Nuclear war in Europe: conceivable or “unthinkable”

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Nuclear war in Europe: conceivable or “unthinkable”

Even before the formal end of World War II, hundreds of US Air Force B-29s were stationed at permanent and temporary airfields in Europe. Since September 1945, the first B-3 (Mk-3) nuclear bombs began to arrive by sea in Europe and were intended to equip B-29 bombers. By 1956, the US Air Force had 28 aviation wings of B-47 bombers and five wings of RB-47 reconnaissance aircraft. The bombers, stationed at forward air bases in Britain, Spain, Germany and Italy, were part of the first line of America's strategic nuclear deterrent. 2000 B-47 bombers on high alert, full of fuel and loaded with nuclear weapons weapons, with crews on standby, were ready to attack the USSR in a short time.

The bomber was capable of carrying in its bomb bays 2 Mk15 nuclear bombs with a yield of 3,8 megatons each, or one B41 with a yield of 25 megatons, or one B53 with a yield of 9 megatons. The bomber had a subsonic flight speed and a range of up to 3240 km, therefore, unlike the intercontinental B-36 and B-52, it could only operate from advanced airfields in Europe. This entire armada of bombers is consolidated into three air armies - the 3rd, 16th and 17th.



In addition to bombers, the United States has deployed a large number of ground-launched medium-range cruise missiles in Europe. One of the features of the nuclear arms race carried out by the United States during the Cold War in NATO was that it was through this bloc that the United States implemented the most important measures related to the deployment of its nuclear weapons on the territory of Western European countries - member countries of the bloc , implementation of its nuclear policy and strategy. This led to an intensification of the nuclear arms race and a significant expansion of its proliferation zone. It is enough to point out, for example, that over the years of NATO’s existence, the United States has deployed over 7000 of its tactical nuclear charges and over 3000 of their carriers on the territory of a number of Western European member countries of the bloc.

From the very beginning of the negotiations on strategic arms limitation (SALT-1; 1973) back in 1972, the USSR raised the question of taking into account forward-based American nuclear weapons in Europe and Asia, which, due to their proximity to Soviet territory, were practically for us equivalent in threat to US strategic nuclear weapons. The nuclear potential of US “non-strategic” weapons, deployed on the territory of European NATO member states, created a direct threat to the Soviet Union and its allies.

By 1962, the US Air Force had more than 1300 intercontinental and medium-range bombers in service, capable of delivering about 3000 nuclear warheads to the territory of the USSR. In addition, the United States was armed with 183 Atlas and Titan ICBMs and 144 Polaris missiles on nine SSBNs of the George Washington and Athene Allen class. The Soviet Union had the opportunity to deliver about 600 warheads to the United States, mainly with the help of strategic aviation, and 6 R-7 (SS-6) missile launchers and 220 R-16 (SS-7) ICBM launchers, which had a low degree of combat readiness and high cost creation of launch complexes, which did not allow large-scale deployment of these systems. The Soviet Union needed to neutralize the nuclear threat hanging over the socialist countries, and here ballistic missiles were ideally suited, as they say, “cheap and cheerful.”

In the 1950s, we had two design bureaus working on medium-range ballistic missiles: OKB-1 by Sergei Pavlovich Korolev and OKB-586 by Mikhail Kuzmich Yangel. The Korolev R-5M (SS-3 Shyster) missile was the first to enter service. In 1959 and 1960, MRBMs developed by OKB-586 M.K. Yangel - R-12 and R-14 - entered service. By the beginning of the Caribbean crisis, 48 ​​R-5M (SS-3), 564 R-12 (SS-4) and 70 R-14 (SS-5) launchers were deployed in the western part of the USSR. If the Caribbean crisis had developed according to a negative scenario, then this entire armada of Soviet missiles 15 minutes after launch would have fallen on NATO’s military infrastructure, primarily the air defense systems - the Nike Hercules, Hawk and Bloodhound air defense systems. And also to airfields, bases of fighter and bomber aircraft. But this is only the first part of the Marlezon Ballet; after a two-hour intermission, the hour of “doomsday” would come, or, better suited, the “hour of the apocalypse” - 1500 Soviet Tu-16 and Tu-22 bombers would freely enter the airspace of Western Europe. A process would begin that has now received a very apt and precise definition: “Glassing of Europe.” In order to arrange a “nuclear apocalypse” in Europe, both sides – the USA and the USSR – had enough strength and means. According to the authoritative American expert Walmtetter, as of October 1962, the United States had 26 nuclear charges, the USSR - 700. The power of these charges, both individually and the total arsenal, is orders of magnitude higher than that of modern ones.

For example: a hypothetical attack - a Tu-22A bomber strikes the capital of Great Britain, London, with a 25-megaton bomb. London is 50 miles across, that is, the diameter of the city including its suburbs is 80 km. The population of Greater London in 2023 was just under 10 million. I don’t think it was much smaller 50 years ago. The explosion took place over the geometric center of London at an altitude of 2500 meters. Excess pressure in the shock wave front within a radius of 32 km from the epicenter of the explosion would be 50-70 kPa (0,51–0.71 kg/sq. cm) - this is a zone of complete destruction for residential and industrial buildings made of concrete and reinforced concrete buildings with lightweight metal frame and frameless design. The city, along with its outskirts, will be completely destroyed. The entire population (100%) in the zone of complete destruction will die instantly, and beyond the 32-kilometer radius the population will still die either within a few hours from third-degree burns or within two weeks from radiation sickness. A single Tu-22A bomb attack would have killed 10 million Londoners. The same fate would await all large and small cities in Western and Eastern Europe.

In the fall of 1962, the USSR had 1500 medium-range strategic bombers (2500-3000 km) Tu-16, 150 intercontinental (up to 7000 km) Tu-95 bombers and 40 M-4 intercontinental bombers. For these bombers, at air bases in the western part of the USSR, there were about 300 SAB-9000 aerial bombs (product 201 and 202) with a capacity of 20 and 25 Mt, respectively, in special storage facilities. But the USSR had only a few intercontinental-range missile weapons in October 1962 - 30 R-16 ICBM launchers (SS-7 Saddler), 6 R-7 ICBM launchers (SS-6 Sapwood) and 72 R-13 SLBM launchers (SS -N-4 Sark) with a flight range of 600 km.

Things weren't much better for the United States. The main striking force is the B-52 strategic intercontinental bombers, and in the fall of 1962 there were 744 of them in the US Air Force, brand new, just out of production. However, the Soviet bombers were also all brand new. American strategic bombers were armed with their own superbomb - the B-41. About 500 B-41 units were manufactured between September 1960 and June 1962. In total, the USSR had 3080 thermonuclear aerial bombs in its arsenals, the United States had 26. And the power of thermonuclear warheads of ICBMs and SLBMs of that time was an order of magnitude inferior to aerial bombs, maximum 700-3 Mt. After 6 years, the structure of the nuclear strategic and non-strategic forces of the USSR changed quantitatively - the majority were missile warheads - tactical, operational-tactical and strategic, aerial bombs accounted for less than one percent of the total. The most powerful Soviet “physical packages” AA 20 and AA 201 in the period from 202 to 1966 migrated from heavy aerial bombs to the warheads of heavy R-1969 (SS-36) missiles. Of the 9 R-288 ICBMs deployed in silos, 36% of the missiles were equipped with these very “physical packages”, and about 80% were equipped with lightweight “physical packages” AA 20 of lower power - 101 Mt. According to American expert Robert Johnston, the Arzamas 8,3-megaton “physical package” AA 8,3 in the 101F8 warhead housing (“light” warhead) for Yangel’s R-674 missiles weighs 36 kg. When naked, YAZU AA 3950 weighs about 101 kg. Subsequently, it was installed on monoblock versions of heavy missiles of the 3000th generation R-4M, R-36M UTTH and R-36M36.

Two divisions of “heavy” ICBMs R-36M UTTH were deployed in Kazakhstan - 54 silo launchers of R-36M UTTH missiles (6 regiments) were deployed as part of the 57th missile division in Zhangiz-Tobe (Solnechny) Semipalatinsk region, another 50 missiles (5 regiments ) R-36M UTTH are deployed in the 38th Missile Division in Derzhavinsk, Turgai Region. The dismantling of 104 launchers located in Kazakhstan was completed in September 1996. 30 missiles out of 104 in the 38th and 57th RDs were deployed in a monoblock version with 101 “physical packages”. A range of 18 km made it possible to do this.

In the 13th missile division (Dombarovsky, Yasnaya), from December 1973, R-30M missiles were installed in 36 silos, subsequently R-36M UTTH and R-36M2, equipped with monoblock warheads 15B86 (heavy warhead) with “physical packages” AA201 and AA202 with a capacity (according to Western sources) of 20 and 24 Mt, respectively. The weight of these devices is just over 5000 kg.

The outer diameter of the midsection of the “physical packages” is 1500 mm and 1770 mm, respectively. That is, both nuclear weapons are suitable in terms of their weight and dimensions as combat equipment for the 2M39 torpedo. They would also be perfect as combat equipment for monoblock versions of the latest “heavy” Sarmat ICBM. I really hope that these 60 “physical packages” are not destroyed, but are gently and carefully stored in the warehouses of the 12th GUMO.

40 years ago, at the height of the Cold War, the greatest concern for the Soviet side was the American FB-111 bombers stationed at the Royal Air Force bases Greenham Comon and Molesworth in the UK, of which 65 units were deployed there, as well as 240 carrier-based US Navy A-6 and A-7 attack aircraft stationed on five aircraft carriers of the 2nd and 6th fleet USA, whose range exceeded 1000 km. They covered most targets in the European part of the USSR. With the advent of the Tu-1974M Backfire bombers in the Soviet Air Force and ADD in 22, questions arose among the Americans.

The non-strategic nuclear forces of the USSR included, first of all, surface-to-surface or surface-to-surface missiles of various types with a launch range from 70 km to 5500 km, which were in service with the Strategic Missile Forces and the Ground Forces, nuclear artillery of the Ground Forces, nuclear aviation, assigned to the Air Force and Navy, as well as non-strategic sea-launched ballistic and cruise missiles, nuclear torpedoes, anti-submarine missiles and nuclear depth charges assigned to the Navy. American estimates show that by the mid-1980s there were 15 nuclear warheads in this category of weapons, representing 400% of the entire Soviet nuclear arsenal. Surface-to-surface missile warheads accounted for 47% of this amount. Warheads delivered by tactical aviation, excluding naval aviation - 31%, nuclear artillery shells - 33%, warheads assigned to the Navy - 13%.

Nuclear weapons assigned to the USSR Ground Forces are nuclear shells 3BV2 (203 mm), 3BV3 (152 mm), 3BV4 (240 mm) and short-range tactical missiles: 9K79 “Tochka” (SS-21 Scarab A), 9K52 “Luna” -M" (FROG-7), operational-tactical: 9K714 "Oka" (SS-23 Spider), 9K76 Temp-S (SS-12M/SS-22 Scaleboard), 9K72 "Elbrus" (SS-1С Scud B) .

