From sky to land: radar-guided air-to-air missiles used as part of ground-based air defense systems

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From sky to land: radar-guided air-to-air missiles used as part of ground-based air defense systems

From the very beginning, developers of air combat missiles sought to ensure superiority over the enemy by increasing the range of destruction, maneuverability, a larger number of simultaneously fired targets and improving noise immunity.

The longest-range air-to-air missiles (for example, the Soviet R-37 or the American AIM-120 AMRAAM) use an active radar homing head (ARH), which guides the missile to the target at the final stage of the flight. At the initial and middle sections of the trajectory, inertial and command-inertial control are used.



Recently, there has been a tendency for long-range missiles to be additionally equipped with space radio navigation system receivers. Equipping long-range air-to-air missiles with such devices is associated with the intensive development in the leading countries of the world of networked combat control systems, as well as with the ability of the carrier and the weapon to receive data from other sources, for example, from AWACS aircraft or long-range ground-based radars. The presence of a satellite navigation system allows you to clarify data on the current position of the missile in space relative to the target, the firing aircraft, and other objects and form an optimal flight path.

The advantage of missiles with an ARL seeker is that they can be used against visually unobservable air targets in the “fire and forget” mode, and after launching the missile, the carrier’s maneuverability is not limited. However, such missiles are very expensive; according to information published in American sources, the cost of one AIM-120C-7 missile launcher is about $1,8 million.

Anti-aircraft missile systems based on the AIM-120 AMRAAM missile launcher


Currently, one of the most promising for use as part of anti-aircraft missile systems is a guided missile with an active radar homing head AIM-120 AMRAAM (Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile - advanced medium-range air-to-air missile) .

The development of this missile began in the late 1970s, after US Defense Department experts came to the conclusion that it was necessary to have a long-range missile capable of operating in “fire and forget” mode in the arsenal of American combat aircraft. However, due to technical, financial and organizational difficulties, the process of designing and testing the rocket was delayed, and the pilot batch of AIM-120 was released only in 1988. Development of Air Force missiles and aviation The US Navy occurred in the early 1990s.


The AIM-120 missile is made according to a normal aerodynamic design with an x-shaped arrangement of wing consoles and rudders and externally resembles an enlarged AIM-7 missile launcher. The rocket body is coated with a special paint that can withstand significant kinetic heating.


Layout diagram of the AIM-120A missile

When firing at a long range, the AIM-120 flight path can consist of three sections: autonomous inertial, command-inertial and active radar. The active homing mode can be immediately used in close air combat when firing at a visually visible target. When the target is not observed visually, its search is carried out by the fighter's onboard radar.

After detecting a target using radar, the pilot engages and launches the missile. In this case, the carrier's onboard sighting and navigation system pre-calculates the missile's meeting point with the target. Before launch, the target coordinates are loaded into the inertial navigation system of the rocket from the carrier. After the launch of the AIM-120 missile launcher, the onboard equipment of the carrier aircraft tracks the target’s trajectory. If the target does not maneuver, then no correction commands are transmitted from the carrier. Guidance of the missile in the initial phase is carried out only with the help of its own INS, and then the active radar seeker begins to operate.

According to American data, target detection with an EPR of 3 m² is possible at a distance of up to 18 km. If the target is maneuvering, the fighter's avionics calculates the trajectory, and the corrected coordinates are transmitted to the missile. Using the carrier's onboard equipment, it is possible to simultaneously target up to eight missiles launched at various targets. The on-board equipment monitors for each missile the time remaining until the active seeker locks on the target, which makes it possible to timely turn off the transmission of correction commands.

When active jamming is targeted, the missile equipment in the middle and final sections can switch to a passive mode of targeting the jamming source. The selection of the appropriate guidance mode is carried out based on the “fire and forget” concept, according to which the pilot must get out from under a possible enemy retaliatory attack as soon as possible by switching the missile launcher to the homing mode.

Approximately the same operating algorithm is used on other modern air combat missiles, with an active radar homing head. There is information that the new AIM-120D missile, in addition to the listed control methods, also uses GPS navigation.

Currently, eight serial combat modifications of the AIM-120 missile launcher are known. After the appearance of the first AIM-120A, the following variants improved the on-board equipment, improved noise immunity, used new software, more advanced warheads and proximity fuses, and increased the firing range.


