Give, produce or buy: EU problems with artillery ammunition

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Give, produce or buy: EU problems with artillery ammunition
A Ukrainian artilleryman from the crew of the M109 self-propelled gun works with ammunition. Photo of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine


In March 2023, the leadership of the European Union promised to supply the Kyiv regime with 1 million 155 mm artillery rounds over the next year. The stated deadline is coming to an end, but they have still not been able to fulfill the promise, and the Ukrainian artillery has not received the desired shells in the required quantity. Moreover, serious problems in the European military industry were revealed.



Unfulfilled promises


Let us recall that in mid-March 2023, the European Union drew up and accepted for implementation a program to assist the Ukrainian artillery. According to this plan, several European countries were supposed to collect 1,1 billion euros and use these funds to produce 1 million 155 mm artillery rounds for the Kyiv regime within a year. Another billion was also required to restore warehouse stocks spent earlier to help Ukraine.

It is curious that the Ukrainian side did not appreciate the generosity of its European allies. The Kiev command announced the need for many times larger volumes of ammunition. Over the next year, it wanted to receive 15-17 million shots. They forgot to explain how and where these shells were supposed to come from.

At the end of October, the American publication Bloomberg revealed the interim results of the European program obtained in the first six months. His sources said the program achieved only 30% of its goals. In addition, it was already assumed that it would not be possible to fulfill the production plan on time.


Imported 155-mm shells on Ukrainian positions. Photo Telegram / BMPD

However, representatives of the European Union remained optimistic. In early January, EU Commissioner for the Internal Market Thierry Breton said that factories in several countries could produce a million shots before the end of spring. At the same time, it was known that before the beginning of 2024, European countries managed to transfer less than 400 thousand shells to Ukraine, both from warehouses and from new production.

In light of data on production and supply volumes, T. Breton's statement looked overly optimistic. The production of 500-600 thousand rounds over the next few months is simply impossible with existing production facilities. However, the EU leadership tried to save face.

Failure and its reasons


It is obvious that a year ago the European Union overestimated the capabilities of its industry. Thus, to supply a million rounds per month, a monthly shipment of more than 80 thousand shells is required. In the current situation, European industry simply cannot provide such production and supply rates.

For example, the French ammunition industry - one of the strongest on the European continent - is capable of producing only 3 thousand shells per month. A production modernization program is currently underway, and by the end of the year they will be able to produce 5 thousand products per month, i.e. 60 thousand per year. Other European countries that have the necessary production facilities cannot even show such results.


Vulcano guided projectile in the ammunition load of a Ukrainian self-propelled gun. Photo: Telegarm/BMPD

As it turned out, real and theoretically possible production indicators were negatively affected by problems with the supply of raw materials, which are of critical importance. Thus, in early March, T. Breton announced that the production of ammunition was faced with a shortage of gunpowder. The production of the latter, in turn, is difficult due to the lack of raw materials in the form of a specific type of cotton, which was supplied from China. The supply of such cotton stopped several months ago. The commissioner called the supply stoppage “sort of random.”

It is reported that replacements are already being sought for Chinese cotton. The products of European cotton growers are now undergoing the necessary checks, and they can be accepted for the production of nitrocellulose and gunpowder. How and with what result the current tests will be completed is unknown. Also questionable is the timing of this work and, if completed successfully, the time for restructuring the production of ammunition.

There are problems with other resources as well. Thus, due to the lack of energy resources, the bulk of which was previously supplied by “aggressive and threatening” Russia, the metallurgy industry is suffering. The production of metals and alloys needed by the ammunition industry is being reduced. The shell factories themselves also require energy.

Replacing missing raw materials and reducing the availability of other resources, according to the laws of a market economy, leads to unnecessary costs. Accordingly, the cost of production increases. Just last fall, the European Union was discussing a sharp increase in prices for 155 mm ammunition - one shot cost the customer 7-8 thousand euros. Apparently, the situation has not improved over the past months.


M777 howitzer, destroyed at the firing position along with its ammunition. Photo Telegram / Dambiev

Purchase plan


Thus, the plan for the production and delivery of a million rounds to Ukraine during the year could not be fulfilled - no more than half of the required number of ammunition was shipped within the specified time frame. However, European countries do not give up their desire to support the Kiev regime and are looking for new solutions. Now a proposal has emerged and is being developed to purchase finished products from countries outside the EU.

The Czech government proposed a new plan. In February, Czech President Petr Pavel announced the possibility of purchasing 800 thousand artillery rounds. It is proposed to purchase 500 thousand rounds in 155 mm caliber and 300 thousand 122 mm products. The estimated cost of such products reaches 1,4-1,5 billion euros.

