Starlink communications in the Russian Armed Forces: risks, opportunities, consequences

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Starlink communications in the Russian Armed Forces: risks, opportunities, consequences

At the beginning of February 2024, messages began to appear on various Internet resources and in Telegram channels that certain units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) began to actively use Starlink satellite communication terminals during combat operations. It is not known for certain whether this is true and the number of Starlink and RF BC terminals (if they exist at all), as well as the tasks for which these terminals are used.

Nevertheless, information about the appearance of Starlink terminals in the Russian Armed Forces caused active discussion in the media space of all interested parties - Russia, Ukraine and Western countries, including the United States. It got to the point that Elon Musk had to deny the involvement of SpaceX in the supply of Starlink terminals to Russia.



There is one caveat - according to statements by the SpaceX company, Starlink satellite communications does not work on the territory of Russia within the borders until February 2022, however, it works over the former regions of Ukraine that became part of Russia as a result of the referendum held in September 2022, as well as over the water area Black Sea, potentially allowing both warring parties to use Starlink capabilities.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) make full use of Starlink, for them it is one of the critical components that ensures the ability to withstand the Russian Armed Forces. In fact, it is Starlink that supplies the APU with global, encrypted, noise-resistant high-speed communications, which not only provides voice communications and the transmission of text messages, but also the ability to transmit large amounts of graphic data and video images.

We should not forget about the use of Starlink terminals as part of Ukrainian weapons systems.

Firstly, this is the use of Starlink terminals on unmanned kamikaze boats (BEC), which have become an extremely serious threat to the Black Sea Fleet (BSF) of the Russian Navy, as well as Russian infrastructure in the Black Sea, including the Crimean Bridge.


Ukrainian BEC kamikaze, presumably with a Starlink terminal antenna (circled in red)

Secondly, with the help of Starlink, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) are controlled, such as Baba Yaga bombers, which have a significantly greater range and noise immunity compared to dronesusing standard radio communications.

It can be assumed that if SpaceX extends the Starlink operating area to the entire territory of Russia, then strikes by Ukrainian high-precision weapons long range will become an order of magnitude more effective and dangerous - placing airplanes and helicopters in open areas will be tantamount to their voluntary destruction, and the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of Ukraine will significantly increase the number of strikes delivered to critical nodes of Russian infrastructure.

Now, presumably, we can use the enemy’s weapons, or more precisely, the weapons of the enemy’s American collaborator, against himself.

What benefits will the use of Starlink satellite communications provide to the Russian Armed Forces and what risks does it carry? What will be the consequences of using Starlink satellite communications for the Russian Armed Forces?

When considering, we will assume that the information about the appearance of a certain number of Starlink terminals in the RF Armed Forces is reliable.

Let's start with the risks.

Risks


It is necessary to understand that even if Starlink terminals appear in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces, their number will be limited - we will not be able to achieve parity with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, to which thousands of Starlink terminals are centrally supplied. In addition, Starlink terminals report their location to SpaceX (this is necessary for their operation), and it is unknown where this data flows later.

From this we can conclude that there is no influence on providing communications to the RF Armed Forces Starlink terminals will not provide assistance, since there will be few of them; in addition, their use will be associated with significant risks for the RF Armed Forces.

If there are few terminals, only middle and/or senior officers will use them, and then, in the event of a leak of their coordinates, the Armed Forces of Ukraine can use the received data to carry out targeted strikes with high-precision weapons and decapitate regiments/brigades/divisions of the RF Armed Forces. In addition, the enemy may open the locations of military equipment and manpower, ammunition depots and fuel and lubricants (fuels and lubricants).