UR AIM-120C

The AIM-120 missile has a length of 3 mm and a diameter of 066 mm. Starting weight is about 178 kg. Wing span – 160 mm (AIM-447C-120). The firing range of the AIM-7C-120 missile when launched from an air carrier reaches 7 km. But when launched from a ground installation, this figure is significantly less.

After the end of the Cold War, the NATO command largely lost interest in ground-based air defense systems, which led to the curtailment or slowdown of programs for the creation of new medium-range air defense systems and the modernization of existing ones.

However, a number of companies continued to proactively develop new anti-aircraft systems, some of which were brought to the stage of serial construction and entered service.

The American-Norwegian NASAMS (Norwegian Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System) is considered a very successful medium-range air defense missile system.

The development of this complex in the first half of the 1990s was started by a consortium of the American company Hughes Aircraft (later absorbed by Raytheon Corporation) and the Norwegian Norsk Forsvarteknologia (now part of the Kongsberg Defense group). In the new NASAMS air defense system, Hughes Aircraft used existing developments in the AdSAMS air defense system, which also included the use of the AIM-120 aircraft missile, which significantly speeded up the testing and development process.

At the first stage of testing, AIM-120 missiles were launched from towed installations of the American Improved HAWK air defense system.


This option made it possible to make the complex cheaper. But subsequently the customer demanded the use of sealed transport and launch containers, which was very important when carrying out combat duty in the difficult climatic conditions of Norway.


In 1995, the Norwegian Air Force signed the first contract for the acquisition of NASAMS air defense systems. In 2005, work began on integrating Norwegian systems into the joint NATO air defense control system and improving their combat characteristics. The upgraded NASAMS II air defense system entered service with the Norwegian Air Force in 2007. NASAMS II control centers are capable of exchanging and processing information in Link 16, Link 11 and JREAP formats.


The NASAMS air defense system includes a multifunctional three-dimensional radar Sentinel AN/MPQ-64F1, a passive optoelectronic station MSP500, an FDC control center and a mobile communication center GBADOC, which allows integration into the upper echelon network for information exchange. Various radars and associated command posts are networked via radio channels, allowing real-time display of the air situation.

The Sentinel AN/MPQ-64F1 radar and MSP500 OLS are based on an army all-terrain vehicle, and the control center and mobile communications center are mounted in standard cargo containers.

The AN/MPQ-64F1 radar, launchers and optoelectronic stations can be deployed at a distance of up to 2,5 km from the control point. The search and sighting equipment of the anti-aircraft battery is capable of simultaneously tracking 72 targets.


Heavy trucks of various types can be used to transport launchers, a control center and a mobile communications center.

The multifunctional high-resolution radar Sentinel AN/MPQ-64F1 has an instrumental range of 120 km and, in addition to target detection, is used for illumination and guidance.


Radar Sentinel AN/MPQ-64F1

In a difficult combat situation, the AN/MPQ-64F1 radar can operate in a highly directional beam mode, which reduces the risk of disclosing the complex’s position and targeting anti-radar missiles.

To search for a target, the MSP500 passive optoelectronic station can also be used, which includes a high-resolution television camera, a thermal imager and a laser rangefinder, which ensures the launch of the AIM-120 missile defense system without turning on the AN/MPQ-64F1 radar.


Passive optoelectronic station MSP500

In this case, the target is captured by the active radar homing head of the missile while still on the ground or after launch, but the affected area with this guidance option is smaller than when working together with a multifunctional radar.

The firing range for the NASAMS II air defense system is 30 km, and the altitude reach is 20 km. When firing AMRAAM-ER missiles, the range and altitude parameters increase by approximately 1,5 times.


NASAMS complexes of various modifications are in service in Norway, the Netherlands, Spain, Finland, Oman, Lithuania and Indonesia. After the events of 2001, one air defense system was deployed in central Washington (Americans sometimes use the unofficial designation MIM-120A). In the fall of 2022, it became known that eight NASAMS II air defense systems were planned to be transferred to Ukraine.

In addition to the NASAMS air defense system, AIM-120 aircraft missiles were also intended to be used as part of the HUMRAAM mobile air defense system (HMMWV+ AMRAAM). In the mid-1990s, the US military explored the possibility of creating a military complex with all elements placed on a Humvee chassis.


The first launches of AIM-120A missiles as part of the HUMRAAM air defense system were carried out in August 1997, and firing at a cruise missile simulator took place in July 1998. During testing, the experimental model ensured interception of targets at a distance of up to 15 km. If new modifications of the AIM-120 were used, the firing range could be increased by 30%.

