Mannlicher vs Mauser

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Mannlicher vs Mauser
It all started with her! 8-mm eight-shot Lebel rifle 1886 (Lebel Mle. 1886). Army Museum, Stockholm


The first in his litigation is right,
but his rival comes
and explores it.

Proverbs of Solomon, 18:17

People and weapon. We continue our story about Mannlicher rifles, since his contribution to the arms industry is so great that it deserves the closest consideration. Moreover, his designs influenced the design of rifles of other well-known systems, including ... the famous Mauser rifles. True, Mauser himself is not to blame for this, but nevertheless history With the Germans borrowing Mannlicher's developments, it is simply impossible to get around.




Mauser rifle 1871 caliber 10,95 mm also with an under-barrel magazine. Except she was shooting with black powder cartridges! Army Museum, Stockholm

And it so happened that in 1886 a truly epoch-making event happened in Europe: in France they adopted the Lebyal M1886 rifle with an under-barrel magazine for eight rounds.

In Germany - the main potential enemy of France - at that time a similar Mauser rifle was already in service, also with an Alfred von Kropachek under-barrel magazine for eight rounds of the 1884 model - a conversion of the 1871 rifle, designated Gewehr 71/84.

It was also adopted by the Turkish army, and in 1887 it was again converted (Gewehr 71/87), placing a ramrod on the side and placing a second lug at the rear of the bolt. The cartridge it used was 9,5x60R, and it was because of it that it became the last rifle in the world to use the cartridge... with black powder.

And it was precisely in the cartridge, and not in the magazine, that the problem lay!


German “commission” (or “state”) rifle - “German response to the French challenge” - Gewehr 88. Army Museum, Stockholm

The fact is that the French rifle fired cartridges with smokeless powder and had a caliber of 8 mm, and previous French rifles were 11 mm! Thanks to this, the speed of the bullet increased sharply, its flatness increased, and in accuracy it surpassed German rifles, which immediately became outdated.


The bolt of the Gewehr 88 rifle, model 1891, produced in Danzing for Turkey. On it, pack loading was replaced with clip-on loading. Author's photo


The reversible safety lever is clearly visible at the rear of the bolt. And on the jaws of the bolt frame there were recesses for the clip. Author's photo

It is clear that the Germans did not want to come to terms with this state of affairs and urgently created a weapons commission (GewehrPrufungsKomission), which was tasked with creating a rifle that was supposed to surpass the French model.

For some unknown reasons, the German military did not want to contact Mauser’s company and place an order for a new rifle for him. At first they thought they would simply reduce the caliber of the old rifle and replace the gunpowder in the cartridges from black to smokeless. But... they decided that it would be more correct to create the rifle anew, and chambered for the new Patrone 88 cartridge with an 8-mm blunt-pointed bullet (diameter 8,08 mm) *, which differed from other cartridges of that time in the absence of a rim.

Having dealt with the cartridge, the commission took up the magazine and... opted for the magazine of the Austrian Mannlicher M1886 rifle. And the barrel was taken from a Lebel rifle, borrowing from it both the shape and the pitch of the rifling**.

But the bolt for it was developed by the German designer Louis Schlegelmilch from the state arsenal in Spandau. That is, the leading German rifle manufacturer of that time, Mauser, had nothing to do with the development of this new rifle.


Rifles for Turkey were converted to be loaded using a clip. But the old “pack” cartridge feeder lever was left unchanged. They decided not to replace it, because every little thing in a weapon costs money! Author's photo

Tests of the “commission rifle” - it was called so because it was created by a “commission” - were completed in November 1888, and were immediately put into service, designated Gewehr 88.


There was nothing left to fall out of the magazine, and the hole in it was closed with a lid. Author's photo

The rifle used a modified Mauser action design from the 71-84 rifle. The bolt head (unlike all later Mauser rifles) was removable.