In Europe, the United States deployed the MGM-1950A Mace medium-range missile defense system in the second half of the 13s. The MGM-13A Mace missiles have been deployed in the military since 1959; in addition to them, the MGM-13B modification with a range increased to 2400 km entered service. The missiles were equipped with a high-power thermonuclear warhead W28, with a power of 1,1 Mt. The missiles were deployed in the 38th Tactical Missile Wing in Germany. A total of 200 Mace launchers were deployed in Europe. To these “non-strategic” US forces in Europe it was necessary to add the strike capabilities of the carrier-based aircraft of the 2nd (North Atlantic) and 6th Fleets (Mediterranean Sea) of the US Navy. And this is 240 A-6, A-7 attack aircraft and F-4 fighter-bombers, capable of delivering up to 480 B-43, B-57 nuclear bombs in one flight. The B43 has been developed since 1956 by the Los Alamos National Laboratory, and mass production began in 1959. Entered service in April 1961. A total of 2000 units were produced, with production ending in 1965. Ammunition power from 70 kt to 1 Mt. A classic aerial bomb for use against ground targets. Removed from service between 1989 and 1991.

The B57 tactical aerial bomb, universal, was intended for strikes against ground targets, sea (ship formations) and as a depth bomb to fight submarines. Produced from January 1963 to May 1967.

A total of 3100 units were produced during this period. The aircraft bomb, 3 meters long, with a diameter of 375 mm, belonged to the 500-pound class (227 kg) and had a power depending on the modification: Mod 0 - 5 kt, Mod 1 and Mod 2 - 10 kt, Mod 3 and Mod 4 - 15 kt, and Mod 5 – 20 kt. Some of the B43 and B57 bombs were stored on board US aircraft carriers of the 2nd and 6th fleets and at US air bases in Europe, from 100 to 108 units per aircraft carrier. Another 540 nuclear bombs B43 and B57 were on board aircraft carriers of the US 7th Fleet, the rest were at Air Force and Navy bases in the United States.

A total of 2330 "non-strategic" American nuclear weapons deployed in Europe as of 1989 for tactical missiles and artillery shells. Located at US bases in NATO countries - 850 warheads of W-70 tactical missiles "Lance", 180 warheads of W50 tactical missiles "Pershing-1A" and 1300 artillery shells of 155 mm caliber W-48/M451, W-82/M- 785 and 203 mm W-33/M-422, W-79/M-753 shells.


American 8-inch (203 mm) nuclear artillery shell W-79/M-753

According to American estimates, in the mid-1980s, “non-strategic” aircraft of 14 different types, subordinate to the USSR Air Force and Navy, were capable of carrying nuclear weapons. According to American experts, of the 102 warehouses of the 12th GUMO, 75% were geographically located in the European part of the USSR, and in the mid-1980s they stored approximately 6800 nuclear charges, including 4900 nuclear bombs, 1500 nuclear warheads for the Kyrgyz Republic "Air-to-surface" and 400 universal naval aviation bombs.

The number of Tu-22M2/M3 deployed as of April 1988 was 321 bombers. Almost equally divided between the Air Force (ADD) - 178 aircraft, and Navy aviation - 143 aircraft. The aircraft was armed with one or three X-22 air-to-surface missiles (AS-4 a/b/c), the missile had a launch range in various modifications from 280 to 560 km. In addition to the conventional warhead, it could also be equipped with a nuclear TK 55. Experts from IISS, Military Balance 1987-1988 claim that its power is 1 Mt, but experts from Collins and Victory, US/Soviet Military Balance 1988 are closer to the truth and indicate a power of 500 kt . It should be noted that 500-kiloton “physical packages” have become the most common in the Soviet strategic and “non-strategic” arsenal since the second half of the 1970s. In 1973, VNIIEF created its ingenious brainchild - a series of medium-class charges with a power of 500-550 kt - A-104/134. We can say that this is the most popular thermonuclear charge in the armed forces of the USSR. It was installed on almost all carriers: from tactical, operational-tactical and cruise anti-ship missiles to strategic ICBMs and SLBMs. From 1974 to 1985, according to various estimates, from 8000 to 10 chargers were produced. In the Strategic Missile Forces in the second half of the 000s and the first half of the 1970s, all 1980th generation missiles equipped with MIRVs received A-4 charges in the form of 134F15 warheads, 174 warheads per R-10M UTTH missile (SS-36 Mod 18), 4 per UR-6N UTTH missile (SS-100 Mod 19) and 2 per UR-4 MR missile (SS-100Mod 17). But not only ICBMs with MIRVs, but also monoblock missiles received A-2 charges, and old 134rd generation missiles - RT-3P (SS-2 Mod 13), and the newest (mid-2s) 1980th generation – RT-5PM “Topol” (SS-2). In total, the Strategic Missile Forces received about 25 A-7000 devices. At the end of the 134s, all A-1980 charges underwent modernization, during which the power of the nuclear charge was increased to 134 kt, and work was also carried out to extend the service life. The same “physical packages” (A-750) were installed on the operational-tactical ballistic missiles 104K9 Temp-S (SS-76M/SS-12 Scaleboard), 22K9 “Elbrus” (SS-72C Scud B).


Cruise missile X-22

The most common American nuclear warheads in Europe until the end of the 1970s were the W31, which were used as the main combat equipment for the two types of the most popular American missiles - the MIM-14A Nike Hercules missile defense system and the MGR-1A Honest John TBR. In 1979, the Americans removed 1400 W31 warheads from Europe due to the massive withdrawal from the arsenal of NATO countries of the main carriers - the Nike Hercules air defense system and their MIM-14A missile defense system and the MGR-1A Honest TBR. The W31 “physical package” has been produced since 1959, the latest versions were withdrawn from service in 1989. All versions had approximately the same weight and size characteristics - 28-30 inches (710-760 mm) in diameter, 39-39,5 inches (990-1000 mm) in length and weight 900-945 pounds (408-429 kg). The "physical package" had three power options - 2, 20 and 40 kilotons. A total of 1650 W31 warheads were produced for the Honest John TBR and 2550 warheads for the Nike Hercules SAM.

The balance of power between NATO and the USSR in medium-range (from 1000 to 5500 km), tactical (up to 100 km) and operational-tactical (from 100 to 1000 km) nuclear weapons existed for more than 20 years (1962-1983).

Numerous official statements by the leaders of the United States and other NATO countries, made in the 1978-1980s in various publications, stated that due to the “disturbance in the balance of power” as a result of the deployment of the SS-20 missile systems (RSD-10) by the Soviet Union Pioneer"), NATO countries must go for “rearmament”. On the eve of the December session (1979) of the NATO Council, the West even deliberately inflated data on Soviet medium-range missiles. The White Paper of the German Ministry of Defense for 1979, for example, stated that the Soviet Union as of 1979 had 600 medium-range missiles, of which 500 SS-4 (R-12) and 100 SS-20. The London Institute for Strategic Studies in its publication “Military Balance 1979-1980” went even further. The Soviet Union, the brochure noted, has 500 SS-4, 90 SS-5 (R-14) and 120 SS-20 missiles. Both publications indicated that in subsequent years the rate of increase in SS-20 missiles would be approximately 50 units (PU) per year; in 1980, their number should therefore have been 150-170 units. After the NATO Council adopted a decision on “rearmament” in December 1979, the propaganda need to so clearly overestimate the number of Soviet medium-range missiles became less relevant. In the annual report of US Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger on the budget for the 1981 fiscal year, it was noted that the total number of Soviet SS-20 missiles was not 150-170 units, as follows from data published in Bonn and London, but only 60 units, that is, half or even a third of the figures that appeared in the West on the eve of the December (1979) session of the NATO Council. As for the rate of build-up of SS-20 missiles, in accordance with the report of the US Secretary of Defense, they were now estimated to be approximately one and a half times lower - 30-40 missiles per year. At the same time, the report indicated that of the total number of these missiles, approximately two-thirds would be deployed in the European part, in other words, 20-27 missiles.

In September 1983, Chief of the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces N.V. Ogarkov for the first time stories at a press conference broadcast on the central channels of Soviet television, he announced the official figures of the Soviet counterforce medium-range nuclear potential and the figures of the opposing NATO forces. On September 1, 1983, the Soviet Union had 938 carriers of medium-range nuclear weapons - 473 MRBMs and 465 aircraft. NATO countries had 857 carriers at their disposal - 162 Anglo-French SLBMs and MRBMs and 695 aircraft. There is approximate equality in medium-range nuclear weapons. Although the difference in structure was obvious: the USSR had more missiles, and NATO had more aircraft, as well as a one-and-a-half superiority in nuclear warheads. NATO medium-range weapons could carry 3056 charges in one launch (flight), and the corresponding USSR weapons could carry 2153. However, the leaders of the USA and NATO groundlessly talked not only about “quantitative superiority”, but also about “qualitative superiority”. It was expressed, they say, in the fact that the USSR has ground-based mobile launchers of medium-range SS-20 missiles, while the United States does not have similar missiles. Indeed, the US did not have such facilities in Europe until November 1983. However, this did not at all give the United States the right to demand the presence of its own – American – missile counterweight on this continent. The United States already had such a counterweight at that time in the form of forward-based nuclear weapons, and these were 650 aircraft. These planes alone were capable, according to Western estimates, of destroying up to 20 percent of the population and industrial power of the USSR. If we talk about a counterweight in the form of missiles, then Great Britain and France had them then and have them now. In 1983, they had a total of 162 missiles: 64 British Polaris A-3 SLBMs, 80 French M-20 SLBMs and 18 S-3 MRBMs. Of course, this is less than the USSR had medium-range missiles. But NATO had many more bombers and fighter-bombers. The advantages of one side were compensated by the advantages of the other, which expresses the essence of the balance of power. It was important, according to NATO military experts, that the Soviet SS-20 missiles were equipped with MIRVs with three warheads, while the Anglo-French ones were monoblock. Yes, but already in 1985, the new SSBN of France, the Enflexible, came into operation with new M-4 missiles equipped with MIRV IN with six warheads, and in the UK there was an active re-equipment of the Polaris A-3T SLBM with a dispersive MIRV with three W-58/Mk-2 warheads on the Shevaline MIRV with two warheads of higher power up to 225 kt, with the ability to target individual targets (up to 64 km).

IRBM RSD-10 “Pioneer” (SS-20 Saber) was developed by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering (MIT), chief designer – A.D. Nadiradze, using the experience of creation and on the basis of the PGRK “Temp-2S” / SS-X-16. The 15Zh45 missile was created on the basis of the 1st and 2nd stages of the Temp-2S solid-fuel ICBM. The theme of the R&D project for the creation of the PGRK was called 15K645 “Pioneer”. Work on the complex began in 1971. The complex was adopted for service by Resolution of the USSR Council of Ministers No. 177-67 of March 11, 1976. On August 30, 1976, the first missile regiment went on combat duty as part of the Gomel Missile Division (396th Missile Regiment, 33rd Guards Missile Division, Belarus, Petrikov missile base).

The missile launch range, according to the CIA, based on intelligence data, satellite photographs and interception of telemetry from test launches, which was prohibited from being encrypted under the SALT I treaty precisely in order to facilitate the receipt of information by both sides (the Americans were also obliged not to encrypt telemetry information from test launches missiles and mask missile launch positions and places where warheads fall at training grounds). So... Based on these data, the CIA determined the missile's range to be 1 miles (2750 km), while, according to US military intelligence, the missile's launch range was 4400 miles (3100 km).

