It turns out that the Americans deceived everyone?

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It turns out that the Americans deceived everyone?

Strange, surprising, unexpected - such words suggest themselves from the news that in the very near future the US Air Force will conduct an important test of a hypersonic weapons in the pacific ocean.

A U.S. Air Force B-52 bomber was photographed last week in Guam with an interesting component on its suspension: an AGM-183A air-launched missile (ARRW). It is believed that the bomber was involved in a secret final test of the weapon, which may even have already taken place.

The ARRW was one of several Mach 5+ weapon systems developed by the Pentagon, and although it appears to have been abandoned recently, the Department of Defense is still testing. And this begs the question: why?



There are two options: ARRW was indeed abandoned last year, but there are so few tests of hypersonic weapons that any tests are useful. And in order to obtain any data on the characteristics and capabilities of hypersonic weapons, the Pentagon decided to “shoot” all manufactured ARRW samples.

The second option is less pleasant. In the time since the “failure,” the developers have worked at a feverish pace to eliminate the shortcomings and re-submit the ARRW for testing. Or all this fuss was originally part of a rather cunning plan aimed at lulling China's attention.

Let us recall that in 2021, ARRW failed several flight tests in a row - the product did not start or could not turn on the rocket engines after launch and fell into the sea. But in 2022, the weapon completed three successful flight tests. This included at least one prototype flight in December of the same year, during which the launch vehicle successfully launched a glide vehicle that reached hypersonic speeds.


But after a second test launch over California on March 13, the Air Force could only claim that the aircraft was "successfully launched" from the B-52H bomber carrying it and "completed multiple missions." This is not what would be considered a perfect execution of the ARRW mission, but it is not a failure either.

Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall told House members that it "was not a success. We didn't get the data we needed." But at that time, the Pentagon still had two prototypes at its disposal with which the program could be saved.

But in general, unfortunately for the military, it seems that the result was negative and that test was the last straw. Air Force acquisition chief Andrew Hunter told the House Armed Services Committee that the Air Force was no longer interested in purchasing the ARRW, a weapon that years earlier was confidently heralded as finally closing the capability gap with the missile arsenals of China and Russia.

What can I say... It happens.

Signs that the test could be carried out again appeared on social media and in the BBC's media feed over the weekend. The US Department of Defense Information Service has published several photographs of the B-52H Stratofortress heavy strategic bomber with an ARRW combat missile.


The bomber was located at Andersen Air Force Base in the US territory of Guam in the Pacific Ocean. As one observer noted on social networks, similar photos were taken at Edwards Air Force Base in 2023 before a similar test, thereby giving everyone something to think about.

In addition to the photos, another social media user put together several notices for pilots and navigational warnings in the vicinity of Kwajalein Atoll.

Notices to Airmen, also known as NOTAMs, are intended to temporarily prevent civil aircraft from entering a described area for a specified period of time, such as for a missile test. Navigational warnings, or NAVWARNs, also apply to mariners, commercial shipping and private shipping. Collectively, the NOTAM and NAVWARN issued cover not only the missile's predicted flight path from the launch point to Kwajalein Atoll, but also the flight areas of the dedicated aircraft that will monitor the test, particularly the launch and final impact phases.


Kwajalein Atoll is a US government test site in the Marshall Islands. The atoll survived several atmospheric nuclear tests in the 1950s and is now part of the Ronald Reagan Missile Defense Test Site. Today, the atoll is used as a target for various missile tests, most notably Minuteman III missiles launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California.

The AGM-183A ARRW was one of several hypersonic missile programs that the US government initiated after Russian and Chinese hypersonic programs were unveiled in the mid-2010s. The ARRW was designed as a high-speed non-nuclear missile capable of destroying mobile targets as well. In 2018, Flight Global said the weapon reaches speeds of up to Mach 20, or nearly 25 km/h.

The ARRW program suffered from development problems and, as a result, a number of failed tests. The Air Force canceled the missile in 2023, but decided to conduct two final tests and launch the last two prototype missiles. This is the official version.

Hypersonic atmospheric flight at high Mach speeds is a relatively little-studied area, and the more data the better. While hypersonic flight was first achieved in the late 1950s, and today's ballistic missiles again enter the atmosphere at Mach 18, new hypersonic weapons fly at high Mach numbers entirely in the atmosphere. This subjects them to incredible levels of air friction and pressure that were not fully understood until recently.


