Possibility and reluctance: sending European troops to Ukraine

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Possibility and reluctance: sending European troops to Ukraine
French army exercises using armored vehicles. Photo by the French Ministry of Defense


NATO countries continue to look for ways to support the Kyiv regime and counter Russia’s successful actions within the framework of the current Special Operation. The other day it became known that the leaders of European states discussed the possibility of sending their troops to Ukraine. However, the first statements on this topic were immediately followed by various comments and reservations, indicating a reluctance to take such measures. Apparently, European governments still retain the ability to soberly assess their capabilities and negative consequences.



France's position


The other day, another international conference on supporting the Kyiv regime was held in Paris. Presidents and prime ministers of more than two dozen countries discussed possible ways to help Ukraine and counter Russia. Following the event, a number of statements were made, and some of them attracted special attention due to their excessive boldness.

Thus, on February 26, French President Emmanuel Macron said that during the event the possibility of sending foreign troops to Ukraine was discussed. The sending of limited contingents of ground forces from different countries was considered. A decision of this kind was not made, and it was not possible to achieve a consensus on this matter.

However, according to E. Macron, the situation may change over time. At the same time, the French president noted that all conference participants consider it necessary to do everything possible to counter Russia and prevent its victory.

The next day, French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal commented on the president's words. On the air of one of the radio stations, he confirmed his position on the issue of a possible victory for Russia in the current conflict, and also pointed out the existence of scenarios in which France would have to send its troops to Ukraine.

On February 28, G. Attal spoke in the French Senate and added to his previous words. He believes that French troops could go to Ukraine to train local militants, provide air defense or protect borders. At the same time, the Prime Minister recalled that E. Macron did not announce any actions, but simply described possible scenarios.


Polish soldiers at the training ground. Photo of the Polish Ministry of Defense

E. Macron's statements were also complemented by Foreign Minister Stéphane Sejournet. He indicated that France must develop new actions and activities that respond to the current state of affairs and its development. Some of them require the presence of foreign personnel on the territory of Ukraine. At the same time, sending specialists does not provide for their direct participation in hostilities. However, the head of the Foreign Ministry did not rule out the fundamental possibility of changing this situation.

Obvious reaction


Statements by the French leadership about the possibility of sending troops to Ukraine predictably attracted attention and caused an appropriate reaction. First of all, this idea was criticized in France itself. Also, the governments of European states, which may be drawn into the adventure of sending troops, hastened to comment on the situation.

Inside France, the very possibility of deploying troops in Ukraine was criticized by almost all opposition parties. Such ideas were condemned by the socialists Olivier Faure, Marine Le Pen’s National Rally, Jean-Luc Mélenchon’s “Unruly France,” etc. Their position is supported by part of the media and the population.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg personally commented on E. Macron’s words. He indicated that the Alliance has no plans to send its ground forces to Ukraine. They are going to support the Kyiv regime using other methods.

Similar statements were also made by the leaders of Germany, the Czech Republic, Poland, Sweden, Italy and other countries. All of them indicated their readiness and intention to continue helping the Kyiv regime using various methods, but without sending their troops. This is explained both by the peculiarities of existing support plans and by the reluctance to enter into direct military confrontation with Russia.


British grenade launcher during training. Photo by UK Ministry of Defense

Moscow also paid attention to the bold statements of the head of France. Thus, the press secretary of the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, recalled that the appearance of foreign troops in Ukraine will lead to the outbreak of a military conflict between Russia and NATO. In this regard, he recommended that foreign governments consider whether such a scenario is in their interests.

Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Dmitry Medvedev also revealed his opinion on the current situation. In his recognizable manner, he accused the French leadership of wanting revenge for the defeats of two centuries ago, and also noted the processes of degradation of the Western elites.

Foreign participation


Thus, the European partners of the Kyiv regime are not yet planning to send full-fledged groups of their ground forces to Ukrainian territory and are in every possible way denying this. However, the presence and work of militants and military specialists from third countries in Ukraine has long been well known. They solve different problems, and their activities are organized in such a way as not to lead the situation to an open confrontation with Russia.

The Kiev regime has long practiced recruiting mercenaries to serve in line units. Since the beginning of 2022, the flow of foreign fighters seeking to enlist has gradually increased. At the same time, the states from which the mercenaries come speak about their personal initiative and deny their role in their appearance in Ukraine.


