The Dnieper River Flotilla was formed

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The Dnieper River Flotilla was formed
Current situation on the Dnieper direction. Territories under the control of the Russian army are marked in red. Graphics by Lostarmour.info


As part of the naval fleet Russia has a new association - the Dnieper River Flotilla. This structure will not be large in size or specially equipped, but it will have to play a big role in the current Special Operation to demilitarize Ukraine. The flotilla will have to complement other troops and forces involved in the operation and help with future combat missions.



New formations


On March 20, a regular meeting of the Board of the Ministry of Defense took place in Moscow. The event traditionally began with an opening speech by the head of the department, Sergei Shoigu. The minister spoke about the latest successes of the armed forces on the fronts of the current Special Operation and in the rear. In addition, he raised the topic of military development and improving the organizational structure of the troops.

According to S. Shoigu, in accordance with the order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, the development of the armed forces and the increase in their combat capabilities continues. For this purpose, several land formations have already been formed and a large number of new ones are expected to appear.


Destruction of Ukrainian boats with saboteurs on the river. Dnieper. Photo Lostarmour.info

Current plans also include the development of the fleet. Thus, the minister spoke for the first time about the formation of a new Dnieper river flotilla. A brigade of river boats has been created as part of this flotilla. The minister's report did not provide any details.

So far, the principles of organizing and managing the flotilla, its numbers and equipment, its bases, etc. remain unknown. However, in the near future the boats of the new association will take part in battles, and the Ministry of Defense will talk about their service and successes.

Goals and objectives


The Minister of Defense did not name the exact reasons for the formation of the new Dnieper flotilla or indicate its goals and objectives. However, the answers to these questions are clear without explanation. In general, the need for such a unification is related to the current situation at the fronts and its expected development.

Currently, a significant part of the line of contact between Russian troops and Ukrainian formations runs along the river. Dnieper. Our army controls the left bank from the eastern part of the former Kakhovka reservoir to the Dnieper estuary. The total length of the river “front” exceeds 330-340 km. The river is a difficult natural barrier to overcome and limits the actions of the Russian army and Ukrainian forces. Nevertheless, the enemy regularly tries to make forays onto our shores. It is particularly active in the Dnieper delta, in the area of ​​the islands near the city of Kherson.


Aviation attack on the enemy's position on the right bank of the Dnieper. Photo Telegram / Fighterbomber

Enemy incursions are successfully suppressed using a variety of forces and means available on this sector of the front. Boats with enemy landing forces are identified by unmanned aircraft, after which they are attacked by artillery, anti-tank systems, Drones-kamikaze, etc. The militants who managed to land on our shore remain under fire until they are completely destroyed or surrendered.

The forces and means available in the Dnieper direction of the front are sufficient to preserve and maintain the current situation. At the same time, it is possible and probably necessary to strengthen our group in these sectors of the front. This task is now being solved through the creation of the Dnieper river flotilla. It will be able to complement the troops available in the area and strengthen them quantitatively and qualitatively.

Forces and means


Accurate information about the composition and equipment of the Dnieper River Flotilla is not yet available. So far, all that is known is that it includes a brigade of river boats. Perhaps new data on the organizational structure of the association, its equipment, etc. will appear later.

Considering the specifics of the area of ​​responsibility, it can be assumed that the basis of the flotilla will be formations and units on boats. In addition, the association may have its own coastal troops with marines, artillery, etc. At the same time, one should not expect that the number of surface and coastal forces will be large. In this regard, the Dnieper flotilla will be almost several times inferior to the Caspian - until recently the smallest formation of the Russian Navy.


Boats pr. 03160 "Raptor". Photo of SZ "Pella"

Apparently, the surface forces of the new flotilla will be equipped only with boats and motor boats. The dimensions, draft and displacement of such equipment must comply with the limitations of the Dnieper and ensure freedom of action in any part of the river, incl. off the coast. For this reason, strengthening the flotilla with ships of even small classes looks unlikely, if not impossible.

