Does Iraq no longer need Ukrainian armored personnel carriers?

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Does Iraq no longer need Ukrainian armored personnel carriers?


At the end of January 2013, the media reported that the Iraqi Defense Ministry was considering the possibility of canceling the contract with Ukraine for the supply of 2009 BTR-420 armored personnel carriers signed in 4 in the year. According to published data, the Iraqi side has big complaints about the technical and operational characteristics of the armored personnel carrier, the quality of their production. In addition, Iraq is dissatisfied with the constant disruption of the Ukrainian side of the delivery dates. However, it seems that there is a certain political aspect in this matter.

Today, it is no secret to anyone that 2009 contracts of the year, worth about 458 million dollars, and which involved the purchase of over four hundred wheeled armored vehicles in Ukraine, were in fact imposed on the Iraqi government by the United States of America. Thus, the US government "thanked" Ukraine for supporting the military campaign in Iraq. Recall that in the 2007 year, the US military published information that in the near future over three hundred Ukrainian armored personnel carriers BTR-3Е1 are to be sold to Iraq through the American system of intergovernmental supplies FMS. However, the Iraqis had to conclude a contract for the purchase of more modern armored personnel carriers BTR-4. Thus, Iraq became the first customer who bought the Ukrainian “novelty”. According to the terms of the signed contract, all wheeled armored vehicles, namely 420 units, should have been delivered to Iraq before March last year.

Despite this, the Iraqi side has so far managed to get only 88 machines from the specified 420 (26 of them were sent in the spring of 2011 of the year, and 62 machines in the middle of the autumn of 2012 of the year). Such delays in deliveries are primarily associated with a large number of problems faced by the Kharkiv Malyshev Plant.

It should also be noted that at the moment there is no information regarding the payment document, according to which the Ukrainian defense industry could receive money for armored personnel carriers sent in the vulgar year.

By the end of 2012, it was planned to ship another batch of BTR-4 in the number of 94 vehicles to Iraq. But, as is already clear, deliveries were not made, and the machines themselves are still at the production stage. And even more, the Iraqi Defense Ministry, referring to the fact that the contract had come to an end, announced in the autumn of 2012 that it intended to initiate negotiations with Russia and South Korea regarding the supply of similar armored vehicles.

Such behavior of the Iraqi side is quite expected. From the very beginning of the contract, there were problems with its implementation: either the Ukrainians delayed deliveries, or the Iraqis refused to accept the equipment due to malfunctions. And each time there were "extreme" - those companies in which it was possible to shift all the blame for failures. But in reality, as analysts say, the problem is not at all in the quality of Ukrainian technology, since it fully meets NATO standards. The fact is that representatives of the Iraqi Ministry of Defense cannot find a common language with representatives of the Ukrainian concern Ukrspetsexport.

More specifically, we are talking about Dmitry Salamatin, who, barely taking up his duties as minister of defense, tried to take international contracts under his personal control. He initiated the suspension of intermediaries, through whose efforts Ukraine was able to sign a contract with Iraq. In addition, they were given a condition - to give three-quarters of their earnings under the contract. It is clear that the mediators refused. Then offshore structures were introduced into the financial scheme, which had nothing to do with this contract, which, in fact, threatened a multi-million contract.

But, as experts say, the management of Ukrspetsexport did not take into account one feature of the arms market - all large-scale contracts are concluded solely with the help of intermediaries who are trusted by both the buyer and the seller. It is clear that when the Ukrainian side refused to play by such simple rules, Iraq considered itself completely free from any obligations.

By the way, similar problems exist in Ukraine’s negotiations with Ethiopia, China, Libya and many other states with which the Ukrainian defense-industrial complex cooperates.

It should also be noted that the new BTR-4 wheeled armored personnel carriers were to be supplied to the Ukrainian army. However, it is clear that the decision to acquire 10 machines of export configuration BTR-4E had a clearly defined political character. The appearance of these machines in the Ukrainian army was supposed to promote the advancement of technology to the international market as such, which is used by the national armed forces. However, in spite of the fact that deliveries were supposed to be carried out before the end of last year, so far they have not yet been made.