The 15F453 warhead breeding stage includes 15F452 warheads, a 15L747 sealed instrument compartment, a 15N191 static current converter, a 15Ya117 rocket gyroblock standby thermal control system, 4 x 15D69P low-thrust solid propellant rocket engines. The upgraded 15Zh53 rocket had a larger instrument compartment in diameter to accommodate a more advanced control system. The total throw weight is 1740 kg for 15Zh45 missiles and 1600 kg for the improved 15Zh53.

Full routine maintenance of the 15F452 MRSD 15Zh53 combat unit was carried out once every 1 years.


The 15F452 combat unit had the shape of a cone with a base diameter of about 64 cm and a height of 1,6 meters. Each warhead weighed 290 kg. The 15F452 combat unit was intended to equip the MIRV IN BRSD 15Zh45 “Pioneer” and 15Zh53 “Pioneer-UTTH”. YAZU AA-74 was developed by VNIITF. The charge had a power, according to Collins and Victory, US / Soviet Military Balance 1988 - 150 kT, and this figure has been fixed in the public consciousness for almost 40 years, although it has nothing in common with reality. The real power of the AA-74 nuclear weapon is 400 kt (this is the figure indicated on the 15F452 warhead tablet in the Nuclear Weapons Museum in Arzamas). For the first time, Soviet nuclear physicists from VNIIEF and VNIITF surpassed their opponents from Los Alamos and Livermore in the specific power of nuclear charges precisely on the AA-74/15F452 product of the RSD-10 “Pioneer” complex. Three years after the Pioneer, the Americans are adopting new combat equipment for their Minuteman-3 ICBMs. The missile received an improved NS-20A inertial navigation system, with improved accuracy (CEP decreased from 270 meters with the previous NS-20 system to 220 meters). The warhead of the previous RS-14 breeding unit received new W-78/Mk-12A warheads with increased power to 350 kt, the weight of each warhead being 335 kg. The total throwable weight of the warhead with the breeding unit has increased compared to the previous Mk-12 model from 1150 kg to 1200 kg. The small, I would even say microscopic, weight of the RS-14 DU breeding unit and the fuel reserve, less than 17% of the total thrown weight, led to the low capabilities of the unit for breeding warheads. The maximum separation distance between the aiming points of the first and third warhead does not exceed 50 miles (80 km). And the range fell from 13 km to 000 km, and the throwing weight increased by only 11 kg.

“Pioneers”, depending on the modification of the rocket, had a CEP of 150-500 meters. Western experts are still convinced to this day that there was a test modification of the complex - 15P157 Pioneer-3, with a new 15Zh57 missile (SS-20 SABER mod.3 / SS-X-28 SABER) with a launch range increased to 7500 km. In fact, this is not so; for a new modification they took the version of the 15Zh53 missile (Pioneer - UTTH) with reduced combat equipment (from three warheads to one). Due to a significant reduction in the throwable weight of the missile in this configuration - from 1600 kg to 1020 kg (60%) - the launch range increased from 5500 km to 7500 km.

On December 12, 1979, the NATO commander decided to deploy 572 new nuclear missiles in Western Europe. The US Army planned to replace the Pershing 1a of the 56th Artillery Brigade deployed to West Germany with the Pershing II in 1983, while the German Air Force would retain its Pershing 1a. A total of 108 Pershing II missile launchers and 464 BGM-109G Gryphon land-based cruise missile launchers. Of the cruise missiles, 160 were supposed to be placed in England, 96 in West Germany, 112 in Italy (Sicily), 48 in the Netherlands, 48 ​​in Belgium. All 108 Pershing II missiles were to be stationed in West Germany to replace the aging Pershing 1a missiles. The German Air Force also planned to replace its 72 Pershing 1a missiles with new short-range Pershing 1b missiles, but the Americans refused without explanation.

An important aspect of NATO's decision was its willingness to bargain with the Soviet Union for the reduction or complete elimination of these missiles against similar reductions or elimination of the Soviet SS-20 missiles. NATO's condition for not proceeding with its missile deployment plans would be the Soviet Union's willingness to stop the deployment of mobile SS-20 missiles that could be aimed at Western Europe, and to remove the SS-20s already deployed. NATO estimates that in early 1986 the Soviet Union deployed 279 mobile SS-20 launchers with a total of 837 nuclear warheads based in the western regions of the USSR.




The first Pershing II missiles were deployed in West Germany at the end of November 1983, and the deployment of all 108 PU missiles and 120 missiles, and the same number of W-85 warheads for them, was completed at the end of 1985. Initial Operating Status (IOS) was achieved on 15 December 1983, when the 1st Battery, 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery Regiment entered operational status with the command of the 56th Artillery Brigade at Mutlangen. By 1986, all three missile battalions were deployed with 108 Pershing II missiles stationed in West Germany at Neu-Ulm (3rd Battalion, 84th Field Artillery Regiment), Mutlangen and Neckarsulm (1st Battalion, 81st Field Artillery Regiment) ). The W85 thermonuclear warhead was developed by Los Alamos National Laboratory specifically to equip the Pershing II MRBM. This is a variable power RAM with a choice of power of 0,3, 5, 10 or 80 kilotons of TNT equivalent. The Pershing Ia missile was equipped with a W50 warhead with a yield of 400 kilotons of TNT. By the early 1970s, it became clear that its yield was excessive for an operational-tactical missile—at that time, 400 kilotons was more than many American strategic warheads. The Pershing II MRBM had a high-precision maneuvering (guided) warhead (MARV), equipped with a RADAG radar seeker system, which allowed the missile to use a lower-power W85 warhead. This warhead was designed based on the W61 Mod 3 nuclear warhead. The total weight of the Pershing II warhead section was 268 kg, including the warhead housing. In 1987, a joint Army and Department of Energy study concluded that it was technically and financially feasible to replace the W50 warhead carried by the Pershing 1a with the W85 warhead developed for the Pershing II. However, with the signing of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, development of the conversion was stopped. After the Pershing missiles were scrapped, all produced W85 warheads were modified into B61 Mod 10 bombs. A total of 215 W85 warheads were produced.

The Soviet nuclear arsenal of “non-strategic” weapons, like the American one, in the 1950s-1970s. consisted largely of free-fall nuclear bombs.

244N, 8U69 – 5 kt nuclear bomb (MiG-21PFM, MiG-21S, Su-7), 407N – 5 kt nuclear bomb (IL-28), 8U46 – 5 kt nuclear bomb (Su-7), 8U47 – nuclear bomb 5 kt (Su-7), 8U49, 6U57, 8U63 - nuclear bomb (Su-17), 9U64, RN-25, RN-28 (especially for the Yak-28), RN-29. And megaton-class aerial bombs for strategic aviation (long-range): RN-30, RN-32, universal RN-34 and RN-35 (especially for Tu-142), RN-36, RN-36-01, RN-36V, RN -36L.

Tactical aerial bombs, “two-stage” with an energy release power of 30 kt - RN-40, RN-40-S02, RN-40-5, RN-40-6 for Il-38, MiG-23, MiG-29, Su-17 aircraft, Tu-142, Yak-28. RN-41, RN-42, RN-43.

N32 (or RN-32) is a strategic air bomb. Developer – FSUE “RFNC-VNIITF” (Snezhinsk, Chelyabinsk region). Strategic air bomb N32 (or RN-32) megaton power class. Application - from long-range aircraft - Tu-16, Tu-22A, Tu-22M2/M3, front-line fighter-bombers of the Air Force Su-24M. Chief designers - L. F. Klopov, O. N. Tikhane. Development period: 1970-1980. In service - 1980-1991.


Air bomb RN-40

Entered service in 1971. Developed at the Russian Federal Nuclear Center - VNIITF (Snezhinsk). Serial production – Instrument-Making Plant (Trekhgorny). The weight of the aerial bomb is 430 kg. Information from a sign at the nuclear weapons exhibition in the Chelyabinsk Museum of Local Lore, December 2015.


Nuclear aerial bomb RN-28. Exhibition “70 years of the nuclear industry. Chain reaction of success." Central Manege

Developer – Russian Federal Nuclear Center – All-Union Scientific Research Institute of Experimental Physics (RFNC-VNIITF), Snezhinsk, Chelyabinsk region. Chief designer – Klopov Leonid Fedorovich.

Tactical nuclear weapons were developed in the mid-1960s. The product was put into production in 1969. The aerial bomb was withdrawn from service in 1990. All reserves were disposed of during 1991-1993. Manufacturer: Instrument-Making Plant, Trekhgorny, Chelyabinsk region. The chief designer of the plant in 1969 was Pyotr Nikiforovich Mesnyankin.

The bomb body has a streamlined aerodynamic shape with a low drag coefficient. Stamped "loose feather" type tail with four stabilizers. The front part is made of radio-transparent material to accommodate the radio altimeter of the detonation system. The tail cone contains a brake parachute container. In accordance with the technical specifications, the aerial bomb could be suspended on front-line aircraft of the MiG-21, MiG-23, MiG-27, Su-7B, Su-17M 1/2/3/4 types. Bombing is allowed from a height of 500 to 3000 m, both in horizontal flight and from a nose-up.


Belarusian Iskanders

After the elimination of the 1987K9 Temp-S (SS-76M/SS-12 Scaleboard) and RSD-22 Pioneer (SS-10 Saber) missiles under the INF Treaty (20), we have huge “holes” in our operational-tactical depth capabilities ( 500-1000 km) and in medium-range strike weapons (1000-5500 km). Aviation cannot carry out these tasks, which were carried out by OTR and IRBM - this was obvious even then, and certainly obvious today. Neither the Su-34 nor the Tu-22M3 are capable of overcoming the air defenses of NATO countries.

Today, NATO's nuclear arsenal consists of:

The British component is 64 Trident-2 SLBMs on four SSBNs, normally carrying 160 W-76/Mk4 warheads, with a maximum of 225.

The French component is 64 SLBMs M-51.1 and M-51.2 on four SSBNs, carrying a total of 384 TN-75 and TNO warheads. Plus ASMP-A air-to-surface missiles with TN-81 nuclear warheads (40 units).

In total, the total potential of medium-range weapons of France and Great Britain is 649 nuclear warheads. If we add the American arsenal deployed in Europe to the combined Anglo-French arsenal, we get a total of 829 nuclear warheads. Almost all of them have medium-range carriers of 1000 km and above.

The United States currently has a “non-strategic” nuclear arsenal, deployed in Europe and partly in the warehouses of the US Department of Defense in the United States, according to experts Joshua Handler and Hans Christensen from FAS, formally small - only 230 B61-3 and B61-4 bombs with a power of 170 and 45 kt respectively. The bombs are intended for tactical aircraft F-15E, F-16 DCA, F-35A. Of this number, 180 bombs are stored at NATO tactical aviation bases in Europe: 20 at Kleine Brogel (Belgium), 20 at Buchel (Germany), 70 at Aviano, Ghedi Torre (Italy), 20 at Volkel (Netherlands), 50 at Incirlik (Turkey). Another 50 are located in the United States.

What do we have today with the “counterforce nuclear potential” in the European part of Russia?

Of the medium-range weapons - 30 Tu-22M3 bombers (40 years ago there were 330 units) + 9 or 10 MiG-31K fighters armed with the Kinzhal ASBM, and that’s all, there is nothing else from the medium-range weapons.

Operational-tactical assets (up to 1000 km) - one brigade - 52nd Guards Missile Brest-Warsaw, Order of Lenin, Red Banner, Order of Kutuzov brigade (Chernyakhovsk, Kaliningrad region). The brigade has been armed with the Iskander operational-tactical missile system since February 5, 2018, 12 SPU 9P78-1 with 24 missiles.