Almost immediately, several European countries joined this initiative and expressed their willingness to contribute money for the purchase. In addition, a number of heads of state soon held negotiations with the Czech leadership on organizing such purchases. The plan received positive reviews and participants expected the desired outcome to be achieved.

On March 7, P. Pavel announced that the new “coalition” already includes 18 countries. She managed to raise the necessary amount, and an order for shells is being prepared. He also promised that deliveries would begin soon. According to him, the first batches of ammunition will be sent to Ukraine in the coming weeks. However, the next day the Czech authorities clarified these data. It turned out that we were only talking about money for the first batch of shells, and the supplies still needed approval.

Where exactly the shells will be purchased has not been officially announced. The foreign press wrote that India, South Korea and some African states were being considered as potential sellers. However, it is unknown whether these countries are ready to sell the ammunition they have and, if so, in what quantities.


Self-propelled gun M109 after damage and detonation of ammunition. Photo Lostarmour.info

It is quite possible that they will not want to part with their reserves, based on their own combat effectiveness and safety. You should also expect that potential suppliers will put a high price on their shots - taking advantage of the market situation or remembering the need to replenish their stocks after the sale.

Scarce item


Two years ago, the EU countries decided to help the Kyiv regime with the supply of weapons and ammunition in the hope of defeating Russia. Such forecasts and expectations did not come true, but European countries themselves faced various difficulties. Thus, one of the most problematic was the sphere of artillery ammunition. It has developed several problems in succession, and the situation continues to worsen.

Over the past two years, EU countries have shipped significant quantities of projectiles and propellant charges to Ukraine from their own warehouses. At the same time, they reduced the reserves of their armies and worsened their performance. Further supply of ammunition from existing stock is not possible due to obvious threats to our own safety. Nevertheless, even in this situation it is planned to continue assistance to the Kyiv regime.

A year ago, a plan for the production and delivery of a million shells was adopted, but it was never implemented for a number of objective reasons. It turned out that the European ammunition industry deteriorated after the end of the Cold War, and restoration of competencies within the desired time frame and at acceptable costs was not possible. In addition, the EU has independently created a number of difficulties for itself that hinder the development of production.

Now, instead of independently producing shells, they are planned to be purchased “outside.” Given the characteristic features of such a plan, one can expect that he too will encounter a lot of difficulties. As a result, the Kiev regime is unlikely to receive the promised 800 thousand shots from abroad in the near future. However, there is no doubt that the countries participating in such a purchase will be able to successfully utilize the allocated budgets and will not lose money.
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  1. 0
    10 March 2024 04: 17
    We need to plant a pest bug on the fields of European cotton growers. smile
    Let them scratch their heads on how to get rid of it.
    The production of a large number of shells without reliable supplies of raw materials is impossible... this is Europe's Achilles heel... and then they need to pick at this heel with something sharper.
  2. +8
    10 March 2024 04: 36
    NATO countries were not ready for a full-scale conflict. But we need to look ahead, what scenarios await us?
    It is clear that in the medium term, the issue of ammunition will be resolved one way or another in the West, and China is not the only supplier of cellulose.
    For us, delaying the SVO is very unprofitable. A number of countries with large reserves of 155-mm shells are not yet providing them to Ukraine, but what will happen next?
    1. -8
      10 March 2024 08: 44
      And then we will make 152 and 122 mm more. Yes, and in Europe there was already the Thirty Years' War
  3. -6
    10 March 2024 04: 57
    Shut off the hell out of their gas pipeline and not only... for six months... and the shells won’t be produced at the potbelly stove, you can sell the timber... you won’t get far on firewood lol
  4. -6
    10 March 2024 05: 15
    Quote: Tucan
    It is clear that in the medium term, the issue of ammunition will be resolved one way or another in the West, and China is not the only supplier of cellulose.

    You must first know how long the NWO will stretch...and then make forecasts for the medium term.
    Nobody knows how long the SVO will last... everything is decided on the battlefield... where there are too many X-owls. request
  5. -8
    10 March 2024 05: 32
    The European ammunition industry has degraded, and restoration of competencies within the desired time frame and at acceptable costs is not possible.
    Indeed, deliveries to Ukraine and promises to supply even more clearly illustrated this. To restore their production to the ability to produce a large number of shells, it takes time, and quite a lot, and the European “friends of Ukraine” do not have it today. It is also possible to purchase externally not indefinitely, because... In connection with the Ukrainian events, everyone realized that it was necessary to have their own reserves, and considerable ones at that. The problems of Europe are only to our advantage. The fewer shells Kyiv receives, the more lives of fighters and civilians will be saved.
  6. 0
    10 March 2024 05: 38
    I wonder in what region of Europe such a unique agricultural crop as cotton can be cultivated.
    Recently, Transcaucasia is considered Europe. Maybe they will buy it somewhere there?
    At some congress of the CPSU, the first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Uzbekistan, Rashidov, promised dear Leonid Ilyich to collect 6000000 tons of cotton. Most of it, low-grade, was used for the production of gunpowder. That was the scale and large-scale additions (cotton business)!
    1. +5
      10 March 2024 08: 20
      Quote: andrewkor
      Recently, Transcaucasia is considered Europe. Maybe they will buy it somewhere there?