For a long period of time, the Ukrainian military ministry sharply criticized the basic design of the BTR-4 armored personnel carrier, demanding that it be modernized and redesigned to a considerable degree. Such improvements were planned to be carried out in the framework of the BTR-4M project. Only at the beginning of this year, a prototype model of an armored personnel carrier BTR-4МВ for this project appeared. At the same time, in order to reduce the cost of production, the car was converted from the BTR-4В, which was unsuccessfully moving to Macedonia. The whole essence of the rework was to install the aft ramp and replace the bow of the hull with a new one, without doors and armored glass. At the same time in the rear part there is a folding ramp with an additional door, through which landing is possible. Armor protection has 3 level according to NATO standards. In addition, it is possible to install additional protection in order to provide 4 and 5 levels of protection according to NATO standards. The prototype is equipped with the German engine Deutz and the American Allison gearbox. On the armored carrier installed combat module "Sail".

However, in view of the uncertain position of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense regarding the BTR-4 armored personnel carriers, as well as the obvious shortcomings of the vehicles, the Bolshoi-5 and BTR-9. According to official information, these vehicles will resemble modern Western armored personnel carriers and will have more powerful mine protection. In addition, several years earlier, at a different Ukrainian enterprise, the Nikolaevsk Repair and Mechanical Plant, a prototype BTR-7 was developed and produced, which was subsequently successfully tested in the UAE.

Thus, it is quite obvious that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex has potential. And only on competent leadership and sufficient funding will depend on whether the products of the Ukrainian defense industry can compete in the global arms market.

Materials used:
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/447999.html
http://gazeta.zn.ua/POLITICS/bagdadskie_vorishki.html
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  1. +1
    4 February 2013 09: 34
    Hmm. Regrettably!
    1. homeland
      +1
      4 February 2013 09: 49
      Well, the market does not suffer such delays.
      1. +6
        4 February 2013 10: 09
        When it all ends then ... All our life we ​​have been one whole, and now ..
        1. +1
          4 February 2013 15: 45
          When it all ends then ... All our life we ​​have been one whole, and now ..

          In truth!
          The future is integration and unification. Only together can we confront the challenges and threats of the modern world
          .
        2. nok01
          +4
          4 February 2013 20: 12
          And now 60% of my fellow citizens born in 91-93 believe that they do not need to learn Russian in schools! sad That's what it all goes to ... Bendera’s parliament also passed!
  2. +4
    4 February 2013 09: 47
    Lord Ukrainians. Well, whoever conducts business like this, they still haven’t earned a reputation as gunsmiths, but already demand kickbacks. hi
    1. Akim
      +5
      4 February 2013 09: 59
      kotdavin4i,
      If the flag is correct on the IP, then the American bourgeois demanded 96 lemons.
      1. +8
        4 February 2013 10: 43
        Her flags are wrong, I'm on the tablet through sim therefore it seems so. I’m from Azerbaijan. drinks
        1. Akim
          +1
          4 February 2013 10: 54
          kotdavin4i,
          Then we ask for petitions. But the meaning of my phrase is clear - what kind of darm to do it?
        2. +2
          4 February 2013 11: 11

          kotdavin4i
          Her flags are wrong, I'm on the tablet through sim therefore it seems so. I’m from Azerbaijan.

          I welcome you San Sanych! hi Allow, I will correct, the native is more true good

          1. +2
            4 February 2013 15: 03
            Apollo,
            Not a brother of the past! So more beautiful! laughing
          2. +1
            4 February 2013 16: 49
            Cheerful day Apollo, I have the ancestors of my maternal grandfather from under Kherson, so that the Ukrainian part of the blood, too. Fat cracking behind my ears popping laughing
      2. 0
        4 February 2013 21: 14
        If you are not Russia and not the USA, you will have to pay baksheesh. That bakshish is shared by the intermediary and the defense department of the buyer, and the intermediary receives a minuscule. No one says it's good. But why on earth did the Ukrainian Defense Ministry decide that Ukraine has a word as weighty as the two countries I have mentioned?
        Moreover, our and American deliveries are official from top to bottom. That is, "unofficial" everything is also through intermediaries and nothing else. The desire to eat a fish and not choke on the bone is off scale so that it is simply ridiculous ...
    2. VAF
      VAF
      +9
      4 February 2013 12: 33
      Quote: kotdavin4i
      Well, who does business like that,


      You might think that WE, or rather Rosoboronexport, is running this .... "arms business" is better wassat lol

      Examples? So I have them ...... here .. "fresh" wassat

      Brazil is interested in purchasing some Russian anti-aircraft systems.

