About rare examples of armored vehicles at the front

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About rare examples of armored vehicles at the front

Earlier we said that the special military operation in Ukraine became a kind of debut of handicraftsmen, thanks to whom a large number of field and “semi-factory” modifications of military equipment appeared on the fronts. Now let’s add that the Northern Military District zone is also a place where you can find extremely rare examples of combat vehicles; the presence of some of them in our active troops was previously unthinkable.

No, we are not talking about the latest and most promising weapons, which are tested in harsh combat conditions to confirm their reliability and effectiveness. Rather, on the contrary - about those products of the military industry, whose fate could be limited to rotting in settling tanks at training grounds, at storage bases or in training camps.



And this does not apply to some “oldies” like the T-54, which are being actively removed from storage - there are also younger things. We will present five of the most notable of them.

"169 Object"


"Object 169" in the Severodonetsk direction
"Object 169" in the Severodonetsk direction

"169 Object"
"169 Object"

Literally four months after the start of the special operation - in June 2022 - the Object 169 tank was spotted in the Severodonetsk direction. This vehicle, despite the fact that it does not have its own classic index of the “T-such and such” type, is a kind of transitional model from the T-62 to its more functional version T-62M.

Compared to the usual “sixty-two”, this tank there were several differences. Their list included “Tucha” smoke grenade launchers located in the frontal part of the turret, anti-cumulative rubber-fabric screens on the sides of the hull, as well as a heat-insulating casing on the gun barrel. In addition, the 169th had a laser rangefinder above the gun, but no automated fire control system.

Produced in just a few units at the end of the 70s, this tank was a kind of intermediate option for testing new design solutions, and data on the presence of such vehicles in the army until recently was not published. All that was known was that one of the “Objects 169” was located at the Kazan Tank School, and some of the produced vehicles subsequently received a fire control complex from the T-62M.

However, many years later, at least one copy, during the mass reactivation of the T-62, ended up in service and ended up in Ukraine, which we can see today.

T-80UM-2


T-80UM-2 at an exhibition in Omsk in 1999
T-80UM-2 at an exhibition in Omsk in 1999

Burnt T-80UM-2 in Sumy region
Burnt T-80UM-2 in Sumy region

Another rare representative of the tank fraternity, which was noted in the special operation even earlier than “Object 169”, is a modification of the T-80U tank under the symbol T-80UM-2. However, the word “rare” is not quite suitable for it - rather a single one, since it was released in one copy.

It was developed by specialists from the Omsk Transmash in the 90s of the last century and in such aspects as armor, sights and power plant does not differ from the original version of the vehicle. Its, so to speak, “exclusivity” lies in the presence of the Soviet active defense complex “Drozd”, designed to destroy attacking cumulative ammunition while still approaching the tank.

At one time, the T-80UM-2 was actively offered for export and as a promising option for modernizing the “eighties” for the Russian Army. However, a period of severe lack of money and a lack of interest on the part of the Ministry of Defense took their toll - the tank did not go into production.

The only sample of the T-80UM-2 wandered around various exhibitions and private displays for quite a long time, until it eventually entered the staff of the Kantemirovsky division. Of course, without a working Drozd - by that time all that was left of it were empty launchers and an electronics unit full of non-working tripe.

Unfortunately, his final stop was the Sumy region, where he received fatal injuries back in March 2022 during the offensive of our troops.

BTR-90


BTR-90 presumably in the Avdeevsky direction
BTR-90, presumably in the Avdeevsky direction

The long-suffering BTR-90 “Rostok”, which was probably spotted somewhere in the Avdeevsky direction in October and December last year, was also included in the list of Red Book vehicles. Unlike the little-known tank, there is not much to say about it - after all, the product was very popular at one time and was even formally adopted by the Russian army.

Created at the turn of the 80s and 90s of the last century, this armored personnel carrier differed favorably from serial models due to reinforced armor, a modified layout and a wide variety of installed weapons, ranging from autocannons to the Bakhcha module with a 100-mm gun and 30-mm gun. mm automatic.

According to the plans, this wheeled combat vehicle was supposed to become a high-quality replacement for the BTR-80 in the Russian Armed Forces. However, the lack of funding and a change in priorities to completely new equipment (including the Boomerang), which never entered mass production, finally put an end to the project.

A total of 12 BTR-90 units were manufactured, of which one went to the Patriot Park, and the rest, remaining after testing, ended up in Arzamas and Nizhny Novgorod. Now, one of the places of deployment of the small and almost forgotten armored personnel carrier has become the North Military District zone.