In Belarus, the construction of new boxes for mobile launchers 9P78-1 and TZM 9T250 of the Iskander complex, received from Russia, has been completed.

The new facility (photo published in the American journal Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists - https://thebulletin.org/) was added to the existing base at Osipovichi in central Belarus, which is home to the 465th Missile Brigade. Satellite imagery shows construction began in October 2022 and completed in April 2023. A Maxar satellite image taken on July 4, 2023 shows four 13-meter 9P78-1 Iskander launchers and two smaller 9T250 TZMs near the bays. The new facility is located just seven kilometers from the test site where Iskander launchers were first geolocated, and 12 kilometers from the weapons depot of the 12th GUMO, which, according to experts from the FAS, may be modernizing a temporary storage facility for nuclear warheads.

The 465th Missile Brigade (465 rbr) of the Ground Forces of the Republic of Belarus, instead of the OTR-21 Tochka-U complexes, received the modern Russian 2023K9 Iskander complex in 720. The 9M723 ballistic missile of the Iskander complex can be equipped with three types of nuclear warheads: 9N39 with an AA-60 nuclear warhead with a variable power of 10-100 kt, 9N64 with an AA-86 nuclear warhead with a variable power of 5-50 kt, 9N64 with an AA-92 nuclear warhead with a variable power of 100- 200 kt. The Iskander 9M728 and 9M729 cruise missiles can be equipped with TK-66-02 nuclear warheads with a yield of 200 kt and TK-66-05 with a yield of 250 kt.

All strike aircraft of the Air Force of the Republic of Belarus are located at one air base - the 61st Fighter Air Base in Baranovichi. 22 Su-25K and Su-25UBK attack aircraft are based there, and about 20 more Su-25s are in storage. Previously, all these aircraft were in service with the 206th OSHAP (29 Su-25), 378th OSHAP (32 Su-25) and 397th OSHAP (32 Su-25) of the USSR Air Force. Also at the airbase are 12 of the latest Su-30SM fighter-bombers. Among the weapons of the Su-30SM aircraft, in addition to the RN-40 and RN-41 aerial bombs, nuclear warheads can be equipped with air-to-surface missiles Kh-59 "Gadfly" (AS-13 Kingbolt), Kh-59M "Gadfly-M" ( AS-18 Kazoo) and their modifications Kh-59MK, Kh-59MK2.

Su-30SM is the most likely carrier of nuclear weapons in the Air Force of the Republic of Belarus.

Nuclear warheads at the disposal of the 12th GUMO: TK-57-08 for the X-59 missile, 100 kt power, weighing 149 kg. It is also possible to use older TK-43 warheads stored in the warehouses of the 12th GUMO from retired Soviet Kh-28 (AS-9 Kyle) missiles.


“Practical” RN-40 on the ventral pylon of the Su-30SM

In this configuration, the combat radius of action against ground targets of the Su-30SM (with one 500-kg aerial bomb) both in the Hi-Lo-Hi and Lo-Lo-Lo profiles is up to 1500 km, only in the second case with drop tanks, without in-flight refueling. Only the chances of overcoming the air defense of NATO countries - Poland and Germany - are 0% or close to this probability, taking into account the frontal ESR - 4 square meters. m and flank EPR - 12-15 sq. m.

The Kh-59MS2 air-to-air missile is the main weapon of the Su-30SM fighter-bombers of the Belarusian Air Force. It is unlikely that both Su-40 attack aircraft and Su-41SM fighter-bombers will be equipped with RN-25 and RN-30 free-fall bombs - they have no chance of overcoming Polish air defense. But equipping the Su-30SM air-to-surface missile with nuclear warheads is quite likely: the missile, unlike the commercial version of the Kh-59M2, is not equipped with a television-radio command guidance system, but with a control system and seeker from the 9M728 missile system of the Iskander complex and has significantly larger fuel supply. The launch limits of the Kh-59MS2 missiles in the airspace of Belarus at a range of 290 km, the latest modification of the Kh-69 - 310 km in conventional equipment (high-explosive fragmentation warhead - 320 kg) and up to 1500 km in nuclear equipment make it possible to cover most targets on the territory of Poland and Germany.

And these are all our means from the “counterforce potential” in Europe, besides, neither the missile brigades nor the bomber air regiments have at their disposal a single nuclear weapon, all nuclear weapons are stored in the warehouses of the 12th GUMO. It is necessary to stop this harmful, vicious, criminal practice of storing nuclear weapons tens or even hundreds of kilometers from aircraft or missile launch vehicles.

At the beginning of 2023, Russia, according to FAS, had a total arsenal of 4489 nuclear strategic and “non-strategic” warheads in service. This is a net increase of about 12 warheads over 2022, primarily due to the addition of new intercontinental ballistic missiles and one new ballistic missile submarine, as well as the retirement of older warheads. Of the strategic warheads, approximately 1674 are deployed - 834 on land-based ICBMs, about 640 on submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and that's all. All other nuclear warheads are stored in the warehouses of the 12th GUMO. There are approximately 999 more strategic warheads, as well as approximately 1816 non-strategic warheads. According to estimates by American non-governmental experts Joshua Handler and Hans Christensen, the Russian arsenal of non-nuclear weapons currently stands at 1912 units. This number, according to their calculations, includes 290 RA 52 warheads for the 48N6E SAM S-300/400 air defense system, 68 TA 11 warheads for the 53T6 Gazelle anti-missile missiles, 4 TK 55 warheads for the SSC-1B Sepal anti-ship missile system (Redoubt), 25 warheads TK 60 for anti-ship missiles SSC-5 Stooge (SS-N-26) (K-300P/3M-55), about 500 nuclear bombs RN 40/41/42/43, 70 warheads 9Н39 (AA-60) for OTR SS- 26 Stone SSM (9K720, Iskander-M), 20 TK 66 warheads for the SSC-8 Screwdriver GLCM (9M729) and another 935 warheads for anti-ship missiles, torpedoes and depth charges are also at the disposal of the Russian Navy. It is necessary to take into account the fact that the entire arsenal of “strategic” TK 66-02/05 warheads (500-600 units) is also stored in these warehouses. In addition to the operational force's military stockpile, there are a large number of approximately 1400 retired but still ready for use, for a total stockpile of approximately 5889 warheads.

What to do?

1. Urgently unfreeze the program for limited intercontinental range ballistic missiles - the RS-26 "Rubezh" complex with the 15Zh67 (SS-X-31) missile, and begin mass production, deploy in the European part of Russia at least 10 missile regiments armed with these complexes (90 PU).

2. Perhaps it is necessary to bring to fruition my old (2008) preliminary design - a two-stage Iskander medium-range (1500-2000 km) and equip two brigades with it - the 152nd Kaliningrad and 465th Belorussian.

3. Arm the Tu-22M3 KR X-101/102 bombers.
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  1. 0
    11 March 2024 05: 28
    Excess pressure in the shock wave front within a radius of 32 km from the epicenter of the explosion would be 50-70 kPa (3,51–4,92 kg/sq. cm)

    The author is somehow sad with physics
    1. +2
      11 March 2024 09: 54
      Quote: Hwostatij
      The author is somehow sad with physics

      Yeah. You could at least check it with a calculator when editing. Although 30-50 kPa of excess pressure in the shock wave front is a zone of severe destruction, and 50-70 kPa is a zone of complete destruction with mass death of warm-blooded animals. As you can see, the essence has not changed much wink
    2. -1
      April 12 2024 15: 11
      The author is okay with physics (DTN), I would like to look at your numbers at least once, and have some fun at the same time.
      1. 0
        April 13 2024 10: 04
        The author is okay with physics (DTN), I would like to look at your numbers at least once, and have some fun at the same time.

        If you please: 50-70 kPa = 0.51-0.71 kg/sq. see DTN, who does not know physics at the 7th grade level, but writes articles on VO - this is sad. You can have fun.
        1. -1
          April 13 2024 20: 41
          50 kPa - 3,5154 kg/sq. cm. ; 70 kPa - 4,9216 kg/sq. see How else to show it, maybe a screenshot from the Metalist Handbook, published in 1958.
          1. 0
            April 13 2024 21: 18
            Quote from sergeyketonov
            50 kPa - 3,5154 kg/sq. cm. ; 70 kPa - 4,9216 kg/sq. see How else to show it, maybe a screenshot from the Metalist Handbook, published in 1958.

            Your reference book is strange.

            For memory: 1 atm ~ 1 kg/cm² ~ 100 kPa.
            1. -1
              April 13 2024 21: 23
              I'm sorry . Guilty. The old has already become, the blind has become, the conversion table from pounds per square meter. inches from pascals per kg per sq. see confused. I don't see anything anymore. But the article has the correct numbers. Once again I apologize.
              1. +1
                April 13 2024 21: 32
                Google does an excellent job of converting from one unit to another. If you write, for example, “50 kPa to psi,” it immediately tells you that 50 kiloPascals are equal to 7.25189 pound-force per square inch.
                1. 0
                  April 13 2024 21: 45
                  Den. Thanks for correcting it. I'm old, I still use paper media. Although everything in the article is correct, 50-70 kPa is excess pressure in the shock wave front at a distance of up to 32 km. I recalculated it manually.
                  1. +1
                    April 13 2024 21: 49
                    Quote from sergeyketonov
                    I recalculated it manually.

                    Don't use Nukemap?
                    1. 0
                      April 13 2024 21: 52
                      Den. What is this? I'm telling you, I'm old.
                      1. 0
                        April 13 2024 21: 55
                        I think it has something to do with cards, no?
                      2. +1
                        April 13 2024 22: 00
                        Quote from sergeyketonov
                        What is this?

                        A site that simulates the consequences of nuclear explosions.
                        https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/
                      3. 0
                        April 13 2024 22: 03
                        Ah, I understand. Dan thanks. Let's try to use it. How far has the progress come?
  2. +7
    11 March 2024 05: 39
    It is necessary to stop this harmful, vicious, criminal practice of storing nuclear weapons tens or even hundreds of kilometers from aircraft or missile launch vehicles.

    There are a lot of such practices in Russia, unfortunately, despite the fact that things are getting closer to a direct clash with the NATO bastard.
    1. 0
      4 May 2024 19: 36
      As soon as ours start taking warheads to the airfields, we need to go into the Siberian taiga, but they won’t get it and the bear won’t eat it belay
  3. +7
    11 March 2024 05: 51
    How many warheads do we have left? Is there enough for everyone? Otherwise, they have completed their redundancies, and the adversary has nothing to answer with!
    1. +4
      11 March 2024 15: 59
      it's not about the number of warheads - the new realities are critical
      for example a nuclear strike on
      Greater Tokyo will lead to the destruction of 43 people
      London metropolitan area - 24 people
      Paris metropolitan area - 13 people
      Question,
      Parisians, Berliners, Londoners, Warsawians - they just want to die (?)
      1. +7
        11 March 2024 17: 14
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        Parisians, Berliners, Londoners, Warsawians - they just want to die (?)

        Parisians, Berliners, Londoners, Warsawians and residents of Greater Tokyo have nothing to do with decision-making. If the reptilians controlling them decide to “reboot” or “zero”, they will definitely not affect anything.
        Or do you want to incite them to the Revolution?
        Or the liberal-consumer Revolt - senseless but merciless?