After the cancellation of ARRW, the Air Force focused on developing the HACM hypersonic attack cruise missile. In 2023, Secretary of the Air Force Frank Kendall compared the two weapons and stated that HACM is "compatible with more of our aircraft and will give us more overall combat capability" than ARRW. The HACM is a smaller missile that can be carried by fighter aircraft, while the ARRW was so large that it could only be carried by bombers. The HACM is also believed to have a shorter range due to its smaller size. This also suggests that a bomber can carry more HACMs than ARRWs, allowing one aircraft to attack more targets in wartime.

The situation is more than controversial, because the practice of modern warfare has shown that not every aircraft will be able to get close to the territory controlled by modern air defense systems. And here a longer-range missile is no worse.

Although there are clear signs of an ARRW trial, no one yet knows when it will take place, or if the trial has already occurred. The Air Force typically announces tests within 72 hours of them taking place, so time, as they say, will tell. Both the NOTAM and NAVWARN have an expiration date, so the test will definitely occur within the scope of these warnings.

It makes sense to just wait for the next stage; sooner or later everything will become known whether it was a trivial study of hypersonic propulsion or something more. There are certain suspicions that abandoning the ARRW program may be a cunning move. In any case, China simply must strain its intelligence network to find out what the hypersonic missile tests in the Pacific really are.

Americans are such a nation... Capable of unpleasant surprises. You and I know.
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  1. +22
    20 March 2024 03: 20
    I still don’t understand, is this a shock or a victory?
    In general, of course, you can rejoice at the enemy’s lag, but only if you use it skillfully. That our military and civilian leadership is doing so-so.
    1. +9
      20 March 2024 06: 25
      I still don’t understand, is this a shock or a victory?

      This is Skomorokhov!
      1. +10
        20 March 2024 06: 53
        I heard that one country has already used hypersound, they say that this weapon did not change the tide of hostilities. How much does hypersound cost in terms of fpv drones?
        1. -2
          20 March 2024 07: 25
          Quote: Civil
          I heard that one country has already used hypersound, they say that this weapon did not change the tide of hostilities. How much does hypersound cost in terms of fpv drones?

          Have you tried to compare volumes, numbers?
        2. +4
          20 March 2024 11: 31
          Quote: Civil
          I heard that one country has already used hypersound, they say that this weapon did not change the tide of hostilities. How much does hypersound cost in terms of fpv drones?

          There is a fairly well-founded opinion that hypersound is needed for the use of nuclear weapons. In the case of a conventional warhead, its use becomes very controversial. And the price...
          1. -1
            20 March 2024 12: 42
            If you use nuclear weapons, then what difference does it make whether it is hypersonic or not? In response, a lot of missiles will arrive in any way.
            1. +6
              20 March 2024 13: 10
              But there is a nuance, there is nothing to shoot down this missile with!! wink wink
              1. +6
                20 March 2024 13: 19
                Ballistic missiles are already a very difficult target. It is basically impossible to repel a massive launch.

                And to use them as conventional cruise missiles, given the price, is like shooting sparrows from a cannon.

                1. -5
                  20 March 2024 14: 49
                  There is a cool secret weapon that doesn’t even allow missiles to be targeted - the interference is worse than any electronic warfare, it’s called the “Moscow Declaration 1994”
                2. +2
                  21 March 2024 05: 56
                  Actually, the Patriot complex is worth a billion in greenbacks. And its destruction has great military-political and reputational significance
              2. 0
                25 March 2024 21: 30
                Quote: Oleg Fedechkin
                But there is a nuance, there is nothing to shoot down this missile with!! wink wink

                And no one is going to shoot them down, as it is unnecessary.
                At hour X there will be no time for shooting down.
                The whole crowd shot back - and hello.
                Therefore, a neighbor with a bazooka destroying the entire block does not care about your super sniper.
            2. 0
              20 March 2024 19: 02
              Quote: Kmon
              If you use nuclear weapons, then what difference does it make whether it is hypersonic or not? In response, a lot of missiles will arrive in any way.

