3
    April 9 2024 07: 50
    Demand creates supply, and not vice versa. There will be gunpowder, tanks, rockets and everything you need.
  17. 0
    April 9 2024 08: 00
    A couple of years ago I read that we had found a substitute for cotton for the production of gunpowder, thereby completely eliminating the dependence. I didn’t attach any importance to that article and don’t remember the details, but it said that Russia had already switched to new, its own raw materials for the production of nitrocellulose.
    1. +2
      April 9 2024 08: 33
      We have found a substitute for cotton for the production of gunpowder, thereby completely eliminating the dependence. I didn’t attach any importance to that article and don’t remember the details, but it said that Russia had already switched to a new

      Most likely, everything remains in words...
  18. +5
    April 9 2024 08: 23
    Author, better write an article about the “consumption” of armored vehicles by the Russian troops in the Northern Military District. Just count how much of it we are now losing per day and how soon the army will be left without it at this rate.
    1. +2
      April 9 2024 10: 50
      armored vehicles are also riveted in full
    2. +1
      April 9 2024 11: 36
      It is forbidden!!! Using this figure, one can indirectly assess the dynamics of manpower losses. And this is a secret!!!
  19. +1
    April 9 2024 08: 33
    I believe that this year friendly gunpowder producers need to take care of having a supply of chemicals to combat the main pests of cotton: common (cotton) spider mite, tobacco thrips, aphids (acacia, melon, large cotton), winter bollworm, cotton bollworm, caradrina. Otherwise, the enemy will not take advantage. If only they could send a probe towards the United States with these pests, they might not even want to fight.
  20. +1
    April 9 2024 08: 47
    In one classic phrase: “It’s hard to fight—you’ve run out of cartridges.” (C), E. Letov. (or Cherny Lukich, whoever you like)
  21. +6
    April 9 2024 08: 50
    In fact, I got the following impression: where they planned the conflict on the other side, they miscalculated. Yes, I turned it back two and a half years, looked at what experts and “experts” in the world were saying about a possible Russia-Ukraine confrontation and came to the conclusion that almost everyone agreed that in two weeks the Russian army would be in Kyiv. Or even earlier.

    The theme of the blitzkrieg sounded powerful and even, and starting from it, they began to prepare counteraction. Yes exactly.

    The blitzkrieg did not take place in 2022. It doesn't matter for what reason. The guerrilla sabotage war died in its infancy.

    Europe can't cope with the war! They really needed a blitzkrieg, because then they could strangle Russia with sanctions, throwing firewood on the smoldering fire of “popular resistance.”

    But no, it didn't work out. And now ALL mighty Europe can do nothing to oppose Russia with its two rogue allies Iran and North Korea? Seriously?

    Yes seriously.

    It is through these Overton windows that theories about CPP are born.
    It turns out that Russia needed a blitzkrieg in Europe, not Russia, a protracted war is actually a complete benefit, the sabotage war is dead, and all drone attacks, arson of electrical equipment on railways, gas pipelines, murders of officers and so on are nothing more than enemy disinformation.
    1. +7
      April 9 2024 09: 22
      I would also like to ask Skomorokhov, does he consider himself an expert or “experts”? And then me too
      unscrewed it two and a half years ago, looked at what experts and “experts” in the world were saying about a possible confrontation between Russia and Ukraine

      Here, for example, is Skomorokhov’s article “In what ways are the Armed Forces of Ukraine superior to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?” from 06.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX. And in it:
      In order to enter into a war with Russia and hold out there for more than a week, the Armed Forces of Ukraine must be reformed and equipped as if it were the army of a decent country. We need a strategy, we need tactics, we need modern weapons and people trained to work with these weapons.
      If you comply with all this, and even add a normal military budget to this, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine will really be able to become an armed force capable of something more than mastering handouts from the West.
      It is a pity that I will not live to see this significant and important event.

      In order to have at least something to oppose the Russian army, the under-army of the Ukrainian Armed Forces must have somewhat greater means than anti-tank systems and UAVs.

      So the incoming motorized rifle and tank troops will not meet such full-fledged resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      Just the operation against Ukraine will be large-scale and very fast.

      Of course, if Russian tanks were perlied in columns, without any cover, then the Ukrainian soldiers would have shown themselves. But we're not so into science fiction hit, right?

      The conflict in Donbass almost immediately began to resemble the First World War, its initial phase. No aviation.
      Excuse me, but who said that the Russian army would fight on the principles of a century ago?

      But, for example, Skomorokhov’s article “Farewell, old Ukraine!” from 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX. And in it:
      But we will talk about what will happen tomorrow, because “today” is actually over for Ukraine

      It is very pleasant to realize that the plan for Ukrainian air defense that we made just recently was fully justified. And all that remains for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to rely on is the “Stingers”

      Now the air over Ukraine is at the complete disposal of the Russian Aerospace Forces, and we can seriously propose to stop even the appearance of resistance

      And now, when all our analytical calculations, which said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not capable of anything, are being confirmed, it is worth doing forecasts for the future.

      The West will not help Ukraine. It is obvious.

      I could go on for so long, but I think this is enough for readers to draw certain conclusions.
      1. +2
        April 9 2024 10: 18
        A scoring knockdown, but the audience wants the match to continue.
        1. +1
          April 9 2024 10: 32
          I can only advise viewers to pass all information through a sieve of healthy skepticism. Why develop this very healthy skepticism, it does not come from nothing.
          1. +2
            April 9 2024 11: 40
            95% of people do not have critical thinking, unfortunately, nothing can be done about it. This is still an optimistic assessment...
      2. +1
        April 9 2024 14: 02
        Hey, you dunked Roman, my dear)
    2. +1
      April 9 2024 11: 39
      Do you think that from acts of sabotage in the rear, there would be fewer losses? Especially considering the abundance of potential saboteurs with portable weapons.
      1. +1
        April 9 2024 11: 50
        Do you think that from acts of sabotage in the rear, there would be fewer losses?