French tank crews and infantry are learning to work in urban conditions. Photo by the French Ministry of Defense

Mass supplies of foreign-made weapons and military equipment are accompanied by foreign specialists. Representatives of partner armies work in Ukraine and are responsible for training local fighters or operating equipment. In addition, the participation of foreign crews and crews in hostilities has been repeatedly reported. However, usually we are talking about mercenaries, and not about professional military personnel from third countries.

The Western press is already reporting on the secret presence of foreign military personnel in Ukraine. Thus, the other day the Financial Times newspaper, citing a high-ranking official from Europe, wrote about the presence of some European special forces on Ukrainian territory. According to him, everyone knows about this, but they officially prefer not to talk about it in order to maintain an acceptable military-political situation and to avoid negative consequences.

Military potential


E. Macron indicated that European countries are not going to send a full-fledged contingent to Ukraine, but did not rule out a change in the situation in the future. In this regard, questions arise about what kind of groups the partner countries of the Kyiv regime can assemble and transfer, where and what tasks they will solve, and what Russia will do in this case.

The total size of the armed forces of Europe and NATO looks impressive at first glance - a total of several million people, thousands tanks and combat vehicles, hundreds of aircraft, etc. However, it is clear that the hypothetical contingent in Ukraine will be several times or tens of times smaller. In addition, it should be taken into account that assistance to the Kyiv regime over the past two years has significantly depleted the reserves and parks of European armies.

Depending on the tasks assigned, they can get by with thousands or tens of thousands of military personnel with the appropriate amount of equipment. This will be enough to control some territories, such as Western Ukraine, which is claimed by its closest neighbors.


The Stormer HVM air defense system of the British army - such equipment was previously transferred to Ukraine. Photo by UK Ministry of Defense

The presence of additional forces in Ukraine will seriously change the situation and create corresponding risks. At the same time, an attempt by a foreign contingent to begin military operations against the Russian army will lead to understandable and predictable consequences. The European contingent will have to deal with a larger, better-equipped and more effective group of Russian troops, which has already shown its ability to fight formations rebuilt and armed on a foreign model.

In addition, as politicians and experts have repeatedly noted, it will be a clash between Russia and NATO with a great risk of escalation and serious threats to foreign states. Depending on the development of events, even the use of strategic weapons cannot be ruled out. Whether Europe is ready for such a development of events is a big question.

Discussion without result


In general, the situation surrounding the recent discussions and statements of the French president looks quite simple. During the next international event, the authorities of two dozen states discussed possible and hypothetical ways to support the Kyiv regime, including direct participation in hostilities. Unlike all other options, sending their troops with all the attendant risks did not suit them - which they hastened to inform the public about.

It can be assumed that in the current circumstances and conditions, NATO and Europe do not want and cannot participate in hostilities. A change in the situation in the future is not excluded, but is still considered undesirable. At the same time, the absence of plans to send troops does not imply a refusal to help in other ways - money, information and material.

If foreign states do not send their troops to Ukraine, then the demilitarization of the Kyiv regime will continue to take its course without additional threats and risks. At the same time, Kyiv’s foreign patrons will spend money and materiel, weakening their economies and armies. And every step in this direction will make both the sending of troops and a possible escalation in Europe less likely.

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  1. +1
    29 February 2024 04: 48
    Macron said that during the event the possibility of sending foreign troops to Ukraine was discussed.
    There will be a dispatch of troops or not, but it created a decent wave! what
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 06: 21
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      There will be a dispatch of troops or not, but it created a decent wave!

      If we consider that Macron and Scholz act hand in hand on the issue of containing Russia’s VICTORY during the North Military District over the Kyiv Nazi junta in Ukraine, then Russia's denunciation of the 1990 treaty on the unification of Germany, which has already been approved by the Federation Council of the Russian Federation and will be passed through the State Duma of Russia, should be considered very timely.
      This means the ILLEGALITY of the absorption of the GDR by the Federal Republic of Germany and requires the restoration of the GDR as an independent German state.
      REASON - the use of weapons against Russia, as the successor of the USSR, contrary to the Treaty,

      This Treaty "On the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany" dated 12 September 1990, entered into force in March 1991, known as “Two plus four”: the GDR and the Federal Republic of Germany plus the USSR, France, Great Britain and the USA.

      REFERENCE
      The Agreement has key provisions:
      Art. 2. A united Germany will never use the weapons it has.

      Art.3. Refusal from the production, possession and disposal of nuclear, chemical and bacteriological weapons.