              There is a difference. Flight time and interception capability.
              1. +1
                20 March 2024 20: 34
                Conventional nuclear missiles are already unrealistic to intercept. The approach time is important only if you are delivering the first disarming strike, but the enemy has almost all of the nuclear weapons on submarines.
          2. -1
            25 March 2024 21: 27
            And for the use of nuclear weapons, there will be no “second time”. That is, you will have to make fun of everyone that is - that is, thousands of thousands (which, of course, is not the case) in order to make at least some sense.
            Yes, but in a minute all this mass obscenity is recorded - and after a few more minutes there is the same massive response, not even with “hypersonics”. And all the nuclear ones that fly. Because there will be no time for disassembly. And even more so, no one will chase those hypersounds.
            Well, that’s it, and all the “strategic” value of the pumped billions of polymers is for nothing.
        3. +5
          20 March 2024 11: 48
          How much does Caliber cost in terms of hand grenades? laughing
        4. 0
          20 March 2024 12: 22
          What should hypersound do? Sweep away enemy brigades? It should quickly hit important targets, but in the Northern Military District we do not hit important targets, as this can complicate the negotiation background
      2. -2
        21 March 2024 01: 26
        News about new mattress developments appears once a week. Either they came up with a super laser, or some kind of super plane, and everything with a super prefix! At the same time, hypersound is allegedly launched from an aircraft that will soon be a hundred years old... Marketing again...
    2. +1
      21 March 2024 03: 18
      I don’t understand why we are broadcasting about new designs to the whole world... What should we call it? Boasting or an incentive for the enemy to tense up, catch up and overtake?...
      It’s clear to any person - he created a new product, urgently rivet a thousand pieces, then brag about it on TV..
  2. +8
    20 March 2024 04: 20
    Understood nothing. To be or not to be? The conclusion of the article is - let China think. recourse
    1. +17
      20 March 2024 06: 27
      Quote: Andrey Moskvin
      Understood nothing. To be or not to be? The conclusion of the article is - let China think. recourse

      Oh, what’s unclear here!? winked
      To a Chinese sitting on the shore and waiting for the floating corpse of an enemy, this same enemy, with a heavy club, approaches from the direction of the forest Yes
      1. +7
        20 March 2024 08: 36
        Well said and most importantly accurate.
      2. 0
        20 March 2024 14: 56
        Quote: Clear
        Oh, what’s unclear here!?

        It is unclear whether the Nendos were tormented by hypersound or not. The article is about this actually.
  3. +6
    20 March 2024 05: 21
    The telemetry of the flight of missiles during testing needs to be copied... then it will be clear what is happening there.
    But the words of American officials are worthless...they lie like they breathe.
    1. +3
      20 March 2024 06: 47
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      But the words of American officials are worthless...they lie like they breathe.

      It is customary for Zhyntylmen to take their word for it!
    2. +8
      20 March 2024 11: 32
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      But the words of American officials are worthless...they lie like they breathe.

      Well at least ours are not like that!
  4. +2
    20 March 2024 05: 34
    No, I understand that daggers are launched from 31 seconds essentially from the stratosphere... but what about the B-52? speed is less than mach, the ceiling is a little more than 16 km. 31 - dynamic ceiling up to 30 km and speed of almost Mach 3.
    1. +13
      20 March 2024 05: 54
      An airplane is essentially the first stage of a rocket. If you make a more powerful “second” stage, you will correct the “shortcomings” of the “first” one. And the result will be. hi
      1. +2
        20 March 2024 08: 48
        and it will cost as much as an airplane. War is arithmetic; if there are an order of magnitude more targets than super-expensive and effective super-super-missiles, then they practically lose their meaning.
    2. +6
      20 March 2024 11: 55
      With a rocket on board, the 31st will not rise to 30 km and will not develop 3M. And they don’t launch rockets at supersonic speed, the balance of the device is already fragile.
      1. +1
        20 March 2024 12: 00
        Quote: stankow
        And they don’t launch rockets at supersonic speed.

        Ummm... and then why did they stir things up for a moment then? I attached it to the Rook and forward with the song lol

        So he doesn't launch it. Video highlight launches? He simply “releases” her from the pylon and only when she “fails” does the marcher on the dagger itself work.

        Well, not at 30, but the 31 has enough power - that’s why it has a plastic ceiling of about 20 (emnip), but the dynamic one is just up to 30. This is kind of temporary - i.e. He can’t stay there for long, but it’s enough to launch.
      2. +8
        20 March 2024 13: 48
        Good afternoon. Mig-31 launches the Kinzhal from an altitude of 20-22 km, at a speed of Mach 2,5 (2650 km/h). What other plane can do this?
    3. +1
      21 March 2024 11: 54
      Quote from Enceladus
      No, I understand that daggers are launched from 31 seconds essentially from the stratosphere... but what about the B-52? speed is less than mach, the ceiling is a little more than 16 km. 31 - dynamic ceiling up to 30 km and speed of almost Mach 3.