        I believe that the author is wrong in the statement that "guerrilla warfare died in its infancy."
        1. +1
          April 9 2024 11: 51
          Perhaps you are right, but in order to kill partisanism in the bud, you need a total cleansing of the territory, which is what actually happens in trench warfare.
  22. +4
    April 9 2024 08: 53
    I read the article, read the comments and here’s what I want to say: author, stop talking nonsense about the shortage of something in NATO.
    They do not have any shortages, just as there are no technical problems with increasing military production, literally NO AT ALL. The fact that the United States is seeking to reduce its supplies to Ukraine and “return” them to Europe has completely different reasons, and these reasons are purely economic.
    I think the main reason is that the size of the gold and foreign exchange assets of the Central Bank of Ukraine, which most likely were withdrawn/exported as security for the return of invested funds by Ukraine, does not satisfy the United States today. And since it is impossible for them to abandon Ukraine, the United States is putting pressure on the European Union, demanding to increase supplies and use the stolen assets of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation as collateral.
    As for the shortage of gunpowder, go to the website of any hunting store, there are plenty of cartridges there, both domestic and foreign.
    1. -1
      April 9 2024 10: 20
      As for the shortage of gunpowder, go to the website of any hunting store, there are plenty of cartridges there, both domestic and foreign." - cost did you see any cartridges????
      1. +1
        April 9 2024 11: 43
        Have you seen the cost of ammunition????

        Where... he's not a hunter, but most likely an economist.
      2. +2
        April 9 2024 14: 47
        his1970 (Sergey).
        But cost, as well as quality, is a completely different story. Imports are of high quality, but are expensive because they are not imported directly. Domestic ones are of worse quality but are quite affordable. I have an imported rifled carbine, so I know what I’m talking about.
  23. +1
    April 9 2024 08: 57
    The world is definitely heading towards war, and if you are not prepared today, you will be prepared tomorrow. There is a main question: is the West preparing for war or not? And the obvious answer is: yes, it is getting ready.

    We already made our powerful contribution to the common cause: “if only there is no war, we will crush our country in peacetime” in 1991, and that’s where it all started.

    There is only one way to avoid war: overwhelming superiority.
    But we never strived for this. This is the lot of the USA or China.
    1. +1
      April 9 2024 14: 49
      You know there is a proverb: “Under a lying stone, water does not flow.”
  24. +5
    April 9 2024 09: 19
    The failed “blitzkrieg” is almost an achievement of the Russian Federation. Let us remind the author that already in Istanbul in March 2022, the Russian Federation was ready to return Donbass to Ukraine, which leads us to assume that there were no preparations for war here at all. The “show of force” was supposed to remain a demonstration. However, the West did not accept any concessions and began to fight in earnest, as a result of which the Russian Federation has already lost a significant part of its Black Sea Fleet. How can these losses be made up for if the cruiser Moskva was a Soviet “galosh”, the kind they don’t make anymore? And what prevents NATO from observing the erosion of Russian military potential, and when a favorable moment comes, striking with its own forces? For example, according to some estimates, the Russian Federation produces 130 cruise missiles per month, but one Arleigh Burke has 56 of them. The United States has 60 such destroyers, with a total salvo of 3 missiles. In order to produce such a quantity, the Russian military-industrial complex will have to work for 360 years, finding and consuming gunpowder, electronics and other components, but at the same time the United States can only bring the destroyers to Turkey or Poland.
    1. +1
      April 9 2024 09: 58
      Quote: Boris Sergeev
      For example, according to some estimates, the Russian Federation produces 130 cruise missiles per month, but one Arleigh Burke has 56 of them. The United States has 60 such destroyers, with a total salvo of 3 missiles. In order to produce such a quantity, the Russian military-industrial complex will have to work for 360 years, finding and consuming gunpowder, electronics and other components, but at the same time the United States can only bring the destroyers to Turkey or Poland.

      I agree with everything in the above quote. But it’s not worth comparing the potentials of the Kyrgyz Republic of the Russian Federation and the United States at all. The US missile defense on frigates must be compared with the potential of anti-ship missiles on Russian submarines and aircraft, as well as with air defense missiles. Entering Turkey or Poland, I doubt that it will allow reloading the entire ammo capacity of the ArliBurks mentioned above, without preliminary preparation of these bases, i.e. saturating them with missiles. This, in turn, is unlikely to go unnoticed by our intelligence. But these are all lyrics and interesting thoughts on a free topic, nothing more. Simply because the war between the Russian Federation and NATO cannot be only conventional. First of all, tactical nuclear weapons will fly to bases in Europe, from all carriers...
      1. +2
        April 9 2024 10: 18
        Are you sure that tactical nuclear weapons will fly to bases in Europe? Apparently, our intelligence does not go unnoticed by the supply of Western weapons to Ukraine, but nothing flies along the delivery routes. There is no “grain corridor”, but more is being transported through the Black Sea to Odessa than in 2022. The Russian Federation is watching.
        1. +1
          April 9 2024 10: 28
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          Are you sure that tactical nuclear weapons will fly to bases in Europe?

          Not sure. But otherwise our country simply will not exist.
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          Apparently, our intelligence does not go unnoticed by the supply of Western weapons to Ukraine, but nothing flies along the delivery routes.

          The USSR even supplied fighter jets to Vietnam. US intelligence probably played the fool too. The USA also supplied the Mujahideen with a lot of things, and the USSR intelligence also did not notice anything...
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          There is no “grain corridor”, but more is being transported through the Black Sea to Odessa than in 2022. The Russian Federation is watching.

          But here there is pure agreement, only unspoken. One can only guess what was changed for what.
          1. +5
            April 9 2024 10: 45
            Sorry, but it’s unlikely that comparisons with Vietnam and Afghanistan are correct, because what was supplied to the North Vietnamese or Mujahideen was flown through “expeditionary forces” and not through, say, Belgorod. The territory of the Russian Federation is under attack, which, in fact, is grounds for declaring war. At least that's what the Defense Law says. True, the law is not written for the “guarantors”.
            1. +1
              April 9 2024 11: 01
              Quote: Boris Sergeev
              Sorry, but it’s unlikely that comparisons with Vietnam and Afghanistan are correct, because what was supplied to the North Vietnamese or Mujahideen was flown through “expeditionary forces” and not through, say, Belgorod. The territory of the Russian Federation is under attack, which, in fact, is grounds for declaring war. At least that's what the Defense Law says. True, the law is not written for the “guarantors”.