The new flotilla can be equipped with high-speed boats, Project 03160 “Raptor” and/or Project 02510 BK-16. Pennants of these types are capable of solving the tasks of patrolling and protecting areas, identifying and destroying enemy forces. They can also transport personnel, land troops and support them with fire, etc. In general, with the help of BK-16 and Raptors, it will be possible to solve the main range of tasks characteristic of the area of ​​​​responsibility of the new flotilla.

To protect against landings or sabotage from the enemy, anti-sabotage boats, Project 21980 "Grachonok", can be used. They are equipped with special equipment for illuminating the surface, underwater and air conditions, and also have weapons to neutralize identified threats. "Rooks" will be able to improve the protection of our coast from possible enemy attacks.

The coastal component of the new flotilla should include some support units corresponding to the needs of the surface forces. It is also possible to form full-fledged coastal forces, equipped with infantry weapons of all main classes, armored vehicles, artillery, etc. At the same time, the flotilla is unlikely to receive its own naval aviation, like other naval formations.


Boat BK-16. Photo Concern "Kalashnikov"

Opportunities


It is not difficult to understand what results the creation of a new Dnieper river flotilla will bring. In general, we are talking about the quantitative and qualitative strengthening of our group of troops in this direction and the growth of existing potential. In addition, our army will have new capabilities that will be useful in the current situation and in its further development.

First of all, the appearance on the Dnieper of high-speed landing and/or anti-sabotage boats, as well as, possibly, other combat units, will significantly improve the capabilities of our troops to protect water areas. It will be easier to identify enemy attempts to cross the river to create a bridgehead or even to carry out sabotage.

At the same time, the operational capabilities of our troops will improve. Thus, the boats will provide landing on the opposite shore to solve certain problems. At the same time, superiority over the enemy in technology will dramatically reduce risks and increase the effectiveness of such measures.

For a long time, the possibility of conducting a full-scale landing operation with crossing the Dnieper and creating a bridgehead on the right bank has been discussed. It is obvious that landing boats and other pennants, capable of quickly transporting personnel with weapons, equipment, etc., should play a significant role in such an operation. At the same time, strengthening the surface forces of the flotilla will ensure the required scale of landing.


Speed ​​boat BK-10. Photo Concern "Kalashnikov"

The enemy does not know whether the Russian command is going to carry out such a landing operation. However, the appearance of appropriate forces and means on the Dnieper will create a potential threat in an important direction. This will force the enemy to take action and prepare to repel the landing. He will have to send more troops and equipment to the combat zone, and they will again become targets for our attacks using a variety of means and products - and regardless of the landing plans.

Continuous development


Thus, the Russian armed forces continue the forced demilitarization of Ukraine and are looking for ways to increase the effectiveness of these processes. The Dnieper River Flotilla will become a new tool that will help us achieve our goals and reduce risks. She will have to strengthen the existing group in one of the important areas.

Despite its limited size and combat strength, the new flotilla should cope with the assigned tasks. It will be able to ensure the preservation of the desired situation in the Dnieper direction or contribute to its change in the direction we need. Apparently, the new association is already preparing for combat work and solving assigned tasks, and its first successes will soon become known.
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  1. +18
    22 March 2024 04: 16
    Taking into account the masses of FPV drones and other flying things, the armament and speed of the “boat pr. 21980 “Grachonok””, like other ships, cannot be avoided at all.
    1. +23
      22 March 2024 08: 33
      Only two years have passed since Strelkov proposed creating the Dnieper flotilla to support the actions of our troops on the Dnieper! And finally, this idea came to Shoigu’s bright head!
      1. +9
        22 March 2024 08: 48
        Quote: ramzay21
        Only two years have passed since Strelkov proposed creating the Dnieper flotilla to support the actions of our troops on the Dnieper! And finally, this idea came to Shoigu’s bright head!