The commission paid close attention to Mannlicher's earlier designs and also received a stack-loading magazine. The use of Mannlicher's burst loading system was a clear violation of patent law. Therefore, it is not surprising that the Austrians immediately followed up with a lawsuit from the Steyr company regarding violation of Mannlicher’s patents.

But the dissatisfaction of the Austrians was quickly quelled, since they were given the right to produce Gewehr 88 rifles based on orders coming from both Germany and other countries. In addition, Steyr received the right to equip its own rifles with bolts designed by Schlegelmilch.

So, in the end, all the contradictions were resolved to mutual agreement and... benefit!

At the same time, its production was started by such companies as Haenel, Schuler, Loewe and Schilling, as well as the Belgian company August Schriever in Lüttich.


In this photo you can clearly see the barrel casing and the “half-ramrod”. Each rifle had a “half cleaning rod”, but to get a full length cleaning rod, you had to screw two cleaning rods together. Author's photo

Overall, the rifle turned out to be a success!

The trigger mechanism ensured high shooting accuracy. The rifle barrel had a Miega design casing, and the traditional wooden barrel pads were absent. This eliminated the influence of shrinkage of wooden parts from changes in temperature and humidity on the accuracy of fire, and also protected the shooter’s hands from burns when shooting at a high rate. However, such a casing increased the risk of corrosion, because water could get into the space between it and the barrel.

The Karabiner 88 carbine, adopted in 1890 for cavalry service, unlike the rifle, had a shortened barrel, a ramrod and a boss on the barrel for attaching a bayonet were absent. The others were the belt fastenings and the bolt handle, which was bent down for convenience.

The model 1891 carbine Gew.91 also received a hook at the end of the barrel for placing the carbine in the sawhorse.


The author with the M88 rifle. It fits very comfortably in your hands. In general, it’s surprising why our military didn’t adopt it? It was enough to change the caliber, remove the barrel casing, make the barrel itself thicker, replace burst loading with clip loading, as the Turks did, and... here you have a wonderful rifle for all times. Moreover, it was then possible to buy the entire production process from the Steyr company. This approach, by the way, was fully consistent with the then approach of the Russian military to arming the army. But... for some reason everything turned out differently... Photo by the author

As a result, when in 1898 the Germans finally received an improved model of the rifle from Mauser, they had no choice but to sell the commission rifles... to sell!

Because of this, a huge number of 1888 rifles were released onto the world arms market. There were hundreds of thousands of them and they were all sold out one way or another and distributed all over the world.

It is interesting that since they used Mannlicher batch loading, they were immediately identified locally with “Mannlichers” and “popularly” began to be called “Haenel-Mannlicher”, “Schilling-Mannlicher”, etc. That is, by the company - to the manufacturer and author of the store!


The Karabiner 88 carbine, adopted for service in 1890. Photography by Allen Dobress


Feeder lever on the M1888 carbine. Photography by Allen Dobress


Carbine "Steyr-Manlicher" M1895. At the end of the barrel there was a hook like this for placing it on the sawhorse. Photography by Allen Dobress

The rifle was loaded with the bolt open using a pack designed for five rounds, which was pressed into the magazine well. At the same time, the feed lever in the magazine is compressed and then raised between the walls of the clip, putting pressure on the lower cartridge.

The clip could be removed by pressing the pin in the front of the trigger guard. The forward movement of the bolt allows it to remove the top cartridge from the edges of the pack. When the last cartridge is chambered, the clip falls out of the hole in the bottom of the rifle's magazine.

The main disadvantage of this loading is that if the stack clamps are deformed or rusty, then difficulties may arise with feeding cartridges; and the magazine itself cannot be loaded with cartridges one at a time. Another drawback is less noticeable, but it exists and is very important, although it relates to the sphere of economics.

The fact is that the mass of the pack was 17,5 g, while the plate clip was only 6,5 g. This meant that for every hundred cartridges when loading in batches there was an excess mass of 220 g. For 1 pieces - that’s already two with half a kilogram of metal that had to be smelted, processed, brought into proper form and distributed into positions.