      The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the Brazilian Armed Forces, General Jose Carlos De Nardi, commented: ... anti-aircraft missile systems) "Igla".



      Now we carefully read and think bully :

      It is planned to discuss the purchase of the complexes with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, whose visit to Brazil is scheduled for late February.

      The Russian-Brazilian agreement, according to de Nardi, may also include the construction of a factory and the transfer of technology for the production of "Shell" and "Eagle" in Brazil. ???? belay bully

      The Brazilian delegation left Russia a week ago.

      During the negotiations, the transaction value was discussed including the construction of a plant, which is estimated at $ 1,5 billion. wassat bully

      The peculiarity of the possible deal will be the fact that it will actually represent a tender-free purchase on the principle of "technology in exchange for the market". !!!!!!!!! wassat

      To be continued..... wink
      1. VAF
        VAF
        +3
        4 February 2013 12: 34
        Quote: vaf
        To be continued.


        Continuing .....:

        All subsequent deliveries will be made to Latin American countries from the future Brazilian plant.

        It is also known that the Russian side offered the Brazilians the Tor-M2 air defense system, but they categorically demanded only the Pantsir. !!!! wassat bully

        "Value" lol the future deal also consists in the fact that it opens up opportunities for penetration into the fighter market of Brazil. wassat

        Another option ... of "cooperation", which was also discussed some time ago, may be Russia's entry into the project for the development and then production of the Embraer KS-390 medium military transport aircraft, which has much greater chances of success than the long-suffering Russian -Indian Il-214 / MTA and partly An-70. crying

        Well, about meat in exchange for fighters ... has already been discussed wassat

        so let's better at home .. "figure it out", and not get into the "affairs" of the Ukrainian brothers ..... themselves .. "problems" ... do not take out! soldier
        1. toguns
          +5
          4 February 2013 13: 04
          Quote: vaf
          Continuing .....:

          All subsequent deliveries will be made to Latin American countries from the future Brazilian plant.

          It is also known that the Russian side offered the Brazilians the Tor-M2 air defense system, but they categorically demanded only the Pantsir. !!!! wassat bully

          The "value" lol of the future deal also lies in the fact that it opens up opportunities for penetration into the Brazilian fighter market. wassat

          Another option ... of "cooperation", which was also discussed some time ago, may be Russia's entry into the project for the development and then production of the Embraer KS-390 medium military transport aircraft, which has much greater chances of success than the long-suffering Russian -Indian Il-214 / MTA and partly An-70. crying

          well, about meat in exchange for fighters ... wassat was already discussed

          so let's better at home .. "figure it out", and not get into the "affairs" of the Ukrainian brothers ..... themselves .. "problems" ... do not take out!

          According to RIA Novosti, the Associated Press reported this with reference to the official statement of the Brazilian military department.

          According to di Nardi, the Brazilian Armed Forces are interested in purchasing three Pantsir-C 1 ZRPK batteries (from 12 to 18 machines) and two Igla MANPADS batteries.

          This issue is planned to be discussed with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, whose visit to Brazil is scheduled for the end of February.

          The Russian-Brazilian treaty, according to di Nardi, “may also provide for the construction of an enterprise and the transfer of technology for the production of the Pantsir-S1 air defense system and Igla MANPADS in Brazil,” reports RIA Novosti.

          It clarifies the "Kommersant", citing its sources, the parties are now discussing the technical details of the transaction and the scheme for its implementation.