      Are there still people who think that with such a bandura on a tray, it is possible to show the characteristics of a record version of an aircraft?
      1. -1
        21 March 2024 14: 21
        The MiG-25P with four R-40 missiles at high altitudes (from 11000 meters) easily accelerated to Mach 2,8 (2980 km/h), without missiles to Mach 3,2 (3400 km/h). The drag of four R-40 missiles is an order of magnitude greater. than one "Dagger". So, if they wanted, they could launch the Kinzhal from 3000 km per hour and it would fly even further, they are simply sparing the planes, saving the life of the airframe.
        1. 0
          April 6 2024 18: 35
          The diameter of the R-40 is 300 mm, that of the Dagger is 900, so the total drag is 9 times less. The order is ten times. Well, it’s more likely that the resistance of 4 R-40s is half as much as ten times more...
          1. 0
            April 6 2024 20: 46
            You don't need to explain it to me. what is order? The wingspan and destabilizers of the R-40 missiles are about one and a half meters, the wing area of ​​four huge missiles is equal to the area of ​​the aircraft wing, in addition, the freely dangling destabilizers of non-activated missiles create drag as from four sideboards suspended under the wings, and the Kinzhal’s stabilizers are rigid. motionless and only smooth out vortex flows, in fact this is one of their purposes, moreover, their scope almost does not extend beyond the midsection of the rocket. Will you give me a lecture on Aerodynamics? Funny. There have already been attempts.
            1. +1
              April 13 2024 19: 31
              Quote from sergeyketonov
              You don't need to explain it to me. what is order?

              Judging by previous messages it is necessary.

              Quote from sergeyketonov
              The wingspan and destabilizers of the R-40 missiles are about one and a half meters

              Rudders, they are called rudders.



              Quote from sergeyketonov
              The wing area of ​​four huge rockets is equal to the area of ​​an airplane wing

              Calculations for the studio.

              Quote from sergeyketonov
              in addition, the freely dangling destabilizers of non-activated missiles create drag like from four sideboards suspended under the wings

              Maybe stop fantasizing? Okay, you can write nonsense about nuclear weapons, but none of the deaf and dumb people will bother to refute it, and they won’t get away with it right away.



              What does the correct position look like:



              Quote from sergeyketonov
              and the Kinzhal’s stabilizers are rigid, motionless and only smooth out vortex flows

              Why is there a steering gear then?



              Quote from sergeyketonov
              besides, their scope almost does not extend beyond the midsection of the rocket

              What does the scope have to do with it? Definition of midsection?

              Quote from sergeyketonov
              Will you give me a lecture on Aerodynamics? Funny. There have already been attempts.

              Obviously, unsuccessful, since the stream of consciousness does not stop.
    4. +1
      23 March 2024 14: 22
      Alexey, Greetings. I’ll try to explain: The fact is that all rocket flight parameters, speed, range depend on the payload. Our "Dagger" has a payload of 500 to 800 kg, from an open seal. in reality, most likely -500-550 kg, there could be a high-explosive fragmentation warhead and a nuclear warhead. Amer’s missile has a load of 4,5 - 9 kg of HE at best, but most likely it doesn’t have one at all, that is, it is designed for a kinetic strike, it should be noted that the Amer’s missile turned out to be specific, not for any target. Most likely only radar antenna arrays. If the load were the same as that of the "Dagger", then its starting weight would be 8100-8200 kg, in order to achieve the same characteristics.
      1. +1
        23 March 2024 14: 28
        And you do not get sick, Sergey! hi
        Well, based on the numbers, yes, I agree. That is + - that it is more or less available. And the fact that gliders are protected - yes, that’s true. Because after all, the dagger has a warhead that is quite weighty and there is no need to rely only on kinetics
        Here yesterday in the thread about the small-shaven submarine, one person wrote that they should put a factory9000 on the governor! I neighed like a horse laughing
  5. +3
    20 March 2024 05: 45
    I also re-read it twice, but I still don’t understand anything, who deceived whom, the minke whales themselves?
  6. +8
    20 March 2024 06: 24
    Work is underway, sooner or later it will work out, China is not standing still either, what else is there
  7. +5
    20 March 2024 06: 27
    A very useful and informative article, cobbled together from what was
  8. +13
    20 March 2024 06: 32
    After the Houthis declared that they had hypersound, could the Amers remain silent?
  9. +18
    20 March 2024 06: 38
    In military academies they study the work of Sun Tzu, but in our country it seems that they do not study it.