BMP-1U


Modified by the Russian military BMP-1U in the Northern Military District zone
Modified by the Russian military BMP-1U in the Northern Military District zone

Also among the means of delivering infantry to the battlefield and its fire support, we can highlight the BMP-1U, which, unlike the armored vehicles listed here, is not included in the list of achievements of the domestic defense industry. It was produced in Ukraine back in the 2000s as a modernized version of the Soviet BMP-1.

The main feature of the vehicle is the Shkval combat module, installed instead of the original Kopeyka turret with a 73-mm smoothbore gun. It is based on a 30-mm automatic cannon (a copy of the Soviet 2A72 or 2A42, depending on the model), 7,62-mm and 12,7-mm machine guns, as well as an AGS-17 automatic grenade launcher and the Konkurs-M anti-tank missile system.

All this is seasoned with a good sighting system, including an optical anti-aircraft sight for firing at air targets PZU-7M, a laser range finder, the main optical-television sight of the gunner OTP-20 and a sight-observation device for the commander TKN-3B on an electron-optical converter.

Russian troops received these BMP-1U in quantities of more than 10 units a long time ago - during the war of August 2008 as trophies from the Georgian armed forces. And over the past 14 years, they have become familiar only in test footage filmed at experimental testing grounds. However, at the moment, Ukrainian vehicles are already actively used in special operations.

Highly protected vehicle "Ladoga"


Highly protected vehicle "Ladoga"
Highly protected vehicle "Ladoga"


But, perhaps, the highly protected vehicle “Ladoga”, which was recently captured in the frame of a Ukrainian FPV-drone, presumably in the Liman direction.

Yes, the same Soviet mobile command and staff post, designed for the transportation and implementation of activities of high-ranking military and political officials in conditions of radioactive and biological contamination of the area. Or, as it is also called, the government caterpillar “limousine” of the nuclear apocalypse.

The base is the chassis of a T-80 tank with a gas turbine engine of 1 horsepower with the ability to self-clean from radioactive dust. On top is a comfortable cabin for four high-status passengers with a good life support system, communication means (rumored to be even direct with the Strategic Missile Forces), a complex for remote monitoring of the environment and anti-nuclear protection, including a filter-ventilation unit, oxygen supply from cylinders and neutron lining.

Of course, in the “Ladoga” that appeared at the front, it is unlikely that at least part of the original equipment remained. But, speaking in general, this machine, developed in the early 80s of the last century, is, without any exaggeration, unique. It was released in such minuscule quantities that it can be counted on the fingers of one hand, and until recently there was no information at all about whether at least one sample of the Ladoga remained on the move.

Now, of course, there is. True, the Ladoga was not used for its intended purpose, but, most likely, as an armored personnel carrier or ambulance - after all, the armor was quite good, as was its mobility.

Conclusions


Of course, the list presented here is far from complete.

And it can be continued not only with rare copies, but also simply with low-volume products in the form of IMR-3M engineering vehicles based on the T-90, Vena self-propelled artillery mounts, and so on. However, it itself shows an interesting trend due to two facts.

Firstly, even before the SVO, the military did not disdain the use of equipment that was not only combat, but also completely historical value. And the same T-80UM-2, which served as a linear tank in Kantemirovka, is a clear example of this. Here, whatever one may say, a tank is a tank, and if it can perform the tasks assigned to it, then its origin, non-standard equipment and other things are not a hindrance.

Secondly, a special military operation in Ukraine is very expensive in terms of armored vehicles. You need not just a lot, but a lot of it in order to make up for losses in a timely manner and create a numerical advantage on the battlefield. In this regard, the rear personnel supplying the army show remarkable abilities, providing the army with an uninterrupted supply of all possible “armor” capable of driving and shooting.
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  1. +9
    April 8 2024 04: 56
    At the beginning of the SVO I saw a photo of a ZIL-157 with a kung car..... This means its cross-country potential was in demand. hi
    1. +8
      April 8 2024 05: 12
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      At the beginning of the SVO I saw a photo of a ZIL-157 with a kung car..... So its cross-country potential was in demand

      Well, or the “wonderful” provision of troops with modern vehicles. Although it could have been a Donetsk stupa.
      1. +11
        April 8 2024 05: 15
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        "miraculous" provision of troops with modern vehicles

        Yeah! Like "Loaf"....Still in demand. Well, the “Cleaver” is beyond competition in terms of cross-country ability and reliability, the only negative is that it consumes a lot of gasoline.
        1. +3
          April 9 2024 03: 15
          The "Kolun" is unrivaled in terms of cross-country ability and reliability, the only negative is that it consumes a lot of gasoline. The 131st eats even more, I’m not even talking about the Ural 375!
    2. 0
      April 9 2024 14: 50
      At the beginning of the SVO I saw a photo of a ZIL-157 with a kung car..... This means its cross-country potential was in demand.