          According to Kommersant, “Russia will agree to transfer licenses for assembly of products to Brazil, and the latter will refuse to hold the tender necessary in the case of purchases abroad, since the Needles and Pantsiri assembled locally will be considered products of the Brazilian defense complex. The deal could bring Russia more than 1 billion dollars. ”

          “According to the statement of General di Nardi, a draft bilateral agreement on equal partnership in this field has already been prepared. This proposal of the Russian side will be submitted for approval by Brazilian President Dilme Rousseff, ”Kommersant writes.

          According to Kommersant’s information, General Di Nardi discussed the possibility of procuring the Pantsir-C1 air defense systems and Igla MANPADS with Valery Gerasimov, head of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, on January 23 in Moscow
          ps
          Sergey do not be offended, but sometimes it’s better to be silent :)
          if the deal burns out, then this is another step towards capturing the South American arms market.
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +4
            4 February 2013 13: 20
            Quote: toguns
            Sergey do not be offended, but sometimes it’s better to be silent


            I do not understand, Yaroslav, but why keep silent? And how do my thoughts differ from RIA Novosti ???

            Quote: toguns
            if the deal burns out, then this is another step towards capturing the South American arms market.


            And if you read carefully again. Yes, and even think about it? wink

            Before answering, I recommend visiting a market or a super market and wondering how much domestic meat is on the shelves, and how much .. Brazilian !!! wink

            Prefer GMOs ????? Well then ... good luck .. every blacksmith for his happiness, in the sense of ... health hi
            1. toguns
              +2
              4 February 2013 13: 40
              Quote: vaf

              I do not understand, Yaroslav, but why keep silent? And how do my thoughts differ from RIA Novosti ???

              all your thoughts are about exchanging "beef" (market access) for shells.
              Quote: vaf
              And if you read carefully again. Yes, and even think about it?

              Sergey and what to think ??? what's wrong with selling a patent for an armor ??
              Quote: vaf
              Before answering, I recommend visiting a market or a super market and wondering how much domestic meat is on the shelves, and how much .. Brazilian !!! wink
              Prefer GMOs ????? Well then ... good luck .. every blacksmith for his happiness, in the sense of ... health

              wassat in order not to eat GMOs, it was not necessary to ruin agriculture.
              and so you can believe about the market and the supermarket, but you can’t believe our local meat is much more than foreign (this is so about my area) tongue
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +4
                4 February 2013 17: 36
                Quote: toguns
                in order not to eat GMOs, it was not necessary to ruin agriculture.


                This is not for me .... but for EdRu, well, and ..bearing with them wassat

                Quote: toguns
                and so you can believe about the market and the supermarket, but you can’t believe our local meat is much more than foreign (this is so about my area)


                It has not yet reached you .. the WTO ... Russia then ... big crying
        2. +2
          4 February 2013 13: 19
          Hi buddy I will correct you - I spoke on the Shell

          they need access to our market - and Medvedev’s arrival for him to immediately sign (maybe) permission to import meat and this small contract

          1) nothing shines on the SU-35 fighter tender - too much loot swells Boeing, dasso, flu for promotion
          By the way, and there, under a contract, the purchase of 36 fighters with the subsequent construction of the plant and the transfer of all technology (this is obligatory)

          2) TORM2 is also being considered, but priority is still given to the Shell here 70 to 30 in favor of the impenetrable

          3) by the way Embraer KS-390 is a very good aircraft in the project there is a Boeing tied up

          4) By the way, according to the transfer, the French built a factory for the assembly of helicopters and for the Navy, boats will also be assembled in Brazil


          Yes, regarding Ukraine, I said earlier we will see what will happen, but I think there will be no cancellation of the contract and the plant will run into pressure and fulfill the contract


          in Brazil, the only one they do not require transfer is from the United States (except for aircraft)

          photo propaganda Brazilian army above helicopters EC-Eurocopter EC725 Cougar which are going to Brazil without this transfer a contract for 50 helicopters would be impossible
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +1
            4 February 2013 14: 14
            Quote: Rustam
            buddy I will correct you - I spoke on the Shell


            Hello bro! The amendment is accepted, but I focused on meat, and technology! wassat

            By the way, the last minute news is in American veal. Delivered to us. suddenly found ... growth hormones ...... a ban was imposed on the import of meat ...