    From Sun Tzu War is the path of deception. When you can, pretend you can't; if you use it, pretend not to use it; when you are close, pretend you are far away; when you're far away, pretend you're close. The one who is greedy is seduced by profit; capture the one whose affairs are in disarray; with one who is fully prepared, be on guard; Avoid the strong; take the hot-tempered out of yourself; behave with an arrogant person in such a way that his pride increases; tire the one who is resting; those who are friendly - divide them; those who are not ready - attack, speaking from where they are not expected

    Even Merkel follows these principles; she successfully deceived you know who for 8 years.
    1. +4
      20 March 2024 08: 38
      Our Putin has been deceived by everyone for 24 years now, but with the stubbornness of a child he continues to believe everyone
      1. +11
        20 March 2024 09: 00
        Quote from Cartograph
        Our Putin has been deceived by everyone for 24 years now, but with the stubbornness of a child he continues to believe everyone

        Putin’s main staffing problem is that he appoints loyal to positions, and asks how smart. request
        1. man
          +2
          20 March 2024 09: 58
          Quote: Clear
          Quote from Cartograph
          Our Putin has been deceived by everyone for 24 years now, but with the stubbornness of a child he continues to believe everyone

          Putin’s main staffing problem is that he appoints loyal to positions, and asks how smart. request

          Let me clarify: he asks how У smart
        2. +4
          20 March 2024 10: 18
          Are you really asking?""""
        3. +3
          20 March 2024 12: 18
          Does he ask any of them? I can’t remember a single example of a person being punished for failing a technical task. For loss of trust as much as you like, but not for failures
        4. 0
          20 March 2024 19: 11
          that he appoints the faithful to positions

          Time will tell how true they are. Maybe just like the smart ones
        5. -1
          21 March 2024 11: 57
          Quote: Clear
          Quote from Cartograph
          Our Putin has been deceived by everyone for 24 years now, but with the stubbornness of a child he continues to believe everyone

          Putin’s main staffing problem is that he appoints loyal to positions, and asks how smart. request

          Asking?
      2. +6
        20 March 2024 10: 17
        “If a person deceived you, he is a fraudster: if he deceived you twice, you are a d.u.r..ak.” -
        Prosper Merimee
      3. +2
        20 March 2024 15: 11
        the stubbornness of a child continues to believe everyone

        Yes, indeed, in the cartoon about "Leopold the Cat", just the type of "guarantor", with his: Let's live together...
  10. +9
    20 March 2024 06: 39
    This has already been reported:
    WASHINGTON, March 20. /TASS/. The US Air Force successfully tested a prototype of the AGM-183 air-to-ground hypersonic missile as part of the ARRW (Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon) program to create air-launched rapid response weapons. This is stated in a statement issued by the US Air Force on Tuesday.

    As follows from the document, the launch was carried out on March 17 from a B-52 strategic bomber that took off from the American Andersen Air Force Base on the island of Guam in the Pacific Ocean. The document notes that the test collected “valuable data on the capabilities” of the missile. The US Air Force emphasized that it would not publish details of the test launch, noting that it was aimed at “expanding the range of the hypersonic weapons program.”
    The March 17 launch was the fifth test of the AGM-183 missile prototype.
  11. +3
    20 March 2024 07: 13
    ARRW was one of several Mach 5+ weapon systems

    It's like a glider...
    Therefore, before practical application, one can speak with equal success of both good and bad. Because No one except the testers knows what happened in the end.
    Our Avangard has passed all tests and is in service.
    And with them, no one knows.
    As the Darkest said, ch. the problem was critical technologies and the necessary materials.
    We don’t know whether we could do pindos or not... lol
  12. +6
    20 March 2024 08: 06
    The Americans, if they haven’t created it, will create it, no more stupid than us and the Chinese, they don’t have enough brains of their own, so steal it! There are plenty of examples in history! lol
  13. -2
    20 March 2024 08: 10
    the descendants of bandits and thugs are not capable of such things, the hypocrisy is off the charts (((
  14. +7
    20 March 2024 08: 44
    The Americans are very strong and dangerous even without hypersound. They don't even have to fight themselves. There's a whole queue of six. And we’re not very good at hypersound either. We are always open to negotiations and are happy to be deceived
  15. +4
    20 March 2024 08: 53
    And there will be a debate among commentators: is it GP or BR? Is there a ramjet there or not?....Or did the divine rocket fly?
    1. +6
      20 March 2024 10: 18
      Is there a ramjet there or not?