That is why, in the end, batch loading of rifles was abandoned in favor of clip-on loading.


Mannlicher pack for 6,5 mm Italian cartridges

The Italian rifle M 91 (Italienisches Repetier-Gewehr M. 91) was also developed by Mannlicher. True, only the magazine system in this weapon was designed by Mannlicher, but nevertheless this is not so little. This rifle, commonly known as the Mannlicher-Carcano, was used throughout both World Wars as the standard sidearm of the Italian Army.

However, the bolt was a modified Mauser design developed by General Paraviccini (in any case, he headed the commission responsible for its development!) and gunsmith Salvatore Carcano at the Turin Small Arms Factory in Italy. Perhaps it would have been more correct to call it “Paraviccini-Carcano-Manlicher”, but the name turned out to be too long.

The Mannlicher-type clip held six 6,5 mm (.256) Italian caliber weltless cartridges.

Due to the different caliber and shape of the cartridge, the pack of this rifle is different in design from the pack of the Austrian rifle. The cartridges in it lie almost parallel to each other, and the back is straight, not curved.

Interestingly, Italy was the first in Europe to adopt cartridges of this caliber. And then it spread to Japan, Sweden, Norway, Holland, Portugal, Romania and Greece.

Its benefits were obvious - the wounds caused by a 6,5-mm bullet were practically indistinguishable from larger bullets, but the production of such ammunition required less non-ferrous metals, and the soldier could take more such cartridges with him. The Italian magazine was also more capacious - six rounds, versus five rounds for the Germans and Russians.

True, then the Italians adopted a larger caliber cartridge: 7,35x51 M.38. But this happened already in 1938. The Mannlicher-Carcano M91/38 carbine was released for it. But the bulk of the Italian army was still armed with rifles with a 6,5 mm cartridge.


The bolt of the Mannlicher-Carcano M91/38 carbine. Author's photo


The bolt and feed lever of the Mannlicher-Carcano carbine M91/38. Author's photo


The author with the Mannlicher-Carcano M91/38 carbine. The impression from the carbine is... quite strange. The stock and butt are somehow “plump”. The most important thing is that for some reason the neck of the butt is made too “plump”, so it is not very comfortable to clasp it with your hand, although perhaps this is a subjective feeling. But, probably, it was very convenient to fight with such a carbine as a club...


Italian rifle "Mannlicher-Carcano" M1891. Army Museum, Stockholm

Well, now it should be noted that even in those cases when Mannlicher himself did not participate in the creation of this or that type of weapon, his ideas and... his name worked. And this says a lot.


The same rifle, but only with a bayonet. Photo of Dr. Filippo Cianfanelli from Florence

* In 1905 it was replaced by the 7,92x57mm Mauser cartridge with a pointed S-type bullet with a diameter of 8,20 mm and a more powerful powder charge.

** It is interesting that in Russia, when Mosin was given the task for a new rifle, the original sample was also taken from a Lebel rifle caliber 8 mm. Therefore, the first Nagant rifles sent to Russia for testing had the same caliber. And although it was later changed to 7,62 mm, its geometry remained the same, Lebel’s.
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  1. 0
    April 6 2024 06: 03
    Vyacheslav hi Good afternoon! I haven’t read your articles for a long time due to being more busy with work, but your materials are still interesting to me and your articles “later”, but I also read them with pleasure! hi THANK YOU! hi
    1. +2
      April 6 2024 06: 12
      Good morning and good day to you too. I'm glad that you enjoy reading my materials. Today there are two of them - another one according to ancient manuscripts.
      1. +1
        April 6 2024 06: 13
        Vyacheslav, I’m already at work, not now, but as soon as possible I’ll read your second article! hi
    2. +5
      April 6 2024 08: 28
      “Well, he started his Mannlicherism again,” said Schweik.
  2. +7
    April 6 2024 06: 50
    True, then the Italians adopted a larger caliber cartridge: 7,35x51 M.38. But this happened already in 1938.