              I completely agree here. But the Russian Federation cannot be compared with the USSR, both in terms of political will and military and industrial potential. That is why the showdown is not somewhere else, but already on our borders. But if NATO is directly involved in a conflict, then this is a direct threat to the existence, physical existence, of our elites and the guarantor as well. And in this case, completely different layouts and mathematics begin.
              Well I think so...
              By the way, our drivers openly talk about this with our hands and say that in the event of a direct threat to the existence of the state (and for them, the state is themselves), we will use nuclear weapons. And in this case, it seems to me, this is no longer empty blah blah blah.
      2. +2
        April 9 2024 10: 37
        Quote: Zoer
        The US missile defense system on frigates must be compared with the potential of anti-ship missiles on Russian submarines and aircraft, as well as with air defense missiles.

        The potential of anti-ship missiles on aircraft is now purely speculative. Due to the lack of naval aviation in the Russian Federation, as well as reconnaissance and target designation.
        1. +1
          April 9 2024 10: 41
          Quote: Alexey RA
          The potential of anti-ship missiles on aircraft is now purely speculative. Due to the lack of naval aviation in the Russian Federation, as well as reconnaissance and target designation.

          The anti-ship missile carrier can be Su-34, Tu-22, Tu-95, etc. Regarding the Central Control Center, if I’m not mistaken, the Liana ICRC is already functioning.
          1. +1
            April 9 2024 13: 33
            Quote: Zoer
            The anti-ship missile carrier can be Su-34, Tu-22, Tu-95, etc.

            They can. In theory.
            The problem is that this does not make them naval aviation. It’s the same as giving one of the squad’s motorized riflemen a T-5000 and calling him a sniper. smile

            Working on ships is a highly specialized task for which the Navy had an MRA. But it was liquidated more than ten years ago by transfer to the Air Force. The reason for the liquidation is the almost complete extinction of this aviation in the Navy (out of all the MRA transferred to the Air Force, the Air Force managed to scrape together enough crews and equipment for only a couple of squadrons).
            Quote: Zoer
            ICRC Liana is already operational.

            EMNIP, the active component of the system is so far limited to one spacecraft. And in the passive component, one of the spacecraft has been flying since 2009.
            1. +1
              April 9 2024 13: 53
              Quote: Alexey RA
              It’s the same as giving one of the squad’s motorized riflemen a T-5000 and calling him a sniper. smile

              I don’t know, I wouldn’t say that.
              Quote: Alexey RA
              EMNIP, the active component of the system is so far limited to one spacecraft. And in the passive component, one of the spacecraft has been flying since 2009.

              EMNIP, there should be only two active satellites, and there is reason to believe that for a limited theater of operations one will be enough.
              1. +1
                April 9 2024 14: 06
                Quote: Zoer
                I don’t know, I wouldn’t say that.

                Exactly. The crews of the Su-34, Tu-22M3 and Tu-95MS work against ground targets. Tu-95MS are still training on the main profile - how third head Strategic nuclear forces.
                But almost all of their work consists of entering the designated area and releasing the combat load. Neither headquarters nor crews are trained in working against an actively moving target, breaking through the long-range air defense line of a naval formation, and launching a missile attack on enemy ships in cooperation with SSGNs. YES this is simply not necessary, it has its own tasks, and the land IBA even more so.
                1. +1
                  April 9 2024 14: 18
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  But almost all of their work consists of entering the designated area and releasing the combat load. Neither headquarters nor crews are trained in working against an actively moving target, breaking through the long-range air defense line of a naval formation, and launching a missile attack on enemy ships in cooperation with SSGNs. YES this is simply not necessary, it has its own tasks, and the land IBA even more so.

                  Do you know how the Liana ICRC system works and how it interacts with modern anti-ship missiles? So the old anti-ship missiles were launched into the approximate area where the KUG/AUG was located, and then the anti-ship missile itself operated, with its autopilot and seeker.
                  What kind of long range of naval air defense are we talking about, if even Soviet anti-ship missiles with the Legend hit 300-500 km? Therefore, it is not entirely clear to me how the work of MRA in modern conditions may differ from
                  their job is to enter the designated area and release the combat load.
                  1. +1
                    April 9 2024 15: 11
                    Quote: Zoer
                    So the old anti-ship missiles were launched into the approximate area where the KUG/AUG was located, and then the anti-ship missile itself operated, with its autopilot and seeker.

                    And even in those “fat” years - with all the satellite, aviation and radio-technical reconnaissance, when the Pacific Fleet needed to “show the flag” of a real AUG that suddenly appeared opposite Vilyuchinsk, reconnaissance first again lost this AUG, and then the MRA flew into thin air.
                    And now we have one active satellite that revolves around the Earth in an hour and a half. In the best case, we will discover the AUG on the first pass, and on the second we will clarify its general course. And that’s it, further data will be given only when the trajectory again covers the desired area.
                    And at this time, the AUG, which knows the flight schedule very well, changes course and speed. And our raised missile carriers reach the launch line - and fire wonderfully at the target area. An empty area.
                    Quote: Zoer
                    What kind of long range of naval air defense are we talking about, if even Soviet anti-ship missiles with the Legend hit 300-500 km?

                    Exactly from the patrol zone of the forward duty pair of CAP AUG. And 300 km from the warrant is generally the patrol line of the Hokai. smile
                    1. +1
                      April 9 2024 15: 47
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      And even in those “fat” years - with all the satellite, aviation and radio-technical reconnaissance, when the Pacific Fleet needed to “show the flag” of a real AUG that suddenly appeared opposite Vilyuchinsk, reconnaissance first again lost this AUG, and then the MRA flew into thin air.