It is necessary to take into account that the Armed Forces of Ukraine may not strike immediately, in order for the Russian Armed Forces to form a false opinion about the safety of using Starlink communications, but after some certain time, when a sufficient number of confirmed installation sites for Starlink terminals appear, when a significant number of objects of the RF Armed Forces will be inflicted massive strike using all types of weapons available to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

It is possible that such a strike could be used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces as a basis for another attempt at a counteroffensive in the area where, “thanks to” the use of Starlink terminals, they will be able to inflict maximum damage on the Russian Armed Forces. After all, a “counter-offensive” is vitally important for Ukraine - it will confirm the “creditworthiness” of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, that is, the likelihood of ensuring victory with appropriate logistical support from the United States and other Western countries.

Capabilities


Despite the existing risks, Starlink satellite communications, when used correctly, can provide the Russian Armed Forces with quite interesting opportunities and advantages. Of course, we are talking about the symmetrical use of Starlink terminals on UAV-bombers, long-range kamikaze UAVs and BEC kamikazes.


Ukrainian kamikaze UAV "Baba Yaga" controlled via Starlink

The assumption about the possibility of such use of Starlink terminals is based on two assumptions.

The first is that there are a lot of Starlink terminals in Ukraine, so ensuring control over all of them can be quite difficult.

The second is the proximity of the units of the Russian Armed Forces and the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the line of combat contact (LCC), the complexity of constructing combat formations and their constant updating (changing the configuration of the LBC).

Potentially, this will allow the Russian Armed Forces to equip UAV-bombers with Starlink terminals, as the Ukrainian Armed Forces do, to carry out strikes deep in enemy territory - even Ukrainian markings can be applied, so that if the UAV is destroyed, the enemy may not even understand that it was attacked by the Russian Armed Forces - it will be written off to "friendly fire". Starting near the LBS, a UAV-bomber with a Starlink terminal can reach the enemy’s near rear using roundabout routes and ensure the destruction of equipment and manpower, command posts, ammunition and fuel depots, arriving reinforcements and damaged equipment evacuated to the rear for repairs.

It is possible that in this way it will be possible to ensure the confirmed destruction of HIMARS launchers (PU) or Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM).

The Russian Armed Forces will gain even greater capabilities if Starlink terminals are installed on aircraft-type kamikaze UAVs with a range of about 1 kilometers or more. In this case, the destruction of particularly important targets with confirmation can be carried out already in the depths of the territory of Ukraine - the same HIMARS launchers, Patriot air defense systems, combat aircraft (F-16 fighters may soon arrive in Ukraine) and helicopters at airfields, as well as much more.

Now We can potentially ensure the destruction of targets with confirmation deep in enemy territory only by using a combination of a long-range UAV carrier with a communications repeater and a Lancet-type kamikaze UAV, and this is vitally important so that complex and expensive equipment is no longer given to Ukraine.

And, of course, Starlink terminals can also be installed on BEC kamikazes. Near Ukraine itself fleet no, so there’s really nothing to sink there, except to ensure the destruction of port facilities BEC-kamikaze with high-power combat units, but you can hit their allies – warships of Western countries – with absolute impunity, we previously discussed this in detail in the material “The destruction of British Navy warships by unidentified unmanned boats is a signal to all NATO countries.”.


Only such pictures can force Western countries to retreat; jackals do not understand persuasion - only brute force

Given the situation in the Middle East, it is possible not only supply the Houthis with anti-ship missiles (ASMs), but also to strike the warships of Western countries themselves with the help of BEC kamikazes delivered to the region by some inconspicuous transport ship and controlled through the Starlink network. Assembled from components from Western countries, controlled through American Starlink terminals, kamikaze BECs can be used not only against warships, but also against the infrastructure of our real enemies.

Aftermath


Here everything depends on a sense of proportion. The use of Starlink terminals by the Russian Armed Forces in the short term can cause significant damage to both Ukraine and Western countries, of course, if they are used wisely.

What does reasonable mean?

This means - do not use them to organize communications between units of the Russian Armed Forces, and in the case of using Starlink terminals to control UAVs and UAVs, take precautions - launch UAVs and UAVs near the LBS or away from the “old” Russian borders, take Starlink terminals to away from the location of operators, use VPN tunnels and other methods of masking traffic, and so on and so forth.