      Art. 5. On the territory of the former GDR, from where Soviet troops will be withdrawn, only German forces will be stationed, and foreign forces and nuclear weapons will not be located there.

      Art. 7 of this treaty assumed that after the unification of the GDR and the Federal Republic of Germany, the renewed Germany would be a completely sovereign state and independent of external pressures.[/b] However, Germany did not become sovereign primarily from the United States.

      As of today, none of the articles work - all are violated.

      Russia has long endured the antics of the collective West. They thought that Moscow had forgotten about this treaty, Germany especially hoped for this.

      TOTAL This treaty on the unification of Germany is indeed subject to legislative denunciation by Russia, after which current Germany in its united form will legally cease to exist!
      1. +3
        29 February 2024 06: 47
        This means the ILLEGALITY of the absorption of the GDR by the Federal Republic of Germany and requires the restoration of the GDR as an independent German state


        It seems that it is useless to deal with such a forum member; he does not understand the simplest things. Well, it’s impossible to take away an already integrated part of Germany with a piece of legislation.
        You still try to understand that a piece of paper has no power on its own, a piece of paper records the result of the war. The GDR can be created only and exclusively through war, there is no other way.
        No matter what illegalities you write, they don’t care.
        1. -3
          29 February 2024 07: 18
          Quote: nickname7
          No matter what illegalities you write, they don’t care.

          You probably think that in the Russian Federation Council there are only fools sitting on chairs, since they officially denounce this treaty on the unification of Germany?

          This will be followed by a LEGAL expansion of Russia's powers both politically and militarily over Germany.
          And this is a very COMPLETE warning from Russia to the entire West!
          If the West so wants war with Russia, then they will get it in their own home, no matter what it is - political, economic, financial, military!

          What's wrong with that?! Everything was done RIGHT!
          And you personally propose that Russia continue to cowardly sit on its butt and do nothing against its enemies in the West on the political and legal front!

          See in detail - “The Federation Council supported the denunciation of the 1990 treaty, after which Europe will shudder, and current Germany will legally cease to exist” dated February 25, 2024 -
          https://dzen.ru/a/Zdt5M_uY-mqVaWmm
          1. +2
            29 February 2024 07: 32
            LEGAL expansion of Russia's powers both politically and militarily over Germany

            Such phenomena as legal extensions to another sovereign state do not exist in nature. Germany, as a sovereign state, doesn’t really care about other people’s laws. How can you not understand this? Maybe you can turn the earth's axis by law?
            The same GDR was taken by military means, depriving them of sovereignty and keeping troops only after that the GDR began to obey our laws. Gorbachev withdrew his troops and immediately our laws don’t work there.
            The law can be implemented if the troops are stationed in the GDR, but the US has troops in Germany and dictate their will to them.
            1. -3
              29 February 2024 07: 51
              You still don't understand anything!
              Russia's denunciation of this treaty will delegitimize the current powers that be in Germany: Scholz, Berbock and others like them! And so on all international issues!

              This is essentially a coup d'etat in Germany - the removal of these people from power!
              This is what the aggressive West itself is striving for in Russia itself to remove Putin from power!

              At the same time, all these Russophobes-Nazis: Scholz, Berbock, Ursula von der Leyen - become, in international jurisdiction, essentially PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS against whom Russia can initiate criminal cases, putting them on the international wanted list. With all the corresponding conclusions in the world TREATY policy for other countries.
              1. +3
                29 February 2024 08: 28
                Russia's denunciation of this treaty will delegitimize the current powers that be in Germany: Scholz, Bärbock

                Rave. The powers that be in Germany are under the jurisdiction of the Federal Republic and the EU, and the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation does not apply to them. Any denunciations are just pieces of paper that will be wiped with.

                This is essentially a coup in Germany - the removal of these people from power

                Only the people of Germany can remove them from power. Or parliament. Or the US can remove its puppets. Or we need to create an orange revolution. Either it is necessary bring in troops and impose will.

                Scholz, Berbock, Ursula von der Leyen - become essentially PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS in international jurisdiction

                The wildest nonsense. You are ignorant of law. Scholz, Bärbock, Ursula von der Leyen were appointed within the EU and can be removed there. They cannot be removed from the Russian Federation. What to do as in 1945 - bring in troops.
                Are you by any chance the Tatyana from the world crisis who has the professional deformation of an astrologer? This in astrologers becomes in itself in reality, but the will of the sovereign is imposed by force.
              2. +1
                29 February 2024 08: 42
                Maybe you will remove Biden from office by decree of the Russian government?
                1. 0
                  29 February 2024 09: 19
                  Quote: nickname7
                  Maybe you will remove Biden from office by decree of the Russian government?