                      The reasons for the Soviet “Pearl Harbor” - Flitex 82 need to be understood in more detail, but to call those components of satellite reconnaissance “Fat” in comparison with modern ones is hard to come by. If only because the capabilities of both satellites and anti-ship missiles have changed greatly.
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      And now we have one active satellite that revolves around the Earth in an hour and a half. In the best case, we will discover the AUG on the first pass, and on the second we will clarify its general course. And that’s it, further data will be given only when the trajectory again covers the desired area.

                      In 1,5 hours, the AUG will travel a maximum of 100 km; to adjust the launch line, the aircraft will cover these 100 km in a few minutes, and only if required by the parameters of the anti-ship missile, but the flight mission for the missiles is simply adjusted and that’s it.
                      There is no need to think in terms of 50 years ago, when missiles in flight could not be retargeted)))
                      1. +1
                        April 9 2024 16: 15
                        Quote: Zoer
                        In 1,5 hours, the AUG will travel a maximum of 100 km; to adjust the launch line, the aircraft will cover these 100 km in a few minutes

                        Where will it go? Where should the plane fly? The satellite left - and left for a long time. All that the headquarters has is the approximate course and speed of the AUG at the time of the last passage of the Cosmos. And it’s not a fact that they will remain the same after the satellite leaves. And then the fog of war hangs over the ocean again.
                        By the way, do not forget about the time interval between the detection of the AUG and the departure of aircraft. And also the flight time from the airfield to the launch area with oversized cargo on an external sling (anti-ship missiles or anti-ship missiles + PTB). It won't take an hour and a half, but six.
                        The option of keeping a couple of air regiments on duty in the air is not considered absolutely fantastic. smile
                        Quote: Zoer
                        and then if required according to the parameters of the anti-ship missiles, otherwise the flight mission for the missiles is simply adjusted and that’s it.

                        Corrected where? Who will give out at least the approximate coordinates of the AUG after its last detection by a satellite? Or will they throw dice at headquarters - which square did the AUG go to, where to set the launch line, and where to send the anti-ship missiles?
                        And I still don’t remember about the miracle of hostile technology - the AWACS-EW combination, which even at sea level sees everything 300 km away.
                      2. +1
                        April 9 2024 16: 23
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        will he overcome it? Where should the plane fly? The satellite left - and left for a long time. All that the headquarters has is the approximate course and speed of the AUG at the time of the last passage of the Cosmos. And it’s not a fact that they will remain the same after the satellite leaves. And then the fog of war hangs over the ocean again.

                        On the first pass, Liana detects an AUG/KUG approaching our shores and bases. Let’s allow the planes to fly for an hour before the anti-ship missile launch line. After half an hour the planes take off. An hour later they fly up to the launch area, at the same moment the satellite enters a new orbit, they issue a correction according to the control center, the rockets go, or a maneuver for a few minutes, and the rockets go. Are there any difficulties here?
                      3. +1
                        April 10 2024 01: 07
                        On the first pass, Liana detects an AUG/KUG approaching our shores and bases.

                        Liana is very different. There is a passive Lotus, and there is 1 (one!) active low-orbit Peony. The Lotus will not notice anything if the Americans maintain radio silence at the time of the flyby, and they will. Not to mention the fact that the Americans have strong unification in equipment, it will be impossible to say whether this is a lone destroyer or the entire AUG. There is nothing to even say about the use of traps and decoys. If we are talking about Peony, then he has a relatively narrow viewing range, and it is quite possible that on the second orbit he will not see anything. Not to mention decoys and traps.
                        Let’s allow the planes to fly for an hour before the anti-ship missile launch line. After half an hour the planes take off. An hour later they fly up to the launch area

                        Forget these numbers. The moment of detection of the AUG is unknown in advance, so do not think that the aviation in full force stands in full readiness for an indefinitely long time at airfields with ammunition and with pilots sitting inside. The airfields are not located directly on the shore; it is unknown how far they will be in relation to the AUG; they will not necessarily have to fly along the shortest trajectory to the sea.
                        The launch milestone is also not so simple. For a real defeat, it is necessary to take into account that there must be launches from different directions, which means that the launch boundaries must be determined in advance, taking into account the current location of the AUG and possible targets along the missiles’ flight path - otherwise they will go to some tanker or supply vessel that happens to be on the way.
                      4. 0
                        April 10 2024 09: 07
                        Quote from solar
                        If we are talking about Peony, then he has a relatively narrow viewing range, and it is quite possible that on the second orbit he will not see anything.

                        Those. Do you think he doesn’t even see the 200 km strip? And at the same time, the entire system that should control the entire world ocean consists of only 2 spacecraft? Am I missing something?
                        Quote from solar
                        Forget these numbers.

                        These figures are all approximate and taken from the air. only to outline the principle of bringing anti-ship missiles to the launch line and adjusting the control center on the next orbit of the satellite’s passage. I wrote above about the scanning range of less than 200 km. I also already wrote about the possibility of correcting the satellite’s orbit.
                        I would also like to remind you that in addition to the very specific Liana, there are also a bunch of dual-use satellites that are also quite capable of monitoring enemy AUGs.
                        PS: I in no way justify the destruction of our MRA; it was certainly a powerful and useful tool. But I still wouldn’t say that we don’t have such a tool now, albeit in a truncated form, and like everything else in the Russian Federation in comparison with the USSR.
                      5. 0
                        April 10 2024 09: 26
                        Liana is not a satellite, but a system. Satellites Lotus and Peony. Peony is still alone. And adjusting the orbit does not mean flying as you want, like on an airplane.
                        And at the same time, the entire system that should control the entire world ocean consists of only 2 spacecraft? Am I missing something?

                        Nothing. But this does not mean that the information will be updated in real time. And the problem of false targets is clear, additional reconnaissance is required, without this there is no point in raising aviation.
                        These figures are all approximate and taken from the air. only to outline the principle of bringing anti-ship missiles to the launch line

                        They are tailored to the situation. But in themselves they are unreal.
                      6. 0
                        April 10 2024 09: 44
                        Quote from solar
                        And adjusting the orbit does not mean flying as you want, like on an airplane.