        But the author is right - it’s time to return to service all the nuclear warheads in storage. And withdraw from all framework agreements (New START). The US withdrawal from the IRBM treaty has long since given us a free hand, and it is time to resume production of the conventional Pioneer-2M and that same two-stage Iskander. In addition, it is necessary to remove restrictions on the power of nuclear warheads. So if that Iskander-M is capable of throwing a conventional warhead weighing 500 kg. at a range of 500 km. , then why not install nuclear warheads from the same “Pioneer” on it, which, according to the author, weighs about 300 kg. and the power is 400 Kt. ? Why excessive modesty? When even the experience of the SVO shows that the POWER of the ammunition not only MATTERS, but this value is often critical and changes the course of the database.
        IRBMs should be deployed not only in the European part, but also in Chukotka, where, even during the late Soviet Union, a base was built under a mountain of basalt and granite, where Pioneers were based in adits, capable of covering almost the entire West Coast of the United States. But we still need MRBMs in Primorye and Transbaikalia to stop threats and quickly guarantee the destruction of all American bases in Japan and all of Southeast Asia. You should not hand over such significant things to the Chinese. And for them it will be a safety net from us in case of war with the United States.

        But the author has exaggerated somewhat about the wretchedness and insufficiency of our means of destruction for the European theater of operations. He completely ruled out the sea- and land-based "Caliber" missile launcher (since the president had already given the order for 5 years to make a land-based version of both the "Zircon" and the "Caliber"). This task is not difficult, and the missiles are not just in mass production, but not in mass production. Ground-based launchers of such missile launchers and main missile launchers, together with ship-based missile launchers, are capable of providing the necessary mass of strikes. Especially if the Iskander-M and Kinzhals launch the first strike on airfields, headquarters and bases with NATO tactical nuclear weapons. And also on the naval bases of France and England, where their SSBNs are based. The Kyrgyz Republic, which sees the second echelon, will process all other targets on the European Peninsula. . And the third echelon will be air-based missiles. And not only the X-102 (which must fly through the North Pole), but also the X-50, which both the Tu-22M3M and Su-34 are capable of carrying... and almost any other combat aircraft with proper equipment.
        So even with what we have now, it’s enough for Europe. But... it is also necessary to reasonably reserve funds for various surprises... with a coefficient of approximately K=3. Taking into account possible losses from a missed first strike, our weapons intercepted by the enemy, their abnormal operation, and in the event of the discovery of new targets not previously envisaged.
        Those. it is necessary to revive the Spirit of Healthy Militarism. Moreover, without hysteria and nervous storming, but in a calm working order, building up our own forces and strengthening our defense capabilities.
        1. +3
          11 March 2024 17: 44
          Unfortunately, nuclear weapons were taken away from the Fleet in September 1991 - everything, even torpedoes, were left only on SSBNs and only strategic warheads, but even two nuclear missile-torpedoes were removed from SSBNs. which they were entitled to according to the state.
          1. +1
            11 March 2024 18: 54
            Quote from sergeyketonov
            Unfortunately, nuclear weapons were taken away from the Navy in September 1991 - everything, even torpedoes, was left only on SSBNs and only strategic warheads,

            But now the times and the situation have changed, today we have at least a “Threatened Period”. And installing nuclear warheads on "Calibers", "Zircons" and "Onyxes" will not be particularly difficult or technically difficult. Moreover, the "Calibers" and "Zircons" were intended to be "landed" for use with PGRK.
            In a serious war, all these conventional toys won’t even cost a dime. But nuclear warheads are more relevant now than ever.
            It would be interesting (by the way) to adapt the UMPC for free-falling nuclear bombs. And immediately install the “motor”, which they started testing the day before. 100 km. range, this is already a high-quality tactical level without entering the air defense coverage area. Moreover, the engine makes it possible to launch such YUPABs from medium and even low altitudes - from a nose-up (albeit with a shorter range).
            And it’s time to return torpedoes and missile launchers with nuclear warheads to MAPL, NSPL and SSGN. Well, who needs the same "Caliber-M" with its range of 4500 km. and a conventional warhead in “large” TA pr. 971, 945A and 949\949A? ... It's like in that joke - to whistle for a dragon in ... a "cave" ... challenging him to fight.
            Everything needs to be returned to the backside.
            Not "dragon". stop
            And nuclear warheads on all carriers that rely and are suitable for this purpose.
            And on anti-ship missiles, including air-launched anti-ship missiles, and on missiles of all types, and MRBMs to be revived as a class, and in sufficient quantities.
            And in the 12 brigades that operate the Iskanders, the number of divisions will be doubled. Incl. due to TPU with extended range "Caliber" and "Iskander-M". ... and maybe even with Zircon.
            And add a couple of divisions on Zircons to each brigade of the Redut DBK. Without increasing the number of formations, but expanding the organizational structure of the existing ones (the number of divisions in a brigade).
          2. 0
            11 March 2024 22: 35
            Quote from sergeyketonov
            Unfortunately, nuclear weapons were taken away from the Navy

            Sergey, I welcome you!
            The article is informative, but heavy, oversaturated with texture and technical details. The historical part, in my opinion, is unnecessary. After a short introduction, we could move on to today. Then it would be dynamic, relevant, easy to read and inviting to discussion. But this is my personal opinion.
            Now a couple of remarks on the merits:
            1. I believe that the statement that our aviation has a 0% chance of breaking through NATO air defense is incorrect. This is far from the truth! The whole point is that there are supporting actions for breaking through air defense: the physical destruction/suppression of air defense systems by various forces, up to the DRG (as was the case in “Desert Storm”), the use of “AlabuG”, Krasukh and other jammers;
            2. About 12 GUMO, the colleague below spoke in a hint, but VERY to the point.
            3. about the fleet. going into autonomy, entering the BS, all units have a full set of weapons, designed for the initial period of a full-scale war, with the use of appropriate weapons. Equipment for maintenance, CRBD, AUV, etc. corresponds to the tasks of effectively defeating designated targets in the FIRST operation of the fleet/RF Armed Forces. Draw your own conclusions.
            Best regards, hi
            1. 0
              April 12 2024 16: 13
              Buddy! Greetings! Sorry for not answering right away. You left your comment late. By mid-afternoon I had already lost interest in my article. Well, she didn’t come in, that’s understandable. It was impossible to simplify the article, otherwise I definitely wouldn’t have gotten into it. It was necessary to give in detail how it was, how it is and how it should be. So, now about your three points, sorry Friend, but I don’t agree with you on one point.
              According to the first, the main striking force of NATO is the carriers of nuclear weapons - F-35A fighter-bombers, 180 bombs and the same number of F-35A fighters will carry them to our cities. They will fit into our air defense like a knife into butter - I already wrote in the comments - frontal EPR - 0,0001 sq.m, flank - 0,001 sq.m. m (of course there is a lot of advertising here, but even taking into account that the Americans lied, removing a couple of zeros is still not easier). Well, the article mentions our IBAs, the electronic warfare systems you mention - Krasukha, Alabuga, etc. they would have been good somewhere in the 1960s against analogue surveillance and sighting radars. According to modern digital ones, they are absolutely useless. So only MRBMs and hypersonic missiles need to be deployed in commercial quantities.
              Regarding the second point, I wrote a lot, I won’t repeat myself, I will remain unconvinced, if anything happens, then in a personal message.
              As for the third - Alexander, as I understand it, you were very lucky, you served in the “very heyday of the Soviet Navy” from the mid-1970s to the mid-1980s (1975-1985). That is, in the most powerful Fleet in the world, at its very peak moment. Planned Soviet economy + the most talented and smartest naval commander, I’m not afraid of this word, Sergei Georgievich, who did everything to make the Fleet like this. And you didn’t catch the moment when the Fleet was destroyed in 1990-1996. You didn’t catch the moment when they pulled out the 81R missile-torpedoes from the first and second TAs of your dear BDRMs.
        2. +1
          11 March 2024 20: 49
          By the way, geranium will completely absorb a 152 mm nuclear projectile, which will no longer need a cast iron shell. It will be a surprise for enemies if every tenth geranium has a surprise
          1. +1
            11 March 2024 21: 35
            Quote from alexoff
            By the way, geranium will completely absorb a 152 mm nuclear projectile,

            It will completely suck you in. She just has a warhead of 50 kg. Only its engine should not be so noisy. And it’s better to be completely silent, since such a valuable cargo is being dragged around.
            And it’s most interesting to have such “Geraniums” in a special design on... not even ships, but specially equipped vessels. And launch from the sea (not the Black Sea) or the Ocean - from where no one will wait.
            Just so that it doesn’t rattle around like a moped or a mower.
            1. 0
              11 March 2024 23: 16
              Maybe it’s the other way around - in the event of war, no one will pay attention to the next rattling thing, but she’ll go crazy!
              In general, rattling is easily eliminated, especially if the filling costs probably a hundred times more than geranium
            2. 0
              14 March 2024 21: 51
              It is better that the swarm is homogeneous, otherwise if some rattle and some don’t, this will unmask them.
      2. 0
        12 March 2024 09: 24
        And who will ask them about something? Like all of us, actually.
      3. +1
        April 2 2024 13: 33
        And no one will ask them. This meat is just...
        1. 0
          April 2 2024 13: 39
          I agree, here the Ukrainian general suggested striking the Kursk nuclear power plant
          without thinking that this would lead to the collapse of NATO
          because we will hit the Rivne and Khmelnitsky nuclear power plants only more effectively
          that Poland and Germany will become an exclusion zone
  4. +13
    11 March 2024 06: 14
    The review shows that objectively the strongest part of Soviet society was the scientific and technological revolution layer. Which ensured the security of the country.
    But these “Shuriki” were absolutely not the most respected layer in society...

    Indeed, from childhood I remember a big event in our yard: an authoritative man left the Zone. He was greeted as if a hero had returned from space.......this is not Shukshin’s intelligent lie from the film “Kalina Krasnaya”... And this is not “Shurik” with a salary lower than that of a plumber....

    As a result, we have what we have. In 1991, true popular authorities and favorites took power laughing
    1. +2
      11 March 2024 20: 50
      At every university, the most respected people are KV students and athletes; in principle, they don’t need to study, and so the dean’s office will write A’s in their records
      1. 0
        14 March 2024 21: 54
        Footballers and other figures from conventional sports shows have been forgotten :)
        1. 0
          14 March 2024 23: 40
          I wrote - athletes. University and not only sports are always a show.
          By the way, all KVN members and student councils are all oppositionists and for the change of power, they simply adore their own rector, who has been the rector for more than 30 years. And for example, the Faculty of Journalism of Moscow State University was headed by a certain Zasursky from 1965 to 2021, non-oppositionists are hard to find there during the day, and the terms of government - Pugacheva just smokes heavily
  5. -4
    11 March 2024 06: 14
    Putin said there would be no arms race. We will fight back with what we have.
    1. -4
      11 March 2024 07: 34
      So let’s go “elect” him again, so that the diasporas can live freely here, and we die!
    2. +7
      11 March 2024 10: 48
      Quote: Oleg Apushkin
      Putin said there would be no arms race. We will fight back with what we have.

