The question of the use of tactical nuclear weapons

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The question of the use of tactical nuclear weapons

The first official confirmation of the existence of plans to use tactical nuclear weapons in a local conflict dates back to 2017. The source of information of this nature was the document “On approval of the Fundamentals of State Policy of the Russian Federation in the field of naval activities for the period until 2030.”

“In the event of an escalation of a military conflict, a demonstration of readiness and determination to use force using non-strategic nuclear weapons is an effective deterrent."
(Paragraph No. 37)

One can argue about the true meaning of the words in “paragraph 37,” but real action is necessary for the concept to work.



The West has become too relaxed and accustomed to the fact that, in classical concepts, nuclear weapons are limited to the function of a “ceremonial sword.” With this sword you can draw “red lines”. But, as the practice of the Northern Military District shows, such measures are not enough. Statements about putting nuclear forces on high alert did not affect the level of involvement of the sponsors of the Ukrainian regime in the conflict.

Every time strikes by Western-made long-range missiles raise a reasonable question in society - isn’t it time to respond?

As a worthy response, there are proposals for the one-time use of non-strategic nuclear weapons. A demonstrative strike with nuclear weapons on a selected target of the Kyiv regime would allow achieving all the set military and political goals in the shortest possible time. The flight of Ukrainian Armed Forces units, the liberation of a significant part of the territory of Ukraine - while saving the lives of our soldiers.

As presented, a one-time use of tactical nuclear weapons appears not so much as an act of intimidation, but truly as an act of humanism.

Alas, with all the advantages of this solution, it causes a fair amount of skepticism.

What questions concern military experts?

Classic doctrines of nuclear deterrence were based on strict mathematical calculations


The basis was the number of charges and the technical capabilities of their delivery vehicles. With a comprehensive assessment of the combat aspects of the “nuclear triad”, analysis of flight time, possible trajectories, damage radius and circular probable deflection of warheads.

New doctrine based on a single assumption — the enemy’s camp contains only cowardly weaklings. Frightened by the flash of the explosion, they will agree to agree to any of our conditions.

But how justified are the hopes for another meeting? with flowers and with your hands up?

Excessive requirements for the success of the operation


This question has never before been raised in doctrines on the use of nuclear weapons.

In the context of a global nuclear conflict, some of the hundreds of launched missiles and their warheads will not be able to hit their targets for various reasons. As all training and test firings demonstrate, the percentage of successful launches is high, but never reaches 100%.

A technical failure or interception of an individual carrier in the context of a global nuclear war is not of great importance. There will be no one to count and analyze. In such a war, everyone will get it!

The single use of nuclear weapons in a local war raises the question head on. A 100% guarantee of success is required. Failure to carry out an order at one of the stages of the command chain, a preemptive strike on a carrier, interception by a Patriot anti-missile missile, or a technical malfunction of a nuclear charge (fell and failed to explode on neutral or enemy territory!). Such a scenario would have the most disastrous consequences.

In the presence of all kinds of plans and directives, the consequences of the use of nuclear weapons cannot be calculated and are not elements of the strategy


Experts are cautious in describing the situation only during the first minutes after a strike with tactical nuclear weapons. There are only two options.

The first is the enemy’s state of shock and the immediate raising of a white flag.

The opposite scenario involves military response. The most expected reaction would be demonstrative attempts to destroy the carrier. Strikes on the positions of the Iskander OTRK, from where a missile with a special warhead was launched.

Everything further is hidden behind the event horizon...


As for the openly stated name, according to Western experts, it is the 9K720 Iskander operational-tactical missile system that is the most likely delivery vehicle for operations of this format. The use of OTRK requires the least number of preparatory activities and allows the length of the command chain to be reduced to a minimum. In addition, OTRK missiles have the shortest flight time and are hardly vulnerable to air defense/missile defense systems.

The threat of nuclear weapons proliferation along Russia's borders


The scientific and technical capabilities of some states allow them to create nuclear weapons in the shortest possible time, subject to a political decision. For example, for Japan, which already has reserves of weapons-grade plutonium, experts set a period of several months.

The only thing that separates Japan from creating its own nuclear weapons is voluntary compliance with established rules.

The Soviet Union, USA, Great Britain, France and China determined the conditions for the “legitimacy” of possessing nuclear weapons. This required a nuclear test to be carried out before January 1, 1967. Anyone who is late is doomed to eternal sanctions from the “great nuclear powers.”

But the main deterrent was not sanctions. The main thing was the promise made in front of the whole world and secured by the reputation of the “great powers”.

Do not use nuclear weapons against those who do not possess such weapons.

Currently, the use of nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear country can open a “Pandora's box”.

Conversation about the power of tactical nuclear weapons


The idea of ​​tactical nuclear weapons as a “small bomb” does not meet expectations.

There are no regulations that limit the yield of tactical nuclear weapons.

The differences between “strategic” and “non-strategic” nuclear weapons have always been determined not by the power of the warheads, but by the range of the carriers.

Strategic nuclear weapons are placed on carriers with an intercontinental flight range.

Everything else belongs to the field of tactical (non-strategic) nuclear weapons.

The power of the charges was always chosen based on military necessity. With the help of tactical nuclear weapons it was supposed to fight against fortified areas, stop tank army and hit naval formations in the open ocean. Large-scale problems that could not be solved with low-power “toy” charges.

Special nuclear units for tactical purposes exceed in power the parameters of warheads of strategic ICBMs/SLBMs.

The high-speed nuclear-powered Shkval torpedo had a warhead equivalent in power to the warhead of the Bulava SLBM (150 kilotons).

A hundred kilotons for tactical nuclear weapons is far from the limit. To destroy aircraft carrier groups and naval formations following an anti-nuclear order, the Soviet P-500 anti-ship complex included missiles with special warheads with a capacity of 350 kt.

Another anti-ship complex, the P-120 Amethyst, used missiles with thermonuclear parts with a megaton capacity.


This is roughly what an anti-nuclear order looks like, where the minimum distance between ships is measured in miles. To guarantee the destruction of such a squadron, megaton-class warheads are required

Currently, American B61 thermonuclear bombs of the third, fourth and tenth modifications, considered tactical nuclear weapons, are equipped with a charge of adjustable power from 0,3 to 170 kt. At maximum explosion power, such bombs are capable of causing greater destruction than the warheads of the Trident-2 strategic missiles (W78, 100 kt).

A nuclear explosion is subject to the same laws as explosions of “conventional” warheads filled with a chemical explosive.

As the blast wave propagates through the atmosphere, it weakens to the third power of the distance traveled. In other words, a kilometer from the epicenter, the impact of any explosion weakens a billion times.

The inverse cubic relationship makes all attempts to increase the affected area by increasing the power of the ammunition itself pointless. A 1 megaton charge will have only 4 times the radius of destruction than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima (16 kt).

It is no coincidence that half a century ago, strategic nuclear forces abandoned the use of high-power thermonuclear charges, opting for multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs). Ten warheads with a yield of 100 kt - where each explosion occurs close to the designated target - are significantly more effective than a single megaton-class Tsar Bomb.

After the end of hostilities in 1945, the US military conducted research on the ruins of the city of Hiroshima. It was found that the scale of destruction could have been achieved using 2 kilotons of conventional aerial bombs.


The consequences of a nuclear strike in this case are unlikely to be noticeable

The overwhelming majority of the energy released during the Fat Man explosion was spent on heating and evaporating objects located near the epicenter. Contrary to military necessity, the buildings were “disassembled” into individual atoms.

Conventional aerial bombs, falling at some distance from each other, provide a much more “effective” spread of the shock wave and other damaging factors. Therefore, to cause similar damage to urban areas, they required 8 times less energy than a nuclear explosion. This has been repeatedly proven in practice during the bombing of German and Japanese cities.

As a summary


It remains to add that given the achieved accuracy levels of modern air attack weapons, the need for tactical nuclear weapons looks doubtful.

Locations of enemy troops and accumulations of equipment are usually cited as possible targets for such a strike. In this case, direct hits from FABs with a unified planning and correction module (UMPC) have much greater tactical and military significance than a single explosion of a nuclear weapon with a yield of tens (and even hundreds) of kilotons.


Arrival of 500 kg bombs from UMPC to Nazi warehouses in Berislav

The issue of using tactical nuclear weapons is associated with irreparable foreign policy risks. There is a danger that such actions will alienate the few true allies who are currently willing to support us.

Tactical nuclear weapons are not the magic sword that can cut through the “Gordian knot” of problems at once. And its use will have unprecedented economic, political and military consequences, which could negatively affect the country’s defense capability. This should be understood by everyone who, in an excess of emotion, calls to “bang” the enemy.

Moreover, there is no military need for this.

The report is over.

Readers have the opportunity to independently speculate on this topic and present their own vision of the situation.
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  1. -18
    29 February 2024 04: 45
    the fact that after the use of nuclear weapons, the territory is unsuitable for living and performing tasks, you apparently don’t know, Comrade Kaptsov? or are you more interested in “thermal shock wave”?
    1. +11
      29 February 2024 05: 01
      Something from the series: You can't have mercy on a bomb!
    2. KCA
      +19
      29 February 2024 05: 03
      Everything is suitable, a nuclear explosion practically does not lead to contamination of the area, after 340 hours the radiation level drops 1000 times and you can go into the remaining houses and live, the radiation induced by neutron radiation will remain for a long time, but its level is not high, I myself walked past a dirty dump for a year and a half iron, sidewalk a couple of meters away, wooden fence from the fence
      1. Msi
        +2
        29 February 2024 05: 18
        Everything is suitable, a nuclear explosion practically does not lead to contamination of the area, after 340 hours the radiation level drops 1000 times

        Thank you, you provided more accurate data...
      2. -8
        29 February 2024 05: 22
        Quote: KCA
        Everything is suitable, a nuclear explosion practically does not lead to contamination of the area, after 340 hours the radiation level drops 1000 times and you can go into the remaining houses and live, the radiation induced by neutron radiation will remain for a long time, but its level is not high, I myself walked past a dirty dump for a year and a half iron, sidewalk a couple of meters away, wooden fence from the fence

        and why Chernobyl is not actively populated...
        1. KCA
          +24
          29 February 2024 05: 34
          There is some difference in the decay products formed in a nuclear reactor, their quantity, the amount of nuclear fuel and the initiator of a thermonuclear explosion for which 12 kg of plutonium is enough, with some tricks even less, the thermonuclear explosion itself does not form isots, only helium and neutron radiation
          1. KCA
            +18
            29 February 2024 05: 40
            Pysy: I looked, the RBMK-1000 was loaded with fuel like at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant, 189 tons, and it all flew away in a thermal explosion
          2. +2
            29 February 2024 18: 32
            Quote: KCA
            The thermonuclear explosion itself does not produce isots, only helium and neutron radiation

            KSA, well, you can’t be so naive and believe that nuclear scientists, tasked with creating an enemy “destroyer,” will allow neutrons to fly aimlessly! They (and for a long time!), since the time of Ak. D. Sakharov, wrapped lithium deuterite in a COBOLT shirt and got what the GDP was talking about in good faith: if a megaton-class warhead is detonated (and this could be ONLY thermonuclear!) NPA Poseidon, vast areas of the US coast will be out of use for a long period appeals! Well, or don’t you believe our Supreme One either?
            And Comrade Aerodromny, as far as I know, had to deal with certain products in his service. That’s why he writes what he is 110% sure of, because without passing tests on the “design and use capabilities” of the transported product, l/s was not allowed to operate it. I know this for sure, from myself.
            AHA.
            1. KCA
              +4
              29 February 2024 18: 49
              Cobalt and its isotopes do not take part in the I or TN reaction, it is only an isotope that can be formed and pollute the area, it is just an analogue of a dirty bomb, and everyone will poop, because it is not visible, and you can not tell anyone, but if you smack 100 mT then everyone will crap themselves here, you won’t have to talk, and the EMP will extinguish everything
        2. +13
          29 February 2024 05: 46
          In Chernobyl, a thermal explosion of the reactor, when tons of long-lived isotopes of heavy masses were released into the atmosphere. Below they wrote... thermonuclear is relatively pure... mostly short-lived light isotopes. And there are no nuclear weapons now... these are only the initiators of thermonuclear weapons... and they react almost 99% later
          1. Msi
            0
            29 February 2024 05: 53
            In Chernobyl, a thermal explosion of the reactor,

            Good morning. hi Tell us as a person who is very close to the front line. Wouldn't our fighters mind if we used Tiao in Ukraine?
            1. +1
              29 February 2024 06: 00
              And you do not praise hi
              There is a division by power... small tactical ones 0.1-10kt are not thermonuclear. And in fact, although the efficiency is now high, the contamination of the area is very high, because decay reaction and many heavy isotopes with short decay periods. In fact, the number of such charges is very small, not only for us, but also for them. By tiao I would mean charges from 100 kt and specifically thermonuclear ones, where the nuclear charge itself serves as the initiator. The main infection of the area is the initiator.