                        I know very well what it means to adjust the orbit. The satellite rotates perpendicular to the plane of the Earth's equator, because The earth rotates, then on the next orbit the satellite scans a different area, so you can adjust the orbit so that on the next orbit the satellite passes over the same area, then the AUG will not be able to clearly escape observation.
                        Quote from solar
                        But this does not mean that the information will be updated in real time.

                        It's like this won't update in real time? Why then is such a control system needed at all?
                        Quote from solar
                        And the problem of false targets is clearly

                        What's the problem with decoys? Do you carry full-size mock-ups of decoys with you? It may be possible to deceive this RTR with false targets, but in the optical and radar range it is doubtful to emit a two hundred meter barge)))

                        Quote from solar
                        They are tailored to the situation. But in themselves they are unreal.

                        So it's not about the numbers. And in principle, guidance and correction of the control center. The principle is working. The numbers can differ at least 10 times. There will simply be more time and more orbits over the same area of ​​the Earth.
                      7. 0
                        April 10 2024 14: 03
                        Quote: Zoer
                        The satellite rotates perpendicular to the plane of the Earth's equator, because The earth rotates, then on the next orbit the satellite scans a different area

                        Nope, not perpendicular.
                        The angle of inclination of the orbital plane to the plane of the Earth’s equator is 67,1°
                        Quote: Zoer
                        So, you can adjust the orbit so that on the next orbit the satellite passes over the same area, then the AUG will not be able to get out of observation unambiguously.

                        “Progress” with fuel reserves is not shown on the diagram. smile
                        Quote: Zoer
                        It's like this won't update in real time? Why then is such a control system needed at all?

                        In its current form - only as a warning system: "in such and such a square there is a group of ships similar to AUG, further clarification - after -eleven turns".
                        If the fleet had a crowd of R and RC aircraft carrying out additional reconnaissance of targets in the Union, then in conjunction with them the Liana could work normally.
                        And for round-the-clock surveillance - this is for “Legend”. 30 satellites with nuclear power plants on board. Peaceful Soviet sword of Damocles. smile
                        Quote: Zoer
                        What's the problem with decoys? Do you carry full-size mock-ups of decoys with you?

                        Yes, a standard technique dating back to the Cold War: the colossus of the ocean KKS (48 kt, 230x32 meters) or TN (50 kt, 227x32 m) is placed in the center of the order. They have EPR due to the forest of cranes on the upper deck - like AB. And at this time AB itself takes the place of KKS/TN 100 miles behind the order.
                        That is why during the Cold War, our reconnaissance aircraft broke through to the warrant - to visually establish and record whether there was an AB or a decoy.
                      8. 0
                        April 10 2024 14: 32
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        Nope, not perpendicular.
                        The angle of inclination of the orbital plane to the plane of the Earth’s equator is 67,1°

                        laughing Well, 12,9° was not enough! But the essence is the same))) The slope changes, and on the next orbit the flight passes through the same area again)))
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        “Progress” with fuel reserves is not shown on the diagram.
                        Funny joke))) The fuel supply and remote control can be installed on the satellite itself.
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        In its current form - only as a warning system: "in such and such a square there is a group of ships similar to an AUG, further clarification - in -eleven orbits."
                        If the fleet had a crowd of R and RC aircraft carrying out additional reconnaissance of targets in the Union, then in conjunction with them the Liana could work normally.
                        And for round-the-clock surveillance - this is for “Legend”. 30 satellites with nuclear power plants on board.

                        Oh, well, that is. 2 spacecraft replace as many as 30. Does this mean anything to you? Or do you think that Liana is no longer designed to solve problems? laughing
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        That is why during the Cold War, our reconnaissance aircraft broke through to the warrant - to visually establish and record whether there was an AB or a decoy.

                        As I understand it, nothing has changed in matters of space reconnaissance since then. And 2 active spacecraft, instead of 30, are now being laid down out of idiocy)))
                      9. 0
                        April 10 2024 13: 42
                        Quote: Zoer
                        And at the same time, the entire system that should control the entire world ocean consists of only 2 spacecraft? Am I missing something?

                        From one active one - "Cosmos 2550". The remaining 4 satellites of the Liana system are passive RTR satellites.
                        You know how the Yankees are good at radio silence and imitation. So Navy reconnaissance is left with only one satellite, scanning the ocean in a narrow band in a spiral.
              2. +1
                April 9 2024 14: 12
                Quote: Zoer
                EMNIP, there should be only two active satellites, and there is reason to believe that for a limited theater of operations one will be enough.

                If it hung stationary, then yes. But Cosmos-2550 revolves around the Earth, each time looking at a new area.
                • Perigee – 465.6 km
                • Apogee – 477.4 km
                • Orbital period around the Earth - 93.9 min
                • The angle of inclination of the orbital plane to the plane of the Earth’s equator is 67,1°

                You can look at its trajectory in real time here:
                https://www.n2yo.com/?s=48865&live=1
                1. +1
                  April 9 2024 15: 55
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  If it hung stationary, then yes. But Cosmos-2550 revolves around the Earth, each time looking at a new area.
                  • Perigee – 465.6 km
                  • Apogee – 477.4 km
                  • Orbital period around the Earth - 93.9 min
                  • The angle of inclination of the orbital plane to the plane of the Earth’s equator is 67,1°

                  You can look at its trajectory in real time here:
                  https://www.n2yo.com/?s=48865&live=1

                  Are you sure that the satellite cannot maneuver and change orbital parameters? request
                  1. 0
                    April 10 2024 09: 28
                    As you imagine, it can’t. The fuel supply on board is intended for periodic orbit correction within small limits associated with the influence of the upper layers of the atmosphere.
            2. +1
              April 9 2024 17: 04
              And in the passive component, one of the spacecraft has been flying since 2009.

              All five passive Lotuses fly.
    2. +1
      April 9 2024 11: 45
      And what prevents NATO from observing the erosion of Russian military potential?