The Army subsequently abandoned the use of the HMMWV chassis. Relatively lightweight for missiles of this class, self-propelled launchers based on HMMWV received significant damage during the launch of missile defense systems, and the latest version of the air defense system was tested on the chassis of an FMTV truck. However, despite the encouraging test results, the contract for the purchase of mobile air defense systems with AIM-120 missiles never took place.

The version intended for the Marine Corps is known as CLAWS (English: Complementary Low Altitude Weapon System).


In April 2001, Raytheon received a task from the USMC to develop the CLAWS air defense system, intended to replace the outdated MIM-23 Hawk air defense system. The Marine Corps command planned to purchase up to 95 CLAWS combat vehicles.

In 2005, during tests at the White Sands test site (New Mexico), the combat capabilities of the new complex were confirmed when operating in various conditions, including at night. However, in 2006 the order was canceled.

The main reason for abandoning the army HUMRAAM air defense system and CLAWS, intended for the Marine Corps, were financial restrictions associated with the high cost of AIM-120 missiles. In addition, the military criticized the open location of unprotected missiles, which made them vulnerable to external influences and weather conditions.

Improved Israeli Spyder air defense system with Derby missile


Israel is consistently among the countries with access to the most modern types of military equipment and weapons made in the United States.

The Israeli F-15C/D/I, F-16C/D/I and F-35I fighters are armed with AIM-120 AMRAAM long-range missiles. However, the high cost of American missiles and the desire to have their own analogue of a missile launcher of this class led to the fact that in the mid-1980s the Rafael company began developing the Derby air combat missile, which had a certain degree of continuity with the Phiton-4 short-range aviation missile launcher. Derby was first officially presented at the Le Bourget Aerospace Show in June 2001.

According to information announced at international arms exhibitions, the Derby medium-range aircraft missile with an active radar homing head is designed to destroy highly maneuverable manned and unmanned air attack weapons, at any time of the day, from any direction, in the front and rear hemispheres, against the background of the underlying surface and with active electronic countermeasures.

It is especially emphasized that the smaller dimensions and weight than the AIM-120 allow the Derby missile to be used from lighter fighters such as the F-5E and JAS-39 Gripen. An important factor contributing to the success of the Israeli missile with an ARL seeker on the international arms market is its moderate price. Compared to the American AIM-120, the Israeli Derby missile is approximately half the price. The missile was purchased by Chile and India, Singapore and the Philippines.


Israeli UR Derby

The Derby rocket is made using a canard aerodynamic design. The starting weight of the first version was 115 kg; in later modifications it increased by 10–15%. The weight of the warhead is 23 kg. Length – 3,62 m, wingspan – 0,64 m, flight speed – 4 M. Firing range – up to 70 km.

In 2015, production of the improved I-Derby ER (Extended Range) missile began with a firing range increased to 100 km, with a new dual-mode solid-fuel engine and a two-way data link developed by Rafael, through which the fighter pilot or air defense system operator receives information with ARL seeker, both about the target itself and about other targets in the viewed area. This allows you to reorient the missile in a timely manner (for example, if the target has already been hit by another missile or another target is recognized as a higher priority) or to launch additional missiles.

Soon after the start of production of the Spyder air defense system, which initially used missiles with Python-4 and Python-5 IR seekers, the Derby aviation missile defense system with an active radar homing head was adapted for this complex.


Spyder-SR self-propelled air defense missile launcher with Python-5 and Derby missiles

The use of missile defense systems equipped with various types of seekers allows for sequential firing of targets with medium- and short-range missiles. When launched from an inclined launcher of the Spyder-SR air defense system, the maximum firing range of the Derby missile defense system is 40 km.


If the Spyder-MR air defense system uses a Derby missile with an additional launch accelerator and receives target designation from the EL/M-2084 MMR mobile multifunctional radar station, the firing range of a vertically launched missile can reach 60 km.


Antenna post of multifunctional radar EL/M-2084 MMR

The three-dimensional radar with AFAR EL/M-2084 MMR from ELTA, operating in the decimeter frequency range (from 2 to 4 MHz), has an instrumental range of 470 km and can simultaneously track 200 targets. Without antenna rotation, the viewing area is 120 degrees.


The most advanced air defense system in this family is the Spyder-LR, whose ammunition includes vertically launching Python-5 and I-Derby ER missiles equipped with an accelerator. The affected area of ​​this complex at medium altitudes reaches 80 km.