      Buying cotton is not a problem; the largest cotton producers are: India, China, USA, Brazil, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, etc. even if China doesn't sell, others will.
  7. +5
    10 March 2024 07: 02
    EU countries decided to help the Kyiv regime with supplies of weapons and ammunition in the hope of defeating Russia. Such forecasts and expectations did not come true, but European countries themselves faced certain difficulties


    I would like to know what difficulties we are talking about? How easy is it to discuss the “problems” of Europe, but what is much more important is what has changed on the opposite side of the conflict? - the production of modern (!) weapons has improved, maybe the fleet has learned to defend itself against modern threats, or have they built drone aircraft in the required quantity? so the next “Europe is tired of the conflict” has been taken into account as part of the election campaign!
  8. +2
    10 March 2024 08: 45
    1: 100 = $000 for a 000 mm projectile, and on the “market” $1-000 per projectile! It’s difficult for capitalists to patronize the arts when there is no profit.
  9. BAI
    0
    10 March 2024 08: 47
    The production of the latter, in turn, is difficult due to the lack of raw materials in the form of a specific type of cotton, which was supplied from China. The supply of such cotton stopped several months ago.

    If China doesn't pull back, it will be very good. No matter how bad Uzbekistan is.
  10. +4
    10 March 2024 09: 41
    The failure to supply Ukraine with a million ammunition is primarily due not to production problems, but to bureaucracy.
    The program was adopted in March 2023, and factories received orders only in October. The largest new plants for the production of shells are being built in Germany (200 thousand shells per year) and France (120 thousand shells per year).
    Rheinmetall plans to increase production of 155 mm from 70 thousand in 2022 to 700 thousand in 2025.
    The United States revised its ammunition production program only in November 2023, their production has already increased from 14 to 37 thousand per month and plans to reach 60 thousand per month by October this and 100 thousand by October next.

    I'm afraid that parity in ammunition production will be achieved in 2025. Before the SVO, we produced about 800 thousand 152 mm. shells per year, 2/3 of them by refilling methods. Apparently, production has increased to 2-2.5 million shells per year due to the transfer of existing capacities to a round-the-clock work schedule, but to further increase production it is necessary to build new production lines, this takes us several years, and there is no such information from PR people from the Ministry of Defense.

    PS I very much doubt the price of 8 thousand € per shell. According to American weapons procurement reports from the Procurement of Ammunition Army, in 2023 the US Army bought the most popular 155-mm M795 projectile for $839; in 2024, the purchase price increased to $1474. The price of ammunition on the international market is of course higher, but not by that much.
    1. +4
      10 March 2024 10: 30
      I saw similar analyzes on a German website, in 2025 the West will reach production capabilities at the level of Russia. There is no point in looking at the current situation, since remember that the production capabilities of Western factories are many times greater if they are willing to invest in new lines and put production on war footing.
    2. 0
      10 March 2024 13: 21
      Quote: Ivan Seversky
      The failure to supply Ukraine with a million ammunition is primarily due not to production problems, but to bureaucracy.
      The program was adopted in March 2023, and factories received orders only in October. The largest new plants for the production of shells are being built in Germany (200 thousand shells per year) and France (120 thousand shells per year).
      Rheinmetall plans to increase production of 155 mm from 70 thousand in 2022 to 700 thousand in 2025.
      The United States revised its ammunition production program only in November 2023, their production has already increased from 14 to 37 thousand per month and plans to reach 60 thousand per month by October this and 100 thousand by October next.

      I'm afraid that parity in ammunition production will be achieved in 2025. Before the SVO, we produced about 800 thousand 152 mm. shells per year, 2/3 of them by refilling methods. Apparently, production has increased to 2-2.5 million shells per year due to the transfer of existing capacities to a round-the-clock work schedule, but to further increase production it is necessary to build new production lines, this takes us several years, and there is no such information from PR people from the Ministry of Defense.