      Would you like him to tell you from the screen the entire state defense order for recent years and the prospects for the next five years? What the author wrote was taken from open sources, as well as foreign analytics. What is actually being done in decision-making rooms and related industries is now sealed under seven seals. Only the lazy did not predict the increase in tension after 2014. I don’t think that Putin, having accepted Crimea, and even more so having started the Northern Military District, was not concerned about the possibility of war with European countries and did not contribute nuclear weapons and means of their delivery to the State Defense Order in the maximum possible quantity. It is useless to look for this only in the media. Do you think the increased number of l / s of the Russian Armed Forces and new districts will be equipped only with AK-47 and MTLB from under the fence? If yes, then in vain...
  6. +2
    11 March 2024 06: 19
    I absolutely support it. We must produce products on an industrial scale and destroy the European evil spirits for the revival of Nazism and the mass murder of both Russians and Ukrainians.
  7. +3
    11 March 2024 07: 05
    There will be 'no full scale' nuclear warfare in the future.
    Radio active isotopes will be used along with toxic chemicals
    in proxy combat situation. (Not in a large scale).

    The future belongs to bioweapons.
    Pentagon, CIA & MI6 are co-ordinating with US bigtech & big pharma
    to 'weaponise' common diseases like fever, meats, chickenpox, hepatitis etc.

    In 2020, they struck down the valuable "human immunity" through covid-19.
    More than 10-000 year old precious "acquired human immunity" is finished
    by zionist deepstate & anglo-americans. They believe in 'Malthusian Theory'.

    Anglo-American colonisers were notoriously famous for killing people
    in African, Asian & Latin American colonies, by distributing 'smallpox infected blankets'.

    Zionist Anglo-Americans now wants to drink Slavic blood.
    Ukrainian biolabs were created to kill slavic population.
    1. -3
      11 March 2024 07: 37
      Write in Russian Basurman, Russian people have gathered here
      1. +6
        11 March 2024 10: 24
        There will be no “full-scale” nuclear war in the future.
        Radioactive isotopes will be used along with toxic chemicals
        in indirect warfare. (Not on a large scale).

        The future belongs to biological weapons.

        The Pentagon, CIA and MI6 are coordinating with US biotech companies and big pharmaceuticals
        companies to "weaponize" common diseases such as fever, measles, chicken pox, hepatitis, etc.

        In 2020 they will destroy valuable "human immunity" with covid-19.
        The Zionist Deep State and the Anglo-Americans have done away with over 10 years of precious "acquired human immunity"
        . They believe in the "Malthusian theory".

        Anglo-American colonialists were notorious for killing people
        in the colonies of Africa, Asia and Latin America, distributing "smallpox-infected blankets."

        Anglo-American Zionists now want to drink Slavic blood.
        Ukrainian biological laboratories were created to exterminate the Slavic population.
        1. BAI
          +2
          11 March 2024 18: 51
          There will be no “full-scale” nuclear war in the future.

          Still to come. In this decade. Here we can argue not about “will it be or won’t it be.” And when will it be?
          1. -1
            11 March 2024 20: 31
            You look at the situation from your point of view, without taking others into account. Now think about those who can give the order to start such a war! After all, having done this, they will lose their entire life, in which they were rulers. Even if they remain alive, in the conditions of post-nuclear winter and radiation, who will they command and how will they be able to exist? Therefore, such people - let's call them "masters of money", because money gives power, and power brings money - have analytical centers that calculate the risks of all actions! In addition, even in conditions of complete hostility, contacts between intelligence services continue, trying to maintain balance. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, it was the KGB and the CIA that commuted between Khrushchev and Kennedy through journalists. So, I hope there will be no nuclear war! But I think that there will be such a struggle for peace, after which not a stone will be left unturned!
      2. +2
        11 March 2024 20: 40
        Quote: Vadim S
        Write in Russian Basurman, Russian people have gathered here

        1. Vadim, if you really want to read the message from the infidel, then you can use an auto-translator. The translation is not literary, but you can get the gist.
        2. on the site there are “Russian people” in spirit, but of different nationalities.
        3. once you call yourself “Russian” - keep your mark to the end: write without mistakes! There is a spelling program on your computer, install it, it will be easier to communicate with “heavily literate people.” laughing
  8. +1
    11 March 2024 07: 36
    Will the measures proposed by the author really be taken? I really doubt it! Our rulers have a kind of peace-loving tone everywhere you throw them, as if they are afraid that they will shout “from there”
    1. -1
      11 March 2024 10: 21
      Don't even doubt it. Their real estate and movables are there. The money is there, the children are there! And they themselves are practically there too. This is just a place to get money for staying there. Remember the sad joke about where a retaliatory nuclear strike from the Russian Federation will be launched?!
  9. +4
    11 March 2024 07: 38
    I served in Schönebeck and knew who we were going to shoot at, we were opposed by the Lance complex, below is the photo, and accordingly we had a 9P117 launcher with an 8K14 missile, we were brought to the BG faster, carried out the launch and went to the reserve area, the second battery remained for re-launch and There was no task of leaving for the reserve area, suicide bombers. This is the simple arithmetic of a nuclear war in Europe. Well, about:
    What to do?

    1. Urgently unfreeze the program for limited intercontinental range ballistic missiles - the RS-26 "Rubezh" complex with the 15Zh67 (SS-X-31) missile, and begin mass production, deploy in the European part of Russia at least 10 missile regiments armed with these complexes (90 PU).

    2. Perhaps it is necessary to bring to fruition my old (2008) preliminary design - a two-stage Iskander medium-range (1500-2000 km) and equip two brigades with it - the 152nd Kaliningrad and 465th Belorussian.

    3. Arm the Tu-22M3 KR X-101/102 bombers.

    I have always been suspicious of the competence of people who, without knowing the full depth of the matter, give seemingly simple and correct solutions at first glance. In reality, it turns out “it was smooth on paper...”
  10. +2
    11 March 2024 08: 06
    ....this is only the first part of the “Marlezon Ballet”, after a two-hour intermission the hour of “doomsday” would come, or, better suited, the “hour of the apocalypse” - 1500 Soviet Tu-16 and Tu-22 bombers would freely enter the airspace of the Western Europe. A process would begin that has now received a very apt and precise definition: “Glassing of Europe.”

    Let's leave aside the author's other ideas.
    But at least you can read something, at least in VO, about the Cuban Missile Crisis?! Before you write?!
    1. -1
      April 13 2024 14: 43
      I don’t understand, should I read my own article from a year and a half ago? The main result of the Caribbean crisis was that Khrushchev outright beat Kennedy and exchanged 42 Soviet missiles for 305 American ones. He completely quarreled the Amers with the British, Italians and Turks. Well, the Germans are no strangers, the Americans have been wiping their feet on them for the last 80 years. These are just “thank you owner.” But the British were severely offended. Of course, 60 missiles for which the Queen paid a million pounds sterling in gold from her personal funds were simply stupidly taken away by the Americans in 1963, essentially stolen. When the scandal arose - well, okay, they promised the same number of Sky Bolt ASBMs in the future, but they threw away even these missiles. In the end, only after the contract for British SSBNs with the supply of Polaris A3 missiles, technical documentation for the Laffaette SSBN, reactors and W-58/Mk2 warheads, did the British calm down. The Americans gave the Italians a hard time; in 1961 they promised 8 Polaris A1 missiles and 8 W-47/Mk1 warheads for the cruisers Giuseppe Garibaldi and Vittorio Vinetto, and in 1963 they simply showed the muzzle. The Turks didn’t even get this, they were just quietly robbed.
  11. +1
    11 March 2024 09: 52
    4e make a mass-produced missile launcher for tactical aviation Su34-30-35
    5e attached to the YaB UMPC
    6e Make a Tornado-S rocket with correction from nuclear warheads
    7e make a tornado-S type ballistic missile for tactical aviation 300mm

    This is so offhand...
    1. DO
      0
      11 March 2024 22: 37
      Zaurbek (Zaur), most likely, first of all, naval anti-ship missiles with nuclear warheads will be needed for all types of carriers.
      As well as means of intercontinental delivery of tactical missiles (preferably unmanned), both with conventional and nuclear warheads, for various stages of hypothetical escalation.
      Well, of course, it is necessary to put the strategic nuclear forces in complete order, in a hypothetical extreme case.
  12. -1
    11 March 2024 09: 53
    In this regard, it is necessary to add the possibility of deciding to launch a nuclear strike. Now it is more likely from the NATO countries than then. We must not forget about the forces deploying strategic nuclear forces in relation to the United States. It was much bigger then than it is now. This was the main deterrent to the use of nuclear weapons, not the forces stationed in Europe. And of course, missile defense. It is this system that plays the most important role in a nuclear war.
  13. +1
    11 March 2024 11: 23
    When I read authors writing about “#nuclear weapons,” I notice the same mistake every time - gentlemen, before you think about a strategy of action, ask yourself a question - WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU SEE THIS STRATEGY AT THE ROOT?
    It is impossible to sit on several chairs - it is impossible to prescribe some kind of universal strategy (and at the same time effective), which would be designed for the first strike, and for the oncoming and retaliatory strike. One cannot assume that nuclear weapons will be “approximately sufficient to destroy enemy military targets” and think of this as some kind of threshold that creates an “unacceptable level of escalation.” The enemy has industrial capacity, democratic potential - the enemy will remain capable of maintaining (in theory) its statehood - of course, not all of it. But the key one. Will we retain our statehood in this case? Considering that our population is much closer to industry. objects and much more crowded, and a significant number of military objects are also near large agglomerations.

    Now, the problem is that everyone who writes about nuclear weapons “in action” probably doesn’t have a very good idea in what way we will use it. And by the way, this is a pressing question - given its quantity, the question of “widespread glazing” in a retaliatory strike will be extremely, extremely doubtful. And that “they will just die there..(s)” - this will also be extremely doubtful. Such prospects would only be possible in the event of our first strike - how ready are we really for something like this?
    Based on articles of this kind, one may get the impression that we are ready “in theory” to make some kind of first weak-demonstrative move in the “escalation to de-escalation” style, and that we are ready for a counter-attack or retaliatory strike.
    But the question is, how ready are we to act as the “first fiddle” and from the best positions? The unthinkable happens, and no “Perimeter” can compensate for the effectiveness of the first move.

    I understand that in many ways our strategy is based on “ceremonial horror”, just as in many ways it was based on conventional weapons before the start of the SVO. But behind this there must be something definite, quite specific planned activity.
    From the point of view of the author and many who wrote about this at VO, a real nuclear war is hellishly abstract. Well, let's say we destroyed London. Is this a game over? Well, let's say we swept away New York and Washington, a couple of American naval bases, large European logistics hubs - let's say. What can be swept away from us by counter-reciprocal and counter-reciprocal by that time? Can we break the state models of our opponents and preserve ours in various scenarios of use?
    The presence of the missiles themselves, even the most suitable and powerful ones, does not solve the larger problem - missiles are a tool, but not a “ready-made solution”.
    It is customary for us to think that it is our response that can deter the West from action - but is this so? I think it would be interesting to read an article about the first strike strategy on our part from the author or others knowledgeable in the topic.
    1. +3
      11 March 2024 12: 45
      First we need to understand what we want to get as a result of the use of nuclear weapons.

      Break the will to resist and force them to accept our conditions?
      Completely destroy the enemy as a state?
      Die yourself and destroy as many enemies as possible?