    At the same time, the Japanese also changed the 6,5 caliber, adopting the 7,7mm Type99 rifle.
    Thank you Vyacheslav for the article, good and fruitful weekend comrades!!
  3. +1
    April 6 2024 07: 06
    it became the last rifle in the world to use a cartridge... with black powder
    Indeed, the transition to the use of cartridges with smokeless powder can, without exaggeration, be called a revolution in the further development of small arms. Thanks to the author for another informative article.
  4. 0
    April 6 2024 07: 12
    Vyacheslav, thank you, as always hi
    . This rifle, commonly known as the Mannlicher-Carcano,

    Hello Kennedy
    1. +7
      April 6 2024 07: 34
      Quote: novel xnumx
      Hello Kennedy

      Mannlicher к Korkano has no relation, except perhaps a similar store. I was reading a book Assassination of J. Kennedy there this rifle is described in detail, down to every screw...
      1. +3
        April 6 2024 09: 24
        Quote: Luminman
        maybe a similar store.

        !!!!
        1. +2
          April 6 2024 09: 53
          6,5 mm caliber bullets from the Fucile di Fanteria Mod rifle. 91/38, also known in the West under the not entirely correct name “Mannlicher-Carcano”

          And what's the fun?
          1. +2
            April 6 2024 09: 55
            Quote: novel xnumx
            And what's the fun?

            The fact is that from Mannlicher there is only a store there. This and that... principle.
            1. +6
              April 6 2024 09: 57
              In Steve Hunter's book "The Third Bullet" it seems to be proven that, in principle, it was impossible to hit Kennedy with this rifle
              1. +4
                April 6 2024 09: 59
                Quote: novel xnumx
                In Steve Hunter's book "The Third Bullet" it seems to be proven that, in principle, it was impossible to hit Kennedy with this rifle

                I read about it. That there were 5 shots and Oswald could not fire them accurately.
                1. +3
                  April 6 2024 10: 54
                  No, it seems like it hit, the bullet that pierced Kennedy’s neck, the governor’s thigh, and shone in the bottom of the car, where it was found. And the bullet, hitting the head, exploded, which is already strange
                2. +1
                  April 6 2024 14: 59
                  Thank you, Vyacheslav! good
                  I always look forward to your articles. Everything else is boring, as is the squatting with brains with or without reason. soldier
                  1. +1
                    April 6 2024 17: 14
                    Thank you, Konstantin, for your kind words. Kindness seems to be pleasant to a cat, and especially to a person!
              2. +3
                April 6 2024 13: 46
                Hi Roman!
                In the eighties, the American film "Flash" was in our box office. There it was unequivocally proven that it was not Oswald who killed, but government agencies stood behind the shooter. I am far from judging real events from a feature film, even if it was shot very well and with good actors. You just remembered the book, and I remembered the movie.))
                1. +2
                  April 6 2024 15: 30
                  But read it, there are interesting calculations on ballistics
                  1. 0
                    April 7 2024 00: 19
                    Thank!))
                    I'll definitely take a look.
  5. +8
    April 6 2024 08: 00
    The bolt of the Gewehr 88 rifle, model 1891, produced in Danzing for Turkey. On it, pack loading was replaced with clip-on loading.

    And in this rifle the chamber was redesigned for the 8x57IS cartridge with a pointed bullet, as indicated by the “s” mark on the receiver.
  6. +7
    April 6 2024 08: 09
    The rifle barrel had a Miega design casing

    Miga. German diphthong ie transcribed as и. Therefore Armand von Mieg. He was a weapons designer and died from weapons. In 1917, a comrade accidentally shot him while hunting.
    1. +4
      April 6 2024 09: 22
      Thank you! Where I heard about Mig, it was Mieg!
  7. +3
    April 6 2024 09: 29
    Perhaps it would have been more correct to call it “Paraviccini-Carcano-Manlicher”, but the name then turned out to be too long.