              Let's just say I have letters. But somewhere in another dimension and another course of events, there are probably initiators who can make thermonuclear fusion almost without fission. drinks lol
              1. +2
                1 March 2024 13: 02
                It also depends on the height of the detonation. Air is the cleanest, ground is the dirtiest, underground - depends on the depth. In general, as long as the fireball doesn't touch the surface, it's pretty clean.
                1. 0
                  1 March 2024 13: 38
                  Nagashiki showed that a fairly dense brick building resists quite well even with an explosion of a couple of hundred meters and shields the shock wave, light and other radiation. Therefore, the Americans were not particularly willing to show photos from the city.
                  Therefore, now the explosion is 100% airborne in urban areas - about 1 km + - For specific POINT targets - naturally ground or even “underground” when the warhead penetrates inside at the beginning (the same dagger with a special warhead). Those. The warhead penetrates soil/concrete, etc. and only then does the warhead itself fire. Those. Most of the energy already goes to the shock wave in the ground and the actual formation of the plasma bubble. The rest, yes, is for dumping soil. Actually in this case the process is similar to a meteorite impact.
                  1. 0
                    8 March 2024 14: 53
                    Almost everyone calculates percentages from the epicenter, but a lot depends on the power. 1 megaton per kilometer from the surface demolishes everything completely within a radius of 2 kilometers.
                    1. +1
                      8 March 2024 15: 00
                      There is a zone of 100% destruction - the plasma cloud itself and the near zone, where the speed of the shock wave is many times greater than the speed of sound... not to mention neutron, gamma radiation and banal light
                      1. +2
                        8 March 2024 15: 07
                        In addition to the fact that I had to learn civil engineering in all zones at the technical school, I also voluntarily studied everything as a partisan in a construction battalion in the Chernobyl zone. The topic was certainly interesting for me. For about 3 years there was a slight excess of internal radiation for cesium, but nothing was alive and seemed to be in good health for age.
                      2. +1
                        8 March 2024 15: 14
                        In high school from 7 to 11 - Dombarovsky, clear - very strong attention was paid to life safety. Even in 97, when I entered Moscow State University, even those who did not plan to join the department, we had a subject - alas, I don’t remember what it was called. His retired colonel led...his grandfather was quite ancient. A very smart guy for his age. So I automatically received everything from him from the entire “platoon” (well, I’m talking about the group lol )
                      3. 0
                        8 March 2024 15: 18
                        Army joke question: Why do you need to fall with your feet towards it when there is a nuclear weapons outbreak? Answer: To see your eggs fly.
                      4. +2
                        8 March 2024 15: 19
                        Yeah, while slowly crawling to the cemetery... why slowly? So as not to create panic! laughing
          2. 0
            29 February 2024 13: 26
            At Chernobyl, 110-120 tons of radioactive mass flew out of the reactor, that is, fuel, moderator, structural parts, etc. Immediately 20-25% of the charge will “burn out”, and only the remaining will be dissipated.
            1. 0
              1 March 2024 04: 28
              20-25% - these are the first American atomic bombs, and the Soviet Tsar Bomba already had 95%.
        3. +13
          29 February 2024 07: 02
          Look at the population dynamics of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. How many years later was it rebuilt and occupied after the explosion? In addition, these were the first bombs, so to speak, of “low environmental class.” You can live, it’s not a fountain of course, but it’s not completely deadly either.
          1. +2
            29 February 2024 19: 51
            Quote: T-100
            You can live, it’s not a fountain of course, but it’s not completely deadly.

            This does not apply to radiological weapons, which include the cobalt bomb.
            Cobalt Bomb - this is a type of “salt bomb” - a nuclear weapon designed to produce an increased amount of radioactive fallout, contaminate a large area with radioactive materials, for the purpose of radiological warfare, guaranteed destruction of the enemy's railway... The concept of a cobalt bomb was originally described by physicist Leo Szilard February 26, 1950.
            In 2015, a Russian nuclear torpedo design was leaked. The project was called "Oceanic Multi-Purpose System Status-6", later officially named Poseidon. The document stated that the torpedo would create “extensive zones of radioactive contamination, which will make them unsuitable for military, economic or other activities for a long time.” Its payload will be “many tens of megatons of power.” The Rossiyskaya Gazeta publication suggested that the warhead would be a cobalt bomb.
            After the explosion of a 60 kg cobalt bomb, while within the radius 100 km get lethal dose of radiation and you will live 2-3 weeks. In 52 years, when the 10th half-life ends, it will be possible to stay in the affected area for up to 4 days without harm to health...
            And the radiation intensity will completely decrease after 130 years, i.e. 25 half-lives.

            Who still has the desire to play nuclear Armageddon!?
            1. 0
              29 February 2024 20: 00
              Well, there are probably much fewer cobalt bombs in the arsenal than regular ones, and there’s no point in making such bombs if one of the main goals after victory is to capture and exploit the enemy’s resources.
              The project was called "Oceanic Multi-Purpose System Status-6", later officially named Poseidon. The document stated that the torpedo would create “vast zones of radioactive contamination, which will make them unsuitable for military, economic or other activities for a long time.”

              Well, this is pure fiction, or you have to be a fool and not know what the water cycle in nature and currents are. With one such explosion you can infect all the oceans, and then drink from such a well yourself.
              1. -1
                29 February 2024 20: 34
                Quote: T-100
                one of the main goals after victory is to capture and exploit the enemy’s resources.

                We don't need their resources. We have enough of our own for many generations to come!
                Quote: T-100
                Well, this is pure stuffing,
                I think the Supreme Commander publicly warned the Yankees that “matches are not toys for children!” And no one is going to mess with them in the event of a big mess - they will cut them to zero!
                1. +2
                  29 February 2024 20: 37
                  I think the Supreme Commander publicly warned the Yankees that “matches are not toys for children!” And no one is going to mess with them in the event of a big mess - they will cut them to zero!

                  Pfff, no comment.
                  1. +2
                    4 March 2024 18: 28
                    That's right, military nuclear explosions are not commented on due to the lack of Internet and electricity.
            2. +1
              4 March 2024 18: 30
              Full of suicide clubs and hopelessly ill people. They have nothing to lose.
            3. -1
              April 21 2024 09: 52
              The London area was asking for cadmium. The stone should be painted red. Stop messing with the world, the stick has two ends.
        4. +1
          1 March 2024 15: 34
          You have already been answered many times below/above... Adherents of the horror of radiation... An explosion at a nuclear power plant is many times more terrible than the explosion of a thermonuclear bomb. The difference is in the isotopes... in nuclear power plants - hellish, long-lived and highly emitted nucleides, after a thermonuclear explosion - short-lived and not so emitted.
          1. 0
            April 6 2024 02: 33
            Exactly! Especially if nuclear weapons developers take special measures that will cause an uncontrollable chain reaction in the attacked nuclear reactor. But the enemy has a lot of these reactors and they were all built by our specialists.
        5. 0
          4 March 2024 18: 26
          There was no nuclear explosion. There everything was 1000 times worse - a huge dirty bomb.
          1. 0
            April 6 2024 02: 41
            An uncontrollable chain reaction began in Chernobyl, but it was short-lived (it was what eyewitnesses described as a lilac flash). It was the threat of its re-start that caused such large-scale work to shut down the destroyed reactor... The molten fuel rods could form a so-called nuclear drop where the NCR could begin and go out... and move along the surface, burning everything around towards the deepest level on the earth's surface ....
            1. 0
              April 12 2024 14: 19
              You are partly right and partly wrong. Now I will open a Pandora’s box by opening a discussion about the causes and course of the Chernobyl accident, but I have been studying this issue for quite a long time based on the books by Anatoly Petrovich Dyatlov “Chernobyl. How it happened. Nikolai Karpan “Revenge of the Peaceful Atom”, IAEA report INSAG 7. I watched and read an interview with Nikolai Steinberg (acting chief engineer of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant after the accident), read the scientific work of Alexander Rumyantsev, a man who in the 60s was engaged in mathematical and computer (yes at that time there were such possibilities in the USSR) calculation of the physics of RBMK type reactors -1000.
              The chain reaction actually occurred in the first phase of the accident due to technological miscalculations in the design of the reactor, which led to positive power and steam coefficients, which was manifested in the speed of power gain during the introduction of protection rods under the AZ-5 protocol. In 3-4 seconds, all the water in the reactor volume turned into steam; the opened main safety valves did not save it; as a result, the upper biological protective plate weighing 200 tons under pressure was torn off and thrown up along with fuel rods with fuel. At the same time, as a result of the steam-zirconium reaction, hydrogen was formed in the volume of the core (under the high temperatures of the heated fuel elements, the steam decomposed into hydrogen and oxygen), after the reactor lid was torn off, air entered from the atmosphere, mixed with hydrogen, and a second explosion occurred , which threw out highly radioactive graphite stack and remains with fuel rods from the core (the uranium fuel was already spent, since the reactor was shut down for scheduled repairs and loading with new fuel)
              No fuel residues were found in volumes that could lead to the melting of the concrete base of the reactor. Konstantin Pavlovich Checherov descended into the reactor and found no fuel there, a maximum of 10-12% on “elephant legs”, the rest was thrown into the atmosphere, which is why the accident has such monstrous and large-scale consequences....
      3. +1
        29 February 2024 09: 37
        Do you want to move to the Semipalatinsk test site or spend the summer on Novaya Zemlya?
      4. 0
        1 March 2024 15: 45
        The level of penetrating radiation and contamination of the area are slightly different things
    3. Msi
      +1
      29 February 2024 05: 10
      the fact that after the use of nuclear weapons, the territory is unsuitable for living and performing tasks, you apparently do not know, Comrade Kaptsov

      I recently read a little about the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion. This is primarily a shock wave. It’s not all that scary there, if we talk about the pollution of the territory. In 2 weeks the background radiation will drop significantly...
      1. -20
        29 February 2024 05: 20
        Quote from Msi
        I recently read a little about damaging factors

        maybe you read it wrong? Go to Chernobyl, there are interesting books there.
        1. Msi
          +2
          29 February 2024 05: 26
          maybe you read it wrong? go to Chernobyl, there are interesting books there

          It seems that... There the Ministry of Emergency Situations was mentioned and Rosatom. I don't remember what article it was. Chernobyl contamination is somewhat different from the use of nuclear weapons. Over there, KSA writes data from this article...
          1. -11
            29 February 2024 05: 28
            Quote from Msi
            maybe you read it wrong? go to Chernobyl, there are interesting books there

            It seems that... Chernobyl pollution is somewhat different than from the use of nuclear weapons.

            yah ??? is there “other radiation”?
            1. Msi
              0
              29 February 2024 05: 33
              yah ??? there is "different radiation"

              Aerodrome, speaking of you, it’s close to you to reduce the background to measure at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant... wink
              1. +1
                29 February 2024 05: 39
                funny. I already live at Beloyarka.
            2. +2
              29 February 2024 06: 07
              Quote: Aerodrome
              Quote from Msi
              maybe you read it wrong? go to Chernobyl, there are interesting books there

              It seems that... Chernobyl pollution is somewhat different than from the use of nuclear weapons.

              yah ??? is there “other radiation”?

              There is a different amount of radioactive substances there.
              And here, and not there, you still have the same trolling.
            3. +3
              29 February 2024 09: 09
              Quote: Aerodrome
              yah ??? is there “other radiation”?

              Of course it’s different, the reaction is different, and the isotopes are different. EVERYTHING is different there. Above, everything was chewed well.
            4. +4
              29 February 2024 10: 26
              Quote: Aerodrome
              yah ??? is there “other radiation”?

              Imagine, yes! Because the explosion of a nuclear charge and the thermal explosion of a reactor are far from the same thing! And nuclear reactions are a very multifaceted thing, there are not much fewer types of them than chemical reactions, and the results of reactions (isotopes) too. And the types of radiation are also different - alpha, beta and gamma - they also manifest themselves very differently and are not equally dangerous.
              But here's something else.
              As a worthy response, there are proposals for the one-time use of non-strategic nuclear weapons.

              Do not rely on a ONE-TIME use of nuclear weapons. Any, even the smallest explosion of tactical nuclear weapons will serve as a trigger for a full-scale nuclear war of all with all. For if “why do we need the whole world without Russia” (C), then other leaders of other countries say approximately the same thing. In addition, if a decision is made to use Tiao at our highest levels, then this decision, through all sorts of leaks, will immediately become known on the other side (which is not surprising, judging by the results of many decisions). And it will be possible to carry out a preemptive strike. And away we go...
            5. +4
              29 February 2024 13: 36
              And the anomalies are still scary and mutants are running around. Go see Sidorovich... he’s close to you there in the next room - is he alive or something - everyone is worried! good
              Quote: Aerodrome
              yah ??? is there “other radiation”?
            6. 0
              1 March 2024 15: 47
              The radiation is the same, contamination of the area with various isotopes is a little different!
            7. 0
              20 March 2024 11: 36
              Actually yes. There is “different” radiation there. to begin with, the radiation itself is of three different types: alpha and beta particles, gamma radiation... well, you can also add a neutron flux. But it is short-lived.
              So there is also a difference from what produces this radiation - short-lived isotopes (nuclear bonba) or long-lived isotopes (nuclear reactor).

              So, after a bomb explosion, the radiation level obeys the 7/10 rule: every sevenfold increase in time (in hours) reduces the radiation level by 10 times. Those. 7 hours after the explosion the radiation level will drop by 10 times, after 49 hours (~2 days) by 100 times from the initial one, after ~2 weeks by 1000 times. Therefore, the first two days are considered the most dangerous, and after 2 weeks you can almost calmly walk around the site of the former explosion

              With a reactor it’s completely different, there: firstly, there is an incomparably larger amount of fissile material, tens to hundreds of tons, instead of tens of kilograms in a bomb. Secondly, in the reactor the fuel itself is long-lasting, and its reaction products are similar.
        2. +17
          29 February 2024 05: 48
          Yes, how much you can write! Chernobyl is a thermal explosion! When many tons of NUCLEAR fuel with isotopes were thrown into the atmosphere, which take hundreds and millions of years to decay. In thermonuclear fusion, isotopes are short-lived. Learn the mat part. No offense! This is taught at the military department of Moscow State University in the 1st year at the physics department, even
          1. +2
            29 February 2024 20: 04
            Quote from Enceladus
            In thermonuclear fusion, isotopes are short-lived. Learn the mat part.

            You are writing about a “pure” thermonuclear fusion reaction. Now put a Co-60 “shirt” on YAZU, and you will get --- RADIOLOGICAL weapons! And about the cobalt bomb, don’t be lazy, read, well, at least on WIKI.
            Here is an example of our attitude to the problem:
            On November 10, 2000, information appeared in the Russian press with reference to Colonel General E. A. Negin’s interview with foreign journalists that Academician A. D. Sakharov’s group allegedly proposed that N. S. Khrushchev do cobalt-plated ship, containing a large amount of deuterium next to a nuclear bomb. If detonated off the east coast of America, radioactive fallout would fall on US territory.