            Long live the WTO or ... just the beginning wink
            1. +1
              4 February 2013 14: 23
              I said this, albeit in world reality, the Brazilian army is not ice with its incomprehensible purchases
              but for Latin America, the top three armies are

              I'm talking about how their transfer and purchase of Western models interfaced with the transfer of technology

              By the way, why Rafal has not won them yet, but because those source codes have paid off, for example, the flu is ready to give everything just to break the FX contract

              Here is another photo (a tour of the Brazilian army, so to speak)
              future embaer 390
      2. -1
        4 February 2013 17: 01
        A cant what? Technology is always delivered in exchange for the market. This is a common practice.
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +3
          4 February 2013 17: 38
          Quote: Geisenberg
          A cant what? Technology is always delivered in exchange for the market. This is a common practice.


          For us??????? request For the Russian Federation recourse ??

          Please sound out what technology they gave us in exchange for our market ???
          1. matvey.z
            +2
            4 February 2013 18: 22
            Quote: vaf
            What technologies have they transferred to us in exchange for our market ???

            Volga Automobile Plant
            uh
            Mistral (s) ???
            Note ONLY DO NOT SPIT PLIZZZ
            1. VAF
              VAF
              +2
              4 February 2013 19: 34
              Quote: matvey.z
              Mistral (s) ???


              I won’t, but so ... I want, honestly! wink

              And about the Volga car plant .. it's generally ... "song"! wassat
              1. matvey.z
                +1
                4 February 2013 19: 52
                Quote: vaf
                And about the Volga car plant ... it's generally ... "song"

                Yeah yeah.
                There (VAZ) were Italian typhoses, oh i.e. communists
                and the Mistral French, how to call them that (?), in general, everyone understands.
                Oh yes. forgot yet Hamaz wink (Kamaz, I mean)

                clone:
                International COF 220




                True integrated line (technology)
                Quote: vaf
                technology was transferred to us in exchange for our market
                -NO, NOT TRANSFERRED !!!
                Over 700 foreign companies took part in its equipment, including Swindell-Dresler, Holcroft, Sicast, Ingersoll Rand from America, Bush, Huller, Liebher from Germany, and Italian “Morando”, “Excella”, “Fata”, French “Renault”, Swedish “Sandvik”, Japanese “Kamatsu” and “Hitachi”.
                Well, it turned out ...... (for which they fought, there and ran)
                PS. I don't care either.
              2. Avenger711
                +2
                4 February 2013 23: 00
                And what is wrong? The whole country moved to FIAT.
      3. Gans72
        +6
        4 February 2013 17: 21
        While the complex is unique, you need to trade the complex itself, and not its technologies. IMHO
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +3
          4 February 2013 17: 40
          Quote: GANS72
          While the complex is unique, you need to trade the complex itself


          Alexander, +! good drinks
      4. Avenger711
        -2
        4 February 2013 22: 56
        What's so bad? The Brazilians do not bother us, but for the loot we will buy a coffee from them. smile
        1. Maxno
          -1
          4 February 2013 23: 07
          That's when - so right away.
        2. Gans72
          -1
          5 February 2013 01: 01
          Russia shares the Onyx / Bramos anti-ship missile technology with India (there are no analogues in the world), Russia raises the Hindu industry's aviation industry by designing a 5th generation fighter together, that is, it transfers technology to a country with which there are no allied agreements. . (exception England. has access to F-5 technologies without the right to trade them with other countries) Russia is raising the Indians' defense industry, and what kind of tender will they dynamically manage Russia?
  3. Akim
    0
    4 February 2013 09: 56
    This means that a hundred brand new BTR-4s will appear in the Ukrainian army. I didn't like this contract for a long time, especially when a third of the amount went to the intermediary. In fact, the plant worked for nothing. This is probably why there was such a rush "slow step". In this amount, they forgot to indicate 5 more An-32, which Ukraine has already supplied.
    1. Maxno
      -1
      4 February 2013 23: 08
      Or maybe 6 planes?
    2. Maxno
      -1
      4 February 2013 23: 30
      It’s also not clear - on the slipways of SZ Antonov - there are still An-32 (probably also Iraq)
  4. Igor
    +2
    4 February 2013 10: 40
    In Kazakhstan, there is also a scandal connected with these APCs, and 100 thousand green kazs slammed on a bribe. the general who oversaw the purchase of these cars and two lads from ukrspetseksporta.
    1. +4
      4 February 2013 11: 04
      Quote: Igorek