        And a little more than a year to give orders for BeKam.
        (In fact, I don’t think that in the navy this is the direct responsibility of the Minister, but the fact that the General Staff and the naval command are of no use is a fact.)
        1. -7
          22 March 2024 11: 47
          if there are no ships and time,
          You can take the cruiser Mikhail Kutuzov in Novorossiysk - just put it on the move
          Kutuzov's 100-mm armored belt will withstand massive hits from BECs with FAB-250 and FAB-500 warheads
          as well as anti-ship missiles Harpoon (explosive weight 235 kg)
          and smaller types Exoset (BB 165 kg) and Norwegian NSM (BB 120 kg)
          this makes it easier to equip it with stands for 14,5 mm and 57 mm A-220 machine guns
          this is for 12 anti-aircraft two-gun mounts 37 mm V-11
          and 8 twin 30mm AK-230
          there is space for installing Tor-M2KM air defense missile system modules
          1. +3
            22 March 2024 12: 30
            reservation scheme for Project 68 bis cruisers
          2. +4
            22 March 2024 13: 32
            It’s easier to make a raft out of pipes and install anti-aircraft guns.
          3. +8
            22 March 2024 14: 14
            if there are no ships and time,
            You can take the cruiser Mikhail Kutuzov in Novorossiysk - just put it on the move

            Are you in all seriousness proposing to drag a cruiser in tugs along a shallow river, where the high bank is occupied by the enemy and you’re not kidding? lol
            1. +3
              22 March 2024 14: 47
              Quote: ramzay21
              Are you in all seriousness proposing to drag a cruiser in tugs along a shallow river, where the high bank is occupied by the enemy and you’re not kidding?

              Well, if we are talking seriously about “putting it on course”...
            2. 0
              25 March 2024 11: 13
              I generally meant the use of an armored cruiser in the interests of the Black Sea Fleet
              and by the way, regarding the retrofitting of armor for any of ours: MRK, corvette, frigate
              in 2019, it was announced that the promising cruiser Leader would be armored with ceramic armor made of silicon carbide
              + electro-dynamic remote control Malachite has appeared - no one will hang explosives on ships
              set of 50 mm ceramics + shipborne DZ Malachite + 100 mm ceramics
              = weight 500 kg per 1 sq.m.
              frigate pr. 22350 will gain 1700 tons
              corvette pr. 20380 will increase by 1250 tons
              MRK pr. 22800 + 500 tons
              This is already being implemented at the Krylov State Scientific Center
              ships will calmly hold high-explosive cumulative warheads even from our Vulcan and Zircon anti-ship missiles
              1. 0
                31 March 2024 12: 15
                These boats will sink. On warships, there is practically no reserve displacement (almost the entire displacement is occupied by vehicles and weapons), these are not transports. So all this, to put it mildly, is frivolous.
      2. +1
        22 March 2024 14: 53
        He ordered the ships to be retrofitted with 12,7 mm. True, 8 pennants are already at the bottom...
        1. -3
          22 March 2024 17: 20
          Quote: Glagol1
          He ordered the ships to be retrofitted with 12,7 mm. True, 8 pennants are already at the bottom...

          Not 8, but 14 (information from Sevastopol)
      3. +2
        22 March 2024 14: 56
        Quote: ramzay21
        Only two years have passed since Strelkov proposed creating the Dnieper flotilla to support the actions of our troops on the Dnieper! And finally, this idea came to Shoigu’s bright head!

        Strelkov will have to sit on his bunk for a long time.
        It's good that they weren't killed like the others.
      4. 0
        31 March 2024 11: 56
        Yes, Strelkov predicted a lot of things that, unfortunately, came true. That’s why I went to the “sanatorium”, albeit forcibly. So as not to prophesy the ideas of “others” tongue didn't anticipate it in advance.
    2. -3
      22 March 2024 18: 16
      Damn, stupid people, they don’t have enough tanks that are burning by the dozens?
      1944 is over, the Mavik era begins.
      1. 0
        22 March 2024 18: 17
        Respect to the admins.
        They replace the word de..ly with an automatic machine.
    3. -1
      22 March 2024 20: 53
      The Dnieper was needed in the 22nd to supply the Kherson group. For this, it was necessary to rob all the emergency services for boats and hovercraft. At least they will be given additional heavy machine guns and tanks with night lights, or Shoiga’s decree concerned only the Black Sea Fleet, and nothing was said about the Dnieper flotilla.
  2. +3
    22 March 2024 05: 07
    For the Berlin operation, the Dnieper military flotilla was awarded the Order of Ushakov, 1st degree.