But the main thing is that the possibility of using Starlink communications should not lead to delays or suspensions in the creation of Russian global high-speed broadband space communication networks; moreover, their development and deployment should become one of the priorities of our science and industry, since communication systems like Starlink are one of the cornerstones stones ensure national security in the near and medium term.
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  1. +4
    21 February 2024 04: 31
    and then, in the event of a leak of their coordinates, the Ukrainian Armed Forces can use the received data to carry out targeted strikes with high-precision weapons and decapitate regiments/brigades/divisions of the RF Armed Forces.
    Leaks... The coordinates of user terminals are necessarily transmitted to Starlink satellites! Otherwise, the system simply would not work.
    Therefore, frequent, very frequent, changes in positions are necessary!
    1. +15
      21 February 2024 04: 59
      creation of Russian global high-speed broadband space communication networks
      That's what's a priority!
      1. +6
        21 February 2024 07: 01
        They can also specially sell terminals, specially prepared Stralink terminals.
        And yes. The country urgently, yesterday, needs its own Starlink.
        1. +2
          21 February 2024 11: 32
          Quote: Civil
          And yes. The country urgently, yesterday, needs its own Starlink.

          Yesterday all the turbopatriots laughed at the “pseudo engineer” Musk, his return stages of the launch vehicle and the same StarLink. Now suddenly there was no time for laughter.
          Nothing has changed in Mother Russia for centuries. Since the time of Lefty, and even earlier, everything has been the same...
        2. +1
          22 February 2024 00: 17
          Quote: Civil
          They can also specially sell terminals, specially prepared Stralink terminals.

          Starlink terminals are freely available and can be purchased in any country for our needs. Just like household appliances. And use it on UAVs and BEC. On UAVs for reconnaissance and target designation at any depth above enemy territory. And yes - the Houthis should have a lot of BEC with high-power warheads and such satellite communication terminals. British and American ships and vessels must sink in all waters, because the Houthis are a harsh people.
    2. 2al
      +3
      21 February 2024 10: 32
      Not quite so, in the case of using mobile terminals for mobile communications, the authentication and authorization protocol in the Starlink network differs from stationary systems, although of course there is a tracking capability, but it can be spoofed as in the case of UAVs.
      1. 0
        21 February 2024 10: 46
        Quote: 2al
        Not quite so, in the case of using mobile terminals for mobile communications, the authentication and authorization protocol in the Starlink network differs from stationary systems, although of course there is a tracking capability, but it can be spoofed as in the case of UAVs.

        This is what we are talking about tracking, because the SL satellite needs to point the beam at the subscriber, and without this communication is impossible.
        1. 2al
          +7
          21 February 2024 11: 16
          The “beam” is not aimed at a specific subscriber, and the satellite itself moves quite quickly in orbit; the Starlink system is a low-orbit constellation of satellites. The subscriber is in the receiving/transmitting area of ​​different satellites at different times, Starlink uses a dynamic protocol for routing messages from/to the subscriber and allocating bandwidth (network resources).
          1. +1
            21 February 2024 11: 29
            Quote: 2al
            The “beam” is not aimed at a specific subscriber, and the satellite itself moves quite quickly in orbit; the Starlink system is a low-orbit constellation of satellites.

            Indeed, as many as three transmitting antennas with a phased array serve precisely for pointing at subscriber terminals.
            1. 0
              22 February 2024 21: 19
              Indeed, as many as three transmitting antennas with a phased array serve precisely for pointing at subscriber terminals.

              One satellite cannot keep up with all the terminals.. But the antenna of the user terminal is precisely what tracks the satellites..
              1. 0
                23 February 2024 15: 30
                Quote: kiborg
                One satellite cannot keep up with all the terminals.. But the antenna of the user terminal is precisely what tracks the satellites..