    But in fact, what did the Italians call their “musket”?
    Or why did the name of the French rifle “chambered by Lebel” become known as “Lebel rifle”?
    Craving for shortening long titles?
    1. +4
      April 6 2024 09: 38
      Quote: hohol95
      Craving for shortening long titles?

      God works in mysterious ways!
      1. +3
        April 6 2024 09: 40
        Their paths are certainly inscrutable!
        But “popular names” often greatly exaggerate the role of some and underestimate the role of others!
        Therefore, it would be possible to write the official names under which these “self-propelled guns” were put into service.
        And not their "folk names".
        1. +1
          April 6 2024 09: 48
          Quote: hohol95
          Therefore, it would be possible to write the official names under which these “self-propelled guns” were put into service.

          This is what they did in Russia with the 1891 rifle. But our Soviet historians didn’t like it...
          1. +4
            April 6 2024 10: 50
            Foreign historians didn’t like it either.
            All Europeans know that the Russians fought with rifles for three wars
            "Mosin - Nagant M1891"!
            1. +3
              April 6 2024 11: 08
              Quote: hohol95
              Foreign historians didn’t like it either.

              Well, at least they honored their Nagan...
              1. +3
                April 6 2024 13: 09
                And Mosin S.I. was indicated.
                Luckily.
                Or they might not have indicated...
                But the “First Berdan” was also called the faceless “small rifle of the 1868 model” - without mentioning either Berdan or Gorlov and Gunius.
                And only in the title of the “Second Berdan” was the author’s surname indicated - “Berdan Rapid-Fire Small-Caliber Rifle No. 2.”
                But they did not mention those who made changes to the design of H. Berdan
                - Colonel V.L. Chebyshev and Colonel I.I. Safonov.
                And if the “magazine” of an Italian rifle was similar to Mannlicher’s “product,” this does not mean that it was a “Manlicher magazine.”
                The Italians did not buy a license for his “shop” from the Austrian.
                1. +2
                  April 6 2024 14: 58
                  This reflects a purely subjective approach to the name. And a lot of fears... You don’t have to stand on ceremony with your own people, but you should be wary of foreigners! Therefore it is better to call them...
                  1. +3
                    April 6 2024 15: 43
                    H. Berdan personally arrived in St. Petersburg with a new rifle and, how can we not mention him.
                    So you are wondering why the Russians didn’t buy a factory producing the “Commission Rifle” from the Teutons (the Chinese did).
                    And I’m wondering why they didn’t create their own “small-caliber” repeating rifle based on Berdan No. 2?
                    1. +2
                      April 6 2024 16: 50
                      Quote: hohol95
                      Why didn’t they create their own “small-caliber” repeating rifle based on Berdan No. 2?

                      As far as I understand, they created it.
                      Not taken into service request
                      P.S. In America, nonsense No. 2 is called “Russian” hi
                      1. 0
                        April 6 2024 17: 02
                        Quote: Senior Sailor
                        As far as I understand, they created it.

                        I haven't seen anything about this anywhere. And the “Russian rifle” in the USA is Berdan No. 1.
                      2. +2
                        April 6 2024 17: 15
                        Quote: kalibr
                        I haven't seen anything about this anywhere.

                        Hmm ...
                        Kvashnevsky, Mosin...
                        https://www.kalashnikov.ru/berdanka/
                      3. +2
                        April 6 2024 17: 32
                        Quote: Senior Sailor
                        Kvashnevsky, Mosin...