    We have experience!
  3. +5
    22 March 2024 05: 15
    We need the Danube. And reverse the slogan - it will be Nuremberg2.


    Aaaand.
    They only get things done briefly, but the tales at meetings turn out to be long
  4. +5
    22 March 2024 05: 26
    Well, all the raptors and little rooks took us away just now... And that’s what it is) a new flotilla
  5. Eug
    -4
    22 March 2024 06: 29
    Will the shitty Black Sea men be in charge?
    1. +13
      22 March 2024 07: 09
      Well, screwed up or not, they now, whatever one may say, have the richest combat experience out of our entire Navy. Look what we learned, and hopefully we pushed the dumbest ones aside.
      For one broken two unbeaten give.
      1. +1
        22 March 2024 07: 28
        "For one beaten, they give two unbeaten."

        ...nobody takes it.
      2. Eug
        0
        22 March 2024 10: 14
        This is if the beaten ones made the right conclusions....
      3. -1
        22 March 2024 11: 06
        Quote: old rats
        whatever one may say, our entire Navy has the richest combat experience
        There would be less of such experience wink
      4. +1
        28 March 2024 09: 26
        Yes, a lot of experience in losing ships from an enemy without a fleet
    2. +3
      22 March 2024 07: 57
      Quote: Eug
      Will the shitty Black Sea men be in charge?

      The Pacific Islanders, who haven't done anything wrong, have absolutely no combat experience!
      1. 0
        28 March 2024 09: 28
        The combat experience of the first and second Chechen, the experience of the Second World War, the Afghan experience are greatly used
        1. +1
          28 March 2024 11: 19
          They are using it!
          Quote from Deon59
          WWII experience

          Why only the Second World War, and not, for example, the Crimean War, or the War of 1812?
  6. +9
    22 March 2024 07: 33
    There is some kind of cognitive dissonance from the article, at the beginning it says: Boats with enemy landing forces are identified by unmanned aircraft, after which they are attacked by artillery, anti-tank systems, kamikaze drones, etc. , and then about our “wide possibilities”. Does the enemy have nothing of what we drown them with? Damn the writers are dreamers...
    1. +2
      22 March 2024 08: 58
      Quote: Alex 1970
      There is some kind of cognitive dissonance from the article, at the beginning it says: Boats with enemy landing forces are identified by unmanned aircraft, after which they are attacked by artillery, anti-tank systems, kamikaze drones, etc. , and then about our “wide possibilities”. Does the enemy have nothing of what we drown them with? .

      But they manage to hide their funds from us. So we will hide it. And so there is dissonance, not without it. We drown them in the process of advancing, so we ourselves will have to advance only after we have suppressed their “artillery, ATGMs, kamikaze drones, etc.” But everything is leading up to this.
      1. +13
        22 March 2024 09: 14
        But they manage to hide their funds from us. So we will hide it.

        They have the small inflatable boats most suitable for the Dnieper with powerful engines and heavy machine guns, and ours are pulling Raptor and Grachat there.
        And most importantly, they have long ago created hundreds of separate UAV companies, equipped with everything necessary, and it is they who will resist our boats, and not individual fighters with UAVs purchased with donations from patriots.
        I’m wondering how many more years must pass and our guys die before Shoigu understands that they need to at least copy the decisions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the creation of separate UAV companies and make them at least according to their model, since they themselves cannot come up with anything?
        1. +1
          22 March 2024 11: 48
          Quote: ramzay21
          ours are dragging Raptor and Grachat there.

          We can only hope that they will not pull it right away, but only after suppressing the enemy UAV mouth.
          1. -2
            22 March 2024 14: 31
            We can only hope that they will not pull it right away, but only after suppressing the enemy UAV mouth.