                Not one, but no less than two, and for a quite reasonable number of ATs, and that’s why electronic beam control is used.
      2. DO
        +1
        21 February 2024 12: 41
        Quote: 2al
        Starlink network authentication and authorization protocol
        To prevent damage from the use of the RF Armed Forces, the Starlink networks, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Starlink operator have the theoretical opportunity to compile an updated list of registration data of terminals that should operate on the territory of Ukraine. The Starlink operator can filter the authentication and authorization of connected terminals according to this list, in the mentioned territory.

        Quote: 2al
        tracking is possible, but it can be spoofed as in the case of UAVs.
        You can spoof the GPS terminal's receiver readings. However, doesn’t the Starlink network have the ability to independently determine the coordinates of the terminal with an accuracy of approximately 20 kilometers, since it uses directional antennas in its work?
        ===
        If the above assumptions turn out to be correct, the costs of equipping Russian UAVs with Starlink terminals will be in vain.
    3. +1
      21 February 2024 13: 07
      Why the leaks? Their interactive map shows all these stations and their coordinates, both their own and those used by us. So you need to use them where you yourself are not, at a good distance.
      1. +1
        21 February 2024 13: 10
        Quote: SKVichyakow
        Why the leaks?

        So I wrote this in a sarcastic way...
    4. +2
      21 February 2024 13: 27
      How did you like the photo of Colonel of the Soviet Army Signal Corps Elon Musk?
  2. +4
    21 February 2024 05: 20
    In principle, the Russian satellite system Gonets solves similar problems. But the frequencies are known to the enemy and immediately reveal the location of our troops. For our DRG and PAN, with the extensive NATO electronic intelligence system, using Gonets satellites is very dangerous. Maybe that’s why so many of our prisoners end up in the hands of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Therefore, the use of Starlink terminals may be an ideal solution for our reconnaissance groups and UAVs in the rear of the Ukrainian Reich.
    1. +3
      21 February 2024 05: 42
      Quote: Vita VKO
      In principle, the Russian satellite system Gonets solves similar problems.

      Not even close. The main advantage of Starlink is the continuous and information-rich exchange of data; the Messenger cannot do this, at least in terms of the number of satellites, but speaking of the principles of operation.
      1. +1
        22 February 2024 16: 43
        That's right, under Rogozin, money was spent not on satellites, but on launching an actress into space and building a skyscraper that no one needed in Fili. The result is natural.
  3. +3
    21 February 2024 05: 49
    Starlink terminals have appeared in the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces and this is a fact.
    Until yesterday, I would have been confident that our army was using the Starlink network. But after watching “Total 2023 in Space”, I became convinced that Starlink terminals are just routers for home use. The Russian Federation has begun to create broadband Internet, at least for the needs of the army. Yes, ours buy Elon Musk’s terminals in the Middle East, but reflash them and connect them to their satellites. And in 2-3 years, the military will already be using its analogue “Starlink” everywhere, albeit not on a global scale, like “Starlink”
    1. +2
      21 February 2024 07: 03
      Yes, ours buy Elon Musk’s terminals in the Middle East, but reflash them and connect them to their satellites

      A terminal is the simplest and cheapest element of a telecommunications system. The main cost and complexity comes from repeaters, servers and communication channels between them.
      Your mobile costs $100, but it connects and works through networks worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Same thing with Starlink.
      1. +2
        21 February 2024 08: 19
        Quote: Amateur
        Yes, ours buy Elon Musk’s terminals in the Middle East, but reflash them and connect them to their satellites

        A terminal is the simplest and cheapest element of a telecommunications system. The main cost and complexity comes from repeaters, servers and communication channels between them.
        Your mobile costs $100, but it connects and works through networks worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Same thing with Starlink.

        Not simple. The terminal there is at the level of AFAR technology for 5th generation fighters. Musk simply performed a technological miracle that he was able to make them cheap. When the specifications for the terminals appeared, they shouted that it was physically impossible to make them for less than 20 thousand bucks.
        1. +1
          21 February 2024 09: 04
          Quote: BlackMokona
          Musk simply performed a technological miracle that he was able to make them cheap. When the specifications for the terminals appeared, they shouted that it was physically impossible to make them for less than 20 thousand bucks.