                        Thank you very much for the tip. I read it with great interest. I remembered that I read about Kvashnevsky’s store, but a very long time ago and without such details. But only Art Museum employees can afford to write this. They have everything at their fingertips. And it costs me 4 thousand one piece to get such photos!
                    2. +1
                      April 6 2024 17: 01
                      Quote: hohol95
                      And I’m wondering why they didn’t create their own “small-caliber” repeating rifle based on Berdan No. 2?

                      And me! But there will be more about this, I promise...
                    3. +2
                      April 6 2024 17: 56
                      ... why didn’t they create their own “small-caliber” repeating rifle based on Berdan No. 2?

                      It’s very good that they didn’t.
                      Bad locking scheme (see Fedorov).
                      It was somehow suitable for black powder, but no more.
                      1. +1
                        April 6 2024 18: 00
                        Clear. In technical terms, the locking scheme turned out to be weak for smokeless powders!
            2. +1
              April 6 2024 18: 44
              As far as I understand, the Mosin-Nagant rifle has a Mosin bolt and a Nagant magazine.
              So the store is the worst node in it. Overcomplicated feeder, unreliable latch...
    2. +2
      April 6 2024 14: 32
      But in fact, what did the Italians call their “musket”?

      Since the rifle as a single weapon was created by Salvatore M. Carcano, the Italians called it Carcano Mod. 91.
      As for the idea
      call it “Paraviccini-Carcano-Mannlicher”
      , then if you list all the participants, you get "Mannlicher-Càrcano-Parravicino-Galelli-Muricchio." The last two were the developers of progressive barrel rifling, which was one of the design features of the rifle.
      1. +2
        April 6 2024 15: 39
        Carcano!
        Neither Mannlicher nor... etc.
  8. +4
    April 6 2024 09: 37
    Its benefits were obvious - the wounds caused by a 6,5-mm bullet were practically indistinguishable from larger bullets, but the production of such ammunition required less non-ferrous metals, and the soldier could take more such cartridges with him. The Italian magazine was also more capacious - six rounds, versus five rounds for the Germans and Russians.

    "...
    Secondly, the very early rifles designed by Salvatore Carcano had a very interesting sector sight, designed for a distance from 420 to 2000 meters, since the military theories of that time allowed for the possibility of long-distance salvo shooting at group targets. But the practice of the First World War quite convincingly showed the fallacy of these views. Moreover, even the slot on the block for a distance of 300 meters turned out to be not the best solution - this led to a significant increase in the height of the bullet at closer distances and probably saved the lives of many Austrian soldiers whose heads the Italians were aiming at. As a result, the modified rifles were equipped with a fixed and non-adjustable sight, designed for a single distance - 200 meters. 
    The main “filling” for the cartridge was solenite with a low percentage of nitroglycerin. This greatly reduced barrel erosion and increased the service life of the rifle. In addition, the Italian cartridge had a lower operating pressure than its counterparts in other countries. In combination with high-quality barrel steel (partially purchased in the Czech Republic at the foundry in Kladno) and deep rifling, this allowed Italian rifles to maintain high combat characteristics for a long time, including accuracy. The large relative length, combined with the caliber, gave the bullet good stability in flight.
    However, the 6,5x52 mm Carcano was not entirely ideal either. While other countries already at the beginning of the XNUMXth century modified their cartridges, switching to a more aerodynamically optimal pointed shape, the Italians remained faithful to the blunt tip until the very end of production."
    https://kalashnikov.club/a/istoriya-kalibra-pulya-dlya-prezidenta-6-5-52-mm-carcano
  9. +7
    April 6 2024 16: 53
    In general, it’s surprising why our military didn’t adopt it?

    Mosin is great not as a designer, but as a technologist. A rifle of his design could be produced by less qualified personnel, on less precise machines, from cheaper materials, and all this together cost much less money request
    1. +1
      April 6 2024 17: 04
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      but as a technologist.