                  Now, if I write honestly what I, in turn, think about you, then you yourself will be offended at me for telling the truth about you!
                  Don't write me any more of your nonsense!

                  And so all your complaints against me are your complaints against the Federation Council of Russia itself and its decisions!
                  It seems that you fundamentally disagree with this decision of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation!

                  I’m just curious, from what country are you writing all this to me here?
                  1. +3
                    29 February 2024 09: 31
                    This is essentially a coup d'etat in Germany - the removal of these people from power!

                    It’s your idea to fire Scholz, Berbock, and Ursula von der Leyen from her job with the help of a denunciation. Take your idea further, denounce NATO, fire Macron and dissolve the US.
                    1. -2
                      29 February 2024 09: 45
                      Quote: nickname7
                      It’s your idea, with the help of the denunciation of Scholz, Berbock, Ursula von der Leyen to FIRED from her job.

                      And from what country are you writing me this nonsense about “FIRED FROM JOB”?!
                      We are talking about the illegitimacy of the entire government of modern Germany in the event of the cancellation of the Treaty of German Unification.
                      Why do you narrow the problem in this matter to the personalities I named as an example?

                      At the same time, the Germans themselves will decide whether or not to eliminate this German government and how to do it.

                      What don’t you understand here? Everything is elementary simple!
                      1. 0
                        29 February 2024 22: 03
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        What don’t you understand here? Everything is elementary simple!

                        Explain for fools
                        Something will be considered illegitimate in Russia - for example, Germany.
                        Maybe Somalia will agree with this.
                        Iran considers Israel illegitimate.
                        In Africa, 2/3 of the states consider each other illegitimate.
                        AND?...
                      2. -1
                        1 March 2024 04: 29
                        Quote from tsvetahaki
                        Something will be considered illegitimate in Russia - for example, Germany.
                        Yes of course it will!
                        This is exactly what this is all about - i.e. to the fact that the entire Scholz government, together with Ursula von der Leyen, nicknamed “MAD GERMAN”, will be recognized by Russia as illegitimate along with the existing German state. With all the ensuing consequences!
                        At the same time, Russia is losing absolutely nothing, because thanks to the childless Scholz (grandson of a high-ranking Nazi officer during the Second World War) and the ruling pro-American Green party in the person of Annalena Berbock, as well as thanks to the “mad German” Ursula von der Leyen in Brussels, Russia has already lost everything that could have been lost illegally on the part of Germany.
                        And then, under the leadership of the Scholz government in Germany, the Germans are prepared by Washington/Pentagon only for a HOT proxy war between the United States and Russia and with the Russian people, the German “cannon fodder”!
                        Unless ordinary Germans themselves understand this in a TIMELY manner - to what next historical CATASTROPHE Washington's "Soros" proteges in the Scholz government in Germany, together with Ursuliha von der Leyen in the EU, who has a "roof" in Washington, have moved their lives and Germany itself and will not allow further prerequisites for its implementation!

                        That is, until ordinary Germans clearly understand that thanks to the corrupt pro-American-globalist, Russophobic-Nazi government in the country,
                        Scholz's government does not take into account the national interests of the Germans themselves and their Germany, and if they do not eliminate it, a NATIONAL DISASTER awaits them!
                        Russia is doing everything RIGHT, helping the Germans themselves to realize all this and draw SOVEREIGNLY CORRECT conclusions for themselves and take ADEQUATE actions in relation to their corrupt government in a timely manner!
                      3. 0
                        1 March 2024 04: 56
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        That is, until ordinary Germans clearly understand that thanks to the corrupt pro-American-globalist, Russophobic-Nazi government in the country,
                        Scholz's government does not take into account the national interests of the Germans themselves and their Germany, and if they do not eliminate it, a NATIONAL DISASTER awaits them!

                        In general, let's summarize point by point.
                        1. If Russia or Zimbabwe recognize something as illegitimate, they don’t care.
                        2. Pressure can only be exerted through military means, and not through pieces of paper - even with red lines.
                        3. Someone in Germany, the great ISIS (an organization banned at times), etc. must realize that “a NATIONAL CATastrophe awaits them” - then there will be hurray in Germany, the end of the war in Syria or Afghanistan and women will be allowed to study.
                        4. An unanswered and unvoiced question - does Russia want to lose everything by ensuring a “national catastrophe” for Germany through military means?