      PS I very much doubt the price of 8 thousand € per shell. According to American weapons procurement reports from the Procurement of Ammunition Army, in 2023 the US Army bought the most popular 155-mm M795 projectile for $839; in 2024, the purchase price increased to $1474. The price of ammunition on the international market is of course higher, but not by that much.

      It’s not so simple: of course, it’s possible to increase the production of shells many times over. But this will require very large investments in production and personnel, in logistics, in the end. That is, roughly speaking, you need to buy machines and train personnel, but this does not fit within the specified amounts and time frames. And, besides, a normal capitalist will have a question: “What, exactly, should we do with all this when it’s all over? And what will the trade unions and creditors say?” Therefore, I think that all these weapons initiatives in terms of “broaden and deepen”© will be quietly sabotaged by the real executors... wink
      IMHO hi
  11. Des
    +2
    10 March 2024 12: 07
    It is naive and harmful to assume that European countries will not solve the problems they face in the production of shells. They will decide. They have the desire, finances, and motivation for this. Gas for 300 green. It's not much more expensive than ours.
    1. 2al
      -1
      11 March 2024 11: 06
      Gas was almost $3000 and was also $120 relatively recently. Now the price has decreased due to the shutdown and evacuation of large-scale chemical and ferrous metallurgy from the EU (measures to save gas consumption). What will happen to the energy balance in the EU and gas prices is difficult to predict even this summer, but what is already known is that steel and alloys for the production of power supplies, as well as explosive components, will be imported in noticeable volumes.
  12. +5
    10 March 2024 12: 21
    I would like to add one element to the discussion. When producing ammunition, it is necessary to comply with certain requirements regarding the type of explosive, safety during storage and handling. To produce ammunition for Ukraine, some companies are asking to introduce a state of emergency, allowing them to waive some requirements. For example, what is the point of producing ammunition that can be safely stored for years if it can then be fired in a few months. Why should I only use the steel specified in the specifications? why not use less corrosion resistant steel. In short, some manufacturing companies are asking for a reduction in bureaucratic restrictions on ammunition destined for Ukraine.
    1. 2al
      0
      11 March 2024 11: 17
      At the same time, there is an important point: how will these optimized (mobilization) BP behave in 52-caliber barrels at pressures of 330 MPa and firing rates of up to 6 rounds per minute? In general, relying on shells is rapidly losing its meaning due to the significant reduction in cost and increase in accuracy of both MLRS and the mass use of noticeably cheaper fpv at a range of up to 15 km from the LBS. Guided bombs are much better suited for destroying fortifications, so for artillery the list of targets is noticeably reduced, while the requirements for accuracy and range are growing, which are completely incompatible with the cheapness of shells.
  13. -3
    10 March 2024 17: 10
    It’s funny to discuss the behavior of idiots - before you promise, in general, it’s worth asking whether you have what you promise or not laughing
    1. +2
      10 March 2024 18: 09
      It's funny to discuss the behavior of idiots

      Who are you talking about? And then a couple of years ago, someone wanted to get to Kyiv in three days, and then it turned out there was no army, no shells...
      1. Lad
        -1
        10 March 2024 19: 17
        So, it’s not like trying to move bags. This is how it is done here. This is not an analysis site. This is a jingoistic site. For people with a “certain” mentality. (There are always such people). Starting from the title, the article necessarily tells how useless all these tanks, guns, and shells the enemy has, and ending with comments about how stupid all these gay Europeans with dill are. And everything seems to be just fine. It’s just not entirely clear where all these Kievs are in three days and in general how it is possible to fight for so long with such impenetrable idiots and even constantly retreat. They left several areas, then the planes first stopped flying over enemy territory, and then stopped approaching the front line, then they left the Black Sea, then... But what am I talking about? The main thing is to “interpret” everything correctly and “explain” it to the people. ))) Like: we heroically attack, and the enemy runs after us in disgrace. And EVERYTHING is great.
  14. +1
    11 March 2024 08: 31
    Yes, they just don’t need all this. That's the reason. No one is going to attack the Europeans and they understand this very well. This is precisely why they are not planning mass production of ammunition. And they have already made a decent amount of money and plan to continue making it, now on the restoration of the Outskirts.
  15. 0
    13 March 2024 12: 19
    Where exactly the shells will be purchased has not been officially announced. The foreign press wrote that India, South Korea and some African states were being considered as potential sellers.

    Today and in the near future, only Russia, China and the DPRK can produce such a number of shells per year. You cannot receive them from China and the DPRK. China does not export cotton for gunpowder, much less shells. North Korea does not produce 155 mm shells. But from Russia through third countries - the same India or some African states (Egypt, Algeria, and so on) may have time.