      ARRW (Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon) - glider.
      There is no motorized hypersound...
    2. +3
      20 March 2024 14: 02
      Good afternoon Zaur. The AGM-183A ARRW does not have an engine; it is an engineless glider (glider) weighing 67 kg. An analogue of our Avangard, only the Avangard weighs 2500-2700 kg, and it has a nuclear warhead with a capacity of 2 Mt. But in the American warhead there is either no warhead (calculated for kinetic action), or it is microscopic 10-20 pounds (4,5-9 kg). And the speeds are very different: 7,5 km per second and 2-2,5 km per second, respectively. Despite the fact that the glider is not equipped with any seeker, only an inertial system + GPS correction, it is designed to destroy long-range surveillance radars and SNR radars of the S-300/400 air defense system and ship search radars to blind the enemy, and then they will operate with conventional missile defense systems.
      1. 0
        20 March 2024 14: 18
        This is not like the Americans. It looks more like a scaled-down rocket. Why such delights if the Iskander-Dagger ballistic missile copes perfectly with such targets (and not only such) at ranges of up to 0,5 - 2t km?
        1. +4
          20 March 2024 14: 42
          Its range is almost like the “Dagger” - 1600 km and the launch weight is close - 5000 pounds (2250 kg), well, the flight profile is slightly different, after all, the "Dagger" is practically a classic ballistic with controlled flight on the final part of the trajectory, and the AGM is 183A “behaves” on its trajectory like a cruise missile, only at hypersonic flight speed.
          1. -1
            20 March 2024 14: 55
            But OF BC is OF BC.... The text of your comment is too short and, in the opinion of the site administration, does not contain useful information.
      2. -1
        21 March 2024 12: 01
        Quote from sergeyketonov
        Good afternoon Zaur. The AGM-183A ARRW does not have an engine; it is an engineless glider (glider) weighing 67 kg. An analogue of our Avangard, only the Avangard weighs 2500-2700 kg, and it has a nuclear warhead with a capacity of 2 Mt. But in the American warhead there is either no warhead (calculated for kinetic action), or it is microscopic 10-20 pounds (4,5-9 kg). And the speeds are very different: 7,5 km per second and 2-2,5 km per second, respectively. Despite the fact that the glider is not equipped with any seeker, only an inertial system + GPS correction, it is designed to destroy long-range surveillance radars and SNR radars of the S-300/400 air defense system and ship search radars to blind the enemy, and then they will operate with conventional missile defense systems.

        Where do you get this nonsense about 2 Megatons?
        In our country, from the end of the 70s, the production of over 500 kt would have been stopped due to their complete uselessness. The efficiency is much lower than that of 2 warheads of 450 kt each, and the price is three to four times more expensive, and the mass is also four times more...
        Throwing it in is many times more expensive.
        And so on.
        1. 0
          21 March 2024 16: 17
          There was such an idea in the early 1960s, very popular in the USA, and 5 years later it captivated our tadpoles. Initially, it was assumed that several less powerful warheads would be more effective than one super-powerful one. Moreover, only preliminary calculations were carried out, then 15 years later they further investigated this topic and recognized the idea as erroneous both in the USA and here. And the stupidly deployed Polaris A-3T and Poseidon C3 missiles, which with 10 W-68/Mk3 warheads worked as a MIRV with a minimum disengagement range against targets. according to various sources, from half a mile to a mile, and the second option with 14 W-68/Mk3 warheads. which worked as MRVs (all 14 warheads were simply scattered over the target. More careful calculations showed that most of the warheads would simply have died due to the “fratricide” effect. Although initially a monoblock warhead with a W-67 2 Mt nuclear warhead was assumed, but 14 were deployed warheads of 40 kt each. Ours also fell for this "canoe" and deployed several regiments of R-36 ICBMs with a dispersive type MIRV with three 2,3 Mt warheads instead of a 25 Mt monoblock and deployed an MRV on the R-27 SLBM instead of a 700 kt monoblock with three warheads of 100 kt each. In general, they did stupid things then too.
        2. 0
          22 March 2024 14: 19
          Who told you such nonsense that a monoblock is heavier and more expensive and even “Four times” - complete nonsense in the article there is information on the topic - the monoblock R-36M2 - 3900 kg, MIRV IN - only warheads - 10 pieces - 4500 kg, and the power, monoblock - 8,3 Mt, and the total for 10 warheads - 7,5 Mt. The amers - the Titan-2 - have a monoblock weighing 3600, with a power of 9 Mt, and the MX MIRV IN - 10 warheads for a total of 3 Mt. Although the rocket is 20 years younger, and even if the Americans had installed not a “clean” version of the W-2 on the Titan-53, but a “dirty” one, then in this thrown weight they would have received a power of 35 Mt. Well, about the cost - this is generally a masterpiece, a monoblock is not four times more expensive than a MIRV IN with 10 warheads, but on the contrary cheaper, and not 4 times, but 40 times!!!! once.
  16. 0
    20 March 2024 12: 28
    Americans are such a nation... Capable of unpleasant surprises. You and I know.