                        The whole world is in ruin!
                      4. -1
                        1 March 2024 05: 11
                        Quote from tsvetahaki
                        1. If Russia or Zimbabwe recognize something as illegitimate, they don’t care.
                        Who is “them”? Ordinary Germans or “Soros” - officials in power in the country as pro-American proteges of Washington in power in Germany?
                        Quote from tsvetahaki
                        2. Pressure can only be exerted through military means, and not through pieces of paper - even with red lines.
                        You are mistaken! The war of the West with Russia and the Russians is generally HYBRID and for nowLOCAL armed character!
                        Quote from tsvetahaki
                        3. Someone in Germany, the great ISIS (an organization banned at times), etc. must realize that “a NATIONAL CATastrophe awaits them” - then there will be hurray in Germany, the end of the war in Syria or Afghanistan and women will be allowed to study.
                        These and their problems do not count at all for the Germans yet. Because for the Germans their own shirt is closer to the body!
                        Quote from tsvetahaki
                        4. An unanswered and unvoiced question - does Russia want to lose everything by ensuring a “national catastrophe” for Germany through military means?
                        Russia does not protect the Germans, like Gorbachev and Yeltsin, but thinks about its own security! However, the national catastrophe of the Germans and the national catastrophe of Russia are interconnected!
                      5. 0
                        1 March 2024 05: 25
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Russia does not protect the Germans, like Gorbachev and Yeltsin, but thinks about its own security! However, the national catastrophe of the Germans and the national catastrophe of Russia are interconnected!
                        I will add that one catastrophe cannot be solved without solving another catastrophe! So Russia is forced to solve them to the best of its ability!
                        So don't laugh at the "red lines"! Not everything is as simple as it seems from the outside.
          2. +1
            1 March 2024 19: 24
            But it would not be easier for the representative of the Russian Federation, from any international platform, for example, the UN, to make a statement that the Russian Federation considers the neutral airspace over the Black Sea, close to its own, to be a combat zone and to warn that military aircraft, regardless of their affiliation, will be destroyed. And to bring to the attention that the armed forces of the Russian Federation have carried out technical tests and deployment of new systems such as "Sarmat" and "Poseidon", to complete the full cycle, only combat use tests remain, which can be immediately carried out on the territories of countries that will continue their threats against the Russian Federation . I think after one demonstrably shot down spy drone, sobering will come.
      2. 0
        29 February 2024 11: 47
        The current government will not agree to this. They are the direct heirs of the affairs of the “tagged EBN”. Now, the situation has simply driven them into a corner, but they will not abandon the international liberal course
      3. 0
        29 February 2024 14: 53
        Russia's denunciation of the 1990 treaty on the unification of Germany, which has already been approved by the Federation Council of the Russian Federation and will be passed through the State Duma of Russia, should be considered very timely.

        No denunciation is provided for in the treaty, so this will not have any legal consequences. The agreement came into force a long time ago, on March 15, 1991. Moreover, the treaty is not bilateral, it is multilateral, so its denunciation is in principle impossible.
        Article 9

        Real The agreement comes into force for a united Germany, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the United States of America, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the French Republic on the day of deposit by those States of their last instrument of ratification or acceptance.
  2. -3
    29 February 2024 05: 28
    Thus, the press secretary of the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, recalled that the appearance of foreign troops in Ukraine will lead to the outbreak of a military conflict between Russia and NATO. In this regard, he recommended


    1.-first the monuments to Ustinov and Grechko, 2.then demography and restoration of the land. Based on rural population.
    3. expel supporters of peaceful coexistence from the Foreign Ministry and other offices and pursue a clear course: pay for everything in full.
    4. it will turn out to be a different Russia.
    Who needs that country? - It’s not possible to build yachts worth a billion until the issues with orphanages are resolved. And roads to villages. And salaries for teachers.
    How about meditating in Bali? Who will force people from Moscow State University to go to the Urupinsky district to teach and treat (not a paradise center, but a village)?