      Washing out is compensated by forced reproduction. Moreover, fresh weapons are being reproduced, and not taken from storage a couple of decades ago, which we actually use now in the Northern Military District.
    3. +1
      April 11 2024 14: 45
      “And what prevents NATO from observing the erosion of Russian military potential, and when a favorable moment comes, striking with its own forces?”
      This is exactly what they are doing, and since our leadership shows a concrete commitment to continue to play by their rules, they are doing it very successfully.
      Now it has become a reality that Ukroreich alone is not enough for this and the search immediately began for someone to send to their aid, and in order not to substitute NATO, some kind of coalition like a new Entente will be put together in which the role of primary cannon fodder is assigned to the Baltic states, Poland and further along list.
  25. +3
    April 9 2024 09: 50
    The author seriously believes that it is easier to sharpen tons of blanks and make millions of blasters than to grow thousands of tons of cotton and process it into gunpowder? Interesting thoughts though.
    While the Russian Federation continues to finish off 404, with great desire in the EU and the USA, everything will be completely adjusted and put into mass production. But after this, the flywheel of war will no longer be stopped. Perhaps, understanding exactly this, the EU is in no hurry to invest trillions in the war? And yes, the EU should not be perceived in isolation from the USA, because... In fact, Europeans have not decided anything themselves for a long time. They will say to fight from overseas, they will fight. They won't say, they won't. Remembering how the United States came out of crises through world wars, helping from outside with resources, then a repetition should not be ruled out at all. The only thing that is stopping them so far is our tactical nuclear weapons, which can force them to join this hell.
    1. 0
      1 May 2024 21: 59
      Then the Americans are more likely to be stopped by strategic nuclear weapons
  26. 0
    April 9 2024 10: 17
    Well, taking into account the fact that our gunpowder is now made from wood and flax cellulose, cotton is still a problem. But it was decided.

    And it’s not just us who have wood and flax....
    1. +1
      April 9 2024 10: 32
      Quote from: Neverhood
      Well, taking into account the fact that our gunpowder is now made from wood and flax cellulose, cotton is still a problem. But it was decided.

      So far only in the media blah blah blah... I have not yet heard about XXXXX tons of shipped gunpowder synthesized from wood.
  27. +1
    April 9 2024 10: 20
    They say, but not exactly, that gunpowder can be made from wood, flax, hemp, and even hogweed.
    1. +2
      April 9 2024 10: 34
      Quote: Pavel57
      They say, but not exactly, that gunpowder can be made from wood, flax, hemp, and even hogweed.

      They don’t say, but even pilot production has already produced some volumes. But whether it will go into mass production is a big question. So, you can get gold from sea water))) But, as they say, the game is not worth the candle.
  28. +1
    April 9 2024 10: 21
    I usually recognize this graphomaniac by the title and don’t read it. Here my instincts let me down, damn it. I read it. At the end - Roman again. Well, I'm really sick of it! Some authors write about the navy, some about aviation, some about weapons, etc. (forget about geopolitics - but here we are all “experts”). In this case, it is clear that the person is special: either he served/worked for a long time, or he studied the topic with at least a 4+. Roma talks about everything and a lot. From what I conclude, they pay line by line. Now I’ve gotten to gunpowder... Nadys was informed that our science proposed wood as a basis for gunpowder. Roman, but Western chemical concerns won’t be able to do this? They won’t find any wood, and here you are talking about cotton, an expert “in your mother’s jacket.”
  29. 0
    April 9 2024 10: 53
    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
    The West will not help Ukraine. It is obvious.

    I could go on for so long, but I think this is enough for readers to draw certain conclusions.

    Manuscripts do not burn.
    The Internet remembers everything.
    laughing
  30. +1
    April 9 2024 11: 31
    There is only one result. The situation cannot be resolved without drastic decisions. And today none of the warring parties is ready for these decisions.
  31. +3
    April 9 2024 11: 33
    Regarding the issue of using cellulose from cotton, I can explain the following:
    This solution is primarily economic - minimum cleaning and, accordingly, costs for it. There are also problems - the thickness of the cellulose fiber is low, this, on the one hand, increases the nitration rate, and on the other hand makes the gunpowder very fast. Such gunpowder is only suitable for small arms; high-quality artillery gunpowder is slow and is better obtained from fibers of greater thickness (wood, hemp, flax). In the production of gunpowder from this raw material, the main problem is the purification of cellulose and the nitration rate reduced in relation to cotton. At one time in the USSR they worked on producing gunpowder from metacellulose, when the fibers are formed in a spinneret and have an ideal cross-section in shape and size. Using this technology, you can make any gunpowder from any hay, you just need a lot of water. In general, the topic of gunpowder production has not been covered.
  32. -1
    April 9 2024 11: 49
    Why were Finland and Sweden accepted into NATO? That's right - they have a lot of forests, and therefore raw materials for gunpowder.
  33. +1
    April 9 2024 12: 02
    Overall, the article is good, I liked it. But there are no fools in NATO. In the event of a direct threat to Europe, everything will be quickly found and adjusted. It’s just that Ukraine is not a country for which they are ready to harness 200%.
  34. +1
    April 9 2024 12: 04
    Quote: your1970
    But the shortage of gunpowder is not the whole problem; there is also the issue of a mountain of resources. Which are not within walking distance, there is money, but there are simply no resources.