      Exactly! Moreover, this is a feature of our weapons... Not the best rifle, not the best tank, not the best machine gun... according to certain indicators. But in terms of reliability and manufacturability, they are the first in the world.
      1. 0
        April 6 2024 18: 08
        So our production workers couldn’t create “A la Mustang”, like a “Lego set”. From parts produced in different countries!
        This did not happen even during the Warsaw Pact. They did not assemble a tank from Soviet steel armor, Czechoslovakian guns and shells and Polish, Hungarian and Bulgarian electrical equipment and surveillance devices!
        The Egyptians could afford to install a West German infrared sight from Telefunken on the Soviet T-55!
        So they got out of it in the USSR as best they could.
        But the one who designed is always the ENEMY of the one who serves...
    2. +2
      April 6 2024 17: 10
      Where would they get high-precision machines (at that time) and highly qualified workers?
      Arms factories already worked on a “shift basis”.
      In peacetime, a minimum of workers and saving the resources of the machine park.
      As soon as there is a “global nimble”, there is immediately a rush to hire those who can be put behind the machine...
      1. +1
        April 7 2024 06: 57
        Where would they get high-precision machines (at that time) and highly qualified workers?

        Machines for the production of Mosinki were still ordered abroad.
  10. +3
    April 6 2024 17: 52
    Dear author, dear friends, the article is really interesting and in connection with the discussion I relived the time of my youth. As a junior officer - the regiment's gunsmith, I had both Mauser and Menlicher rifles in reserve. Interestingly, during the time of Czechoslovakia these rifles were in warehouses intended for mobilization, during the Protectorate they remained in the warehouses of the Government Army and a year later they were forgotten in the army warehouses and were not registered here (there were not so many of them). them) they lasted until 1968. The commission arrived and all we had to do was hand over the weapons for destruction and melting down... Well, I had one advantage, I could shoot from these rifles. I don’t want to write which one was better or worse, but everything corresponds exactly to how the author described it to us. Therefore, I liked to remember my youth as an officer and my position as a gunsmith. Thank you all am
    1. +2
      April 6 2024 18: 22
      Quote: Altmann
      I don’t want to write which one was better or worse, but everything corresponds exactly to how the author described it to us. Therefore, I liked to remember my youth as an officer and my position as a gunsmith. Thank you all

      Thank you, Ladislav!
  11. 0
    April 7 2024 02: 15
    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    True, then the Italians adopted a larger caliber cartridge: 7,35x51 M.38. But this happened already in 1938.

    At the same time, the Japanese also changed the 6,5 caliber, adopting the 7,7mm Type99 rifle.
    Thank you Vyacheslav for the article, good and fruitful weekend comrades!!

    Why did they do this? Have any effective means of protection appeared?
    1. +1
      April 7 2024 07: 19
      Why did they do this? Have any effective means of protection appeared?

      From what I heard: armored vehicles, wedges and light tanks appeared. So that every infantryman could hit them, they began to come up with rifle cartridges with armor-piercing and armor-piercing incendiary bullets. Tracer bullets also appeared, which made shooting very easy and were needed in large quantities. And in calibers smaller than 7,5 mm, such special bullets were difficult to produce. I don't know if this is true or not.
      At first (in 1932), the Japs converted only heavy machine guns to large caliber, and planned to leave rifles and light machine guns at 6,5 mm. That is, their goal was to increase the firing range. This is also evidenced by the fact that the standard cartridge for the machine operator has become a cartridge with a heavy bullet weighing 13 grams. And only in 1939, at the height of the Sino-Japanese War, perhaps for the purpose of unification, they decided to switch both rifles and light machine guns to 7,7 mm caliber. The 7,7 mm rifles even received a primitive anti-aircraft sight for shooting at aircraft.
  12. 0
    April 7 2024 07: 37
    it became the last rifle in the world to use a cartridge... with black powder.

    Wrong. The Danish Krag-Jorgenson M1889 (1889) and the English Lee-Metford Mk I and Mk II (1889 and 1892, respectively) were also black powder.