    and there will be no thoughts of confrontation with Russia. Not like war or checking weapons on Russians
  3. -2
    29 February 2024 05: 32
    They chose Ukraine... because these... rods are pumped up with drugs... the establishment of these countries is deep... how many will die there... It was not for nothing that they said the great phrase... "Until the last Ukrainian." Let me add to the meaning... so that at least half of the Russians... do not take losses into account... When you touch them... they start screaming. Go... Whoever comes to Russia... will lie down there... it has been proven for centuries! Your Western bones... the Germans, the French, the English... The mice injected themselves, cried, but continued to eat the cactus! Will we meet porridge with butter here? How tired we are of our government and the Tsar...Napoleon, Hitler, etc. Hinderburg was mistaken... it was precisely that power, the Soviets... that broke the back of fascism. Yes, at the cost of sacrifice. You can't understand Russia with your mind! And we stand for centuries!
    Only our soldiers do not surrender and go to the embrasures... I remember a conscript boy in January 2000, when he made his way to the squad... he held the rgo in his hands... managed to throw it away... he had a concussion and shrapnel... confused us with the Vovchiks... pulled us out... The boy... then hit him on the cheeks... you're alive... that's it... that's it... it's all over... and he burst into tears on my shoulders... It’s a pity that the medicine rejected him later... Wild stress... there were a lot of stores near him and clips of 15s were scattered. And the corpses... killed 4 Vovchiks. I personally wrote a proposal for Muzhik... The only one who survived from the department. 18 years old boy.
  4. -1
    29 February 2024 05: 40
    They will not send any troops to Durkaina. Their goal is to wear down Russia with the hands of big skaklofts
  5. +2
    29 February 2024 06: 01
    In Europe, they are well aware that the flow of zinc coffins will not add to the popularity of governments among voters, and Macron, unlike Zelensky, will not cancel the elections, simply because he does not have the right. So if anyone sends troops, it will be the Psheks, Hungarians, and Romanians, and then only within their (well, or those that they consider their) historical territories.
    1. 0
      3 March 2024 23: 22
      Quote: Nagan
      So if anyone sends troops, it will be the Psheks, Hungarians, and Romanians, and then only within their (well, or those that they consider their) historical territories.

      They will first ask Russia for permission.
  6. +1
    29 February 2024 06: 30
    . The Western press is already reporting on the secret presence of foreign military personnel in Ukraine.

    The Western military is already there. Their vacationers are only called differently. Mercenaries, tens of thousands of them. And perhaps now they want to further expand their military presence. Therefore, I would not take the Frenchman’s words lightly. And if we look back at history, after the Russian Company of 1812, which was devastating for them, there was the Crimean War, which was not very successful for us, where the same Euro team “hodgepodge” emerged. Including the French.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 15: 48
      Quote: Stas157
      And perhaps now they want to further expand their military presence.

      They want to show off, as the bandits say. Like yesterday it flew in to the mercenaries’ favor, and tomorrow it will fly to the barracks with the French contingent and there will be a scandal and indignation. And either our authorities will laugh and say that it is a great honor for Europeans to pour their blood on the tree of democracy, or they will be afraid that they will immediately confiscate the villas on the Cote d'Azur and give them back, hand over something else to improve the negotiating position. Knowing our people, I would bet more on the second
    2. 0
      3 March 2024 23: 24
      Quote: Stas157
      Mercenaries, tens of thousands of them.

      Are you seriously? How many tens of thousands?
      Half of the Poles have already been taken home...
      And there were no more such fools in the EU.
  7. +2
    29 February 2024 08: 09
    I think it's much ado about nothing.

    Most likely, all possible methods of countering Russia were discussed, including the use of armed forces contingents, which is natural, since the method is effective. Also naturally, this question was rejected - since it is expensive, unpredictable and, perhaps, premature (Russia does not voice such a goal as the destruction of Ukraine, the words of LADIES should not be taken into account).

    Well, this is also a signal - they don’t do it yet, but if we go too far, they might change their minds.

    Now, “let’s go too far” is too far away.
  8. +1
    29 February 2024 10: 43
    They can send troops into some enclave, release troops 404 from this territory, introduce a no-fly zone there, place logistics and training there, etc. Formally, not fighting with us, but freeing up 404’s hands from guarding the territory.
  9. +1
    29 February 2024 12: 54
    This was an attempt to scare us and see what would happen. First of all, the states bordering Ukraine will be interested in sending troops, for obvious reasons. Perhaps Macron also inspired this discussion to test their sentiments, because some kind of “limited peacekeeping contingent” ensuring a no-fly zone in the rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces would be a completely logical continuation of the current European line if the situation worsens.
  10. 0
    3 March 2024 16: 13
    no need to be deceived: they have already sent and will continue to send
    the question is now being resolved on a different plane - whether it is worth recognizing semi/officially or not