    Now they are pushing this narrative about the Chinese monopoly in the production of cotton raw materials, but there is also this text: “Papperger said that Rheinmetall has accumulated a three-year supply of lint after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, and deliveries continue “every month from China.”
  35. +2
    April 9 2024 12: 05
    Recently there was a series of articles about the fact that Europe is about to be attacked. Now there are articles saying that Europe cannot fight - there is nothing with which to fight. So who to believe?
  36. +1
    April 9 2024 12: 50
    Maybe it will help someone. I hope ours.
    Some gunpowders can be replaced with nitric acid and kerosene. The service life of the barrels, of course, decreases, but it will work for disposable and non-reusable barrels. Personnel can also be poisoned, so unmanned guns are advisable.
    Explosives should be saved by using volumetric explosion ammunition. It is easier for us to establish the production of oxyethylene than TNT.
    .
    In both cases, the mechanics of guns, bombs and shells become more complicated. And the efficiency without electronics will be low. Again we come up against the need for industry, metalworking and electronics.
    But Nabiulina doesn’t give away the money. The rollback-intensive vertical does not allow money to reach the workers. And unbridled exports leave industry without resources.
  37. +1
    April 9 2024 13: 04
    The Wall Street Journal reported that Russia has doubled its imports of nitrocellulose to make gunpowder. WSJ names supplier companies not only from China, but also from the USA, Germany and Turkey
    1. +2
      April 9 2024 13: 41
      Quote: Calm_type
      WSJ names supplier companies not only from China, but also from the USA, Germany and Turkey

      Capital fears no profit or too little profit, just as nature fears emptiness. But once there is sufficient profit available, capital becomes bold. Provide 10 percent, and capital agrees to any use, at 20 percent it becomes animated, at 50 percent it is positively ready to break its head, at 100 percent it violates all human laws, at 300 percent there is no crime that it would not risk, at least on pain of the gallows. Smuggling and the slave trade convincingly prove the above.
      © Thomas Joseph Dunning
      1. +1
        April 9 2024 14: 21
        This is about parallel imports, not about greed
        1. 0
          April 10 2024 14: 12
          Quote: Calm_type
          This is about parallel imports, not about greed

          Parallel import is from the buyer's side. And on the part of the manufacturer/seller from the USA or the EU, this is exactly Dunning’s greed. When it doesn’t matter who receives an extremely narrow-profile sanctioned product, the main thing is to make a profit.
          And this is good, comrades, and this is correct. smile
          1. 0
            April 11 2024 08: 43
            The seller may not really know who will actually receive the goods (gasket companies, etc.). This should be monitored by the relevant authorities.
            1. 0
              April 11 2024 10: 38
              Quote: Calm_type
              The seller may not really know who will actually receive the goods (gasket companies, etc.).

              Yes, yes, yes... the seller doesn't know.
              - Vector LLC contacted us with a request to purchase nitrocellulose for Kyrgyzstan...
              - Of course, sell it - this is a reputable company with an authorized capital of five hundred bucks and two months of experience. But Kyrgyzstan simply needs a twenty-year supply of gunpowder.

              I still remember how Toshiba and Kongsberg themselves organized a gray scheme - just to sell machine tools to the USSR. An American puppet company in the Far East colluded with the state arms corporation of a NATO country to help the Soviet nuclear industry and shipbuilding. laughing
              1. 0
                April 11 2024 10: 55
                Italian company. Manufacturing varnishes and paints. Chinese culture. Etc. For example. Toshiba was punished. Konsberg too. Fines, imprisonments, etc.
  38. 0
    April 9 2024 13: 40
    "Europe is not coping with the war! They really needed a blitzkrieg"
    It turns out that prolonging the conflict is a cunning plan on our part?
  39. +1
    April 9 2024 14: 30
    Quote: Maluck
    It is forbidden!!! Using this figure, one can indirectly assess the dynamics of manpower losses. And this is a secret!!!

    No. Israel in Gaza lost, conditionally, 100 tanks, the Palestinians - 0. Israel's losses in manpower are 100 times higher than those of Hamas?
  40. 0
    April 9 2024 14: 37
    Quote: A vile skeptic
    I would also like to ask Skomorokhov, does he consider himself an expert or “experts”? And then me too
    unscrewed it two and a half years ago, looked at what experts and “experts” in the world were saying about a possible confrontation between Russia and Ukraine

    Here, for example, is Skomorokhov’s article “In what ways are the Armed Forces of Ukraine superior to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?” from 06.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX. And in it:
    In order to enter into a war with Russia and hold out there for more than a week, the Armed Forces of Ukraine must be reformed and equipped as if it were the army of a decent country. We need a strategy, we need tactics, we need modern weapons and people trained to work with these weapons.
    If you comply with all this, and even add a normal military budget to this, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine will really be able to become an armed force capable of something more than mastering handouts from the West.
    It is a pity that I will not live to see this significant and important event.

    In order to have at least something to oppose the Russian army, the under-army of the Ukrainian Armed Forces must have somewhat greater means than anti-tank systems and UAVs.

    So the incoming motorized rifle and tank troops will not meet such full-fledged resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    Just the operation against Ukraine will be large-scale and very fast.

    Of course, if Russian tanks were perlied in columns, without any cover, then the Ukrainian soldiers would have shown themselves. But we're not so into science fiction hit, right?

    The conflict in Donbass almost immediately began to resemble the First World War, its initial phase. No aviation.
    Excuse me, but who said that the Russian army would fight on the principles of a century ago?

    But, for example, Skomorokhov’s article “Farewell, old Ukraine!” from 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX. And in it:
    But we will talk about what will happen tomorrow, because “today” is actually over for Ukraine

    It is very pleasant to realize that the plan for Ukrainian air defense that we made just recently was fully justified. And all that remains for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to rely on is the “Stingers”

    Now the air over Ukraine is at the complete disposal of the Russian Aerospace Forces, and we can seriously propose to stop even the appearance of resistance

    And now, when all our analytical calculations, which said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not capable of anything, are being confirmed, it is worth doing forecasts for the future.

    The West will not help Ukraine. It is obvious.

    I could go on for so long, but I think this is enough for readers to draw certain conclusions.