      In Kazakhstan, there is also a scandal connected with these APCs, and 100 thousand green kazs slammed on a bribe. the general who oversaw the purchase of these cars and two lads from ukrspetseksporta.

      The amount of the announced bribe was 200 thousand green. Ukrainians were detained at customs with 600 pieces before departure. And you can take out with us no more than 10 thousand greens without documents, but documents are needed from above.
      And there, with BTR-4, contracts were concluded there at a higher level; this is not Asenov’s level.
      There are other versions ...
  5. +2
    4 February 2013 10: 47
    All this seething shit began after the stuffing on the ZhZhshniy blog, you actually out of nothing. Still, the power of Tyrnet and LiveJournal is great to the heap. A group of enthusiasts analyzed a similar last "throw-in" regarding the tank rating, where the BM Oplot was named the best tank of all times and peoples, and the T-90 was pushed into the middle of the list next to a Pakistani, a Korean and a Pole. Not modestly somehow happened. An answer came. wassat
    1. Avenger711
      -1
      4 February 2013 23: 03
      Fat too trolling. And about that nonsense for a long time no one remembers.
      1. Maxno
        -2
        4 February 2013 23: 12
        You would be easier for the Russians - everyone will make fun of you. - According to merit. )
    2. Maxno
      0
      4 February 2013 23: 10
      Quote: Aeneas
      The answer came.

      - This is not an answer, it is a shame. And the actions are completely purposeful - the next cry is nobody and nothing, and this is great - this is their weakness.
  6. +6
    4 February 2013 10: 55
    And even more than that, the Iraqi military department, referring to the fact that the contract has expired, announced in the fall of 2012 that it intends to initiate negotiations with Russia and South Korea regarding the supply of similar armored vehicles.



    And in the list of article sources

    Materials used:
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/447999.html
    http://gazeta.zn.ua/POLITICS/bagdadskie_vorishki.html
    1. matvey.z
      +1
      4 February 2013 18: 29
      Quote: Kars
      And in the list of article sources

      .ndaaaa. but I did not pay attention.
      HZ what is it in reality.
      1.Here everything is ok
      http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/ukraine-iraq-in-25-bn-weapons-deal-06016/
      2.Here terminated (after receiving 26 and ready 62 refused to accept due to technical defects):
      http://www.investorsiraq.com/showthread.php?172518-After-losing-90-million-Iraq-
      Ukrainian-armor-package-abolition
      3. and here about modmazki Yuya = Yanukovych and about "US ears"
    2. +1
      8 February 2013 00: 11
      On February 7, representatives of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Iraq and the DC "Ukrspetseksport" signed a certificate of acceptance of the BTR-4 Ukrainian party at the 40th unit in Kiev.
      “Vibration buly conducted successfully. There are no serious problems of the day. We are satisfied with the process of cooperation with the Ukrainian side. In Iraq, the BTR-4 of the Ukrainian broadcasting system was previously handed over to the most prominent Polish minds. The price is new, the machine for the Iraqi army has been put in, ”having voted by the official representative of the Iraqi delegation.
      At the recreation center "Ukroboronprom" voted, schow satisfied with an achievable result. “I’m independent on a significantly higher number of buyers of the Iraqi side (the leather machine was being turned over for a special program), the machine was transferred without any respect. Mi i nadalі will be able to conquer the contract more than once to reach their domicile. On top of the head contracts д creation of a separate service for the service for servicing the transfer of the сторон сторон сторон сторон сторон сторон »» »наг» »- - наг - Voted in DC" Ukroboronprom ".
  7. - = ALEX = -
    +9
    4 February 2013 11: 33
    The state company "Ukrspetsexport" is not surprised by the increased attention of individual Russian bloggers to the progress of Ukraine's implementation of a large-scale contract for the supply of new Ukrainian armored vehicles to Iraq, a source in the state company told Interfax-Ukraine.