          Musk is cool, but the terminals are never cheap. The cost is simply returned through a subscription fee.
          1. +1
            21 February 2024 09: 52
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Musk is cool, but the terminals are never cheap. The cost is simply returned through a subscription fee.

            According to Shotwell, the terminals are now being sold at a loss. And there the price is $450
            1. -2
              21 February 2024 10: 40
              Quote: BlackMokona
              According to Shotwell, the terminals are now being sold at a loss. And there the price is $450

              Oh, Musk and his engineers are an icon!
      2. +1
        21 February 2024 08: 28
        Behind the $100 mobile is a sophisticated multi-billion dollar semiconductor industry equipped with the latest technology, which sells these mobiles in the millions. It is impossible to make a mobile phone for $100 in any other way. Either it will not cost $100, or it will not be far from the detector receiver, or more often, both together.
    2. +1
      21 February 2024 12: 32
      Quote: Mekey Iptyshev
      The Russian Federation has begun to create broadband Internet, at least for the needs of the army. Yes, ours buy Elon Musk’s terminals in the Middle East, but reflash them and connect them to their satellites. And in 2-3 years, the military will already be using its Starlink analogue everywhere.

      laughing Where do you get this nonsense from? WHAT OUR satellites work with Starlink terminals? In your opinion, we were able to create a network of relay satellites, but the ground-based antennas for them were in no way possible, and therefore we were forced to steal them from Musk? lol
      There is nothing like Starlink in the Russian Federation. Not even at the R&D stage. Not even for military needs.
      1. +1
        21 February 2024 18: 54
        DO NOT rush to conclusions, and so categorically
        1. 0
          21 February 2024 23: 03
          There really is nothing like it. And it is not expected in the near future. The need is colossal not only for the military, but there is nothing to make it out of, and we do not even foresee such a satellite constellation in the near future. Roscosmos just won’t take it out.
  4. +5
    21 February 2024 06: 51
    We need our own broadband communication systems: thus, studying the received terminals will help us: combat use must be limited to one-time operations, making it as difficult as possible for the enemy to detect them and understand where the retaliation came from.
  5. +3
    21 February 2024 06: 53
    Khe khe.

    Some series of Ukrainian attacks began. Just now Skomorokhov found Zircon, but recently Mitrofanov found a starlink.

    The next attack on Musk from the grateful Ukrainian people (more precisely, from their authorities and so-called journalists) went wrong two weeks ago, Comrade Mitrofanov is lagging behind. In Russia, Starlink does not work and will not work; on the territory of Ukraine (within the borders recognized by the United States) it works or does not work by agreement of the company, the Pentagon and the leadership of Ukraine. Organizing the transfer of coordinates of a terminal “unregistered” by the Ukrainian authorities directly to the high-mars installation is a matter of minimal effort.

    It’s not difficult to smuggle a Starlink terminal into Russia; it’s a common household appliance. Another question is how to use it: you can’t log in through a Kazakh VPN, like in Steam. The terminal transmits its coordinates to the satellite; without this, the operation of the electronically directional antenna is impossible.

    On the other hand, they say that a flat, horizontal antenna gets hot, so cats like to lie on it in winter. Also useful.
    1. 0
      21 February 2024 08: 21
      Quote: Negro
      On the other hand, they say that a flat, horizontal antenna gets hot, so cats like to lie on it in winter. Also useful.

      There a special heater works to melt the snow.
      1. +8
        21 February 2024 08: 48
        Quote: BlackMokona
        for the snow to melt.

        No, it was made specifically for cats. Everyone loves cats.
    2. +3
      21 February 2024 16: 42
      Quote: Negro
      On the other hand, they say that a flat, horizontal antenna gets hot, so cats like to lie on it in winter. Also useful.