    So what about what happened two years ago? Only fools and dead people do not change their minds.
  41. +2
    April 9 2024 16: 09
    a little about gunpowder, Vedomosti, June 21, 2017
  42. +1
    April 9 2024 16: 34
    Maybe just fight like a human being and not follow the stupid laws of the First World War?
  43. +1
    April 9 2024 17: 09
    I didn't even bother reading the article. But with a chest full of air and a straight posture, I confidently declare. There is no optimism here, we have to be realistic. World War 3 has been going on for a long time. The 21st century is a century of local conflicts and terror. Global war is impossible by definition. Watch less TV, read more good books. We live in the postmodern era. Realize this and accept it as a fact, it is not for nothing that in Moscow there is a monument popularly referred to as k#k#shke, whether you like it or not, it can answer many questions.
  44. 0
    April 9 2024 19: 33
    The other day it was announced that ours made gunpowder from wood.
    By the way, ours fought against this famine from 1941 to 1944, although the reason was different, the chemicals were imported. It is necessary to revive an analogue of Katyusha; it did not use gunpowder.
    1. 0
      April 11 2024 08: 38
      What did Katyusha rockets fly on?
  45. BAI
    +1
    April 9 2024 20: 31
    FPV drones can replace projectiles. They don't need gunpowder.
    In general, both NATO and the USSR-RF were constantly preparing for war with each other. Full scale. And no gunpowder?
  46. 0
    April 9 2024 22: 31
    I’ll also insert my 5 cents.
    First of all, I want to thank Roman for the wonderful article - thank you! hi
    I came in by chance, started reading, and it was impossible to tear myself away.
    Many thanks to my comrades who commented on the article - I haven’t had such pleasure reading for a long time hi
    So, one day I happened to find out that we have a scientist who developed several varieties of cotton that could ripen in the Astrakhan region, and these varieties had different fiber colors. But no one was inspired by the idea. It was correctly noted here how many gunpowder production enterprises were destroyed in our country, and here is the task of zoning cotton. I had a chance to read about flax and hemp - about how the production of these crops was abandoned.
    Yes, I read it and didn’t know then that gunpowder is made from all this.
    Thanks again everyone!
  47. 0
    April 9 2024 22: 34
    How can one not remember the attempt to grow cellulose from hogweed, not cotton? laughing
  48. 0
    April 9 2024 23: 20
    It is not necessary to use cotton to produce nitrocellulose. Technology has long stepped forward. Now at least you can make something out of Christmas trees.

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6633988
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  50. 0
    April 10 2024 16: 51
    I may surprise you, but gunpowder can be made without cotton. It is possible that its characteristics are worse, but it is cheaper and it is a full-fledged gunpowder. And recalculating the charge for the new characteristics of gunpowder is a matter of days or weeks.
    Yes, and there are actually plenty of such gunpowders, it’s just that a peacetime army needed “clean and environmentally friendly” gunpowder, but for a full-fledged war, mass production and cheapness are needed, albeit with worse characteristics.
  51. 0
    April 10 2024 20: 20
    winked It would be nice for the author of the video to watch Valery Isaev’s videos about the production of gunpowder during the Second World War. Cotton, coal. Yes, now it’s probably possible from other materials. INOSMI published an article where it turned out that Russia is purchasing explosives from the United States through “gray streams.”
    This raises another question. This is the capacity of the chemical industry.
    Regarding the consumption of shells. The works have already been published a long time ago. 20 thousand shells per month at SVO are not 122, 152 mm shells, but also include 30 mm ammunition for BMP-2, 100 mm, etc.
    If 20 thousand 152 mm shells were fired at Artemovsk, then there would be nothing left of the city. Although I watched the videos. When there was a description of the “terrible terrible fire of Russian artillery,” I timed the fountains of explosions and determined that only 2-4 guns were firing.
  52. 0
    April 11 2024 00: 50
    I wouldn't say nuclear war is funny,
  53. 0
    April 11 2024 21: 14
    Don't calm down. No one in the West will ever refuse war with Russia! Read military sites of Western countries via VPN. They are building factories, building military bases! They are promoting their military-industrial complex! In two years maximum, they will start firing shells... Those same shells that will fly where and at whom? What do you think? They will fly at our soldiers! Now the West is busy simply maintaining the conflict, stalling for time. They are exhausting Russia economically and destroying its human resources. Understand, they are investing a lot of money in the construction of military factories! No one should have any illusions about this! There is no need to lull the vigilance of the Russian people! It is necessary to prepare for the worst. After Ukraine, the second act of the Marlezon ballet will be the Baltic States with Poland. The third act will be NATO without the US. They will leave NATO. Yes, we will defeat everyone, we will punish everyone... This goes without saying, but the question is, when and at what cost? This is the most important question! The Russian authorities must and must be prepared for this scenario. She must not let her people go to waste! This is exactly what you need to think about, how to win with small losses. Because the phrase “women give birth to new ones” does not apply. Demographic crisis!
  54. 0
    April 14 2024 15: 33
    In fact, even before the SVO, ours switched to making gunpowder from flax. And such gunpowder turned out to be cheaper and better in technical characteristics
  55. 0
    April 14 2024 21: 41
    In order to squeeze out all the juice even from an industrialized state, a major war is not necessary. A fairly small, but extremely long and smoldering military conflict, fueled by interested politicians and moneybags, methodically pursuing a purposeful destructive policy. Is the example of the USSR during the Afghan war not enough?
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    April 16 2024 09: 39
    Quote: Frank Muller
    In order to squeeze out all the juice even from an industrialized state, a major war is not necessary. A fairly small, but extremely long and smoldering military conflict, fueled by interested politicians and moneybags, methodically pursuing a purposeful destructive policy. Is the example of the USSR during the Afghan war not enough?

    The United States, while fighting in Vietnam, mastered the Lunar program.
    Afghanistan was tenth to twentieth in influence for the USSR.
    In 1965-1975, the USSR calmly delayed both participation in the Arab-Israeli conflict and participation in the war on the side of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam in Indochina. But then there was still the inertia of the Stalinist economy.
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      April 17 2024 23: 45
      As for “calmly pulling,” this is unlikely to correspond to reality. All these military conflicts had a great impact on many components of the Soviet economy (primarily, on the standard of living of the population), which was not customary to talk about out loud. The success of Transatlantic countries in overcoming difficulties is very simple to explain by answering the question: what currency is the most popular in the world today (to which, in fact, all other monetary units are tied) and who prints it?
  57. 0
    April 17 2024 00: 48
    Isn't there too much honor for Prigozhin? Wasn’t it he who conceived the unrest right before the counterattack, exposing the front and exposing the country to attack. Was it not his people who shot at their own and killed their own under his strict leadership?