    Yes, they will make them if they haven't already. They can launch a global strike if they do not see the threat of a retaliatory strike. US intelligence works very well! We've been writing about it here for over a year now! The Russian Federation is also capable of unpleasant surprises. space ship with a nuclear engine and with nuclear missiles, well, as an example, I’m just writing))))
  17. +4
    20 March 2024 13: 10
    It would be naive to expect that the United States will not put the finishing touches on “hypersonics” if two other nations did it before them. This is just a technical task - they have enough tools to approach it. Supercomputers, materials, specialists, money.
    1. +3
      20 March 2024 14: 19
      For them, this is not so critical... Not everyone has missile defense, not everyone has strong air defense... and the number of missile launchers and their carriers in the United States is very large, as are their carriers. It's just a matter of prestige.
  18. BAI
    0
    20 March 2024 13: 30
    Naturally, the United States will create hypersound. The whole question is when?
    What's the news then?
  19. +2
    20 March 2024 13: 50
    The title of the article simply surprises with its idiocy!!!
  20. 0
    20 March 2024 18: 49
    It's all bullshit. The main thing is that the Houthis created and successfully tested hypersound))))) We are waiting for the first combat use.
  21. -1
    20 March 2024 20: 12
    Explain that this missile is no larger than our dagger, but our dagger has the supersonic MiG31K and Tu22M3 as its first stage (which accelerate above supersonic before launch. They have a subsonic B52 bomber.
  22. +2
    21 March 2024 00: 44
    The Americans are confidently catching up. The B52, which, unlike the Mig31, has a non-stop intercontinental range without refueling, can carry 4 such missiles on external slings. He also has a large bomb bay.
  23. +1
    21 March 2024 00: 52
    Quote from sergeyketonov
    Good afternoon. Mig-31 launches the Kinzhal from an altitude of 20-22 km, at a speed of Mach 2,5 (2650 km/h). What other plane can do this?

    What for? The dagger is an air-launched Iskander, that’s all. And a regular Iskander starts from zero speed
    1. 0
      21 March 2024 12: 34
      Iskander does not take Mach 5 and flies close.
      It takes a moment to be called hypersound.
      I don’t understand this hyperbole at all. Initially, the idea was an “airplane” with speed characteristics like a ballistic missile. But now it has turned out to be a stupid news feed
    2. +1
      21 March 2024 14: 33
      Gennady. Good afternoon. When starting from the ground, the Iskander has a max. launch range - 627 km, when starting from a MiG - more than 2000 km, add here the range of the MiG - 720 km (without refueling). As they say in Odessa, “two big differences.”
  24. 0
    21 March 2024 19: 41
    Americans are such a nation... Capable of unpleasant surprises. You and I know
    . Americans? Native Americans sit on farms and grow corn, other grains, and other living creatures. Those who rule the USA and make decisions there are a completely different nation, although they are also US citizens. sad
  25. -1
    23 March 2024 19: 27
    The Houthis have developed and are starting to produce hypersonic missiles in a conveyor belt, this is not a joke, as they say, it’s not clear, of course, how they tested this miracle. But the Red Sea is full of targets
  26. 0
    25 March 2024 18: 36
    Who deceived whom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????
  27. 0
    28 March 2024 15: 27
    I don’t know about us, but Volodya is definitely aware. He has been led for 25 years for his calloused nose.