            As you can see, we don’t feel sorry for anything for the Yankees. And Putin’s statement regarding POSEIDON is a clear confirmation of this!
            Somehow, however. AHA.
          2. -1
            4 March 2024 04: 29
            Indeed, kitty, learn the hardware - in the 1st year there is no military department, and not only at Moscow State University))
            1. 0
              4 March 2024 06: 53
              And this is for the overexcited tongue laughing
          3. 0
            April 6 2024 02: 46
            Who told you about the thermal explosion at the sixth reactor? This duck was... to calm the population of Oya and the corresponding enemy structures.
        3. +1
          29 February 2024 07: 58
          and why Chernobyl is not actively populated...

          They are moving in, and how! There are countless animals. And they don’t get sick. By the way, not all people left. No additional diseases were found. Well, tons of dangerous fission products during a ground release are not tens of grams during a high-altitude or underwater release.
      2. 0
        29 February 2024 22: 15
        Maybe it's not so scary. But you need to keep in mind that the Pentagon cannot scare anyone with tactical nuclear weapons. There are also plenty of people willing to try it. So, with a high degree of probability, it will come to an exchange of tactical nuclear weapons strikes. Isn’t it scary in Belgorod?
        And it is unlikely to stop at tactical nuclear weapons.
    4. +3
      29 February 2024 06: 34
      Quote: Aerodrome
      the fact that after the use of nuclear weapons, the territory is unsuitable for living and performing tasks, you apparently don’t know, Comrade Kaptsov? or are you more interested in “thermal shock wave”?

      The main thing is that it is very dashing, loud and loud...

      The West has become too relaxed and accustomed to the fact that, in classical concepts, nuclear weapons are limited to the function of a “ceremonial sword.” With this sword you can draw “red lines”. But, as the practice of the Northern Military District shows, such measures are not enough

      So maybe it’s better to use “decision centers” after all? Otherwise, so much has been written/spoken about this... What is the point of destroying land near your borders? And what will it even look like? Do we have a Northern Military District or the 4th World War? If the first, coupled with the desire for future integration of new/old territories with Russia, then it’s generally wild; if the latter, then you need to call a spade a spade and bash everything and almost everyone...
      1. +2
        29 February 2024 09: 09
        Quote: Doccor18
        What's the point of destroying land near your borders?

        And then! Better yet, border crossings, transit of weapons from NATO. Whatever the urge to restore.
      2. -1
        29 February 2024 09: 11
        Quote: Doccor18
        So maybe it’s better to use “decision centers” after all?

        Is it possible to throw 100 Mt in the center of Kyiv? Are you out of your mind? fool
        1. +2
          29 February 2024 10: 05
          Do they make any decisions in Kyiv? And how long?
          fool
          1. +1
            29 February 2024 10: 12
            Quote: Doccor18
            Do they make any decisions in Kyiv? And how long?

            Ahh, well then, straight to the Pentagon and Washington. True, tactical nuclear weapons will not reach there, if you didn’t know.
            fool fool
            And yes, operational decisions are made in Kyiv. And it was precisely these centers that our rulers kept threatening to strike. But...
            1. +2
              29 February 2024 10: 14
              Quote: Zoer
              True, tactical nuclear weapons will not reach there, if you didn’t know.

              Before you scribble nonsense, you should read my first comment, not across a line, not diagonally...
              1. -1
                29 February 2024 10: 43
                Quote: Doccor18
                Before you scribble nonsense, you should read my first comment, not across a line, not diagonally...

                Well, let's read...

                So maybe it’s better to use “decision centers” after all? And so much has been written/spoken about this...

                Where and by whom was so much said about our attacks on decision-making centers in the United States or Europe? What reality did you fall out of here?
                1. -1
                  29 February 2024 10: 49
                  This topic is discussed regularly.
                  Well, you take lines out of the text, you need to read everything, and not what you want to turn inside out.
                  Quote: Zoer
                  What reality are you from?

                  Which one are you from? Is it possible to seriously talk about the atomic bombing of a neighboring state, which “seems like one people,” but “which does not exist,” but parts of which “will live with us after denazification”? It's either a cross or panties...
                  1. -3
                    29 February 2024 11: 02
                    Quote: Doccor18
                    This topic is discussed regularly.

                    Oh, well, if you are talking about the TV Show of Solovyov and Skabeeva, then this explains everything. You are definitely not entirely present in this reality, just like your idols.
                    The officials of our country did not say this. They talked about attacks on decision-making centers in Kyiv. And we were talking about conventional weapons.
                    Quote: Doccor18
                    Is it possible to seriously talk about the atomic bombing of a neighboring state, which “seems like one people,” but “which does not exist,” but parts of which “will live with us after denazification”? It's either a cross or panties...

                    Is it possible to seriously talk about a nuclear strike, and a single one, for intimidation, against the centers of state power of NATO countries?
                    1. 0
                      29 February 2024 11: 21
                      Quote: Zoer
                      You are not quite present in this reality, just like your idols.

                      1. Learn to communicate politely first.
                      2. Don't use labels.
                      3. If you do not understand the meaning of what is written, then you should not draw hasty conclusions from this and get personal.
                      4. Like many, you are captive of double standards and pseudo-patriotic illusions. But this is not surprising, because to talk “seriously” about “bang” here and taboo “bang” there already says a lot, and above all about the intellectual immaturity of the heralds. And if from there the answer flies across our territory (it won’t rust from the democrats) something “small” of 5-10 kilotons? What will you write then?
                      1. -1
                        29 February 2024 11: 34
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        1. Learn to communicate politely first.

                        Mutually.
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        2. Don't use labels.

                        Do not pass important statements from one mouth to another. Especially from the mouths of clowns into the mouths of leaders.
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        3. If you do not understand the meaning of what is written, then you should not draw hasty conclusions from this and get personal.

                        Maybe I should be clearer? So far I understand that you just want to bang, but THERE...
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        Like many, you are captive of double standards and pseudo-patriotic illusions. But this is not surprising, because talking “seriously” about “bang” here and tabooing “bang” there already says a lot,

                        This is exactly your proposal to bang THERE. But you also transfer your own nonsense onto me. Is this your thing, putting all sorts of nonsense into other people’s mouths?
                        My only mistake was that I thought you were suggesting we crash here.
                        In general, I’m saying that you don’t need to bang ANYWHERE, neither there nor here. At least until they try to attack us.
                      2. +1
                        29 February 2024 11: 43
                        Quote: Zoer
                        My mistake

                        ABOUT! Through the stream of unpleasantness, self-criticism began to be traced - already a positive effect. Try to twirl less at strangers and the communication process will sparkle with new colors...

                        Quote: Zoer
                        here.
                        In general, I’m saying that you don’t need to bang ANYWHERE, neither there nor here. At least until they try to attack us.

                        Well, I'm for it too. It just drives you crazy when they try to talk intelligently about the use of weapons of real mass destruction, naively assuming that this will have a positive effect on something. This will be the last decision on the verge of complete disaster. If we ever have to do this, it will mean the decline of human civilization, because the trigger will be pulled everywhere and at once...
                      3. -1
                        29 February 2024 11: 48
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        Through the stream of unpleasantness, self-criticism began to be traced - already a positive effect. Try to twirl less at strangers and the communication process will sparkle with new colors...

                        Well, who would have thought that anyone here takes nightingale droppings seriously?)))
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        Well, I'm for it too. It just drives you crazy when they try to talk intelligently about the use of weapons of real mass destruction, naively assuming that this will have a positive effect on something. This will be the last decision on the verge of complete disaster. If we ever have to do this, it will mean the decline of human civilization, because the trigger will be pulled everywhere and at once...

                        As a piece of advice, if your sarcasm is very subtle, especially on such serious topics, then mark it as SARCASM. Then misunderstandings like this will not arise. hi
                      4. 0
                        29 February 2024 11: 54
                        Quote: Zoer
                        As a piece of advice, if your sarcasm is very subtle, especially on such serious topics, then mark it as SARCASM. Then misunderstandings like this will not arise.

                        laughing very good advice. Apparently this is what needs to be done...
                        hi
    5. -6
      29 February 2024 09: 03
      Quote: Aerodrome
      the fact that after the use of nuclear weapons, the territory is unsuitable for living and performing tasks, you apparently don’t know, Comrade Kaptsov? or are you more interested in “thermal shock wave”?

      Residents of modern Hiroshima and Nagasaki would simply roll on the floor with laughter upon hearing your “wise” sayings. laughing
      1. +4
        29 February 2024 11: 26
        Quote: Zoer
        Quote: Aerodrome
        the fact that after the use of nuclear weapons, the territory is unsuitable for living and performing tasks, you apparently don’t know, Comrade Kaptsov? or are you more interested in “thermal shock wave”?

        Residents of modern Hiroshima and Nagasaki would simply roll on the floor with laughter upon hearing your “wise” sayings. laughing

        Yes, we would ride... because there are no limbs... look at the consequences. although most likely you are a bot...or insane.
        1. -1
          29 February 2024 11: 41
          Quote: Aerodrome
          Yes, we would ride... because there are no limbs... look at the consequences. although most likely you are a bot...or insane.

          Modern residents, without hands? wassat Yes, their hands are straighter than many. There is a Mazda plant in Hiroshima, which already resumed work in December 1945)))
      2. +3
        29 February 2024 11: 33
        Quote: Zoer
        Residents of modern Hiroshima and Nagasaki would simply be rolling on the floor laughing

        They are still “laughing”... True, most of them are no longer alive, and in 10-44% this was caused by oncology of the thyroid gland and lungs...
        1. 0
          29 February 2024 11: 44
          Quote: Doccor18
          They are still “laughing”... True, most of them are no longer alive, and in 10-44% this was caused by oncology of the thyroid gland and lungs...

          Again you are substituting concepts))) In what period after/during the bombing did these 10-44% receive increased doses of radiation that led to the listed diseases, can you answer?
          1. +2
            29 February 2024 11: 52
            Quote: Zoer
            In what period after/during the bombing did these 10-44% receive increased doses of radiation that led to the listed diseases? Can you answer?

            They got it in the first days, but they died from cancer for more than 40 years after. The Americans themselves thoroughly studied this issue from 1947 to 1989; according to their data, 10% with medium doses and 44% with high doses of radiation greater than 1 Gray were exposed to cancer.
            Quote: Zoer
            You're changing concepts again

            In what
            1. 0
              29 February 2024 12: 42
              Quote: Doccor18
              Received in the first days,

              So that's it, in the FIRST days! It is also stated here that the territories will then be unsuitable for many years. And this is not at all true.
    6. +2
      29 February 2024 11: 02
      The West has become too relaxed and accustomed to the fact that, in classical concepts, nuclear weapons are limited to the function of a “ceremonial sword.”

      It’s funny that the author himself constantly lives in this very West. Oleg, you either take off your cross or put on your panties.
    7. -2
      29 February 2024 14: 00
      This is because the first American charges were simply of low efficiency. There, half the charge simply scattered around. Modern charges are very clean. Then we will occupy this land ourselves.
      So everything is somewhat exaggerated.
      1. 0
        29 February 2024 20: 12
        Quote: MCmaximus
        Modern charges are very clean.

        Are you talking about neutron weapons, or what? It seems like they gave it up a long time ago...
        1. 0
          1 March 2024 17: 52
          Conventional nuclear ones.
          However, I don’t think that its use is a good thing. Everything depends on the circumstances.
        2. 0
          20 March 2024 11: 42
          Why about neutron? All modern charges are quite clean. Modern means anything newer than the 1960s.

          You have heard about the use of nuclear weapons in the USSR in the development of quarries, gas storage facilities, etc. and so on. Would anyone really need this if the territory was then unusable for decades?
        3. +1
          April 6 2024 02: 55
          Nobody refused anything... these are all words for the international community... Which now no one gives a damn.
          By the way.... The first sign of preparation for a nuclear strike will be the shutdown of France's nuclear reactors and the rapid removal of nuclear fuel... Because France has a lot of this outrage...
    8. -2
      29 February 2024 17: 28
      Can I have some solid evidence? Otherwise, I look with surprise at the built-up Hiroshima and Nagasaki
    9. Alf
      0
      29 February 2024 18: 18
      Quote: Aerodrome
      the fact that after the use of nuclear weapons, the territory is unsuitable for living and performing tasks,

      Hiroshima? Nagasaki?
      1. 0
        29 February 2024 18: 58
        These are two big differences. Google it Yes
    10. 0
      29 February 2024 18: 57
      Mr. Aerodromny, I suggest you think about the fact that before the use of nuclear weapons, in the current situation, the territory unsuitable for living and performing tasks is much larger.
      Well, traditionally, read Karaganov hi
    11. 0
      29 February 2024 22: 52
      On August 6, 1949, 4 years after the bombing, the Japanese government proclaimed Hiroshima a “city of peace” and decided to develop the city
    12. 0
      4 March 2024 18: 24
      Apparently you don’t know that a tram started running in Hiroshima 3 days later?
  2. +8
    29 February 2024 04: 52
    The use of tactical nuclear weapons seems to me not to be as “helpless” as the author describes.
    The power of a special ammunition explosion will crush a lot. And if you hit a large populated area (which we condemn a priori), the effect on people’s minds will be enormous.
    The other side of the coin will be the “unsealing” of the general taboo on the very thought of the practical use of nuclear weapons. That is, if someone used a weapon once and “nothing fatal” happened to humanity, then repeated and subsequent uses of weapons will become an increasingly commonplace thing. And in a matter of days, the escalation will lead to a global conflict, the catastrophic consequences of which will be no one to assess.
    1. Msi
      +3
      29 February 2024 05: 06
      The use of tactical nuclear weapons seems to me not to be as “helpless” as the author describes.