Promising Russian air defense system based on the R-77 air-to-air missile


In the USSR, work on studying the possibility of using aircraft missiles as part of ground-based and sea-based air defense systems has been carried out since the second half of the 1980s. Research conducted by specialists from the State Design Bureau "Vympel" (today part of the Tactical Missiles Corporation) confirmed the possibility of using the R-27 missile launcher to destroy air targets when launched from a stationary launcher located at sea level. However, the collapse of the USSR led to the freezing of research in this area, and they returned to it already in the 1990s.

In 1996, at the Defendory international exhibition in Athens, a model of an anti-aircraft missile with a vertical launch based on the RVV-AE (R-77) air-to-air missile was demonstrated.

Depending on the modification, the R-77 has a firing range of 80–110 km. Flight speed – 4 M. Launch weight – 175 kg. Length – 3,5 m. Diameter – 200 mm. The weight of the warhead is 22 kg. The ARL acquisition range of a target with an EPR of 5 m² is 20 km.


UR R-77

The lattice rudders can fold and, if necessary, automatically open after launch. This ensures minimal transport dimensions (a square with a side of 300 mm), and also solves the problem of reducing the overall effective reflective surface of the aircraft.

Apparently, given the scarce funding of the defense industry, this topic did not find support from the Russian Defense Ministry, and there were no foreign customers willing to pay for the promising development.


At the MAKS-2005 exhibition, a transport and launch container with an R-77 missile launcher was presented, which could be launched from a ground-based towed launcher based on the carriage of the 57-mm AZP-57 (S-60) anti-aircraft gun. The anti-aircraft version of the R-77 was created in collaboration with the Almaz-Antey air defense concern.


Calculations have shown that the firing range of a vertically launched rocket without the use of an additional upper stage will be no more than 20 km. Due to the fact that at that time the R-77 missile had not yet been adopted by the Russian Aerospace Forces and was offered only for export, the creation of an anti-aircraft complex with this missile system stalled.

A version of a bicaliber anti-aircraft missile with an increased diameter of the engine compartment was being developed. However, information on how far this topic has progressed in terms of practical implementation is not publicly available.
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  1. +3
    14 February 2024 05: 13
    A version of a bicaliber anti-aircraft missile with an increased diameter of the engine compartment was being developed. However, information on how far this topic has progressed in terms of practical implementation is not publicly available.

    There may have been a clash of interests between the developers of air defense systems and aircraft missiles. There is no reason for the creators of missile defense systems for “classic” air defense systems to share a piece of the budget pie with the manufacturer of the R-77 missiles.
    1. 0
      15 February 2024 19: 05
      Quote: Tucan
      There may have been a clash of interests between the developers of air defense systems and aircraft missiles. There is no reason for the creators of missile defense systems for “classic” air defense systems to share a piece of the budget pie with the manufacturer of the R-77 missiles.

      SAM and URVV are different types of missiles. Is it possible to use URVV as SAM and SAM as URVV? - it is possible, but it is not optimal in terms of resource consumption.
  2. +4
    14 February 2024 06: 32
    hi
    As always, interesting article!
    The main reason for abandoning the army HUMRAAM air defense system and CLAWS, intended for the Marine Corps, were financial restrictions associated with the high cost of AIM-120 missiles. In addition, the military criticized the open location of unprotected missiles, which made them vulnerable to external influences and weather conditions.

    It seems that the Norwegians are still struggling with open launchers for the AIM120, but they are probably still “suffering it out” (someone under the nickname in LJ “AndreyKraft” is “vacuuming” all open data on the armed forces of the northern countries):
    “As for the MSAM launchers on the only Humvee SUVs in the Norwegian Armed Forces, to date three of the four of these vehicles are in service with an anti-aircraft missile battery and seem to even go to brigade exercises, but so far only in the role of extras. Moreover, in the photo they were not hit in the video, no shooting was carried out" https://andrej-kraft.livejournal.com/238551.html

    The firing range for the NASAMS II air defense system is 30 km, and the altitude reach is 20 km. When firing AMRAAM-ER missiles, the range and altitude parameters increase by approximately 1,5 times.