      And rightly so. And with the advent of flat-screen TVs and monitors, poor cats lost the luxurious heated beds of the CRT era.
  6. +2
    21 February 2024 08: 43
    Quote: Mekey Iptyshev
    Starlink terminals have appeared in the ranks of the Russian Armed Forces and this is a fact.
    Until yesterday, I would have been confident that our army was using the Starlink network. But after watching “Total 2023 in Space”, I became convinced that Starlink terminals are just routers for home use. The Russian Federation has begun to create broadband Internet, at least for the needs of the army. Yes, ours buy Elon Musk’s terminals in the Middle East, but reflash them and connect them to their satellites. And in 2-3 years, the military will already be using its analogue “Starlink” everywhere, albeit not on a global scale, like “Starlink”


    The main arms exhibition is now going on - constantly - on the outskirts and only there, and not in warm rooms with carpets and long-legged girls!
    Therefore, if they say from the localities that they are making contact through Mask, then you can believe it!
  7. 0
    21 February 2024 08: 45
    I somehow missed the news about such damage to the British ship
  8. +11
    21 February 2024 10: 13
    How disgusting it is to read all this... In war, UAVs and radio stations are used almost exclusively made in China, which pumps them into Ukraine, and creates all sorts of obstacles for Russia; it no longer even needs money from our banks, because the Boss said so. Now we are discussing the problem of using Enemy-made terminals as a solution to the problem. Where is yours? The SVO is increasingly reminiscent of a fight between hungry people in the arena, who only have a loincloth of their own and to whom the interested organizers throw either a knife or a slingshot, when they can just devour them, so that they don’t die prematurely and upset the spectators. Show must go on, this is the true motto of the North Military District on a global scale. The 90s came back to us in full measure, when the “elite” tore the body of Russia with its teeth. There is no normal digital communication, almost no space radio reconnaissance, there are only 5 AWACS aircraft, and those are being cut down by the American-Ukrainian fascists. The result is that in 2 years they have not suppressed the air defense of Ukraine, built on the basis of Soviet complexes of the 70s, but what would we do with a more modern air defense? But we developed Vanguards, Petrels, Poseidons. With the money spent on them, it was possible to do all of the above BUT. Cartoons are more important... So we’re discussing how to steal Starlink somewhere, but we don’t have ours. How do you like this, I. Musk?
    1. -1
      21 February 2024 12: 40
      Quote: Yuri L
      Where is yours? The SVO is increasingly reminiscent of a fight between hungry people in the arena, who only have a loincloth of their own and to whom the interested organizers throw either a knife or a slingshot, when they just devour it, so that they don’t die prematurely and upset the spectators.

      Where do you say yours? The censorship will not allow you to answer in rhyme, although I really want to. And so, where will it come from if the country was robbed for 34 years without investing anything in the development of science, industry, education and medicine? We produce so many of our own bearings that there is not even enough for the needs of one AvtoVAZ, and you are asking about nanotechnology.
      1. 0
        21 February 2024 22: 00
        I’m here not only and not so much about the fact that in 34 years the creatures ruined everything, but about the fact that even when Russia seemed to have money in 2000-2010, it was simply spent on the WRONG thing, on Armageddon toys that simply duplicate "conventional" weapons of the Strategic Missile Forces And we entered the Northern Military District in a number of important areas Completely unprepared, and in 2 years, using digital radio communications, Starlink analogues, almost nothing is being done on AWACS aircraft. There is some progress on UAVs (but again on mainly Chinese components), according to optical reconnaissance satellites, one AWACS aircraft was put into operation (and either one or two were lost) Yes, according to tanks, self-propelled guns, towed artillery, things seem to be moving normally (although remember the ROAR of an Official in the Ural city about 100 summer state tests of the "Coalition - SV") It is better not to remember the Black Sea Fleet .. But we, alas, are like the Big, strong giant Cyclops, who lost to little Odysseus due to (acquired) blindness. Why...so? (rhetorical question)
        1. 0
          21 February 2024 22: 43
          Quote: Yuri L
          I’m here not only and not so much about the fact that in 34 years the creatures ruined everything, but about the fact that even when Russia seemed to have money in 2000-2010, it was simply spent on the WRONG thing, on Armageddon toys