      The author clearly wants to downplay the power and effect of using Tiao. For what???
      1. +10
        29 February 2024 05: 15
        I don’t know why. But in a strange way, his material correlates with the ideas about the low danger of nuclear weapons that are cultivated by the West (USA).
        There, for about 20 years now, research results have been published indicating that even in the event of a global nuclear conflict there will be no catastrophic consequences for humanity. And the nuclear winter will not be long and as severe as Soviet scientists claimed, and the radiation will not cause much harm, and will even have a beneficial effect on health. By the way, there are no statistics for Japan. Some of the hibakusha really recovered greatly and are still living.
        But all these ideas are aimed at introducing into the minds the assumption of the appropriateness and possibility of waging a nuclear war, which should alarm us.
        In the future, our sworn friends will stop at nothing to destroy us.
        1. Msi
          -6
          29 February 2024 05: 23
          There for about 20 years now

          Alas, they are right about something... It was not for nothing that the USSR had a huge number of warheads. There aren't that many now. We need to follow the path of increasing the power of our warheads. We need charges that break continents. So that there is no temptation to start a nuclear war with us. "Kuzka's Mother" 2.0 is needed again...
        2. +5
          29 February 2024 05: 56
          There, for about 20 years now, research results have been published indicating that even in the event of a global nuclear conflict there will be no catastrophic consequences for humanity. And the nuclear winter will not be long and as severe as Soviet scientists claimed, and the radiation will not cause much harm, and will even have a beneficial effect on health.

          If we proceed from pure theory, then there cannot be any strong consequences for the environment when using tactical nuclear weapons.
          When a tactical nuclear weapon explodes, the half-life is short.
          It’s another matter if a missile with tactical nuclear weapons is shot down. There will be contamination of the area with radioactive dust and this is already bad. And judging by the fact that our enemies’ intelligence is good and I’m sure there are enough moles at all levels, then when they decide to strike, the enemy will know about it.
          And the worst option is if such a complex is captured.
          Therefore, from the sofa one sees not a single use, but an entire military operation with the deployment of a battery with half of the emission machines to mislead reconnaissance assets. And inflicting group destruction of tactical nuclear weapons along the entire front line with the maximum presence of enemy military personnel and then launching an attack in 2-3 selected directions.
          But let's be honest with ourselves. This is practically impossible to do today. And it's all about specific individuals.
          And a single use of tactical nuclear weapons against an entrenched enemy will have little effect. And it will only raise the enemy’s morale.

          So there will be a “wedding suit” hanging for a holiday that will not happen.
        3. 0
          April 6 2024 02: 58
          Here you go... You can also remember that the Soviet author of the concept of nuclear winter disappeared without a trace on US territory... apparently so as not to frighten the American public
  3. kig
    +1
    29 February 2024 04: 59
    Well, thank you, I reassured you. Just to find out what our generals think about this, and whether they are whispering something completely opposite in the president’s ear?
    1. Msi
      -3
      29 February 2024 05: 38
      Just to find out what our generals think about this

      I believe our generals are telling the president that it is possible to resolve the issue with Ukraine very quickly. This is fine. These are the military, they must offer all ways to solve problems.
  4. Msi
    -12
    29 February 2024 05: 04
    Readers have the opportunity to independently speculate on this topic and present their vision of the situation.

    Clear business.
    And I propose to use at least several dozen warheads in Ukraine. Why does the author alone want to apply fool What is the point???
    Moreover, there is no military need for this.

    Hmm... They seem to want to break bridges here on the forum. So there is not enough power. How many Calibers do we need, one per bridge???
    1. +2
      29 February 2024 09: 20
      When breaking bridges, the main thing is not the power of the warhead, but the accuracy of the hit. What good will it do if a powerful charge blows away the road surface, but the supports remain?
  5. +5
    29 February 2024 05: 07
    It’s strange that no one remembers the neutron bomb: it is certainly the most tactical weapon of all nuclear weapons...
    1. +2
      29 February 2024 05: 26
      The neutron bomb turned out to be the most “helpless” and unnecessary of all variations of nuclear weapons. The details are boring and long in description.
      In my personal opinion, the neutron bomb is good in one case. Namely, as a means of electronic warfare.
      That is, during a mass attack, when it is detonated, it is guaranteed to disable (or completely jam) all detection means in the enemy’s missile defense system.
      1. +1
        29 February 2024 14: 34
        The neutron bomb turned out to be the most “helpless” and unnecessary of all variations of nuclear weapons.

        Please tell us about the effects of neutron weapons in space...
        And many will be surprised.
        1. 0
          29 February 2024 14: 41
          But nuclear weapons cannot be delivered in space. This is exactly what Putin reminded about this in his message.
          Accordingly, no field tests were carried out.
          1. -1
            13 March 2024 22: 42
            What he hasn’t said in 25 years and what he hasn’t promised...
      2. -1
        29 February 2024 22: 27
        Quote: U-58
        In my personal opinion, the neutron bomb is good in one case. Namely, as a means of electronic warfare.
        The neutron bomb was created to stop our tank breakthroughs. The nuclear bomb turned out to be ineffective against tanks (figure it out for yourself: if there are 100 meters between the tanks, then a nuclear strike will burn the heels of the tanks - and that’s it, unpleasant, but not fatal). The neutron bomb was supposed to create short-lived isotopes in the armor that would kill the crew within 3 days (not in 3 days, but within 3 days, anyone who got into the tank would quickly die). To counter this phenomenon, the United States began to make uranium armor, and we have an anti-neutron lining, which weakens the induced radiation.
        1. 0
          1 March 2024 06: 52
          It was such a project. So to speak, one of the practical applications
          A considerable amount of money and probably 15 years of time were spent on this same neutron bomb.
          But in the end, assessments of the application, including those made by the Americans, showed its inconsistency and impracticality.
          The same tanks and other metal structures, after exposure to a neutron beam, became terribly radioactive for many years. Accordingly, it is impossible to use these metals and the territories where these metals were located. That is, having destroyed the enemy in a fairly limited space, the winner could not receive at least any benefit from his victory. All this was sufficiently described in the era of perestroika and goasnost, from where I draw this knowledge.
  6. +7
    29 February 2024 05: 09
    Nuclear weapons cannot be used in a limited manner; the use must be massive, not limited by anything or anyone, and as painful as possible for the enemy and his infrastructure. Half-measures cannot end well, the beginning will not let you lie: when columns of tanks stopped at traffic lights, asked passers-by for directions, soldiers bought food at enemy kiosks, power plants were working, the Internet was not cut off, and now it’s 2024, look where we are and what it’s all about we should have. If you have already entered into a dangerous adventure, you need to swim this distance to the end.
    1. -3
      29 February 2024 05: 25
      Quote from iommy
      If you have already entered into a dangerous adventure, you need to swim this distance to the end.

      agree
    2. -3
      29 February 2024 09: 24
      Tell us about specific examples of asking passers-by for directions. Did you buy food for hryvnias or dollars?
      In short, there is no need to pull the owl onto the globe, otherwise you will come to an agreement that ours were invading a pack of Belomor.
    3. 0
      29 February 2024 09: 28
      Quote from iommy
      If you have already entered into a dangerous adventure, you need to swim this distance to the end.

      And as quickly and aggressively as possible.
  7. +5
    29 February 2024 05: 29
    Tactical nuclear weapons are not the magic sword that can cut through the “Gordian knot” of problems at once. And its use will have unprecedented economic, political and military consequences, which could negatively affect the country’s defense capability. This should be understood by everyone who, in an excess of emotion, calls to “bang” the enemy.

    TNW is that magic shield that allows a country with less economic potential and population to resist coalitions such as NATO with specific goals. This is what it was created for.
    The complacency of some of the country's leaders brought to naught the development of tactical nuclear weapons in our country. And in the USSR there were mortars capable of firing nuclear mines... The Americans have nuclear weapons with a capacity of 0 kt. This is the equivalent of three hundred tons of TNT...By improving the insides of such (similar) ammunition in the direction of reducing the half-life and emissions of radioactive elements, it is possible to obtain a usable ammunition that allows you to RESIST.
    Or does someone have other methods or have a multimillion-dollar army and endless resources?
    Drawing red lines, restrictions on the procedure for destroying the enemies of the Russian Federation, and half-measures in the field of mobilization, martial law and the system of punishment for war crimes during the period of the SVO have a negative impact.
    This should also be understood by those who, with too many feelings about their personal situation, cannot provide Russian citizens with guaranteed protection, citing a lack of money...
    What is seen here is only a lack of conscience and honor, the transformation of the realities of life as defined by the Constitution of the Russian Federation into FARS.
    1. Msi
      -7
      29 February 2024 05: 41
      This is what it was created for.

      Agree. This is a WEAPON nothing more. Or is there a fundamental difference between dying from a knife blow, from an explosion of artillery ammunition or a nuclear explosion. What hurts more??? wassat
    2. Msi
      -5
      29 February 2024 05: 44
      Or does someone have other methods or has a multimillion-dollar army and endless resources

      Those who have other ways, run to the mountains. military registration and enlistment office, and then to storm the fortified areas. Then remember my and some other forum members’ proposal...
      1. -1
        29 February 2024 05: 47
        In addition, there is such a concept:
        Pure fusion weapons
        A theoretical type of thermonuclear weapon in which the conditions for a thermonuclear fusion reaction are created without the use of a uranium or plutonium explosion initiator (trigger).
        This type of weapon does not create long-term radioactive contamination due to the absence of decaying substances in it.
        Currently considered theoretically possible, but the path to practical implementation is unclear.

        This is what we need to work on, and not draw red lines...
    3. +3
      29 February 2024 09: 21
      Quote: ROSS 42
      TNW is that magic shield that allows a country with less economic potential and population to resist coalitions such as NATO with specific goals.

      Throw a bomb into the garden, at the neighbor's, and nail up the gate? Be that as it may, you will have to continue to live with your neighbors. And with NATO it’s strategic nuclear forces.
      1. 0
        29 February 2024 11: 10
        Quote: skeptic
        Throw a bomb into the garden, at the neighbor's, and nail up the gate? Be that as it may, you will have to continue to live with your neighbors.

        Which neighbor is this? Who stole everything from your garden? Who killed your cat, poisoned your dog? Whose children beat your children? Who raped your wife? The one who crippled you with his friends?
        To hell with such a neighbor. A shotgun with buckshot and a shot in the head!
        Holy shit, I’ll cry out of pity for those who shot in the knees, castrated our soldiers, mocked relatives from the phone of their just killed son, husband, brother...
        Yes, it would be better if the earth remains scorched than for it to be infested with nits and parasites...
        1. 0
          1 March 2024 16: 13
          I fully support it, only cruelty and revenge. Otherwise, these whiners and moralists with their eternal - we are not like that, we are humane, we are so fed up that you want to howl. And Belgorod is being bombed, DLRO planes are being dropped, and immediately along the entire front after our side was shot down, the transponders of the NATO planes went out... and these scumbags don’t receive a response. So they become bolder, pricking again and again more painfully and more sensitively. You need to bang, bang en masse and so that the hair of the Geyropians stands out in horror, because the lngs only understand this when the heel of a boot breaks the Adam's apple on their throat, and a boot knife wraps its intestines around its blade. And only this way, in another way - these are all half measures...
  8. -7
    29 February 2024 05: 38
    Rheinmetal factories can be bombed with atomic bombs. A powerful charge is required, you don’t feel sorry for them, and the blow is completely historically, culturally and legally justified.
    1. 0
      13 March 2024 22: 45
      Well, well, only the wind rose will bear isotopic precipitation right on you, dreamer
  9. -9
    29 February 2024 05: 42
    A demonstrative strike of nuclear weapons on a selected target of the Kyiv regime would allow achieving all the military and political goals set in the shortest possible time
    That's right! Only I would also add that this will save the lives of our military personnel
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 09: 32
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      A demonstrative strike of nuclear weapons on a selected target of the Kyiv regime would allow achieving all the military and political goals set in the shortest possible time
      That's right! Only I would also add that this will save the lives of our military personnel

      Then we’ll have to hit Washington, because that’s where the decision-making center is. A blow to any place, in Ukraine, will only lead to a reassignment of figures in power. For the final isolation of Russia from the whole world, this is exactly what the leaders of the Main Bourgeoisie expect from us.
      1. -5
        29 February 2024 11: 17
        Quote: skeptic
        . For the final isolation of Russia from the whole world, this is exactly what is expected of us
        But in my opinion, we are now in complete isolation, the very case when there is nothing to lose. This is a unique case, and it’s strange to me that we don’t use it against our enemies
        1. -2
          29 February 2024 13: 33
          Why won't the DPRK launch a demonstrative strike on South Korea so that the cowardly Koreans will capitulate and the Americans will flee? After all, she is completely isolated and has nothing to lose. Or is there?
          1. -2
            29 February 2024 14: 50
            Quote: Kmon
            Well, North Korea will not launch a demonstrative strike on South Korea
            You need to ask about this in Pyongyang
        2. 0
          29 February 2024 21: 38
          Quote: Dutchman Michel
          But in my opinion, we are now in complete isolation, the very case when there is nothing to lose

          You may have nothing (although it’s unlikely that you have nothing at all, you’re pointing your fingers at some kind of screen). But other people have a list, and sometimes an overwhelming one.
          1. -2
            1 March 2024 04: 42
            Quote: Negro
            But other people have a list, and sometimes an overwhelming one.