    It seems that they are already making the third generation of NASAMS, with enlarged launchers (to shove more and so that it flies further smile ): "...the possibilities for further improvement of the performance characteristics of missile defense systems within the dimensions of a standard air defense missile launcher were considered to be largely exhausted, therefore, at the first stage of modernization under the NASAMS III program, the development of new transport and launch containers of increased length was announced....
    ..
    As for the AMRAAM-ER+ missile defense project, since 2019 there has been no other news about its development. Colleague ant_013 is also silent, who in 2018 hinted that now “Norwegian systems are capable of fighting Russian “pseudo-ballistic” Iskanders and simply cruise missiles.” All that remains is to quote material from two years ago:
    The AMRAAM-ER+ missile system is currently being developed with the financial support of the Norwegian Ministry of Defense as part of a joint project of the national company Kongsberg, the American Raytheon and the Norwegian-Finnish Nammo with the aim of increasing the firing range and the ability to combat operational-tactical cruise and ballistic missiles. Little is known about the characteristics of the new rocket. According to the Offiserbladet magazine, it will have two stages, including a launch accelerator and a sustainer engine manufactured by Nammo, due to which the firing range should more than double, to no less than 80-100 km.
    So far this is the only more or less reliable information about the project. In addition, taking into account Nammo’s recent successes in the field of ramjet engines, the significant similarity of the aerodynamic configuration of the AMRAAM-ER/ESSM Block 2 and the promising-initiative Ramjet missile defense system with this type of engine is noteworthy.
    https://andrej-kraft.livejournal.com/265487.html

    IMHO.
    Adaptation of air-to-air missiles. including expensive “fire and forget” homing for air defense is largely an accident and how the solution is inferior to specialized systems: “In 2018, US Army specialists completed an internal analysis of their short-range air defense needs as part of the second phase of the IFPC (Indirect Fire Protection Capability) program. The subject of the study was a comparative assessment of the capabilities of several air defense systems available on the market, taking into account the sharply increased potential threat from cruise missiles of Russia and China.
    On October 31, 2018, a 14-page document containing the results of the study was sent to Congress. From his conclusions it followed that Norwegian or American air defense systems with AIM-120 AMRAAM and AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles were not effective enough in comparison with the Iron Dome air defense system, which by that time had already completed more than 1700 successful interceptions of real targets, including the destruction of unguided missiles, artillery and mortar ammunition, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles.
    https://andrej-kraft.livejournal.com/173321.html

    Will there be an article about KAMM and MIKA? feel
  3. 0
    15 February 2024 01: 31
    I wonder why ours don’t follow the path of separating the radar separately, the launcher separately. After all, this is the survivability of the installation? However, the radar is based on a jeep and where will it go? Only from the roads and shoot.
    1. -3
      15 February 2024 19: 35
      Quote: Mikhail Maslov
      I wonder why ours don’t follow the path of separating the radar separately and the launcher separately.

      Maybe because yours don’t make air defense systems at all?
      1. +1
        15 February 2024 21: 06
        Very witty, but off topic.
        1. -5
          15 February 2024 22: 38
          Quote: Mikhail Maslov
          Very witty, but off topic.

          Why is it off topic? I assume it's like yours. And in Russia all schemes are used: radars, command posts, launchers on different chassis; radar and control unit on one chassis, launcher on another chassis; Radar, control panel and launcher on one chassis.
    2. +1
      16 February 2024 10: 02
      Look at the Buk air defense system.
      All the options are there. There is a car with a radar and a launcher. When Buk is mentioned, this option is usually presented.
      But there is another option where the radar, launcher and control unit are each on a separate machine.
      Usually the battery consists of such a set + also TZM, and there are two or three vehicles with PU.
      It’s just that if we give a whole car for a radar, we can place a more powerful station.
      The radar on vehicles where it is combined with a launcher is weaker, has a shorter range and sees targets worse, in simple terms.
      Of course, if the main station is disabled, such machines will be able to work on targets themselves. But even in this case, one machine is supposed to be used as a radar, and the second as a launcher.
      In principle, there is no particular problem of placing the radar and launcher separately. So even better. Safer.
      1. 0
        16 February 2024 20: 15
        Quote: English tarantass
        Look at the Buk air defense system.
        All the options are there. There is a car with a radar and a launcher. When Buk is mentioned, this option is usually presented.
        But there is another option where the radar, launcher and control unit are each on a separate machine.
        Usually the battery consists of such a set + also TZM, and there are two or three vehicles with PU.