      They were produced in small series until...1991!
      1. +1
        April 10 2024 00: 34
        I worked in a mobile communications group (MGC), we had 157, 63, 66, 69, then 4 came, and then everything was covered with a copper basin...
  2. +5
    April 8 2024 05: 28
    Also among the means of delivering infantry to the battlefield and its fire support, we can highlight the BMP-1U, which, unlike the armored vehicles listed here, is not included in the list of achievements of the domestic defense industry. It was produced in Ukraine back in the 2000s as a modernized version of the Soviet BMP-1.

    The main feature of the vehicle is the Shkval combat module, installed instead of the original Kopeyka turret with a 73-mm smoothbore gun. It is based on a 30-mm automatic cannon (a copy of the Soviet 2A72 or 2A42, depending on the model)...


    In general, re-equipping the BMP-1 with automatic 30 mm cannons is very justified. The point is not only the higher combat effectiveness of 30 mm guns. Unlike 73-mm cumulative and fragmentation ammunition unified with SPG-9, 30-mm shells do not detonate when a combat vehicle is hit by a cumulative or when it explodes on a mine.
  3. +22
    April 8 2024 05: 30
    The article is not bad, but the author kept silent about the reasons for the appearance of this entire museum zoo at the front - the meager production of new armored vehicles due to the deindustrialization of the country and the huge losses of equipment due to the enchantingly incompetent conduct of the North Military District, both in the political and military sense.
    First, we give the enemy a lot of equipment of the 1st Tank Army. And then we will reactivate the T-54....
    And yes, as soon as they don’t get rid of them now, they put DShK on Motolygi and actively use D-1 from the time of Comrade Stalin. The enemy, by the way, also has their own production destroyed, and they also use museum Soviet rarities, but unlike us, at least fifty states supply them. Moreover, the situation with armored vehicles is especially difficult; if shells, missiles and UAVs can be bought from Iran and the DPRK, then with armored vehicles everything is more complicated. China doesn’t sell to us, Iran doesn’t have a surplus, North Korea still has a lot of junk, but we support sanctions against them. And if ammunition can be bought on the spot (go tell the DPRK shells from the Soviet ones), then with tanks it’s not so easy.
    For now we are saving ourselves by reactivating the T-80 and BMP-1, and in small ways we are using everything that shoots and whatever shells we have.
    1. +5
      April 8 2024 07: 44
      Quote: Belisarius
      For now we are saving ourselves by reactivating the T-80 and BMP-1, and in small ways we are using everything that shoots and whatever shells we have.

      And this is quite logical, because why bother storing it all? True, the bad thing is that Western technology is fighting against this junk. Not everything is the best there either, but mostly it will be more modern.
      1. +3
        April 8 2024 14: 34
        Quote: Good evil
        And this is quite logical, because why bother storing it all? True, the bad thing is that Western technology is fighting against this junk.

        It’s logical, especially since there’s nothing else. The only question is that Soviet reserves are not endless, what will we do when they run out?
        As for the enemy, most of their tanks are still Soviet. And there are quite a few T-64s left and T-72s they use from all over the world. In terms of infantry fighting vehicles/armored personnel carriers, they have complete “globalism”. What's missing.
        But it cannot be said that the enemy has any advantage in terms of armored vehicles. Not yet.
        For now, our main problems still relate to drones, reconnaissance, communications and control.
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    3. -1
      April 8 2024 13: 41
      Not a bad comment, but I have some questions. A lot of equipment given away - how much? A couple of dozen copies, so for such a VO it’s just a drop, or were there really hundreds of equipment there?
      1. +13
        April 8 2024 14: 53
        Quote: Arigin
        A couple of dozen copies, so for such a VO it’s just a drop, or were there really hundreds of equipment there?