            I hope you are included in this list too.
        3. -1
          29 February 2024 22: 30
          that is, you already agree to take the machine gun and go in search of food while your family waits for you in the barracks between 12 o’clock. shifts
        4. 0
          2 March 2024 14: 13
          We are not. Moreover, it is lower both psychologically and actually, in contrast to 2022.
  10. -3
    29 February 2024 05: 44
    The number of states fighting against Russia, which is recognized by Russian politicians themselves, removes from us all restrictions on the use of any weapons. Alternatively, it is possible to carry out explosions along the border between Ukraine and Europe every 5 km. This is 200 pcs. Europe is our first, but not the main enemy, it is on our borders and dreams of destroying Russia, it must be destroyed, but we don’t have enough ammunition, before the peacekeepers disarmed. In general, we have 110 billionaires with a total amount of 550 billion and where are all their property and assets located? Can our government be free in its decisions without regard to this company? Therefore, the West is untouchable; no matter what happens, we won’t even notice a nuclear strike on one city.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 12: 47
      Quote: staer-62
      The number of states fighting against Russia, which is recognized by Russian politicians themselves,

      Which Russian politicians exactly recognize this? Solovyov and Skabeeva? Well, according to the logic of these “politicians,” Ukraine has been at war with Russia since 2014.
      1. -1
        29 February 2024 16: 15
        Starting from Putin and below.
        1. 0
          29 February 2024 16: 33
          Quote: staer-62
          Starting from Putin and below.

          Yes you!? Maybe post a link to the source where he stated this?
          I heard Peskov say that if NATO countries send troops to Ukraine, this will inevitably lead to a war between the Russian Federation and NATO. In your opinion, we are already at war. How is that?
          1. 0
            29 February 2024 18: 25
            In the first part of his Address to the Federal Assembly, Vladimir Putin directly stated that the United States is choosing targets for attacks on Russia, hiding behind the rhetoric of readiness for negotiations.
            Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/news/districts/1959807-udary/
            This is one of the latest statements. Look for it yourself.
            1. +1
              29 February 2024 19: 25
              Quote: staer-62
              In the first part of his Address to the Federal Assembly, Vladimir Putin directly stated that the United States is choosing targets for attacks on Russia, hiding behind the rhetoric of readiness for negotiations.

              Well, since 2014, ours have also been choosing targets for strikes by the LDPR militias, supplying them with weapons, intelligence data, and even vacationers. Those. poor nenka has been fighting with Russia since 2014?
              1. -1
                29 February 2024 20: 56
                The Maidan and the coup were carried out by the West and this was the beginning of an attack on Russia; Putin did not want Donbass to return to Russia at all. Therefore, what kind of military assistance could there be for the militias?
                1. -1
                  29 February 2024 21: 17
                  Quote: staer-62
                  Therefore, what kind of military assistance could there be for the militias?

                  laughing
                  Well, yes, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, grads, howitzers, MANPADS - these were all trophies won by the militias of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. laughing
                  Well, in general, the level of naivety is understandable.
                  Although I agree that VVP did not intend to take Donbass into the Russian Federation, it was quite his intention to make a buffer zone independent from Ukraine, and also use it as a bargaining item.
                  1. 0
                    1 March 2024 03: 33
                    Prove where the video is? This dispute between Russian and Ukrainian bloggers has been going on for a decade now, and Ukraine is losing.
                    1. -2
                      1 March 2024 08: 52
                      Quote: staer-62
                      Prove where the video is?

                      What is there to prove? What is white, what is white, what is water, and what is the moon shining at night? fool Yes, yes, people with sticks and machine guns captured tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and howitzers in battle, and all with ammunition for 8 years of combat. wassat
                      No one has talked or shown anything about military trade and vacationers.
                      And the video is full of the same brand new Grads, BM-21s from the militia in 2015, on a KAMAZ chassis, which the Armed Forces of Ukraine never had and couldn’t have had.
                      In general, it’s clear. I see it here, I don’t see it there. Hard case. Talk/treatment=useless. lol
                      1. +1
                        5 March 2024 06: 51
                        Where is the video????????????????
  11. -2
    29 February 2024 06: 17
    Tens and hundreds of thousands of young people killed and even more mutilated are not a very good alternative to the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
    Why was it created at all?

    The author correctly points out that the issue is not the nuclear weapons themselves or even radioactive contamination, but the political and military consequences. WAR IS ART. A smart person will be able to use what he did not have before, but a stupid person will not be able to use what smart people left him as an inheritance.
  12. +1
    29 February 2024 06: 38
    We've already started talking about nuclear weapons... Although, there's nothing to hide, sometimes you really want to. Okay, emotions aside, let's figure out why. Yes, very simple. Sometimes there is no feeling of an adequate response to the actions of the fascists, especially to attacks on civilians. And you need to answer in such a way that where it came from (and, if possible, where it was ordered from), it would be easier to build a pool than to bury a hole.
    1. +2
      29 February 2024 07: 05
      This is true!
      We know that at the beginning the SVO only swung with the words “strike first”... And then a very strange thing followed: “We haven’t started yet.”...
      The use of strong means has always been an art, but here it is even difficult to understand what the politician wanted to say.
  13. -4
    29 February 2024 06: 44
    It remains to add that given the achieved accuracy levels of modern air attack weapons, the need for tactical nuclear weapons looks doubtful.

    Yeah, just remember the assaults on the fortified areas of Donbass. Another thing is that on the territory of Ukraine (read our territory, even if it is under someone else’s control) the use of nuclear weapons in any form is unacceptable, but in other territories that we conditionally do not need nuclear weapons is very possible (even desirable). Only with the help of a nuclear ram from tactical nuclear weapons of low and especially low power will Russia be able to fight NATO on equal terms and reach the shores of the North Sea
    1. +2
      29 February 2024 07: 09
      I always believed that smart people in any country can do anything... But the road “to the highest” is barred for them. We are more afraid of them than the atomic bomb.
      1. -6
        29 February 2024 09: 28
        Thank you for sharing your personal experience. Tell us where and when the road to the highest levels was ordered for you. This is necessary so that we can assess what Russia has lost in your person.
  14. +9
    29 February 2024 06: 53
    . There is a risk that such actions will alienate the few true allies who are currently willing to support us

    Chinese comrades may not understand. And if China turns away, then our “import-substituted” economy will suffer such a blow that it will be stronger than any Western sanctions. Because there will be nothing to replace China with. Neither import nor export.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 09: 48
      the economy will receive such a blow that it will be stronger than any Western sanctions. Because there will be nothing to replace China with

      but they would be able to live in reality, and not in fictitious fairy tales about themselves and their country... and even without televisions you can’t mess up the population...
      1. 0
        2 March 2024 14: 23
        Rhetoric about oneself may not be correct, but dependence on someone is normal and not shameful in our world. Including China, it is dependent on many, etc. Markets, chains, interactions.
        Which often limits them in some actions. And they are afraid of Western sanctions. It's all right.
        And yet, yes - Europe turned out to be more dependent on the resources of the Russian Federation than the Russian Federation is on Europe. Yes, we had to do zig-zags and that’s normal. But these are the facts. At least the Russian Federation turned out to have such feints, Europe - not so much, it comes back to them non-stop economically.
  15. +3
    29 February 2024 08: 03
    If we want to completely bury Russia, then, of course, we can bang.

    I think that in our country there will be a large number of people who will oppose the authorities who make such a decision. But what will happen to the country later - only God knows, and that’s not a fact....
  16. +3
    29 February 2024 08: 48
    “Every time strikes by Western-made long-range missiles raise a reasonable question in society: isn’t it time to respond?” - well, that’s nonsense. Discussions about the use of tactical nuclear weapons, which will lead to enormous political costs, in comparison with which the tactical benefits of use are incommensurable. And this despite the fact that the AP and the Verkhovna Rada are standing intact in Kyiv, they are passing laws on mobilization... They should have hit there at the very beginning - there would have been fewer deaths on both sides.
  17. +1
    29 February 2024 09: 00
    The West has become too relaxed and accustomed to the fact that, in classical concepts, nuclear weapons are limited to the function of a “ceremonial sword.” With this sword you can draw “red lines”

    The West rubs its hands and fills its pockets, looking at the carnage that it has created with the hands of its puppets. And permission for the Papuans to ya.o. he didn't give...
  18. -1
    29 February 2024 09: 16
    If you move 100m a day, then yes. And so, consider Avdeevka and its assault with tactical nuclear weapons and since they took.... The number of forces, means and CT of bombs and shells. And so - 3-4-5 TYAZ fired and you can leave it smoking in the rear and move on. And fusion is relatively environmentally friendly.
  19. -4
    29 February 2024 09: 18
    It is necessary to put into service BZHRKs armed with various types of missiles. This is a terrible weapon and a worthy answer to the West! There was such a project, but again it remained just a project. Meanwhile, such a platform could carry not so much strategic missiles but also tactical ones, could carry out covert launches, and would be difficult to detect even from satellites
  20. +1
    29 February 2024 09: 21
    It seems to me that our use of tactical nuclear weapons is practically an extreme measure if the Khinzirs are already trampled into Crimea and Rostov. And of course, when NATO gets involved in the conflict.
    The use of a single charge of tactical nuclear weapons, in my opinion, is only meaningful in outer space above 404, with the aim of suppressing satellites and all communications. But we will also have a connection. Here we need to plan an immediate strike by our army against a disorganized enemy. But simply razing one conditional Koksokhim and part of Avdeevka to the ground will only anger the enemy and untie the hands of the Westerners, and will also make our country truly an outcast for the whole world. I'm sure of this.
    1. -1
      29 February 2024 11: 03
      Shoigu announced 200 tons of bombs per day.... you can easily convert 1-200 kt into 300 bomb... from the UMPC.
      4-5-6 such bombs and there is no such super fortification, Koa Avdeevka. You don’t even need to take it, we walked around it and moved on.
    2. -1
      29 February 2024 21: 43
      Quote: Zoer
      if the Khinzirs are already heading to Crimea and Rostov

      No one will get into trouble either for Rostov, or even more so for Crimea. And for Moscow in general too. Being the president of half the country, so to speak, is also an option, just ask Assad.
      1. 0
        1 March 2024 08: 43
        Quote: Negro
        Being the president of half the country, so to speak, is also an option, just ask Assad.

        Russia cannot have “half the country,” especially as a result of external aggression. For Crimea, Rostov, Kaliningrad, it will fly immediately, because this is already a full-scale WW3. There is absolutely no chance for the Russian Federation and its government to resist the US-NATO with conventional weapons, everyone who has a brain understands this. But you don’t understand this. Moreover, there is such a document as doctrine, and it is binding. So stop fantasizing.
        Well, Assad, what about Assad? He had no options, literally at all. He survived with most of the country only thanks to Russia. So there is no use asking him. Here you need to ask Gaddafi and Hussein.
        1. 0
          1 March 2024 17: 46
          Quote: Zoer
          Russia cannot have “half the country,” especially as a result of external aggression. For Crimea, Rostov, Kaliningrad, it will fly right away, because this is already a full-scale WW3

          Why do you think so?

          Currently, the Constitution of the Russian Federation contains 5 (+Sevastopol) regions that are not considered the territory of the Russian Federation outside its borders. Of these five regions, three are only partially controlled, and in two of them (Zaporozhye and Kherson regions of the Russian Federation) regional centers are not controlled.

          If there are not 3 such “problem” regions, but some other number, nothing much will change.

          Unlike you, over the past 25 years I have not seen any signs that among the leadership of the Russian Federation there are those who want to go to heaven ahead of schedule.
          1. 0
            1 March 2024 22: 05
            Quote: Negro
            Unlike you, over the past 25 years I have not seen any signs that among the leadership of the Russian Federation there are those who want to go to heaven ahead of schedule.

            You are as blind as you are stupid)))
            Firstly, the current leadership of the Russian Federation has been placed in such conditions that if they do not get to heaven early, they will have to fight here to the last. The same arrest warrant issued by the ICC for our guarantor is an example of this.
            Secondly, the statements of the same VP about - they will simply die, and we will go to heaven, should also lead to negative thoughts.
            Thirdly, at all times in the Russian state the most destructive consequences were brought by internal strife, and on the contrary, cohesion was pulled out in the most difficult times. So this is well understood at the top.
  21. +1
    29 February 2024 09: 34
    The apocalyptic power of nuclear weapons is a myth that has kept major countries from going to war for decades.
    Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which burned in 1945, were built with houses made of wood, bamboo and paper.
    Nuclear winter was designed on “supercomputers” weaker than a modern cheap telephone, and even modern supercomputers with thousands of weather stations and satellites predict the weather only a few days in advance.
    In the early 1950s, the United States conducted a series of Desert Rock exercises consisting of dozens of nuclear tests with troops maneuvering after a nuclear explosion. In one of them, volunteer officers sat in a trench without personal protective equipment at a distance of 1.6 km. from a 40-kiloton air explosion. After the explosion, they felt the heat like in a sauna and retreated to the rear; there were no consequences for them.
    Residents of Las Vegas in the 1950s went to see nuclear tests as a tourist attraction - explosions were carried out 100 km away. from the city. https://bigpicture.ru/jadernyj-turizm-v-ssha/

    The use of tactical nuclear weapons by Russia will lead to three consequences:
    1. It will show that nuclear weapons are very powerful, but they are just one of the types of weapons. Fear of new use will significantly decrease, and this will significantly weaken the position of the country that owns the world's largest arsenal of nuclear weapons.
    2.Both the United States and European NATO countries will begin to rearm, allocating the same funds as during the Cold War. There, it will be supported by both the population and large capital, which will at least support conditional LGBT people, so that society switches attention from social inequality to fictitious problems, or at least distract the population with an external threat. The use of nuclear weapons by Russia is like Japan’s strike on Pearl Harbor: the operational effect was very great, but Japan did not sustain the arms race. Before the war, she already lived with a military budget, the imperial army and navy were comparable to the United States in many respects, but the Japanese forgot that the United States has 10 times the GDP... And the total GDP of NATO countries and the United States' eastern partners is 20 times greater than ours .
    3. China, India and even Iran and North Korea will turn away from us (under pressure from China).
    And in the year 2035, after the maximum rearmament of the missile defense system, the re-equipping of the satellite constellation, the build-up of nuclear arsenals, an ultimatum will be announced to Russia, or maybe they will do without ultimatums and simply strike.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 09: 54
      An ultimatum will be announced to Russia

      In principle, I agree with everything, except for ultimatums... in fact, one large country is already controlled by proteges of globalists, so all these possible ultimatums and supposedly hostile rhetoric are just information noise!
    2. +2
      29 February 2024 11: 21
      Quote: Ivan Seversky
      The apocalyptic power of nuclear weapons is a myth that has kept major countries from going to war for decades.
      Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which burned in 1945, were built with houses made of wood, bamboo and paper.
      Nuclear winter was designed on “supercomputers” weaker than a modern cheap telephone, and even modern supercomputers with thousands of weather stations and satellites predict the weather only a few days in advance.
      In the early 1950s, the United States conducted a series of Desert Rock exercises consisting of dozens of nuclear tests with troops maneuvering after a nuclear explosion.