        The Buk-M2/3 air defense system uses SOC, KP, SOU and/or on-load tap-changer. The radar in the control system and on-load tap-changer is the same.
        Quote: English tarantass
        It’s just that if we give a whole car for a radar, we can place a more powerful station.
        The radar on vehicles where it is combined with a launcher is weaker, has a shorter range and sees targets worse, in simple terms.

        The SOU/RPN Buka-M2/3 and MFR S-350E radars have almost the same range.
        Quote: English tarantass
        Of course, if the main station is disabled, such machines will be able to work on targets themselves. But even in this case, one machine is supposed to be used as a radar, and the second as a launcher.

        What is this about and in which air defense system?
        Quote: English tarantass
        In principle, there is no particular problem of placing the radar and launcher separately. So even better. Safer.

        Not better or safer. There is more time to change position with this placement.
  4. 0
    15 February 2024 19: 18
    The multifunctional high-resolution radar Sentinel AN/MPQ-64F1 has an instrumental range of 120 km and, in addition to target detection, is used for illumination and guidance.

    This is a target detection and target designation radar. It does not illuminate targets, nor does it provide guidance.
  5. -2
    15 February 2024 19: 28
    Recently, there has been a tendency for long-range missiles to be additionally equipped with space radio navigation system receivers. Equipping long-range air-to-air missiles with such devices is associated with the intensive development in the leading countries of the world of networked combat control systems, as well as with the ability of the carrier and the weapon to receive data from other sources, for example, from AWACS aircraft or long-range ground-based radars.

    The accumulated error of relatively cheap and simple INS AAM does not provide the required accuracy at long range. To correct such an INS, the URVVs are “additionally equipped with receivers of the space radio navigation system.”
  6. +1
    16 February 2024 05: 38
    Quote: Comet
    Quote: Tucan
    There may have been a clash of interests between the developers of air defense systems and aircraft missiles. There is no reason for the creators of missile defense systems for “classic” air defense systems to share a piece of the budget pie with the manufacturer of the R-77 missiles.

    SAM and URVV are different types of missiles. Is it possible to use URVV as SAM and SAM as URVV? - it is possible, but it is not optimal in terms of resource consumption.

    Examples of use in the AIM-7, AIM-9 and AIM-120 air defense systems demonstrate what can be quite optimal.
    1. -2
      16 February 2024 20: 01
      Quote: Tucan
      Quote: Comet
      Quote: Tucan
      There may have been a clash of interests between the developers of air defense systems and aircraft missiles. There is no reason for the creators of missile defense systems for “classic” air defense systems to share a piece of the budget pie with the manufacturer of the R-77 missiles.

      SAM and URVV are different types of missiles. Is it possible to use URVV as SAM and SAM as URVV? - it is possible, but it is not optimal in terms of resource consumption.

      Examples of use in the AIM-7, AIM-9 and AIM-120 air defense systems demonstrate what can be quite optimal.

      These air defense systems demonstrate through their life cycle that the use of air defense missile systems in air defense systems is a palliative due to the lack of a suitable missile defense system. As soon as a suitable missile defense system appears, it immediately replaces the air defense missile system in the air defense system.
      1. +1
        17 February 2024 01: 04
        Quote: Comet
        These air defense systems demonstrate through their life cycle that the use of air defense missile systems in air defense systems is a palliative due to the lack of a suitable missile defense system. As soon as a suitable missile defense system appears, it immediately replaces the air defense missile system in the air defense system.

        After such a statement, you, as an unconditionally responsible person and deeply immersed in the topic, can easily list other “suitable” missiles used as part of the air defense system: “Chapparel”, “Antelope”, “Skygard”, “Albatross”, HQ-6, IRIS-T and NASAMS? wink
        1. -1
          20 February 2024 00: 00
          Quote: Tucan
          Quote: Comet
          These air defense systems demonstrate through their life cycle that the use of air defense missile systems in air defense systems is a palliative due to the lack of a suitable missile defense system. As soon as a suitable missile defense system appears, it immediately replaces the air defense missile system in the air defense system.

          After such a statement, you, as an unconditionally responsible person and deeply immersed in the topic, can easily list other “suitable” missiles used as part of the air defense system: “Chapparel”, “Antelope”, “Skygard”, “Albatross”, HQ-6, IRIS-T and NASAMS? wink

          No problem. ESSM Block 1, ESSM Block 2, Aster 15, Aster 30, ... Which one is where? - Try it yourself. You have to do something yourself.
          1. +1
            20 February 2024 01: 40
            It seemed to me that you were adequate. No.
          2. +1
            20 February 2024 02: 18
            Quote: Comet
            No problem. ESSM Block 1, ESSM Block 2, Aster 15, Aster 30, ... Which one is where? - Try it yourself. You have to do something yourself.