          You simply do not understand the depth of the issue, and you put the cart before the locomotive.
          In order for us to create our own coalitions, digital communication systems, and satellite constellations, the country must have a high-tech manufacturing economy. For this, in turn, we need a high-quality education system and a medical system. High salaries for specialists. Competent management of all ranks at all locations. NONE of the above has been present in the Russian Federation for the last 34 years, and over the last 24 years it has been driven deeper and deeper. So answer me, HOW in this situation, even in 10 years, can something change and where will the production of all those necessary high-tech systems appear?
          And I'll tell you more. Nothing much will change, because the same competent leadership in all places, as well as competent, educated people, strongly contradicts the conditions of existence of the existing vertical and the clan system of appropriating the wealth of this country.
          The report is finished.
  9. +3
    21 February 2024 11: 23
    All this is reasoning about a spherical horse in a vacuum. The use of captured communications equipment of this type in modern conditions is a deliberate set-up. The intelligence services can, of course, play these games, but at the level of combat units it is either stupidity or worse. Well, perhaps after a deep analysis and modification of the software, but even then it is dangerous, bookmarks can be protected at the hardware level. But undoubtedly there will be people who want to use it; here, as with smartphones, nothing can be done. Commanders need to strictly control the delivery of such trophies and their non-penetration beyond the company level.
  10. +1
    21 February 2024 11: 37
    Regarding the need for GPS. It is needed, but its transmission and use can be disabled in new firmware versions. It is needed when turning on the terminal to determine the exact time and current location, because having an almanac (data on the location of satellites in orbit) and the exact time, you can accurately focus the AFAR beam on the satellite. The satellites are not geostationary, so their visibility time is only a few minutes. Then it switches to the next satellite, and so on. After the initial determination of the location and exact time, GPS is no longer needed (unless the terminal is moving). You can view orbits, ground stations and others here https://starlink.sx/

    Regarding “bomb the ground base station in Poland, which serves traffic from Ukraine,” it is not only in Poland. There are also in Turkey, etc. Are you proposing to start a war with NATO or your friend Erdogan?

    Regarding the heating of the antenna as an unmasking sign. The heating turns on automatically when the connection with the satellite is lost, and the software does not (yet) look at the actual temperature of the dish. However, heating can be completely turned off in the settings.
    1. 0
      21 February 2024 13: 28
      The heating turns on automatically when communication with the satellite is lost

      why does it need heating?
      1. 0
        21 February 2024 15: 34
        The transceivers themselves heat up.
        There are no fans for cooling or heating systems at low temperatures inside the Starlink dish.
        By narrowing the temperature corridor, we will thereby reduce deformations.
      2. 0
        22 February 2024 11: 45
        For melting snow and ice that collects on a plate
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  12. +1
    21 February 2024 14: 38
    But we can’t hack the Starlink system, may Elon Musk forgive us?
    Receive information about the location of the terminals, intercept, jam and correct the data, in the end you can point their own drones at them, and it will immediately be clear where the enemy makes his crafts?
    Not?
  13. Eug
    0
    21 February 2024 15: 08
    It seems very likely that Russian drones equipped with Starlink terminals (in general) begin to fly in for their own targets (control interception). You need to make your own analogue...
    1. 0
      21 February 2024 15: 19
      Quote: Eug
      You need to make your own analogue...