      IMHO, nuclear weapons are not suitable for the first goal, the second goal is unattainable, and the third is not very practical.
      1. +2
        11 March 2024 13: 11
        With an understanding of what we want from application, everything is also extremely unclear.
        Scare them to leave? Doubtful. The whole world is in ruins? Impractical and unfeasible.
        Break the will to resist? This would only work in one case - if we had the opportunity to deliver a 100% hidden massive first strike with minimal response. Otherwise, who would they surrender to? Ashes with a population of 20-30 million?
        Completely destroy states? There are no such stocks of nuclear weapons and carriers for them. Complete destruction means the destruction of 70-80% of the industrial and energy base, logistics hubs, knocking out 60-70% of the demographics. In this case, there will be a collapse with the destruction of the backbone of states because its economy, organization and ability to produce and resist will be near zero, and society will begin to eat itself. This is an impossible task because it would require the first salvo to deliver about 10-15+ thousand warheads in the shortest possible time. This is an empirical assessment - perhaps more would be required

        The "kamikaze" option is absolutely frivolous. At the moment, the West can probably destroy us and survive (albeit in a very battered form), I see the opposite as much less optimistic.

        The potential of the “scarecrow” is being eroded in our country and the problem probably cannot be solved by some kind of demonstration. At one time, negotiations on reductions took place at a time when we had a real opportunity to destroy Western civilization and not cause it some, albeit significant, damage. Also, we ourselves had a much better civil defense and more goals, enterprises and the readiness of all this for a major conflict than now. Everything is like in that saying about “a kind word and a gun” - one gun is not enough, you need something else. IF the West has the idea that we have a more or less objective opportunity to effectively collapse it with the same nuclear weapons (and not just hit it, albeit hard) - there will be the reaction we need. If not, then the bogeyman will stop working over time, and we will pay for the conditional “destruction of London-Paris” with our existence.
        1. +1
          11 March 2024 16: 43
          That's right, let's talk further.

          All that remains is the first blow, which is also the last, which will cause such damage to the enemy that he will not be able to respond and at the same time suppress his will to resist. (By the way, why, while we are not at war with anyone yet, it is just more profitable for us to trade than to fight).

          I think that such a strike is, in principle, impossible from our side, since there are a lot of opponents and some of them are overseas. In case of failure, our country will most likely be destroyed, the people broken and suppressed, if they survive as a people at all. The risks are unacceptable, but madmen may be in power.

          This means that nuclear weapons are a weapon of deterrence, “fleet in being,” and nothing more. If only they weren't crazy.
          1. 0
            11 March 2024 17: 33
            You are now arguing very typically for the paradigm of our thinking, but this paradigm has vulnerabilities. In these places there are very unstable assumptions - that the model that worked in the past technological era will work now. This comes from our traditional tendency to “conservate” thought or existence - we perceive something somewhat stable as unshakable, like firmament.
            The question is, “Is this solid?” In the old days, the enemy was stopped by our “horror” because he had significant “incomplete information.” In the 90s, he studied the capabilities of our complex and since then has been monitoring its growth on the pulse. Its analytical and satellite monitoring capabilities have increased, as have the accuracy and stealth of its delivery vehicles. Our “horror” works the better the less the enemy knows (with a wide range of uncertainty), the greater the number of target objects he needs to destroy to minimize our retaliatory strike, the larger and unpredictable We will inflict damage on him with such a blow. And in general, his desire to negotiate will not be associated with our strong defensive position, when our logic comes from IF and WHEN, and our actions are THEN-type actions. He will be much more inclined to negotiate if he understands that in addition to the THEN model, we also have a BEFORE and BECAUSE model of action.
            When we purely reflect and this goes throughout our entire application model, this model can be stretched (which we see in Ukraine, by the way), since you know much better and more accurately where the REAL red lines are, and that before they cross, NOTHING will happen stupidly.

            Now I’m not talking about “prospects for real application” - I’m pointing out that our “horror” is becoming less and less effective, because it is perceived as less and less real and more and more predictable,what it should be .
            If our entire plan continues to be based on waiting for some extremely abstract doomsday, then I point out that this is a lousy plan for containment. We need two plans and one of them must be preventive. And they should know about this and it should not be something from G and sticks, but a set of measures that will break their civilization much more than a simple “response to headquarters.” This will deter them from aggressive actions much better, and they will also be much more willing to negotiate. We all like reducing risk and uncertainty.
            In the case of the USSR, even the absence of a plan (possibly) through elements of large-scale preparations in the complex (civil defense, build-up of strategic nuclear forces, example with Cuba) showed the West that there was probably a plan - and they began to wonder what kind of plan it was, this drove them mind and finally pushed to the negotiating table. In our case, they know much more clearly that there are NO plans, because the logic of actions in the style of “we are going to heaven and they will just die” is really nonsense that no one believed.
      2. +1
        11 March 2024 13: 20
        The same West, in its concept of the BGU type, indicates the timing and approach, i.e. HOW it can do it.
        High-precision strikes on key enterprises, industrial and economic areas, military installations and “decision-making centers.” Their complex quantitatively seems to be sufficient to cause us “irreparable damage,” not to say lethal, but critically disorganizing. The West is not considering some kind of significant military damage pushing for negotiations - it is precisely the destruction of the complex ability to resist and organize through a number of means.
        In our case, the maximum that is voiced is varying degrees of confusion about #nuclear weapons that will fly somewhere out there, in different directions, to Paris, to London, to New York and as in that joke “1,2...PROFIT !" You can sell this to your rednecks, but can you sell it to Western elites or the military?
        They study us quite scrupulously, and now, in particular, too. Behind the “Horror” there must be a really effective plan in the “popular version”, of course. Like the same BSU.
      3. DO
        +1
        12 March 2024 00: 31
        Quote: S.Z.
        First we need to understand what we want to get as a result of the use of nuclear weapons.
        Break the will to resist and force them to accept our conditions?
        Completely destroy the enemy as a state?
        Die yourself and destroy as many enemies as possible?
        IMHO, nuclear weapons are not suitable for the first goal, the second goal is unattainable, and the third is not very practical.

        Let's look at NATO's actions during the Northern Military District. These actions, of course, are aimed at causing damage to Russia - the more, the more desirable for the alliance. BUT with minimal risk of any damage to the leading NATO states, primarily the USA.
        That is why we see a smooth and gradual escalation - expressed in the gradual increase in the supply of modern and long-range Western weapons to Ukraine, at the first stage in the official denial of the participation of NATO troops in hostilities (only now Macron has “talked”, for which the NATO Secretary General “zipped” him ), and so on.
        Therefore, let us consider, as the most likely scenario, a continuation of a cautious step-by-step escalation at the initiative of the West. “Gradual escalation” excludes the three mentioned in the quote by S.Z. scenarios of sudden massive use of nuclear weapons.
        Seeing the deployment of Russia's superior military potential in the Northern Military District and predicting the defeat of the Ukrainian-fascist regime in Ukraine, NATO is most likely planning to open a “second front” by “sacrificing” one or more NATO countries - “recruits” to the alliance: for example, Finland, the Baltic states , and others.
        The following hypothetical stages are predicted here.
        Stage 1 - the use of only conventional weapons, against objects on the “original” territory of Russia, against ships of the Baltic and Northern fleets. These can be both military and civilian targets, including Russian cities.
        The Russian response is natural in terms of carriers, which can be NATO ships, submarines, aircraft, or the territory of countries unfriendly to Russia from which missile launches were carried out against Russia.
        In parallel, a symmetrical answer is also logical for the objects of the country in which the “decision-making centers” are located, i.e. the USA. This is what the Russian President promised the world.
        Stage 2 - a symmetrical exchange of strikes from low-power nuclear charges, from Russia, again, both on the carriers and on the country containing the “decision-making centers”.
        Stage 3 - symmetrical exchange of limited strategic nuclear forces strikes between Russia and the United States.
        Stage 4 - full-scale exchange of massive strategic nuclear forces strikes.
        Stages 2...4, of course, will cause damage to the United States in proportion to the level of escalation, but will not destroy the state as such. Another thing is likely - the United States, having received nuclear strikes, will cease to be the global “hegemon”, the “metropolis” of the empire of planet Earth. Stage 4 - one hundred percent, stages 3 and 2 - the probability is less, but strong.
        The globalist forces (“reptilians,” as some VO commentators call them), who seem to have set themselves the goal of reducing the Earth’s population by several times, judging by the “Covid madness” they have organized, are completely indifferent to the population of which countries they are reducing, including the USA . But in the US itself, it seems that Republicans are more concerned about US internal problems than Democrats. Therefore, it is very likely that the escalation will accelerate before the US elections in November of this year, because the “reptilians” are using proven democrats “to the fullest.”
        1. DO
          0
          12 March 2024 00: 55
          PS
          Mistake:
          Quote: DO
          Stage 4 - one hundred percent, stages 3 and 2 - the probability is less, but strong.

          It should be "Stage 4 - one hundred percent, stages 3 and 2 - less likely, but not much."
          Mistake:
          Quote: DO
          judging by the “covid madness” they organized

          It should be: “judging by the “Covid madness” they organized”
        2. DO
          0
          12 March 2024 01: 03
          P. S2.
          Mistake:
          Quote: DO
          “Gradual escalation” excludes the three mentioned in the quote by S.Z. scenarios of sudden massive use of nuclear weapons.

          It should be: ““Gradual escalation” excludes the three scenarios of sudden massive use of nuclear weapons mentioned in S.Z.’s quote.”
    2. +2
      11 March 2024 16: 01
      I agree with you - the first strike is the most interesting topic. If in 1962 there was a nuclear war, the goal of both sides was to inflict the greatest damage on the enemy, well, roughly kill as much of the enemy’s manpower and civilian population as possible, inflict maximum damage to the economy and industry, and the entire strategy was built on the basis of these plans - to deliver the first nuclear strike with ballistic missiles , disable the enemy’s air defense, deprive him of the ability to resist and finish him off by striking cities with heavy bombers and super-powerful thermonuclear bombs. in fact, the term “Glassing of Europe” had the right to exist in this case. Of the 500-700 million people living on the territory of Greater Europe - Western, Eastern, Western parts of the USSR, perhaps several tens of millions of rural population would remain alive - well, this is obvious. a senseless disaster. Now, of course, everything is not like that, and you won’t be able to “glaze” anything, there is too little ammunition, and they are low-powered. But, if we refuse the obligation. taken on by the communists in March 1982 - not to be the first to use nuclear weapons; by the way, the Chinese Communist Party took on the same obligation; other countries do not engage in this humanism, which is not at all characteristic of capitalism. For capitalism, the main and only value is money, and people are fodder for capital. Recently there was my article: “Preventive nuclear strike, or how to avoid a big war” where I outlined in detail how to launch a disarming strike on 5-6 NATO bases with small forces - one naval and 5 air force bases, but it’s impossible to do without casualties, they will die from 2000 to 3000 NATO troops, But the advantages we receive after such a disarming strike make it possible to firmly stop the process of further slide into disaster, which could result from a full-fledged and full-scale exchange of nuclear strikes by strategic forces between the United States and Russia.
      1. +4
        11 March 2024 16: 29
        Yes, and also, probably the most important thing, guys, you think I don’t understand that creating a “counterforce potential” using medium-range weapons, such as we had 40 years ago, is fantastic, you’re wrong, I understand everything, our economy, industry 25 times less than the USSR. This is not what I want, but what needs to be done. Recent inspirational footage from the Kazan plant with four freshly painted Tu-160s, three refurbished, produced in 1983, and one assembled from the plant’s stock - “new” and this for several years. These shots did not lift my spirit, on the contrary, I felt such melancholy - once, 40 years ago, the Kazan plant made 12 Tu-160s per year from scratch (one per month) and 52 Tu-22M3 aircraft per year (one per week). And this is in addition to civilian products. Someone, a very smart person, I don’t remember who, said: “You won’t be able to paint what the communists built.” I apologize to everyone - a cry from the heart.
        1. 0
          April 2 2024 15: 58
          I agree with you. This pace, sadness and feeling of hopelessness are very sad. The Kaluga Turbine Plant produced 3 military main turbines per year for underwater strategists, the 4th turbine was a transitional one. And now they can’t pass one for 3 years. It's about pace. And so it is in everything. Also, at VNIIMET, we invented the world's first LED technologies and artificial crystals for microprocessors... and now in the building of the plant for their mass production (the workshops were erected in 1991) the Kaluga Baths are located (((apparently steaming and frolicking has become more important for people.. ... and there were amethyst and garnet - electronics factories, where crystals for microprocessor technology were grown under conditions of artificial weightlessness...
  14. 0
    11 March 2024 12: 09
    1. Why can’t ICBMs immediately removed or removed from service be used as shorter-range missiles along upward or downward trajectories?
    Civilian space launch vehicles can also be used for this purpose; there are no new rockets yet.
    2. The range of existing Iskanders can probably be quickly increased - a lighter nuclear warhead and additional launch boosters.
    1. +1
      11 March 2024 15: 47
      Quote: Kostadinov
      1. Why can’t ICBMs immediately removed or removed from service be used as shorter-range missiles along upward or downward trajectories?