            None of the listed missiles as part of the air defense systems: "Chapparel", "Antelope", "Skyguard", "Albatross", HQ-6, IRIS-T and NASAMS are used.

            Actually, you were asked a direct question. Why show off?
            1. -1
              22 February 2024 00: 37
              Quote: Bongo
              Quote: Comet
              No problem. ESSM Block 1, ESSM Block 2, Aster 15, Aster 30, ... Which one is where? - Try it yourself. You have to do something yourself.

              None of the listed missiles as part of the air defense systems: "Chapparel", "Antelope", "Skyguard", "Albatross", HQ-6, IRIS-T and NASAMS are used.

              Damn! ESSM Block 1 was specifically designed to replace the Sparrow in the air defense system. It was developed with a semi-active seeker when the AIM-120 with an active seeker had already existed for a long time. But they didn’t take the AIM-120, but developed a specialized missile defense system from scratch. And, please note, with a semi-active seeker, although they were already with an active seeker. After the ESSM was adopted, Sparrow was removed from the modernized and new ship-based air defense systems. The Europeans on new ships replaced the air defense systems with Sparrow and clones with air defense systems with ESSM and Aster. NASAMS does not have a backlit radar, so a missile defense system with a semi-active seeker is not suitable there. Based on it and the AIM-120D, they are making a new URVV, which will then come to NASAMS. NASAMMS from missiles with a radar seeker can only communicate with AMRAAM.

              Now about Iris. Iris already has a missile defense system that is not an URVV. But I have a question for you. The Iris seeker detects a target at a range of 20 km (rounded for simplicity). But in a cloud with a water density of 0.1 g/m^3, the attenuation of the signal from the target in the Iris seeker range is about 100 dB/km. At what range will the Iris seeker detect a target in this cloud?

              Now about the air defense system with missiles from Sidewinder. In the USSR, they did not use URVV for such a Strela-10 air defense system; they developed a specialized missile defense system. Describe the differences between this missile and the Sidewinder. Let's discuss.
              1. 0
                22 February 2024 01: 58
                They listed specific air defense systems for you, but for some reason you dragged in others. Have you decided to get smart?
                1. 0
                  22 February 2024 02: 37
                  Quote: Tucan
                  They listed specific air defense systems for you, but for some reason you dragged in others. Have you decided to get smart?

                  Tucan, have you decided to play the fool? I described to you that as soon as a missile defense system appears in place of the airborne missile launcher, a replacement immediately occurs. There is no replacement - the junk that was there will remain. If you dig deeper, the air defense system with Sparrow used missiles with a radar seeker with conical scanning. This is junk in terms of noise protection. But they took what they had. What is “completely optimal” here? In Soviet missile defense systems, radar seekers with conical scanning were not used, only monopulse ones. Iris-T - so it dawned on the Germans themselves that they needed another missile, and they made a missile defense system for the Iris-T SLM, this is no longer an air-launched missile. Only Toffee rockets in the clouds do not see the target, which is not written about in advertising brochures or talked about in videos. What is “completely optimal” here? Therefore, the analogs of Iris-t for air defense systems, missiles by birth, - CAMM (URVV is only its basis) and 9M100 have a radar seeker.
                  Compare the Strela-10 missile defense system and Chapparel’s missile defense system. Describe the differences between the SAM (Strela-10) and the URVV (Chapparel). Let's discuss.
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                    22 February 2024 02: 59
                    You're playing the fool fool
                    You were asked about what other missiles are used in the Chapparel, Antelope, Skygard, Albatross, HQ-6, IRIS-T and NASAMS air defense systems? And you got into the weeds. You are masking your inability to admit that you are wrong with verbiage. fool
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                      22 February 2024 18: 41
                      Quote: Tucan
                      You were asked about what other missiles are used in the Chapparel air defense system"

                      Well, that's right, they decided to play the fool.
                      None. Chapparel has been written off a long time ago. What is even written about in this topic. The Americans have long understood its uselessness. But Strela-10 with its missile defense system works great in the air defense system on both sides. So what is the difference between Chapparel and Strela-10 rockets?
                      Quote: Tucan
                      "Antelope",