        There were no hundreds abandoned near Kharkov. It was about a hundred. But these are only cast and this is only one episode.
        Remember the epic attack on Kyiv with a lot of equipment and a meager number of people, and without technical support. Then a stop, negotiations with the terrible Kyiv Nazis on the 4th day of the operation, burned columns, and a gesture of goodwill with a rapid retreat behind the ribbon.
        As a result of this wise strategy, Kantemirovskaya alone lost about 80 tanks (mostly abandoned).
        And epic attacks with one armored vehicle without reconnaissance along narrow passages in minefields head-on against anti-tank systems and drones.....And not 2 years ago. You probably saw the video of the attack of the 90th battalion near Tonenkiy......
        So, taking into account the meager production of new ones (not to be confused with the taking of high-tech equipment from warehouses), there will not be enough equipment.
        1. +3
          April 9 2024 09: 34
          Thanks to the author - good article, to the point! I still can’t wrap my head around the miscalculations of our VPR (Military-Political Leadership) and the miscalculations of the command and the General Staff of the Russian Defense Ministry - near Kiev, near Kharkov, near Kherson, losses in equipment and the complete failure of the Black Sea Fleet, and the military-industrial complex was also not ready for replenishment such large losses. Thank God that at least they were able to quickly launch the production of the line of Lancets and Geraniums - without them it would have been completely bad...
  4. 0
    April 8 2024 07: 42
    All this does not happen because of a good life, and it’s good that there are handy people for such equipment! When creating a machine you cannot take everything into account, especially in a war in the distant future.
  5. +4
    April 8 2024 07: 48
    Judging by the first photo, it’s a little wild to see a tank in 2022 without banal dynamic protection
    1. +4
      April 8 2024 09: 02
      turembo (Mike), in war, EVERYTHING that can cause damage to the enemy must be fought. If you are not aware, the purpose of dynamic defense is to counteract cumulative ammunition. Every “old” tank has at least a 100mm gun and a crew, covered with armor that adequately protects from shrapnel. And in order to avoid burning them, you just need to use them properly, for example, as mobile firing points (without “dashing cavalry attacks”) and reliably cover them from possible retaliatory strikes.
    2. -3
      April 8 2024 10: 07
      Exactly in March 2022, it was not at all surprising to see even the burned Russian Guard paddy wagons in columns. A completely different operation was planned, for which a similar technique was quite suitable.
  6. 0
    April 8 2024 08: 19
    I’m not a tanker at all, although I’m a bit of a self-propelled gunner - but it feels like it’s “object 169” standing on the square in our city. If this is so, then it is not at all rare, where are we and where are the tank military units...
    1. 0
      April 8 2024 08: 55
      Quote: your1970
      in our city on the square it is “object 169” that stands

      Can I take a photo or at least the name of the locality... Please
      1. 0
        April 8 2024 09: 01
        Can I take a photo or at least the name of the locality... Pliz -

        I repeat, I’m not a tanker, I just don’t know. Maybe not 169. Intrigue...
        1. +1
          April 8 2024 09: 05
          Quote: your1970
          Maybe not 169.

          Well, yes, ob.172M, that is, T-72
          Quote: your1970
          Intrigue...

          Yeah, the fenders and fender liners are kind of strange, it looks like they’re homemade
          1. 0
            April 8 2024 10: 02
            They are definitely factory, and so are the black rubber screens on the tracks.
            Well that is our They didn’t make anything homemade; they brought it in this form.
            Maybe a repair plant or someone else.
  7. +1
    April 8 2024 10: 01
    Quote: Belisarius
    The article is not bad, but the author kept silent about the reasons for the appearance of this entire museum zoo at the front - the meager production of new armored vehicles due to the deindustrialization of the country and the huge losses of equipment due to the enchantingly incompetent conduct of the North Military District, both in the political and military sense.
    First, we give the enemy a lot of equipment of the 1st Tank Army. And then we will reactivate the T-54....
    And yes, as soon as they don’t get rid of them now, they put DShK on Motolygi and actively use D-1 from the time of Comrade Stalin. The enemy, by the way, also has their own production destroyed, and they also use museum Soviet rarities, but unlike us, at least fifty states supply them. Moreover, the situation with armored vehicles is especially difficult; if shells, missiles and UAVs can be bought from Iran and the DPRK, then with armored vehicles everything is more complicated. China doesn’t sell to us, Iran doesn’t have a surplus, North Korea still has a lot of junk, but we support sanctions against them. And if ammunition can be bought on the spot (go tell the DPRK shells from the Soviet ones), then with tanks it’s not so easy.
    For now we are saving ourselves by reactivating the T-80 and BMP-1, and in small ways we are using everything that shoots and whatever shells we have.