            I wonder how you imagine this? And who will do this? Here they cannot take the ruins of Krynok, although this has already been reported to Putin, including because they cannot suppress the activities of UAV companies.
        2. Eug
          0
          22 March 2024 16: 52
          How is it that they can’t come up with anything themselves? What about tank biathlons? So, you see, the Military Olympics will soon be held by the Moscow Region..
  7. +17
    22 March 2024 08: 27
    Taking into account the latest realities, the article looks like a complete utopia. The Raptors suffered losses even after the battles around Zmeiny. Where should they go on the completely shot-through Dnieper. I’m generally silent about the larger and slow-moving Rooks.
    And yes, it is possible to create the Danube Flotilla, to the delight of the fermented patriots. In the form of an admiral with his retinue and headquarters fellow
  8. -6
    22 March 2024 09: 03
    I propose to transfer and include the remaining ships of the Black Sea Fleet into its composition.
  9. 0
    22 March 2024 09: 26
    And even further west is the Southern Bug and the Danube.
    How will boats protect themselves from FPV drones? We must first think about their protection, and then transport them to the Dnieper.
  10. +13
    22 March 2024 09: 27
    This is some kind of nonsense. During conscript service, I often had to intersect with the Danube Flotilla. Even then (80s) this unit was considered pure suicide bombers. And this is taking into account the Danube location where there are no large hydraulic structures and the depth is more or less accessible for maneuver. With today's level of development of means of destruction, the only thing these boxes will be capable of is to quickly burn out without causing harm to the environment. For some reason, the Minister of Defense is bursting with bright but crazy ideas the more he goes on. Everyone has already forgotten about his statements to build five new cities in Siberia, well, this is from the same opera.
    1. 0
      22 March 2024 16: 06
      Quote: oleg Pesotsky
      For some reason, the Minister of Defense is bursting with bright but crazy ideas the more he goes on.

      MO money in my pocket burns my ass...
  11. +2
    22 March 2024 09: 44
    On the river buses, there was a sun canopy over the upper deck. I would like to advise you to make canopies for drones in advance, or at least mounts for them.
  12. +9
    22 March 2024 09: 53
    According to all military strategies, where it is envisaged to save the lives of soldiers, land routes of attack should be preferred to crossing a water barrier.

    Naturally, we must keep our shores in order to exclude the possibility of going to the rear.

    But the offensive must be carried out by land, from Donetsk. On water, losses can be up to 50%. Due to crowding and limited maneuverability.
  13. -3
    22 March 2024 10: 27
    Have you come up with a new way to dispose of personnel? The Ukrainian has at least five FPV for each tank. So, at least you can hide the tank.
  14. -8
    22 March 2024 11: 24
    It’s funny - the Dnieper, actually, is on Khokhlyatsky territory laughing
    1. +2
      22 March 2024 14: 17
      Did you smoke geography in the toilet at school, since you know it so poorly? The Dnieper is already a river in Smolensk, and not a trickle, if that. “Its greatest depth in Smolensk is 80 meters. The width of the living river bed is from 70 to 100 meters, the depth is up to 3 meters.” And then - more!
      1. -4
        22 March 2024 17: 39
        Funny comment - so the Dnieper is in Smolensk and we’ll start a flotilla there? - and the depth of 80 meters is a pearl laughing
        1. +1
          22 March 2024 19: 36
          and the depth is 80 meters
          You can keep submarines there too!
      2. 0
        23 March 2024 22: 11
        Dnieper in Smolensk.
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Днепр#/media/Файл:Dnepr_in_Smolensk.jpg
  15. +1
    22 March 2024 11: 47
    They can also transport personnel, land troops and support them with fire and


    This is its main purpose. The crossing of the Dnieper is inevitable.
  16. BAI
    -2
    22 March 2024 12: 13
    1.
    on the formation of a new Dnieper river flotilla. A brigade of river boats has been created as part of this flotilla. The minister's report did not provide any details.