      Yes sir! I'll start next Monday afternoon!
  14. 0
    21 February 2024 16: 02
    I wrote about Starlink terminals that they are most likely attached to Russian satellites. Better watch lectures about broadband Internet, 3 levels of Rassvet satellites, and the commercial company Bureau1440.
    Roscosmos signed a contract with this company and the first satellites of the Bureau 1440 company were launched into space in 2023.
    And at the Northern Military District, I am sure, they are testing the Rassvet system or something similar for military purposes. Domestic analogue of "Starlink". Why terminals from Starlink. As if you don’t know what kind of bureaucracy we have, there are still contracts, testing of domestic terminals, procurement. It was easier to go buy it in the Middle East, register it as humanitarian aid and start conducting tests.
    1. 0
      22 February 2024 21: 38
      So, are STARLINK terminals compatible with our system??
  15. +1
    21 February 2024 16: 36
    I would also like to quote here one of those who laughed at the mask project.
    In my opinion, it is now unequivocally clear that without such a Russian project, the future of successful military operations is in serious question.
  16. 0
    21 February 2024 16: 38
    Quote: Mekey Iptyshev
    wrote about Starlink terminals that they are most likely attached to Russian satellites

    This is technically impossible to do.
  17. +1
    21 February 2024 17: 07
    On January 8th, the Starlink team successfully sent and received the first text messages using T-Mobile's network via one of Starlink's new Direct to Cell satellites launched 6 days earlier.

    Modified satellites provide LTE communications for unmodified mobile phones.

    Text messages this year, and voice and data communications in 2025.

    Roscosmos will begin creating a direct-to-cell communication system that will allow the user to connect, etc.

    "Bureau 1440" (ICS Holding). So far, only three of its spacecraft have been launched into orbit, but by 2030 their number should exceed 500, and by 2035 – 700 satellites. At the same time, the speed is promised from 50 Mbit/s to 1 Gbit/s, and the satellites will work, including using the direct-to-cell system
  18. 0
    21 February 2024 17: 35
    > and then, in case of leakage of their coordinates
    I have a feeling that all the authors here came from somewhere in the 70s
    encrypt the traffic at the entrance to Starlink, replace the GPS coordinates in the GPS module as the Ukrainians do and there will be no leakage
  19. 0
    21 February 2024 18: 26
    The terminal is very often bought with one’s own money, the price is 5-7 thousand euros, everyone uses it. From soldier to nurse. Both for war (for creating combat chats), and for video calling home, and just for fun.
  20. 0
    21 February 2024 19: 31
    But the main thing is that the possibility of using Starlink communications should not lead to delays or suspensions in the creation of Russian global high-speed broadband space communication networks; moreover, their development and deployment should become one of the priorities of our science and industry...

    And I remembered the memoirs of a research institute employee from Penza that I read in the morning.
  21. 0
    21 February 2024 19: 41
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Quote: 2al
    The “beam” is not aimed at a specific subscriber, and the satellite itself moves quite quickly in orbit; the Starlink system is a low-orbit constellation of satellites.

    Indeed, as many as three transmitting antennas with a phased array serve precisely for pointing at subscriber terminals.


    Perhaps you wrote a little incorrectly about three transmitting antennas with a phased array?
  22. 0
    21 February 2024 20: 01
    Even the markings can be applied in Ukrainian, so that if the UAV is destroyed, the enemy may not even understand that he was attacked by the Russian Armed Forces - he will write it off as “friendly fire.”
    fool
  23. 0
    21 February 2024 20: 18
    At one time, the scientist - physicist Robert Oppenheimer expressed a very smart idea: “You can take a good idea into “arms”, but its embodiment, already in “marble and bronze”, is always fraught with its unpredictable consequences.... So I would also reacted to “Starlink”... Who knows, in detail, what else is “hardwired” into it, besides communication “buns”....
  24. +1
    21 February 2024 21: 16
    In principle, one Tricolor channel is enough to issue orders to all troops in Ukraine. Other options are also possible. Feedback is somewhat limited. But whose is the Tricolor, can we use it?
  25. 0
    22 February 2024 13: 07
    Musk invited Russia to participate in the deployment of the Starlink system, But... we wisely refused. We ourselves have a mustache. Now we are hastily trying to catch up with progress in space. But Musk goes further, technologies are developing. It’s so sad.
  26. 0
    15 May 2024 13: 15
    When was the Colonel's Mask given? It seems like at the beginning of the year I was a major!