      Hmmm...
      Did your/their exercises with dozens of nuclear explosions take into account, at least in some way, the effect of using them in cities? Consequences of fires, chemical emissions from production? What model is used to scale the consequences from 10 explosions of 40 Kt to 15 THOUSAND, 40-250 Kt? How did your and their exercises take into account the global failure of humanity’s entire satellite constellation, the loss of all high-tech industries, supply chains, and food supplies?
      So yes, I don’t think even 1/10 of the planet’s population will die directly from nuclear explosions. But further famine, destruction, epidemics, and simply violence for the sake of the remaining resources will reduce the population very, very much. Humanity will slide, at best, into the locomotive era, if not lower. And yes, no one will care about state borders anymore.
      This is the myth of the apocalyptic power of nuclear weapons.
  22. +2
    29 February 2024 10: 00
    Naturally, we need to talk about the possibility of application everywhere. But not at the official level.
  23. -1
    29 February 2024 10: 10
    I liked the article. I consider it insane to use nuclear weapons under current conditions.
  24. +3
    29 February 2024 10: 27
    IMHO, all these arguments from the “propagandonists” from above that we need to die look simply like PR and impotent anger that everything (as always) did not go according to plan.

    Neither Medvedev, nor Simonyan, nor Kadyrov, nor the army of polished “Ekperds” will stand in a battered armored vehicle with a machine gun when there is a fire nearby...
    Warm offices, cozy cars, and a swarm of bodyguards around, away from the LB.
  25. 0
    29 February 2024 10: 49
    This is clearly visible in 1945, when, after the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki, America immediately lost the support of its allies.
    1. +1
      29 February 2024 14: 21
      In 1945, there was no NPT, nor was it technically possible for anyone other than the United States to produce nuclear weapons. And now there is.
  26. -3
    29 February 2024 10: 54
    Quote: Stas157
    . There is a risk that such actions will alienate the few true allies who are currently willing to support us

    Chinese comrades may not understand. And if China turns away, then our “import-substituted” economy will suffer such a blow that it will be stronger than any Western sanctions. Because there will be nothing to replace China with. Neither import nor export.


    If China turns away, it will have an enemy behind it. Does he need it?
    1. -3
      29 February 2024 13: 37
      China is much more worried that after this the use of nuclear weapons will become the norm, which will nullify all its numerical superiority, and that after this nuclear Japan, Taiwan and Korea will appear nearby. He doesn't need such an "ally".
  27. -1
    29 February 2024 11: 18
    “The question of the use of tactical nuclear weapons is associated with irreparable foreign policy risks.” This is, of course, true.
    But. The issue of non-use of tactical nuclear weapons is associated with irreparable foreign policy risks
  28. +1
    29 February 2024 12: 02
    1, The Hiroshima bomb was compared to 2 thousand ordinary bombs, each weighing 1 ton. But this is during the bombing of the city. On the battlefield, a 10 kiloton bomb is equivalent to 4 thousand 155 mm shells or 200 tons of ammunition (Ralph Lep) against infantry in the trenches.
    2. For tactical nuclear weapons, some targets can be hit by air and naval bases, large ships at sea (aircraft carrier, air defense cruiser), nuclear submarine, B-2 strategic bomber, flying into space to strike all enemy electronics and power lines. In the latter case, there is almost a 100% guarantee that the strike cannot be interfered with and that there will be no direct destruction or casualties on the ground.
  29. 0
    29 February 2024 12: 12
    In addition, as an example, it is possible to disable detection equipment with a high-altitude nuclear explosion and then sink an aircraft carrier with ordinary missiles or drones.
  30. 0
    29 February 2024 12: 59
    There must be a threat of use. Especially in the context of NATO plans for Kaliningrad and Crimea. Those. if they climb, they get it right away. No delays on calls.
  31. -2
    29 February 2024 13: 38
    “Every time strikes by Western-made long-range missiles raise a reasonable question in society: isn’t it time to respond?”

    What society? A handful of frenzied patriots who don’t think about the consequences? According to polls, only 16% of Russians would approve of the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
    1. -1
      29 February 2024 14: 23
      According to polls

      Well, according to polls, some people have high ratings, and there is nationwide support for the “events”... laughing
      1. -1
        29 February 2024 14: 26
        These are surveys from completely different categories.
  32. +1
    29 February 2024 14: 13
    TNW is a candy that is reserved as the “star of the dessert.” Now, if our “European partners” move from talk to action and send their troops into Ukraine, organize a “no-fly zone” and bring in a bunch of airplanes that will be based there, then it will be time for dessert. Well, or at the moment when all this begins on a large scale.
    In the meantime, there is no need for dessert - we haven’t really finished the first one yet.
    1. -1
      29 February 2024 14: 24
      then it's time for dessert

      and that’s when 10000% no one will decide!
  33. 0
    29 February 2024 14: 17
    But the main deterrent was not sanctions. The main thing was the promise made in front of the whole world and secured by the reputation of the “great powers”.
    Do not use nuclear weapons against those who do not possess such weapons.

    Those who do not understand the consequences talk about the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
    The only limitation on the proliferation of nuclear weapons is the NPT. The technical capabilities of dozens of countries to create nuclear weapons have long been no longer an obstacle. Moreover, if the NPT is destroyed, a market for nuclear weapons will emerge, when countries capable of producing them will sell them to their allies, like any other weapon.
    The countries of the nuclear club are least interested in this, since their opponents will automatically receive nuclear weapons, and their own nuclear weapons will lose value. But the NPT exists for a reason.
    An important addition to the treaty is the resolution of the UN Security Council of June 19, 1968 and identical statements by the three nuclear powers - the USSR, the USA and Great Britain on the issue of security guarantees for non-nuclear states parties to the treaty. The resolution provides that in the event of a nuclear attack on a non-nuclear state or the threat of such an attack, the Security Council and, above all, its permanent members possessing nuclear weapons, will have to act immediately in accordance with the UN Charter to repel aggression; it also reaffirms the right of states to individual and collective self-defence in accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter until the Security Council takes the necessary measures to maintain international peace and security. The statements made by each of the three Powers at the adoption of this resolution indicate that any State that has committed aggression with the use of nuclear weapons or threatened such aggression should know that its actions will be effectively repelled by measures taken in accordance with the UN Charter; they also proclaim the intention of the USSR, the USA and Great Britain to render assistance to that non-nuclear party to the treaty who is subjected to a nuclear attack.

    Later there were similar statements from France and China.
    And this is the case when the agreement is not empty paper. The nuclear powers will have an alternative - either in a short time they will find themselves in a nuclear world in which their special status will disappear and their nuclear potential will depreciate - or take truly effective measures against the violator of the agreement. And this applies to both the States and China.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 21: 52
      Quote from solar
      any state that has committed aggression using nuclear weapons or threatens such aggression must know that its actions will be effectively repelled by measures taken in accordance with the UN Charter; they also proclaim the intention of the USSR, the USA and Great Britain to provide assistance to a non-nuclear party to the treaty that is subject to a nuclear attack.

      Yes.

      Another thing is that these measures can be understood as both an expression of concern and a full-scale nuclear strike by all or the main members of the nuclear club against a violator, so to speak, of the Sukharev Convention.

      Since the leaders of a number of nuclear-armed countries are currently demonstrating a frightening mental and mental state, no one can confidently predict which option will be chosen.
      1. 0
        1 March 2024 01: 43
        And there is an alternative - either effective measures (and this is not necessarily nuclear strikes) or the collapse of the NPT with consequences unpredictable for everyone. To launch a nuclear strike on a non-nuclear state is to create problems for yourself, not solve them.
        1. 0
          1 March 2024 06: 19
          Quote from solar
          To launch a nuclear strike on a non-nuclear state is to create problems for yourself, not solve them.

          In theory, yes. But in theory, let’s say launching anti-ship missiles at warships of a NATO member country should also be an exceptionally bad idea. However, we see this being done and nothing happens.
          1. 0
            1 March 2024 09: 27
            This bad idea is far from the idea of ​​a world in which there will be dozens of nuclear states, for many of which nuclear weapons will be the main weapon.
            1. 0
              1 March 2024 17: 49
              Quote from solar
              This bad idea is far from the idea of ​​a world in which there will be dozens of nuclear states, for many of which nuclear weapons will be the main weapon.

              Yes. But on the other hand, if the current statesmen, so to speak, cannot solve minor problems, what reason can there be that they can cope with major ones?
  34. +1
    29 February 2024 15: 38
    Regarding tactical nuclear weapons, I think this: if used, then now, without waiting until thousands of Russian military personnel die, or not touch on this issue at all, exclude it from the rhetoric. The time when it was possible to bluff ended in the spring of last year
  35. +1
    29 February 2024 16: 18
    The resolution stipulates that in the event of a nuclear attack on a non-nuclear state or the threat of such an attack, the Security Council and, above all, its permanent members possessing nuclear weapons, will have to act immediately in accordance with the UN Charter to repel the aggression

    There will be no attack on NATO troops if they enter Ukraine:
    1. Attack on a non-nuclear state. Since NATO has 3 nuclear states.
    2. There will be no aggression against NATO since Ukraine is not a member of NATO.
    In other words, Russia will not violate anything. Moreover, the military doctrine of the United States and Russia provides for the use of nuclear weapons when there is a corresponding threat to national security.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 16: 22
      International treaties signed, especially through the UN, are always primary, in contrast to national doctrines. If Russia signed this agreement on the issue of a nuclear weapons strike against a non-nuclear state, then everything is sad
      1. 0
        29 February 2024 19: 07
        International treaties signed, especially through the UN, are always primary, in contrast to national doctrines

        Well, yes, this is the case in all puppet countries, and then they whine that they were deceived...
      2. 0
        29 February 2024 19: 51
        Contracts are documents that are voluntarily adhered to. World War 2 and the behavior of the United States, which has its own rules, only confirm this.
        1. 0
          29 February 2024 20: 36
          Quote: Alexey Lantukh
          Contracts are documents that are voluntarily adhered to. World War 2 and the behavior of the United States, which has its own rules, only confirm this.

          Money is also paper that is used to pay voluntarily. And what?

          Treaties reflect the existing balance of power.
          But it happens that even if there is strength, but no intelligence, they voluntarily betray their allies under the Warsaw Pact and voluntarily leave Germany. And then they voluntarily “return the lands” that were also scattered voluntarily three decades ago.
        2. +1
          1 March 2024 01: 55
          Contracts are documents that are voluntarily adhered to.

          Or forced. The NPT and its annex are precisely the case when it is forced.
    2. 0
      1 March 2024 01: 46
      NATO is not a state.
      As for doctrines, international agreements have the highest priority. But in this case we are not even talking about the formal side of the issue; we are talking about preserving the NPT.
  36. 0
    29 February 2024 16: 32
    Quote from solar
    The nuclear powers will have an alternative - either in a short time they will find themselves in a nuclear world in which their special status will disappear and their nuclear potential will depreciate - or take truly effective measures against the violator of the agreement.

    How will Russia's nuclear potential be devalued if 25 or 55, rather than 5, states have nuclear weapons? How did Russia's special status help avoid NATO intervention in Ukraine? And what is the use of this statute if NATO troops intervene in the Northern Military District?
    What threat will there be if Ukraine and Georgia have nuclear weapons? And what is stopping then from equipping the DPR, LPR, Ossetia and so on with nuclear weapons?
    I think the world will only become safer.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 23: 41
      So far, NATO’s intervention in Ukraine is the same proxy war that the United States and the USSR waged with each other for decades, throwing in equipment, intelligence, specialists, etc. to everyone who fights their enemies. And no one hit anyone with a nuclear weapon for this.

      The more nuclear powers there are in the world, the higher the likelihood that any minor conflict will escalate into an exchange of nuclear weapons. Moreover, in the event of the use of nuclear weapons, others will say “what can’t we do?” - and will also begin to be used in local conflicts. Which won't end well.
    2. +1
      1 March 2024 01: 51
      How will Russia's nuclear potential be devalued if 25 or 55, rather than 5, states have nuclear weapons?

      Very simple - many states that have bad relations with Russia will also go nuclear. Japan, Poland with Ukraine and so on (cross out Bulgaria :)). Russia will become the same as everyone else in this matter. And why does she need this?
      I think the world will only become safer.

      Yes, a world full of nuclear weapons will definitely become safer (No).
      If Ukraine had nuclear weapons and the same military doctrine as Russia, the question of their use would already be raised. Is this what you call a safe world?
  37. +1
    29 February 2024 16: 51
    Oleg. Good afternoon. You have mixed up the indices of “Malachite” and Amethyst”, the first P-120, the second P-70. Neither one nor the other was ever equipped with Megaton warheads. It simply would not fit in either in terms of mass or dimensions. Nuclear warhead for both missiles - TK-55, its power according to Western data is 200 kt, the real one most likely lies between 100 kt and 150 kt. Trident SLBMs were never equipped with W-78 nuclear launchers, they were equipped with Mk-12A warheads from the Minuteman ICBM 3", the Tridents were equipped with W-76 nuclear weapons in the Mk-4 warheads.
  38. -1
    29 February 2024 17: 24
    How did TsIPSO get worried and scared? Let me reassure you: the use of tactical nuclear weapons in the conditions of the Northern Military District is possible under the direct directive of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, and this will only follow with the direct participation, even of a limited contingent of troops from NATO countries. Statements by some VO experts that after this the earth will be uninhabitable are fake. This effect will occur after the use of nuclear weapons, and this is a completely different story. So TsIPSO pray that the alliance soldiers remain in their barracks.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 19: 48
      So TsIPSO pray that the alliance soldiers remain in their barracks.