    Current production, or rather the renewal of warehouse resources, barely covers losses. On the one hand, praise is given to the foresight of previous generations, thanks to which it was possible to preserve a huge amount of equipment. On the other hand, the reserves accumulated for the war with NATO are being depleted. At the same time, the enemy lost some of its supplies: there were no losses of about a dozen Leopards and several Abrams vehicles from the Iraqi era. Equipment from China could help a lot, but I'm afraid it won't happen.
  8. +1
    April 8 2024 10: 03
    Great review, thanks! It was very interesting to look at the “zoo”. And, as always, no “water”, everything is to the point.
  9. -1
    April 8 2024 12: 11
    Interestingly, Ladoga remained alive after the drone strike
    1. -4
      April 8 2024 12: 34
      The drone is most likely a reconnaissance drone, if the drone had ammunition they would say that Ladoga was attacked and not photographed
      1. +2
        April 8 2024 12: 50
        FPV drone. They take video before the strike, since guidance occurs in real time via a video channel.
        1. -2
          April 8 2024 13: 23
          and reconnaissance drones also take seeds from a great height
          1. 0
            April 8 2024 13: 25
            Look at the photo more closely. And an explanation for it before writing nonsense.
            1. -4
              April 8 2024 13: 31
              It says fpvdrone and the fact that Ladoga was in the frame and not the words that it attacked, fpvdrones could also be reconnaissance, or maybe it attacked a nearby tank, it doesn’t say that Ladoga was attacked, but judging by the quality of the picture the picture was taken from a great height and cropped to Ladoga size
              1. -1
                April 12 2024 12: 56
                From how high a height??? What photo??? This is a still image from a drone video taken at close range seconds before impact!
                1. -1
                  April 12 2024 13: 11
                  Why are you treating me here? It says here that this was not an attack.
                  https://dzen.ru/a/ZgRWTOTvzwI_Q3w9
                  1. -1
                    April 12 2024 14: 18
                    Dear, are you all right in your head??? According to the link you provided, in the explanation of the photo, in black and white, in Russian, it is written, quote: “Frames are published on social networks that depict an attempt to ATTACK a heavy special purpose vehicle “Ladoga” by a Ukrainian drone, which is in service with the RF Armed Forces. The end of the FPV drone's approach is unknown, but judging by the trajectory of its movement, the maximum that threatened the Russian equipment was damage to the stern." End of quote. Ukrainian drone attacks!
                  2. -1
                    April 12 2024 14: 21
                    I am ending my communication with you. You are an extremely incomprehensible and, in my opinion, not a completely adequate individual.
  10. +1
    April 8 2024 23: 26
    From the entire body of information, it is not very clear what the most sensitive losses are. If in tanks, then the T-54/55/62 is most likely a self-propelled gun. If in an infantry fighting vehicle, then an infantry fighting vehicle / armored personnel carrier with 30mm in any available configuration has the right to exist.
  11. 0
    April 21 2024 14: 08
    Quote: Belisarius
    The article is not bad, but the author kept silent about the reasons for the appearance of this entire museum zoo at the front - the meager production of new armored vehicles due to the deindustrialization of the country and the huge losses of equipment due to the enchantingly incompetent conduct of the North Military District, both in the political and military sense.
    First, we give the enemy a lot of equipment of the 1st Tank Army. And then we will reactivate the T-54....
    And yes, as soon as they don’t get rid of them now, they put DShK on Motolygi and actively use D-1 from the time of Comrade Stalin. The enemy, by the way, also has their own production destroyed, and they also use museum Soviet rarities, but unlike us, at least fifty states supply them. Moreover, the situation with armored vehicles is especially difficult; if shells, missiles and UAVs can be bought from Iran and the DPRK, then with armored vehicles everything is more complicated. China doesn’t sell to us, Iran doesn’t have a surplus, North Korea still has a lot of junk, but we support sanctions against them. And if ammunition can be bought on the spot (go tell the DPRK shells from the Soviet ones), then with tanks it’s not so easy.
    For now we are saving ourselves by reactivating the T-80 and BMP-1, and in small ways we are using everything that shoots and whatever shells we have.


    However, despite the statements and crying, the factories exist and they work. They produce both new and restore old ones.
    There are said to be around 72 T7,000s in storage and about 80 T3,000s. All this can be restored.
    I don’t think that tank losses are more than 1,000 per year. And it is not always total destruction.
    Well, tanks from China or Iran... why do we need them? For the sake of deunification and problems with repairs and supplies? Moreover, Chinese tanks are mainly T55 and then hellish mixtures of T72 and all sorts of Asian orno.

    Well, ukry have T64 - outgoing nature and euro T72, of which I think at least 700-1,000 have already been supplied.

    I think Lipards1 will come next, but this requires unpacking the warehouses of Greece and Italy, where about 1,500 pieces are gathering dust.

    After this, in principle, only the Lipards2 and Abrams, and the Korean ones, will remain. But then clearly someone from NATO should get involved