                      Antelope is Chapparel's rocket equivalent. The United States has long realized that this is unnecessary, but the Chinese have not yet.
                      Quote: Tucan
                      "Skyguard", "Albatross"

                      Sparrow clones. They don't intercept missiles. They were abandoned in the American and European fleets due to their ineffectiveness in favor of ESSM and ASTER.
                      Quote: Tucan
                      , НQ-6

                      It's the Chinese again. They just mindlessly copy everything.
                      Quote: Tucan
                      IRIS-T

                      Iris-T. He wrote that the Germans themselves already understood that this was a palliative. SLM and SLX do not have AVR.
                      Quote: Tucan
                      NASAMS

                      For now AIM-120. They will be replaced by AMRAAM-ER, in which only the seeker is from the AIM-120. This is the ESSM branch. According to NASAMS, there is generally a lot of PR, SAMP-T is better in all respects, but it is French, and its distribution does not bring profit to the American military-industrial complex.
                      Quote: Tucan
                      And you climbed into the wilds.

                      If this is a jungle for you, then you are in the wrong topic. The jungle is in the operational requirements, which are different for URVV and SAM, in manufacturability and the production cycle, because the consumption of SAM is tens of times more than that of URVV... No, for peacetime it may not matter, but for the SVO it is very important.

                      ZY What's with the differences between the Strela-10 and Chapparel's missiles? If these differences are not interesting to you, then this topic is not interesting to you. You are just trolling, there is nothing constructive from you.
  7. +4
    16 February 2024 09: 43
    Sergey, thank you. I don’t know much about air defense, so this series of articles is very interesting.
    From descriptions of homemade products we moved on to serial complexes - the level of publications is pleasing, from the choice of topic to the content, without water or bleed, everything is to the point. This is now rare in VO.
    So, do I understand correctly that the United States itself has nothing other than Patriot, THAAD, Stinger in various variants and carriers, and Hawk with Chapparal in storage from ground-based air defense?
    No self-propelled medium-range air defense systems packed on one carrier vehicle?
    1. +3
      17 February 2024 10: 37
      Quote: English tarantass
      So, do I understand correctly that the United States itself has nothing other than Patriot, THAAD, Stinger in various variants and carriers, and Hawk with Chapparal in storage from ground-based air defense?
      No self-propelled medium-range air defense systems packed on one carrier vehicle?

      There are no self-propelled air defense systems other than the M1097 Avenger in the American army. All I-Hawk and Chapparal complexes in the USA were decommissioned more than 10 years ago.
  8. -2
    29 February 2024 14: 53
    There are a number of inaccuracies in the article:
    1. The longest-range air-to-air missiles (for example, the Soviet R-37 or the American AIM-120 AMRAAM) use an active radar homing head (ARH), which guides the missile to the target at the final stage of the flight.

    R-37 - Soviet analogue of the Phoenix and with a semi-active channel. And if the R-37M is not Soviet, but Russian. If AMRAAM is on the list, then the R-77 should also be mentioned.

    2. The advantage of missiles with an ARL seeker is that they can be used against visually unobservable air targets in the “fire and forget” mode, and after launching the missile, the maneuverability of the carrier is not limited.

    “Forgetting” is possible only after the ARGS target has been captured; before that there are restrictions on the carrier’s maneuverability.

    3. AIM-120 is made according to a normal aerodynamic design with an x-shaped arrangement of wing consoles and rudders and externally resembles an enlarged AIM-7 missile launcher.

    Rather resembles a reduced AIM-7 missile launcher. If we do not take into account the differences in the aerodynamic design: AIM is a 7-pivot wing, and AMRAAM is a normal design.

    4. The active homing mode can be immediately used in close air combat when firing at a visually visible target.

    Ambiguous wording - target acquisition in the event of close combat is still carried out after the missile descends, and not under the wing of the aircraft.

    5. UR R-77
    The lattice rudders can fold and, if necessary, automatically open after launch.

    Where did the author get this from?


    And some thoughts out loud -

    At the MAKS-2005 exhibition, a transport and launch container with an R-77 missile launcher was presented, which could be launched from a ground-based towed launcher based on the carriage of the 57-mm AZP-57 (S-60) anti-aircraft gun.

    The poor option of placing a modern missile on an antediluvian carriage shows that Vympel really wanted to repeat the success of the 3M9 missile, but they did not allow the KUB to be placed on the transporter, and there was no other “carriage” at hand.