      ... and also do not engage in bloody terrorist attacks using long-range missiles, otherwise you will receive a response in the form of tactical nuclear weapons.
  39. +1
    29 February 2024 18: 16
    Nuclear weapons are, of course, more effective than any conventional weapon. There is no need to bomb a fortified area for months, exposing your own people to a retaliatory strike. One rocket and you can move on.
    And this confidence that we must comply with agreements, and then we will not be attacked, is not based on anything at all. They attack those who show weakness.
    Whether China will turn away - that’s what you need to ask them. It may very well be that he needs a strong ally who is ready not to retreat from NATO.
    No one should have any doubt that we will not be afraid to use it, and perhaps the most obvious way is to use it somewhere.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 19: 45
      China, and not only others, will know about our determination.
    2. 0
      29 February 2024 23: 42
      China has already officially stated that the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine is unacceptable. He absolutely does not need nuclear Taiwan, Korea and Japan at his side.
    3. 0
      5 March 2024 16: 04
      NakedMan
      There is no need to bomb a fortified area for months, exposing your own people to retaliation
      Yeah, right now! If the fortified area is well built, they will still sit in it after a vigorous strike. There's more than one person there! Without a doubt, someone will die (such as observers), but the majority, if the fortified area goes deep underground, will calmly sit out more than one blow
  40. -2
    29 February 2024 18: 35
  41. 0
    29 February 2024 18: 49
    Quote: Kmon
    China is much more worried that after this the use of nuclear weapons will become the norm, which will nullify all its numerical superiority, and that after this nuclear Japan, Taiwan and Korea will appear nearby. He doesn't need such an "ally".


    You don't need an ally - you'll get an enemy behind your back.
    There are enemies everywhere around China, the only reason it hasn’t disappeared is Russia.
    1. 0
      29 February 2024 22: 42
      Agree. Everyone considers China “wise”, but it has managed to get into trouble with almost everyone, it’s easier to list neutrals and allies: these are Russia, North Korea and Mongolia
    2. 0
      29 February 2024 23: 45
      In fact, it is we who are heavily dependent on China, not the other way around. The Chinese will feel neither hot nor cold from our hostility, but if all parallel imports are cut off... They are much more concerned about the consequences of the use of nuclear weapons. So much so that they officially declared the inadmissibility of the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
  42. 0
    29 February 2024 19: 43
    Moreover, there is no military need for this.

    Yes, of course, after such a publication you understand that the USSR General Staff was full of fools, that they gave the Ministry of Medium Machine Building the task of creating tactical nuclear weapons, and tested them, including with troops.
    Meanwhile, the summer offensive of the Ukrainian troops could have been stopped not at the cost of hundreds of dead and thousands of wounded Russian soldiers, but by 5-10 air tactical nuclear strikes.
    As for pathological radiophobia and simply stupidity on the nuclear issue, I would advise reading two VO articles on nuclear weapons:
    https://topwar.ru/98741-yadernye-strahi-mnimye-i-nastoyaschie-chast-1-ya.html
    https://topwar.ru/98808-yadernye-strahi-mnimye-i-nastoyaschie-chast-2-ya.html
    1. -1
      29 February 2024 23: 48
      TNWs were created in case of the last war in history - the Third World War, when the political consequences would no longer matter.
      1. 0
        1 March 2024 00: 20
        You are confusing it with strategic strikes. And tactical nuclear weapons were used in the USSR and in Central Asia and the Ukrainian SSR when extinguishing wells
        1. +1
          1 March 2024 00: 54
          I'm not confusing, they were intended for the war in Europe. To clear the way for tanks during the push to the English Channel (or at least to the western border of Germany) and to respond to the inevitable tactical nuclear strikes by NATO (another thing is that ultimately everything would have ended in a strategic exchange. That’s why TMB did not take place). Do you think there is a need for anti-radiation measures on Soviet equipment? Because they knew that they would have to walk through radioactive plains.
  43. -1
    29 February 2024 21: 59
    At current troop densities, if the mass death of civilians is not allowed, the effectiveness of one-time actions with Tiao strikes will be ineffective. 10kt over the fortification means 100 people killed, 300 wounded, 2 destroyed tanks and 3 infantry fighting vehicles.
    To achieve an effect, the use of special warheads must be measured in tens and hundreds. It would take a dozen for one Avdeevka.
    1. 0
      1 March 2024 16: 10
      In general, there is no need to cover the entire Avdeevka with dozens of nuclear bombs. In extreme cases, somewhere alone. It is logical that there would be breakthroughs with tactical nuclear weapons outside the city and encirclement. Well, I looked on the Internet about the destruction radii of tactical nuclear weapons. At 10 kt, the radius of complete destruction is about 1 km, partial destruction is 1,5 km. Particularly strong ones and those buried no closer than 500 m from the epicenter can survive, but they will also be stunned. Those. 4 such bombs make a hole 4 km along the front and more than 3 km in depth, and then attack aircraft can freely break through behind enemy lines, since the radiation level during an air explosion will be low.
  44. +1
    29 February 2024 22: 42
    In other words, a kilometer from the epicenter, the impact of any explosion weakens a billion times.
    Sounds too loud. More precisely, to increase the damage radius by 10 times, the charge power must be increased 1000 times, from a kiloton to a megaton, for example.
    It was found that the scale of destruction could have been achieved using 2 kilotons of conventional aerial bombs.
    But this would require 2000 B-24 bombers at the same time if the target is Japan. If the target is nearby - three times less. Quite a lot too.
    The overwhelming majority of the energy released during the Fat Man explosion was spent on heating and evaporating objects located near the epicenter. Contrary to military necessity, the buildings were “disassembled” into individual atoms.
    Not in spite of it! Is there a difference: the bridge is destroyed or the bridge has evaporated? Did the roof of the plant collapse or did the plant evaporate? Is the airfield's runway damaged or has the airfield evaporated? The missile missed or the target evaporated (the power of the charge was increased to compensate for the huge CEP of the missiles). Etc.
    And it is better to punish the command post in the Cheyenne Mountains with a 25MT warhead, and not to pick at it with bunker punches.
  45. 0
    29 February 2024 23: 55
    A 100% guarantee of success is required. Failure to carry out an order at one of the stages of the command chain, a preemptive strike on a carrier, interception by a Patriot anti-missile missile, or a technical malfunction of a nuclear charge (fell and failed to explode on neutral or enemy territory!).


    OlegGGG! laughing
    That's what I thought. what the civilian wrote...

    If someone who had anything to do with nuclear weapons wrote the article, he would not allow such verses.
    One of the principles is that the ammunition must work - the target must be destroyed! Yo...
    In order to do this, they roll out not ONE, but several weapons. It's called GUARANTEED destruction. This is the first one.
    Second, when striking with nuclear weapons, the military calculates all possible moves of the enemy(s). And they are ready to fend off unwanted movements... So that’s the “nuclear colonel”... ;)))))))))))))
  46. 0
    1 March 2024 13: 15
    Quote: Kmon
    The more nuclear powers there are in the world, the higher the likelihood that any minor conflict will escalate into an exchange of nuclear weapons. Moreover, in the event of the use of nuclear weapons, others will say “what can’t we do?” - and will also begin to be used in local conflicts. Which won't end well.

    But the world experience is exactly the opposite. Nuclear weapons deterred parties and escalated conflicts. And more conflicts and their escalation will be avoided if more parties have nuclear weapons.
    For example, aggression against Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria and so on could have been avoided if these countries had nuclear weapons.
  47. 0
    1 March 2024 13: 24
    Very simple - many states that have bad relations with Russia will also go nuclear. Japan, Poland with Ukraine and so on (cross out Bulgaria :)). Russia will become the same as everyone else in this matter. And why does she need this?

    And how will this threaten Russia? Russian nuclear potential was restraining the United States and NATO, but do you think that it will not restrain Poland and Ukraine? On the contrary, they will behave more independently of NATO and the United States and more responsibly.
    Maidan in Ukraine and the arrival of the Nazi regime could have been avoided if Ukraine had defeated an independent nuclear state.
    Explain why the US and NATO nuclear guarantees are better for Russia than the nuclear weapons of these states (Japan, Poland, Ukraine)... add whoever you want?
    1. 0
      1 March 2024 18: 15
      Explain why the US and NATO nuclear guarantees are better for Russia than the nuclear weapons of these states (Japan, Poland, Ukraine)... add whoever you want?

      If Russia launches a nuclear attack on Japan, and regular flights of Tu-95 strategic bombers near Japan remind the Japanese that this is possible, then the Americans will definitely not launch a nuclear attack on Russia in response, despite US guarantees of a nuclear umbrella for Japan. Trump, as President of the United States, did not hush up this topic and invited Japan to create its own nuclear arsenal. Japan is the 3rd industrial power in the world with a population of 126 million versus 146 million in Russia (and 99% of the population are Japanese, and not some Tajiks or Armenians), has all the necessary nuclear technologies and has acquired nuclear weapons as a guarantee of non-use of nuclear weapons from outside Russia can easily annex the Kuril Islands, having the 3rd most powerful fleet in the world.
  48. 0
    1 March 2024 15: 48
    Quote: Good evil
    Quote: Aerodrome
    yah ??? is there “other radiation”?

    Imagine, yes! Because the explosion of a nuclear charge and the thermal explosion of a reactor are far from the same thing! And nuclear reactions are a very multifaceted thing, there are not much fewer types of them than chemical reactions, and the results of reactions (isotopes) too. And the types of radiation are also different - alpha, beta and gamma - they also manifest themselves very differently and are not equally dangerous.
    But here's something else.
    As a worthy response, there are proposals for the one-time use of non-strategic nuclear weapons.

    Do not rely on a ONE-TIME use of nuclear weapons. Any, even the smallest explosion of tactical nuclear weapons will serve as a trigger for a full-scale nuclear war of all with all. For if “why do we need the whole world without Russia” (C), then other leaders of other countries say approximately the same thing. In addition, if a decision is made to use Tiao at our highest levels, then this decision, through all sorts of leaks, will immediately become known on the other side (which is not surprising, judging by the results of many decisions). And it will be possible to carry out a preemptive strike. And away we go...

    And why are you and people like you always afraid of something, looking around, cowering and broadcasting in a thin voice: But they give us THAT! And AHA, hello to all of us...ugh, it’s disgusting to read this pathetic, defeatist, flawed logic of thinking! Remember, THEY (Western fascists) are fat, greedy, have forgotten what hunger, devastation, deprivation, lack of everything and everyone is, never, do you hear?! These colonial predators and scoundrels will NEVER dare to dare, unless we give them a reason to exchange our money! Therefore, it is necessary to beat hard, scary, monstrously unthinkable, and then in 50+ years our non-brothers will thank us for the bomb, as the Japanese do now, licking those who killed 300 thousand + of their fellow citizens.
    Remember one thing - we will be strong and unimaginably cruel, everyone will recognize us and shut up...
  49. 0
    1 March 2024 23: 58
    I recently watched Vrazhina’s program here - some kind of talk show on “First Ukrainian” - you need to know the enemy in... The face. So, a bunch of “experts” there quite seriously discussed that soon the Amerofascist friends will hand over to them the Tomahawk missile system, and the task of the local “physicists” is to make the filling for these missiles from Cobalt-60, previously prepared in the reactor by the suicide bombers (in the vigorous loaf, the amero-cannibal Szilard proposed using Cobalt-59, it would reach Cobalt-60 in an explosion, and this is a very, very unpleasant thing. Well, the scum wants to direct these warheads towards N. Tagil, because this city doesn’t let them sleep. So relatively real nasty things can be done without the use of tactical nuclear weapons
  50. 0
    3 March 2024 19: 31
    It's better to hold this trump card. And you can gouge the enemy’s energy system quickly and by conventional means. A country without energy is not a fighter. Let them prove otherwise. And the first thing is to knock out the management and turn off the television. All this is possible without nuclear weapons. We must not scare, but do it.
  51. 0
    4 March 2024 04: 37
    There is a lot in the comments about a “clean bomb” and a “dirty thermal explosion” - so let me remind you, in simple words, that the powerful gamma of a clean explosion gives excellent secondary radioactivity in the environment, with the same excellent isotopes in air, soil and water...
  52. 0
    4 March 2024 18: 32
    Quote from Msi
    In Chernobyl, a thermal explosion of the reactor,

    Good morning. hi Tell us as a person who is very close to the front line. Wouldn't our fighters mind if we used Tiao in Ukraine?

    Well, yes, the command constantly discusses orders and votes in military units...
  53. 0
    5 March 2024 07: 48
    After the use of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe, a lifeless radioactive desert will lie from the Baltic to the Black Sea, which will separate Russia from Western Europe for decades.
  54. -1
    5 March 2024 16: 00
    Amazing! Well, really, the ending is correct.
    Reliable application is entirely up to the organization. No one prepares just one piece of ammunition - there is always a safety net so that the strike is sure to take place. Again, very important operations are very carefully prepared.
    About the white flag. Look, Hamas does not give up, although they are being hammered no worse than with nuclear weapons. If we take a hypothetical Ukraine, and even assume that Zelensky fled or threw out a white flag, this does not mean at all that military operations will stop, because there are other forces and other control centers. At the same time, it is obvious that this very Ukraine will not be able to either prevent a nuclear strike or give a worthy response to it.
    A very strange remark about the “physics of a nuclear explosion.” Even the smallest explosion (if it is not in the desert) or underground has catastrophic consequences. The author famously ignored both the firestorm and radiation damage.
    Although, I agree, a nuclear strike is unlikely to solve EXACTLY COMBAT tasks better than “conventional weapons” of comparable power and accuracy.
    It is extremely difficult to judge the consequences of “someone dropping the first bomb.” People simply believed in the catastrophic nature, and then all assessments of the consequences were based on rational criteria.
    But the Americans themselves made a bunch of films about “mad men with a vigorous loaf.” But this is really scary. And just like that, the first nuclear explosion on the battlefield can break this psychological barrier, and madness will burst out. Therefore, the consequences of such an action are impossible to predict.
    That is why it is better that nuclear weapons continue to remain in stockpiles.
  55. +2
    6 March 2024 00: 12
    There is a lot in the comments about a “clean bomb” and a “dirty thermal explosion” - so let me remind you, in simple words, that the powerful gamma of a clean explosion gives excellent secondary radioactivity in the environment, with the same excellent isotopes in air, soil and water...