    "Considering that the blogosphere, according to numerous experts, is an advanced component of the modern information space, one should not be surprised, but welcome the attention of those bloggers, in this case Russian ones, who, with increased attention, are tracking such issues of little interest to a wide Internet audience as the implementation a contract for the supply of military equipment to a foreign customer, "he said.

    Referring to the progress of the implementation of the Iraqi contract, the agency's interlocutor said: "I can only confirm the information announced earlier by the Iraqi side: military-technical cooperation between Ukraine and Iraq is developing, problematic issues in the implementation of the contract by the parties have been removed."

    As reported, in 2009 Ukraine signed a large-scale contract worth over $ 550 million for the supply of military equipment, and in particular, 6 multi-purpose An-32 and 420 units. BTR-4, to Iraq.

    The delivery of aircraft to the customer was completed in 2012. The first batch of BTR-4 consisting of 26 units. delivered to Iraq in the spring of 2011, the second batch of 62 units. - in the fall of 2012. The delivery of the third batch of Ukrainian armored vehicles to the Iraqi customer is expected in the near future.

    As the Iraqi ambassador to Ukraine Shorsh Khalid Said told the agency earlier, Baghdad and Kiev are preparing to sign an intergovernmental agreement on military-technical cooperation between Ukraine and Iraq.
    1. Skavron
      +1
      4 February 2013 12: 23
      Q.E.D. It's just that people DO NOT read official sources, but read blogs ...)))
    2. -1
      4 February 2013 17: 05
      It is strange that the state-owned company of Ukraine takes into account me some sort of Russian bloggers ... I think they should use drugs and do the execution of contracts;)
      1. Skavron
        +1
        4 February 2013 20: 48
        What the fuck are state-owned companies? I'm talking about journalists and commentators, as it were.
    3. Avenger711
      0
      5 February 2013 01: 04
      Ukraine at a loss pays a forfeit and patches armored personnel carriers on its own money. Questions are removed, yes. Indeed, it is better not to raise them so as not to disgrace.
  8. +2
    4 February 2013 16: 54
    It is not enough to design an armored personnel carrier, you also need to have the technology for its production. And "technology" is not just the ability to make armor, suspension, and so on. This is the ability to quickly, efficiently and with minimal cost to produce on the stream. On this we stumbled ...
  9. Horde
    -2
    4 February 2013 19: 50
    He initiated the removal of intermediaries from whose work Ukraine was able to sign a contract with Iraq. In addition, they were given the condition - to give three quarters of what was earned under the contract. It is clear that the intermediaries refused. Then offshore structures were introduced into the financial scheme, which had nothing to do with this contract, which, in fact, threatened to disrupt the multi-million dollar contract.

    But, experts say, the management of Ukrspetsexport did not take into account one feature of the arms market - all large-scale contracts are concluded exclusively with the help of intermediaries trusted by both the buyer and seller. It’s clear that when the Ukrainian side refused to play by such simple rules,