    There is nowhere to put the money. Appoint the former commander of the Black Sea Fleet as commander.
    2. It can only operate on reservoirs.
    3. Permission to pass through the dam locks will be requested from the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    1. -1
      22 March 2024 14: 23
      Are you a specialist in the field of operational art of the sea and river fleet or a “balalaika”, as the hero of the film “Only Old Men Go to Battle,” Guard Captain Titarenko, once said?!
  17. +3
    22 March 2024 17: 07
    All these boats and Grachenki are, of course, necessary and important. But I have very great interest and very great skepticism - where will they be based? They will not stand on the banks of the Dnieper when the enemy is across the river. And the width of the river is not very wide now. It would be understandable if some large tributary of the Dnieper flowed from the left bank on our side. It would be possible to take boats to the rear along it. But there is no such thing. Therefore, all these boats will very easily be destroyed by drones or even artillery or anti-tank systems from the opposite shore. Honestly speaking, I can’t imagine how the problem of basing and dislocating the boats of this flotilla will be solved.
    1. +2
      22 March 2024 18: 03
      Quote: Gritsa
      All these boats and Grachenki are, of course, necessary and important. But I have very great interest and very great skepticism - where will they be based?

      Orsha, Mogilev. True, I don’t remember how the depths were there, but I remember there were barges heading towards Kyiv in Soviet times!
  18. +1
    22 March 2024 18: 08
    The new flotilla can be equipped with high-speed boats, Project 03160 “Raptor” and/or Project 02510 BK-16.

    Maybe then Project 1204 boats should be added?!
  19. +1
    22 March 2024 20: 48
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    And a little more than a year to give orders for BeKam.

    While the relation was being transported to Moscow in a troika by a coachman, while the clerk was whitewashing the answer and preparing copies, while the rescript was brought back. So the years add up one to one.
  20. 0
    23 March 2024 09: 16
    My deep couch opinion.
    This association is not necessary. From the word absolutely. If necessary, second the necessary equipment from other fleets. After the liberation of the former Ukrainian SSR, send everything back.
  21. +1
    23 March 2024 18: 47
    what other Raptors and Rooks?
    The enemy has hundreds of cheap drones that will destroy these raptors and rooks in a minute.

    On the Dnieper, if you need anything, it’s some cheap motorboats with a machine gun, at least some kind of electronic warfare and the ability to launch your own drones - FPV.
  22. 0
    23 March 2024 22: 25
    They will be engaged in the protection of shipping and convoying of ships in the Sea of ​​Azov and approaches to Crimea.
  23. 0
    23 March 2024 22: 40
    The landing force is needed, or rather, used for its intended purpose. Close the border with Poland, etc. Well, start an offensive from all sides.... And until the complete liberation of all of Rus'...
  24. 0
    26 March 2024 21: 05
    The ships of the Black Sea Fleet are practically defenseless against Ukrainian drones, they are being sunk one after another and the command cannot figure out what to do in this situation. And here are practically unarmed (compared to the ships of the Black Sea Fleet) boats. Under the same conditions of overwhelming superiority of drones...
    Well, I don’t know, I don’t know... There is only one hope - maybe they will at least find a normal, sane commander for this flotilla?
  25. 0
    31 March 2024 22: 41
    All that remains is to appoint the legendary monitor “Zheleznyakov” as the flagship of the above-mentioned flotilla, which in this role had already visited the Great Patriotic War and now stands on the shore as a monument not far from the plant “Forge on Rybalsky” (renamed “Leninsky Forge”), where it was lowered to water in 1935. True, for this you must first take Kyiv, otherwise nothing will come of it. smile
  26. AMG
    0
    April 3 2024 11: 33
    As always, the author’s article has nothing to say. Similar to the message from the hydrometeorological center: “You will find out the weather for tomorrow after tomorrow!”
  27. 0
    16 June 2024 20: 48
    The article is about nothing. We will discuss when the Dnieper flotilla is formed and its organizational structure, combat and numerical strength become known.