    Already commented. I looked in. Almost a week, and discussions are ongoing. And in the end, the use of tactical nuclear weapons is “no good”. Well, of course, it is undesirable. Where to go? The Western economy is many times more powerful.
    . As lawyer and public figure Tatyana Montyan notes, Kyiv’s Western partners are now making titanic efforts to reconfigure their industrial capacities for military products. If the Ukrainian Armed Forces currently have a shortage of ammunition, it will not last long.
    “In fact, Russia has a window of opportunity of about six months, until the West’s efforts in the production of weapons begin to have a greater impact on the battlefield. I would not be skeptical about the potential of Western industry,” Montyan said in her Telegram channel.
    According to her, “it would be wise to use the current advantage in firepower for something more than an assault on a couple of regional centers.”
    Montyan explained: “Because the Saloreikh (the Kiev regime - Ed.) deeply sings for Avdeevka, and for ten more Avdeevkas too. The main goal - inflicting maximum damage on Russia - remains unchanged, and it’s definitely not about exchanging for some symbolic ruins will become."
    There is a current tactical advantage of the Russian Armed Forces, but how significant is it? Are there sufficient reserves? They'll show you in six months. If there is no success, then tactical nuclear weapons. What about radioactivity issues???

    Radioactive contamination certainly exists with any type of nuclear explosion, but with a ground explosion it is large - tens of times higher than with an air explosion, since it makes the ground radioactive. In particular, when testing the “Tsar Bomb” on Novaya Zemlya with a capacity of 60 megatons with an air explosion at the epicenter on the ground, within a few hours people were working to assess the consequences of this explosion, since the level of radiation was acceptable, and after a few months it was already within normal limits. So these are tens of megatons, and not tens of kilotons, or even less with tactical ammunition.

    The General Staff of the USSR was not full of fools who gave the task to the Ministry of Medium Machine Building to create tactical nuclear weapons and tested them, including with troops.
    Meanwhile, the summer offensive of the Ukrainian troops could have been stopped not at the cost of hundreds of dead and thousands of wounded Russian soldiers, but by 5-10 air tactical nuclear strikes.
    As for pathological radiophobia and simply stupidity on the nuclear issue, I would advise reading two VO articles on nuclear weapons:
    https://topwar.ru/98741-yadernye-strahi-mnimye-i-nastoyaschie-chast-1-ya.html
    https://topwar.ru/98808-yadernye-strahi-mnimye-i-nastoyaschie-chast-2-ya.html
  56. +2
    7 March 2024 16: 19
    Quote: “It remains to add that given the achieved accuracy levels of modern air attack weapons, the need for tactical nuclear weapons looks doubtful.”...(?) This is very doubtful. The use of nuclear weapons on the borders of the NATO terrorist entity in the form of the former Ukraine will be able to guarantee that the bandits terrorizing Ukrainians will be cut off from supplies.
  57. 0
    7 March 2024 18: 04
    Quote: futurohunter
    Amazing! Well, really, the ending is correct.
    Reliable application is entirely up to the organization. No one prepares just one piece of ammunition - there is always a safety net so that the strike is sure to take place. Again, very important operations are very carefully prepared.
    About the white flag. Look, Hamas does not give up, although they are being hammered no worse than with nuclear weapons. If we take a hypothetical Ukraine, and even assume that Zelensky fled or threw out a white flag, this does not mean at all that military operations will stop, because there are other forces and other control centers. At the same time, it is obvious that this very Ukraine will not be able to either prevent a nuclear strike or give a worthy response to it.
    A very strange remark about the “physics of a nuclear explosion.” Even the smallest explosion (if it is not in the desert) or underground has catastrophic consequences. The author famously ignored both the firestorm and radiation damage.
    Although, I agree, a nuclear strike is unlikely to solve EXACTLY COMBAT tasks better than “conventional weapons” of comparable power and accuracy.
    It is extremely difficult to judge the consequences of “someone dropping the first bomb.” People simply believed in the catastrophic nature, and then all assessments of the consequences were based on rational criteria.
    But the Americans themselves made a bunch of films about “mad men with a vigorous loaf.” But this is really scary. And just like that, the first nuclear explosion on the battlefield can break this psychological barrier, and madness will burst out. Therefore, the consequences of such an action are impossible to predict.
    That is why it is better that nuclear weapons continue to remain in stockpiles.

    We are no longer talking about Ukraine. Ukraine ended with the coup d'etat and the replacement of the clown guards there under the government of foreign special forces. Contacting crooks in Minsk was a terrible mistake by VVP. There was no one to talk to, neither Merkel nor the Traitors.
    1. 0
      7 March 2024 21: 21
      Well, judging by the leaked information about the text of the agreement, the agreement made sense. Kyiv would give up Crimea, which is very good for Russia, and Kyiv would get rid of the unreliable population and could join the EU. Donbass was subject to further negotiations. Russia would not have fought, and there were no useful troops at that time. There was no talk about Zaporozhye, Kherson and Kharkov. But the adventure did not work out, Russia had to fight. Who knew that Zeliboba was an English spy.
      According to Ukrainian intelligence, Russia has a reserve of about 150 thousand and an unclear state of weapons. NATO provides great assistance to Ukraine in the war with Russia. If you believe this, then Ukraine will exist in any case, and the issue of tactical nuclear weapons is on the agenda and by the fall it will be clear whether to strike or not to strike.
  58. +1
    8 March 2024 01: 49
    The most sobering nuclear strike, to which they will clearly react, and will understand that there is a red line and a very subtle hint that such a strike, but on a larger scale, will happen on their territory, it will be a strike somewhere in the Lvov region. It is the blow in the Lvov area that will very quickly make the European Union think about whether the ovichnika is worth the candle and whether it is better not to look askance towards the east
    1. +1
      8 March 2024 14: 39
      It is the blow in the Lvov area that will very quickly make the European Union think about whether the ovichnika is worth the candle and whether it is better not to look askance towards the east

      I think a warning strike on target No. 1 is a ground strike on the Yavorovsky training ground with an easterly wind. The radioactive cloud will cool the fevered brains of Russophobes in Poland and Germany.
  59. +1
    8 March 2024 09: 20
    [quote][/quote] But the adventure did not work out, Russia had to fight. Who knew that Zeliboba was an English spy.
    According to Ukrainian intelligence, Russia has a reserve of about 150 thousand and an unclear state of weapons. NATO provides great assistance to Ukraine in the war with Russia. If you believe this, then Ukraine will exist in any case, and the issue of tactical nuclear weapons is on the agenda and by the fall it will be clear whether to strike or not to strike.[/quote]
    Once again Ze is a spy, there is a dictatorship in the country. People are caught on the streets and sent to the next world or to the front. Foreigners are in power and foreigners will bring in more troops. There is no Ukraine anymore, but the best thing is for it to remain. A territory governed by someone unclear, if you look at Biden half-dead. They even bully the old man!
  60. +1
    9 March 2024 02: 34
    Thank you for the article! An interesting and well-worn opinion.
    Not an expert on nuclear weapons, but magic wands usually don’t exist. And even more so, they do not voluntarily refuse them.
  61. +2
    9 March 2024 07: 46
    Tactical and strategic differ mainly in their media.
    The Soviet People spent a lot of effort and resources to create thermonuclear weapons.
    And now the current “government” uses nuclear weapons not as a means of solving problems of National Security, but as a bargaining argument.......
    If only our “command” were concerned about the effectiveness of the SVO. Not in terms of “negotiations”, but in terms of saving the lives of OUR (and not our) Guys. The use of nuclear fuel would have been decided long ago.
    It is necessary now (and in the Future) to create a “gray zone” along the western borders of the former Ukraine.
    It is the use of TN for this purpose that solves ALL problems.
    Our Genius headquarters is afraid to touch even the bridges and tunnels on the western border.
    It looks like they paid a lot of money for loyalty.
    And our guys pay for this loyalty with their lives.......
    1. 0
      9 March 2024 11: 55
      And our guys pay for this loyalty with their lives.......

      I have already expressed myself several times: Russia now faces a choice: continue to fight for a long time, painfully and lose about 100 thousand of our soldiers killed + wounded, or still use tactical nuclear weapons against the most important targets in Ukraine and the LBS and force the enemy, along with NATO, to capitulate. So far there are few intelligible answers even to VO. There is opposition, and, apparently, mainly from supporters of TsIPSO. But the number of supporters of the use of tactical nuclear weapons is growing. We are waiting for summer. NATO's military assistance is growing. By the fall it will be clear whether Russia will cope with Ukraine without tactical nuclear weapons.
      1. 0
        10 March 2024 08: 59
        "Will Russia cope with Ukraine without tactical nuclear weapons"???
        I'm sure he can handle it.
        BUT!!! A simple example for the concept.
        I’ll give you a knife (would you like a Japanese katana for courage) and give you the task of cutting down some wood. Of course, immediately think of a chainsaw. True, a chainsaw is noisy and not entirely environmentally friendly. But the main thing is the end result.
        That's how it is at the Front.
        And in the end result, the QUESTION of the “Gray” zone between Russia and NATO will still be prominent.
        1. 0
          10 March 2024 16: 00
          "Will Russia cope with Ukraine without tactical nuclear weapons"???
          I'm sure he can handle it.

          I'm not talking about whether I can handle it or not. Of course, it will cope somehow, but: what territories will Ukraine be left with? And the fact that Ukraine will remain hostile to us is clear to the horse. Putin said that he does not intend to conquer all of Ukraine. And most importantly: I spoke out about the loss of our soldiers. You yourself are for what: to fight for a long time, hard and at the same time lose 100 thousand of our soldiers or avoid tactical nuclear weapons to end the war faster with minimal losses.
  62. 0
    10 March 2024 04: 04
    The question is, why the hell are tactical nuclear weapons needed in the current conflict? I think the usual resources that exist will suffice, especially since not all of them have been used!
    1. 0
      10 March 2024 16: 01
      What resources are you writing about? Human?
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  64. 0
    17 March 2024 21: 54
    Quote: Alexey Lantukh
    Well, judging by the leaked information about the text of the agreement, the agreement made sense. Kyiv would give up Crimea, which is very good for Russia, and Kyiv would get rid of the unreliable population and could join the EU. Donbass was subject to further negotiations. Russia would not have fought, and there were no useful troops at that time. There was no talk about Zaporozhye, Kherson and Kharkov. But the adventure did not work out, Russia had to fight. Who knew that Zeliboba was an English spy.
    According to Ukrainian intelligence, Russia has a reserve of about 150 thousand and an unclear state of weapons. NATO provides great assistance to Ukraine in the war with Russia. If you believe this, then Ukraine will exist in any case, and the issue of tactical nuclear weapons is on the agenda and by the fall it will be clear whether to strike or not to strike.

    ... Everything is somehow marginal and wrong. The agreement of the Minister of Culture merged the Russians in Little Russia, betrayed how Moscow betrayed the Russians in the Baltic states. The army may not have been strong, but the people in dill were not driven out by the Nazis. Those who led the way did not die: Zakhar, Givi, Motor and many others. Kharkov, Odessa and other Russian cities were filled forever.
  65. 0
    17 March 2024 21: 55
    Quote: Aleksandral
    The question is, why the hell are tactical nuclear weapons needed in the current conflict? I think the usual resources that exist will suffice, especially since not all of them have been used!

    ... What resources do you see in front of you?
  66. 0
    18 March 2024 10: 55
    The use of tactical nuclear weapons will have the opposite effect. This will allow the West to also give Kyiv tactical nuclear weapons and weapons capable of carrying and using them. They will not understand the choice of target. The shelling of Donetsk, Belgorod, Shebekino speaks about this. And they will attack peaceful people and there will be many casualties.
  67. 0
    April 19 2024 13: 04
    Before discussing tactical nuclear weapons, use conventional weapons! For example, put warheads on decommissioned ICBMs with 40 tons of conventional explosives and hit the Beskydy tunnel.
    .
    In the meantime, talk about the use of tactical nuclear weapons is a sign of cowardice at the top of the country. They are afraid to fight for real, they are afraid to win, or rather, to win at too great a cost. They are afraid of spending billions of reserves and losing export markets. They are stingy and petty, as a result the war drags on, bitterness increases, and expenses grow and grow. In the end, we will still have to spend all our reserves (not to go to The Hague, like Milosevic and the Serbian generals) and we will still be kicked out of the markets, but there will be no victory even at that price.
    They want peace, they scare everyone with tactical nuclear weapons, but no one is afraid. On the contrary, everyone understands that these conversations are taking place INSTEAD of the production of weapons and strikes with conventional weapons. And they continue to fight. But if the army had been given a quarter of a million shells a day instead of 8 thousand (and Prigozhin instead of Shoigu), the war would have already ended.
    .
    The Kremlin's current strategy will inevitably end in the use of tactical nuclear weapons, but this will not be a victorious blow, but a gesture of despair. They have no guts to deliver a winning blow in time.
  68. 0
    April 21 2024 11: 42
    Quote from Msi
    yah ??? there is "different radiation"

    Aerodrome, speaking of you, it’s close to you to reduce the background to measure at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant... wink

    And don't worry either. The Anglo-Saxons will make reservations for you there, in Chernobyl. See you later. Or you think that you are better, you will be appreciated. Hello from 90×?
  69. 0
    2 May 2024 13: 23
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