    Salamatin is just fine! Why should the INTERMEDIARIES dictate the terms of transactions? Trade SHOULD be directly the MANUFACTURER-PURCHASER and all sorts of intermediate instances, which are different BANKS, clearly led by someone - these are PARASITES, which only unjustifiably inflate prices.
    1. Gans72
      0
      5 February 2013 13: 18
      The intermediary scooped up the loot. From what was left, part went to cover the costs of production costs (salaries for people, the purchase of components, etc.), the rest of the money went up. The profit of the plant is 0. The funds for development are 0. That's what it was intended to do. gas is the same garbage. Can Gazprom trade with UkrNafta directly? Maybe, but it doesn’t trade. There are at least 2 intermediaries for both companies. Just every official wants a new Mercedes and rest with me in the Canaries. And the people pay for it. Democracy
  10. The fence
    +3
    4 February 2013 20: 19
    It is necessary to finish faster with Iraq the armored personnel carrier disassembly and all the forces on the "new" Kharkov T-64E http://otvaga2004.ru/tanki/tanki-modern/t-64e-reinkarnaciya/ good for your army. Why what and the T-64 in Ukraine "to ho-ho" Well, about the BTR-4MV http://vpk-news.ru/articles/14217 not forget. As about BMPT-64 http://army-news.ru/2012/02/novaya-ukrainskaya-bmpt-64/ instead of the old canning BMP-1 and BMP-2. Although it is still that dream.
    1. Avenger711
      -2
      4 February 2013 23: 03
      Humble yourself, Ukraine has long been unable to produce armored vehicles.
      1. The fence
        0
        5 February 2013 01: 56
        Read carefully and look at the links! Ukraine can and still how can, it is a pity for money rulers-monsters "squeeze".
  11. sf43erdfhh
    0
    4 February 2013 22: 01
    Imagine, it turns out that our authorities have complete information about each of us. And now she has appeared on the Internet woot.tw/dzxw. I was very surprised and scared
    my correspondence, addresses, phone numbers, even found my nude photo, I can’t even imagine from where. The good news is that the data can be deleted from the site, of course, I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate
  12. Maxno
    +1
    4 February 2013 22: 16
    Acceptance of the third batch is in progress, shipping by the end of the month, the stage of deepening the military-technical cooperation is approaching.
    - Congratulations to all Ukrainians!
  13. Maxno
    -1
    4 February 2013 22: 48
    The main intrigue is whether Iraqis will take the best tank in the world BM Oplot? ...
  14. Felix200970
    +1
    4 February 2013 22: 50
    Our Pisnya Garna nova, we are repairing the new way. It is somehow strange that the topic has been raised for the fourth time in the last 2 months. There is a feeling that the Ukrainian side has fulfilled its obligations in full and continues to develop cooperation. And for some, this process is completely wrong recourse
    1. Maxno
      0
      4 February 2013 23: 00
      So it is, which means that everything is fine with the contract !!!
      - And this is a pseudo-hype - shit dumping of some weak bastards. This is good, because then after this hype, the dependents will have a loser sediment.
      1. Avenger711
        +3
        4 February 2013 23: 53
        Do you understand that something is wrong with your head? This contract should have been handed over a long time ago. And if it were handed over, the manufacturer would have known about this a long time ago, it’s enough to recall how many photos of new equipment alone went to the network when Russian plants completed something. But the manufacturer has nothing to say, so he is silent, escaping with general phrases. At my factory, the same boobies did the accounting system, they did 7-8 years. Constantly the deadlines were broken, obviously someone was given a paw to be kept here, as a result they didn’t do anything and just evaporated. So nothing out of the ordinary.
        1. +2
          5 February 2013 00: 00
          Do you need it, answer such posts? It’s just someone trolling. Do not fool around.
          1. Maxno
            0
            5 February 2013 00: 36
            Lopatov,
            - Definitely, and this is not a secret - Khlopotov and CAST.
            1. Avenger711
              -2
              5 February 2013 01: 02
              Severe paranoia, however.
              1. Maxno
                -1
                5 February 2013 01: 37
                Yah? - Here he is author:
                http://mil.in.ua/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=844&start=100
                - He came to ridicule.
        2. Maxno
          0
          5 February 2013 00: 36
          Avenger711,
          - I am culturally speaking - I doubt very much that you are privy to his secrets. )
          1. Avenger711
            -1
            5 February 2013 01: 03
            I do not care about secrets, the main thing is that the supplier did not joyfully report, but only mumbles something. No need to rush into the open door while inventing something.
            1. Maxno
              0
              5 February 2013 01: 38
              Quote: Avenger711
              No need to rush into the open door while inventing something.

              lol
    2. Avenger711
      -1
      4 February 2013 23: 46
      And in my opinion the first. More precisely, it popped up periodically, this can drag on for several years.