      If a nuclear war starts within a year or two, then yes, it’s possible.
      Otherwise, ICBMs being removed from service for conversion into ICBMs will require at least reloading with fuel (for Topol), which will slow down the rate of commissioning of new ICBMs.
      The second problem is PU. Each of these ICBMs will take one silo or ground chassis away from the strategists.
      1. +1
        11 March 2024 16: 57
        Alexei. Good afternoon. As you can imagine - “reloading with fuel (for Topol)”, it’s also carbon fiber, such a number as with the “Minuteman” will not work, that “iron” one, melting and pouring a new one will not work. And why, leave it as it is, remove only the third stage and reprogram the on-board processor for a new program. Yes, you will have to tinker with the SPU, either make a new one, or cut the old one on one axis, and you will have to make a new pencil case. In general, of course, it’s better to make a new one. Once upon a time, the Votkinsk plant produced one RSD-10 (15Zh45) per week and one Topol per week. That is 104 missiles per year. I understand it’s impossible now, but how is that? a market economy is more effective, everything is clear right there.
        1. 0
          11 March 2024 18: 02
          Quote from sergeyketonov
          Alexei. Good afternoon. As you can imagine - “reloading with fuel (for Topols)”, it’s also carbon fiber, such a number as with the “Minuteman” will not work, that “iron” one, melting and pouring a new one will not work.

          This means you will have to change the stage assembly.
          Quote from sergeyketonov
          And why, leave it as it is, remove only the third stage and reprogram the on-board processor for a new program.

          Because if you do not change solid fuel on time, then there is a high chance of getting something like this:

          And the replacement of ICBMs is progressing according to schedule.
          Quote from sergeyketonov
          Yes, you will have to tinker with the SPU, either make a new one, or cut the old one on one axis, and you will have to make a new pencil case.

          Oh yes... and now let’s remember that SPU is made by a single plant, moreover, located outside the Russian Federation. Will he be able to make chassis for Yars and hypothetical MRBMs in parallel? And how much will Old Man ask for this?
          1. +2
            11 March 2024 18: 42
            Alexey, I’m afraid there’s not much time left, maybe a year, maybe two. You need to follow two paths at once, which can be done very quickly, needs to be done. Replace "Onyxes" with "Zircons" with nuclear warheads on "Bastions" urgently. Replace the "Basalts" with "Burevestniki" on the two remaining pr 1164 - "Marshal Ustinov" and "Varyag", with the replacement of two "Osa-M" air defense systems with "Pantsir-M" we will get another 32 launchers. And at the same time, bring forward long-term programs such as the Rubezh RS-26.
            1. -1
              11 March 2024 21: 47
              And in a year or two, do you think they will give up? And what do all your suggestions give? What has been falling apart for 30 years cannot be restored in a year or two, and there is no one to do it. It looks like it was TERRIBLE to bring you, for some reason. They could eat us, without any damage to themselves, when the hungover, fingerless usurper danced in a drunken stupor and shouted God bless America in their Congress. For some reason this didn't happen. There is no point in exposing themselves to them. All these calculations about who will have how much will survive and function are absolute nonsense. The puppeteers really want to live, but they don’t care about statehood, whether they will partially survive or not. They are above all this mouse fuss. This means that even partial radioactive contamination of habitats is unacceptable for them. And yet, I already have everything that I need to have from Russian territory. And the people of Russia have a great time, through the bourgeois government. Why do they need a nuclear apocalypse?
              1. +2
                12 March 2024 10: 01
                Quote: Essex62
                They could eat us, without any damage to themselves, when the hungover, fingerless usurper danced in a drunken stupor and shouted God bless America in their Congress. For some reason this didn't happen.

                What for? Then everything suited them - the country was under their leadership, the white Zusuls carried gifts in exchange for promises and some cut paper for the leaders - and they were also proud that they were supposedly considered equal, and local politicians bore all responsibility for the consequences of their decisions. Ideal neocolonialism.
                1. 0
                  12 March 2024 14: 12
                  Is anything different today? Well, our nouveau riche got their ass off with the descendants of pirates, so what? Russia is ideologically, and now (30 years old Karl) and mentally, part of the huckster world. It still lies as it lay. It just became more difficult to exchange hydrocarbons for beads. The Chinese, they are cunning, everything is in their favor. And their beads are second-rate.
  15. BAI
    +4
    11 March 2024 17: 10
    all nuclear weapons are stored in the warehouses of the 12th GUMO. It is necessary to stop this harmful, vicious, criminal practice of storing nuclear weapons tens or even hundreds of kilometers from aircraft or missile launch vehicles.

    1. For decades this practice suited everyone, but a smart author came and opened everyone’s eyes - is everything wrong?
    2. As a person who served in the 12th Main Directorate of the Moscow Region, I responsibly state that the quote is not entirely true. If the author does not know where the error is, let him remain to his opinion, I will not enlighten.
    3.
    What to do?

    Revive railway-based nuclear weapons.
    1. +2
      11 March 2024 18: 54
      Quote: BAI
      2. As a person who served in the 12th Main Directorate of the Moscow Region, I responsibly state that the quote is not entirely true. If the author does not know where the error is, let him remain to his opinion, I will not enlighten.

      Who will give the correct answer -
      He will get ten years!
      © smile
  16. 0
    11 March 2024 19: 40
    Well, yes, it’s rather weak even by VO standards, and the number of mistakes exceeds all conceivable limits. Myths about armadas of bombers, forests of missiles and hundred-megaton earth axis shifters are being replicated again. In our reality, there were only 95 Tu-40 bombers, and the “products” for them numbered in the dozens and were by no means super-powerful, but just serial versions of the well-known RDS-4 (ed. 4) and RDS-6 (ed. 6). Author, learn to use literature.
    1. 0
      April 13 2024 03: 35
      Quote: Flying
      Author, learn to use literature.

      Why do you write about the Tu-95, but suggest using literature on the Tu-22R?
      1. 0
        April 13 2024 19: 51
        because

        Quote from sergeyketonov
        For example: a hypothetical attack - a Tu-22A bomber strikes the capital of Great Britain, London, with a 25-megaton bomb.
  17. +1
    11 March 2024 21: 10
    Have you forgotten how WW1 unfolded?
    Brother-kings, all relatives, similar to each other like brothers, and also friends, endlessly visiting each other...
    As soon as some kind of mobilization began, everyone began to wildly rush to mobilize even faster, grab each other’s throats, and drive millions of commoners into the slaughter of war...
    It will be the same here. Until ’22, everyone was rocking, despite the PR of “3000 Armat” and “unbreakable hypersound.” And as soon as there is a real threat of nuclear weapons, everyone will rush to be in time, in time, in time....

    And even China is a guarantor of the non-use of nuclear weapons on the territory of Ukraine. But neither he nor Old Man recognized Crimea...
  18. +1
    12 March 2024 06: 53
    The photo in the article is not PH40, but 244N. The author is incompetent. It's just annoying.
  19. +1
    12 March 2024 15: 47
    From the category - What to do, I would add - increase the number of MiG-31s ​​with the Kinzhal missile.
  20. ada
    0
    12 March 2024 22: 36
    There is an interesting material: “The United States is improving its nuclear arsenal: the “devil’s dozen” in the B61 family of thermonuclear bombs” (Chief Specialist of the Center for Geopolitical Research of the Baltic Region of the Institute of Geopolitical and Regional Studies of the Immanuel Kant Baltic Federal University, Yuri Zverev.), haven’t you read it?
    https://eurasia.expert/ssha-sovershenstvuyut-yadernyy-arsenal-chertova-dyuzhina-v-semeystve-termoyadernykh-bomb-b61/
    there is an interesting sign there


    and earlier: "Doomsday Weapons": the history of US nuclear expansion in Europe"
    https://eurasia.expert/oruzhie-sudnogo-dnya-istoriya-yadernoy-ekspansii-ssha-v-evrope/
  21. 0
    13 March 2024 18: 53
    What I would like to point out. They decided to liquidate us. Those. We are talking about exactly the case when in the end everything ends with the application of the last argument. And we should prepare for just such a development of events. Therefore, we need to develop precisely those means that will allow us to get ahead of them at the very initial stage. And these are Zircons, especially in the version of the soil complex for Europe and Ashes for the states. And also options for the hidden use of nuclear weapons, for example, at extremely low power, which will be invisible against the background of other noise. And unconventional launches, such as R-37M missiles with Su-57.
  22. 0
    16 March 2024 12: 51
    I think everyone who has ever been interested in the lethality of nuclear weapons and the potential damage from the massive use of nuclear weapons understands that nuclear missiles are not a wunderwaffe. In principle, if a) unexpectedly b) successfully strikes c) you can demolish the enemy’s large cities first. The problem is that large cities produce “services”. This is not where industry is concentrated. And secondly, the huge mass of people living in megacities does not affect the fighting in any way. You can look at the average portrait of a participant in the fighting in Ukraine. It is clear that small towns and outskirts are a real forge of heroes. Neither Moscow nor Kyiv are particularly visible there. In the USA it’s the same - they recruit soldiers and sailors from the poor towns of the states of the south and mid-west.

    That is, if you demolish millions of people at once, the opportunity to fight will not go away. Spending 5-6 thousand missiles on cities means failing to process enemy launchers and receiving the same blow in response. A single explosion of all 10000 American and Russian nuclear missiles will not crack the planet, life will not stop, everything will go on as usual. The whole point of yao is the threat of its use. For 80 years now, this has made it possible to minimize the scale of wars and localize their consequences, which is already a huge plus. We look at both world, Napoleonic and seven-year ones (everything has been going on on a global scale since the 18th century).
  23. 0
    April 10 2024 22: 48
    two-stage Iskander. Definitely!